Subject: Re: [Fot] Fire Suppression system

From: Brian Schirano via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2019 18:32:48 +0000 (UTC)

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They may be able to fill it with Halon II the new eviron better stuff. SPA =
should know , but I thought Halon was a gas, no powder to cake, that was pa=
rt of the beauty, no mess to clean after a discharge
Brian- not a fire bottle expert

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  On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 12:32 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot<[email-masked]>=
 wrote:   I=E2=80=99ve got a 5 lb Halon bottle with nozzles in my car that =
is at least 10 years old, probably more. =C2=A0I=E2=80=99ve heard the produ=
ct cakes up and will no longer work after a while, so I=E2=80=99m intereste=
d in making sure the car is as safe as can be.
I=E2=80=99ve looked at replacement systems (this one is SPA, they no longer=
 service Halon) and they will cost at least $700 if I want something that i=
s legal for SCCA.
Anyone know if the Halon actually does become unserviceable, or have experi=
ence getting the Halon bottle =C2=A0tested/refilled?Yes, Halon is ozone dep=
leting and no longer sold. =C2=A0However, I=E2=80=99ve still got a tank ful=
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They may be able to fill it with Halon II the new eviron better stuff. SPA =
should know , but I thought Halon was a gas, no powder to cake, that was pa=
rt of the beauty, no mess to clean after a discharge<div id=3D"yMail_cursor=
ElementTracker_1551983509586"><br></div><div id=3D"yMail_cursorElementTrack=
er_1551983510742">Brian- not a fire bottle expert</div><div id=3D"yMail_cur=
sorElementTracker_1551983560095"><br><br><br><div id=3D"ymail_android_signa=
ture"><a id=3D"ymail_android_signature_link" href=3D"https://go.onelink.me/=
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AndroidUsers&amp;af_wl=3Dym&amp;af_sub1=3DInternal&amp;af_sub2=3DGlobal_YGr=
owth&amp;af_sub3=3DEmailSignature">Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android</a></div=
> <br> <blockquote style=3D"margin: 0 0 20px 0;"> <div style=3D"font-family=
:Roboto, sans-serif; color:#6D00F6;"> <div>On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 12:32 PM,=
 Scott Janzen via Fot</div><div>&lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:</div> </d=
iv> <div style=3D"padding: 10px 0 0 20px; margin: 10px 0 0 0; border-left: =
1px solid #6D00F6;"> <div id=3D"yiv1089835968"><div>I=E2=80=99ve got a 5 lb=
 Halon bottle with nozzles in my car that is at least 10 years old, probabl=
y more. &nbsp;I=E2=80=99ve heard the product cakes up and will no longer wo=
rk after a while, so I=E2=80=99m interested in making sure the car is as sa=
fe as can be.<div class=3D"yiv1089835968"><br class=3D"yiv1089835968"><div =
class=3D"yiv1089835968">I=E2=80=99ve looked at replacement systems (this on=
e is SPA, they no longer service Halon) and they will cost at least $700 if=
 I want something that is legal for SCCA.</div><div class=3D"yiv1089835968"=
><br class=3D"yiv1089835968"></div><div class=3D"yiv1089835968">Anyone know=
 if the Halon actually does become unserviceable, or have experience gettin=
g the Halon bottle &nbsp;tested/refilled?</div><div class=3D"yiv1089835968"=
>Yes, Halon is ozone depleting and no longer sold. &nbsp;However, I=E2=80=
=99ve still got a tank full!</div></div></div></div>_______________________=
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From: Brian Schirano via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2019 18:32:48 +0000 (UTC)

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From: Tony Drews via Fot <[email-masked]>
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Scott, I'm not an expert, but I have worked with Halon in a computer 
room environment before that was taboo.  My understanding is that Halon 
is a gas, there's nothing to solidify.  As long as you have pressure in 
the tank you're good.

The fact that there's no solids was why it was such a good material for 
use in computer rooms.  To test the installation we actually did a Halon 
dump in the computer room (like a 20 by 50 foot room).  It was pretty 
impressive.  Big wall of fog rolled across the room.

I'd like a second opinion, I could be wrong on the longevity for some 
obscure reason.

