Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods

From: Edward Dunn <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 21:10:58 -0800

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From: "Bill Tobin" <[email-masked]>
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Aren't they chinese? I'd be wary.
Pauters are only (!) a couple hundred each and are very good.
Bill
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Edward Dunn=20
  To: McKearn McKearn ; FOT list=20
  Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 12:10 AM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods

  Are you sure they sell a GT6 rod?=20

  Rods are a fairly small (though critical) part of the whole engine =
build process. In my experience, if you can=E2=80=99t afford Carrillo =
rods, a race prepped GT6 is probably going to be too expensive to =
campaign.

  =20

  Edward Dunn

  =20

  Quality Fuel Trailer and Tank Inc.

  1390 N. McDowell Blvd. Suite G-283

  Petaluma, CA 94954

  =20

  707-509-5577   x 7012

  800-509-1904

  =20

  =20

  From: Fot [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of McKearn =
McKearn
  Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 8:52 PM
  To: FOT list
  Subject: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods

  =20

  Hi Gents.

     I am looking for feedback on the MaxSpeeding connecting rods for =
GT6.  Can't afford Carrillos and I'm hoping these are good. Also am =
still searching for an aluminum flywheel without having something custom =
made. and would like input on what type of clutch to use as well . Lets =
call it a race car for the sake of argument....

                                  Thanks.  P.J.

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Aren't they chinese? I'd be =
wary.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Pauters are only (!) a couple hundred =
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very good.</FONT></DIV>
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  are a fairly small (though critical) part of the whole engine build =
process.=20
  In my experience, if you can=E2=80=99t afford Carrillo rods, a race =
prepped GT6 is=20
  probably going to be too expensive to campaign.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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From: Jamie <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 06:22:22 -0500

Although I was initially very wary, they have worked well for over 1,000 race miles in our (horror) MGB engine.

Jamie Palmer

> On Dec 8, 2015, at 11:52 PM, McKearn McKearn <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Gents.
>    I am looking for feedback on the MaxSpeeding connecting rods for GT6.  Can't afford Carrillos and I'm hoping these are good. Also am still searching for an aluminum flywheel without having something custom made. and would like input on what type of clutch to use as well . Lets call it a race car for the sake of argument....
>                                 Thanks.  P.J.
> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/[email-masked]
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From: "Spitfire Racing" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 08:02:47 -0500

A properly built and modified race engine represents a mighty investment not
only of dollars but of time. Is that really where you want to pinch pennies?
After all, with the exception of pistons and crank that is one of the
primary components and all it takes is one piece inside an engine to reduce
all your work and investment to nothing more than scrap metal. One seized
valve, or substandard bolt even can be a disaster. It doesn't take much.
Realize all the ancillary invested expenditures that are also at risk like a
weekend's entry fee you lose in an engine failure; the cost of time off from
work to go to a race weekend; the cost of food and lodging for the race
outing and the cost of just getting there. When asked, I usually advise
folks to figure a race weekend is ~$1000 minimum when you roll all in.

A number of racers have run Pauter rods as stated before by Bill and these
do present a less expensive alternative. I had the opportunity to rebuild an
engine last year with Pauter rods and they were quite substantial and were
well designed, constructed and balanced. Personally I have seen far too many
Chinese knock-offs; reproductions (call them what you will), that fail to
come close to the parts they try to mimic. 
I suggest you perhaps delay your build until your war chest allows for top
quality internals. Do it once and do it right the first time and reduce the
potential for disappointing expensive disaster.

Russ Moore
Spitfire #49

-----Original Message-----
From: Fot [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Jamie
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 6:22 AM
To: McKearn McKearn
Cc: FOT list
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods

Although I was initially very wary, they have worked well for over 1,000
race miles in our (horror) MGB engine.

Jamie Palmer

>    I am looking for feedback on the MaxSpeeding connecting rods for GT6.
Can't afford Carrillos and I'm hoping these are good. Also am still
searching for an aluminum flywheel without having something custom made. and
would like input on what type of clutch to use as well . Lets call it a race
car for the sake of argument....
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/[email-masked]

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From: Brian Schirano <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 14:02:06 +0000 (UTC)

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2 Cents from a modest built GT6 racer (IE 10:1 CR, stock rods, crank, Good =
GP3 cam, etc). =C2=A0Russ's comments are dead on - building the car is one =
expense, racing it is a recurring one and his estimate of $1000 per event i=
s good. So build in margin of safety in the motor (and other components) wh=
ere you can.
aluminum flywheel and clutch & PP I went to Ted Shumaker, TSI - TS Imports
RE the rods - at the time of my first (only) rebuild a couple years ago I c=
ouldn't afford carrillos or Pauters, but did spend some long green on nitri=
ding and polishing the crank, balancing everything, and of course the ARP h=
ardware everywhere that counts . My car is NOT a high rev machine, I self l=
imit at 6200 - 6300 RPM and it seems all the straights are uphill so she ne=
ver redlines there anywise!
So to me, it can be done, but has to be consistent with the rest of your bu=
ild. my next build will be a higher CR and hotter cam, so will be upgrading=
 rods, and pistons as well. But the first build was built conservative for =
longevity.
Brian=C2=A026A GT6+, 28 TR6Brian Schirano
585-305-0349 Cell=C2=A0
[email-masked]
      From: Spitfire Racing <[email-masked]>
 To: 'Jamie' <[email-masked]>; 'McKearn McKearn' <[email-masked]>=
=20
Cc: 'FOT list' <[email-masked]>
 Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 8:02 AM
 Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods
  =20
A properly built and modified race engine represents a mighty investment no=
t
only of dollars but of time. Is that really where you want to pinch pennies=
?
After all, with the exception of pistons and crank that is one of the
primary components and all it takes is one piece inside an engine to reduce
all your work and investment to nothing more than scrap metal. One seized
valve, or substandard bolt even can be a disaster. It doesn't take much.
Realize all the ancillary invested expenditures that are also at risk like =
a
weekend's entry fee you lose in an engine failure; the cost of time off fro=
m
work to go to a race weekend; the cost of food and lodging for the race
outing and the cost of just getting there. When asked, I usually advise
folks to figure a race weekend is ~$1000 minimum when you roll all in.

A number of racers have run Pauter rods as stated before by Bill and these
do present a less expensive alternative. I had the opportunity to rebuild a=
n
engine last year with Pauter rods and they were quite substantial and were
well designed, constructed and balanced. Personally I have seen far too man=
y
Chinese knock-offs; reproductions (call them what you will), that fail to
come close to the parts they try to mimic.=20
I suggest you perhaps delay your build until your war chest allows for top
quality internals. Do it once and do it right the first time and reduce the
potential for disappointing expensive disaster.

Russ Moore
Spitfire #49

-----Original Message-----
From: Fot [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Jamie
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 6:22 AM
To: McKearn McKearn
Cc: FOT list
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods

Jamie Palmer

>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I am looking for feedback on the MaxSpeeding connecting rods=
 for GT6.
Can't afford Carrillos and I'm hoping these are good. Also am still
searching for an aluminum flywheel without having something custom made. an=
d
would like input on what type of clutch to use as well . Lets call it a rac=
e
car for the sake of argument....
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Thanks.=C2=A0 P.J.

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449666368870_8346">2 Cents from a modest built GT6 racer (IE 10:1 CR, stock=
 rods, crank, Good GP3 cam, etc). &nbsp;Russ's comments are dead on - build=
ing the car is one expense, racing it is a recurring one and his estimate o=
f $1000 per event is good. So build in margin of safety in the motor (and o=
ther components) where you can.</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1449666=
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299" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1449666368870_8382">aluminum flyw=
heel and clutch &amp; PP I went to Ted Shumaker, TSI - TS Imports</span></d=
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yui_3_16_0_1_1449666368870_8576">RE the rods - at the time of my first (onl=
y) rebuild a couple years ago I couldn't afford carrillos or Pauters, but d=
id spend some long green on nitriding and polishing the crank, balancing ev=
erything, and of course the ARP hardware everywhere that counts . My car is=
 NOT a high rev machine, I self limit at 6200 - 6300 RPM and it seems all t=
he straights are uphill so she never redlines there anywise!</span></div><d=
iv id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1449666368870_8299" dir=3D"ltr"><span><br></span></di=
v><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1449666368870_8299" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3=
_16_0_1_1449666368870_10158">So to me, it can be done, but has to be consis=
tent with the rest of your build. my next build will be a higher CR and hot=
ter cam, so will be upgrading rods, and pistons as well. But the first buil=
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n of pistons and crank that is one of the<br>primary components and all it =
takes is one piece inside an engine to reduce<br>all your work and investme=
nt to nothing more than scrap metal. One seized<br>valve, or substandard bo=
lt even can be a disaster. It doesn't take much.<br>Realize all the ancilla=
ry invested expenditures that are also at risk like a<br>weekend's entry fe=
e you lose in an engine failure; the cost of time off from<br>work to go to=
 a race weekend; the cost of food and lodging for the race<br>outing and th=
e cost of just getting there. When asked, I usually advise<br>folks to figu=
re a race weekend is ~$1000 minimum when you roll all in.<br><br>A number o=
f racers have run Pauter rods as stated before by Bill and these<br>do pres=
ent a less expensive alternative. I had the opportunity to rebuild an<br>en=
gine last year with Pauter rods and they were quite substantial and were<br=
>well designed, constructed and balanced. Personally I have seen far too ma=
ny<br>Chinese knock-offs; reproductions (call them what you will), that fai=
l to<br>come close to the parts they try to mimic. <br>I suggest you perhap=
s delay your build until your war chest allows for top<br>quality internals=
. Do it once and do it right the first time and reduce the<br>potential for=
 disappointing expensive disaster.<br><br>Russ Moore<br>Spitfire #49<br><br=
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From: Scott Janzen <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 09:07:07 -0500

I think it depends on what you want to do with the car.  Both my race motors have Carillo rods in them - one component I have no worries about. Beware those pesky little bolts on the Carillos - use a stretch gauge, not a torque wrench, cuz if you over-stretch one they are about $45 each, but I digress.

