Subject: [Fot] Kas Cup in-car video

From: Tony Drews via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 01:34:22 -0500

Here's my in-car video from the Kas Cup race at Summit Point last 
weekend.  There are several more races coming (like 3 or 4 of them) 
but this seemed like the one I should put together first.

https://youtu.be/OKciymoaLPA

Cheers, Tony Drews

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From: MadMarx via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 09:47:51 +0200

Very cool race Tony.
Some very great moves to get in front.

What I don't understand.
To stop a session in USA they use a black flag?
In Europe they use a red flag to stop a race caused by an accident or
similar things. Shown on all corners.

A black flack with the car number is used to expel a driver from the race,
disqualification.
Shown only on the finish line.

Seems there are different flags use in our countries.

Very confusing for me, if I ever come back racing with you.
I would have been go on racing because of the black flag with not my car
number shown. :-)

Cheers
Chris

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Von: Fot [mailto:[email-masked]] Im Auftrag von Tony Drews via
Fot
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Mai 2015 08:34
An: [email-masked]
Betreff: [Fot] Kas Cup in-car video

Here's my in-car video from the Kas Cup race at Summit Point last weekend.
There are several more races coming (like 3 or 4 of them) but this seemed
like the one I should put together first.

Cheers, Tony Drews

Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/[email-masked]

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From: Doug Mitchell via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 06:45:58 -0400

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From: MadMarx via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 15:07:21 +0200

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Doug,

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Isn=E2=80=99t that confusing to have different rules for club and pro =
level?

=20

With FIA red flag during a race means stop racing, driving slow without =
overtaking and collecting at the finish line and wait for further =
instructions.

A red flag during a quail session means the same but driving to the =
pitlane and waiting for instructions.

=20

A black white flag for warning a driver, show with car number.

And black flag disqualification.

=20

These flag rules count for all levels of racing world far with FIA.

=20

At RA I learned that there are differences with flags.

Yellow flag

FIA: do not overtake from the point on where the flag is shown

USA: do not overtake as soon you can see the yellow flag=20

=20

Green flag:

FIA: is shown at start and after a yellow flag to allow overtaking, as =
far I understand, in USA after passing the danger zone you can overtake

USA: only shown at the start,=20

=20

Not easy for me to get used to the different way of showing the same =
flags.

=20

Cheers

Chris

=20

=20

Von: Fot [mailto:[email-masked]] Im Auftrag von Doug =
Mitchell via Fot
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Mai 2015 12:46
An: MadMarx via Fot
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Kas Cup in-car video

=20

Chris,

=20

In the States, at the club racing level, the black flag is used to stop =
a race where it is safe to continue at a reduced speed. Officially, it =
means stop racing, continue to the pits at a reduced speed. The red flag =
means to come to a safe and controlled stop and wait for instructions =
from the flag marshals before continuing. It usually is used when there =
is either track blockage or a severe on-track incident requiring =
emergency vehicles.

=20

At the 'professional' level, the red flag is used to stop a session =
(usually practice or qualifying) when safety vehicles are sent out on =
track.

=20

The black flag is used at all levels to signal the driver to they have =
committed some kind of offense. Furled (closed) for a minor warning and =
open for a major one. In these cases it is shown with a number board and =
at start and a black station.=20

=20

=20

=20

Cheers,

Doug

Sent from my mobile phone

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Date: 05/21/2015 3:47 AM (GMT-05:00)=20
Subject: Re: [Fot] Kas Cup in-car video=20

Very cool race Tony.

What I don't understand.

A black flack with the car number is used to expel a driver from the =
race,
disqualification.
Shown only on the finish line.

Cheers
Chris

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mailto:[email-masked]] Im Auftrag von Tony Drews via
Fot
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Mai 2015 08:34
Betreff: [Fot] Kas Cup in-car video

Here's my in-car video from the Kas Cup race at Summit Point last =
weekend.
There are several more races coming (like 3 or 4 of them) but this =
seemed
like the one I should put together first.