Regards, Tony Drews

On 3/7/2019 9:52 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote:
> I’ve got a 5 lb Halon bottle with nozzles in my car that is at least 
> 10 years old, probably more.  I’ve heard the product cakes up and will 
> no longer work after a while, so I’m interested in making sure the car 
> is as safe as can be.
>
> I’ve looked at replacement systems (this one is SPA, they no longer 
> service Halon) and they will cost at least $700 if I want something 
> that is legal for SCCA.
>
> Anyone know if the Halon actually does become unserviceable, or have 
> experience getting the Halon bottle  tested/refilled?
> Yes, Halon is ozone depleting and no longer sold.  However, I’ve still 
> got a tank full!
>
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    <p>Scott, I'm not an expert, but I have worked with Halon in a
      computer room environment before that was taboo.  My understanding
      is that Halon is a gas, there's nothing to solidify.  As long as
      you have pressure in the tank you're good.  <br>
    </p>
    <p>The fact that there's no solids was why it was such a good
      material for use in computer rooms.  To test the installation we
      actually did a Halon dump in the computer room (like a 20 by 50
      foot room).  It was pretty impressive.  Big wall of fog rolled
      across the room.<br>
    </p>
    <p>I'd like a second opinion, I could be wrong on the longevity for
      some obscure reason.</p>
    <p>Regards, Tony Drews<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/7/2019 9:52 AM, Scott Janzen via
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      I’ve got a 5 lb Halon bottle with nozzles in my car that is at
      least 10 years old, probably more.  I’ve heard the product cakes
      up and will no longer work after a while, so I’m interested in
      making sure the car is as safe as can be.
      <div class=""><br class="">
        <div class="">I’ve looked at replacement systems (this one is
          SPA, they no longer service Halon) and they will cost at least
          $700 if I want something that is legal for SCCA.</div>
        <div class=""><br class="">
        </div>
        <div class="">Anyone know if the Halon actually does become
          unserviceable, or have experience getting the Halon bottle
           tested/refilled?</div>
        <div class="">Yes, Halon is ozone depleting and no longer sold.
           However, I’ve still got a tank full!</div>
      </div>
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Halon is gaseous at atmospheric pressure and liquid when under pressure, =
just like LP gas.  If it still weighs the same it hasn=E2=80=99t lost =
any contents, and if the valve isn=E2=80=99t corroded, it ought to work =
just fine.  If you=E2=80=99re concerned take it to one of those shops =
that recharges and inspects fire extinguishers and get them to inspect =
and certify it.

Duncan

> On Mar 7, 2019, at 12:32 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot =
<[email-masked]> wrote:
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> They may be able to fill it with Halon II the new eviron better stuff. =
SPA should know , but I thought Halon was a gas, no powder to cake, that =
was part of the beauty, no mess to clean after a discharge
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> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 12:32 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot
> <[email-masked]> wrote:
> I=E2=80=99ve got a 5 lb Halon bottle with nozzles in my car that is at =
least 10 years old, probably more.  I=E2=80=99ve heard the product cakes =
up and will no longer work after a while, so I=E2=80=99m interested in =
making sure the car is as safe as can be.
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> I=E2=80=99ve looked at replacement systems (this one is SPA, they no =
longer service Halon) and they will cost at least $700 if I want =
something that is legal for SCCA.
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> Yes, Halon is ozone depleting and no longer sold.  However, I=E2=80=99ve=
 still got a tank full!
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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Halon=
 is gaseous at atmospheric pressure and liquid when under pressure, just =
like LP gas. &nbsp;If it still weighs the same it hasn=E2=80=99t lost =
any contents, and if the valve isn=E2=80=99t corroded, it ought to work =
just fine. &nbsp;If you=E2=80=99re concerned take it to one of those =
shops that recharges and inspects fire extinguishers and get them to =
inspect and certify it.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Duncan<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Mar 7, 2019, at 12:32 PM, =
Brian Schirano via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D"">They may be able to =
fill it with Halon II the new eviron better stuff. SPA should know , but =
I thought Halon was a gas, no powder to cake, that was part of the =
beauty, no mess to clean after a discharge<div =
id=3D"yMail_cursorElementTracker_1551983509586" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div id=3D"yMail_cursorElementTracker_1551983510742" =
class=3D"">Brian- not a fire bottle expert</div><div =
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<div class=3D"">On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 12:32 PM, Scott Janzen via =
Fot</div><div class=3D"">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div> </div> <div =
style=3D"padding: 10px 0 0 20px; margin: 10px 0 0 0; border-left: 1px =
solid #6D00F6;" class=3D""> <div id=3D"yiv1089835968" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">I=E2=80=99ve got a 5 lb Halon bottle with nozzles in my car =
that is at least 10 years old, probably more. &nbsp;I=E2=80=99ve heard =
the product cakes up and will no longer work after a while, so I=E2=80=99m=
 interested in making sure the car is as safe as can be.<div =
class=3D"yiv1089835968"><br class=3D"yiv1089835968"><div =
class=3D"yiv1089835968">I=E2=80=99ve looked at replacement systems (this =
one is SPA, they no longer service Halon) and they will cost at least =
$700 if I want something that is legal for SCCA.</div><div =
class=3D"yiv1089835968"><br class=3D"yiv1089835968"></div><div =
class=3D"yiv1089835968">Anyone know if the Halon actually does become =
unserviceable, or have experience getting the Halon bottle =
&nbsp;tested/refilled?</div><div class=3D"yiv1089835968">Yes, Halon is =
ozone depleting and no longer sold. &nbsp;However, I=E2=80=99ve still =
got a tank =
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Hi Scott,
I was able to replace the Phoenix fire bottle that came in my TR4, dated fr=
om 1976, with a current =E2=80=9CFire Bottle=E2=80=9D from Pegasus. Meets a=
ll current SCCA regs for me. =C2=A0 =C2=A0I didn=E2=80=99t have to change a=
nything except the bottle; plug and play. =C2=A0Not sure if it fits your se=
tup, but worked great for me. =C2=A0Way cheaper than a whole new system! =
=C2=A0 Here=E2=80=99s a link to what I used. =C2=A0https://www.pegasusautor=
acing.com/productdetails.asp?RecID=3D7026=C2=A0
Hope that helps!Dave Gott

