Subject: Re: [Fot] Valve Springs - GT6, Spitfire, Tr6

From: "van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2019 12:16:52 +0100 (CET)

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For a TR6 engine, I used Isky valve springs VWE005SP116 With 320lbs/in rate=
 (5.72kgs/mm). With an installed height of 33.8mm and full open height of 2=
1.3mm, seat pressure is 34kgs (about 75 lbs) and 105kgs (230lbs) at full li=
ft.=20
So lift is 12.5mm/0.49in and then the seat pressure is already rather low. =
Coil bind height of these springs is about 18mm so a bit more lift is possi=
ble. It there is enough material thickness, the seats for the springs can b=
e reamed out to get the necessary clearance between the windings.=20
Marcel=20

Van: "fot" <[email-masked]>=20
Aan: [email-masked], "Scott Janzen" <[email-masked]>, "fot" <[email-masked]=
am.net>=20
Verzonden: Donderdag 31 oktober 2019 23:16:13=20
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Valve Springs - GT6, Spitfire, Tr6=20

Try British Frame and Engine. They are not as stiff as the Isky Springs, bu=
t can tolerate more lift. Be sure you have adequate seat pressure as well a=
s sufficient pressure at full lift, per your cam specs. These work well wit=
h the Tilden 298 cam from Ken Knight.=20

-----Original Message-----=20
From: JOE CURRY via Fot <[email-masked]>=20
To: Scott Janzen <[email-masked]>; Scott Janzen via Fot <[email-masked]=
>=20
Sent: Thu, Oct 31, 2019 4:19 pm=20
Subject: Re: [Fot] Valve Springs - GT6, Spitfire, Tr6=20

I bought my Isky dual spring set through Ted Schumacher to match his cam th=
at he also sold me. Works great. Talk to him about the details.=20

On October 31, 2019 at 11:49 AM Scott Janzen via Fot <[email-masked]> w=
rote:=20

I=E2=80=99m trying to accommodate a high lift cam/rocker combination and th=
e Isky springs (VWE005/SP116) I=E2=80=99ve been using will be right at full=
 bind with this combo.=20
What are you all using - I=E2=80=99m looking for something that can handle =
about 0.54=E2=80=9D of net valve lift.=20

Let me know what spring mfr/part number you are using and I=E2=80=99ll take=
 it from there.=20

Thanks!=20

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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-seri=
f; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000"><div><br></div><div>For a TR6 engine, I=
 used Isky valve springs&nbsp; VWE005SP116 With 320lbs/in rate (5.72kgs/mm)=
. With an installed height of 33.8mm and full open height of 21.3mm, seat p=
ressure is 34kgs (about 75 lbs) and 105kgs (230lbs) at full lift.</div><div=
>So lift is 12.5mm/0.49in and then the seat pressure is already rather low.=
 Coil bind height of these springs is about 18mm so a bit more lift is poss=
ible. It there is enough material thickness,&nbsp; the seats for the spring=
s can be reamed out to get the necessary clearance between the&nbsp; windin=
gs.</div><div>Marcel</div><hr id=3D"zwchr" data-marker=3D"__DIVIDER__"><div=
 data-marker=3D"__HEADERS__"><b>Van: </b>"fot" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<b=
r><b>Aan: </b>[email-masked], "Scott Janzen" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, "fot=
" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Verzonden: </b>Donderdag 31 oktober 2019=
 23:16:13<br><b>Onderwerp: </b>Re: [Fot] Valve Springs - GT6, Spitfire, Tr6=
<br></div><br><div data-marker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__"><div style=3D"color:blac=
k;font: 10pt arial;">Try British Frame and Engine. &nbsp;They are not as st=
iff as the Isky Springs, but can tolerate more lift. &nbsp;Be sure you have=
 adequate seat pressure as well as sufficient pressure at full lift, per yo=
ur cam specs. &nbsp;These work well with the Tilden 298 cam from Ken Knight=
.<br>
<br>
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From: JOE CURRY via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: Scott Janzen &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;fot@autox=
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Subject: Re: [Fot] Valve Springs - GT6, Spitfire, Tr6<br>
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<div>I bought my Isky dual spring set through Ted Schumacher to match his c=
am that he also sold me.  Works great.  Talk to him about the details.<br c=
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   <br clear=3D"none">I=E2=80=99m trying to accommodate a high lift cam/roc=
ker combination and the Isky springs (VWE005/SP116) I=E2=80=99ve been using=
 will be right at full bind with this combo.
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    What are you all using - I=E2=80=99m looking for something that can han=
dle about 0.54=E2=80=9D of net valve lift.
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    Let me know what spring mfr/part number you are using and I=E2=80=99ll =
take it from there.
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    Thanks!
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From: Stephen Jones via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 17:47:44 -0500

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I will look in the brief case for n invoice/packingg slip.
  
