Subject: Re: [Fot] Steering Rack TR3

From: <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 09:51:14 -0600

How is the bump steer?

art de armond

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From: Todd Redmond
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 8:21 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Fot] Steering Rack TR3

Friends,

Since I've just completed this, I'd though I'd share.  John Hasty will be 
able to give much more detail as he helped me with this. I'll attempt to add 
photos.
- Purchase a TR7 Steering rack
- shorten the tie rods and have the ends threaded. I added spherical rod 
ends to mine. Had to drill the steering arms to accept the bolt for the rod 
ends
- fabricate brackets for the frame.  I purchased a set from Revington TR. 
part numbers
         RTR3163 and RTR3162
- you'll need the 2 piece steering column. The long 1 piece does not work.
- purchase an electric fan as the standard fan no longer fits

Todd

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My thoughts too. If you want to replace a steering system the design has =
to carefully consider bump steer. To get into the ballpark the length of =
the rack and it=E2=80=99s installation height have to be deigned so that =
the pivoting joints are in line with the upper and lower suspension =
joints (both inner and outer) and the angle of the links is the average =
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rod ends to mine. Had to drill the steering arms to accept the bolt for =
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> - fabricate brackets for the frame.  I purchased a set from Revington =
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work.
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If you want to replace a steering system the design has to carefully =
consider bump steer. To get into the ballpark the length of the rack and =
it=E2=80=99s installation height have to be deigned so that the pivoting =
joints are in line with the upper and lower&nbsp;suspension joints (both =
inner and outer) and the angle of the links is the average of the upper =
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&nbsp;John Hasty will be able to give much more detail as he helped me =
with this. I'll attempt to add photos.<br class=3D"">- Purchase a TR7 =
Steering rack<br class=3D"">- shorten the tie rods and have the ends =
threaded. I added spherical rod ends to mine. Had to drill the steering =
arms to accept the bolt for the rod ends<br class=3D"">- fabricate =
brackets for the frame. &nbsp;I purchased a set from Revington TR. part =
numbers<br class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;RTR3163 =
and RTR3162<br class=3D"">- you'll need the 2 piece steering column. The =
long 1 piece does not work.<br class=3D"">- purchase an electric fan as =
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From: John Hasty <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 16:02:29 +0000

After fitting TR6 upright/trunnion we had to raise the rack to get nearly 0

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Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:51 AM
To: Todd Redmond; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Fot] Steering Rack TR3

How is the bump steer?

art de armond

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Redmond
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 8:21 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Fot] Steering Rack TR3

Friends,

Since I've just completed this, I'd though I'd share.  John Hasty will be able to give much more detail as he helped me with this. I'll attempt to add photos.
- Purchase a TR7 Steering rack
- shorten the tie rods and have the ends threaded. I added spherical rod ends to mine. Had to drill the steering arms to accept the bolt for the rod ends
- fabricate brackets for the frame.  I purchased a set from Revington TR.
part numbers
         RTR3163 and RTR3162
- you'll need the 2 piece steering column. The long 1 piece does not work.
- purchase an electric fan as the standard fan no longer fits

Todd

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From: "Marcel Van Mulders" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 21:51:22 +0100

I had a TR7 rack and pinion on my TR3 race car and it is possible to
eliminate the bump steer : the TR7 rack is about 57cm wide (distance between
the trackrods): this is just small enough to fit trackrods(inclusive rod
ends) of 22 à 23cm. 
If a wider steering rack is fitted (wider than about 58cm), the trackrod
ends will touch the brake discs. Or you have to fit shorter track
rods(shorter than 22.5cm), but then, the bump steer can't be eliminated. For
instance, a TR4 rack is too wide and can not be used in a TR3. I believe the
steering rack of a classic Mini can be adapted to fit in a TR3.
PS : if I remember correctly, TR6 trackrods can be mounted on a TR7 rack and
have the correct length.
Marcel

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Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Steering Rack TR3

How is the bump steer?

art de armond

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Redmond
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 8:21 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Fot] Steering Rack TR3

Friends,

Todd

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From: John Hasty <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 01:15:53 +0000

The rack we sourced from the VA shop I sent to all was a Miny S

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