My motor sees 7,000 rpm five times a lap at Summit Point, so in a 12 lap race that's 60 cycles to redline over about 20 minutes. I like having parts I can rely on.  There are enough other weak points in a GT6 to fix!

When I originally got this car, it had six beautifully lightened, balanced and shot peened stock rods with ARP bolts. You could do that for a lot less money and probably be fine for 6,000 rpm regularly.

So, reliable competitive race car (Carillo), or fast street car/back half of the pack race car (improved stock), or fast race car if it doesn't blow up first (Chinese)?  Keep in mind that back in the day they ran stock rods to 8,000 rpm.
If you are on a budget (we all are at some level, right?) and want to get on the track sooner than later - go for "stock" and know the limitations of the engine.  You can always upgrade later- that engine will not be "one and done", so you will have it apart every other year at a minimum and can swap out rods.
But I agree with Russ- don't buy the knockoffs and delude yourself that they are as good as the real stuff- that will just lead to catastrophe down the road.

Sent from my mobile device 

On Dec 9, 2015, at 8:02 AM, Spitfire Racing <[email-masked]> wrote:

Russ Moore
Spitfire #49

-----Original Message-----
From: Fot [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Jamie
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 6:22 AM
To: McKearn McKearn
Cc: FOT list
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods

Jamie Palmer

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From: John Hasty <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 14:47:55 +0000

No doubt that quality rods and crank are a must have for a race motor.  Don't know what kind of cranks you GT6 guys use, but if you go for a billet crank I suggest you have the rod journals sized to fit good old American V8's...the choice of good rods in what ever length you want is infinite and at half the price of Carillo's...not to mention that the choice of bearings is also infinite...we are using Manley H beam rods from a Ford modular engine in one motor and Scat H beam chevy rods in the other one and have had no problems turning the TR3 motor to 6500 and occasionally 7000.

-----Original Message-----
From: Fot [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Scott Janzen
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 9:07 AM
To: Spitfire Racing
Cc: FOT list
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods

A properly built and modified race engine represents a mighty investment not only of dollars but of time. Is that really where you want to pinch pennies?
After all, with the exception of pistons and crank that is one of the primary components and all it takes is one piece inside an engine to reduce all your work and investment to nothing more than scrap metal. One seized valve, or substandard bolt even can be a disaster. It doesn't take much.
Realize all the ancillary invested expenditures that are also at risk like a weekend's entry fee you lose in an engine failure; the cost of time off from work to go to a race weekend; the cost of food and lodging for the race outing and the cost of just getting there. When asked, I usually advise folks to figure a race weekend is ~$1000 minimum when you roll all in.

A number of racers have run Pauter rods as stated before by Bill and these do present a less expensive alternative. I had the opportunity to rebuild an engine last year with Pauter rods and they were quite substantial and were well designed, constructed and balanced. Personally I have seen far too many Chinese knock-offs; reproductions (call them what you will), that fail to come close to the parts they try to mimic.
I suggest you perhaps delay your build until your war chest allows for top quality internals. Do it once and do it right the first time and reduce the potential for disappointing expensive disaster.

Russ Moore
Spitfire #49

-----Original Message-----
From: Fot [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Jamie
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 6:22 AM
To: McKearn McKearn
Cc: FOT list
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods

Jamie Palmer

>   I am looking for feedback on the MaxSpeeding connecting rods for GT6.
Can't afford Carrillos and I'm hoping these are good. Also am still searching for an aluminum flywheel without having something custom made. and would like input on what type of clutch to use as well . Lets call it a race car for the sake of argument....

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The GT6 crank can withstand high RPMs, unlike the stroked TR6 crank.  A =
stock crank, balanced, nitrided and straight, is good for over 7,000 rpm =
with no issues.

On Dec 9, 2015, at 9:47 AM, John Hasty wrote:

No doubt that quality rods and crank are a must have for a race motor.  =
Don't know what kind of cranks you GT6 guys use, but if you go for a =
billet crank I suggest you have the rod journals sized to fit good old =
American V8's...the choice of good rods in what ever length you want is =
infinite and at half the price of Carillo's...not to mention that the =
choice of bearings is also infinite...we are using Manley H beam rods =
from a Ford modular engine in one motor and Scat H beam chevy rods in =
the other one and have had no problems turning the TR3 motor to 6500 and =
occasionally 7000.

-----Original Message-----
From: Fot [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Scott Janzen
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 9:07 AM
To: Spitfire Racing
Cc: FOT list
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods

I think it depends on what you want to do with the car.  Both my race =
motors have Carillo rods in them - one component I have no worries =
about. Beware those pesky little bolts on the Carillos - use a stretch =
gauge, not a torque wrench, cuz if you over-stretch one they are about =
$45 each, but I digress.

My motor sees 7,000 rpm five times a lap at Summit Point, so in a 12 lap =
race that's 60 cycles to redline over about 20 minutes. I like having =
parts I can rely on.  There are enough other weak points in a GT6 to =
fix!

When I originally got this car, it had six beautifully lightened, =
balanced and shot peened stock rods with ARP bolts. You could do that =
for a lot less money and probably be fine for 6,000 rpm regularly.

So, reliable competitive race car (Carillo), or fast street car/back =
half of the pack race car (improved stock), or fast race car if it =
doesn't blow up first (Chinese)?  Keep in mind that back in the day they =
ran stock rods to 8,000 rpm.
If you are on a budget (we all are at some level, right?) and want to =
get on the track sooner than later - go for "stock" and know the =
limitations of the engine.  You can always upgrade later- that engine =
will not be "one and done", so you will have it apart every other year =
at a minimum and can swap out rods.
But I agree with Russ- don't buy the knockoffs and delude yourself that =
they are as good as the real stuff- that will just lead to catastrophe =
down the road.

On Dec 9, 2015, at 8:02 AM, Spitfire Racing =
<[email-masked]> wrote:

A properly built and modified race engine represents a mighty investment =
not only of dollars but of time. Is that really where you want to pinch =
pennies?
After all, with the exception of pistons and crank that is one of the =
primary components and all it takes is one piece inside an engine to =
reduce all your work and investment to nothing more than scrap metal. =
One seized valve, or substandard bolt even can be a disaster. It doesn't =
take much.
Realize all the ancillary invested expenditures that are also at risk =
like a weekend's entry fee you lose in an engine failure; the cost of =
time off from work to go to a race weekend; the cost of food and lodging =
for the race outing and the cost of just getting there. When asked, I =
usually advise folks to figure a race weekend is ~$1000 minimum when you =
roll all in.

A number of racers have run Pauter rods as stated before by Bill and =
these do present a less expensive alternative. I had the opportunity to =
rebuild an engine last year with Pauter rods and they were quite =
substantial and were well designed, constructed and balanced. Personally =
I have seen far too many Chinese knock-offs; reproductions (call them =
what you will), that fail to come close to the parts they try to mimic.
I suggest you perhaps delay your build until your war chest allows for =
top quality internals. Do it once and do it right the first time and =
reduce the potential for disappointing expensive disaster.

Russ Moore
Spitfire #49

-----Original Message-----
From: Fot [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Jamie
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 6:22 AM
To: McKearn McKearn
Cc: FOT list
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods

Although I was initially very wary, they have worked well for over 1,000 =
race miles in our (horror) MGB engine.