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On Thursday, March 7, 2019, 10:52 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot <[email-masked].=
net> wrote:

I=E2=80=99ve got a 5 lb Halon bottle with nozzles in my car that is at leas=
t 10 years old, probably more. =C2=A0I=E2=80=99ve heard the product cakes u=
p and will no longer work after a while, so I=E2=80=99m interested in makin=
g sure the car is as safe as can be.
I=E2=80=99ve looked at replacement systems (this one is SPA, they no longer=
 service Halon) and they will cost at least $700 if I want something that i=
s legal for SCCA.
Anyone know if the Halon actually does become unserviceable, or have experi=
ence getting the Halon bottle =C2=A0tested/refilled?Yes, Halon is ozone dep=
leting and no longer sold. =C2=A0However, I=E2=80=99ve still got a tank ful=
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Hi Scott,<div><br></div><div>I was able to replace the Phoenix fire bottle =
that came in my TR4, dated from 1976, with a current =E2=80=9CFire Bottle=
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per than a whole new system! &nbsp; Here=E2=80=99s a link to what I used. &=
nbsp;</div><div><a href=3D"https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails=
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color: #715FFA; padding-top: 15px; margin-top: 0">On Thursday, March 7, 201=
9, 10:52 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:</p><blo=
ckquote class=3D"iosymail"><div id=3D"yiv6224091762"><div>I=E2=80=99ve got =
a 5 lb Halon bottle with nozzles in my car that is at least 10 years old, p=
robably more. &nbsp;I=E2=80=99ve heard the product cakes up and will no lon=
ger work after a while, so I=E2=80=99m interested in making sure the car is=
 as safe as can be.<div class=3D"yiv6224091762"><br class=3D"yiv6224091762"=
><div class=3D"yiv6224091762">I=E2=80=99ve looked at replacement systems (t=
his one is SPA, they no longer service Halon) and they will cost at least $=
700 if I want something that is legal for SCCA.</div><div class=3D"yiv62240=
91762"><br class=3D"yiv6224091762"></div><div class=3D"yiv6224091762">Anyon=
e know if the Halon actually does become unserviceable, or have experience =
getting the Halon bottle &nbsp;tested/refilled?</div><div class=3D"yiv62240=
91762">Yes, Halon is ozone depleting and no longer sold. &nbsp;However, I=
=E2=80=99ve still got a tank full!</div></div></div></div>_________________=
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From: Brad Eells via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2019 19:42:43 -0800

Most organizations require a factory recharged bottle every 2 years.

I recently installed a SPA 4 lb aqueous foam system for quite a bit less than the figure you quoted above.

