From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 1 04:41:56 2000 From: RoadsteRob@aol.com To: earlydatsun@listbot.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 06:41:11 EDT Subject: Latest web update Hi lists Latest web update (and probably the last for a while):- -'Monthly Archive' - A nice drawing from Road and Track of the 1969 ARRC, including Jack Scoville's DP winning 2000. -Silvia Pages - A 1966 Japanese full line brochure including the Silvia and 1600. (I've only just realised how big this image is, so please be patient). Access through the main page http://www.datsun.org/fairlady These may be the last updates for a few months (except for the monthly archive update) and I'm signing off the lists also for a while - I'm channelling all my efforts into the possibility of a new career. I've made the shortlist for editor of a national magazine (not car related I'm afraid) - not bad for someone who's been in banking all his life, and even if this doesn't work out this has spurred me on to look at similar opportunities - (sounds like a mid-life crisis I know, although the thought of at least doubling my existing salary does appeal!). In the meantime thanks for all of your support, and if you come across anything that will add to the webpages please E-Mail me. I'm still in the market. Regards Rob The Classic Fairlady Roadster Register From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 1 09:15:12 2000 From: Russell Southwell To: Dat2000srl@aol.com Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2000 10:09:47 -0700 Subject: Re: Three parts cars for sale 67, 68, 69. asking 2K for all 209 is Stockton Ca. I looked at three cars 4 years ago a 67 primered no eng, a blue 69/70 frozen eng no head, found the head buried in the dirt, red 68/w fordV6 for $2000 in Tenn. passed on them the frames had been sitting sunken in the ground for years no covers or tops, used as trash recepticles. they disapeared a few weeks later, this could be the ones, roadsters do travel. I found mine in San Diego, western Kan.,and eastern Ind. I ended up with 5 hubcaps for the 1200 mile round trip to look at those 3. Russ Southwell 70 1600 4Dead 69 2000 Dat2000srl@aol.com wrote: > Three parts cars, I don't know where area code is '209' I don't see rust. > might be worth the sheet metal here is the URL > > http://classiccarsclassified.com/viewad.src?Rec=247 > > Larry > 69 2000 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 1 10:20:45 2000 From: "G-A-Russell" To: "Nathen Ruffcorn" Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 11:13:54 -0500 Subject: Re: Check those brakes!! Adrenalin? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathen Ruffcorn" To: Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 10:26 PM Subject: Check those brakes!! > Had a REALLY close call today! ;-( Had somebody pull out RIGHT in front of > me. She never saw me, but heard me with all four tires howling, bringing me > to a suprisingly quick stop. WAY to close for me! Made me think back to > last year when I was contemplating whether I should drop the $'s to totally > rebuild my brakes. Today I can say it was money WELL spent! If your brakes > are less than they should be, please do yourself a favor and fix them this > winter. Fix your horn too! > > I have found it helpful to take the same mindset I would if I were riding a > motorcycle-EVERYONE IS OUT TO KILL YOU. Be careful out there! > > Nathan > > P.S. Anyone have any thoughts as to why my idle jumped from 800 RPM to 2000 > RPM for about 30 seconds after the hard stop and then returned to normal??? > (not that I plan to make the tire screaching stops a habit ) > > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 1 10:45:32 2000 From: Ray Cole To: KWS711@aol.com, PLETCH5@aol.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 00:44:38 -0700 Subject: Re: Rear comp springs I installed the Nissan comp front springs and anti-sway bar on my 68 2000 and then had a local spring shop add another leaf to my existing springs. Stiffened it up and the degree of stiffness matches the front almost perfectly. May have just been lucky. Ride is firm and you do feel every bump but it is not unbearable. This may be a little softer than official comp rear springs but it works. Ray 68 2000 68 1600 Stockton CA At 01:40 AM 10/01/2000 EDT, KWS711@aol.com wrote: >Ken, > >I have heard the comp rear springs really stiffen it up. May be too stiff for >a lot of street driving. Send Gordon an e-mail and I'm sure he will fill you >in. He >is off list for a while. If you need his address, let me know. > >I have the front comp springs and sway bar and the KYB's. Really like the way >it handles. > >Kim >68 2000 CSP >NOWROC > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 1 17:13:02 2000 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 19:11:50 EDT Subject: new member want to be hello all, I just got an IM from someone wanting to sign up on the roadster list and looking for a car. He is in Youngstown, Ohio and his e-mail address is YouTurnTheScrews@aol.com. I didn't keep the instructions for signing onto the list, so could someone send them to him? If anyone lives in that area you might want to drop him a line. keith From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 1 18:44:15 2000 From: "Mike Faggart" To: , Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 20:43:25 -0400 Subject: Re: Three parts cars for sale 67, 68, 69. asking 2K for all Larry, I can use some of the parts off high windshield cars also, mike faggart 68 2L ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 9:18 PM Subject: Three parts cars for sale 67, 68, 69. asking 2K for all > Three parts cars, I don't know where area code is '209' I don't see rust. > might be worth the sheet metal here is the URL > > http://classiccarsclassified.com/viewad.src?Rec=247 > > Larry > 69 2000 > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 1 19:52:02 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: , Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 21:47:12 -0400 Subject: Re: new member want to be Took care of it! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 7:11 PM Subject: new member want to be > hello all, > > I just got an IM from someone wanting to sign up on the roadster list and > looking for a car. He is in Youngstown, Ohio and his e-mail address is > YouTurnTheScrews@aol.com. I didn't keep the instructions for signing onto the > list, so could someone send them to him? If anyone lives in that area you > might want to drop him a line. > > keith From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 1 19:54:03 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: , Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 21:49:29 -0400 Subject: Re: 67.5 2000 in chicago Larry, This car was sold by Craig Halstead to the person in ChiChi town. It is not the same car as was at the Glen. That was owned by Mike Sachs. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 11:44 PM Subject: 67.5 2000 in chicago > Does anyone know this car???? When I was at the Glen this year there was a > 67.5 2000 with this sn SRL000036. But I don't think that guy planned to sell > it, and he lives in PA. > This person is asking 2,500 for the car > > 1967 Datsun 2000, This is an ad for a rare 67 1/2 Solex 2000. There were only > about 200 built and it is the most collectable of all the Datsun roadsters, > combining the lower windshield style, with the factory 2000, plus special > touches. It is serial # SRL31100036, or #36 of the solex cars. It is nearly a > complete car. It has surface rust throughout, and is rusted through is a few > places, though generally solid. It originally had a white exterior and red > interior.This is a great project car, for those who love the 2000s, and who > appreciate the rarity of the 67 1/2. A minted out example has gone for as > high as $20,000. (773) 728-1369 > more details From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 1 20:33:50 2000 From: VulForge@aol.com To: nruffcorn@prodigy.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 22:33:13 EDT Subject: Re: Check those brakes!! In a message dated 9/30/00 10:30:42 PM Central Daylight Time, nruffcorn@prodigy.net writes: << P.S. Anyone have any thoughts as to why my idle jumped from 800 RPM to 2000 RPM for about 30 seconds after the hard stop and then returned to normal??? >> Your car's heart was racing! Russell Criswell Kansas City MO 67 1600 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 1 22:08:04 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: datsunroadsters@egroups.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 00:07:29 EDT Subject: Miscellaneous questions Howdy all, I have a few oddball questions that I wanted to pose to the lists. What is the concensus about using some type of rigid line with flexible ends to replace heater hoses? I am thinking about copper or aluminum tubing with rubber heater hose sections to connect them to their appropriate points. I am not concerned about beauty here, but rather I am thinking durability. Did anyone find one of those 2000 intake water T fittings floating about that they wanted to part with? (Pardon the pun) I need a couple of heat shields as well. I have considered fabricating them, but I need suggestions about sizes, etc for these for a Solex setup and a 2000 SU setup. OR, if one of you has a spare of each that is cluttering up your garage, I would be happy to trade for them (or just one of them!) Thanks! Sid _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 00:05:34 2000 From: Mike Poorboy To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2000 22:44:32 -0700 Subject: Anyone recognize this guy List, Look what showed up on Ebay. I wonder if I am going to get my money back :-) http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=455739461&r=0&t=0 Mike Nowroc From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 02:25:01 2000 From: Roman Rist To: datsun roadsters Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 01:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: roadster registry website is up! Hi, folks the registry site is up and all links are working! keep in mind this is not the registry results, they will be on Mark Dent's site. this is the roadsterregistry home site, the teaser if you will, the advertisement.... I'm very happy with the site, there are some pics and a few pages that actually work! More links will be added, for now check it out and enjoy! Roman Rist http://www.geocities.com/roadsterregistry/index.html __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 05:30:26 2000 From: "Ben Zech" To: bitterrootprop@nidlink.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 11:29:49 GMT Subject: Re: Anyone recognize this guy doubt it.... >From: Mike Poorboy >Reply-To: Mike Poorboy >To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" >Subject: Anyone recognize this guy >Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2000 22:44:32 -0700 > >List, >Look what showed up on Ebay. I wonder if I am going to get my >money back :-) > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=455739461&r=0&t=0 > >Mike >Nowroc > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 06:37:29 2000 From: YouTurnTheScrews@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 08:36:49 EDT Subject: list I need a 1600 pr 2000 datsun roadster in any working condition for a low price! im not talking thousands ..like 1500 and under thanks guys i will pick up anywhere dj tressler youturnthescrews@aol.com From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 07:13:52 2000 From: Mark Dent To: Mike Poorboy , Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 09:10:06 -0400 Subject: Re: Anyone recognize this guy At 10:44 PM 10/1/00 -0700, Mike Poorboy wrote: >List, >Look what showed up on Ebay. I wonder if I am going to get my >money back :-) > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=455739461&r=0&t=0 > >Mike >Nowroc We should bid it up under a few fake names, then disappear like he did to us Mark Baltimore 1968 1600 http://www.datsunroadsters.com http://www.roadster.org From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 07:52:48 2000 From: CarterCM@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 09:52:04 EDT Subject: Re: roadster registry website is up! In a message dated 10/2/00 1:26:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ristguitars@yahoo.com writes: << the registry site is up and all links are working! >> Nice job, Roman! Craig Carter Fountain Valley, CA 1970 SRL311 #14100 "DAT2000" From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 08:17:36 2000 From: YouTurnTheScrews@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 10:16:27 EDT Subject: news on my search I will also offer anyone selling there datsun for a low price the oertunity to trade (not that its a big deal) for a 1987 mercury cougar LS with all power options including windows seats mirrors excedera digi guages ,cd player cold air warm heater. totally rebuilt with millions and hundreds of dollars of new parts and all body work completed ..needs paint thats all. And also 200 dollars with that ..if not thats fine i am stil looking for one! thank you all very much Sincerely DJ Tressler From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 08:21:05 2000 From: "Ben Zech" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 14:20:02 GMT Subject: Beck Arnley Listing I have deleted my BA parts listing, can someone repost. Thanks, BZ-RZ N.C. SPL/SRL "SEROC" motormite@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 08:21:53 2000 From: Michael Tarelka To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 07:21:01 -0700 Subject: Three Questions: Re my 1600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------F4F4F084A4CABA83F331FFB1 List, - Three Qustions I pulled the center console on my 1600 to fiddle with the cigarrette lighter. Under the carpet, where the lighter sits is a round hole, which is open; you can see the ground and other mechanical items. Was this area sealed with some type of barrier? Is there a piece missing? Who sells a carpet piece just for the trunk? Lastly, the top of the wind screen, seems to be missing a piece of chrome or some other type of trim. The sheet metal comes together above the wind shield, with holes periodically spaced in the metal. Any pics or clues as to what I am missing? Thanks in advance. Michael Tarelka Alameda, CA --------------F4F4F084A4CABA83F331FFB1 name="mtarelka.vcf" Content-Description: Card for Michael Tarelka Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="mtarelka.vcf" begin:vcard n:Tarelka;Michael x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 note:SPL 311-26026 x-mozilla-cpt:;22416 fn:Michael Tarelka end:vcard --------------F4F4F084A4CABA83F331FFB1-- From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 09:01:06 2000 From: "Laury, Victor" To: "'Roman Rist'" , Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 07:59:37 -0700 Subject: RE: roadster registry website is up! "In a world without chrome, where most cars are loosely based on the design of a jelly bean, a world where modern sportscars have air conditioning and their drivers leave the tops up on the nicest of days...A few of us are left.. The Datsun Roadster Owners!" Dam! That is poetry! Good job Roman! Victor 70 SRL 31113136 Los Angeles http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=123073 SoCalROC http://www.ameri-eagle.com/datsun/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 09:09:42 2000 From: PLETCH5@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 11:08:41 EDT Subject: Fixed clutch this weekend Well I finally did my clutch this weekend,I thought I was hard on the disc and thats why it was slipping after 10,000 miles. The pressure plate had about 1/4 of the diaphram was stuck in the release position and the disc was fine. I still replaced the whole assembly and now I can get a healthly second gear scratch and do donuts like never before. Ken DATSTER From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 09:14:05 2000 From: bob_wilson@agilent.com To: mtarelka@home.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 09:13:08 -0600 Subject: RE: Three Questions: Re my 1600 boundary="------------F4F4F084A4C 1) There is a rubber "boot-like thing" that fills that hole. You need to ask a parts supplier if still available. 2) Don't know -- I made my own. 3) Are the holes at the top of the windshield for the convertible top latches? There are 3 latches on my '70 1600. I think the one in the middle has 4 holes and the ends have 2 holes each. Bob Wilson -----Original Message----- From: Michael Tarelka [mailto:mtarelka@home.com] Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 7:21 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Three Questions: Re my 1600 boundary="------------F4F4F084A4CABA83F331FFB1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------F4F4F084A4CABA83F331FFB1 List, - Three Qustions I pulled the center console on my 1600 to fiddle with the cigarrette lighter. Under the carpet, where the lighter sits is a round hole, which is open; you can see the ground and other mechanical items. Was this area sealed with some type of barrier? Is there a piece missing? Who sells a carpet piece just for the trunk? Lastly, the top of the wind screen, seems to be missing a piece of chrome or some other type of trim. The sheet metal comes together above the wind shield, with holes periodically spaced in the metal. Any pics or clues as to what I am missing? Thanks in advance. Michael Tarelka Alameda, CA --------------F4F4F084A4CABA83F331FFB1 name="mtarelka.vcf" Content-Description: Card for Michael Tarelka Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="mtarelka.vcf" begin:vcard n:Tarelka;Michael x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 note:SPL 311-26026 x-mozilla-cpt:;22416 fn:Michael Tarelka end:vcard --------------F4F4F084A4CABA83F331FFB1-- From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 09:17:44 2000 From: bob_wilson@agilent.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 09:16:44 -0600 Subject: Steering Wheel Cover List, With all this talk about steering wheels, thought I'd ask: Anyone have a good suggestion for a cover for the steering wheel on my '70 1600? Thought leather would be good, bought one from a catalog and it was too big for the diameter of the wheel that your fingers wrap around (~3/4"). My wheel is black plastic and is cracked in several places and thought a nice cover might be a good solution to replacing it. Bob Wilson From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 09:18:22 2000 From: bob_wilson@agilent.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 09:17:23 -0600 Subject: Seat Cover Material List, Any comments on what is the best material for covering Roadster seats? I am comparing vinyl, cloth and leather? Any experience out there? Bob Wilson From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 09:18:28 2000 From: "Brad Holmes" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 10:17:14 +600 Subject: Wheels / Rims This is directed to Alex Avery in particular and to anyone else who may have an answer to my question. Alex, the picture of your car in the Roadster Registry has the type of wheels / rims I'm looking for. They look similar to Gordon Glasgow's car. I know his rims are Appliance (brand) wire mags, but they are apparently out of production. What is the brand / model / size of your rims? Does anyone else know where those type (wire mag) rims can be purchased? I've been searching the web and haven't found anything close. (rice rims abound) Thanks soon, 68, 2000 Brad Holmes bholmes@monk.aum.edu (334) 244-3713 Fax (334) 244-3792 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 09:35:21 2000 From: Doris To: Michael Tarelka Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 08:30:50 -0700 Subject: Re: Three Questions: Re my Michael Tarelka wrote: > Who sells a carpet piece just for the trunk? Did the trunks have carpet in them? Hmmmm, I have a snap in rubber mat. From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 09:36:38 2000 From: "Kyle Hagemann" To: "311" Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 08:19:49 -0700 Subject: Good News? (was Bad News) need opinions and parts Hi all! Last week, my '69 U20 died at 6000RPM; for all I knew, it put a rod out the block; very rough, lots of underhood engine noise, backfiring/pinging, etc. Pulled the valve cover off this weekend (two nuts, big job;-) - and found the #3 exhaust valve spring was broken! The inner spring, locks/keeper were all still in place. The rocker lodged itself betwixt the #3 intake and exhaust valves. The lash pad wound up in the rear oil drainback hole. The cam lobe got a couple of small gouges (presumably from the dismounting rocker). But these are on the base circle, not the lobe or ramps. Checked compression - 180-155-180-180. The low hole, #2, does not have any visible problems, and (AIR) there's always been one that's a bit lower than the others. *AND* I haven't adjusted the valves recently.... so needless to say, the low compression doesn't strike me as a problem. Questions aplenty- -does it seem that the one weak valve spring could be the cause of my car's reluctance to rev past 6,000? -and/or does the failure of one spring suggest the others are worn out as well? -does anyone have ONE (1) outer valve spring I can beg/borrow/ steal? At the very least, I'd like to get it started up to be sure nothing else is trashed. -is the cam damage anything to be concerned about? Should I just smooth out the scratches and call it good? Thanks a ton! ____ Kyle Hagemann, Born-Again Grease Monkey From Beyond _.;(____\____ 72 240Z, L28/E88/SU, 5sp, all poly - Z Beast | _ | | _'@`, 71 PL521, LZ22, SUs, 2" exh, 4spd - The Hulk `-(#)------(#)-< 69 2000, Lousy rackin' frackin' U20 - Broken ------------------- 84 Maxima, Tokicos/ST springs, 238K - Mr Max http://www.sonic.net/~kyle http://www.sonic.net/~kyle/cars.html From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 09:36:42 2000 From: "Kyle Hagemann" To: "Nathen Ruffcorn" , Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 08:29:26 -0700 Subject: Re: Check those brakes!! From: "Nathen Ruffcorn" snip > P.S. Anyone have any thoughts as to why my idle jumped from 800 RPM to 2000 > RPM for about 30 seconds after the hard stop and then returned to normal??? > (not that I plan to make the tire screaching stops a habit ) Hi Nathan- Contrary to list wisdom, I doubt the car's heart was racing or adrenaline was pumping. Unless you have some pretty slick cyborgean aftermarket add ons, that is;-P I've experienced the same thing you describe; can't say for certain what it is, but I'd guess the inertia of stopping so quickly goofs up something. (duh, going out on a limb there, huh?:-) It'd have to be either the SU pistons or the floats. The floats seem like the most likely culprit, but I don't quite understand how that could be; maybe- the floats sink from the force, allowing fuel pump pressure to effectively pressurize the fuel nozzle? Or the pistons - which are under a variety of forces - gravity, spring, vacuum. Seems that stopping rapidly could goof up the sensitive balance, allowing the carb pistons to rise, feeding the beast more fuel, which raises engine vac, etc.? Kyle '69 2000, iffy brakes, worse engine From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 09:42:55 2000 From: "Laury, Victor" To: "'Michael Tarelka'" , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 08:41:33 -0700 Subject: RE: Three Questions: Re my 1600 boundary="------------F4F4F084A4C Michael Tarelka of Alameda, CA, asked - >I pulled the center console on my 1600 to fiddle with the cigarrette lighter. Under the carpet, where the lighter sits is a round hole, which is open; you can see the ground and other mechanical items. Was this area sealed with some type of barrier? Is there a piece missing? ----------- I have it in good authority, that this rubber boot is made of unobtainium (NLA). I still have mine. Although it's not in very good shape. I asked around, because I don't care much for cracked, dried up rubber parts in my car and found nothing. Victor 70 SRL 31113136 Los Angeles http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=123073 SoCalROC http://www.ameri-eagle.com/datsun/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 09:50:01 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: dhbain@uswest.net, mtarelka@home.com Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 11:48:59 EDT Subject: Re: Three Questions: Re my 1600boundary="------------F4F4F084A4CABA83F331FFB1" Stan Chernoff has them! Sid >From: Doris >Reply-To: Doris >To: Michael Tarelka >CC: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" >Subject: Re: Three Questions: Re my >1600boundary="------------F4F4F084A4CABA83F331FFB1" >Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 08:30:50 -0700 > >Michael Tarelka wrote: > > > Who sells a carpet piece just for the trunk? > >Did the trunks have carpet in them? Hmmmm, I have a snap in rubber mat. > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 09:50:08 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: dhbain@uswest.net, mtarelka@home.com Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 11:49:10 EDT Subject: Re: Three Questions: Re my 1600boundary="------------F4F4F084A4CABA83F331FFB1" Stan Chernoff has them! Sid >From: Doris >Reply-To: Doris >To: Michael Tarelka >CC: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" >Subject: Re: Three Questions: Re my >1600boundary="------------F4F4F084A4CABA83F331FFB1" >Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 08:30:50 -0700 > >Michael Tarelka wrote: > > > Who sells a carpet piece just for the trunk? > >Did the trunks have carpet in them? Hmmmm, I have a snap in rubber mat. > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 10:52:42 2000 From: "Brad Holmes" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 11:50:58 +600 Subject: (Fwd) Wheels / rims - From: "Brad Holmes" Organization: Auburn University at Montgomery To: Bob Wilson bob_wilson@agilent.com Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 11:33:02 +600 Subject: (Fwd) Wheels / rims Priority: normal (system has returned answers to your email address twice) may be a problem on my end, that's why I'm replying this way) Bob Wilson I also saw a set of rims on a 240Z on ebay that have similar rims. They are ENKIE model EK92. So I contacted ENKIE to see if they were still available...nope. I also had previously email Gordon and asked him about his rims and he told me they were out of production. The search goes on.......... Brad Holmes bholmes@monk.aum.edu (334) 244-3713 Fax (334) 244-3792 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 11:01:56 2000 From: Alex Avery To: "Brad Holmes" , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 12:58:20 -0400 Subject: Re: Wheels / Rims Yeah, I must say I was thrilled when I found those rims--they're perfect for the roadster. First, I'm a Z car man, and it is actually my father who owns the roadster (his second--"best damn sports car I've ever owned"). I convinced him to buy it after a buddy put it up for sale, under the condition that I'd keep it running and looking good for him. So now we are officially a classic Datsun family. Anyway, a year ago I drove 1200 miles to All-Z-Car-Specialists in Dallas, TX to pick up a low-rust 280 Z to fully restore and hot-rod. All-Z-Car-Specialists is a small Z car-only salvage yard and that's where I found the cool "bulging-spoke" rims you are asking about on a very beatup 240 Z. I paid only $100 for the set of four. It was difficult to find info on these wheels but this is what I know: They were made by the "Shelby" wheel company in the early 1970s. Of course, the company no longer exists. They are 14" x 6" rims. The company had bought a license to use Carrol Shelby's name when he was hard up for money at that time. The "bulging spoke" pattern (if you look closely at the wheels, the spokes bulge outward together and then come back in at the center) was their most popular wheel and apparently lots of them were made. I have no idea where to get more of these wheels and in fact I looked for several weeks in vain for center caps that would fit the set we have for the roadster. I resorted to having an old set of chrome center caps rechromed and then I wrapped electrical tape around the lip so that they would fit snugly in the center cap opening and not fall off. These we put on after the photo in the registry was taken, but the center caps really do "finish" the look of the wheels nicely. According to one old/used wheel merchant I spoke with in Pennsylvania who is my source for the info above, there were thousands of sets of these wheels made in the early '70s, so you may be able to find a set. Obviously they are out of production. As to Gordon Glasgow's "Appliance" wire mag rims, one of my Z car buddies has a set of four of these exact rims on his Z car (which isn't running) that he might be willing to sell for the right price (He's a bit hard up for cash at the moment). Are you interested Brad? I'll find out what kind of price he'd be willing to sell the wheels for (if indeed he's willing to sell, which he may not considering how cool the wheels are) and get back to you. Alex Avery, Staunton, Virginia (540) 337-6387 or home: (540) 885-5667 At 10:17 AM 10/2/00 +0600, Brad Holmes wrote: >This is directed to Alex Avery in particular and to anyone else >who may have an answer to my question. > >Alex, the picture of your car in the Roadster Registry has the >type of wheels / rims I'm looking for. They look similar to Gordon >Glasgow's car. I know his rims are Appliance (brand) wire mags, >but they are apparently out of production. > >What is the brand / model / size of your rims? > >Does anyone else know where those type (wire mag) rims can >be purchased? > >I've been searching the web and haven't found anything close. >(rice rims abound) > >Thanks >soon, 68, 2000 > >Brad Holmes >bholmes@monk.aum.edu >(334) 244-3713 >Fax (334) 244-3792 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 11:11:36 2000 From: YouTurnTheScrews@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 13:10:18 EDT Subject: wheels There are z car bulging spoke rims of the shelby brand name here in a bone yeard in ohio. They are 150 dollars for all 4 of them i dont really have the cash to fron but if there is any interested then maybe we can work something out DJ Tressler From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 11:51:31 2000 From: Marc Tyler To: , Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 12:56:25 -0500 Subject: Re: Steering Wheel Cover bob_wilson@agilent.com wrote > > >List, > >With all this talk about steering wheels, thought I'd ask: Anyone have a >good suggestion for a cover for the steering wheel on my '70 1600? Thought >leather would be good, bought one from a catalog and it was too big for the >diameter of the wheel that your fingers wrap around (~3/4"). My wheel is >black plastic and is cracked in several places and thought a nice cover >might be a good solution to replacing it. > >Bob Wilson I got a similar leather wrap years ago that was slightly too big in the dimension you're talking about . it makes a small ridge on the inside of the wheel that i don't find objectionable. I've been wondering about getting some of that thin foam tape that I've seen on bike handlebars and wrapping the wheel with that, then using the leather cover over. Would this make the outside Diameter too big? Marc T. From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 11:56:10 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 10:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Installing my Tonneau myself. Hello All, I really want to install my Full Tonneau cover soon. Problem is is that to have an uphostry shop do it would cost more than I paid for it... So,.. can I do this myself?? I would have to install the hardware on the top to match the snaps on the body-while getting a nice tight fit. I think someone else has done this. Could anybody please give me a rundown on how this is done?? Are any special tools needed?? Thanks, Daniel 69 2000 SF CA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 12:12:28 2000 From: RiedelD@pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 14:09:46 -0400 Subject: 2000 dimensions and garage thoughts Hi folks, Been off for a while... good to be back. I need to get my '69 2000 under some cover so I'm looking to throw together a 'garage' of sorts. Initially, I plan to make essentially a shed with the structure up on concrete supports, but I do hope to eventually pour a cement floor. I don't think I have the room or the money to go with a double garage, but I'd like to aim for sort of 1.5 cars so that I have ample work space. Any thoughts on what sort of dimensions to shoot for? What exactly are the dimensions of a 2000 anyway? I'm guessing there are a wealth of "I sure wish I'd made my garage 3 feet wider!" type stories out there. cheers, Dave Riedel Victoria, BC '69 2000 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 12:13:09 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 11:11:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Trunk Carpeting Update-kinda long > Hello All, > Well I have decided that I want to carpet the trunk. And it is my > understanding that none of our vendors carry a trunk carpet kit like I want.. > One that covers the 'back' side of the trunk, the wheel well bulges and the > floor. Basically everything you see easily when the trunk is open. > On the advice of Ken I skipped the Kragen quality carpet..It was really > really cheap looking, and went to a carpet store. Have you ever been in a > carpet store and asked for ~8 square feet of medium quality BLACK carpet?? The > guy looked at me like I had two heads......He pointed me to the 'remanants' > section and said good luck....I jsut don't think black is a popular color > for carpet nowadays...but all sorts of beige are (yuck). On to the next store. > This place had a better selection of smaller remanants...But still no black.. > then it hit me.. Runners!!!! Runners are ~4ft wide pieces of carpet that > people use in hallways and you buy it by the foot!!! ANd you can get good > quality stuff and they don't look at you like your nuts!!! And they had a > 4'by6' feet runner remanant of good quality black carpet that they sold me > for cheap. > So, if you are looking to do your own carpet and want good quality > stuff..you might want to check out this option. > > Question: whats the best way to cut carpet?? Whats the best way to keep > the ends from unravaling?? The guy at the store said use a hot glue gun on the > edges and I think thats a pretty great idea. > Anywho, hopefully by the big show this Sunday I will have a nicely > carpeted trunk. > > Daniel 69 2000 > SF CA > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 12:30:52 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 11:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Engine Grounding again and again... Hello All, Man I don't understand why my car is always falling victim to the bad ground demons. What constitutes a good-complete set of ground wires?? On the right front I have two thick batt cables one goes to the neg post of the batt-from the alt. and one goes to the frame-which also has a connection from the battery-dual post batt sure are fun. On the left front I have a 8 guage cable that goes from the engine to frame..but thats apparently not enough. I added another 8 guage wire from one of the starter bolts to the frame. Now my car turns over with more vim and vigor than I remember and everything appears to be well. Its strange before I added the starter-frame cable my car would not turn over or do anything.,. But I was not smoking the throttle cable in fact I coudl not find where the current was going.... Daniel 69 2000 SF CA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 13:28:27 2000 From: SPL311RDST@aol.com To: motormite@hotmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 15:26:53 EDT Subject: Re: Beck Arnley Listing Beck Arnley Parts for Datsun Roadster | INDEX Here ya go ! http://www.geocities.com/spl311rdst/parts/ba_partsindex.html (in case the link doesnt work through my AOL mail) Laurie :-) 70 SPL311 69 SRL311 Chandler, AZ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 13:30:37 2000 From: SPL311RDST@aol.com To: mtarelka@home.