Jamie Palmer

> On Dec 8, 2015, at 11:52 PM, McKearn McKearn <[email-masked]> =
>  I am looking for feedback on the MaxSpeeding connecting rods for GT6.
Can't afford Carrillos and I'm hoping these are good. Also am still =
searching for an aluminum flywheel without having something custom made. =
and would like input on what type of clutch to use as well . Lets call =
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">The =
GT6 crank can withstand high RPMs, unlike the stroked TR6 crank. &nbsp;A =
stock crank, balanced, nitrided and straight, is good for over 7,000 rpm =
with no issues.<div><br><div><div>On Dec 9, 2015, at 9:47 AM, John Hasty =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div>No doubt that =
quality rods and crank are a must have for a race motor. &nbsp;Don't =
know what kind of cranks you GT6 guys use, but if you go for a billet =
crank I suggest you have the rod journals sized to fit good old American =
V8's...the choice of good rods in what ever length you want is infinite =
and at half the price of Carillo's...not to mention that the choice of =
bearings is also infinite...we are using Manley H beam rods from a Ford =
modular engine in one motor and Scat H beam chevy rods in the other one =
and have had no problems turning the TR3 motor to 6500 and occasionally =
7000.<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Fot =
[mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Scott Janzen<br>Sent: =
Wednesday, December 09, 2015 9:07 AM<br>To: Spitfire Racing<br>Cc: FOT =
list<br>Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods<br><br>I think it depends =
on what you want to do with the car. &nbsp;Both my race motors have =
Carillo rods in them - one component I have no worries about. Beware =
those pesky little bolts on the Carillos - use a stretch gauge, not a =
torque wrench, cuz if you over-stretch one they are about $45 each, but =
I digress.<br><br>My motor sees 7,000 rpm five times a lap at Summit =
Point, so in a 12 lap race that's 60 cycles to redline over about 20 =
minutes. I like having parts I can rely on. &nbsp;There are enough other =
weak points in a GT6 to fix!<br><br>When I originally got this car, it =
had six beautifully lightened, balanced and shot peened stock rods with =
ARP bolts. You could do that for a lot less money and probably be fine =
for 6,000 rpm regularly.<br><br>So, reliable competitive race car =
(Carillo), or fast street car/back half of the pack race car (improved =
stock), or fast race car if it doesn't blow up first (Chinese)? =
&nbsp;Keep in mind that back in the day they ran stock rods to 8,000 =
rpm.<br>If you are on a budget (we all are at some level, right?) and =
want to get on the track sooner than later - go for "stock" and know the =
limitations of the engine. &nbsp;You can always upgrade later- that =
engine will not be "one and done", so you will have it apart every other =
year at a minimum and can swap out rods.<br>But I agree with Russ- don't =
buy the knockoffs and delude yourself that they are as good as the real =
stuff- that will just lead to catastrophe down the road.<br><br>Sent =
from my mobile device<br><br>On Dec 9, 2015, at 8:02 AM, Spitfire Racing =
&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<br><br>A properly built and modified race engine =
represents a mighty investment not only of dollars but of time. Is that =
really where you want to pinch pennies?<br>After all, with the exception =
of pistons and crank that is one of the primary components and all it =
takes is one piece inside an engine to reduce all your work and =
investment to nothing more than scrap metal. One seized valve, or =
substandard bolt even can be a disaster. It doesn't take =
much.<br>Realize all the ancillary invested expenditures that are also =
at risk like a weekend's entry fee you lose in an engine failure; the =
cost of time off from work to go to a race weekend; the cost of food and =
lodging for the race outing and the cost of just getting there. When =
asked, I usually advise folks to figure a race weekend is ~$1000 minimum =
when you roll all in.<br><br>A number of racers have run Pauter rods as =
stated before by Bill and these do present a less expensive alternative. =
I had the opportunity to rebuild an engine last year with Pauter rods =
and they were quite substantial and were well designed, constructed and =
balanced. Personally I have seen far too many Chinese knock-offs; =
reproductions (call them what you will), that fail to come close to the =
parts they try to mimic.<br>I suggest you perhaps delay your build until =
your war chest allows for top quality internals. Do it once and do it =
right the first time and reduce the potential for disappointing =
expensive disaster.<br><br>Russ Moore<br>Spitfire =
#49<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Fot =
[mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Jamie<br>Sent: =
Wednesday, December 09, 2015 6:22 AM<br>To: McKearn McKearn<br>Cc: FOT =
list<br>Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods<br><br>Although I was =
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our (horror) MGB engine.<br><br>Jamie Palmer<br><br><br><blockquote =
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GT6.<br></blockquote>Can't afford Carrillos and I'm hoping these are =
good. Also am still searching for an aluminum flywheel without having =
something custom made. and would like input on what type of clutch to =
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Thanks for the replies.
    This leaves me with this question. Has anyone had an engine failure
directly related to a failed stock connecting rod that had been properly
modified according to Kas's directions?
 Thanks .  P.J.

On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Scott Janzen <[email-masked]> wrote:

> The GT6 crank can withstand high RPMs, unlike the stroked TR6 crank.  A
> stock crank, balanced, nitrided and straight, is good for over 7,000 rpm
> with no issues.
>
> No doubt that quality rods and crank are a must have for a race motor.
> Don't know what kind of cranks you GT6 guys use, but if you go for a billet
> crank I suggest you have the rod journals sized to fit good old American
> V8's...the choice of good rods in what ever length you want is infinite and
> at half the price of Carillo's...not to mention that the choice of bearings
> is also infinite...we are using Manley H beam rods from a Ford modular
> engine in one motor and Scat H beam chevy rods in the other one and have
> had no problems turning the TR3 motor to 6500 and occasionally 7000.
>
> I think it depends on what you want to do with the car.  Both my race
> motors have Carillo rods in them - one component I have no worries about.
> Beware those pesky little bolts on the Carillos - use a stretch gauge, not
> a torque wrench, cuz if you over-stretch one they are about $45 each, but I
> digress.
>
> My motor sees 7,000 rpm five times a lap at Summit Point, so in a 12 lap
> race that's 60 cycles to redline over about 20 minutes. I like having parts
> I can rely on.  There are enough other weak points in a GT6 to fix!
>
> When I originally got this car, it had six beautifully lightened, balanced
> and shot peened stock rods with ARP bolts. You could do that for a lot less
> money and probably be fine for 6,000 rpm regularly.
>
> So, reliable competitive race car (Carillo), or fast street car/back half
> of the pack race car (improved stock), or fast race car if it doesn't blow
> up first (Chinese)?  Keep in mind that back in the day they ran stock rods
> to 8,000 rpm.
> If you are on a budget (we all are at some level, right?) and want to get
> on the track sooner than later - go for "stock" and know the limitations of
> the engine.  You can always upgrade later- that engine will not be "one and
> done", so you will have it apart every other year at a minimum and can swap
> out rods.
> But I agree with Russ- don't buy the knockoffs and delude yourself that
> they are as good as the real stuff- that will just lead to catastrophe down
> the road.
>
> A properly built and modified race engine represents a mighty investment
> not only of dollars but of time. Is that really where you want to pinch
> pennies?
> Realize all the ancillary invested expenditures that are also at risk like
> a weekend's entry fee you lose in an engine failure; the cost of time off
> from work to go to a race weekend; the cost of food and lodging for the
> race outing and the cost of just getting there. When asked, I usually
> advise folks to figure a race weekend is ~$1000 minimum when you roll all
> in.
>
> do present a less expensive alternative. I had the opportunity to rebuild
> an engine last year with Pauter rods and they were quite substantial and
> were well designed, constructed and balanced. Personally I have seen far
> too many Chinese knock-offs; reproductions (call them what you will), that
> fail to come close to the parts they try to mimic.
> searching for an aluminum flywheel without having something custom made.
> and would like input on what type of clutch to use as well . Lets call it a
> race car for the sake of argument....
>
>                               Thanks.  P.J.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Thanks for the replies.</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =
This leaves me with this question. Has anyone had an engine failure directl=
y related to a failed stock connecting rod that had been properly modified =
according to Kas&#39;s directions?</div><div>=C2=A0Thanks .=C2=A0 P.J.</div=
></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, De=
c 9, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Scott Janzen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px=
 #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"-ms-word-wrap: break-word;">The=
 GT6 crank can withstand high RPMs, unlike the stroked TR6 crank.=C2=A0 A s=
tock crank, balanced, nitrided and straight, is good for over 7,000 rpm wit=
h no issues.<div><br><div><div>On Dec 9, 2015, at 9:47 AM, John Hasty wrote=
:</div><br><div>No doubt that quality rods and crank are a must have for a =
race motor.=C2=A0 Don&#39;t know what kind of cranks you GT6 guys use, but =
if you go for a billet crank I suggest you have the rod journals sized to f=
it good old American V8&#39;s...the choice of good rods in what ever length=
 you want is infinite and at half the price of Carillo&#39;s...not to menti=
on that the choice of bearings is also infinite...we are using Manley H bea=
m rods from a Ford modular engine in one motor and Scat H beam chevy rods i=
n the other one and have had no problems turning the TR3 motor to 6500 and =
occasionally 7000.<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Fot [mailto:<=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">fot-bounces@=
autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of Scott Janzen<br>Sent: Wednesday, December =
09, 2015 9:07 AM<br>To: Spitfire Racing<br>Cc: FOT list<br>Subject: Re: [Fo=
t] GT6 Connecting rods<br><br>I think it depends on what you want to do wit=
h the car.=C2=A0 Both my race motors have Carillo rods in them - one compon=
ent I have no worries about. Beware those pesky little bolts on the Carillo=
s - use a stretch gauge, not a torque wrench, cuz if you over-stretch one t=
hey are about $45 each, but I digress.<br><br>My motor sees 7,000 rpm five =
times a lap at Summit Point, so in a 12 lap race that&#39;s 60 cycles to re=
dline over about 20 minutes. I like having parts I can rely on.=C2=A0 There=
 are enough other weak points in a GT6 to fix!<br><br>When I originally got=
 this car, it had six beautifully lightened, balanced and shot peened stock=
 rods with ARP bolts. You could do that for a lot less money and probably b=
e fine for 6,000 rpm regularly.<br><br>So, reliable competitive race car (C=
arillo), or fast street car/back half of the pack race car (improved stock)=
, or fast race car if it doesn&#39;t blow up first (Chinese)?=C2=A0 Keep in=
 mind that back in the day they ran stock rods to 8,000 rpm.<br>If you are =
on a budget (we all are at some level, right?) and want to get on the track=
 sooner than later - go for &quot;stock&quot; and know the limitations of t=
he engine.=C2=A0 You can always upgrade later- that engine will not be &quo=
t;one and done&quot;, so you will have it apart every other year at a minim=
um and can swap out rods.<br>But I agree with Russ- don&#39;t buy the knock=
offs and delude yourself that they are as good as the real stuff- that will=
 just lead to catastrophe down the road.<br><br>Sent from my mobile device<=
br><br>On Dec 9, 2015, at 8:02 AM, Spitfire Racing &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sp=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<br><br>A properly built and modified race engine represents =
a mighty investment not only of dollars but of time. Is that really where y=
ou want to pinch pennies?<br>After all, with the exception of pistons and c=
rank that is one of the primary components and all it takes is one piece in=
side an engine to reduce all your work and investment to nothing more than =
scrap metal. One seized valve, or substandard bolt even can be a disaster. =
It doesn&#39;t take much.<br>Realize all the ancillary invested expenditure=
s that are also at risk like a weekend&#39;s entry fee you lose in an engin=
e failure; the cost of time off from work to go to a race weekend; the cost=
 of food and lodging for the race outing and the cost of just getting there=
. When asked, I usually advise folks to figure a race weekend is ~$1000 min=
imum when you roll all in.<br><br>A number of racers have run Pauter rods a=
s stated before by Bill and these do present a less expensive alternative. =
I had the opportunity to rebuild an engine last year with Pauter rods and t=
hey were quite substantial and were well designed, constructed and balanced=
. Personally I have seen far too many Chinese knock-offs; reproductions (ca=
ll them what you will), that fail to come close to the parts they try to mi=
mic.<br>I suggest you perhaps delay your build until your war chest allows =
for top quality internals. Do it once and do it right the first time and re=
duce the potential for disappointing expensive disaster.<br><br>Russ Moore<=
br>Spitfire #49<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Fot [mailto:<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">fot-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of Jamie<br>Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 6=
:22 AM<br>To: McKearn McKearn<br>Cc: FOT list<br>Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Con=
necting rods<br><br>Although I was initially very wary, they have worked we=
ll for over 1,000 race miles in our (horror) MGB engine.<br><br>Jamie Palme=
r<br><br><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Dec 8, 2015, at 11:52 PM, McKearn=
 McKearn &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">mckear=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><br><=
/blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">Hi Gents.<br></blockquote><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"> =C2=A0I am looking for feedback on the MaxSpeeding connecti=
ng rods for GT6.<br></blockquote>Can&#39;t afford Carrillos and I&#39;m hop=
ing these are good. Also am still searching for an aluminum flywheel withou=
t having something custom made. and would like input on what type of clutch=
 to use as well . Lets call it a race car for the sake of argument....<br><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
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From: Mike Munson <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 10:04:17 -0600