 S.

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 From: "Chris Harrison" <[email-masked]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 5:27 PM
To: [email-masked], 'Scott Janzen Chris Harrison'
Subject: RE: [Fot] Valve Springs - GT6, Spitfire, Tr6   

Stephen, Scott   

I have been digging and all the info I have on the springs we are using is =
in the briefcase with the car   

I thought I had copies of the notes here but I can't find them  

I think we are using a long single spring conical profile from comp #26113 =

It depends a lot what installed length window you have to work with  

Are you using high ratio rockers? What cam?   

There are a number of retainers and keepers to help get it together  

Chris   

From: Stephen Jones [mailto:[email-masked]]
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 12:18 PM
To: Scott Janzen Chris Harrison
Subject: re: [Fot] Valve Springs - GT6, Spitfire, Tr6  

Hi Scott. 

Per your request. 

I am a new FOT member. 

My engine builder and Crew Chief is Chris Harrison at Harrison Auto Dynamic=
s in Phoenix (Anthem) Arizona. 

"Chris Harrison" <[email-masked]>;  

He my be able to make some suggestions. 

S. 

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From: "Scott Janzen via Fot" <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 2:04 PM
To: "Friends of Triumph' Triumph" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Fot] Valve Springs - GT6, Spitfire, Tr6    

I'm trying to accommodate a high lift cam/rocker combination and the Isky s=
prings (VWE005/SP116) I've been using will be right at full bind with this =
combo.    

What are you all using - I'm looking for something that can handle about 0.=
54" of net valve lift. 

Let me know what spring mfr/part number you are using and I'll take it from=
 there. 

Thanks! 

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<div>I will look in the brief case for n invoice/packingg slip.</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div>S.</div>

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><b>From</b>: &quot;Chris Harrison&quot; &lt;[email-masked]=
&gt;<br />
<b>Sent</b>: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 5:27 PM<br />
<b>To</b>: [email-masked], 'Scott Janzen Chris Harrison'<br />
<b>Subject</b>: RE: [Fot] Valve Springs - GT6, Spitfire, Tr6</span>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I have been digging and a=
ll the info I have on the springs we are using is in the briefcase with the=
 car </span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I thought I had copies of=
 the notes here but I can&rsquo;t find them</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I think we are using a lo=
ng single spring conical profile from comp #26113</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">It depends a lot what ins=
talled length window you have to work with</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Are you using high ratio =
rockers? What cam? </span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">There are a number of ret=
ainers and keepers to help get it together</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Chris </span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Stephen =
Jones [mailto:[email-masked]]<br />
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 31, 2019 12:18 PM<br />
<b>To:</b> Scott Janzen Chris Harrison<br />
<b>Subject:</b> re: [Fot] Valve Springs - GT6, Spitfire, Tr6</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>

<div>
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al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Hi Scott.</span></p>
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al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Per your request.</span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">I am a new FOT member.</span></p>
</div>

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al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span></p>
</div>

<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">My engine builder and Crew Chief is&nbsp;C=
hris Harrison at Harrison Auto Dynamics in Phoenix (Anthem) Arizona.</span>=
</p>
</div>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&quot;Chris Harrison&quot; &lt;chris@harri=
sonautodynamics.com&gt;;&nbsp;</span></p>
</div>

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al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">He my be able to make some suggestions.</s=
pan></p>
</div>

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al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span></p>
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ott Janzen via Fot&quot; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br />
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<b>To</b>: &quot;Friends of Triumph' Triumph&quot; &lt;[email-masked]&g=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">I&rsquo;m trying to accommodate a high lif=
t cam/rocker combination and the Isky springs (VWE005/SP116) I&rsquo;ve bee=
n using will be right at full bind with this combo. </span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">What are you all using - I&rsquo;m looking=
 for something that can handle about 0.54&rdquo; of net valve lift.</span><=
/p>
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al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Let me know what spring mfr/part number yo=
u are using and I&rsquo;ll take it from there.</span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Thanks!</span></p>
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