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 15:30:00 EDT Subject: Re: Three Questions: Re my 1600 boundary="------------F4F4F084A4CABA83F331FFB1" In a message dated 10/2/00 7:24:08 AM US Mountain Standard Time, mtarelka@home.com writes: > Lastly, the top of the wind screen, seems to be missing a piece of > chrome or some other type of trim. The sheet metal comes together above > the wind shield, with holes periodically spaced in the metal. Any pics > or clues as to what I am missing? I went down to pep boys and bought the long strip of black rubber door edge moulding. It self-glued right on & didn't interfere w/the conv. top. The only mods neede were trimming a bit out where the soft-top latches are. Laurie :-) 70 SPL311 69 SRL311 Chandler, AZ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 14:25:51 2000 From: Roman Rist To: Michael Tarelka Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 13:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Three Questions: --- Michael Tarelka wrote: > Lastly, the top of the wind screen, seems to be missing a piece of > chrome or some other type of trim. clues as to what I am missing? Michael , If it is a 69 you are missing a stainless trim peice, assuming you are talking about holes in the outside of the windscreen. Roman Rist ===== ristguitars@yahoo.com http://www.geocities.com/roadsterregistry/index.html http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=379995 __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 15:09:14 2000 From: JAY FORD To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 16:13:58 -0500 Subject: Calgary Roadster Has anyone seen the restored '68 Canadian roadster? I need a person who has seen it up close and personal? Thanks Jay Ford Chicago, IL From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 15:48:12 2000 From: Nathen Ruffcorn To: "Kyle Hagemann" , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 17:47:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Check those brakes!! Thanks for the replys on this one. I've come to the conclusion that in fact the increased rpm WAS due to her heart racing after the sudden stop. She has always been known to be a little "high strung" anyway . I'm still a little skidish when driving the roadster but believe it or not I'm glad it happened. Made me realize how vulnerable we are cruising around in our little cars. I've got time to get over it as I'm grounded anyway, waiting for parts from nissan to replace a rear wheel bearing. Can't wait to tackle that one! Nathan PS. Remember, don't ignore those brakes..............;-) From: "Nathen Ruffcorn" snip > P.S. Anyone have any thoughts as to why my idle jumped from 800 RPM to 2000 > RPM for about 30 seconds after the hard stop and then returned to normal??? > (not that I plan to make the tire screaching stops a habit ) Hi Nathan- Contrary to list wisdom, I doubt the car's heart was racing or adrenaline was pumping. Unless you have some pretty slick cyborgean aftermarket add ons, that is;-P I've experienced the same thing you describe; can't say for certain what it is, but I'd guess the inertia of stopping so quickly goofs up something. (duh, going out on a limb there, huh?:-) It'd have to be either the SU pistons or the floats. The floats seem like the most likely culprit, but I don't quite understand how that could be; maybe- the floats sink from the force, allowing fuel pump pressure to effectively pressurize the fuel nozzle? Or the pistons - which are under a variety of forces - gravity, spring, vacuum. Seems that stopping rapidly could goof up the sensitive balance, allowing the carb pistons to rise, feeding the beast more fuel, which raises engine vac, etc.? Kyle '69 2000, iffy brakes, worse engine From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 16:17:39 2000 From: Nathen Ruffcorn To: "Brad Holmes" , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 18:17:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: RE: Wheels / Rims Brad- You may check with your local tire/wheel store for used wheels. Usually not the chain stores but the mom and pop shops. These places usually carry older stock and are more willing to go the extra mile for their customers. A lot of times they may have or at least know how to get what you're looking for. My father picked up his set (similar looking to Gordon's) at one of these places really resonably. Maybe someone will remember or have it bookmarked, but awhile back there was someone on ebay selling datsun Z wheels. He had three or four different sets and I THINK one set was like the ones you are describing. The pics showed the wheels still bolted to the cars (in a boneyard). His starting bid was always around $200 if I remember right. Sounded kind of high for sight unseen. I don't ever remember seeing any of them sell but it might be worth checking into. Nathan This is directed to Alex Avery in particular and to anyone else who may have an answer to my question. Alex, the picture of your car in the Roadster Registry has the type of wheels / rims I'm looking for. They look similar to Gordon Glasgow's car. I know his rims are Appliance (brand) wire mags, but they are apparently out of production. What is the brand / model / size of your rims? Does anyone else know where those type (wire mag) rims can be purchased? I've been searching the web and haven't found anything close. (rice rims abound) Thanks soon, 68, 2000 Brad Holmes bholmes@monk.aum.edu (334) 244-3713 Fax (334) 244-3792 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 16:49:06 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Mark Dent" , Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 18:44:11 -0400 Subject: Re: Anyone recognize this guy Yeah, With my luck I'd be the winner - then what?????? I'll have to take up a collection too!! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Dent To: Mike Poorboy ; Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 9:10 AM Subject: Re: Anyone recognize this guy > At 10:44 PM 10/1/00 -0700, Mike Poorboy wrote: > >List, > >Look what showed up on Ebay. I wonder if I am going to get my > >money back :-) > > > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=455739461 &r=0&t=0 > > > >Mike > >Nowroc > We should bid it up under a few fake names, then disappear like he did to us > Mark > Baltimore > 1968 1600 > http://www.datsunroadsters.com > http://www.roadster.org > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 16:52:55 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 18:48:17 -0400 Subject: Re: Steering Wheel Cover Bob, I bought a Wheel Skin from JC Whitneys many years ago that fits well. They do come in different diameter sizes and thicknesses for the wheel. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 11:16 AM Subject: Steering Wheel Cover > > > List, > > With all this talk about steering wheels, thought I'd ask: Anyone have a > good suggestion for a cover for the steering wheel on my '70 1600? Thought > leather would be good, bought one from a catalog and it was too big for the > diameter of the wheel that your fingers wrap around (~3/4"). My wheel is > black plastic and is cracked in several places and thought a nice cover > might be a good solution to replacing it. > > Bob Wilson From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 16:55:54 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: , Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 18:51:08 -0400 Subject: Re: Fixed clutch this weekend Ken, Keep on doing that and you're need another clutch real soon. Ken "Carlos Montoya" Datster. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 11:08 AM Subject: Fixed clutch this weekend > Well I finally did my clutch this weekend,I thought I was hard on the disc > and thats why it was slipping after 10,000 miles. The pressure plate had > about 1/4 of the diaphram was stuck in the release position and the disc was > fine. I still replaced the whole assembly and now I can get a healthly second > gear scratch and do donuts like never before. > > > Ken > DATSTER From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 16:58:34 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 18:53:55 -0400 Subject: Re: Seat Cover Material Personally I like cloth as it breathes well and doesn't get hot when left in the sun and your back doesn't sweat nearly as much. How about some piping to match your car too!!!!!! I like vinyl the least as it doesn't breath at all. Leather = $$$$$$$$$ Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 11:17 AM Subject: Seat Cover Material > > > List, > > Any comments on what is the best material for covering Roadster seats? I am > comparing vinyl, cloth and leather? Any experience out there? > > Bob Wilson From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 17:04:56 2000 From: Mike Poorboy To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 16:07:01 -0700 Subject: transmission help I need help diagnosing the problem with my clutch on my Toyota Fourrunner. When I push in the clutch pedal the engine dies out. This happens even in neutral. I have never had this happen before. The truck has 270,000 miles on it and the clutch was changed just about 150,000 ago. I know I need a new clutch and pressure plate. What i can't understand is why it is doing this in neutral. My best guess is a broken finger or spring. Thanks for any and all help, Mike Nowroc From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 17:05:40 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Kyle Hagemann" , Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 19:00:23 -0400 Subject: Re: Check those brakes!! I think it may be the throttle cable binding as after I loosened the throttle cable as recommended the problem ended. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Kyle Hagemann To: Nathen Ruffcorn ; Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 11:29 AM Subject: Re: Check those brakes!! > From: "Nathen Ruffcorn" > snip > > P.S. Anyone have any thoughts as to why my idle jumped from 800 RPM to 2000 > > RPM for about 30 seconds after the hard stop and then returned to normal??? > > (not that I plan to make the tire screaching stops a habit ) > > Hi Nathan- > > Contrary to list wisdom, I doubt the car's heart was racing or adrenaline > was pumping. Unless you have some pretty slick cyborgean aftermarket add > ons, that is;-P > > I've experienced the same thing you describe; can't say for certain what > it is, but I'd guess the inertia of stopping so quickly goofs up something. > (duh, going out on a limb there, huh?:-) > > It'd have to be either the SU pistons or the floats. The floats seem like > the most likely culprit, but I don't quite understand how that could be; > maybe- the floats sink from the force, allowing fuel pump pressure > to effectively pressurize the fuel nozzle? > > Or the pistons - which are under a variety of forces - gravity, spring, > vacuum. Seems that stopping rapidly could goof up the sensitive balance, > allowing the carb pistons to rise, feeding the beast more fuel, which > raises engine vac, etc.? > > Kyle > '69 2000, iffy brakes, worse engine > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 17:11:48 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Daniel Neuman" , Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 19:07:01 -0400 Subject: Re: Engine Grounding again and again... Dan, Also run a ground from the alternator to the frame and the body. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Neuman To: Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 2:29 PM Subject: Engine Grounding again and again... > Hello All, > Man I don't understand why my car is always falling victim to the bad > ground demons. > What constitutes a good-complete set of ground wires?? > On the right front I have two thick batt cables one goes to the neg post > of the batt-from the alt. and one goes to the frame-which also has a connection > from the battery-dual post batt sure are fun. On the left front I have a 8 > guage cable that goes from the engine to frame..but thats apparently not > enough. I added another 8 guage wire from one of the starter bolts to the > frame. Now my car turns over with more vim and vigor than I remember and > everything appears to be well. > Its strange before I added the starter-frame cable my car would not > turn over or do anything.,. But I was not smoking the throttle cable in > fact I coudl not find where the current was going.... > Daniel 69 2000 > SF CA > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 17:27:22 2000 From: Mike Poorboy To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 16:29:09 -0700 Subject: Re: transmission help I found out what it was. It is the input shaft stuck on the pilot bearing. This causes it to act as one unit. Joe Klokkevold answered it for me. Mike Mike Poorboy wrote: > I need help diagnosing the problem with my clutch on my > Toyota Fourrunner. When I push in the clutch pedal the engine > dies out. This happens even in neutral. I have never had this happen > before. The truck has 270,000 miles on it and the clutch was changed > just about 150,000 ago. I know I need a new clutch and pressure plate. > What i can't understand is why it is doing this in neutral. My best > guess is > a broken finger or spring. > > Thanks for any and all help, > Mike > Nowroc From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 18:06:38 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Roman Rist" , Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 20:01:13 -0400 Subject: Re: roadster registry website is up! Roman, Nice job!!!!!! BTW, are you going to uplaod the info which we sent to you prior to the Registry being up? Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Roman Rist To: datsun roadsters Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 4:24 AM Subject: roadster registry website is up! > Hi, folks > > the registry site is up and all links are working! > keep in mind this is not the registry results, they will be on Mark > Dent's site. > > this is the roadsterregistry home site, the teaser if you will, the > advertisement.... > > > I'm very happy with the site, there are some pics and a few pages that > actually work! > > > More links will be added, for now check it out and enjoy! > > > Roman Rist > http://www.geocities.com/roadsterregistry/index.html > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! > http://photos.yahoo.com/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 18:29:44 2000 From: Pamela Pepoy To: Roman Rist Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 17:37:39 -0700 Subject: Re: roadster registry website is up! Hi Roman, Nice Job! Those photos are enough to make an MG owner drool. Well, maybe not. Their bulbs don't burn that bright. Brought tears to my eyes. Guy Tempe. Roman Rist wrote: > Hi, folks > > the registry site is up and all links are working! > keep in mind this is not the registry results, they will be on Mark > Dent's site. > > this is the roadsterregistry home site, the teaser if you will, the > advertisement.... > > I'm very happy with the site, there are some pics and a few pages that > actually work! > > More links will be added, for now check it out and enjoy! > > Roman Rist > http://www.geocities.com/roadsterregistry/index.html > > __________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! > http://photos.yahoo.com/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 18:34:15 2000 From: Pamela Pepoy To: bob_wilson@agilent.com Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 17:42:20 -0700 Subject: Re: Steering Wheel Cover Bob, The POR paint people sell a steering wheel repair kit. If its as good as their paint it might be worth looking into. Call 916-455-2007. Guy 67.5 SPL Tempe, AZ bob_wilson@agilent.com wrote: > List, > > With all this talk about steering wheels, thought I'd ask: Anyone have a > good suggestion for a cover for the steering wheel on my '70 1600? Thought > leather would be good, bought one from a catalog and it was too big for the > diameter of the wheel that your fingers wrap around (~3/4"). My wheel is > black plastic and is cracked in several places and thought a nice cover > might be a good solution to replacing it. > > Bob Wilson From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 18:43:04 2000 From: SPL311RDST@aol.com To: bob_wilson@agilent.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 20:42:31 EDT Subject: Re: Seat Cover Material In a message dated 10/2/00 8:19:31 AM US Mountain Standard Time, bob_wilson@agilent.com writes: > Any comments on what is the best material for covering Roadster seats? I am > comparing vinyl, cloth and leather? Any experience out there? Things to consider: how much uncovered sun will it get, how much you drive, and $$ to spend & time for upkeep. I'm w/Mike on cloth for comfort - BUT- consider how long your car sits out in the sun uncovered. I have some wonderful seat-belt shaped black stripes where I let the new cloth seat cover sit out for just ONE afternoon. (all faded around them) I'd hate to see that happen to a complete cloth recover. If ya keep it in the garage, & covered w/your butt most of the time - then that's OK. Also - can be a pain to clean when the neighbor's cats take up residence (or when the unsuspecting passenger gets motion sickness from a "spirited" ride!) Leather: Awsome to sit on, BUT, mondo $$, and sun will deteriorate fast too , unless you really keep up on the Lexol/Hide Food. (if you're in the wet areas it gets "mushy & crumbly" when exposed) Vinyl: icky, sticky, BUT prolly the most cost effective & durable of the three. 'specially out in the elements. You can always cover w/ cheepie cloth covers for comfort & toss when they are worn. Vinyl is much easier to keep clean too. I also suspect that a set from one of our vendors is prolly a bit less $$ then a custom upolstery job too. .02 Laurie :-) 70 SPL311 69 SRL311 Chandler, AZ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 19:16:23 2000 From: To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 20:15:27 -0500 Subject: Wheels I have a set of four chrome wheels that I would be happy to part with if someone wants them. They are nearly perfect 14" by 5" or 6". These are not expensive (if new) or wowsy, but they are clean. E-mail me and figure out how to ship 'em to ya (your dime) and they are yours. I think that I have lug nuts as well. I'll see if I can get some picture scanned if ayone is interested. Chris Brucciani Marietta, GA 1968 2000 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 19:20:05 2000 From: SRL311KA@aol.com To: kwhcpa@addler.net, nruffcorn@prodigy.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 21:19:08 EDT Subject: Re: Check those brakes!! My opinion(guess) is that the throttle cable is binding due to the engine moving forward on it's mounts. Bill Kenyon SRL311 KA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 19:32:10 2000 From: SRL311KA@aol.com To: bitterrootprop@nidlink.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 21:30:45 EDT Subject: Re: transmission help Have someone pump the pedal and watch the front engine crank pulley. Your main bearing thrust surfaces may be worn out allowing the crank to move forward and loading the engine enough to kill it. Bill Kenyon SRL311 KA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 19:35:26 2000 From: Russell Southwell To: Michael Tarelka Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 20:29:47 -0700 Subject: Re: Three Questions: Re my If its a 70 model they had a vinyl or rubber strip at the top of the windshield frame, 69 and earlier had staiinless strip.trunk had rubber mat, buy some remnants and make one, prolly turn out better than having it done. Russ Southwell 70 1600 Michael Tarelka wrote: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --------------F4F4F084A4CABA83F331FFB1 > > List, - Three Qustions > > I pulled the center console on my 1600 to fiddle with the cigarrette > lighter. Under the carpet, where the lighter sits is a round hole, > which is open; you can see the ground and other mechanical items. Was > this area sealed with some type of barrier? Is there a piece missing? > > Who sells a carpet piece just for the trunk? > > Lastly, the top of the wind screen, seems to be missing a piece of > chrome or some other type of trim. The sheet metal comes together above > the wind shield, with holes periodically spaced in the metal. Any pics > or clues as to what I am missing? > > Thanks in advance. > > Michael Tarelka > Alameda, CA > > --------------F4F4F084A4CABA83F331FFB1 > name="mtarelka.vcf" > Content-Description: Card for Michael Tarelka > Content-Disposition: attachment; > filename="mtarelka.vcf" > > begin:vcard > n:Tarelka;Michael > x-mozilla-html:FALSE > adr:;;;;;; > version:2.1 > note:SPL 311-26026 > x-mozilla-cpt:;22416 > fn:Michael Tarelka > end:vcard > > --------------F4F4F084A4CABA83F331FFB1-- From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 20:02:01 2000 From: "Bill Barber" To: Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 19:02:14 -0700 Subject: Re: Seat Cover Material Anyone try wetsuit material like the Xterra? Then you can spill your beer - err - soda on the seat and not worry about it. Great when you are pulling the roadster behind the boat. Cats don't like the feel of it either..... ;-) Bill Barber SRL311-09363 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 20:10:37 2000 From: "Stephen McCartney" To: ristguitars@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 02:09:45 GMT Subject: Re: (I'm a) riceboy Hey guys, I have a confession to make. I'm a ricer. That's right. A true Riceboy manages to put performance stickers and labels on his car, for bits that just aren't there. Like a "Type R" badge on a standard Honda Civic. or "Ralliart" stickers on a Hyundai. You know the sort of thing. Where does that fit with me? A Roadster owner? Well... My car has a badge on the back (from a previous owner)just under the Datsun badge, that reads "Twin Cam" ! Sorry, there's a ricer in your midst! 8^) Cheers, Steve (1968 2000 Solex - Stock!) _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 21:32:27 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: gppepoy@cybertrails.com, bob_wilson@agilent.com Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 23:31:47 EDT Subject: Re: Steering Wheel Cover Eastwood sells a repair kit as well. It amounts to some PC 7 epoxy (GREAT stuff) some small odds and ends (sandpaper and the like) and a booklet on doing the repair. It is much cheaper to get some PC 7 at the hardware store, a few popsicle sticks and some sandpaper and just have at it. Look at it this way, if it comes out ugly, you can cover it up with the leater! >From: Pamela Pepoy >Reply-To: Pamela Pepoy >To: bob_wilson@agilent.com >CC: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Re: Steering Wheel Cover >Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 17:42:20 -0700 > >Bob, >The POR paint people sell a steering wheel repair kit. If its as good as >their >paint it might be worth looking into. Call 916-455-2007. >Guy 67.5 SPL >Tempe, AZ > >bob_wilson@agilent.com wrote: > > > List, > > > > With all this talk about steering wheels, thought I'd ask: Anyone have >a > > good suggestion for a cover for the steering wheel on my '70 1600? >Thought > > leather would be good, bought one from a catalog and it was too big for >the > > diameter of the wheel that your fingers wrap around (~3/4"). My wheel >is > > black plastic and is cracked in several places and thought a nice cover > > might be a good solution to replacing it. > > > > Bob Wilson > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 21:35:11 2000 From: "Pam & Paul Bauman" To: "Roadster List" Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 20:31:39 -0700 Subject: interior Well, began vinyl install process over the weekend. Some pics on the Photopoint site. Title it 'How cut vinyl badly and break another window all in the space of a week! So much fun...anyway, there they are. Paul Bauman Westminster, CA 67 1600 http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=881168&a=6499541 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 21:36:25 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: birukun@san.rr.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 23:36:03 EDT Subject: Re: Seat Cover Material Years ago when I surfed, you could buy seatcovers in various sizes made of the neoprene material (with the cloth cover) that wetsuits are made of. The downside is that they were some really obnoxious colors. Sid >From: "Bill Barber" >Reply-To: "Bill Barber" >To: >Subject: Re: Seat Cover Material >Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 19:02:14 -0700 > >Anyone try wetsuit material like the Xterra? Then you can spill your beer - >err - soda on the seat and not worry about it. Great when you are pulling >the roadster behind the boat. > >Cats don't like the feel of it either..... ;-) > >Bill Barber >SRL311-09363 > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 21:38:33 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: sgam@hotmail.com, ristguitars@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 23:37:59 EDT Subject: Re: (I'm a) riceboy This brings to mind a question. In the book Datsun Roadsters there is a road test of a 67 2000 in which Lou Mondello is referenced. It states that he was developing a twin cam head for a roadster. Does anyone know anything about what became of it? Sid >From: "Stephen McCartney" >Reply-To: "Stephen McCartney" >To: ristguitars@yahoo.com >CC: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Re: (I'm a) riceboy >Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 02:09:45 GMT > >Hey guys, I have a confession to make. I'm a ricer. That's right. A true >Riceboy manages to put performance stickers and labels on his car, for bits >that just aren't there. Like a "Type R" badge on a standard Honda Civic. >or "Ralliart" stickers on a Hyundai. You know the sort of thing. Where >does that fit with me? A Roadster owner? Well... > >My car has a badge on the back (from a previous owner)just under the Datsun >badge, that reads "Twin Cam" ! > >Sorry, there's a ricer in your midst! 8^) > >Cheers, > >Steve >(1968 2000 Solex - Stock!) > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 22:09:01 2000 From: "Jim Plegue" To: "roadster list" Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 21:05:24 -0700 Subject: squeaks I need help with a diagnosis. My '70 roadster has so many squeaks emanating from the suspension (front, I believe) it's almost embarrassing. Shocks? Springs? Bushings? All of em? None of em? The car had a lube job right after I bought it and it didn't seem to make any difference, though I'll bet it's due for one again. I'm told the car has newer front shocks and has been lowered two inches in front. Anyone ever face a similar squeaky fate? Should I buy a gallon of WD40? Jim Berkeley 70 Roadster From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 2 23:58:52 2000 From: "Victor Laury" To: "Jim Plegue" Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 22:40:25 -0700 Subject: Re: squeaks Jim, Please believe me when I tell you, "You didn't get a lube job, no matter what the service man told you". I can be 100% sure that if you take the time on your back and check all your lube points, You will find that half of them still have the plugs installed and not zerk fittings. This means, these grease points HAVE NOT been greased since Yokohama Japan! I was very surprized to find this was true on my roadster and have continued to find this very thing on other roadsters I have serviced for freinds. This is a real "I love my car" chore, and it's good for you to do. You get to know your front suspension and monitor it's condition. It is a Messy job but not a tough one. for less than $50.00 you can get a medium quality grease gun, high quality grease and a box of ten 45 degree zerks and a box of ten straight zerks and then you will be sure that you got a lube job. If it still sqeaks after that, You will have had the opertunity to have inspected you suspension to isolate the problem. Read Tom's post about zerk fittings below. If you lived in L.A you could do it here! I'm afraid Berkley is out of my territory! Victor 70 SRL 31113136 Los Angeles http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=123073 SoCalROC http://www.ameri-eagle.com/datsun/ Tom Walter's post March 2000 (edited) -------------------- The 22 zerk fittings is to drive datsun roadster owners crazy finding them. ;-) PER SIDE Upper A-arm 2 Lower A-Arm 2 Upper ball joint 1 lower ball joint 1 That is six, both sides = 12 Tie Rod Ends 6 Idler Arm Housing 1 Rear Hand brake linkage 1 (pivot on rear axle) Inside U-joint 2 (some U joints do NOT have zerk fittings) There really are 22 zerk fittings. Happy greasing. To find the INNER tie rod zerk fittings, you'll have to more the steering wheel back and forth. Not uncommon to still find the little plugs on the back of the tie rod end fittings. Remove, install zerk and grease away. Some roadsters have limited clearance where the tie rod passes the frame, so you may need to reinsert the little plug. 1/4" zerk fittings - common at autoparts stores. From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 00:02:24 2000 From: Neil Levine To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 23:02:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Interesting sighting While channel surfing this evening, I happened on a new show "Tucker" just at the moment the camera zoomed in on what I think was a nicely restored mid '60's Chevy El Camino. They zoomed in on the front of the car where I could clearly see the original California yellow on black license plate. What got my attention was the "TQR 078" on the plate. I've got the original California yellow on black plates on my roadster "TQR 063". What's the odds of seeing one so close in the series (on TV yet)? Has anyone else seen other original plates close to the ones on your roadster? Neil Levine '66 1600 SPL311-06576 Purchased originally at Morie Sages Universal City Datsun (in the San Fernando Valley?) I think. From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 01:15:24 2000 From: "fredkatz" To: "Victor Laury" , "Jim Plegue" Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 00:14:51 -0700 Subject: Re: squeaks Victor speaks the truth! The only way to be sure a lube job was done is to do it yourself. It's not difficult, just very messy. I've caught mechanics skipping on this chore by doing my own inspection when picking up the car. They show you a checklist, with all these items supposedly done. Pretty hard to convince me when I see the zerk fittings covered with dirt (the dirt gets knocked off when the grease gun is applied), or worse yet plus with dirt on them. Never believe the service man, check it yourself. Or, better yet do it yourself. When you do it, cover the ground with something to catch the gobs of grease. Makes cleanup easier. Hate to preach a common sense item, but be sure the car is supported real good with jackstands and not just the carjack when you crawl underneath. Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: "Victor Laury" To: "Jim Plegue" Cc: Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 10:40 PM Subject: Re: squeaks > Jim, > > Please believe me when I tell you, "You didn't get a lube job, no matter > what the service man told you". I can be 100% sure that if you take the time > on your back and check all your lube points, You will find that half of them > still have the plugs installed and not zerk fittings. This means, these > grease points HAVE NOT been greased since Yokohama Japan! > > I was very surprized to find this was true on my roadster and have continued > to find this very thing on other roadsters I have serviced for freinds. > This is a real "I love my car" chore, and it's good for you to do. You get > to know your front suspension and monitor it's condition. It is a Messy job > but not a tough one. for less than $50.00 you can get a medium quality > grease gun, high quality grease and a box of ten 45 degree zerks and a box > of ten straight zerks and then you will be sure that you got a lube job. If > it still sqeaks after that, You will have had the opertunity to have > inspected you suspension to isolate the problem. Read Tom's post about zerk > fittings below. > > If you lived in L.A you could do it here! I'm afraid Berkley is out of my > territory! > > Victor > 70 SRL 31113136 > Los Angeles > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=123073 > SoCalROC http://www.ameri-eagle.com/datsun/ > > Tom Walter's post March 2000 (edited) > -------------------- > The 22 zerk fittings is to drive datsun roadster owners crazy finding them. > ;-) > > PER SIDE > Upper A-arm 2 > Lower A-Arm 2 > Upper ball joint 1 > lower ball joint 1 > > That is six, both sides = 12 > > Tie Rod Ends 6 > > Idler Arm Housing 1 > > Rear Hand brake linkage 1 > (pivot on rear axle) > > Inside U-joint 2 > (some U joints do > NOT have zerk fittings) > > There really are 22 zerk fittings. Happy greasing. To find the INNER tie rod > zerk fittings, you'll have to more the steering wheel back and forth. Not > uncommon to still find the little plugs on the back of the tie rod end > fittings. Remove, install zerk and grease away. Some roadsters have limited > clearance where the tie rod passes the frame, so you may need to reinsert > the little plug. > > 1/4" zerk fittings - common at autoparts stores. > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 02:29:33 2000 From: Thomas the Swede To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 10:29:04 +0200 Subject: Re: (I'm a) riceboy On the subject of badges "that aren't there" a funny badge was sold in Germany many years ago. It was "sex-cylinder" with six rabbits in a row. Popular on VW Golf (Rabbit) This was before the VR-6 model. Thomas Stephen McCartney wrote: > Hey guys, I have a confession to make. I'm a ricer. That's right. A true > Riceboy manages to put performance stickers and labels on his car, for bits > that just aren't there. Like a "Type R" badge on a standard Honda Civic. > or "Ralliart" stickers on a Hyundai. You know the sort of thing. Where > does that fit with me? A Roadster owner? Well... > > My car has a badge on the back (from a previous owner)just under the Datsun > badge, that reads "Twin Cam" ! > > Sorry, there's a ricer in your midst! 8^) > > Cheers, > > Steve > (1968 2000 Solex - Stock!) > > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 06:13:37 2000 From: Mark Dent To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 08:08:43 -0400 Subject: Roadster for sale in Oaklahoma I got this from my page: Comments: I have a 68 Roadster that I need to sell quickly. Do you know of anyone who wants a project car and many parts? Very reasonable on the money, I guarantee it! Car is SPL311 20801, engine is freshly rebuilt five main, very good body. Have three other engines as well. Need to sell it all, my Mother is sick. I am in Oklahoma. Name: Randy Tucker Email: tacit@chickasaw.com Mark Baltimore 1968 1600 http://www.datsunroadsters.com http://www.roadster.org From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 07:34:09 2000 From: YouTurnTheScrews@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 09:31:58 EDT Subject: a couple Questions Is there a 5 speed transmission that will match up to the bellhousing of a 1600 or 2000 roadster? Also i was wondering if they made any power steering units for this car or aftermarket or would this need to be customized? thanks for the info everybody sincerely DJ Tressler From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 08:04:53 2000 From: R Haug To: YouTurnTheScrews@aol.com, Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 07:00:48 -0700 Subject: Re: a couple Questions YouTurnTheScrews@aol.com wrote: > Is there a 5 speed transmission that will match up to the bellhousing of a > 1600 or 2000 roadster? Yes, the 2000 came from the factory with a 5 speed transmission. > Also I was wondering if they made any power steering > units for this car or aftermarket or would this need to be customized? None from the factory. Custom unit like maybe a power rack and pinion. I would check with the street rod people. they do this type of work on street rods all the time. Bob From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 08:20:00 2000 From: Alex Avery To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 10:15:28 -0400 Subject: Steering box questions Hey, thanks for all of the tips we've received so far on a number of things. We just tightened up the steering via the screw on top of the steering box, but now I have a few questions: 1. We tightened the steering box until there was almost no play in the steering--about 1/2 inch play, whereas before there was ~3 inches. But this has increased steering effort enough to make us wonder if we tightened it too much. What is the rule here? 2. We looked but didn't see any zirc/grease nipples on the steering box--How does one lubricate the steering box. I'm assuming that there is a plug where a zirc fitting should go, and there appeared to be at least one or two potential plugs on the steering box. If there are plugs, where exactly are they? 3. Will lubricating the steering box ease steering effort without having to increase steering play, or do we need to live with more steering play? Thanks for any answers up front. Alex and Dennis Avery Augusta, County Virginia From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 08:21:14 2000 From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com To: YouTurnTheScrews@aol.com Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 07:19:26 -0700 Subject: Re: a couple Questions Just taking a stab at this, but how about the 5-speed that comes on the 2000? And who needs power steering on a car that weighs 2, 000 pounds? Gary McCormick San Jose, CA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YouTurnTheScrews@aol.com wrote: > Is there a 5 speed transmission that will match up to the bellhousing of a > 1600 or 2000 roadster? Also i was wondering if they made any power steering > units for this car or aftermarket or would this need to be customized? > thanks for the info everybody > sincerely > DJ Tressler From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 08:25:51 2000 From: Alex Avery To: "Jim Plegue" , Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 10:21:49 -0400 Subject: Re: squeaks I can personally attest to the dramatic drop in squeeks once you properly lube up all of the suspension points. It wasn't hard at all and was actually kind of fun--cleaning off two decades of crud off zirc fittings (grease nipples for the more simple folk) to find shiny, new-looking fittings underneath is pleasing. Go ahead and jam as grease into these fittings until it starts oozing out from around the grease gun or out broken grease seals around suspension joints. Then wipe excess off. Before we did this, we thought we needed half of the suspension rebuilt. Now the car doesn't squeek--at all! The ride is much improved to say the least. All in all, it was one of the most productive half hours we've spent on our beloved roadster. By the way, we have what appears to be an all stock setup, with what looks like all original suspension components. Enjoy Alex Avery At 09:05 PM 10/2/00 -0700, Jim Plegue wrote: >I need help with a diagnosis. My '70 roadster has so many squeaks emanating >from the suspension (front, I believe) it's almost embarrassing. Shocks? >Springs? Bushings? All of em? None of em? The car had a lube job right after >I bought it and it didn't seem to make any difference, though I'll bet it's >due for one again. I'm told the car has newer front shocks and has been >lowered two inches in front. Anyone ever face a similar squeaky fate? >Should I buy a gallon of WD40? > >Jim >Berkeley >70 Roadster > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 08:39:31 2000 From: SPL311RDST@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 10:37:29 EDT Subject: my new car - brain teaser So here are the only two pictures of the newest addition to the stables: anyone care to see if they can figure out what it is??? http://members.aol.com/astonm/newcar.html hint: not the "F" word the prize: knowing you spend way too much thought on odd little cars Laurie :-) 70 SPL311 69 SRL311 Chandler, AZ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 08:57:24 2000 From: Todd Greenwalt To: SPL311RDST@aol.com Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 07:54:17 -0700 Subject: Re: my new car - brain teaser looks like a honda 800. do you want to sell it? SPL311RDST@aol.com wrote: > > So here are the only two pictures of the newest addition to the stables: > anyone care to see if they can figure out what it is??? > > http://members.aol.com/astonm/newcar.html > > hint: not the "F" word > > the prize: knowing you spend way too much thought on odd little cars > > Laurie :-) > 70 SPL311 > 69 SRL311 > Chandler, AZ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 08:58:06 2000 From: "Robin Krause" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 14:56:15 GMT Subject: Re: squeaks My car squeaked too. I went to a full service Ma and Pa gas station and had them lube it. While it was up on the rack and one guy was lubing and counting the fittings, another guy walked underneath with me and we talked about what needed to be done to the car. . .checking out leaks and all the "stuff" you find when you can really get a good look under the car. It was $18 for lube and oil, and a very productive 1/2 hour+ of free advice. I will take it back to them for some of the work, because they're willing to let me watch. Robin Krause 68 1600 Washington _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 09:28:12 2000 From: Alex Avery To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 11:23:51 -0400 Subject: How to Unsubscribe an email address? Both my father and I are on the roadster email list, but the volume of messages is driving my father crazy (he checks email infrequently, so when he does check, 600 messages are from the roadster list!). Since I'm the one actively monitoring the roadster info, how do we get his email address removed from the list? If it is possible to do this immediately, his email address is: davery@rica.net Thanks Alex From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 09:41:42 2000 From: Marc Tyler To: , "Roadster list" Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 10:45:47 -0500 Subject: Re: my new car - brain teaser SPL311RDST@aol.com wrote >So here are the only two pictures of the newest addition to the stables: >anyone care to see if they can figure out what it is??? > >http://members.aol.com/astonm/newcar.html > >hint: not the "F" word > >the prize: knowing you spend way too much thought on odd little cars > >Laurie :-) >70 SPL311 >69 SRL311 >Chandler, AZ Is it a Honda S600? -Marc T ========================================================================== Marc Tyler TDROC 1970 1600 #SPL311-31016 1965 L-320 #L320 013642 (the misspent ute) http://datsun_marc.tripod.com/cgi-bin/Datsun_homepage.html Sisterdale TX From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 11:27:49 2000 From: "David A. Fox" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 13:27:03 EDT Subject: Re: my new car - brain teaser Is it a Sunbeam ? BS&CW, DAFox ----Original Message Follows---- From: Marc Tyler Reply-To: Marc Tyler To: , "Roadster list" Subject: Re: my new car - brain teaser Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 10:45:47 -0500 SPL311RDST@aol.com wrote >So here are the only two pictures of the newest addition to the stables: >anyone care to see if they can figure out what it is??? > >http://members.aol.com/astonm/newcar.html > >hint: not the "F" word > >the prize: knowing you spend way too much thought on odd little cars > >Laurie :-) >70 SPL311 >69 SRL311 >Chandler, AZ Is it a Honda S600? -Marc T ========================================================================== Marc Tyler TDROC 1970 1600 #SPL311-31016 1965 L-320 #L320 013642 (the misspent ute) http://datsun_marc.tripod.com/cgi-bin/Datsun_homepage.html Sisterdale TX _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 11:35:33 2000 From: YouTurnTheScrews@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 13:34:54 EDT Subject: the 2 hour roadster I was looking for a roadster for a long long time and finally i found one here in ohio that was worth paying for ..the price ofthe vehical was a hundred dollars in running condition with little rust and a new top! I drove for 5 hours to retrieve the car the day after it went up for sale. I got there test drove the car and then purchased it because it was in real good shape ..especially for 100 dollars! I was driving the car home and it started to over heat. I pulled over to the side on the middle of a 4 lane highway and aided to my cars becking need for water. I then continued on my way. Again about 2 miles down the road the car was again trying to tell me that it was hot as noted by the cockpit filling with smoke and that ever so delightfull waffles and mapel syrup smell (antifreeze) I pulled oover once again and popped its ever so stylish foreign hood to discover antifreeze spraying like the mouths of a drunken fat guy in heat staring at a beautiful naked blonde. I mad a drastic and incredably insane dash accross 4 lanes of heavy cleveland traffic to the nearest gas station exit where i parked my car for a nap. Searching for a mechanic was rough ...all of the places i called upon including the stations mechanics have all retired for the evening. I was tipped by a pedestrian of this lovely native town of brooklyn to take the car to a grauge down the street. I pushed the car a block and a half with my fiance who was quite angry of this terrable burden to the grauge. A guy there was not a mechanic but did know a little and took the car apart noting that the water pump had frozen up! In utter panic of being 4 and a half hours from home with a work deadline of 3 and a half hours sold the car to a passing citizen (i think he was a drug dealer) for 150 dollars and scrammed with the cash ..since that day i have been searcing for the perfect roadster friend to the loss of this rare loved one. What a wonderfull car and a wonderfull 2 hours being the prowd owner of a 1968 200 datsun roadster convertable. the end (this story is based on a real life experiance) From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 12:08:59 2000 From: Alex Avery To: "David A. Fox" , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 14:05:50 -0400 Subject: Re: my new car - brain teaser Well, does Mark know what kind of car it is? We're obviously just guessing--otherwise I assume the responses would be just a bit more detailed (the question marks at the end of each submission might also be a clue--he). So, Mark, do you know what the car is and if so will you eventually reveal the answer? Just curious, Alex At 01:27 PM 10/3/00 -0400, you wrote: >Is it a Sunbeam ? > >BS&CW, >DAFox > > >----Original Message Follows---- >From: Marc Tyler >Reply-To: Marc Tyler >To: , "Roadster list" >Subject: Re: my new car - brain teaser >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 10:45:47 -0500 > >SPL311RDST@aol.com wrote > > >So here are the only two pictures of the newest addition to the stables: > >anyone care to see if they can figure out what it is??? > > > >http://members.aol.com/astonm/newcar.html > > > >hint: not the "F" word > > > >the prize: knowing you spend way too much thought on odd little cars > > > >Laurie :-) > >70 SPL311 > >69 SRL311 > >Chandler, AZ >Is it a Honda S600? > >-Marc T > >========================================================================== >Marc Tyler >TDROC >1970 1600 #SPL311-31016 >1965 L-320 #L320 013642 (the misspent ute) >http://datsun_marc.tripod.com/cgi-bin/Datsun_homepage.html >Sisterdale TXAt 01:27 PM 10/3/00 -0400, David A. Fox wrote: >Is it a Sunbeam ? From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 12:21:12 2000 From: YouTurnTheScrews@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 14:20:30 EDT Subject: brain teaser is it a triumph spitfire? From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 12:25:48 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: YouTurnTheScrews@aol.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 14:25:08 EDT Subject: Re: the 2 hour roadster In a message dated 10/3/00 10:38:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time, YouTurnTheScrews@aol.com writes: << I pulled oover once again and popped its ever so stylish foreign hood to discover antifreeze spraying like the mouths of a drunken fat guy in heat staring at a beautiful naked blonde. >> I think you are going to be a wonderful addition to this list! ;>) Hoping that you find the Roadster of your dreams. THere are a few in California if you are interested. Michael "Calspeed" Carion From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 12:26:45 2000 From: YouTurnTheScrews@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 14:26:09 EDT Subject: brain teaser answer! THE CAR IS ... a 1974 triumph tr6 convertable in restored condition has a value (near mint) of around 15,000 dollars also has a 4 speed manual transmission the tr7 came with a 5 speed and a v6 however the tr6 only has a 1.6 like our little pal the 1600 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 12:37:09 2000 From: "Robin Krause" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 18:36:21 GMT Subject: Re: brain teaser An early 60's Aston Martin _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 12:37:12 2000 From: Beamonk@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 14:36:34 EDT Subject: driveshaft bolts Does anybody have a recommendation for 2000 driveshaft bolts, size etc. I lost mine and the ones I am using have a tendency to loosen up. Thanks, john Brasfield SEROC From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 12:46:44 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 11:46:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: leaking Solex's... Hello All, The acc. pump cover on my forward solex is leaking bit.. Not drip on the frame leaking but it is damp. Thee gaskets appear to be new-undamaged. Whats wrong is is that the threads in the carbs are stripped out..well the first half of them anyways. I bought longer screws, to engage the non-stripped threads, but I still can not really tighten them down... Why would the holes be stripped out?? Is it some kinda uncommon thread that maybe the P.O. replaced with a screw that was close but not quite?? Yikes should I jsut pull the carbs..and tap the stripped holes to something slightly bigger but more common... Daniel 69 2000 SF CA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 12:50:15 2000 From: YouTurnTheScrews@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 14:49:31 EDT Subject: drug addict datsun2.0 here is an interesting predicament I purchassed a datsun 2000's engine (the 2.0) not that you werent aware of that (and pitty to the knowledge slackers who dont) And to my dismay after a most in depth rebuild of this wonderfull "big block 4 cylinder" (metaphorically speaking) It just will not start! i added a small amount of starter fluid to this beast of roaring thunder and by god the drug happy engine sprung to life! I then shut down the engine on the kill. I then turned my remote ignition to notice that it again wouldnt start ..i added more starter fluid and it again came springing to life like it never had a problem to begin with. Being the wanna be geniouse that i am i used clear tubes for the gas line to the power plant and noted that the fuel was indeed rushing to the carberator like jerry springers security guard rushing to stop the flying chair in the midst of an arial attack. I then tried again and again adding either to every single turn over and found that by golly ..thats the only way it starts! I added a bit of either to the fuel and it ran quite well but got scared by the thought of it getting addicted! is it to late???? what can i do about my drug addicted 2.0!?!?! thanks alot for all your help you will have to excuse me i get into these little deals thanks again DJ Tressler From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 13:02:59 2000 From: YouTurnTheScrews@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 14:59:39 EDT Subject: re brain teaser (aston martin inquiry) An early 60's aston martin came equiped with a rounded contour grill and a stock molded shaker hood scoop and a pentagon hood wich lifted up from the back this cars hood is square and the hood scoop is not present nor are the scares of removal ..a hole would have been left there. just a thought dj tressler From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 13:04:30 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 12:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Suddenly Mushy Front Suspension.. Hello All, Took the car to the store last night and was shocked when I went around a familiar couple of corners (street luge course). The front end was WAY mushy-bouncy unplanted feeling. I have the comp springs-swaybar and the fancy white-body KYB shocks. Now I didn't even look under the car yet but I did do the 'bounce test' the the front shocks and they do appear to bounce more than I remember..maybe.. The shocks are only about 2 yrs old could I of somehow wrecked them?? How would I of done that?? DAniel 69 2000 SF CA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 13:10:39 2000 From: RWM To: Daniel Neuman , Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 15:09:19 -0400 Subject: Re: leaking Solex's... I thought they all weeped around the acc pump gaskets.... No? - Bob Mann, '69 2000 Solex, w/weeping gasket feature Daniel Neuman wrote: > > Hello All, > The acc. pump cover on my forward solex is leaking bit.. Not drip > on the frame leaking but it is damp. Thee gaskets appear to be new-undamaged. > Whats wrong is is that the threads in the carbs are stripped out..well the > first half of them anyways. I bought longer screws, to engage the non-stripped > threads, but I still can not really tighten them down... > Why would the holes be stripped out?? Is it some kinda uncommon thread > that maybe the P.O. replaced with a screw that was close but not quite?? > Yikes should I jsut pull the carbs..and tap the stripped holes to something > slightly bigger but more common... > Daniel 69 2000 > SF CA -- R.W. Mann & Company, Inc. > Airline Industry Analysis and Consulting Port Washington, NY 11050 > tel 516-944-0900, fax 516-944-7280 mailto:info@RWMann.com > URL http://www.RWMann.com/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 13:15:10 2000 From: "Hall, Phillip" To: "'Beamonk@aol.com'" Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 14:16:10 -0500 Subject: RE: driveshaft bolts It is not the bolts - getting rubber in four gears will loosen the best of them:-) Actually I think they are 5/16 fine thread grade eight bolts. Phil SEROC -----Original Message----- From: Beamonk@aol.com [SMTP:Beamonk@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 1:37 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: driveshaft bolts Does anybody have a recommendation for 2000 driveshaft bolts, size etc. I lost mine and the ones I am using have a tendency to loosen up. Thanks, john Brasfield SEROC From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 13:18:12 2000 From: Roman Rist To: datsun roadsters Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 12:17:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: registry news Hello, Roman here. I want to thank you all for your compliments and kind words on my infant Registry site. Seems well received. since posting the site (all of 2 days), I have gotten 2 new registrations per day. This is good! that is what the site is for. since there were some questions, let me state this; THE ACTUAL REGISTRY RESULTS WILL BE POSTED ON A NEW AND IMPROVED SITE HOSTED BY MARK DENT. the basics are up, but there is a lot of work still to be done. more registrations, more pics, compilation of the information etc. hope that helps, for now check out the site, take a minute to register if you haven't, and get off list members to register. I have set up two entrance doorways; the yahoo club and the registry site http://www.geocities.com/roadsterregistry/index.html thank you, Roman Rist __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 13:39:50 2000 From: bob_wilson@agilent.com To: aavery@rica.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 13:39:09 -0600 Subject: RE: Steering box questions The steering box is full of oil, not grease. But I don't know the correct amount of "play" in the steering wheel. Bob Wilson -----Original Message----- From: Alex Avery [mailto:aavery@rica.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 7:15 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Steering box questions Hey, thanks for all of the tips we've received so far on a number of things. We just tightened up the steering via the screw on top of the steering box, but now I have a few questions: 1. We tightened the steering box until there was almost no play in the steering--about 1/2 inch play, whereas before there was ~3 inches. But this has increased steering effort enough to make us wonder if we tightened it too much. What is the rule here? 2. We looked but didn't see any zirc/grease nipples on the steering box--How does one lubricate the steering box. I'm assuming that there is a plug where a zirc fitting should go, and there appeared to be at least one or two potential plugs on the steering box. If there are plugs, where exactly are they? 3. Will lubricating the steering box ease steering effort without having to increase steering play, or do we need to live with more steering play? Thanks for any answers up front. Alex and Dennis Avery Augusta, County Virginia From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 13:52:39 2000 From: RWM To: bob_wilson@agilent.com Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 15:51:27 -0400 Subject: Re: Steering box questions Bob Wilson is correct; I have used 90W gear oil. Careful of the oil fill cover nut, it is plastic and strips out easily. 3/8" - 1/2" left-right play at the rim (stock wheel) is regarded as OK. You appear to have nipped the play in the bud, so to speak. Monitor how any further play develops from there. - Bob Mann, '69 2000 Solex bob_wilson@agilent.com wrote: > > The steering box is full of oil, not grease. But I don't know the correct > amount of "play" in the steering wheel. > > Bob Wilson > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alex Avery [mailto:aavery@rica.net] > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 7:15 AM > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: Steering box questions > > Hey, thanks for all of the tips we've received so far on a number of > things. We just tightened up the steering via the screw on top of the > steering box, but now I have a few questions: > > 1. We tightened the steering box until there was almost no play in the > steering--about 1/2 inch play, whereas before there was ~3 inches. But > this has increased steering effort enough to make us wonder if we tightened > it too much. What is the rule here? > > 2. We looked but didn't see any zirc/grease nipples on the steering > box--How does one lubricate the steering box. I'm assuming that there is a > plug where a zirc fitting should go, and there appeared to be at least one > or two potential plugs on the steering box. If there are plugs, where > exactly are they? > > 3. Will lubricating the steering box ease steering effort without having to > increase steering play, or do we need to live with more steering play? > > Thanks for any answers up front. > Alex and Dennis Avery > Augusta, County > Virginia -- R.W. Mann & Company, Inc. > Airline Industry Analysis and Consulting Port Washington, NY 11050 > tel 516-944-0900, fax 516-944-7280 mailto:info@RWMann.com > URL http://www.RWMann.com/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 14:03:06 2000 From: "Hall, Phillip" To: "'bob_wilson@agilent.com'" , aavery@rica.net, Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:05:19 -0500 Subject: RE: Steering box questions I have heard that if you pump the steering box full of grease it will help with the play - effectively tighten up the box. Does this work? My '66 box is getting loose and thought about trying this. Phil SEROC -----Original Message----- From: bob_wilson@agilent.com [SMTP:bob_wilson@agilent.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 2:39 PM To: aavery@rica.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: RE: Steering box questions The steering box is full of oil, not grease. But I don't know the correct amount of "play" in the steering wheel. Bob Wilson -----Original Message----- From: Alex Avery [mailto:aavery@rica.