The most cost effective thing you can do to your engine is spend a lot of money on a set of Carrillo's!
Mine are about 16 years old.

Mike Munson
#28 EP TR6

> On Dec 8, 2015, at 10:52 PM, McKearn McKearn <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Gents.

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From: "Barr, Scott" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 16:43:35 +0000

Do the TR6/GT6 Carrillos have the same teeny-tiny little rod bolts that the Carrillos for my 1500 Spit do?  I think they're 1/4", with a torque spec of something like 18 lb/ft?  I just don't like those.  Granted, never had one fail, but I also have been replacing them every once in a while at something like $37 per bolt.  You're supposed to inspect them frequently by checking to see whether they have stretched at all, but I've never come up with a really reliable way of comparing the length of one particular rod bolt upon disassembly against its length at assembly.  

Scott

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 10:04 AM
To: McKearn McKearn <[email-masked]>
Cc: FOT list <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods

Mike Munson
#28 EP TR6

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that's what the GT6 has.  TR6 with the stroker crank may be different.
I agree with you, they seem tiny, but I'e been running them for six =
years with no issues.  Carillo tells me they are re-usable, though I =
never thought to record the installed measurements and check against =
them a year or two later.
What I will do when I pull the bottom end apart in a week or two is to =
measure the installed length and then remeasure once disassembled.  If =
they "shrink" as much as the stretch dimension used for installation, =
they should still be good, i.e., they have not been stretched beyond the =
elastic range.

On Dec 9, 2015, at 11:43 AM, Barr, Scott wrote:

Do the TR6/GT6 Carrillos have the same teeny-tiny little rod bolts that =
the Carrillos for my 1500 Spit do?  I think they're 1/4", with a torque =
spec of something like 18 lb/ft?  I just don't like those.  Granted, =
never had one fail, but I also have been replacing them every once in a =
while at something like $37 per bolt.  You're supposed to inspect them =
frequently by checking to see whether they have stretched at all, but =
I've never come up with a really reliable way of comparing the length of =
one particular rod bolt upon disassembly against its length at assembly. =
=20

Scott

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Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 10:04 AM
To: McKearn McKearn <[email-masked]>
Cc: FOT list <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods

The most cost effective thing you can do to your engine is spend a lot =
of money on a set of Carrillo's!
Mine are about 16 years old.

Mike Munson
#28 EP TR6

> On Dec 8, 2015, at 10:52 PM, McKearn McKearn <[email-masked]> =

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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; =
">that's what the GT6 has. &nbsp;TR6 with the stroker crank may be =
different.<div>I agree with you, they seem tiny, but I'e been running =
them for six years with no issues. &nbsp;Carillo tells me they are =
re-usable, though I never thought to record the installed measurements =
and check against them a year or two later.</div><div>What I will do =
when I pull the bottom end apart in a week or two is to measure the =
installed length and then remeasure once disassembled. &nbsp;If they =
"shrink" as much as the stretch dimension used for installation, they =
should still be good, i.e., they have not been stretched beyond the =
elastic range.</div><div><br><div><div>On Dec 9, 2015, at 11:43 AM, =
Barr, Scott wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div>Do =
the TR6/GT6 Carrillos have the same teeny-tiny little rod bolts that the =
Carrillos for my 1500 Spit do? &nbsp;I think they're 1/4", with a torque =
spec of something like 18 lb/ft? &nbsp;I just don't like those. =
&nbsp;Granted, never had one fail, but I also have been replacing them =
every once in a while at something like $37 per bolt. &nbsp;You're =
supposed to inspect them frequently by checking to see whether they have =
stretched at all, but I've never come up with a really reliable way of =
comparing the length of one particular rod bolt upon disassembly against =
its length at assembly. &nbsp;<br><br>Scott<br><br>-----Original =
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looking for feedback on the MaxSpeeding connecting rods for GT6. =
&nbsp;Can't afford Carrillos and I'm hoping these are good. Also am =
still searching for an aluminum flywheel without having something custom =
made. and would like input on what type of clutch to use as well . Lets =
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Right - my problem has always been being really confident that I am measuri=
ng the same bolt the second time.  I tried once marking them with different=
 colors of nail polish.  That didn't work at all, for reasons that will be =
obvious to some.  I'll come up with some way of doing it.  Replacing them a=
t intervals is painfully expensive and probably needless.  I replace them w=
hen my gut tells me that they don't feel right when I'm torqueing them - li=
ke I really expect to get that final torque wrench click, but instead I get=
 another 90 degrees of twist on the wrench before I get the click.  I need =
a better system than that  :-)

Scott B.

From: Scott Janzen [mailto:[email-masked]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 10:53 AM
To: Barr, Scott <[email-masked]>
Cc: Mike Munson <[email-masked]>; FOT list <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods

that's what the GT6 has.  TR6 with the stroker crank may be different.
I agree with you, they seem tiny, but I'e been running them for six years w=
ith no issues.  Carillo tells me they are re-usable, though I never thought=
 to record the installed measurements and check against them a year or two =
later.
What I will do when I pull the bottom end apart in a week or two is to meas=
ure the installed length and then remeasure once disassembled.  If they "sh=
rink" as much as the stretch dimension used for installation, they should s=
till be good, i.e., they have not been stretched beyond the elastic range.

Do the TR6/GT6 Carrillos have the same teeny-tiny little rod bolts that the=
 Carrillos for my 1500 Spit do?  I think they're 1/4", with a torque spec o=
f something like 18 lb/ft?  I just don't like those.  Granted, never had on=
e fail, but I also have been replacing them every once in a while at someth=
ing like $37 per bolt.  You're supposed to inspect them frequently by check=
ing to see whether they have stretched at all, but I've never come up with =
a really reliable way of comparing the length of one particular rod bolt up=
on disassembly against its length at assembly.

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: Fot [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Mike Munson
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods

The most cost effective thing you can do to your engine is spend a lot of m=
oney on a set of Carrillo's!
Mine are about 16 years old.

