Subject: Re: [Fot] [6pack] tr250 oil pressure issue

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It is also very hard to measure what you really need to know which is
the clearance across the parting line.   Micrometers and dial bore=20
gauges to the rescue!

art de armond

From: [email-masked]=20
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:38 PM
To: Andrew Packard=20
Cc: [email-masked] ; [email-masked]=20
Subject: Re: [Fot] [6pack] tr250 oil pressure issue

I learned to never trust plastigauge. .0005 too tight on a race motor =
and it's all over with. A street motor may not care though

but still reading plastigauge can be a matter opinion or interpretation =
instead of a hard dimension.

Whatever became of the came bearing clearance point I read about, or =
lack of cam bearings. That seemed the most plausible.

I also read something about a crack in a main casting that caused =
similar symptoms.

jim g

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From: "Andrew Packard" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked], [email-masked]
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 3:50:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] [6pack] tr250 oil pressure issue

I'm the guy with the TR250 oil pressure problem.  I replaced my oil =
pressure regulator spring with a HD one.  The one I took out measured =
short and the new one was longer than spec from Bentley.  It helped, but =
after I got well up to temp, pressure disappeared at idle and water =
boiled over.  I'm travelling for work this week, so I dropped off my car =
with my mechanic friend with a new oil pump and some plastic gauge to =
check the bearing clearance.  I'll find out the status soon.  This is =
more than a little frustrating with Triumphest starting next week.
Andy

From: Yahoo <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 8:22 AM
Subject: [6pack] tr250 oil pressure issue

Did the guy with the oil pressure issue on his new 250 motor ever get =
this
sorted?  inquiring minds want to know.   =20

I'm hoping to do a repeat on the
San Diego mechanic with (300,000?) miles on his 250 and never did the =
bottom
end.  In the Triumph magazine article he said he just does regular oil
changes with STP.    I've shaved the head and a hotter cam so I may have =
added
additional stress to the engine.  my oil pressure hasn't deteriorated in =
16
years of ownerhip.

Cheers,  Bruce Simms 73 tr6

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<DIV>the clearance across the parting line.&nbsp;&nbsp; Micrometers and =
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<P>Whatever became of the came bearing clearance point I read about, or =
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similar=20
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<P>jim g</P>
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longer than=20
spec from Bentley.&nbsp; It helped, but after I got well up to temp, =
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The USA measure system seems to be inconsistent:

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You use micrometers instead of microINCHES. J

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Von: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] Im =
Auftrag von [email-masked]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. September 2013 19:50
An: [email-masked]; Andrew Packard
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Betreff: Re: [Fot] [6pack] tr250 oil pressure issue

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26. September 2013 19:50<br><b>An:</b> [email-masked]; Andrew =
Packard<br><b>Cc:</b> [email-masked]; =
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From: Bill Babcock <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 11:57:26 -0700

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This might be obvious but it seems to me that step one is to eliminate the
bypass as a possibility, not just with a better spring, but block it.

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 26, 2013, at 10:57, "[email-masked]" <
[email-masked]> wrote:

 It is also very hard to measure what you really need to know which is
the clearance across the parting line.   Micrometers and dial bore
gauges to the rescue!

art de armond

 *From:* [email-masked]
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:38 PM
*To:* Andrew Packard <[email-masked]>
*Cc:* [email-masked] ; [email-masked]
*Subject:* Re: [Fot] [6pack] tr250 oil pressure issue

I learned to never trust plastigauge. .0005 too tight on a race motor and
it's all over with. A street motor may not care though

but still reading plastigauge can be a matter opinion or interpretation
instead of a hard dimension.

Whatever became of the came bearing clearance point I read about, or lack
of cam bearings. That seemed the most plausible.

I also read something about a crack in a main casting that caused similar
symptoms.

jim g

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*From: *"Andrew Packard" <[email-masked]>
*To: [email-masked], [email-masked]
*Sent: *Wednesday, September 25, 2013 3:50:26 PM
*Subject: *Re: [Fot] [6pack] tr250 oil pressure issue

 I'm the guy with the TR250 oil pressure problem.  I replaced my oil
pressure regulator spring with a HD one.  The one I took out measured short
and the new one was longer than spec from Bentley.  It helped, but after I
got well up to temp, pressure disappeared at idle and water boiled over.
I'm travelling for work this week, so I dropped off my car with my mechanic
friend with a new oil pump and some plastic gauge to check the bearing
clearance.  I'll find out the status soon.  This is more than a little
frustrating with Triumphest starting next week.
Andy

  *From:* Yahoo <[email-masked]>
*To:* "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 25, 2013 8:22 AM
*Subject:* [6pack] tr250 oil pressure issue

Did the guy with the oil pressure issue on his new 250 motor ever get this
sorted?  inquiring minds want to know.

I'm hoping to do a repeat on the
San Diego mechanic with (300,000?) miles on his 250 and never did the bottom
end.  In the Triumph magazine article he said he just does regular oil
changes with STP.    I've shaved the head and a hotter cam so I may have
added
additional stress to the engine.  my oil pressure hasn't deteriorated in 16
years of ownerhip.