 <https://youtu.be/OKciymoaLPA> https://youtu.be/OKciymoaLPA

Cheers, Tony Drews

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D'>Doug,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Isn=E2=80=99t that confusing to have different rules for club and pro =
level?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>With FIA red flag during a race means stop racing, driving slow =
without overtaking and collecting at the finish line and wait for =
further instructions.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>A red flag during a quail session means the same but driving to the =
pitlane and waiting for instructions.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>A black white flag for warning a driver, show with car =
number.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>And black flag disqualification.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>These flag rules count for all levels of racing world far with =
FIA.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>At RA I learned that there are differences with =
flags.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Yellow flag<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>FIA: do not overtake from the point on where the flag is =
shown<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>USA: do not overtake as soon you can see the yellow flag =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Green flag:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>FIA: is shown at start and after a yellow flag to allow overtaking, =
as far I understand, in USA after passing the danger zone you can =
overtake<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>USA: only shown at the start, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Not easy for me to get used to the different way of showing the same =
flags.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
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Fot [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Doug =
Mitchell via Fot<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 21. Mai 2015 =
12:46<br><b>An:</b> MadMarx via Fot<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Fot] Kas Cup =
in-car video<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Chris,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>In the States, at the club racing level, the black =
flag is used to stop a race where it is safe to continue at a reduced =
speed. Officially, it means stop racing, continue to the pits at a =
reduced speed. The red flag means to come to a safe and controlled stop =
and wait for instructions from the flag marshals before continuing. It =
usually is used when there is either track blockage or a severe on-track =
incident requiring emergency vehicles.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>At the 'professional' level, the red flag is used to =
stop a session (usually practice or qualifying) when safety vehicles are =
sent out on track.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The black flag is used at all levels to signal the =
driver to they have committed some kind of offense. Furled (closed) for =
a minor warning and open for a major one. In these cases it is shown =
with a number board and at start and a black =
station.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Doug<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span =
lang=3DEN-US>[email-masked]</span></a><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=3DEN-US>Sent from my mobile =
phone<br><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: MadMarx via =
Fot &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span =
lang=3DEN-US>[email-masked]</span></a><span lang=3DEN-US>&gt; =
<br>Date: 05/21/2015 3:47 AM (GMT-05:00) <br>To: 'Fot' &lt;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span =
lang=3DEN-US>[email-masked]</span></a><span lang=3DEN-US>&gt; =
<br>Subject: Re: [Fot] Kas Cup in-car video <br><br><br>Very cool race =
Tony.<br></span>Some very great moves to get in front.<br><br>What I =
don't understand.<br>To stop a session in USA they use a black =
flag?<br>In Europe they use a red flag to stop a race caused by an =
accident or<br>similar things. Shown on all corners.<br><br>A black =
flack with the car number is used to expel a driver from the =
race,<br>disqualification.<br>Shown only on the finish =
line.<br><br>Seems there are different flags use in our =
countries.<br><br>Very confusing for me, if I ever come back racing with =
you.<br><span lang=3DEN-US>I would have been go on racing because of the =
black flag with not my car<br>number shown. =
:-)<br><br>Cheers<br>Chris<br><br>-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche =
Nachricht-----<br>Von: Fot [</span><a =
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lang=3DEN-US>] Im Auftrag von Tony Drews via<br>Fot<br>Gesendet: =
Donnerstag, 21. Mai 2015 08:34<br>An: </span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span =
lang=3DEN-US>[email-masked]</span></a><span =
lang=3DEN-US><br>Betreff: [Fot] Kas Cup in-car video<br><br>Here's my =
in-car video from the Kas Cup race at Summit Point last =
weekend.<br></span>There are several more races coming (like 3 or 4 of =
them) but this seemed<br>like the one I should put together =
first.<br><br><a href=3D"https://youtu.be/OKciymoaLPA"><span =
lang=3DEN-US>https://youtu.be/OKciymoaLPA</span></a><span =
lang=3DEN-US><br><br>Cheers, Tony =
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In a message dated 05/21/2015 1:02:45 PM Central Daylight Time, 
[email-masked] writes:

> The black flag is used at all levels to signal the driver to they have 
> committed some kind of offense. Furled (closed) for a minor warning and open 
> for a major one. In these cases it is shown with a number board and at 
> start and a black station. 
> 

Right!

Furled BLACK flag means, "...you've done something wrong.  We have seen it. 
 Do not do it again!"

Waving BLACK flag means, "...you SOB!  You have done it again!  STOP IT!"

Usually the third time they actually throw the BLACK flag at you.

Bill Dentinger
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 PTSIZE=3D12 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message=
 dated 05/21/2015 1:02:45 PM Central Daylight Time, [email-masked] wri=
tes:<BR>
<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LE=
FT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">The black flag is used at=
 all levels to signal the driver to they have committed some kind of offen=
se. Furled (closed) for a minor warning and open for a major one. In these=
 cases it is shown with a number board and at start and a black station.=
 <BR>
</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
</FONT><FONT  COLOR=3D"#400040" BACK=3D"#ffffff" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR=
: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 PTSIZE=3D12 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=
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</FONT><FONT  COLOR=3D"#400040" BACK=3D"#ffffff" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR=
: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 PTSIZE=3D10 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=
=3D"0">Right!<BR>
<BR>
Furled BLACK flag means, "...you've done something wrong.&nbsp; We have se=
en it.&nbsp; Do not do it again!"<BR>
<BR>
Waving BLACK flag means, "...you SOB!&nbsp; You have done it again!&nbsp;=
 STOP IT!"<BR>
<BR>
Usually the third time they actually throw the BLACK flag at you.<BR>
<BR>
Bill Dentinger<BR>
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Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 14:39:51 -0400

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