Mike Munson
#28 EP TR6

[email-masked]>> wrote:

Hi Gents.
  I am looking for feedback on the MaxSpeeding connecting rods for GT6.  Ca=
n't afford Carrillos and I'm hoping these are good. Also am still searching=
 for an aluminum flywheel without having something custom made. and would l=
ike input on what type of clutch to use as well . Lets call it a race car f=
or the sake of argument....
                               Thanks.  P.J.

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Right &#8211; my problem has always b=
een being really confident that I am measuring the same bolt the second tim=
e.&nbsp; I tried once marking them with different colors
 of nail polish.&nbsp; That didn&#8217;t work at all, for reasons that will=
 be obvious to some.&nbsp; I&#8217;ll come up with some way of doing it.&nb=
sp; Replacing them at intervals is painfully expensive and probably needles=
s.&nbsp; I replace them when my gut tells me that they don&#8217;t feel
 right when I&#8217;m torqueing them &#8211; like I really expect to get th=
at final torque wrench click, but instead I get another 90 degrees of twist=
 on the wrench before I get the click. &nbsp;I need a better system than th=
at&nbsp; :-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Scott B.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> Scott Janzen [mailto:sjanzen@m=
e.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 09, 2015 10:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Barr, Scott &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Mike Munson &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; FOT list &lt;[email-masked]=
am.net&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">that's what the GT6 has. &nbsp;TR6 with the stroker =
crank may be different.<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I agree with you, they seem tiny, but I'e been runni=
ng them for six years with no issues. &nbsp;Carillo tells me they are re-us=
able, though I never thought to record the installed measurements and check=
 against them a year or two later.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">What I will do when I pull the bottom end apart in a=
 week or two is to measure the installed length and then remeasure once dis=
assembled. &nbsp;If they &quot;shrink&quot; as much as the stretch dimensio=
n used for installation, they should still be good,
 i.e., they have not been stretched beyond the elastic range.<o:p></o:p></p=
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Dec 9, 2015, at 11:43 AM, Barr, Scott wrote:<o:p>=
</o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Do the TR6/GT6 Carrillos have the same teeny-tiny li=
ttle rod bolts that the Carrillos for my 1500 Spit do? &nbsp;I think they'r=
e 1/4&quot;, with a torque spec of something like 18 lb/ft? &nbsp;I just do=
n't like those. &nbsp;Granted, never had one fail, but
 I also have been replacing them every once in a while at something like $3=
7 per bolt. &nbsp;You're supposed to inspect them frequently by checking to=
 see whether they have stretched at all, but I've never come up with a real=
ly reliable way of comparing the length
 of one particular rod bolt upon disassembly against its length at assembly=
. &nbsp;<br>
<br>
Scott<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Fot [<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:fot-bounces=
@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of Mike Munson<br>
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 10:04 AM<br>
To: McKearn McKearn &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mckearn2@gmai=
l.com</a>&gt;<br>
Cc: FOT list &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods<br>
<br>
The most cost effective thing you can do to your engine is spend a lot of m=
oney on a set of Carrillo's!<br>
Mine are about 16 years old.<br>
<br>
Mike Munson<br>
#28 EP TR6<br>
<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;I am looking for feedback on the MaxSpee=
ding connecting rods for GT6. &nbsp;Can't afford Carrillos and I'm hoping t=
hese are good. Also am still searching for an aluminum flywheel without hav=
ing something custom made. and would like input on
 what type of clutch to use as well . Lets call it a race car for the sake =
of argument....<o:p></o:p></p>
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Yes they are the same, SPS bolts. I was thinking they were 3/8" but it's bee=
n a while since I've checked them. We torqued them per the specs, with an in=
ch pound torque wrench. I like to use ARP thread grease on them too.

Mike Munson
#28 EP TR6

> On Dec 9, 2015, at 10:53 AM, Scott Janzen <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
ith no issues.  Carillo tells me they are re-usable, though I never thought t=
o record the installed measurements and check against them a year or two lat=
er.
> What I will do when I pull the bottom end apart in a week or two is to mea=
sure the installed length and then remeasure once disassembled.  If they "sh=
rink" as much as the stretch dimension used for installation, they should st=
ill be good, i.e., they have not been stretched beyond the elastic range.
> Do the TR6/GT6 Carrillos have the same teeny-tiny little rod bolts that th=
e Carrillos for my 1500 Spit do?  I think they're 1/4", with a torque spec o=
f something like 18 lb/ft?  I just don't like those.  Granted, never had one=
 fail, but I also have been replacing them every once in a while at somethin=
g like $37 per bolt.  You're supposed to inspect them frequently by checking=
 to see whether they have stretched at all, but I've never come up with a re=
ally reliable way of comparing the length of one particular rod bolt upon di=
sassembly against its length at assembly. =20
>>   I am looking for feedback on the MaxSpeeding connecting rods for GT6.  C=
an't afford Carrillos and I'm hoping these are good. Also am still searching=
 for an aluminum flywheel without having something custom made. and would li=
ke input on what type of clutch to use as well . Lets call it a race car for=
 the sake of argument....
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Yes they are the same, SPS bolts. I wa=
s thinking they were 3/8" but it's been a while since I've checked them. We t=
orqued them per the specs, with an inch pound torque wrench. I like to use A=
RP thread grease on them too.<br><br>Mike Munson<div>#28 EP TR6</div></div><=
div><br>On Dec 9, 2015, at 10:53 AM, Scott Janzen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sjan=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><div>that's what the GT6 has. &nbsp;TR6 with the stroker crank may be d=
ifferent.<div>I agree with you, they seem tiny, but I'e been running them fo=
r six years with no issues. &nbsp;Carillo tells me they are re-usable, thoug=
h I never thought to record the installed measurements and check against the=
m a year or two later.</div><div>What I will do when I pull the bottom end a=
part in a week or two is to measure the installed length and then remeasure o=
nce disassembled. &nbsp;If they "shrink" as much as the stretch dimension us=
ed for installation, they should still be good, i.e., they have not been str=
etched beyond the elastic range.</div><div><br><div><div>On Dec 9, 2015, at 1=
1:43 AM, Barr, Scott wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><di=
v>Do the TR6/GT6 Carrillos have the same teeny-tiny little rod bolts that th=
e Carrillos for my 1500 Spit do? &nbsp;I think they're 1/4", with a torque s=
pec of something like 18 lb/ft? &nbsp;I just don't like those. &nbsp;Granted=
, never had one fail, but I also have been replacing them every once in a wh=
ile at something like $37 per bolt. &nbsp;You're supposed to inspect them fr=
equently by checking to see whether they have stretched at all, but I've nev=
er come up with a really reliable way of comparing the length of one particu=
lar rod bolt upon disassembly against its length at assembly. &nbsp;<br><br>=
Scott<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Fot [<a href=3D"mailto:fot-=
[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] On Behalf Of M=
ike Munson<br>Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 10:04 AM<br>To: McKearn McK=
earn &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br=
>Cc: FOT list &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt;<br>Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods<br><br>The most cost effect=
ive thing you can do to your engine is spend a lot of money on a set of Carr=
illo's!<br>Mine are about 16 years old.<br><br>Mike Munson<br>#28 EP TR6<br>=
<br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Dec 8, 2015, at 10:52 PM, McKearn McKearn &=
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r></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D=
"cite">Hi Gents.<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> &nbsp;&nbsp;I am=
 looking for feedback on the MaxSpeeding connecting rods for GT6. &nbsp;Can'=
t afford Carrillos and I'm hoping these are good. Also am still searching fo=
r an aluminum flywheel without having something custom made. and would like i=
nput on what type of clutch to use as well . Lets call it a race car for the=
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The grease is critical - I once used something slicker than the ARP =
stuff, and stretched one.  Called the tech line and they pointed out my =
error and sold me a $40 bolt.  I wonder if the Pauter rods use the same =
little bolts.

On Dec 9, 2015, at 12:31 PM, Mike Munson wrote:

Yes they are the same, SPS bolts. I was thinking they were 3/8" but it's =
been a while since I've checked them. We torqued them per the specs, =
with an inch pound torque wrench. I like to use ARP thread grease on =
them too.