[email-masked]

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<div>=A0</div></div>
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<p>I learned to never trust plastigauge. .0005 too tight on a race motor an=
d=20
it&#39;s all over with. A street motor may not care though</p>
<p>but still reading plastigauge can be a matter opinion or interpretation=
=20
instead of a hard dimension.</p>
<p>Whatever became of the came bearing clearance point I read about, or lac=
k of=20
cam bearings. That seemed the most plausible.</p>
<p>I also read something about a crack in a main casting that caused simila=
r=20
symptoms.</p>
<p>jim g</p>
<p><br><br>=A0</p>
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</p><hr id=3D"zwchr">

<p><b>From: </b>&quot;Andrew Packard&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:apackard68=
@att.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>To:=20
</b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>, <a hr=
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<div style><span style>I&#39;m the guy with the TR250=20
oil pressure problem.=A0 I replaced my oil pressure regulator spring with a=
=20
HD one.=A0 The one I took out measured short and the new one was longer tha=
n=20
spec from Bentley.=A0 It helped, but after I got well up to temp, pressure=
=20
disappeared at idle and water boiled over.=A0 I&#39;m travelling for work t=
his=20
week, so I dropped off my car with my mechanic friend with a new oil pump a=
nd=20
some plastic gauge to check the bearing clearance.=A0 I&#39;ll find out the=
=20
status soon.=A0 This is more than a little frustrating with Triumphest=20
starting next week.<var id=3D"yui-ie-cursor"></var></span></div>
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new 250 motor ever get this<br>sorted?=A0 inquiring minds want to=20
know.=A0=A0=A0 <br><br>I&#39;m hoping to do a repeat on the<br>San Diego=20
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In the Triumph magazine article he said he just does regular oil<br>changes=
 with=20
STP.=A0=A0=A0 I&#39;ve shaved the head and a hotter cam so I may have=20
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We seem inconsistent?

While in England, I bought gas by the liter, put into a car that had =
speed measurements in kph, but the economy was measures by imperial mpg, =
driving down the M2 saw a sign stating my exit was 5 km ahead and as I =
approached was a sign stating roundabout 300 yds.
And all this whilst driving on the offside of the road!
Charly Mitchel
----- Original Message -----=20
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  =20

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>We seem inconsistent?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>While in England, I bought gas by the =
liter, put=20
into a car that had speed measurements in kph, but the economy was =
measures by=20
imperial mpg, driving down the M2 saw a sign stating my exit was&nbsp;5 =
km ahead=20
and as I approached was a sign stating roundabout 300 yds.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>And all this whilst driving on the =
offside of the=20
road!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Charly Mitchel<BR>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=[email-masked]=20
  href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">MadMarx</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=[email-masked]=20
  href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 26, =
2013 2:21=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Fot] [6pack] =
tr250 oil=20
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  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; =
FONT-SIZE: 10pt"=20
  lang=3DEN-US>The USA measure system seems to be=20
  inconsistent:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; =
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  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; =
FONT-SIZE: 10pt"=20
  lang=3DEN-US>You use micrometers instead of microINCHES. </SPAN><SPAN=20
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  =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>=
=20
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issue<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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Andy,=20
What are you doing about the overheating. If it is heating up that fast you m=
ay have a head gasket problem. If you have a head gasket leak it might inclu=
de combustion gas into the crankcase. That would heat the oil up too, and th=
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ld tell the story.=20

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<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Andy,&nbsp;</div><div>What are you doing about the overheating. If it is heating up that fast you may have a head gasket problem. If you have a head gasket leak it might include combustion gas into the crankcase. That would heat the oil up too, and thin it out, drop oil pressures. I doubt you have an oil temp gauge but it would tell the story.&nbsp;<br><br>Bob Kramer<div>Sent from my iPhone</div></div><div><br>On Sep 27, 2013, at 9:14 AM, "Charly Mitchel" &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>

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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">We seem inconsistent?</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">While in England, I bought gas by the liter, put 
into a car that had speed measurements in kph, but the economy was measures by 
imperial mpg, driving down the M2 saw a sign stating my exit was&nbsp;5 km ahead 
and as I approached was a sign stating roundabout 300 yds.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">And all this whilst driving on the offside of the 
road!</font></div>
<div>Charly Mitchel<br>----- Original Message ----- </div>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <div style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><b>From:</b> 
  <a title="[email-masked]" href="mailto:[email-masked]">MadMarx</a> </div>
  <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="[email-masked]" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> </div>
  <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 26, 2013 2:21 
  PM</div>
  <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] [6pack] tr250 oil 
  pressure issue</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div class="WordSection1">
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US">The USA measure system seems to be 
  inconsistent:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US">You use micrometers instead of microINCHES. </span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US">J</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
  <div>
  <div style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt">
  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Von:</span></b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> 
  [<a href="mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] <b>Im Auftrag von </b><a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Gesendet:</b> 
  Donnerstag, 26. September 2013 19:50<br><b>An:</b> <a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>; Andrew 
  Packard<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>; <a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: 
  [Fot] [6pack] tr250 oil pressure issue<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
  <div>
  <div>
  <div>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">It is also very hard 
  to measure what you really need to know which is<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
  <div>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">the clearance across 
  the parting line.&nbsp;&nbsp; Micrometers and dial bore 
  <o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
  <div>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">gauges to the 
  rescue!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
  <div>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
  <div>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">art de 
  armond<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div>
  <p>
  </p><hr>

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