Subject: Re: [Fot] tr-6 rod bearings

From: Tony Drews via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2019 21:37:53 -0500

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For the TR-4 (race engine) I do the Tri-Metal bearings (rod and main) 
from www.bpnorthwest.com.  I also have them ceramic coated by Calico 
coatings.  I've not had issues due to the bearing / coating in 15+ years 
of hard racing.

I know you're asking for the TR-6 - they have tri-metal for that too.  
Of course I have no direct experience on the 6 cylinder motor.

Regards, Tony Drews

On 6/26/2019 8:39 PM, CHARLES KENT via Fot wrote:
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> Hi, I have finally depleted my stash of vandervell bearings. I was 
> wondering if there are suggestions from the group regarding the best 
> choice of today's suppliers. Any input based on race engine use would 
> certainly be appreciated. thanks!
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    <p>For the TR-4 (race engine) I do the Tri-Metal bearings (rod and
      main) from <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.bpnorthwest.com">www.bpnorthwest.com</a>.  I also have them ceramic coated
      by Calico coatings.  I've not had issues due to the bearing /
      coating in 15+ years of hard racing.  <br>
    </p>
    <p>I know you're asking for the TR-6 - they have tri-metal for that
      too.  Of course I have no direct experience on the 6 cylinder
      motor.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Regards, Tony Drews<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/26/2019 8:39 PM, CHARLES KENT via
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      <p>Hi, I have finally depleted my stash of vandervell bearings. I
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        the best choice of today's suppliers. Any input based on race
        engine use would certainly be appreciated. thanks!</p>
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From: Brad Eells via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2019 19:52:49 -0700

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They are King tri-metal bearings made in Israel.=20

I used them in the Spitfire and will give Tony=E2=80=99s fancy coating next t=
ime around.

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 26, 2019, at 7:37 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote=
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">They are King tri-metal bearings made in Is=
rael.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>I used them in the Spitfire and will give Ton=
y=E2=80=99s fancy coating next time around.<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSigna=
ture" dir=3D"ltr">Brad Eells<div>Sent from my iPhone</div></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br>On Jun 26, 2019, at 7:37 PM, Tony Drews via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><block=
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    <p>For the TR-4 (race engine) I do the Tri-Metal bearings (rod and
      main) from <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"http://www.bp=
northwest.com">www.bpnorthwest.com</a>.&nbsp; I also have them ceramic coate=
d
      by Calico coatings.&nbsp; I've not had issues due to the bearing /
      coating in 15+ years of hard racing.&nbsp; <br>
    </p>
    <p>I know you're asking for the TR-6 - they have tri-metal for that
      too.&nbsp; Of course I have no direct experience on the 6 cylinder
      motor.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Regards, Tony Drews<br>
    </p>
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From: yellow04 via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 05:56:06 -0400

I run the same bearings in my TR250 vintage racer, they are the bearing 
to run. FWIW, I have never done the coating route, and in 20 seasons on 
track in a TR3, TR4 and the 250 have never had a bearing issue either. 
Set the correct clearance, and you will be fine.

On 2019-06-26 22:37, Tony Drews via Fot wrote:
> from www.bpnorthwest.com [1].  I also have them ceramic coated by
> Calico coatings.  I've not had issues due to the bearing / coating in
> 15+ years of hard racing.
>

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From: Phil Gott via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 06:10:49 -0400

My machine shop recommended the King Tri metal bearings and Calico coating for my TR4A. Said they run them in 600 HP SB Chevys with good results.
Phil Gott
114 TR4A

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> I run the same bearings in my TR250 vintage racer, they are the bearing to run. FWIW, I have never done the coating route, and in 20 seasons on track in a TR3, TR4 and the 250 have never had a bearing issue either. Set the correct clearance, and you will be fine.
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From: Scott Janzen via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 08:24:56 -0400

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My experience is with my GT6, but should be very similar to your TR6.
I get my bearings from Richard Good at GoodParts.com =
<http://goodparts.com/>.  They are sold as King tri-metal bearings and =
come in King boxes, but they usually have =E2=80=9CCounty=E2=80=9D =
stamped on them.  There=E2=80=99s an old commentary on the web from =
Uncle Jack, who said he investigated that, and King told him County was =
their largest customer, so a lot of bearings are stamped County.
Anyway, I=E2=80=99ve been running these for years.  In my experience, =
they hold up pretty well.  By that I mean after three race seasons (call =
it five-six race weekends a year) the rod bearings need to be replaced =
due to mild wear.  The rods go a bit quicker than the mains.
I=E2=80=99ve been running them with a Calico coating for the past few =
years, and they do hold up better, but eventually the coating wears =
through too.  Richard will ship directly to Calico, and Calico=E2=80=99s =
turn-around is only a few days, so it doesn=E2=80=99t take much extra =
effort to go this route. The Calico coating seems to add about 1-2 =
10,000" to the bearing thickness.
For comparison, I run 20-50 Penngrade partial synthetic (the former Brad =
Penn), and peak revs are about 7000; with the occasional 7300 or so.

Scott Janzen
68 GT6

On Jun 26, 2019, at 9:39 PM, CHARLES KENT via Fot <[email-masked]> =
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Hi, I have finally depleted my stash of vandervell bearings. I was =
wondering if there are suggestions from the group regarding the best =
choice of today's suppliers. Any input based on race engine use would =
certainly be appreciated. thanks!

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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">My =
experience is with my GT6, but should be very similar to your TR6.<div =
class=3D"">I get my bearings from Richard Good at <a =
href=3D"http://GoodParts.com" class=3D"">GoodParts.com</a>. &nbsp;They =
are sold as King tri-metal bearings and come in King boxes, but they =
usually have =E2=80=9CCounty=E2=80=9D stamped on them. &nbsp;There=E2=80=99=
s an old commentary on the web from Uncle Jack, who said he investigated =
that, and King told him County was their largest customer, so a lot of =
bearings are stamped County.</div><div class=3D"">Anyway, I=E2=80=99ve =
been running these for years. &nbsp;In my experience, they hold up =
pretty well. &nbsp;By that I mean after three race seasons (call it =
five-six race weekends a year) the rod bearings need to be replaced due =
to mild wear. &nbsp;The rods go a bit quicker than the mains.</div><div =
class=3D"">I=E2=80=99ve been running them with a Calico coating for the =
past few years, and they do hold up better, but eventually the coating =
wears through too. &nbsp;Richard will ship directly to Calico, and =
Calico=E2=80=99s turn-around is only a few days, so it doesn=E2=80=99t =
take much extra effort to go this route. The Calico coating seems to add =
about 1-2 10,000" to the bearing thickness.</div><div class=3D"">For =
comparison, I run 20-50 Penngrade partial synthetic (the former Brad =
Penn), and peak revs are about 7000; with the occasional 7300 or =
so.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Scott =
Janzen</div><div class=3D"">68 GT6</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">On =
Jun 26, 2019, at 9:39 PM, CHARLES KENT via Fot &lt;<a =
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race engine use would certainly be appreciated. thanks!</p></div>
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