Mike Munson
#28 EP TR6

> Do the TR6/GT6 Carrillos have the same teeny-tiny little rod bolts =
that the Carrillos for my 1500 Spit do?  I think they're 1/4", with a =
torque spec of something like 18 lb/ft?  I just don't like those.  =
Granted, never had one fail, but I also have been replacing them every =
once in a while at something like $37 per bolt.  You're supposed to =
inspect them frequently by checking to see whether they have stretched =
at all, but I've never come up with a really reliable way of comparing =
the length of one particular rod bolt upon disassembly against its =
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">The =
grease is critical - I once used something slicker than the ARP stuff, =
and stretched one. &nbsp;Called the tech line and they pointed out my =
error and sold me a $40 bolt. &nbsp;I wonder if the Pauter rods use the =
same little bolts.<div><br><div><div>On Dec 9, 2015, at 12:31 PM, Mike =
Munson wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><meta =
http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><div =
dir=3D"auto"><div>Yes they are the same, SPS bolts. I was thinking they =
were 3/8" but it's been a while since I've checked them. We torqued them =
per the specs, with an inch pound torque wrench. I like to use ARP =
thread grease on them too.<br><br>Mike Munson<div>#28 EP =
TR6</div></div><div><br>On Dec 9, 2015, at 10:53 AM, Scott Janzen &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>that's what the GT6 =
has. &nbsp;TR6 with the stroker crank may be different.<div>I agree with =
you, they seem tiny, but I'e been running them for six years with no =
issues. &nbsp;Carillo tells me they are re-usable, though I never =
thought to record the installed measurements and check against them a =
year or two later.</div><div>What I will do when I pull the bottom end =
apart in a week or two is to measure the installed length and then =
remeasure once disassembled. &nbsp;If they "shrink" as much as the =
stretch dimension used for installation, they should still be good, =
i.e., they have not been stretched beyond the elastic =
range.</div><div><br><div><div>On Dec 9, 2015, at 11:43 AM, Barr, Scott =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div>Do the TR6/GT6 =
Carrillos have the same teeny-tiny little rod bolts that the Carrillos =
for my 1500 Spit do? &nbsp;I think they're 1/4", with a torque spec of =
something like 18 lb/ft? &nbsp;I just don't like those. &nbsp;Granted, =
never had one fail, but I also have been replacing them every once in a =
while at something like $37 per bolt. &nbsp;You're supposed to inspect =
them frequently by checking to see whether they have stretched at all, =
but I've never come up with a really reliable way of comparing the =
length of one particular rod bolt upon disassembly against its length at =
assembly. &nbsp;<br><br>Scott<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: =
Fot [<a =
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et</a>] On Behalf Of Mike Munson<br>Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 =
10:04 AM<br>To: McKearn McKearn &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Cc: FOT =
list &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Subject: =
Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods<br><br>The most cost effective thing you =
can do to your engine is spend a lot of money on a set of =
Carrillo's!<br>Mine are about 16 years old.<br><br>Mike Munson<br>#28 EP =
TR6<br><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Dec 8, 2015, at 10:52 PM, =
McKearn McKearn &lt;<a =
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type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">Hi =
Gents.<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> &nbsp;&nbsp;I am =
looking for feedback on the MaxSpeeding connecting rods for GT6. =
&nbsp;Can't afford Carrillos and I'm hoping these are good. Also am =
still searching for an aluminum flywheel without having something custom =
made. and would like input on what type of clutch to use as well . Lets =
call it a race car for the sake of =
argument....<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> =
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p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Thanks. =
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I've been using them in a 6000 -6500 RPM TR4 motor for 6 years with no issu=
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Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 10:10:58 PM=20
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Rods are a fairly small (though critical) part of the whole engine build pr=
ocess. In my experience, if you can=E2=80=99t afford Carrillo rods, a race =
prepped GT6 is probably going to be too expensive to campaign.=20

=C2=A0=20

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Quality Fuel Trailer and Tank Inc.=20

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Hi Gents.=20

=C2=A0=C2=A0 I am looking for feedback on the MaxSpeeding connecting rods f=
or GT6.=C2=A0 Can't afford Carrillos and I'm hoping these are good. Also am=
 still searching for an aluminum flywheel without having something custom m=
ade. and would like input on what type of clutch to use as well . Lets call=
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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #0000=
00"><DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">I've been using them in a 6000 -6500 R=
PM TR4 motor for 6 years with no issues.<BR></DIV>
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McKearn McKearn" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, "fot" &lt;[email-masked]&g=
t;<BR><B>Sent: </B>Tuesday, December 8, 2015 10:10:58 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B=
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Nope, the Pauter rod bolts are larger, even for the small journal Spit moto=
r.

Scott B.

From: Scott Janzen [mailto:[email-masked]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 11:35 AM
To: Mike Munson <[email-masked]>
Cc: Barr, Scott <[email-masked]>; FOT list <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods

The grease is critical - I once used something slicker than the ARP stuff, =
and stretched one.  Called the tech line and they pointed out my error and =
sold me a $40 bolt.  I wonder if the Pauter rods use the same little bolts.

Yes they are the same, SPS bolts. I was thinking they were 3/8" but it's be=
en a while since I've checked them. We torqued them per the specs, with an =
inch pound torque wrench. I like to use ARP thread grease on them too.

Mike Munson
#28 EP TR6

.com>> wrote:

Scott

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Mike Munson
#28 EP TR6

[email-masked]>> wrote:

Hi Gents.

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Scott B.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> Scott Janzen [mailto:sjanzen@m=
e.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 09, 2015 11:35 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mike Munson &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Barr, Scott &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; FOT list &lt;fot@auto=
x.team.net&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The grease is critical - I once used something slick=
er than the ARP stuff, and stretched one. &nbsp;Called the tech line and th=
ey pointed out my error and sold me a $40 bolt. &nbsp;I wonder if the Paute=
r rods use the same little bolts.<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Dec 9, 2015, at 12:31 PM, Mike Munson wrote:<o:p>=
</o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Yes they are the same, SPS bolts. I was thinking the=
y were 3/8&quot; but it's been a while since I've checked them. We torqued =
them per the specs, with an inch pound torque wrench. I like to use ARP thr=
ead grease on them too.<br>
<br>
Mike Munson<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">#28 EP TR6<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
On Dec 9, 2015, at 10:53 AM, Scott Janzen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sjanzen@me.=
com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">that's what the GT6 has. &nbsp;TR6 with the stroker =
crank may be different.<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I agree with you, they seem tiny, but I'e been runni=
ng them for six years with no issues. &nbsp;Carillo tells me they are re-us=
able, though I never thought to record the installed measurements and check=
 against them a year or two later.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">What I will do when I pull the bottom end apart in a=
 week or two is to measure the installed length and then remeasure once dis=
assembled. &nbsp;If they &quot;shrink&quot; as much as the stretch dimensio=
n used for installation, they should still be good,
 i.e., they have not been stretched beyond the elastic range.<o:p></o:p></p=
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From: "Bill Tobin" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 21:51:46 -0500

What's the World coming to? I'm doing a valve job on a (Horror!) MGA!
A friend brought me his head and I'm grinding the valves and seats.
Cheers, Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jamie" <[email-masked]>
To: "McKearn McKearn" <[email-masked]>
Cc: "FOT list" <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 6:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods

>> and would like input on what type of clutch to use as well . Lets call it 
>> a race car for the sake of argument....
>>                                 Thanks.  P.J.

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I had a grenade go off in my engine at the last race. Not the stock rod =
failing, but it appears on first inspection that an ARP rod bolt gave it =
up. Some bad bad things happened after that with the piston destroyed, =
the crank gouged, and got only knows what else. The block and #3 =
cylinder wall doesn=92t looked scarred but we=92ll see if it survived =
when I have it magnafluxed.=20

I knew when I turned the engine upside down on the engine stand and lots =
of metal noises resulted I was in trouble. Now its decision time on how =
to rebuild.=20

Suggestions are welcome. Is this the time to go 40 over from 20 since =
new pistons are needed? I wanted a hotter cam for next season but not =
this way. The crank has serious gouges and I don=92t know if its =
savable. That=92s my wallet in the pic along with the other totally =
broken part.

Bud Rolofson

Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)

71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6)
71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3
69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car)
93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle=20
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a grenade go off in my engine at the last race. Not the stock rod =
failing, but it appears on first inspection that an ARP rod bolt gave it =
up. Some bad bad things happened after that with the piston destroyed, =
the crank gouged, and got only knows what else. The block and #3 =
cylinder wall doesn=92t looked scarred but we=92ll see if it survived =
when I have it magnafluxed.&nbsp;<div><br><div>I knew when I turned the =
engine upside down on the engine stand and lots of metal noises resulted =
I was in trouble. Now its decision time on how to =
rebuild.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Suggestions are welcome. Is this =
the time to go 40 over from 20 since new pistons are needed? I wanted a =
hotter cam for next season but not this way. The crank has serious =
gouges and I don=92t know if its savable. That=92s my wallet in the pic =
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style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: =
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bummer.  40 over - best to talk to your machinist, but mine told me that =
cutting only ten thousandths over was not what he liked doing (though he =
did it because I'd already bought the pistons, and it worked out fine.=20=

On Dec 13, 2015, at 5:49 PM, Bud R wrote:

Bud Rolofson

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Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 23:19:02 +0000 (UTC)