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 7, 2019, at 7:52 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> I’ve got a 5 lb Halon bottle with nozzles in my car that is at least 10 years old, probably more.  I’ve heard the product cakes up and will no longer work after a while, so I’m interested in making sure the car is as safe as can be.
> 
> I’ve looked at replacement systems (this one is SPA, they no longer service Halon) and they will cost at least $700 if I want something that is legal for SCCA.
> 
> Anyone know if the Halon actually does become unserviceable, or have experience getting the Halon bottle  tested/refilled?
> Yes, Halon is ozone depleting and no longer sold.  However, I’ve still got a tank full!
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 hi guys,
Halon is a liquid under pressure, turns to gas when released - I used to fi=
ll Halon bottles where I worked - had a tank of Halon come in with a little=
 water mixed in, turned to an acid, what a mess that required recalling a b=
ig bunch of bottles that had to be replaced
Ralph
    On Thursday, March 7, 2019, 09:22:24 PM CST, Tony Drews via Fot <fot@au=
tox.team.net> wrote: =20
=20
 =20
Scott, I'm not an expert, but I have worked with Halon in a computer room e=
nvironment before that was taboo.=C2=A0 My understanding is that Halon is a=
 gas, there's nothing to solidify.=C2=A0 As long as you have pressure in th=
e tank you're good.=C2=A0=20
=20
=20
The fact that there's no solids was why it was such a good material for use=
 in computer rooms.=C2=A0 To test the installation we actually did a Halon =
dump in the computer room (like a 20 by 50 foot room).=C2=A0 It was pretty =
impressive.=C2=A0 Big wall of fog rolled across the room.
=20
=20
I'd like a second opinion, I could be wrong on the longevity for some obscu=
re reason.
=20
Regards, Tony Drews
=20
 On 3/7/2019 9:52 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote:
 =20
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 I=E2=80=99ve got a 5 lb Halon bottle with nozzles in my car that is at lea=
st 10 years old, probably more. =C2=A0I=E2=80=99ve heard the product cakes =
up and will no longer work after a while, so I=E2=80=99m interested in maki=
ng sure the car is as safe as can be.=20
 I=E2=80=99ve looked at replacement systems (this one is SPA, they no longe=
r service Halon) and they will cost at least $700 if I want something that =
is legal for SCCA.=20
  Anyone know if the Halon actually does become unserviceable, or have expe=
rience getting the Halon bottle =C2=A0tested/refilled? Yes, Halon is ozone =
depleting and no longer sold. =C2=A0However, I=E2=80=99ve still got a tank =
full! =20
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lvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;">
        </div><div class=3D"ydpc1e52745yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-fami=
ly:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;">hi guys,</=
div><div class=3D"ydpc1e52745yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helveti=
ca Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><br></div><div class=
=3D"ydpc1e52745yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helve=
tica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;">Halon is a liquid under pressure, =
turns to gas when released - I used to fill Halon bottles where I worked - =
had a tank of Halon come in with a little water mixed in, turned to an acid=
, what a mess that required recalling a big bunch of bottles that had to be=
 replaced</div><div class=3D"ydpc1e52745yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-fam=
ily:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><br></div=
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Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;">Ralph</div><div class=
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                    On Thursday, March 7, 2019, 09:22:24 PM CST, Tony Drews=
 via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydp2414b45eyiv3367548848"><div>
    <p>Scott, I'm not an expert, but I have worked with Halon in a
      computer room environment before that was taboo.&nbsp; My understandi=
ng
      is that Halon is a gas, there's nothing to solidify.&nbsp; As long as
      you have pressure in the tank you're good.&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none">
    </p>
    <p>The fact that there's no solids was why it was such a good
      material for use in computer rooms.&nbsp; To test the installation we
      actually did a Halon dump in the computer room (like a 20 by 50
      foot room).&nbsp; It was pretty impressive.&nbsp; Big wall of fog rol=
led
      across the room.<br clear=3D"none">
    </p>
    <p>I'd like a second opinion, I could be wrong on the longevity for
      some obscure reason.</p>
    <p>Regards, Tony Drews<br clear=3D"none">
    </p>
    <div class=3D"ydp2414b45eyiv3367548848yqt8170174700" id=3D"ydp2414b45ey=
iv3367548848yqtfd21953"><div class=3D"ydp2414b45eyiv3367548848moz-cite-pref=
ix">On 3/7/2019 9:52 AM, Scott Janzen via
      Fot wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      </blockquote></div></div><div class=3D"ydp2414b45eyiv3367548848yqt817=
0174700" id=3D"ydp2414b45eyiv3367548848yqtfd72505"></div><div><div class=3D=
"ydp2414b45eyiv3367548848yqt8170174700" id=3D"ydp2414b45eyiv3367548848yqtfd=
66121">
      I=E2=80=99ve got a 5 lb Halon bottle with nozzles in my car that is a=
t
      least 10 years old, probably more. &nbsp;I=E2=80=99ve heard the produ=
ct cakes
      up and will no longer work after a while, so I=E2=80=99m interested i=
n
      making sure the car is as safe as can be.
      <div class=3D"ydp2414b45eyiv3367548848"><br class=3D"ydp2414b45eyiv33=
67548848" clear=3D"none">
        <div class=3D"ydp2414b45eyiv3367548848">I=E2=80=99ve looked at repl=
acement systems (this one is
          SPA, they no longer service Halon) and they will cost at least
          $700 if I want something that is legal for SCCA.</div>
        <div class=3D"ydp2414b45eyiv3367548848"><br class=3D"ydp2414b45eyiv=
3367548848" clear=3D"none">
        </div>
        <div class=3D"ydp2414b45eyiv3367548848">Anyone know if the Halon ac=
tually does become
          unserviceable, or have experience getting the Halon bottle
          &nbsp;tested/refilled?</div>
        <div class=3D"ydp2414b45eyiv3367548848">Yes, Halon is ozone depleti=
ng and no longer sold.
          &nbsp;However, I=E2=80=99ve still got a tank full!</div>
      </div>
      <br clear=3D"none">
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