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It looks like bearing failure. Which then heated the rod to a nice molten o=
range along with the bolt stretching it to failure or pulling the treads fr=
om the rod. This happened to me in 2001 at Mount Washington hillclimb. My i=
nternal parts escaped with a very loud and dramatic noise just after the fi=
nish line. Lots of spectators to witness it. Also have the in car video. I =
thought it was a little down on power the top half of that run;) The brande=
d scar from my end cap was still in the pavement when I was there in 2011.
As for suggestion, I would go .40 over since it will be need to be stripped=
 down bare for inspection anyway.
BrianFoster, RI
=20
      From: Bud R <[email-masked]>
 To: McKearn McKearn <[email-masked]>=20
Cc: FOT list <[email-masked]>
 Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 5:49 PM
 Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods
  =20
I had a grenade go off in my engine at the last race. Not the stock rod fai=
ling, but it appears on first inspection that an ARP rod bolt gave it up. S=
ome bad bad things happened after that with the piston destroyed, the crank=
 gouged, and got only knows what else. The block and #3 cylinder wall doesn=
=E2=80=99t looked scarred but we=E2=80=99ll see if it survived when I have =
it magnafluxed.=C2=A0
I knew when I turned the engine upside down on the engine stand and lots of=
 metal noises resulted I was in trouble. Now its decision time on how to re=
build.=C2=A0
Suggestions are welcome. Is this the time to go 40 over from 20 since new p=
istons are needed? I wanted a hotter cam for next season but not this way. =
The crank has serious gouges and I don=E2=80=99t know if its savable. That=
=E2=80=99s my wallet in the pic along with the other totally broken part.
Bud Rolofson
Extreme Parts Racing=C2=A0(more than just a haircut)
71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6)71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #369 Spitfire MK III (back=
 up FE engine/dinghy car)93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle=C2=A077 Z-50=
A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike)

ahoo.com

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7_6233"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_6232">It looks like bearing =
failure. Which then heated the rod to a nice molten orange along with the b=
olt stretching it to failure or pulling the treads from the rod. This happe=
ned to me in 2001 at Mount Washington hillclimb. My internal parts escaped =
with a very loud and dramatic noise just after the finish line. Lots of spe=
ctators to witness it. Also have the in car video. I thought it was a littl=
e down on power the top half of that run;) The branded scar from my end cap=
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spection anyway.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318=
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7318297_6233"><span>Brian</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1=
450047318297_6233"><span>Foster, RI</span></div><br> <blockquote style=3D"b=
order-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; =
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ida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_=
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=3D"2" face=3D"Arial" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_6242"> <hr size=3D"1=
" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_6241"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bol=
d;">From:</span></b> Bud R &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br> <b id=3D"yui_3_=
16_0_1_1450047318297_7655"><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;" id=3D"yui_3_1=
6_0_1_1450047318297_7654">To:</span></b> McKearn McKearn &lt;mckearn2@gmail=
.com&gt; <br><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_7657"><span style=3D"font-=
weight: bold;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_7656">Cc:</span></b> FOT li=
st &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br> <b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_7659"=
><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_7658">=
Sent:</span></b> Sunday, December 13, 2015 5:49 PM<br> <b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_=
1_1450047318297_7661"><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1=
_1450047318297_7660">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods<br> =
</font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318=
297_6366"><br><div id=3D"yiv9003706402"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14500473182=
97_6816">I had a grenade go off in my engine at the last race. Not the stoc=
k rod failing, but it appears on first inspection that an ARP rod bolt gave=
 it up. Some bad bad things happened after that with the piston destroyed, =
the crank gouged, and got only knows what else. The block and #3 cylinder w=
all doesn=E2=80=99t looked scarred but we=E2=80=99ll see if it survived whe=
n I have it magnafluxed.&nbsp;<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_6819"><=
br clear=3D"none"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_7005">I knew when I=
 turned the engine upside down on the engine stand and lots of metal noises=
 resulted I was in trouble. Now its decision time on how to rebuild.&nbsp;<=
/div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_6948"><br clear=3D"none"></div><=
div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_6818">Suggestions are welcome. Is this=
 the time to go 40 over from 20 since new pistons are needed? I wanted a ho=
tter cam for next season but not this way. The crank has serious gouges and=
 I don=E2=80=99t know if its savable. That=E2=80=99s my wallet in the pic a=
long with the other totally broken part.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14500=
47318297_6831"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_6830">
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"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_6823"><span class=3D"yiv9003706402Apple-style-s=
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_1450047318297_6840"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv9003706402Apple-interch=
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mal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;border-spacing:=
0px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_6832">Extreme Parts Racing&nbsp;(mor=
e than just a haircut)</div><div style=3D"border-collapse:separate;color:rg=
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1_1450047318297_6821"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450=
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From: davehogye <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 02:35:16 +0000 (UTC)

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Hi Bud,=20

Sorry about this misfortune.=20

To me, one photo reveals a bunch.=20

I see a lot of heat on the ARP bolt. I'm pretty sure that would suggest tha=
t parts were just about red hot before they went bang, rattle rattle.=20

If the bolt broke before hand, I don't think it would not have the bluing f=
rom heat.=20

Good luck with the rebuild.=20

Get it fixed and bring it west for the Kastner Cup.=20

Dave H.=20

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From: "Bud R" <[email-masked]>=20
To: "McKearn McKearn" <[email-masked]>=20
Cc: "FOT list" <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 2:49:06 PM=20
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods=20

it magnafluxed.=20

build.=20

Suggestions are welcome. Is this the time to go 40 over from 20 since new p=
istons are needed? I wanted a hotter cam for next season but not this way. =
The crank has serious gouges and I don=E2=80=99t know if its savable. That=
=E2=80=99s my wallet in the pic along with the other totally broken part.=
=20

Bud Rolofson=20

Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)=20

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71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3=20
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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #0000=
00"><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Hi Bud,</div><div aria-label=3D"Compos=
e body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Sorry about this misfort=
une.</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"=
><br></span></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><span style=3D"font-size=
: 12pt;">To me, one photo reveals a bunch.</span></div><div aria-label=3D"C=
ompose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">I see a lot of heat=
 on the ARP bolt. &nbsp;I'm pretty sure that would suggest that parts were =
just about red hot before they went bang, rattle rattle.</div><div aria-lab=
el=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">If the bolt =
broke before hand, I don't think it would not have the bluing from heat.</d=
iv><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose bo=
dy">Good luck with the rebuild.</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br><=
/div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Get it fixed and bring it west for th=
e Kastner Cup.</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria-la=
bel=3D"Compose body">Dave H.</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></di=
v><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose bod=
y"><br></div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div style=3D"color:#000;font-=
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t: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetic=
a,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Bud R" &lt;levilevi@com=
cast.net&gt;<br><b>To: </b>"McKearn McKearn" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>=
<b>Cc: </b>"FOT list" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, De=
cember 13, 2015 2:49:06 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods=
<br><div><br></div>I had a grenade go off in my engine at the last race. No=
t the stock rod failing, but it appears on first inspection that an ARP rod=
 bolt gave it up. Some bad bad things happened after that with the piston d=
estroyed, the crank gouged, and got only knows what else. The block and #3 =
cylinder wall doesn=E2=80=99t looked scarred but we=E2=80=99ll see if it su=
rvived when I have it magnafluxed.&nbsp;<div><br><div>I knew when I turned =
the engine upside down on the engine stand and lots of metal noises resulte=
d I was in trouble. Now its decision time on how to rebuild.&nbsp;</div><di=
v><br></div><div>Suggestions are welcome. Is this the time to go 40 over fr=
om 20 since new pistons are needed? I wanted a hotter cam for next season b=
ut not this way. The crank has serious gouges and I don=E2=80=99t know if i=
ts savable. That=E2=80=99s my wallet in the pic along with the other totall=
y broken part.</div><div><div><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-=
nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" data-mce-style=3D=
"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after=
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"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after=
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ak-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">=
<div><div style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-fam=
ily: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: norm=
al; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-transform: none; whit=
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From: Bud R <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 21:21:29 -0700

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The number 2 and 3 rod caps both look like they got real hot. In the =
pics you can see #1 rod cap is the correct color, #2 has been hot, #3 is =
gone, and #4 is the right color. Now what could cause two rods to get =
hotter than the others? Two spun bearings? Even the crank is blue at the =
#3 journal.

Thanks
Bud

71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6)

On Dec 13, 2015, at 7:35 PM, davehogye <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Hi Bud,
> I see a lot of heat on the ARP bolt.  I'm pretty sure that would =
suggest that parts were just about red hot before they went bang, rattle =
rattle.
>=20
> If the bolt broke before hand, I don't think it would not have the =
bluing from heat.
> Dave H.

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after-white-space;"><div><br></div>The number 2 and 3 rod caps both look =
like they got real hot. In the pics you can see #1 rod cap is the =
correct color, #2 has been hot, #3 is gone, and #4 is the right color. =
Now what could cause two rods to get hotter than the others? Two spun =
bearings? Even the crank is blue at the #3 =
journal.<div><br></div><div>Thanks</div><div>Bud</div><div><div =
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normal; line-height: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; border-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;">Extreme Parts Racing&nbsp;(more than just a haircut)</div><div =
style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-transform: =
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-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br></div><div>71TR6 CC57365 (Good =
6)</div><div style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
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font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
border-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">69 Spitfire MK III =
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normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
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style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
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at 7:35 PM, davehogye &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;"><div =
aria-label=3D"Compose body">Hi Bud,</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose =
body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Sorry about this =
misfortune.</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"><br></span></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose =
body"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">To me, one photo reveals a =
bunch.</span></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div =
aria-label=3D"Compose body">I see a lot of heat on the ARP bolt. =
&nbsp;I'm pretty sure that would suggest that parts were just about red =
hot before they went bang, rattle rattle.</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose =
body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">If the bolt broke =
before hand, I don't think it would not have the bluing from =
heat.</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div =
aria-label=3D"Compose body">Good luck with the rebuild.</div><div =
aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose =
body">Get it fixed and bring it west for the Kastner Cup.</div><div =
aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose =
body">Dave H.</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div =
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Oil starvation.  I have been told that this is the way TR3/4 engines can go t=
oo.
The bearing spins after oil loss.
An expert/experienced builder I know (Greg S.) makes crank mods to get extra=
 oil from the center main journal to feed more oil to 2 and 3 on the TR moto=
rs.
You won't see the pressure drop on a gauge.
I'm not sure what Spit racers are doing for this, but I bet someone will pip=
e in on this.
It might help to start your own thread on this, directed to Spit racers.

Dave H.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 13, 2015, at 8:21 PM, Bud R <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
>=20
> The number 2 and 3 rod caps both look like they got real hot. In the pics y=
ou can see #1 rod cap is the correct color, #2 has been hot, #3 is gone, and=
 #4 is the right color. Now what could cause two rods to get hotter than the=
 others? Two spun bearings? Even the crank is blue at the #3 journal.
>> I see a lot of heat on the ARP bolt.  I'm pretty sure that would suggest t=
hat parts were just about red hot before they went bang, rattle rattle.
>>=20
>> If the bolt broke before hand, I don't think it would not have the bluing=
 from heat.
>> Get it fixed and bring it west for the Kastner Cup.

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nature">The bearing spins after oil loss.</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature=
">An expert/experienced builder I know (Greg S.) makes crank mods to get ext=
ra oil from the center main journal to feed more oil to 2 and 3 on the TR mo=
tors.</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">You won't see the pressure drop on=
 a gauge.</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">I'm not sure what Spit racers a=
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comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><meta=
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br></div>The number 2 and 3 rod caps both look like they got real hot. In th=
e pics you can see #1 rod cap is the correct color, #2 has been hot, #3 is g=
one, and #4 is the right color. Now what could cause two rods to get hotter t=
han the others? Two spun bearings? Even the crank is blue at the #3 journal.=
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div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Sorry about this misfortune.</div><div a=
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div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">I see a lot of heat on the ARP bolt. &n=
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fore they went bang, rattle rattle.</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><b=
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mpose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Good luck with the re=
build.</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Co=
mpose body">Get it fixed and bring it west for the Kastner Cup.</div><div ar=
ia-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Dave H.=
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Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2015 11:57:51 -0700

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Thanks Dave, I=92ve started the long process of a rebuild. Block is =
being magna fluxed and if good will be a blank slate since everything =
but the block, head and valve train got trashed.

Have a healthy 2016
Bud

71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6)

bluing from heat.
> From: "Bud R" <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 2:49:06 PM
> I had a grenade go off in my engine at the last race. Not the stock =
rod failing, but it appears on first inspection that an ARP rod bolt =
gave it up. Some bad bad things happened after that with the piston =
destroyed, the crank gouged, and got only knows what else. The block and =
#3 cylinder wall doesn=92t looked scarred but we=92ll see if it survived =
when I have it magnafluxed.=20
>=20
> I knew when I turned the engine upside down on the engine stand and =
lots of metal noises resulted I was in trouble. Now its decision time on =
how to rebuild.=20
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charset=3Dwindows-1252"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Thanks =
Dave, I=92ve started the long process of a rebuild. Block is being magna =
fluxed and if good will be a blank slate since everything but the block, =
head and valve train got trashed.<div><br></div><div>Have a healthy =
2016</div><div>Bud<br><div apple-content-edited=3D"true">
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<br><div><div>On Dec 13, 2015, at 7:35 PM, davehogye &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;"><div =
aria-label=3D"Compose body">Hi Bud,</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose =
body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Sorry about this =
misfortune.</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"><br></span></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose =
body"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">To me, one photo reveals a =
bunch.</span></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div =
aria-label=3D"Compose body">I see a lot of heat on the ARP bolt. =
&nbsp;I'm pretty sure that would suggest that parts were just about red =
hot before they went bang, rattle rattle.</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose =
body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">If the bolt broke =
before hand, I don't think it would not have the bluing from =
heat.</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div =
aria-label=3D"Compose body">Good luck with the rebuild.</div><div =
aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose =
body">Get it fixed and bring it west for the Kastner Cup.</div><div =
aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose =
body">Dave H.</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div =
aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose =
body"><br></div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div style=3D"font-weight:=
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Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"color: =
#000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; =
font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: =
</b>"Bud R" &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>To=
: </b>"McKearn McKearn" &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc: =
</b>"FOT list" &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Sent: =
</b>Sunday, December 13, 2015 2:49:06 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Fot] =
GT6 Connecting rods<br><div><br></div>I had a grenade go off in my =
engine at the last race. Not the stock rod failing, but it appears on =
first inspection that an ARP rod bolt gave it up. Some bad bad things =
happened after that with the piston destroyed, the crank gouged, and got =
only knows what else. The block and #3 cylinder wall doesn=92t looked =
scarred but we=92ll see if it survived when I have it =
magnafluxed.&nbsp;<div><br><div>I knew when I turned the engine upside =
down on the engine stand and lots of metal noises resulted I was in =
trouble. Now its decision time on how to =
rebuild.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Suggestions are welcome. Is this =
the time to go 40 over from 20 since new pistons are needed? I wanted a =
hotter cam for next season but not this way. The crank has serious =
gouges and I don=92t know if its savable. That=92s my wallet in the pic =
along with the other totally broken part.</div><div><div><div =
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text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
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Racing&nbsp;(more than just a haircut)</div><div style=3D"border-collapse:=
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Thanks Brian,  I=92ve started the long process of a rebuild. Block is =
being magna fluxed and if good will be a blank slate since everything =
but the block, head and valve train got trashed.

Bud

71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6)

On Dec 13, 2015, at 4:19 PM, Brian Dennis <[email-masked]> wrote:

> It looks like bearing failure. Which then heated the rod to a nice =
molten orange along with the bolt stretching it to failure or pulling =
the treads from the rod. This happened to me in 2001 at Mount Washington =
hillclimb. My internal parts escaped with a very loud and dramatic noise =
just after the finish line. Lots of spectators to witness it. Also have =
the in car video. I thought it was a little down on power the top half =
of that run;) The branded scar from my end cap was still in the pavement =
when I was there in 2011.
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> As for suggestion, I would go .40 over since it will be need to be =
stripped down bare for inspection anyway.
> Brian
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Thanks =
Brian,&nbsp;&nbsp;I=92ve started the long process of a rebuild. Block is =
being magna fluxed and if good will be a blank slate since everything =
but the block, head and valve train got =
trashed.<div><br></div><div>Bud<br><div><br></div><div><div =
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none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; border-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">Extreme Parts Racing&nbsp;(more than =
just a haircut)</div><div style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: =
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<br><div><div>On Dec 13, 2015, at 4:19 PM, Brian Dennis &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div><div style=3D"background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); =
font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida =
Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_6233"><span =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_6232">It looks like bearing failure. =
Which then heated the rod to a nice molten orange along with the bolt =
stretching it to failure or pulling the treads from the rod. This =
happened to me in 2001 at Mount Washington hillclimb. My internal parts =
escaped with a very loud and dramatic noise just after the finish line. =
Lots of spectators to witness it. Also have the in car video. I thought =
it was a little down on power the top half of that run;) The branded =
scar from my end cap was still in the pavement when I was there in =
2011.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_6233"><span><br></span></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_6233"><span>As for =
suggestion, I would go .40 over since it will be need to be stripped =
down bare for inspection anyway.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_6233"><span><br></span></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr" =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_6233"><span>Brian</span></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_6233"><span>Foster, =
RI</span></div><br> <blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, =
16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;" =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_6246"> <div style=3D"font-family: =
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Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_6244"> <div dir=3D"ltr" =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_6243"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial" =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_6242"> <hr size=3D"1" =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_6241"> <b><span =
style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Bud R &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br> <b =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_7655"><span style=3D"font-weight: =
bold;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_7654">To:</span></b> McKearn =
McKearn &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <br><b =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_7657"><span style=3D"font-weight: =
bold;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_7656">Cc:</span></b> FOT list =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br> =
<b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_7659"><span style=3D"font-weight: =
bold;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_7658">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, =
December 13, 2015 5:49 PM<br> <b =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_7661"><span style=3D"font-weight: =
bold;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_7660">Subject:</span></b> Re: =
[Fot] GT6 Connecting rods<br> </font> </div> <div =
class=3D"y_msg_container" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_6366"><br><div =
id=3D"yiv9003706402"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_6816">I had a =
grenade go off in my engine at the last race. Not the stock rod failing, =
but it appears on first inspection that an ARP rod bolt gave it up. Some =
bad bad things happened after that with the piston destroyed, the crank =
gouged, and got only knows what else. The block and #3 cylinder wall =
doesn=92t looked scarred but we=92ll see if it survived when I have it =
magnafluxed.&nbsp;<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_6819"><br =
clear=3D"none"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_7005">I knew when I =
turned the engine upside down on the engine stand and lots of metal =
noises resulted I was in trouble. Now its decision time on how to =
rebuild.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_6948"><br =
clear=3D"none"></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450047318297_6818">Suggestions are welcome. Is this =
the time to go 40 over from 20 since new pistons are needed? I wanted a =
hotter cam for next season but not this way. The crank has serious =
gouges and I don=92t know if its savable. That=92s my wallet in the pic =
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