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 7:15 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Steering box questions Hey, thanks for all of the tips we've received so far on a number of things. We just tightened up the steering via the screw on top of the steering box, but now I have a few questions: 1. We tightened the steering box until there was almost no play in the steering--about 1/2 inch play, whereas before there was ~3 inches. But this has increased steering effort enough to make us wonder if we tightened it too much. What is the rule here? 2. We looked but didn't see any zirc/grease nipples on the steering box--How does one lubricate the steering box. I'm assuming that there is a plug where a zirc fitting should go, and there appeared to be at least one or two potential plugs on the steering box. If there are plugs, where exactly are they? 3. Will lubricating the steering box ease steering effort without having to increase steering play, or do we need to live with more steering play? Thanks for any answers up front. Alex and Dennis Avery Augusta, County Virginia From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 14:04:46 2000 From: Taylor Collins To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 13:04:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: need a little advice Hi all, I'm new to the list and already have a couple questions. Imagine that. I'm putting my '69 2000 back together(my only car after wrecking my '72 240z) and am looking for some reasonably priced, lightweight, standard or overbore size, pistons that can up my compression. Also, for the information of my machinist, what general directions should be followed when removing weight from those beefy rods? Have some patience, I'm only 17 and learning. Thanks for any and all help-Taylor __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 14:20:05 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: RWM@RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 13:19:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: leaking Solex's... Hello, I don't thinks Kens or Mikes weeps...guys??? Daniel 69 2000 > I thought they all weeped around the acc pump gaskets.... No? > > - Bob Mann, '69 2000 Solex, w/weeping gasket feature > > Daniel Neuman wrote: > > > > Hello All, > > The acc. pump cover on my forward solex is leaking bit.. Not drip > > on the frame leaking but it is damp. Thee gaskets appear to be new-undamaged. > > Whats wrong is is that the threads in the carbs are stripped out..well the > > first half of them anyways. I bought longer screws, to engage the non-stripped > > threads, but I still can not really tighten them down... > > Why would the holes be stripped out?? Is it some kinda uncommon thread > > that maybe the P.O. replaced with a screw that was close but not quite?? > > Yikes should I jsut pull the carbs..and tap the stripped holes to something > > slightly bigger but more common... > > Daniel 69 2000 > > SF CA > > -- > R.W. Mann & Company, Inc. > Airline Industry Analysis and Consulting > Port Washington, NY 11050 > tel 516-944-0900, fax 516-944-7280 > mailto:info@RWMann.com > URL http://www.RWMann.com/ > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 14:21:01 2000 From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com To: "Hall, Phillip" Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 13:19:51 -0700 Subject: Re: driveshaft bolts I'd go along with the 5/16-24 UNF threadform, but given the shock environment in which they operate, those bolts are made of something tougher than Grade 8, like A490 Alloy steel, quenched and tempered, maybe. You don't want to just head for Home Depot and pick up a handful of Grade 8's to bolt up your driveshaft! Gary McCormick San Jose, CA "Hall, Phillip" wrote: > It is not the bolts - getting rubber in four gears will loosen the best of > them:-) Actually I think they are 5/16 fine thread grade eight bolts. > > Phil > SEROC > > -----Original Message----- > From: Beamonk@aol.com [SMTP:Beamonk@aol.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 1:37 PM > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: driveshaft bolts > > Does anybody have a recommendation for 2000 driveshaft bolts, size > etc. I > lost mine and the ones I am using have a tendency to loosen up. > Thanks, > john Brasfield > SEROC From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 14:26:41 2000 From: RWM To: Daniel Neuman Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 16:25:16 -0400 Subject: Re: leaking Solex's... Come to think of it, may be that they are prone to drying out. Mine seem to stop weeping once the gaskets have been wetted, but weep when first seeing gas after a long lay-off (more than a week or so). -Bob Mann, '69 2000 Solex Daniel Neuman wrote: > > Hello, > I don't thinks Kens or Mikes weeps...guys??? > Daniel 69 2000 > > > I thought they all weeped around the acc pump gaskets.... No? > > > > - Bob Mann, '69 2000 Solex, w/weeping gasket feature > > > > Daniel Neuman wrote: > > > > > > Hello All, > > > The acc. pump cover on my forward solex is leaking bit.. Not drip > > > on the frame leaking but it is damp. Thee gaskets appear to be new-undamaged. > > > Whats wrong is is that the threads in the carbs are stripped out..well the > > > first half of them anyways. I bought longer screws, to engage the non-stripped > > > threads, but I still can not really tighten them down... > > > Why would the holes be stripped out?? Is it some kinda uncommon thread > > > that maybe the P.O. replaced with a screw that was close but not quite?? > > > Yikes should I jsut pull the carbs..and tap the stripped holes to something > > > slightly bigger but more common... > > > Daniel 69 2000 > > > SF CA > > > > -- > > R.W. Mann & Company, Inc. > Airline Industry Analysis and Consulting > > Port Washington, NY 11050 > tel 516-944-0900, fax 516-944-7280 > > mailto:info@RWMann.com > URL http://www.RWMann.com/ > > -- R.W. Mann & Company, Inc. > Airline Industry Analysis and Consulting Port Washington, NY 11050 > tel 516-944-0900, fax 516-944-7280 mailto:info@RWMann.com > URL http://www.RWMann.com/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 14:30:27 2000 From: PLETCH5@aol.com To: dneuman@stars.sfsu.edu, RWM@RWMann.com Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 16:29:10 EDT Subject: Re: leaking Solex's... I would never admit to a leaking DATSTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well,I guess I do keep a drip pan under the car. As far as the Soles seep. If you mean the jet cover it does collect moisture and dust over time,I havent noticed any seepage anywhere else on the carbs. Valve cover gasket is another story-the head has been shaved to many times. Speaking of that,has anybody thought of making a thicker valve cover gasket,it would be cheaper then buying a new head. Ken DATSTER From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 14:40:12 2000 From: "Brian St. Jacques" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 13:36:53 -0700 Subject: Engine Tuning Device Hello All, I have seen some of those fuel mixture monitors that interface to O2 sensors, and this seemed like something that might help considerably with the carb tuning. I am currently in process of designing my own, partly as a term project and partly because I plan on actually using it. I am actually adding a few more features to the device to gather a little more information for diagnostics. The unit in the car will have a bank of LEDs to indicate fuel mixture, but I am also picking up the RPMs and throttle position. I have a connection to interface to a computer and have written a program to continually graph the last 10 seconds worth of data for the fuel mixture, RPMs and throttle position. I have most of this done already, but I am doing some things with an electric motor to simulate the results so I don't have to bring a car into class. My question is this- Does anybody know of a throttle position sensor that they think may be adaptable to an SU setup? I could rig up a potentiometer with some linkage, but I figured that a real throttle position sensor would be better fit to live in an engine compartment. If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know. Brian '68 1600 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 14:44:30 2000 From: R Haug To: Alex Avery , Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 13:44:24 -0700 Subject: Re: Steering box questions Alex Avery wrote: > 1. We tightened the steering box until there was almost no play in the > steering-- But this has increased steering effort This may be to tight if there is no grease in the box. > 2. We looked but didn't see any zirc/grease nipples on the steering > box--How does one lubricate the steering box. No grease zerks. There is a plastic plug on top of the box. It either has a square drive plug in it either the size of a 3/8 or 1/2 inch drive ratchet. Unscrew it and put 90 wt. gear lube in there. Drain out the old stuff first. There should be a small plug in the side of the box unless you have a newer model. Use regular grease on the idler box on the other side of the frame. > 3. Will lubricating the steering box ease steering effort without having to > increase steering play, or do we need to live with more steering play? Wait until you put fresh gear lube in there to decide. You may have a dry box and the lube should help. Bob From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 14:47:59 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: RWM@RWMann.com Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 13:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: leaking Solex's... Hi, This could be true but in my case its only the forward carb that weeps. I have never felt the rear carb to be damp. The rear carb also had the best threads..... hey how come I cant 'get rubber' in second gear like Ken??? Daniel 69 2000 SF CA > Come to think of it, may be that they are prone to drying out. > > Mine seem to stop weeping once the gaskets have been wetted, > but weep when first seeing gas after a long lay-off > (more than a week or so). > > -Bob Mann, '69 2000 Solex > > Daniel Neuman wrote: > > > > Hello, > > I don't thinks Kens or Mikes weeps...guys??? > > Daniel 69 2000 > > > > > I thought they all weeped around the acc pump gaskets.... No? > > > > > > - Bob Mann, '69 2000 Solex, w/weeping gasket feature > > > > > > Daniel Neuman wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > The acc. pump cover on my forward solex is leaking bit.. Not drip > > > > on the frame leaking but it is damp. Thee gaskets appear to be new-undamaged. > > > > Whats wrong is is that the threads in the carbs are stripped out..well the > > > > first half of them anyways. I bought longer screws, to engage the non-stripped > > > > threads, but I still can not really tighten them down... > > > > Why would the holes be stripped out?? Is it some kinda uncommon thread > > > > that maybe the P.O. replaced with a screw that was close but not quite?? > > > > Yikes should I jsut pull the carbs..and tap the stripped holes to something > > > > slightly bigger but more common... > > > > Daniel 69 2000 > > > > SF CA > > > > > > -- > > > R.W. Mann & Company, Inc. > Airline Industry Analysis and Consulting > > > Port Washington, NY 11050 > tel 516-944-0900, fax 516-944-7280 > > > mailto:info@RWMann.com > URL http://www.RWMann.com/ > > > > > -- > R.W. Mann & Company, Inc. > Airline Industry Analysis and Consulting > Port Washington, NY 11050 > tel 516-944-0900, fax 516-944-7280 > mailto:info@RWMann.com > URL http://www.RWMann.com/ > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 14:52:22 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: brian@varatouch.com Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 13:51:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Engine Tuning Device Hello Brian, Interesting idea. Have you talked to keith about your mixture reader? He has a fairly fancy looking homemade one. Which type of O2 sensor are you using?? I have heard that the 1 wire type are useless -that the two wire type are better but really only give good readings around the ideal mixture-their range is not broad enough. Have you heard about these 5-wire sensors?? They are supposed to be able to give lots more info over a much broader range than the other...problem is I believe that they are at least twice as much as a two wire model. Daniel 69 2000 SF CA > Hello All, > > I have seen some of those fuel mixture monitors that interface to O2 > sensors, and this seemed like something that might help considerably with > the carb tuning. I am currently in process of designing my own, partly as a > term project and partly because I plan on actually using it. I am actually > adding a few more features to the device to gather a little more > information for diagnostics. The unit in the car will have a bank of LEDs > to indicate fuel mixture, but I am also picking up the RPMs and throttle > position. I have a connection to interface to a computer and have written a > program to continually graph the last 10 seconds worth of data for the fuel > mixture, RPMs and throttle position. I have most of this done already, but > I am doing some things with an electric motor to simulate the results so I > don't have to bring a car into class. > > My question is this- Does anybody know of a throttle position sensor that > they think may be adaptable to an SU setup? I could rig up a potentiometer > with some linkage, but I figured that a real throttle position sensor would > be better fit to live in an engine compartment. If anyone has any > suggestions, please let me know. > > Brian '68 1600 > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 14:53:45 2000 From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, YouTurnTheScrews@aol.com Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 13:48:29 -0700 Subject: Re: drug addict datsun2.0 Hi You, Your carbs don't suck big time. That's the problem. If you look at the throat of the carbs you'll see the piston hanging there blocking the mouth. You need to get this piston nice and loose, so it'll flap up and down like Jerry Springers fat mouth. Use a finger and lift up the piston, should be easy to do, then let it drop. Should be a nice solid thunk when it bottoms out. If not, then you need to take apart the carb and adjust the jet nozzle and needle so they align and the piston freely goes up and down. The other thing to check is the path from the fuel bowls to the carbs. They might be gunked up with snot. Lots of snot, and your engine will whimper and snort but not sing. Clean the passage with carb cleaner and an air hose, you might need to gently apply a wire to scrape out gunk. Also helps to fully open the choke. Fred ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: drug addict datsun2.0 Author: YouTurnTheScrews@aol.com Date: 10/3/2000 2:49 PM here is an interesting predicament I purchassed a datsun 2000's engine (the 2.0) not that you werent aware of that (and pitty to the knowledge slackers who dont) And to my dismay after a most in depth rebuild of this wonderfull "big block 4 cylinder" (metaphorically speaking) It just will not start! i added a small amount of starter fluid to this beast of roaring thunder and by god the drug happy engine sprung to life! I then shut down the engine on the kill. I then turned my remote ignition to notice that it again wouldnt start ..i added more starter fluid and it again came springing to life like it never had a problem to begin with. Being the wanna be geniouse that i am i used clear tubes for the gas line to the power plant and noted that the fuel was indeed rushing to the carberator like jerry springers security guard rushing to stop the flying chair in the midst of an arial attack. I then tried again and again adding either to every single turn over and found that by golly ..thats the only way it starts! I added a bit of either to the fuel and it ran quite well but got scared by the thought of it getting addicted! is it to late???? what can i do about my drug addicted 2.0!?!?! thanks alot for all your help you will have to excuse me i get into these little deals thanks again DJ Tressler From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 15:01:51 2000 From: "Brian St. Jacques" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 13:59:07 -0700 Subject: Re: Engine Tuning Device Daniel, I had planned on running the two wire...that is the self heating, right? I haven't studied up too much on the O2 sensors yet to see which will yield the results I want, but I am working with a pretty decent A to D converter with good resolution and adjustable reference, and I can also apply some signal conditioning if necessary. From what I have heard the O2 sensors are just a thermocouple. If anyone has any recommended resources, I was planning on reading up about this stuff real soon. The 5 wire sounds pretty interesting too... At 01:51 PM 10/3/2000, Daniel Neuman wrote: >Hello Brian, > Interesting idea. Have you talked to keith about your mixture reader? >He has a fairly fancy looking homemade one. Which type of O2 sensor are >you using?? I have heard that the 1 wire type are useless -that the two >wire type are better but really only give good readings around the ideal >mixture-their range is not broad enough. Have you heard about these 5-wire >sensors?? They are supposed to be able to give lots more info over a much >broader range than the other...problem is I believe that they are at least >twice as much as a two wire model. > Daniel 69 2000 > SF CA > > > Hello All, > > > > I have seen some of those fuel mixture monitors that interface to O2 > > sensors, and this seemed like something that might help considerably with > > the carb tuning. I am currently in process of designing my own, partly > as a > > term project and partly because I plan on actually using it. I am actually > > adding a few more features to the device to gather a little more > > information for diagnostics. The unit in the car will have a bank of LEDs > > to indicate fuel mixture, but I am also picking up the RPMs and throttle > > position. I have a connection to interface to a computer and have > written a > > program to continually graph the last 10 seconds worth of data for the > fuel > > mixture, RPMs and throttle position. I have most of this done already, but > > I am doing some things with an electric motor to simulate the results so I > > don't have to bring a car into class. > > > > My question is this- Does anybody know of a throttle position sensor that > > they think may be adaptable to an SU setup? I could rig up a potentiometer > > with some linkage, but I figured that a real throttle position sensor > would > > be better fit to live in an engine compartment. If anyone has any > > suggestions, please let me know. > > > > Brian '68 1600 > > > > Brian '68 1600 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 15:39:30 2000 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 17:40:54 -0400 Subject: Re: my new car - brain teaser Sure doesn't look like anything Triumph ever built or any Sunbeam I have ever seen. But it could be a Honda S600 like a few guesses made. I found a photo of a 1967 S800 and the grille is all wrong so that's out. What about a guess of an early '60s Fiat or Lancia? I wish the grille logo was easier to see in the photo. No? Well, it is dinner time here so I'm done guessing for today. Paul OROC -----Original Message----- From: SPL311RDST@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 10:43 AM Subject: my new car - brain teaser >So here are the only two pictures of the newest addition to the stables: >anyone care to see if they can figure out what it is??? > >http://members.aol.com/astonm/newcar.html > >hint: not the "F" word > >the prize: knowing you spend way too much thought on odd little cars > >Laurie :-) >70 SPL311 >69 SRL311 >Chandler, AZ > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 15:40:45 2000 From: "spencer" To: Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 14:33:56 -0700 Subject: ANOTHER Engine Tuning Device Fellow Roadsterphiles, Another "Engine Tuning Device" that's been standard operating equipment on aircraft is the EGT, or exhaust temperature guage. If I wasn't so lazy, I'd figure a way to adjust my mixure from the cab while on the road (a worm on a solid cable, rotating the adjusting nut cut with gear teeth to mesh?). The ultralight community has DUAL EGT's, with sending units, for around $100. You can buy 'em used for less. The placement of the probe (into the exhaust manifold) is somewhat critical for accurate readings, but allowances CAN be made to monitor trends. If memory serves, it's several inches away from the exhaust port and it probably wouldn't be a problem to mount it where it needs to go, I just haven't done it to mine yet. I DID, however, rig my distributor with a choke-type control so I can retard or advance it while I'm driving. I got tired of lugging it in 2nd in parking lots and at lights that just turned green as I got there and now, should the occasion arise (and my leg is too lazy to downshift), I simply reach over and retard a notch and never worry about pinging again. As I get up to speed, I advance it as I keep the footfeed in JUST at the ping point. When I settle into a cruise RPM I take comfort knowing I'm maximizing my fuel economy and getting the most from my powerplant. I was completely surprised at how critical "perfect timing" ISN'T. I've seen guys tap their distributors 1/2 degree to be sure it will start and run right and, brother, it's a waste of time! English cars have had venier controls on their distributors since there were dinosaurs...not because they like to tinker, but because they HAD to adust to the sh*tty gas they had availlable. Well, looks like I've had too much coffee again...shutting up now or I'll start in on the vacuum guage and it's virtues, about which I don't understand everything I know. Mark in Modesto pale yellow '67.5 1600 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 15:43:35 2000 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: , Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 17:44:15 -0400 Subject: Re: my new car - brain teaser Okay, one more guess while dinner cools. With those headlight/parking light openings it must be an early Honda, probably a S500 from 1962! Paul OROC -----Original Message----- From: SPL311RDST@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 10:43 AM Subject: my new car - brain teaser >So here are the only two pictures of the newest addition to the stables: >anyone care to see if they can figure out what it is??? > >http://members.aol.com/astonm/newcar.html > >hint: not the "F" word > >the prize: knowing you spend way too much thought on odd little cars > >Laurie :-) >70 SPL311 >69 SRL311 >Chandler, AZ > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 15:46:27 2000 From: To: Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 22:42:43 +0100 Subject: Fw: my new car - brain teaser At first I thought this car was one of the following ones... 1960-67 Fiat 1500 Cabriolet ...close but too mant differences 1965-70 Honda S800...headlight sorround and turn signals look familiar but the rest is nothing like it, especially the grille and rear end. 1963-65(?)Daihatsu Campagnolo Cabriolet...front end is wrong But I have come to the conclusion (99.99% certain) that it's an Innocenti 950 which is an italian bodied Austin Healy Sprite. About 1960 I believe. Must be very rare in the States. I have checked up and found some information on these cars on the Sprite and Midget Club site: http://www.mgcars.net/midgetspriteclub/sprite/spriteinno.htm Eddie England 1969 SRL311 eddie@ratdat.com pics at www.ratdat.com > > So here are the only two pictures of the newest addition to the stables: > > anyone care to see if they can figure out what it is??? > > > > http://members.aol.com/astonm/newcar.html > > > > hint: not the "F" word > > > > the prize: knowing you spend way too much thought on odd little cars > > > > Laurie :-) > > 70 SPL311 > > 69 SRL311 > > Chandler, AZ > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 15:51:31 2000 From: "Les/Dennis@CDM" To: "'Zcar List'" , 240z-club <240z-club@peak.org>, Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 14:34:41 -0700 Subject: Surfside Show Final Mailing The Annual Surfside Classic Datsun Show at Doheny Beach is fast approaching and so far we have less than 20 entries. In order to get everything ready in time for the Oct. 28th we need to get the entries in or at least confirmed. We are getting ready to send out our mailing and don't want waste any $$ on postage of those of you who are on the Lists and have access to the entry form online at http:///classicdatsun.com. If you plan on attending and have not yet sent in your entry form, please email me at surfside@classicdatsun.com so that I can at least get a count to our T-shirt and trophy guy. Our deadline for the t-shirt count is 10/18. I can accept MasterCard and Visa if you want to do it that way. Thanks, Dennis Les Cannaday Dennis Currington Classic Datsun Motorsports 345 Olive Ave Vista, CA 92083 (760) 940-6365 (208)988-4608 http://www.classicdatsun.com From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 15:54:58 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: 9laser3@bright.net Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 14:53:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: my new car - brain teaser Hello, Well judging from the URL...astonm = aston martin??? Is that too easy or what?? Daniel 69 2000 SF CA Oh, what type Aston Martin... its the old, rusty, missing lots of pieces model??? > > >So here are the only two pictures of the newest addition to the stables: > >anyone care to see if they can figure out what it is??? > > > >http://members.aol.com/astonm/newcar.html > > > >hint: not the "F" word > > > >the prize: knowing you spend way too much thought on odd little cars > > > >Laurie :-) > >70 SPL311 > >69 SRL311 > >Chandler, AZ > > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 16:11:35 2000 From: YouTurnTheScrews@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 18:10:52 EDT Subject: my new car brain teaser Im gonna have to go with you on this one eddie! This car is deffinatly a austin healey innocenti! there is no doubt in my mind at all .all body contours and parts match even the emblems ..Good call eddie DJ Tressler From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 16:12:36 2000 From: "Robin Krause" To: eddie@ratdat.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 22:11:56 GMT Subject: Re: Fw: my new car - brain teaser Great guess, Eddie! I think you nailed it! > At first I thought this car was one of the following ones... > > 1960-67 Fiat 1500 Cabriolet ...close but too mant differences > 1965-70 Honda S800...headlight sorround and turn signals look familiar >but > the rest is nothing like it, especially the grille and rear end. > 1963-65(?)Daihatsu Campagnolo Cabriolet...front end is wrong > > But I have come to the conclusion (99.99% certain) that it's an Innocenti >950 > which is an italian bodied Austin Healy Sprite. About 1960 I believe. >Must > be very rare in the States. >I have checked up and found some information on these cars on the Sprite >and >Midget Club site: >http://www.mgcars.net/midgetspriteclub/sprite/spriteinno.htm > > > Eddie > England > 1969 SRL311 > eddie@ratdat.com > pics at www.ratdat.com > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 16:35:57 2000 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: , Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 18:37:02 -0400 Subject: Re: my new car - brain teaser Great find! But did anybody else notice on the Innocenti page that the top photo showed the grille bade on the middle bar of the grill while Laurie's photo showed the badge on the top bar? Additional photos on the Innocenti page show it both ways. Different years? Or a different restoration specialist? Either way, a very unique car with an interesting history, but I'll bet it won't keep up with even a single carb 1500! Another interesting blend of British and Italian automotive history is the Triump Italia. Paul OROC BTW, hats off to Eddie for his knowledge of strange little cars! ---Original Message----- From: eddie@ratdat.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 5:51 PM Subject: Fw: my new car - brain teaser > > > > At first I thought this car was one of the following ones... > > 1960-67 Fiat 1500 Cabriolet ...close but too mant differences > 1965-70 Honda S800...headlight sorround and turn signals look familiar but > the rest is nothing like it, especially the grille and rear end. > 1963-65(?)Daihatsu Campagnolo Cabriolet...front end is wrong > > But I have come to the conclusion (99.99% certain) that it's an Innocenti >950 > which is an italian bodied Austin Healy Sprite. About 1960 I believe. Must > be very rare in the States. >I have checked up and found some information on these cars on the Sprite and >Midget Club site: >http://www.mgcars.net/midgetspriteclub/sprite/spriteinno.htm > > > Eddie > England > 1969 SRL311 > eddie@ratdat.com > pics at www.ratdat.com > >> > So here are the only two pictures of the newest addition to the stables: >> > anyone care to see if they can figure out what it is??? >> > >> > http://members.aol.com/astonm/newcar.html >> > >> > hint: not the "F" word >> > >> > the prize: knowing you spend way too much thought on odd little cars >> > >> > Laurie :-) >> > 70 SPL311 >> > 69 SRL311 >> > Chandler, AZ >> > >> > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 16:36:45 2000 From: "Rob Robinson" To: , Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 18:33:59 -0400 Subject: Re: a couple Questions > And who > needs power steering on a car that weighs 2, 000 pounds? Uhhhhh....maybe us autocrossers who like to run really really wide sticky tires? 245/45's on 15x9 wheels make for high steering effort. ;-) If it were legal in SP, I'd have done it years ago. BTW, a second generation RX7 steering rack works very nicely in a 240Z. (EM car I used to compete in) Rob Robinson CSP 67 2000 Roanoke, VA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 16:53:26 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Victor Laury" , "Jim Plegue" Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 18:48:42 -0400 Subject: Re: squeaks When greasing the suspension jack the car up and take the weight off of the suspension. I read that somewhere many years ago and it does make sense. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Victor Laury To: Jim Plegue Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 1:40 AM Subject: Re: squeaks > Jim, > > Please believe me when I tell you, "You didn't get a lube job, no matter > what the service man told you". I can be 100% sure that if you take the time > on your back and check all your lube points, You will find that half of them > still have the plugs installed and not zerk fittings. This means, these > grease points HAVE NOT been greased since Yokohama Japan! > > I was very surprized to find this was true on my roadster and have continued > to find this very thing on other roadsters I have serviced for freinds. > This is a real "I love my car" chore, and it's good for you to do. You get > to know your front suspension and monitor it's condition. It is a Messy job > but not a tough one. for less than $50.00 you can get a medium quality > grease gun, high quality grease and a box of ten 45 degree zerks and a box > of ten straight zerks and then you will be sure that you got a lube job. If > it still sqeaks after that, You will have had the opertunity to have > inspected you suspension to isolate the problem. Read Tom's post about zerk > fittings below. > > If you lived in L.A you could do it here! I'm afraid Berkley is out of my > territory! > > Victor > 70 SRL 31113136 > Los Angeles > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=123073 > SoCalROC http://www.ameri-eagle.com/datsun/ > > Tom Walter's post March 2000 (edited) > -------------------- > The 22 zerk fittings is to drive datsun roadster owners crazy finding them. > ;-) > > PER SIDE > Upper A-arm 2 > Lower A-Arm 2 > Upper ball joint 1 > lower ball joint 1 > > That is six, both sides = 12 > > Tie Rod Ends 6 > > Idler Arm Housing 1 > > Rear Hand brake linkage 1 > (pivot on rear axle) > > Inside U-joint 2 > (some U joints do > NOT have zerk fittings) > > There really are 22 zerk fittings. Happy greasing. To find the INNER tie rod > zerk fittings, you'll have to more the steering wheel back and forth. Not > uncommon to still find the little plugs on the back of the tie rod end > fittings. Remove, install zerk and grease away. Some roadsters have limited > clearance where the tie rod passes the frame, so you may need to reinsert > the little plug. > > 1/4" zerk fittings - common at autoparts stores. > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 16:54:16 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Neil Levine" , Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 18:49:40 -0400 Subject: Re: Interesting sighting Go play a horse your vibes are good! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Neil Levine To: Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 2:02 AM Subject: Interesting sighting > While channel surfing this evening, I happened on a new show "Tucker" just > at the moment the camera zoomed in on what I think was a nicely restored mid > '60's Chevy El Camino. They zoomed in on the front of the car where I could > clearly see the original California yellow on black license plate. What got > my attention was the "TQR 078" on the plate. I've got the original > California yellow on black plates on my roadster "TQR 063". What's the odds > of seeing one so close in the series (on TV yet)? Has anyone else seen other > original plates close to the ones on your roadster? > > Neil Levine > '66 1600 > SPL311-06576 > Purchased originally at Morie Sages Universal City Datsun (in the San > Fernando Valley?) I think. > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 17:07:43 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Alex Avery" , Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 19:02:55 -0400 Subject: Re: Steering box questions Alex, Yes you can overtighten the box. Because the center is worn more than the outer parts, such as when you make a sharp turn, the box will bind when turning the wheel. You can't get rid of all the play as the box is fairly worn after all these years. Try backing off a little and see what happens. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Alex Avery To: Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 10:15 AM Subject: Steering box questions > Hey, thanks for all of the tips we've received so far on a number of > things. We just tightened up the steering via the screw on top of the > steering box, but now I have a few questions: > > 1. We tightened the steering box until there was almost no play in the > steering--about 1/2 inch play, whereas before there was ~3 inches. But > this has increased steering effort enough to make us wonder if we tightened > it too much. What is the rule here? > > 2. We looked but didn't see any zirc/grease nipples on the steering > box--How does one lubricate the steering box. I'm assuming that there is a > plug where a zirc fitting should go, and there appeared to be at least one > or two potential plugs on the steering box. If there are plugs, where > exactly are they? > > 3. Will lubricating the steering box ease steering effort without having to > increase steering play, or do we need to live with more steering play? > > Thanks for any answers up front. > Alex and Dennis Avery > Augusta, County > Virginia From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 17:10:49 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: , Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 19:05:59 -0400 Subject: Re: my new car - brain teaser It's a Honda from the early to mid 60s. N'est pas? Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 10:37 AM Subject: my new car - brain teaser > So here are the only two pictures of the newest addition to the stables: > anyone care to see if they can figure out what it is??? > > http://members.aol.com/astonm/newcar.html > > hint: not the "F" word > > the prize: knowing you spend way too much thought on odd little cars > > Laurie :-) > 70 SPL311 > 69 SRL311 > Chandler, AZ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 17:34:11 2000 From: "Les/Dennis@CDM" To: "'Zcar List'" , 240z-club <240z-club@peak.org>, Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 16:16:52 -0700 Subject: Re: Surfside Show Final Mailing (again) Okay. need work on my linking: should be http://www.classicdatsun.com and mailto:dennis@classicdatsun.com Dennis :-( Les Cannaday Dennis Currington Classic Datsun Motorsports 345 Olive Ave Vista, CA 92083 (760) 940-6365 http://www.classicdatsun.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les/Dennis@CDM" To: "'Zcar List'" ; "240z-club" <240z-club@peak.org>; "Bluebird list" ; "Roadster list" Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 2:34 PM Subject: Surfside Show Final Mailing > The Annual Surfside Classic Datsun Show at Doheny Beach is fast approaching > and so far we have less than 20 entries. In order to get everything ready > in time for the Oct. 28th we need to get the entries in or at least > confirmed. We are getting ready to send out our mailing and don't want > waste any $$ on postage of those of you who are on the Lists and have access > to the entry form online at http:///classicdatsun.com. > > If you plan on attending and have not yet sent in your entry form, please > email me at surfside@classicdatsun.com so that I can at least get a count to > our T-shirt and trophy guy. Our deadline for the t-shirt count is 10/18. I > can accept MasterCard and Visa if you want to do it that way. > > > Thanks, > > Dennis > > Les Cannaday > Dennis Currington > > Classic Datsun Motorsports > 345 Olive Ave > Vista, CA 92083 > (760) 940-6365 > (208)988-4608 > http://www.classicdatsun.com > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 17:40:04 2000 From: "Victor Laury" To: Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 16:20:22 -0700 Subject: Re: my new car - brain teaser > Either way, a very unique car with an interesting history, but I'll bet it won't keep up with even a single carb 1500! It will when Laurie drops an "R" motor in! From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 17:52:50 2000 From: Davesmbox@aol.com To: 9laser3@bright.net, SPL311RDST@aol.com Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 19:52:13 EDT Subject: Re: my new car - brain teaser I would have guessed a 63 FIAT 1500 but she says its not the "F" word. DAVE From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 18:32:35 2000 From: Roman Rist To: sidney raper Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 17:32:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: book --- sidney raper wrote: In the book Datsun Roadsters Sid, where do you get this book? Roman __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 18:52:45 2000 From: "Adam Fox" To: "Brian St. Jacques" Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 11:48:54 +1000 Subject: Re: Engine Tuning Device O2 sensors. Long. There are a few different O2 sensors available. The most basic is the single wire narrowband, its non heated. Then you have the three wire narrowband, which has a heater element to bring the sensor up to operating temp quicker. Then you have the wide range(read expensive) sensors, which give you a very accurate AFR reading over a wide range. Normal sensors found in most EFI vehicles are narrowband, they are accurate around the 14.7:1 air fuel ratio, which is the ideal mixture for catalitic converters to operate(best power is made around 13:1 and for lean crusing you can go to 15:1 and up depending on the engine). The narrowband sensors become somewhat innaccurate either side of this 14.7:1 figure, however can still be used as an effective tuning device. You can just hook a digital multimeter up to one and read off the voltages, around .5 to 1v. Or as many do, build a simple circuit to give a graphical readout using LEDs. The sensors arent a thermocouple, they output a voltage in relation to the amount of oxygen left in the exhaust gas. Most sensors dont like leaded fuel, so you need to replace them after a certain amount of exposure to it, youll get many hours out of one before its contaminated tho, enough to tune a car, after which it will get "lazy". They can be cleaned and tested using a small butane blow torch, after about 20 seconds of heating the output voltage will go up to about .9v on a healthy sensor. A kit has just been developed by an electronics magazine in Australia to read the wide band sensors, it uses an expensive bosch sensor and gives a numerical readout of the AFR. Go to http://203.41.157.5/jaycar/FMPro?-db=products.fp3&-format=detail.htm&-lay=cg i&-sortfield=model%20%23&Category=KITS%20-%20AUTOMOTIVE&-recid=46837&-token= 12590328&-find= to see it. It would probly cost you US guys about $2 delivered with the current exchange rate ;-) Another, supposedly better kit will be released next year by www.autospeed.com If anyone needs anymore info on these things feel free to ask..... Adam Fox ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian St. Jacques To: Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 6:36 AM Subject: Engine Tuning Device > Hello All, > > I have seen some of those fuel mixture monitors that interface to O2 > sensors, and this seemed like something that might help considerably with > the carb tuning. I am currently in process of designing my own, partly as a > term project and partly because I plan on actually using it. I am actually > adding a few more features to the device to gather a little more > information for diagnostics. The unit in the car will have a bank of LEDs > to indicate fuel mixture, but I am also picking up the RPMs and throttle > position. I have a connection to interface to a computer and have written a > program to continually graph the last 10 seconds worth of data for the fuel > mixture, RPMs and throttle position. I have most of this done already, but > I am doing some things with an electric motor to simulate the results so I > don't have to bring a car into class. > > My question is this- Does anybody know of a throttle position sensor that > they think may be adaptable to an SU setup? I could rig up a potentiometer > with some linkage, but I figured that a real throttle position sensor would > be better fit to live in an engine compartment. If anyone has any > suggestions, please let me know. > > Brian '68 1600 > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 19:00:20 2000 From: "Adam Fox" To: "spencer" , Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 11:56:56 +1000 Subject: Re: ANOTHER Engine Tuning Device > I was completely surprised at how critical "perfect timing" ISN'T. I've > seen guys tap their distributors 1/2 degree to be sure it will start and run > right and, brother, it's a waste of time! Id have to dissagree on that one mark, i have an adjustable EFI setup on my 510 turbo, and you can often feel it take off a degree of timing as the intake temp comes up... just my opinion tho.... Adam Fox From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 19:11:56 2000 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: brian@varatouch.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 21:11:09 EDT Subject: Re: Engine Tuning Device Sounds like a great project. The throttle position sensor in the modern fuel injection car is a pot, and not always that good of one or well sealed. A good quality pot from one of the good electronics suppliers (not radio shack) should work fine. Try www.digikey.com . I used the Bosh three wire O2 sensor that came on later Nissans. The dynamic range is rather narrow, most of the time it tells you either rich or lean but is still very useful. Also it can lie to you, if you are running really rich (and I mean really really rich) it will say you are running lean. You might also look at a MAP sensor (manifold absolute pressure) keith From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 20:00:50 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: dneuman@stars.sfsu.edu, RWM@RWMann.com Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 21:59:31 EDT Subject: Re: leaking Solex's... In a message dated 10/3/00 1:50:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dneuman@stars.sfsu.edu writes: << hey how come I cant 'get rubber' in second gear like Ken??? >> Rubber in second...? How about rubber in third? Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 20:20:07 2000 From: SPL311RDST@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 22:19:22 EDT Subject: mystery car: Sid & Eddie win ! Sid Wins !!!!- first correct guess. Sid guessed it first, but wasn't terribly sure, and Eddie got it dead-on. Eddie, being in the UK, may have been at an advantage over the rest of us It's my 1965 Innocenti Spyder. Basically it's a Spridget with an Italian re-body job. They made these from ~1961-70, also making a coupe version from ~'67-70. I've been told the total #'s were 17,500, of which only 50 have been traced living outside of Italy. Innocenti was also famous for their re-do of the Mini, and up until the early '90's produced Yugos under their badge! The same company made the Lambretta scooter. Now we're all just a little bit smarter on yet another odd little bit of automotive history. Yes, eventually the car will be up for sale, (unless I get *really attached* to it). It oughta make an awsome little vintage racer - Spridget parts are available just about anywhere. The Honda guesses were pretty good- it's probably the most well-known of the weird little cars, and any Aston Martin references on the URL, well,,,, that has to do with my little problem with really needing one some day ( This is the same girl who parked herself in the middle of the A/M display at the Vancouver BC ABFM for several hours..."just because") (side note: the new A/M "Vanquish" - is that headache medicine or toilet cleaner????- not sure I can cope w/the name) Laurie :-) 70 SPL311 69 SRL311 + an INNOCENTI ! Chandler, AZ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 20:21:52 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: ristguitars@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 22:21:25 EDT Subject: Re: book Roman, I got my copy from Rallye. The book is printed by Brooklands. The URL for the pic of the book on Rallye's website is http://www.datsunroadster.com/PIC_PAGES/NEW_PARTS_PIC_PAGES/999-94.htm It is a collection of road tests. Quite interesting reading. Sid >From: Roman Rist >Reply-To: Roman Rist >To: sidney raper >CC: datsun roadsters >Subject: book >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 17:32:04 -0700 (PDT) > >--- sidney raper wrote: >In the book Datsun Roadsters Sid, where do you get this book? > > >Roman > >__________________________________________________ >Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! >http://photos.yahoo.com/ _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 3 20:38:46 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: SPL311RDST@aol.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 22:38:18 EDT Subject: Re: mystery car: Sid & Eddie win ! I must admit that I fell in love with a forlorn Innocenti S that was abandoned beside a gas station in Alexandria,Virginia when I was in High School. I was heart broken to see it disappeared. It is the only one that I have ever seen and the years have fogged the memory (hence the uncertain answer - kinda like seeing an old girlfriend - they never look quite the same after all those years) I suspect that this one became a campbell's soup can or something along that order as the tinworm had taken it's toll already. Sid P.S. What's my prize? A ride in it? ;-> >From: SPL311RDST@aol.com >Reply-To: SPL311RDST@aol.com >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: mystery car: Sid & Eddie win ! >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 22:19:22 EDT > >Sid Wins !!!!- first correct guess. >Sid guessed it first, but wasn't terribly sure, and Eddie got it dead-on. >Eddie, being in the UK, may have been at an advantage over the rest of us > > >It's my 1965 Innocenti Spyder. Basically it's a Spridget with an Italian >re-body job. They made these from ~1961-70, also making a coupe version >from >~'67-70. I've been told the total #'s were 17,500, of which only 50 have >been >traced living outside of Italy. > >Innocenti was also famous for their re-do of the Mini, and up until the >early >'90's produced Yugos under their badge! The same company made the Lambretta >scooter. > >Now we're all just a little bit smarter on yet another odd little bit of >automotive history. > >Yes, eventually the car will be up for sale, (unless I get *really >attached* >to it). It oughta make an awsome little vintage racer - Spridget parts >are >available just about anywhere. > >The Honda guesses were pretty good- it's probably the most well-known of >the >weird little cars, and any Aston Martin references on the URL, well,,,, >that >has to do with my little problem with really needing one some day ( >This >is the same girl who parked herself in the middle of the A/M display at the >Vancouver BC ABFM for several hours..."just because") (side note: the new >A/M >"Vanquish" - is that headache medicine or toilet cleaner????- not sure I >can >cope w/the name) > > >Laurie :-) >70 SPL311 >69 SRL311 + an INNOCENTI ! >Chandler, AZ _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 4 06:24:38 2000 From: To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 07:24:03 -0500 Subject: Oil Leak by Dipstick & Others I have a pretty consistent nagging oil leak that looks like it is coming from the spot where the dipstick tube goes into the block. Is this possible? Can I pull it out somehow and put some gasket goop around it? Oh yeah, also a leaky timing cover, rear seal, and still a leaky differential cover even though I replaced the seal a few weeks ago. Argghhh.... Chris Brucciani 1968 2000 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 4 07:22:25 2000 From: Davesmbox@aol.com To: RiedelD@pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 09:21:33 EDT Subject: Re: 2000 dimensions and garage thoughts If you want to build just a shed with a slab on grade floor that's one thing. If you plan on enclosing it that's a different story. Up in BC you will need full footings if you plan on enclosing it or the structure will move with the frosts. There will be certain somewhat fixed costs. Going to a 24x24 foot garage will not cost twice of what a 12x24 would cost. Garages don't break down in square foot costs the same a house would. For example, you will pay the excavator for the day to dig either size. The same with the form guy. Materials would be double but labor won't be. The concrete for the slab would be double but not the finishing. Figure out what you really want then cut costs by doing things yourself. Few people can finish concrete,alot of people can wood frame, most people can shingle a roof. Ask friends to help out. Have a garage party. Good luck. DAVE From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 4 08:59:01 2000 From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com To: Rob Robinson , Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 07:58:33 -0700 Subject: Re: a couple Questions Good point - I hadn't thought about that, but... if it's not legal?! Gary McCormick San Jose, CA Rob Robinson wrote: > > And who > > needs power steering on a car that weighs 2, 000 pounds? > > Uhhhhh....maybe us autocrossers who like to run really really wide sticky > tires? 245/45's on 15x9 wheels make for high steering effort. ;-) If it > were legal in SP, I'd have done it years ago. BTW, a second generation RX7 > steering rack works very nicely in a 240Z. (EM car I used to compete in) > > Rob Robinson > CSP 67 2000 > Roanoke, VA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 4 09:06:51 2000 From: "Andrew Murphy" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 08:06:29 PDT Subject: 67 2000 looking pretty good in CA Hello All, I usually keep my eyes open for a 67 2000 that comes available for sale. Usually they are in either poor or so-so shape or they are restored and out of the reach of the average budget. I found a car for sale in Marina Del Rey (Near Los Angeles) for sale by a dealership that specializes in classic cars. I am going to go see this car this weekend. It looks to be in pretty good shape. I am wondering if it is the same car the guy from Alaska had for sale. I think it is. I will have a look and let the list know. For 7500.00 it is not our of the range of the average buyer. I will let you know. Andrew Murphy 67 2000 Solex SoCalROC http://www.hemmings.com/dealers/getphotos.cfm?DEALERLISTINGID=12289&dealer=41&src=1&CLICKSRC=classified%5Fdealer%3A%20Chequered%20Flag%20International _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 4 09:38:39 2000 From: "Hall, Phillip" To: "Roadsters (E-mail)" Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 10:40:44 -0500 Subject: FW: need a little advice Hey all - The forwarded email is from our new Roadster friend in Atlanta GA. My advice would be to build the motor stock with SU's. I have in the past polished the rods, but this is for more strength and not to lose weight. I would leave the rods as-is. I think Taylor is looking for a fast revving motor and lighting the flywheel is out of my knowledge/experience base. The Bob Sharp racing manual at Datsun.org has flywheel lightening tricks. Taylor would appreciate any ideas on this. Thanks Phil SEROC -----Original Message----- From: Taylor Collins [SMTP:tyco1983@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 4:08 PM To: Hall, Phillip Subject: RE: need a little advice Hey Phil, I'm wanting to set this 2000 up for low end performance b/c my last car(z), was rigged up for all out top end. I talked to my datsun guy, and told him I wanted max low end performance with his porting and polishing job, a low end cam, and I'm planning on lightening the flywheel a great bit. If you have any tips on tuning this motor for low end performance, I'd love to hear it. Tell me a little more about the rods, I mean, I'd like to take some of the weight off, maybe just a little, and plop some light pistons in. Any help is appreciated-Taylor __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 4 13:00:18 2000 From: "Andrew Murphy" To: solex67@hotmail.com Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 11:59:25 PDT Subject: Re: 67 2000 looking pretty good in CA Well, It turns out someone bought it already? Anyone know who or where it went? Andrew Murphy SoCalROC >From: "Andrew Murphy" >Reply-To: "Andrew Murphy" >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: 67 2000 looking pretty good in CA >Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 08:06:29 PDT > >Hello All, > >I usually keep my eyes open for a 67 2000 that comes available for sale. >Usually they are in either poor or so-so shape or they are restored and out >of the reach of the average budget. > >I found a car for sale in Marina Del Rey (Near Los Angeles) for sale by a >dealership that specializes in classic cars. I am going to go see this car >this weekend. It looks to be in pretty good shape. I am wondering if it is >the same car the guy from Alaska had for sale. I think it is. I will have a >look and let the list know. For 7500.00 it is not our of the range of the >average buyer. > >I will let you know. > > >Andrew Murphy >67 2000 Solex >SoCalROC > >http://www.hemmings.com/dealers/getphotos.cfm?DEALERLISTINGID=12289&dealer=41&src=1&CLICKSRC=classified%5Fdealer%3A%20Chequered%20Flag%20International >_________________________________________________________________________ > > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 4 14:30:54 2000 From: "Terry and Donna Cost" To: "Datsun Roadsters" Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 15:23:17 -0500 Subject: mystery car That mystery car looks a lot like an old Honda. I wish we had a picture of the engine or drivetrain. We had several postings a few months back aboout the 600's and the 800's, and they are in the archives, along with a few pictures, if I remember correctly. The gauges look intact, and if the tachometer reads 12,000 RPM or some such number, I'd bet it's the Honda. Leisure Suit Terry From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 4 15:07:22 2000 From: RoadsteRob@aol.com To: spl310@hotmail.com Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 17:06:18 EDT Subject: Lou or Joe?? In a message dated 10/3/00 4:39:50 AM GMT Daylight Time, spl310@hotmail.com writes: << This brings to mind a question. In the book Datsun Roadsters there is a road test of a 67 2000 in which Lou Mondello is referenced. It states that he was developing a twin cam head for a roadster. Does anyone know anything about what became of it? Sid >> Sid, wasn't it California's favo(u)rite cam specialist Joe Mondello, not Australia's favourite roadster engineer, Lou?? Rob The Classic Fairlady Roadster Register From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 4 15:18:33 2000 From: Magic1910@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 17:17:16 EDT Subject: Mystery car/Import ID book I flipped through the Imported Car Spotters Guide by T Burness and couldn't find the mystery car. Of course, I then realized it covered imported cars but not foreign cars. Since there are some many really cool foreign cars that were never officially imported to the US, can anyone recommend a good anthology type book for foreign cars? TIA, Greg Morrison SRL31100005 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 4 15:39:05 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: RoadsteRob@aol.com Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 17:38:29 EDT Subject: Re: Lou or Joe?? OOPS!! I stand corrected. It was JOE that was referenced. Thanks for the correction Rob. Sid >From: RoadsteRob@aol.com >To: spl310@hotmail.com >CC: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Lou or Joe?? >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 17:06:18 EDT > >In a message dated 10/3/00 4:39:50 AM GMT Daylight Time, spl310@hotmail.com >writes: > ><< This brings to mind a question. In the book Datsun Roadsters there is a > road test of a 67 2000 in which Lou Mondello is referenced. It states >that > he was developing a twin cam head for a roadster. Does anyone know >anything > about what became of it? > > Sid > >> > >Sid, wasn't it California's favo(u)rite cam specialist Joe Mondello, not >Australia's favourite roadster engineer, Lou?? > >Rob >The Classic Fairlady Roadster >Register _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 4 16:01:57 2000 From: "Patrick J. Horne" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 17:01:37 -0500 Subject: looking for an old, torn top I need to find a top for a 65-67.5 roadster to be taken apart and used as a pattern to make a new top. It can be torn up and not all there, as long as most of it is intact. Anyone have one that they can spare? Peace, Pat -- - Support Habitat for Humanity, A "hand up", not a "hand out" - Pat Horne, Network Manager, Shop Supervisor, Future planner CS Dept, University of Texas, Austin, Tx. 78712 USA voice (512)471-9517, fax (512)471-8885 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 4 16:21:44 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: , Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 18:16:09 -0400 Subject: Re: mystery car: Sid & Eddie win ! Fast looks, slow moves! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 10:19 PM Subject: mystery car: Sid & Eddie win ! > Sid Wins !!!!- first correct guess. > Sid guessed it first, but wasn't terribly sure, and Eddie got it dead-on. > Eddie, being in the UK, may have been at an advantage over the rest of us > > It's my 1965 Innocenti Spyder. Basically it's a Spridget with an Italian > re-body job. They made these from ~1961-70, also making a coupe version from > ~'67-70. I've been told the total #'s were 17,500, of which only 50 have been > traced living outside of Italy. > > Innocenti was also famous for their re-do of the Mini, and up until the early > '90's produced Yugos under their badge! The same company made the Lambretta > scooter. > > Now we're all just a little bit smarter on yet another odd little bit of > automotive history. > > Yes, eventually the car will be up for sale, (unless I get *really attached* > to it). It oughta make an awsome little vintage racer - Spridget parts are > available just about anywhere. > > The Honda guesses were pretty good- it's probably the most well-known of the > weird little cars, and any Aston Martin references on the URL, well,,,, that > has to do with my little problem with really needing one some day This > is the same girl who parked herself in the middle of the A/M display at the > Vancouver BC ABFM for several hours..."just because") (side note: the new A/M > "Vanquish" - is that headache medicine or toilet cleaner????- not sure I can > cope w/the name) > > > Laurie :-) > 70 SPL311 > 69 SRL311 + an INNOCENTI ! > Chandler, AZ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 4 16:31:44 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: horne@cs.utexas.edu, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 18:31:02 EDT Subject: Re: looking for an old, torn top On a similar note, If someone has a low windshield car and they are replacing their soft top for cosmetic reasons - and the old one will still keep rain out of the car - I could sure use it to keep one of my cars from rotting away. Sid >From: "Patrick J. Horne" >Reply-To: "Patrick J. Horne" >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: looking for an old, torn top >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 17:01:37 -0500 > >I need to find a top for a 65-67.5 roadster to be taken apart and used as >a pattern to make a new top. It can be torn up and not all there, as long >as most of it is intact. Anyone have one that they can spare? > >Peace, >Pat > >-- >- Support Habitat for Humanity, A "hand up", not a "hand out" - >Pat Horne, Network Manager, Shop Supervisor, Future planner >CS Dept, University of Texas, Austin, Tx. 78712 USA >voice (512)471-9517, fax (512)471-8885 _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 4 16:43:37 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 18:43:01 EDT Subject: Starter / Compression Hello, For the past few years my starter has been acting strange. Sometimes it crnaks nice but then it started to stall when the motor has been driven for awhile and it got alittle hot. One of the things that it has done was to stall out temporarily while cranking. It sounded like it was cranking three cylinders and then the fourth it would stall or hesitate until it passed over that cylinder. Anyway, I changed the starter to a new unit and it cranks strong but it still does that stall / hesitation over one of the cylinders. What would this mean? Does it have something to do with compression? Currently, my Roadster is running nice and strong. No problems at all with the motor. Any ideas? Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 4 16:54:51 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 18:50:02 -0400 Subject: 4 Speed rear tranny seal Anyone know where I can get a new one? It's no longer listed by Datsun, excuse me, Nissan. Mike From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 4 16:56:16 2000 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 18:57:11 -0400 Subject: Time to change the air filter! Why is it my roadster gets new oil and filters every spring but I suddenly realized on vacation last week that my '98 S10 had 55,000 miles on it and still had the factory air cleaner in it? Yuck! The air box was full of acorns, half eaten, thanks to all of the chipmunks that live under the front porch. And the air filter itself was at best 40% open. I averaged almost 32 MPG on the trip last week. I might have topped 35 with the new filter. Think about your other vehicles sometimes too. Paul OROC Roadster content: Got my brand new pre-smog distributor yesterday from CDM. Looks too nice to put under the hood but the engine analyzer went nuts over 3000 RPMs when Chris wired it up to my 1600. While a smog distributor can be rebuilt to pre-smog specs for under $25 in parts, I think I had a bit of a wobble in the shaft. So when Dennis said they had brand new 7.5 distributors in stock at just a great price, I told my wife, .... well, ... I asked my wife if, .... okay, I BEGGED my wife for an early Christmas present (after I told CDM to ship one my way!). From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 4 16:57:35 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 18:52:57 -0400 Subject: Welded 5th gear for sale I bought a welded gear and didn't need it as my tranny had a splined gear but I was too blind to see it. $30 plus shipping. Nice to have so you don't have to wait and forget how you reassemble the tranny. Mike From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 4 17:07:02 2000 From: Marc Tyler To: "datsunmike" , , Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 18:12:40 -0500 Subject: Re: mystery car: Sid & Eddie win ! datsunmike wrote >Fast looks, slow moves! Maybe, there's a little red Sprite (with a mazda powerplant) in these parts that's a rocket! -Marc From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 4 17:15:01 2000 From: "Stephen McCartney" To: ristguitars@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 23:14:37 GMT Subject: Re: book He's referring to the book published by Brooklands: "Datsun Roadsters 1962-1971". It's a compilation of period (or close to) articles on the Datsun Roadster. They do a whole heap of these for various vehicles. It's an excellent resource, with articles from US, Australia, UK, and South Africa. Interesting reading. My info on the inside cover mentions: Motorbooks International, Osceola, Wisconsin 54020 Tel: 715 294 3345 fax: 715 294 4448 I've seen Brooklands books in all kinds of bookshops (including Borders) here, but very rarely do they have the Datsun Roadster book, often you'll find the one on the Z cars. Still, if they've got some of the series, they'd surely be able to order one for you. >From: Roman Rist >Reply-To: Roman Rist >To: sidney raper >CC: datsun roadsters >Subject: book >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 17:32:04 -0700 (PDT) > >--- sidney raper wrote: >In the book Datsun Roadsters Sid, where do you get this book? > > >Roman > >__________________________________________________ >Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! >http://photos.yahoo.com/ _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 4 17:18:19 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: , Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 19:13:40 -0400 Subject: Re: Starter / Compression Cal, Is your battery good? Cables are clean? Have good grounds? Shear/crush some teeth on the flywheel? BTW, do you start it with the clutch depressed? I read that it is a good idea and makes it easier to crank over. My starter sometimes wouldn't kick over when hot and it was because my battery was dying and not putting out full voltage. Hot starters require more juice. Just some thoughts. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 6:43 PM Subject: Starter / Compression > Hello, > > For the past few years my starter has been acting strange. Sometimes it > crnaks nice but then it started to stall when the motor has been driven for > awhile and it got alittle hot. One of the things that it has done was to > stall out temporarily while cranking. It sounded like it was cranking three > cylinders and then the fourth it would stall or hesitate until it passed over > that cylinder. > > Anyway, I changed the starter to a new unit and it cranks strong but it still > does that stall / hesitation over one of the cylinders. What would this > mean? Does it have something to do with compression? > > Currently, my Roadster is running nice and strong. No problems at all with > the motor. > > Any ideas? > > Calspeed > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 4 17:20:53 2000 From: PLETCH5@aol.com To: CalSpeed@aol.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 19:20:14 EDT Subject: Re: Starter / Compression It must be running strong since you get 3rd gear rubber. Ken DATSTER From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 4 17:34:26 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: shifty@well.com, kigoe@lkeeco.com, Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us, Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 18:58:50 EDT Subject: O/T BADROC-BBQ Hello, This message would concern those attending the BADROC BBQ or thinking about attending the BADROC BBQ this coming Sunday the 8th. I went to Golden Gate Park this afternoon to scope out a BBQ pit and table for our get together. Well, it seems that this new location for the show is huge. At least fifty percent larger than last year. But there are only 6 BBQ Pits and about 10 tables. This is a huge problem as there will be over five hundred cars in attendance. Well, I scoped out a nice spot for us but there is a chance that it will be taken prior to my arrival. It is going to be very difficult to get a table. And if I do get a table it may be difficult to hold if a group of cars arrive and they want to take it over from me and my Fairlady. I am hoping that there will be someone who can help me block a table early in the morning. As I mentioned, it can get very competitive out there. ;>0 Just in case we dont get a BBQ I will bring a propane BBQ'r. Does anyone have a small portable coal "Weber" type BBQ'r they can bring along? Btw... looks like we are in for good weather that day. Michael "Calspeed" Carion From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 4 18:08:17 2000 From: "Ryan, Richard" To: "'CalSpeed@aol.com'" , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 17:09:06 -0700 Subject: RE: Starter / Compression It sounds like a problem I had with the Z. (God forbid) leaky head gasket and water in one cylinder. But if it runs well and you are not putting water in it this is probably not the reason. Let it cool after a hard, hot run, pull the plugs, roll it on the starter and hope water doesn't come out a plug hole. Dick Ryan ex. 24022 (650)312-4022 Risk Management Dept. SM 2000/2 FAX (650)312-5830 -----Original Message----- From: CalSpeed@aol.com [mailto:CalSpeed@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 3:43 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Starter / Compression Hello, For the past few years my starter has been acting strange. Sometimes it crnaks nice but then it started to stall when the motor has been driven for awhile and it got alittle hot. One of the things that it has done was to stall out temporarily while cranking. It sounded like it was cranking three cylinders and then the fourth it would stall or hesitate until it passed over that cylinder. Anyway, I changed the starter to a new unit and it cranks strong but it still does that stall / hesitation over one of the cylinders. What would this mean? Does it have something to do with compression? Currently, my Roadster is running nice and strong. No problems at all with the motor. Any ideas? Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 4 18:57:38 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: CalSpeed@aol.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 20:56:58 EDT Subject: Re: Starter / Compression CalSpeed, I had a similar problem with an old Mustang that I drove. It was the timing being too far advanced that caused the symptoms that you describe. Sid >From: CalSpeed@aol.com >Reply-To: CalSpeed@aol.com >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Starter / Compression >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 18:43:01 EDT > >Hello, > >For the past few years my starter has been acting strange. Sometimes it >crnaks nice but then it started to stall when the motor has been driven for >awhile and it got alittle hot. One of the things that it has done was to >stall out temporarily while cranking. It sounded like it was cranking >three >cylinders and then the fourth it would stall or hesitate until it passed >over >that cylinder. > >Anyway, I changed the starter to a new unit and it cranks strong but it >still >does that stall / hesitation over one of the cylinders. What would this >mean? Does it have something to do with compression? > >Currently, my Roadster is running nice and strong. No problems at all with >the motor. > >Any ideas? > >Calspeed > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 4 19:22:31 2000 From: Dat2000srl@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 21:21:48 EDT Subject: Re: Starter / Compression I know this sounds like a dumb reply, But you didn't mention replacing the battery. I had the same problem a week ago when reviving my roadster to life, I used jumper cables, but had those symptoms, I put a new battery in and BINGO. started normally. Larry From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 4 19:46:54 2000 From: Pamela Pepoy To: "Patrick J. Horne" Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 18:54:31 -0700 Subject: Re: looking for an old, torn top Pat, I have one that has been severly cooked by the Arizona Sun. You are welcome to it. If you want it you can have it for the cost of shipping. Guy, 67.5 SPL Tempe, AZ "Patrick J. Horne" wrote: > I need to find a top for a 65-67.5 roadster to be taken apart and used as > a pattern to make a new top. It can be torn up and not all there, as long > as most of it is intact. Anyone have one that they can spare? > > Peace, > Pat > > -- > - Support Habitat for Humanity, A "hand up", not a "hand out" - > Pat Horne, Network Manager, Shop Supervisor, Future planner > CS Dept, University of Texas, Austin, Tx. 78712 USA > voice (512)471-9517, fax (512)471-8885 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 4 19:57:19 2000 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: CalSpeed@aol.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 21:56:41 EDT Subject: Re: leaking Solex's... Don't know, my puny 1600 gets rubber in second any time and sometimes in third. In a message dated 10/3/00 7:03:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, CalSpeed@aol.com writes: << << hey how come I cant 'get rubber' in second gear like Ken??? >> Rubber in second...? How about rubber in third? Calspeed >> From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 4 20:01:01 2000 From: To: Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 02:58:09 +0100 Subject: Re: book Funny this book gets mentioned now because I just recieved notification of a new edition of this one. The original book "Datsun Roadsters 1962-1971" is apparently out of print now but a new issue called "Roadster Performance" (I think) is coming out in November. It has all the articals of the original plus another 39 pages. It may already be available in the US. I'll get the infomation I was sent tomorrow (I left it at work) and let you all know the ISBN code etc. If anybody can't find a copy of the first book I can get them here still at my local motorbook shop. Eddie England 1969 SRL311 eddie@ratdat.com pics at www.ratdat.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen McCartney To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 12:14 AM Subject: Re: book > He's referring to the book published by Brooklands: "Datsun Roadsters > 1962-1971". It's a compilation of period (or close to) articles on the > Datsun Roadster. They do a whole heap of these for various vehicles. It's > an excellent resource, with articles from US, Australia, UK, and South > Africa. Interesting reading. My info on the inside cover mentions: > > Motorbooks International, Osceola, Wisconsin 54020 > Tel: 715 294 3345 fax: 715 294 4448 > > I've seen Brooklands books in all kinds of bookshops (including Borders) > here, but very rarely do they have the Datsun Roadster book, often you'll > find the one on the Z cars. Still, if they've got some of the series, > they'd surely be able to order one for you. > > > >From: Roman Rist > >Reply-To: Roman Rist > >To: sidney raper > >CC: datsun roadsters > >Subject: book > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 17:32:04 -0700 (PDT) > > > >--- sidney raper wrote: > >In the book Datsun Roadsters Sid, where do you get this book? > > > > > >Roman > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! > >http://photos.yahoo.com/ > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 4 20:43:20 2000 From: Marc Sayer To: datsunmike Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 19:42:26 -0700 Subject: Re: Starter / Compression This concept seems to have more lives than a cheap politician. I don't know where or how it got started for sure but I think it has to do with some of the older cars and trucks that used heavy gear oils in the trannys or something. Anyway it is dead wrong. No better way to load the engine than to depress the clutch. The only exception would be cold weather starts in cars with very heavy gear oil in the trans (a sure way to ruin the trans and there is no need with today's lubricants). In that case the fluid drag and friction losses in the tranny might create more drag on the crank than depressing the clutch would. When you depress the clutch you are loading the thrust washers with the full load of the clutch (0n the comp clutch that's 650 kg or about 1400 lb.) before there is any oil on the thrust faces (and before the crank has developed any gyro effect but that's a whole other thing and opinions differ on that quite a bit so lets just stick with lubrication factor). It is absolutely the worst thing you can do to your crank and thrust washers. Over the years I got so as I could identify clutch riders by the wear in the cranks and thrust washers. When you ride the clutch at idle you are loading the thrusts surfaces the same way as when starting but at least oil is being supplied to them. Do it before you crank the engine and you are pushing bare metal to bare metal and then spinning the one against the other. Yikes! Not only does it load the engine and make starting harder, it wears out the crank and thrust washers much faster. > BTW, do you start it with the clutch depressed? I read that it is a good > idea and makes it easier to crank over. -- Marc Sayer Editor/Publisher Z Car & Classic Datsun Magazine http://zcarmag.com Voice 541-726-6001 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 4 23:18:54 2000 From: "fredkatz" To: , , , Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 22:18:01 -0700 Subject: Re: O/T BADROC-BBQ If necessary I can bring my van early in the morning, and bring a foldup banquet table and my Weber grill (probably same size as yours). Heck, I have some metal folding chairs too. So don't worry, we are going to cook! Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 3:58 PM Subject: O/T BADROC-BBQ > Hello, > > This message would concern those attending the BADROC BBQ or thinking about > attending the BADROC BBQ this coming Sunday the 8th. > > I went to Golden Gate Park this afternoon to scope out a BBQ pit and table > for our get together. Well, it seems that this new location for the show is > huge. At least fifty percent larger than last year. But there are only 6 > BBQ Pits and about 10 tables. > > This is a huge problem as there will be over five hundred cars in attendance. > Well, I scoped out a nice spot for us but there is a chance that it will be > taken prior to my arrival. It is going to be very difficult to get a table. > And if I do get a table it may be difficult to hold if a group of cars arrive > and they want to take it over from me and my Fairlady. > > I am hoping that there will be someone who can help me block a table early in > the morning. As I mentioned, it can get very competitive out there. ;>0 > > Just in case we dont get a BBQ I will bring a propane BBQ'r. Does anyone > have a small portable coal "Weber" type BBQ'r they can bring along? > > Btw... looks like we are in for good weather that day. > > Michael "Calspeed" Carion > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 4 23:42:22 2000 From: Dennis Currington To: Magic1910@aol.com Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 22:41:05 -0700 Subject: Re: Mystery car/Import ID book Magic1910@aol.com wrote: > I flipped through the Imported Car Spotters Guide by T Burness and > couldn't find the mystery car. Of course, I then realized it covered > imported cars but not foreign cars. Since there are some many really cool > foreign cars that were never officially imported to the US, can anyone > recommend a good anthology type book for foreign cars? > TIA, > Greg Morrison > SRL31100005 Greg, I use the Encyclopedia of Automobiles 1888 to Present (which is 1982 in this case :-). I immediately recognized the mystery car as an Innocenti :-), as shown in the picture on pg 325 of the aforementioned book (for you lawyer types :-) The maker of the famous Lambretta scooter branched out in 1961 to include the manufacturer of automobiles under a liscencing agreement with BMC.......like what Laurie said. Dennis TIC -- Dennis Currington 1967.5 Solex 2000 San Diego http://www.Datsuns.net From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 5 00:26:23 2000 From: DemonTSi@aol.com To: fredkatz@2xtreme.net, CalSpeed@aol.com, shifty@well.com, kigoe@lkeeco.com, Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 02:20:26 EDT Subject: Re: O/T BADROC-BBQ Just wondering... but if we don't have a car to show, can we still park in the area, or will we have to park somewhere far and walk in? \/ /\ /\/ www.sr20parts.com From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 5 00:39:42 2000 From: philip erickson <69srl311@altavista.com> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: 4 Oct 2000 23:38:16 -0700 Subject: Re: Starter / Compression Assuming you have tried the usual things, Load test the battery, check the cranking amperage, ... I would look to your distributor, best to take to a local speed shop and have them put it their distributor machine. You most likely are getting uneven firing from a loose/bent/worn distributor shaft. Check your dwell, points, distributor car ... phil 67.5 high windshield Philip Erickson _______________________________________________________________________ Free Unlimited Internet Access! Try it now! http://www.zdnet.com/downloads/altavista/index.html _______________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 5 01:25:11 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: DemonTSi@aol.com, fredkatz@2xtreme.net, shifty@well.com, kigoe@lkeeco.com, Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 03:19:17 EDT Subject: Re: O/T BADROC-BBQ In a message dated 10/5/00 6:20:26 AM !!!First Boot!!!, DemonTSi writes: << Just wondering... but if we don't have a car to show, can we still park in the area, or will we have to park somewhere far and walk in? >> The show is open to all cars of 1972 and older. Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 5 01:36:54 2000 From: DemonTSi@aol.com To: CalSpeed@aol.com, fredkatz@2xtreme.net, shifty@well.com, kigoe@lkeeco.com, Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 03:25:31 EDT Subject: Re: O/T BADROC-BBQ In a message dated 10/05/2000 12:19:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time, CalSpeed writes: > The show is open to all cars of 1972 and older. Ah, that's what I mean... so if my only ride to the event was in a post-'72 car, will I have to park somewhere in the city and take a bus to the park? \/ /\ /\/ www.sr20parts.com From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 5 01:41:28 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, wai@ix.netcom.com, livseym@wellsfargo.com, Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 03:40:49 EDT Subject: Nissan Eco-Vehicle spotted in S.F. Hello, I was driving around The City and I spotted the Nissan Eco-Van concept car. I guess it isn't due to be in the market for alittle while because from what I can tell there are still many rough areas to deal with. This Eco-Van was parked outside of a house here in SF. It looks very much enviromental friendly but there are also subtle hints to its minivan past. There are also some parts used from other Nissan models but I dont really know which models they are from. I am sure the savvy among us will be able to tell. I spoke to a representative with the car and he told me that it is an emission free vehicle. That is surpasses all of the current and near future standards for a alternative fuel car. He didnt say what type of fuel it ran on but from his hints I believe that it runs on water and some other low heat producing substance. He was very vague as he seemed alittle uncomfortable talking about it. But I did sneak a picture before I talked to him and I posted it on my site. You gotta check it out. I placed the pic under the Interesting Cars Section of my Photopoint site. http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=41965&Auth=false Its so exciting to be a spy! Michael "Calspeed" Carion From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 5 08:01:16 2000 From: "Lanzarotti, Vanessa" To: "'Patrick J. Horne'" , Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 09:00:20 -0500 Subject: RE: looking for an old, torn top Pat, We got a beat-up top for the '66. Mark said it is in pretty rough shape - he's not sure it will even serve as a pattern donor, but he will look when he gets home from work. You are welcome to it. Vanessa Lanzarotti -----Original Message----- From: Patrick J. Horne [mailto:horne@cs.utexas.edu] Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 5:02 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: looking for an old, torn top I need to find a top for a 65-67.5 roadster to be taken apart and used as a pattern to make a new top. It can be torn up and not all there, as long as most of it is intact. Anyone have one that they can spare? Peace, Pat -- - Support Habitat for Humanity, A "hand up", not a "hand out" - Pat Horne, Network Manager, Shop Supervisor, Future planner CS Dept, University of Texas, Austin, Tx. 78712 USA voice (512)471-9517, fax (512)471-8885 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 5 08:27:07 2000 From: "Patrick J. Horne" To: CalSpeed@aol.com Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 09:26:46 -0500 Subject: Re: Starter / Compression Sounds like one cyl. has higher compression than the others, or there is some mechanical binding. Take out the spark plugs and pull the engine over by hand. See if there are any parts of the rotation that seem much harder than others. Remember to turn the engine through 2 revolutions so that the entire engine is turned a complete revolution. Peace, Pat -- - Support Habitat for Humanity, A "hand up", not a "hand out" - Pat Horne, Network Manager, Shop Supervisor, Future planner CS Dept, University of Texas, Austin, Tx. 78712 USA voice (512)471-9517, fax (512)471-8885 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 5 08:35:06 2000 From: Alex Avery To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 10:31:28 -0400 Subject: Sideview mirrors, are they stock? We've been wondering ever since Dennis bought this '69 last year whether the sideview mirrors, mounted on the middle of the front fenders, are a stock Datsun product or if they were aftermarket mirrors or mirrors adapted from another car entirely. Does anyone have any clue? You can see the car and mirrors at the following web address or at Roman Rist's roadster registry site. (Note: the photo is a 1.2mb file, but I just hate grainy, fuzzy pics, so I loaded the big pic files) http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/alex280zguy?e&.intl=us&.flabel=fld2&.from=d&.pind ex=2&start=1&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/alex280zguy%3fd%26.f label=fld2%26.intl=us%26.src=ph Thanks for any clues as to the origins of these very cool looking side mirrors. Also, they need rechroming, but I'm concerned about how to get the mirror glass out and back in without damaging them. Any ideas? I was thinking that instead of worrying about keeping the original glass and having to bend the metal rim that holds the mirror glass in, I'd just break the glass to remove it so as not to damage the metal and then to have new mirror glass cut slightly smaller than the original opening so that the glass could be glued in with silicone without having to bend any metal. Sound good, or is there a better way. Alex Avery From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 5 09:07:35 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: aavery@rica.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 11:06:35 EDT Subject: Re: Sideview mirrors, are they stock? Alex, Those look like stock mirrors for the Japanese home market car. They may have been retrofitted by a PO. Also, the aerial is on the wrong side. I also see that you have front marker lights, but no rear lights - that tells me that the car may have been a home market car as well. But the LHD makes that unlikely. Hmmmm. I wonder where it originated. Did you buy it from a Soldier? Either way, the car looks great! By the way, where do you live in VA? Sid >From: Alex Avery >Reply-To: Alex Avery >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Sideview mirrors, are they stock? >Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 10:31:28 -0400 > >We've been wondering ever since Dennis bought this '69 last year whether >the sideview mirrors, mounted on the middle of the front fenders, are a >stock Datsun product or if they were aftermarket mirrors or mirrors adapted >from another car entirely. > >Does anyone have any clue? You can see the car and mirrors at the >following web address or at Roman Rist's roadster registry site. (Note: >the photo is a 1.2mb file, but I just hate grainy, fuzzy pics, so I loaded >the big pic files) > >http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/alex280zguy?e&.intl=us&.flabel=fld2&.from=d&.pind >ex=2&start=1&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/alex280zguy%3fd%26.f >label=fld2%26.intl=us%26.src=ph > >Thanks for any clues as to the origins of these very cool looking side >mirrors. > >Also, they need rechroming, but I'm concerned about how to get the mirror >glass out and back in without damaging them. Any ideas? I was thinking >that instead of worrying about keeping the original glass and having to >bend the metal rim that holds the mirror glass in, I'd just break the glass >to remove it so as not to damage the metal and then to have new mirror >glass cut slightly smaller than the original opening so that the glass >could be glued in with silicone without having to bend any metal. Sound >good, or is there a better way. > >Alex Avery _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 5 09:15:41 2000 From: "Kyle Hagemann" To: , , , Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 08:10:58 -0700 Subject: Re: O/T BADROC-BBQ > In a message dated 10/05/2000 12:19:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time, CalSpeed > writes: > > > The show is open to all cars of 1972 and older. > > Ah, that's what I mean... so if my only ride to the event was in a post-'72 > car, will I have to park somewhere in the city and take a bus to the park? > > \/ /\ /\/ > www.sr20parts.com Van! If your only ride is a post '72 car, you will be severely flogged and hung by your toenails from the tallest tree in the park! :-D Kyle '69 2000 (still broken) '72 240Z '71 PL521 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 5 09:16:51 2000 From: "Kyle Hagemann" To: Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 08:15:12 -0700 Subject: Re: Nissan Eco-Vehicle spotted in S.F. > I placed the pic under the Interesting Cars Section of my Photopoint site. > > > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=41965&Auth=false > > Its so exciting to be a spy! > > Michael "Calspeed" Carion Hey Michael- Where is this image? I couldn't seem to find it anywhere. Oooh, maybe the jackbooted environazis have pulled some more of their black helicopter antics? (:-] Thanks- ____ Kyle Hagemann, Born-Again Grease Monkey From Beyond _.;(____\____ 72 240Z, L28/E88/SU, 5sp, all poly - Z Beast | _ | | _'@`, 71 PL521, LZ22, SUs, 2" exh, 4spd - The Hulk `-(#)------(#)-< 69 2000, Lousy rackin' frackin' U20 - Broken ------------------- 84 Maxima, Tokicos/ST springs, 238K - Mr Max http://www.sonic.net/~kyle http://www.sonic.net/~kyle/cars.html From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 5 10:28:32 2000 From: "Kyle Hagemann" To: "Alex Avery" Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 09:26:11 -0700 Subject: Re: Nissan Eco-Vehicle spotted in S.F. From: "Alex Avery" > Kyle, it was the green, bushy looking thing. Micheal is spoofing us. (The > picture is of a large hedge with some car bits stuck onto it to make it > resemble a car--hence the eco-friendly tag). > > Alex > > At 08:15 AM 10/5/00 -0700, you wrote: > >> I placed the pic under the Interesting Cars Section of my Photopoint site. > >> > >> > >> http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=41965&Auth=false Awww, lordy. Is it April already?! Now, if he'd'a said it was in the "Assorted Automobile Pics." section, I woulda got it;-) Maybe? It oughtta be a hit with the Rice crowd - look at all the lights! And that low-low airdam:-) Kyle woolen eyeglasses From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 5 11:03:13 2000 From: noji To: Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 10:18:41 -0700 Subject: Re: Sideview mirrors, are they stock? List, On one of the BADROC drives there was someone with a RHD 2000 from Japan. He had these great mirrors that would fold in. I believe that they were stock in Japan. Space is very important in Japan and they would also be a great addition to my car in its very cramped garage space. Dana Alex Avery wrote: > > We've been wondering ever since Dennis bought this '69 last year whether > the sideview mirrors, mounted on the middle of the front fenders, are a > stock Datsun product or if they were aftermarket mirrors or mirrors adapted > from another car entirely. -- Dana Nojima, Ph.D. Department of Urology VA Medical Center - 112F 4150 Clement Street San Francisco, CA 94121 phone: (415) 221-4810 x 2031 fax: (415) 750-6639 noji-1@pacbell.net From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 5 11:28:27 2000 From: Marc Tyler To: , "Roadster list" , Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 12:33:42 -0500 Subject: Re: Nissan Eco-Vehicle spotted in S.F. CalSpeed@aol.com wrote >I was driving around The City and I spotted the Nissan Eco-Van concept car. >I guess it isn't due to be in the market for alittle while because from what >I can tell there are still many rough areas to deal with. > >This Eco-Van was parked outside of a house here in SF. It looks very much >enviromental friendly but there are also subtle hints to its minivan past. >There are also some parts used from other Nissan models but I dont really >know which models they are from. I am sure the savvy among us will be able >to tell. Are you sure it's no the Hemp4Victory-Mobile? BTW, I thought "The City" referred to NYC....Mike? -Marc T. From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 5 12:15:07 2000 From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, noji Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 10:56:28 -0700 Subject: Re[2]: Sideview mirrors, are they stock? Dana, I remember seeing that too. The guy mentioned that the fold-ins are stock. I think there was a swivel on the arm that attaches to the fender. I'm also bumping into the mirror when in the garage, would be nice to swivel it. My late-model Z has fold-in mirrors, very nice feature. However, my daughter's Altima has fixed position mirrors, always bumping into them, bummer. Any aftermarket source of swivel mirrors for the roadster? Fred - So.SF ______________________ Reply Separator __________________________ >Subject: Re: Sideview mirrors, are they stock? >Author: noji >Date: 10/5/2000 10:18 AM > >List, > >On one of the BADROC drives there was someone with a RHD 2000 from >Japan. He had these great mirrors that would fold in. I believe that >they were stock in Japan. Space is very important in Japan and they >would also be a great addition to my car in its very cramped garage >space. > >Dana > >Alex Avery wrote: >> >> We've been wondering ever since Dennis bought this '69 last year >whether > the sideview mirrors, mounted on the middle of the front >fenders, are a >> stock Datsun product or if they were aftermarket mirrors or mirrors >adapted > from another car entirely. > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 5 12:25:09 2000 From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us To: "Roadster list" , Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:06:01 -0700 Subject: Re[2]: Nissan Eco-Vehicle spotted in S.F. No, over here SF is called The City, aren't you The Big Apple? And we are definitely The City after our Giants trounced the Mets! BTW, that Eco-Van is what your roadster will look like if you leave it in the yard too long without a top. Yuck. Fred - So.SF _____________________ Reply Separator __________________________ >Subject: Re: Nissan Eco-Vehicle spotted in S.F. >Author: Marc Tyler >Date: 10/5/2000 12:33 PM > >CalSpeed@aol.com wrote > >>I was driving around The City and I spotted the Nissan Eco-Van concept car. >>I guess it isn't due to be in the market for alittle while because from what >>I can tell there are still many rough areas to deal with. >> >>This Eco-Van was parked outside of a house here in SF. It looks very much >>enviromental friendly but there are also subtle hints to its minivan past. >>There are also some parts used from other Nissan models but I dont really >>know which models they are from. I am sure the savvy among us will be able >>to tell. >Are you sure it's no the Hemp4Victory-Mobile? > >BTW, I thought "The City" referred to NYC....Mike? > >-Marc T. > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 5 13:24:54 2000 From: Taylor Collins To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 12:23:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: need a couple things Hi All, I'm really trying to budget seeing that money doesn't flow for a kid my age without a salaried job:). I'm in need of new rod and main journal bearings. I found a set of both for a combined price of $171.00. If anyone knows of some for less, please notify me. Also, I need a distributor, new or used. If anyone has one laying around, not in use, I would be more than happy to take it off there hands. I'd pay shipping of course. I appreciate all the help so far. -Taylor Collins __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 5 14:02:21 2000 From: SPL311RDST@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 16:01:48 EDT Subject: Re: Nissan Eco-Vehicle spotted in S.F. In a message dated 10/5/00 12:42:54 AM US Mountain Standard Time, CalSpeed@aol.com writes: > Its so exciting to be a spy! We get that a lot around here - especially in the "winter" months - mystery cars skipping around in the "full body bra" stealth thingy. The big auto mfg's have their "secret test tracks" scattered about ther area - as a matter of fact, Nissan's is about 50 mi SE of here in Casa Grande. I've driven past the little sign, but ya can't go in. As I unsderstand it, they are VERY protective of their track. Mark knows a guy who had a sailplane (glider) emergency landing out there once - they whisked the guy off, and confiscated his glider, telling him never to return !!! Fortunately the FAA has some pretty tough int'l air reg's that allowed him to get it back. (gliders cost WAY more than any silly old imported luxury sedan!). One of the others (can't remember which) had their track out by Williams AFB - convenient as it was "controlled air space" and no "spies" could get a peek at their doings - now, the Base ain't what it used to be, and the test area moved elsewhere. I guess you could call these the "Area 51 for cars!" Laurie :-) 70 SPL311 69 SRL311 Chandler, AZ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 5 14:19:59 2000 From: rlloyd3@juno.com To: aavery@rica.net Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 14:17:51 -0400 Subject: innocenti Innocenti spider, pretty cool. A man down the street has an old one. ________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 5 14:26:43 2000 From: stephan To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 13:26:07 -0700 Subject: solenoid valves Hello, I've been looking for a 3 way 12V DC solenoid valve all over the place but can't seem to find one. Anyone know where i can buy one ? Thanks, Stephan '69 2000 BADROC From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 5 14:38:32 2000 From: "Andrew Murphy" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 13:38:06 PDT Subject: Minilite wheels Hello All, Well, I am well into getting parts for my restoration of my 67 2000 Solex car. LSD,Aluminum oil pan, red interior kit, and now I am looking at a comp suspension and some racing wheels. Found someone selling some Minilites that he says are "the same as the 240Z and will take a zero offset wheel that is 14x6.5" My question is will these fit my car? TIA, Andrew Murphy SoCalROC _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 5 14:54:34 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: solex67@hotmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 16:53:33 EDT Subject: Re: Minilite wheels In a message dated 10/5/00 8:39:50 PM !!!First Boot!!!, solex67@hotmail.com writes: << Found someone selling some Minilites that he says are "the same as the 240Z and will take a zero offset wheel that is 14x6.5" >> Hello, 6.5 wide will be a tight fit. You will have to compensate and not get huge tires. I think 195 would be the largest with that rim. I am running with 14x6 with a very lowered suspension and I just make it in the rear. Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 5 14:57:51 2000 From: dhbain To: CalSpeed@aol.com Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 14:10:11 -0700 Subject: Re: Nissan Eco-Vehicle spotted in S.F. It'a needs a trim! CalSpeed@aol.com wrote: > But I did sneak a picture before I talked to him and I > posted it on my site. You gotta check it out. From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 5 15:13:11 2000 From: RWM To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 17:12:17 -0400 Subject: Re: Nissan Eco-Vehicle spotted in S.F. The elusive Nissan Chia? dhbain wrote: > > It'a needs a trim! > > CalSpeed@aol.com wrote: > > > But I did sneak a picture before I talked to him and I > > posted it on my site. You gotta check it out. From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 5 17:33:44 2000 From: "Adam Fox" To: , Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 10:30:05 +1000 Subject: Re: Starter / Compression Heres a very unlikey suggestion, but i guess it could happen- leaky valve stem seals on one cylinder filling it with oil overnight or over time, giving it extra high compression due to the oil sealing the rings extra well compared to the rest. Just a thought....... Adam Fox ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 8:43 AM Subject: Starter / Compression > Hello, > > For the past few years my starter has been acting strange. Sometimes it > crnaks nice but then it started to stall when the motor has been driven for > awhile and it got alittle hot. One of the things that it has done was to > stall out temporarily while cranking. It sounded like it was cranking three > cylinders and then the fourth it would stall or hesitate until it passed over > that cylinder. > > Anyway, I changed the starter to a new unit and it cranks strong but it still > does that stall / hesitation over one of the cylinders. What would this > mean? Does it have something to do with compression? > > Currently, my Roadster is running nice and strong. No problems at all with > the motor. > > Any ideas? > > Calspeed > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 5 18:15:45 2000 From: Nathen Ruffcorn To: Alex Avery , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 20:15:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Mirror/Glass Removal-WAS Sideview Mirrors.... Alex- I have a few bits of information on removing the glass from the bases-hopefully it is enough.... When I had my rearview mirror rechromed I told the plating guy to break the glass if he couldn't get it out. I was impressed when I stopped by to check progress and found the mirror intact-covered with several pieces of duct tape. I never asked but apparently he laid several pieces of the tape across the face and simply pulled it out-without damage. I still bought a new mirror anyway(next to the new chrome, EVERY defect in the old mirror stood out). Showed the glass guy my car and he cut a new one for $3! Hope this helps Nathan ------Original Message------ From: Alex Avery To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: October 5, 2000 2:31:28 PM GMT Subject: Sideview mirrors, are they stock? We've been wondering ever since Dennis bought this '69 last year whether the sideview mirrors, mounted on the middle of the front fenders, are a stock Datsun product or if they were aftermarket mirrors or mirrors adapted from another car entirely. Does anyone have any clue? You can see the car and mirrors at the following web address or at Roman Rist's roadster registry site. (Note: the photo is a 1.2mb file, but I just hate grainy, fuzzy pics, so I loaded the big pic files) http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/alex280zguy?e&.intl=us&.flabel=fld2&.from=d&.pind ex=2&start=1&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/alex280zguy%3fd%26.f label=fld2%26.intl=us%26.src=ph Thanks for any clues as to the origins of these very cool looking side mirrors. Also, they need rechroming, but I'm concerned about how to get the mirror glass out and back in without damaging them. Any ideas? I was thinking that instead of worrying about keeping the original glass and having to bend the metal rim that holds the mirror glass in, I'd just break the glass to remove it so as not to damage the metal and then to have new mirror glass cut slightly smaller than the original opening so that the glass could be glued in with silicone without having to bend any metal. Sound good, or is there a better way. Alex Avery From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 5 18:15:45 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 20:10:48 -0400 Subject: Re: Starter / Compression Marc, Thanks. Another myth that was wrong, Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Marc Sayer To: datsunmike Cc: ; Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 10:42 PM Subject: Re: Starter / Compression > This concept seems to have more lives than a cheap politician. I don't > know where or how it got started for sure but I think it has to do with > some of the older cars and trucks that used heavy gear oils in the > trannys or something. Anyway it is dead wrong. No better way to load the > engine than to depress the clutch. The only exception would be cold > weather starts in cars with very heavy gear oil in the trans (a sure way > to ruin the trans and there is no need with today's lubricants). In that > case the fluid drag and friction losses in the tranny might create more > drag on the crank than depressing the clutch would. > > When you depress the clutch you are loading the thrust washers with the > full load of the clutch (0n the comp clutch that's 650 kg or about 1400 > lb.) before there is any oil on the thrust faces (and before the crank > has developed any gyro effect but that's a whole other thing and > opinions differ on that quite a bit so lets just stick with lubrication > factor). It is absolutely the worst thing you can do to your crank and > thrust washers. Over the years I got so as I could identify clutch > riders by the wear in the cranks and thrust washers. When you ride the > clutch at idle you are loading the thrusts surfaces the same way as when > starting but at least oil is being supplied to them. Do it before you > crank the engine and you are pushing bare metal to bare metal and then > spinning the one against the other. Yikes! > > Not only does it load the engine and make starting harder, it wears out > the crank and thrust washers much faster. > > > BTW, do you start it with the clutch depressed? I read that it is a good > > idea and makes it easier to crank over. > > > -- > Marc Sayer > Editor/Publisher > Z Car & Classic Datsun Magazine > http://zcarmag.com > Voice 541-726-6001 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 5 18:40:12 2000 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 20:41:33 -0400 Subject: Seat covers Earlier this week some one mentioned neoprene seat covers. Well, they weren't joking. Take a look at . And if you get a chance to look at the latest Car and Driver, check out the new roadster (No, not from Nissan ) on page 154. No roof, window, or doors. 118 horse power and weighs only 1150 pounds. Paul OROC From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 5 20:17:31 2000 From: R Haug To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 19:16:45 -0700 Subject: 67.5 2000 seen by Andrew I tried to send this but it bounced back. Andrew, The car you pointed out to us looks to be the one I drove from Clarkston WA. If you look at the hood, the Datsun letters are missing. The guy had the car repainted but it was just ok. The color and top are the same as the one I drove. They did not tape the car off very well before the paint job. The car in the picture looks to have Washington plates on it too. If it is the same car it had 150,000 miles. As the add states 50,000 + 100,000. The car was original but well worn. Needed to be updated. Mostly had maintenance done to it. Would probably need major rebuild of multiple components. Bob From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 5 20:47:32 2000 From: Chris Robertson To: Andrew Murphy , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 19:56:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Minilite wheels Andrew, I have a set of 14x7 minilites. They fit fine, backspacing is perfect. There is one issue to consider. I think these were for a Z because the 7/16 roadster lug nuts were smaller than the diameter of the bolt holes in the wheels. For a while I centered the wheels the best I could and tightened them down smartly. Then one rainy day, when coming home from a TDROC meet, the front right wheel flew off. After crapping my pants I made a controlled slide to the shoulder and went whel hunting. Found the wheel and no damage done to the roadster fortunately. Had to buy new underwear, though. ;-) The next week I had an above average machine shop fabricate and install inserts (basically metal sleeves, scored to keep them fixed in the wheels). The lugnuts fit perfectly and I have had no lost wheels since. It cost $80 for the machine work 6 years ago. Other than that, the wheels have been outstanding. Two required straightening when I bought them 7 years ago, and I had all 4 refinished at that time. They still look new today. I get comments about them almost everytime I drive the roadster. There is no better looking wheel on the roadster as far as I'm concerned. If you don't buy them I want them! Good luck, Chris 2 '69 2000s '96 Miata M --- Andrew Murphy wrote: > Hello All, > > Well, I am well into getting parts for my > restoration of my 67 2000 Solex > car. LSD,Aluminum oil pan, red interior kit, and now > I am looking at a comp > suspension and some racing wheels. > > Found someone selling some Minilites that he says > are "the same as the 240Z > and will take a zero offset wheel that is 14x6.5" > > My question is will these fit my car? > > TIA, > > Andrew Murphy > SoCalROC > _________________________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 01:59:01 2000 From: TRRACE@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 03:57:50 EDT Subject: Roadster for sale Hello all, This is in the Sac. Bee newspaper. Just thought I'd pass it on to the list in case anyone was in the market. This is not my car, and I don't know anything about it. So, call the listed number if you are interested. MUST SELL This week closing escrow DATSUN 1968 Roadster 1600 2nd owner, 69k orig mi, roll bar, new soft top. Tonneau cover, lots of extras, good cond. $4850/ofr 530-277-0606 Posted: 10/05/00 Print Ad Trrace@aol.com 67 1600 69 2000 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 02:49:04 2000 From: Roman Rist To: datsun roadsters Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 01:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: UPDATED WEBPAGE Hi kids! I'm dog tired and bug eyed from working on the website. I have new pics up!!! your car may be one of them....you never know. ALL pics are active (linked to another page) Should keep you busy clicking back and forth for a while. (Just in case you are bored) So check it out. Thanks Roman Ps. send your registry info and pics, if you haven't ===== ristguitars@yahoo.com http://www.geocities.com/roadsterregistry/index.html http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=379995 __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 05:19:22 2000 From: "Michael Baker" To: "'Paul'" <9laser3@bright.net>, Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 07:07:51 -0400 Subject: RE: Seat covers I do not recommend the neoprene seat covers, they absorb salt & sweat and will eventually begin the stink. Try the seat savers from Covercraft Ind. (800-624-9832or check out their Webb page) Their product is made out of a poly / cotton material and is easily installed and removed for cleaning in a standard washer & dryer. Just my .02 Michael Baker OROC -----Original Message----- From: owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 8:42 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Seat covers Earlier this week some one mentioned neoprene seat covers. Well, they weren't joking. Take a look at . And if you get a chance to look at the latest Car and Driver, check out the new roadster (No, not from Nissan ) on page 154. No roof, window, or doors. 118 horse power and weighs only 1150 pounds. Paul OROC From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 08:49:52 2000 From: PLETCH5@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 10:48:14 EDT Subject: Car for sale in Bay area I found this ad in NASA for a vintage racing "kit" 69 datsun roadster. no price was listed but here are phone numbers H510 886 1581 w650 312 4022 Ken DATSTER From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 09:38:02 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: fredkatz@2xtreme.net, Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us, shifty@well.com, Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 11:32:29 EDT Subject: Re: Re[4]: O/T BADROC-BBQ In a message dated 10/5/00 10:44:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, fredkatz@2xtreme.net writes: << Click on GG Park a couple times to see a blow-up of the Speedway Meadow area. http://www.transitinfo.org/cgi-bin/zoom/MU/system >> This is a great amp Fred! To get to Speedway Meadow click above the "d" in the word Golden of Golden Gate Park. See you there! Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 11:59:25 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 10:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Looking for taillight housings. Hello All, I would very much like to purchase a replacement set of the tail light housings for my car (69 2000). I'm talking just the round 'base' that bolts to the car and that the actual light screws into. These do not have to be perfect-I am planing on doing some customization of my taillights and want a backup set just in case I screw up.. What kind of cust. you say??? Well lets just say that I might have to change the name of my car from Feynman to ....Datillac....... Daniel 69 2000 SF CA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 12:12:44 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: CalSpeed@aol.com Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 11:04:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Re[4]: O/T BADROC-BBQ >From looking at the map it does not look like this years area is any bigger than last years.. in fact to me it looks a whole lot smaller?? I jog thru that part of the park all the time and I can not picture a 'big' meadow there.. Hope there is enough room for everybody. I HAVE to go to a bachelor part and Irene has to go to a bachelorette party Sat night.....I don't think that we are going to be there at 9am... We will definately be there so save us a spot for our car please. thanks, Daniel 69 2000 > In a message dated 10/5/00 10:44:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > fredkatz@2xtreme.net writes: > > << Click on GG Park a couple times to see a blow-up of the Speedway Meadow > area. > > http://www.transitinfo.org/cgi-bin/zoom/MU/system >> > > This is a great amp Fred! To get to Speedway Meadow click above the "d" in > the word Golden of Golden Gate Park. > > See you there! > > Calspeed > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 12:17:32 2000 From: stephan To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 11:16:47 -0700 Subject: Resources Hello, Just came across these sites and thought i'd share with the community: http://www.globalspec.com ; great tech library http://www.oemsurplus911.com ; surplus parts Stephan '69 2000 BADROC From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 12:57:51 2000 From: Taylor Collins To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 11:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: 15x7 or not Hi all, I have a pair of 15x7 Panasports, 0 offset, from my previous 240z. I was wondering if I could run these in the rear of my 2000 to compensate for the smaller wheelbase, and then run 15x6s in the front. Will this fit??( I mean, I figure I'll have to flare the fenders a little, but will this rub on the inside anywhere??) Thanks-Taylor __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 14:40:04 2000 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 16:39:46 -0400 Subject: Why parts are hard to find? Saw this come across the vintage-race list. No wonder we are running short of Datsun parts. They're going to rebuild British cars! Paul OROC -----Original Message----- From: JWoesvra@aol.com To: ericsmgs@prodigy.net ; lwdent@fwi.com ; mgvrmark@hotmail.com Cc: grand_wazoo@flinet.com ; malcox@sonic.net ; vintage-race@autox.team.net Date: Friday, October 06, 2000 8:10 AM Subject: Re: clutch rebuilding >I use Joint and Clutch in Columbia, SC. They built new half-shafts for my GT6 >when I converted to Datsun outer hubs. Triumph flange on inboard end, Datsun >flange on the outer. Work great. > >Jack Woehrle From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 15:00:42 2000 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 17:01:52 -0400 Subject: SCCA National Run-Offs at MidOhio Two years ago Tom Phelan drove in for the MidOhio Vintage Grand Prix and wrote an article for ZCCD titled 'Racing between the Storms'. If he came up this year for the Run-Offs this weekend, the article we be title 'Racing between the Snow Flakes'! Forecast for Mansfield, Ohio calls for snow today through Sunday. Hopefully the rain that is also forecast for the whole weekend will melt the snow. Not a good weekend for roadster racing! I know most folks bring rain tires to MidOhio, but do they even make racing rubber snows? Does NOMEX underwear, designed to protect a driver from the heat of a fire, also protect him from frost bite? Paul OROC From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 15:18:50 2000 From: Roman Rist To: Paul <9laser3@bright.net>, Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 14:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Why parts are hard to find? The Nerve of those guys! We don't use MG parts to rebuild our Roadsters! Roman --- Paul <9laser3@bright.net> wrote: > Saw this come across the vintage-race list. No wonder we are > running > short of Datsun parts. They're going to rebuild British cars! > > Paul > OROC > > -----Original Message----- > From: JWoesvra@aol.com > To: ericsmgs@prodigy.net ; lwdent@fwi.com > ; mgvrmark@hotmail.com > Cc: grand_wazoo@flinet.com ; malcox@sonic.net > ; vintage-race@autox.team.net > > Date: Friday, October 06, 2000 8:10 AM > Subject: Re: clutch rebuilding > > > >I use Joint and Clutch in Columbia, SC. They built new half-shafts > for my > GT6 > >when I converted to Datsun outer hubs. Triumph flange on inboard > end, > Datsun > >flange on the outer. Work great. > > > >Jack Woehrle > > __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 15:58:10 2000 From: noji To: Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 15:12:49 -0700 Subject: Re: SCCA National Run-Offs at MidOhio Paul, What about studded racing tires. My first winter in Minnesota I went to see ice racing. I thought it would be like the Keystone Cop on ice. To my surprise the cars were dedicated ice racers. Lots of fun to watch. Dana Paul wrote: > > Two years ago Tom Phelan drove in for the MidOhio Vintage Grand Prix and > wrote an article for ZCCD titled 'Racing between the Storms'. If he came > up this year for the Run-Offs this weekend, the article we be title 'Racing > between the Snow Flakes'! Forecast for Mansfield, Ohio calls for snow today > through Sunday. Hopefully the rain that is also forecast for the whole > weekend will melt the snow. Not a good weekend for roadster racing! > I know most folks bring rain tires to MidOhio, but do they even make > racing rubber snows? Does NOMEX underwear, designed to protect a driver > from the heat of a fire, also protect him from frost bite? > > Paul > OROC -- Dana Nojima, Ph.D. Department of Urology VA Medical Center - 112F 4150 Clement Street San Francisco, CA 94121 phone: (415) 221-4810 x 2031 fax: (415) 750-6639 noji-1@pacbell.net From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 16:00:01 2000 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "Roman Rist" , Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 18:01:23 -0400 Subject: Re: Why parts are hard to find? Just reading that statement makes me shudder. Or is it because I stepped away from the fireplace (too early to fire up the furnace and snow in the forecast makes me cold!) Paul OROC -----Original Message----- From: Roman Rist To: Paul <9laser3@bright.net>; datsun roadsters Date: Friday, October 06, 2000 5:18 PM Subject: Re: Why parts are hard to find? >The Nerve of those guys! We don't use MG parts to rebuild our >Roadsters! > >Roman > > >--- Paul <9laser3@bright.net> wrote: >> Saw this come across the vintage-race list. No wonder we are >> running >> short of Datsun parts. They're going to rebuild British cars! >> >> Paul >> OROC >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: JWoesvra@aol.com >> To: ericsmgs@prodigy.net ; lwdent@fwi.com >> ; mgvrmark@hotmail.com >> Cc: grand_wazoo@flinet.com ; malcox@sonic.net >> ; vintage-race@autox.team.net >> >> Date: Friday, October 06, 2000 8:10 AM >> Subject: Re: clutch rebuilding >> >> >> >I use Joint and Clutch in Columbia, SC. They built new half-shafts >> for my >> GT6 >> >when I converted to Datsun outer hubs. Triumph flange on inboard >> end, >> Datsun >> >flange on the outer. Work great. >> > >> >Jack Woehrle >> >> > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! >http://photos.yahoo.com/ > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 16:01:38 2000 From: Davesmbox@aol.com To: ristguitars@yahoo.com, 9laser3@bright.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 18:00:40 EDT Subject: Re: Why parts are hard to find? In a message dated 10/6/00 5:20:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ristguitars@yahoo.com writes: << The Nerve of those guys! We don't use MG parts to rebuild our Roadsters! >> We don't use MG parts to rebuild our lawn mowers never mind our roadsters. DAVE From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 16:05:59 2000 From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com To: Roman Rist Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 15:05:25 -0700 Subject: Re: Why parts are hard to find? That's because we're not idiots! Gary McCormick San Jose, CA Roman Rist wrote: > The Nerve of those guys! We don't use MG parts to rebuild our > Roadsters! > > Roman > > --- Paul <9laser3@bright.net> wrote: > > Saw this come across the vintage-race list. No wonder we are > > running > > short of Datsun parts. They're going to rebuild British cars! > > > > Paul > > OROC > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: JWoesvra@aol.com > > To: ericsmgs@prodigy.net ; lwdent@fwi.com > > ; mgvrmark@hotmail.com > > Cc: grand_wazoo@flinet.com ; malcox@sonic.net > > ; vintage-race@autox.team.net > > > > Date: Friday, October 06, 2000 8:10 AM > > Subject: Re: clutch rebuilding > > > > > > >I use Joint and Clutch in Columbia, SC. They built new half-shafts > > for my > > GT6 > > >when I converted to Datsun outer hubs. Triumph flange on inboard > > end, > > Datsun > > >flange on the outer. Work great. > > > > > >Jack Woehrle > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! > http://photos.yahoo.com/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 17:44:38 2000 From: "Adam Fox" To: Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 10:41:01 +1000 Subject: thanks Just a note to say that I just recieved my headlight bezels from one of the US list members, and im very happy with them. This restoration would have been much more difficult if it weren't for the help from you guys. Thanks. Adam Fox (from down under) From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 17:46:13 2000 From: PLETCH5@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 19:45:46 EDT Subject: autox Sunday 22 Is anybody interested in doing a autox on Sunday 22 at the Marina Airport. It seems to be hosted by the Miata club,it will be my second attempt at autocrossing. Ken DATSTER From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 18:12:11 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: dneuman@stars.sfsu.edu Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 20:11:29 EDT Subject: Re: Re[4]: O/T BADROC-BBQ In a message dated 10/6/00 11:05:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dneuman@stars.sfsu.edu writes: << From looking at the map it does not look like this years area is any bigger than last years.. in fact to me it looks a whole lot smaller?? Hope there is enough room for everybody. I HAVE to go to a bachelor part and Irene has to go to a bachelorette party Sat night.....I don't think that we are going to be there at 9am... >> In a message dated 10/6/00 11:05:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dneuman@stars.sfsu.edu writes: << I HAVE to go to a bachelor part and Irene has to go to a bachelorette party Sat night.....I don't think that we are going to be there at 9am... We will definately be there so save us a spot for our car please. >> I went to the meadow and took a look for myself. It is actually alittle bigger. The map doesnt show the bushes and trees and the other stuff that seperate the two meadows. Oh... there will be alot of room for all of the cars. Mary and I are also going out on Sat night. Our first night of clubbing for close to two years. Yeah... since our baby Rosie! So I am sure that I will be totally wiped out too. But have no fear. I will get there very very early to reserve the spots. Michael "Calspeed" Carion From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 18:13:36 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: tyco1983@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 17:13:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: 15x7 or not Hello, Let me see if I have this correct. Taylor. You are a high school kid who jsut totalled a ppumped up Z and now you are having a 2000 motor rebuilt with custom pistons and rods and your putting panasports on your project roadster???? Damn what did you do hit the lottery?? When I was in high school I barely had enough money to keep my scooter going let alone what you are attempting. Well, good luck-try not to total this car..Its a lot more rare than the Z you wrecked. Daniel 69 2000 SF CA > Hi all, > I have a pair of 15x7 Panasports, 0 offset, from my > previous 240z. I was wondering if I could run these > in the rear of my 2000 to compensate for the smaller > wheelbase, and then run 15x6s in the front. Will this > fit??( I mean, I figure I'll have to flare the fenders > a little, but will this rub on the inside anywhere??) Thanks-Taylor > > __________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! > http://photos.yahoo.com/ > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 18:17:02 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: CalSpeed@aol.com Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 17:16:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Re[4]: O/T BADROC-BBQ Hi Mike, Geez lay the guilt on will ya...Okay what time are you REALLY planning on being there?? I'll set the coffee pot to go off and roll out of bed and on over to the meadow-heck I only live 2 blocks away.. But I'm bringing a blanket and I'm going to curl up on the ground and nap for the first couple of hours...Or maybe jsut start drinking beer right away...hmm a little bit of the hair of the dog that bit me.... Daniel 69 2000 SF CA > > Mary and I are also going out on Sat night. Our first night of clubbing for > close to two years. Yeah... since our baby Rosie! So I am sure that I will > be totally wiped out too. But have no fear. I will get there very very > early to reserve the spots. > > Michael "Calspeed" Carion > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 18:38:40 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Daniel Neuman" , Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 20:33:52 -0400 Subject: Re: Looking for taillight housings. Dan, Puttin on those bullets from a 59???????? Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Neuman To: Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 1:58 PM Subject: Looking for taillight housings. > Hello All, > I would very much like to purchase a replacement set of the > tail light housings for my car (69 2000). I'm talking just the round 'base' > that bolts to the car and that the actual light screws into. These do not > have to be perfect-I am planing on doing some customization of my taillights > and want a backup set just in case I screw up.. What kind of cust. you > say??? Well lets just say that I might have to change the name of my car from > Feynman to ....Datillac....... > > Daniel 69 2000 > SF CA > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 18:41:07 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Roman Rist" , "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net>, Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 20:36:23 -0400 Subject: Re: Why parts are hard to find? Roman, Hey!!!!!! I ressemble those remarks!!!!!!! I have a few Brit parts in my car!!!! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Roman Rist To: Paul <9laser3@bright.net>; datsun roadsters Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 5:18 PM Subject: Re: Why parts are hard to find? > The Nerve of those guys! We don't use MG parts to rebuild our > Roadsters! > > Roman > > > --- Paul <9laser3@bright.net> wrote: > > Saw this come across the vintage-race list. No wonder we are > > running > > short of Datsun parts. They're going to rebuild British cars! > > > > Paul > > OROC > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: JWoesvra@aol.com > > To: ericsmgs@prodigy.net ; lwdent@fwi.com > > ; mgvrmark@hotmail.com > > Cc: grand_wazoo@flinet.com ; malcox@sonic.net > > ; vintage-race@autox.team.net > > > > Date: Friday, October 06, 2000 8:10 AM > > Subject: Re: clutch rebuilding > > > > > > >I use Joint and Clutch in Columbia, SC. They built new half-shafts > > for my > > GT6 > > >when I converted to Datsun outer hubs. Triumph flange on inboard > > end, > > Datsun > > >flange on the outer. Work great. > > > > > >Jack Woehrle > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! > http://photos.yahoo.com/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 18:44:14 2000 From: SPL311RDST@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 20:43:34 EDT Subject: Re: Why parts are hard to find? In a message dated 10/6/00 2:20:33 PM US Mountain Standard Time, ristguitars@yahoo.com writes: > The Nerve of those guys! We don't use MG parts to rebuild our > Roadsters! Hmmmm Door seals. Yeah, the door seals on mine are MGB. Work great too. You guys ain't gonna hate me now are ya? Laurie :-) 70 SPL311 69 SRL311 Chandler, AZ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 18:48:35 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 20:43:43 -0400 Subject: Auto Parts Surplus - World Trading This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C02FD6.1D783D60 charset="iso-8859-1" Check this site out if you haven't seen it already!!!!!! http://www.surplusparts.com/ ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C02FD6.1D783D60 name="Auto Parts Surplus - World Trading.url" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Auto Parts Surplus - World Trading.url" [DEFAULT] BASEURL=http://www.surplusparts.com/ [InternetShortcut] URL=http://www.surplusparts.com/ Modified=00DCF67AF72FC00133 ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C02FD6.1D783D60-- From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 18:56:11 2000 From: To: Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 01:52:47 +0100 Subject: Re: Why parts are hard to find? Funny...another item popular with MG fans here are Datsun 1200 steering boxes...apparently they fit some old MG...TC or TD maybe? I'd get my own back but there's nothing on an MG worth having (unless it has some nice mags :-) Eddie England 1969 SRL311 eddie@ratdat.com pics at www.ratdat.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; <9laser3@bright.net>; Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 11:00 PM Subject: Re: Why parts are hard to find? > In a message dated 10/6/00 5:20:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > ristguitars@yahoo.com writes: > > << > The Nerve of those guys! We don't use MG parts to rebuild our > Roadsters! > > >> > We don't use MG parts to rebuild our lawn mowers never mind our roadsters. > DAVE > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 18:57:08 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: , Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 20:50:51 -0400 Subject: Re: autox Sunday 22 Ken, Go show im what a real car can do!!!!!! Make sur you leave rubber in 2nd. I'm sure they'll be jealous!! Miata Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 7:45 PM Subject: autox Sunday 22 > Is anybody interested in doing a autox on Sunday 22 at the Marina Airport. It > seems to be hosted by the Miata club,it will be my second attempt at > autocrossing. > > > Ken > DATSTER From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 19:24:28 2000 From: Roman Rist To: datsunmike , Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 18:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Why parts are hard to find? Yea, but do you reassemble the parts?.... and hey! where is a pic of your car for the registry?? no MGs or Miatas Roman --- datsunmike wrote: Roman, Hey!!!!!! I ressemble those remarks!!!!!!! I have a few Brit parts in my car!!!! The Nerve of those guys! We don't use MG parts to rebuild our Roadsters! Roman Paul <9laser3@bright.net> wrote: Saw this come across the vintage-race list. No wonder we are running short of Datsun parts. They're going to rebuild British cars! Paul __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 19:39:12 2000 From: Roman Rist To: SPL311RDST@aol.com, datsun roadsters Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 18:38:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Why parts are hard to find? Well,....Ok, Laurie, I forgive you. Roman ===== ristguitars@yahoo.com http://www.geocities.com/roadsterregistry/index.html http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=379995 __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 19:50:56 2000 From: "Mike Adams" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 19:58:25 +0000 Subject: Re: Why parts are hard to find? Makes me shudder too..... What's snow????? Mike - TDROC > Just reading that statement makes me shudder. Or is it because I stepped >away from the fireplace (too early to fire up the furnace and snow in the >forecast makes me cold!) > >Paul >OROC From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 19:58:12 2000 From: Eric Frisbee To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 19:57:36 -0600 Subject: Re: Why parts are hard to find? Shudder away! It's snowing here in Denver!!! And it snowed 2 inches 2 weeks ago... Now where did fall go again?? Eric WyCROC Mike Adams wrote: > > Makes me shudder too..... What's snow????? > Mike - TDROC > > > Just reading that statement makes me shudder. Or is it because I stepped > >away from the fireplace (too early to fire up the furnace and snow in the > >forecast makes me cold!) > > > >Paul > >OROC From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 21:33:42 2000 From: Steve Swearnigen To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 22:19:53 -0500 Subject: Carb Needles Hello, I have been off the list for some time, but I recall a thread about card needles and a few individuals researching / profiling needles. I have a 69 2000 but with a early model distributor (also Tom's excellent air injector plugs). What is the recommended needle for this setup (general use, no racing)? I currently received a carb lit from Les with N17 needles. Thank you, Steve Swearingen Houston, TX 69 2K From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 22:41:43 2000 From: "Pam & Paul Bauman" To: "Roadster List" Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 21:36:52 -0700 Subject: wiring harness Went nuts and bought a new harness for the car. A thing of beauty it is, too. The only problem (well, so far!) is that I didn't write down enough info on the fuse block. Which wires from which part of the harness go where? I've got likely wires coming from the engine bay harness and some from the dash harness. The wiring diagram is only partially helpful. Anyone buy a harness replacement and keep better records than me? Paul Bauman Westminster, CA 67 1600 http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=881168&a=6499541 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 22:44:21 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: datsunmike@nyc.rr.com, ristguitars@yahoo.com, 9laser3@bright.net, Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 00:43:53 EDT Subject: Re: Why parts are hard to find? << Roman, Hey!!!!!! I ressemble those remarks!!!!!!! I have a few Brit parts in my car!!!! Mike > The Nerve of those guys! We don't use MG parts to rebuild our > Roadsters! > > Roman >> Interesting subject because I had a British car part installed and it was one of the things that gave away. Three years ago when I bought the car there was a new Lucas starter installed. Well, it has always given me problems and now it failed. I just installed a new Nissan part. I have no doubt that I will be using it for a long time. Btw... my battery was low which is why my car didnt start to well. Fully charged it cranks perfectly. Thanks to all for the great advise. Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 22:47:07 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: eddie@ratdat.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 00:45:55 EDT Subject: Re: Why parts are hard to find? In a message dated 10/6/00 5:59:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time, eddie@ratdat.com writes: << Funny...another item popular with MG fans here are Datsun 1200 steering boxes...apparently they fit some old MG...TC or TD maybe? >> Yes.... and the five speed trannys are very popular with the British crowd too. Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 22:53:30 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 00:52:43 EDT Subject: BRE Spook / Airdam I just installed my paint matching BRE airdam from CDM. Of course it didnt go on without any incidents but once I made an emergency call to Les he explained what I needed to do and it went on without a problem. Thanks Les for the great parts and for the excellant customer service. If it wasnt for you I would have installed it upside down. Yeah... yeah... dont ask. ;>) Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 6 23:03:23 2000 From: Susan and Mark Miller To: Datsun list Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 21:55:48 -0700 Subject: front fender mount rear view mirrors My 1969 2000, originally from Japan, has those same mirrors, as do the pictures of the car in the owners manual I have. Mark Miller PS: DSL means never having to apologize for posting large pictures. <<< ------Original Message------ From: Alex Avery To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: October 5, 2000 2:31:28 PM GMT Subject: Sideview mirrors, are they stock? We've been wondering ever since Dennis bought this '69 last year whether the sideview mirrors, mounted on the middle of the front fenders, are a stock Datsun product or if they were aftermarket mirrors or mirrors adapted from another car entirely. Does anyone have any clue? You can see the car and mirrors at the following web address or at Roman Rist's roadster registry site. (Note: the photo is a 1.2mb file, but I just hate grainy, fuzzy pics, so I loaded the big pic files) http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/alex280zguy?e&.intl=us&.flabel=fld2&.from=d&.pind ex=2&start=1&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/alex280zguy%3fd%26.f label=fld2%26.intl=us%26.src=ph Thanks for any clues as to the origins of these very cool looking side mirrors. >>> From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 7 03:09:26 2000 From: Dan Neuman To: "datsunmike" , Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 02:14:52 -0700 Subject: Re: Looking for taillight housings. Hi Mike, Yep you guessed it. JC-whitney sells some knock-offs that are'nt half bad in quality... I jsut gotta figure out how to mount them and make it look good. The base is designed to fit inside something else. It would fit in a roadster tail light housing if I increased the diameter of the opening maybe a quarter inch or so. Daniel 69 2000 SF CA At 8:33 PM -0400 10/6/00, datsunmike wrote: >Dan, > >Puttin on those bullets from a 59???????? > >Mike From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 7 06:06:16 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 08:01:22 -0400 Subject: Re: Why parts are hard to find? Eddie, One part carries my butt and the other my convertible top. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: To: datsunmike Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 10:37 PM Subject: Re: Why parts are hard to find? > You're okay with Brit parts as long as they don't carry > electricity or oil! > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 7 06:09:20 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: , , <9laser3@bright.net>, Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 08:04:41 -0400 Subject: Re: Why parts are hard to find? My Lucas rebuilt starter ain't the best either!!!!!!!!! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; <9laser3@bright.net>; Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 12:43 AM Subject: Re: Why parts are hard to find? > << Roman, > Hey!!!!!! I ressemble those remarks!!!!!!! I have a few Brit parts in my > car!!!! > Mike > > > The Nerve of those guys! We don't use MG parts to rebuild our > > Roadsters! > > > Roman >> > > Interesting subject because I had a British car part installed and it was one > of the things that gave away. Three years ago when I bought the car there > was a new Lucas starter installed. Well, it has always given me problems and > now it failed. I just installed a new Nissan part. I have no doubt that I > will be using it for a long time. > > Btw... my battery was low which is why my car didnt start to well. Fully > charged it cranks perfectly. Thanks to all for the great advise. > > Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 7 06:36:49 2000 From: Robert Rees To: rlloyd3@juno.com Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 07:42:02 -0500 Subject: Re: innocenti I believe that is an Italian version of the Austin Healey Sprite. You don't live in Wallingford Conneticut by chance do you?? A guy on the Spridget list has one of those. rlloyd3@juno.com wrote: > Innocenti spider, pretty cool. > A man down the street has an old one. > ________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 7 06:47:41 2000 From: HIGHKIX4@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 08:47:11 EDT Subject: L20B/510 list, help For all: I know I asked for the location of the 510 list months ago, but I never joined because I was still deep into the roadster restoration (and it will never be all the way done, but I'm driving it and it looks pretty good) So, now I have an opportunity to buy a worn L20 B engine and a good NAP-Z 5 spd for $125. The 5sp bell housing tilts the wrong way, and I need some advice. Looks like its time to join the 510 list. I heard the 5 spd guts will fit in the 4 spd case...... I will, of course, stay on with the roadster list(s)! Too much fun, camaraderie, and good advice not to... Thanks. Jim Chesapeake Va 67 pushrod 2L 5spd 72 510 wagon, tired 1600 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 7 08:39:29 2000 From: R Haug To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 07:39:08 -0700 Subject: anti-drain back tube I just had an anti-drain back tube made for the oil filter housing on my 2L. Could someone tell me how long it should be fron the base of the housing where the seal is to the end of the tube. Presently mine measures 4 3/8 inches. TIA Bob 67.5 2L Moscow, Idaho From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 7 10:01:52 2000 From: R Haug To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 09:01:17 -0700 Subject: Re: anti-drain back tube I have already found the measurements in the archives. Thanks Bob From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 7 18:44:11 2000 From: Davesmbox@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 20:42:48 EDT Subject: Rear end and 411 oil pan Hey List. Anyone have first hand experience with putting a 1600 rear end differential on a 2000. I know on paper it should be faster off the line but is it noticeable in the actual car. Also there is an aluminum oil pan on ebay. The seller claims it is for a 2000. Thanks to a tip from someone on the list who noticed my bid I was informed that the oil pan is actually for a 410. I am a nut for originality so I won't bid on this again but am curious. Would this 410 pan have fit a roadster. Also why a competition pan for the 410. I know the 510 is big with the racers but the 410????? DAVE From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 7 19:40:02 2000 From: R Haug To: Davesmbox@aol.com, Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 18:39:48 -0700 Subject: Re: Rear end and 411 oil pan Davesmbox@aol.com wrote: > Hey List. > Anyone have first hand experience with putting a 1600 rear end differential > on a 2000. Dave, You will go from a 3.7 in the 2000 to a 3.9 in the 1600. It will have faster acceleration but a slower top speed for the same RPM. Bob BTW: I do not have my car together but I have the 3.9 gearing. From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 7 22:10:53 2000 From: "Victor Laury" To: Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 20:51:42 -0700 Subject: Brit Transplants I've read quite a bit on the subject and to our Marque's credit, Datsun parts are prized by the Brit crowd. The heads from the "E" and "J" Motors are gifts from the gods to sprites and Minis. You'll find more than a few Austin sedans and others with "R" motors. But, The BEST! The thing that will really make you smile, is the Laments from the TR-6/GT-6 crowd that they can't fit the Z's L-24/26/28 motors under their bonnets to replace their Leland boat anchors! Poor folks! After being denied championship glory, again and again by SRL Roadsters. Can we all give them a collective sympathetic "AWWW" ? :-) Victor 70 SRL 31113136 Los Angeles http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=123073 SoCalROC http://www.ameri-eagle.com/datsun/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 7 22:29:53 2000 From: "Victor Laury" To: Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 21:11:13 -0700 Subject: Bad Day at the AutoX I thought I was so ready, I prepared last night but still forgot my helmet, my jack handle and my spare shirt. These should have been omens heeded that I was "in for it" for the rest of the day. My runs were terrible. Instead of improving each run, I LOST a 10th each run. The last run, I miss handled a curve before the slalom and got DNF'd! After that, I found out that I pushed the tire off the bead. Talk about your stiff side walls, The BFG R-1's will support the car and not ride the rim. So I pulled out of my "time only" run and went to put on my street wheels. Well, my new Auto X wheels are just a little thinner in the mounting boss, so the lugs bottomed out on the hub and mushroomed. So there was no way to put on my streets. Fortunately I could get the flat replaced with a street. Some things were good though. Dennis showed up with the CDM video camera and got some good stills and videos. I also got to wear the CDM magnetics, So I felt Muy Proffesionally. After lunch I went to Dennis's and helped pull an L motor from a 510 and that went very smooth. So, it wasn't that bad, I still had fun and that's the point right? Hey! I could use some company out there! How about some of you "Armchair Racers" give it a try? Victor 70 SRL 31113136 Los Angeles http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=123073 SoCalROC http://www.ameri-eagle.com/datsun/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 7 22:31:44 2000 From: "Pam & Paul Bauman" To: "Roadster List" , Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 21:28:17 -0700 Subject: Re: Brit Transplants Victor: Bad form, old man :) After being denied championship glory, again and again by SRL Roadsters. Can we all give them a collective sympathetic "AWWW" ? :-) Paul Bauman Westminster, CA 67 1600 http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=881168&a=6499541 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 7 23:43:03 2000 From: "Victor Laury" To: "Pam & Paul Bauman" , Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 22:24:30 -0700 Subject: Re: Brit Transplants Victor: Bad form, old man :) Paul Bauman Actually, I should watch it on the Triumph jokes. After all, The list is run by Team.net, witch is run by Mark B. (a major Triumph Nut). So, if I get him mad, I could suddenly, with out warning, disappear in mid senten From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 8 02:16:17 2000 From: SPL311RDST@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 04:15:10 EDT Subject: Datsun Roadster WebRing update Hello all ! There's been a lot of activity lately with folks adding some great new websites. ( Yes,, you included Roman!) I thought I'd take this opportunity to invite them all to join the Datsun Roadster Webring, and to let those of you who are already members know that there is a new option available for your Navigation Bar. (it's a Java one-liner - hard to mess up!). Maybe this'll get some of you who signed up long ago, but never put the code on your page to update soon! Info at : http://www.geocities.com/spl311rdst/index.html Laurie :-) 70 SPL311 69 SRL311 Chandler, AZ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 8 14:49:23 2000 From: Davesmbox@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 16:48:31 EDT Subject: Re: test Is the list quiet or do I have a problem? From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 8 15:19:08 2000 From: "Ryan, Richard" To: "'Victor Laury'" , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 14:20:38 -0700 Subject: RE: Bad Day at the AutoX It may be very anal but most racers use a list to keep track of everything they need pack. I haven't done it but a buddy drove 8 hours to a race only to find his detachable steering wheel was home in the garage hanging on his pegboard. He found that Vicegrips on the hub didn't work. Dick Ryan ex. 24022 (650)312-4022 Risk Management Dept. SM 2000/2 FAX (650)312-5830 -----Original Message----- From: Victor Laury [mailto:vlaury@earthlink.net] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 9:11 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Bad Day at the AutoX I thought I was so ready, I prepared last night but still forgot my helmet, my jack handle and my spare shirt. These should have been omens heeded that I was "in for it" for the rest of the day. My runs were terrible. Instead of improving each run, I LOST a 10th each run. The last run, I miss handled a curve before the slalom and got DNF'd! After that, I found out that I pushed the tire off the bead. Talk about your stiff side walls, The BFG R-1's will support the car and not ride the rim. So I pulled out of my "time only" run and went to put on my street wheels. Well, my new Auto X wheels are just a little thinner in the mounting boss, so the lugs bottomed out on the hub and mushroomed. So there was no way to put on my streets. Fortunately I could get the flat replaced with a street. Some things were good though. Dennis showed up with the CDM video camera and got some good stills and videos. I also got to wear the CDM magnetics, So I felt Muy Proffesionally. After lunch I went to Dennis's and helped pull an L motor from a 510 and that went very smooth. So, it wasn't that bad, I still had fun and that's the point right? Hey! I could use some company out there! How about some of you "Armchair Racers" give it a try? Victor 70 SRL 31113136 Los Angeles http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=123073 SoCalROC http://www.ameri-eagle.com/datsun/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 8 15:25:55 2000 From: Marc Tyler To: , "Roadster list" Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 16:31:33 -0500 Subject: Re: test Davesmbox@aol.com wrote >Is the list quiet or do I have a problem? The list is quiet, if you listen carefully you can hear the cybercrickets..... Cold and rainy here in Central Texas today. I wish I had a garage today instead of the carport with the gravel floor. The clutch slave cyl needs rebuilding. Anyone know if the rubber flex hose is still available? -Marc Tyler ========================================================================== Marc Tyler TDROC 1970 1600 #SPL311-31016 1965 L-320 #L320 013642 (the misspent ute) http://datsun_marc.tripod.com/cgi-bin/Datsun_homepage.html Sisterdale TX From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 8 16:01:44 2000 From: R Haug To: Davesmbox@aol.com, Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 15:01:19 -0700 Subject: Re: test Davesmbox@aol.com wrote: > Is the list quiet or do I have a problem? Just quiet! From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 8 18:35:42 2000 From: SPL311RDST@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 20:35:07 EDT Subject: Roadster owner in CT Hello list - online today I ran into a guy in Hartford CT who has some roadsters he's working on. If anyone local out there can lend him a hand/advice, he'd like to hear from ya. He's got a '66 & '70 2000. Richard - rgarre@aol.com Laurie :-) 70 SPL311 69 SRL311 Chandler, AZ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 8 18:57:57 2000 From: "Mike/Chris Clothier" To: "Roadster List" Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 17:56:14 -0700 Subject: rear suspension I have started to redo the rear suspension on my 68 1600. I put on competition springs and KYB gas shocks, however, the shocks don't seem to fit in the bracket connected to the springs. I put the same shocks on my 70 1600 with regular springs and they fit fine. On the 68, the angle seems so sever that I'm not sure the bolt will go on. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. TIA. Mike C. Norco,Ca. --- Mike Clothier --- mclothier@earthlink.net From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 8 19:11:37 2000 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 21:11:04 -0400 Subject: Vin plate and console lock arm needed An off-line OROC'er has almost completed resurrecting a very sad 1968 1600 and is in need of a few more parts to trim it out. I remember lots of talk but did anybody every get around to making the little arm for the lock on the center console? Also looking for a blank VIN tag for under the hood. Ralph has legal title to the car but it came without a VIN plate. Update on the SCCA Nationals at MidOhio; well, ... I would love to give you one but it was rain and snow most of the weekend so my cold and I stayed home. Maybe next year. Paul OROC From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 8 19:28:37 2000 From: To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 20:28:01 -0500 Subject: Hail Speedvision & Runoffs I cannot believe the good fortune we have of being able to watch the Runoffs LIVE on Speedvision! Best thing to happen since they moved it to Mid Ohio. Now maybe they can wise up and move it back to the sunny south and totally revamped and updated Road Atlanta. Anyway I've got about ten hours of tape to pull out this winter to help me through the racing doldrums PS - My buddy Eddie Radatz's car with driver Grayson Upchurch was punted 2 laps from the end after leading 16 of 20 laps in E prod. Just goes to show how competitive an old Z can be after all these years. Chris Brucciani Marietta, GA 1968 2000 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 8 19:52:55 2000 From: Mike Poorboy To: Chris.Brucciani@ercgroup.com Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 18:55:23 -0700 Subject: Re: Hail Speedvision & Runoffs My new boss Mark Jaremko place second in Formula Ford. Mike Nowroc Chris.Brucciani@ercgroup.com wrote: > I cannot believe the good fortune we have of being able to watch the Runoffs > LIVE on Speedvision! Best thing to happen since they moved it to Mid Ohio. > Now maybe they can wise up and move it back to the sunny south and totally > revamped and updated Road Atlanta. Anyway I've got about ten hours of tape > to pull out this winter to help me through the racing doldrums > > PS - My buddy Eddie Radatz's car with driver Grayson Upchurch was punted 2 > laps from the end after leading 16 of 20 laps in E prod. Just goes to show > how competitive an old Z can be after all these years. > > Chris Brucciani > Marietta, GA > 1968 2000 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 8 19:53:07 2000 From: "Adam Fox" To: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net>, Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:49:35 +1000 Subject: Re: Vin plate and console lock arm needed I recently a console lock arm from aluminum plate, was a pretty easy task using hand tools, we'll see how long it lasts..... Adam Fox ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul <9laser3@bright.net> To: Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 11:11 AM Subject: Vin plate and console lock arm needed > An off-line OROC'er has almost completed resurrecting a very sad 1968 1600 > and is in need of a few more parts to trim it out. I remember lots of talk > but did anybody every get around to making the little arm for the lock on > the center console? > Also looking for a blank VIN tag for under the hood. Ralph has legal > title to the car but it came without a VIN plate. > Update on the SCCA Nationals at MidOhio; well, ... I would love to give > you one but it was rain and snow most of the weekend so my cold and I stayed > home. Maybe next year. > > Paul > OROC > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 8 20:48:09 2000 From: Mike Poorboy To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 19:50:47 -0700 Subject: NOWROC T shirts List, We have alot of NOWROC T shirts still available. Robin is willing to work a deal with our original T shirt and one that the printers made a mistake with. It has the same NOWROC Roadster logo on both sides unlike the ones shown on our web site. In other words by one and get a discount on the other one and shipping will be included. Contact Robin at this email address to order. Robin Krause To see the original T shirt go to our web site . http://www.nowroc.com/Webpages/Tshirts.htm Thanks, Mike Nowroc From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 8 20:59:17 2000 From: Daniel E McHatton To: mtyler@hctc.net Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 19:59:59 -0700 Subject: Re: test Yes, the hose is available. I bought one for my '66 1600 from Fairlady Products. A little steep at $24, but what can you do when it comes to rubber parts. Leaky fluids lead to even nastier problems. Not sure about the rebuild kit for the cylinder. Mine was badly corroded, so I replaced it as well. On Sun, 8 Oct 2000 16:31:33 -0500 Marc Tyler writes: > Davesmbox@aol.com wrote > > >Is the list quiet or do I have a problem? > > The list is quiet, if you listen carefully you can hear the > cybercrickets..... > > Cold and rainy here in Central Texas today. I wish I had a garage > today > instead of the carport with the gravel floor. The clutch slave cyl > needs > rebuilding. Anyone know if the rubber flex hose is still available? > > -Marc Tyler > > > > ========================================================================= = > Marc Tyler > TDROC > 1970 1600 #SPL311-31016 > 1965 L-320 #L320 013642 (the misspent ute) > http://datsun_marc.tripod.com/cgi-bin/Datsun_homepage.html > Sisterdale TX > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 8 23:33:08 2000 From: Pamela Pepoy To: Davesmbox@aol.com Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 22:41:08 -0700 Subject: Re: test Your 5 x 5 here Guy Davesmbox@aol.com wrote: > Is the list quiet or do I have a problem? From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 00:00:03 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: Davesmbox@aol.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 01:59:26 EDT Subject: Re: Rear end and 411 oil pan In a message dated 10/8/00 12:46:33 AM !!!First Boot!!!, Davesmbox@aol.com writes: << Anyone have first hand experience with putting a 1600 rear end differential on a 2000. I know on paper it should be faster off the line but is it noticeable in the actual car. >> Hello, I just did the transplant and yes there is a difference. I like it very much but I dont think my rear tires do. Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 09:00:26 2000 From: CarterCM@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:59:27 EDT Subject: Re: Hail Speedvision & Runoffs In a message dated 10/8/00 6:29:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Chris.Brucciani@ercgroup.com writes: << PS - My buddy Eddie Radatz's car with driver Grayson Upchurch was punted 2 laps from the end after leading 16 of 20 laps in E prod. Just goes to show how competitive an old Z can be after all these years. >> FYI...The offending driver was disqualified by SCCA after the race and lost his win...small consolation to Grayson though. Craig Carter From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 09:14:15 2000 From: "Kyle Hagemann" To: "Stephan Sochoux" , Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 08:12:19 -0700 Subject: Broken valve spring saga Hi all- ...recall 'Bad News' then 'Good News?'? My '69 2000 quit running in a horrible ruckus at 6,000RPM. I was absitively posalutley certain that I had destroyed something major; thinking, "oh crud, there's about a grand down the drain." The engine would only barely run, was backfiring and sputtering through one of the carbs, and there was a nasty pinging noise that sounded an awful lot like broken bits bouncing around in the combustion chambers. Pulled the valve cover off, found a broken exhaust valve spring; put out the call to the list, and Stephan Sochoux was good enough to supply me with a freebie. Thanks a bunch, Stephan! I gotcher beer handy, m'man! :-) Put it on there this weekend, kind of a PITA, but doable. Then, cross the ole fingers for luck, and VAAAA-rrrrrooooooooom! Oh boy, like a ten ton weight lifted off my chest. Started right up, ran smooth and strong. Drove it around town a bit on Saturday, then Sunday the wife and I headed out to Bodega Bay for sun and sand. Perfect weather for a roadster run. The only down side to the experience is that I'm afraid to run it up to 6K again:-( Not really a problem, it makes enough juice at 5K, but it's a bummer having a Datsun I can't whoop the stuffin outta. :-] Thanks again, to Stephan in particular, and the list in general! Kyle ____ Kyle Hagemann, Born-Again Grease Monkey From Beyond _.;(____\____ 72 240Z, L28/E88/SU, 5sp, all poly - Z Beast | _ | | _'@`, 71 PL521, LZ22, SUs, 2" exh, 4spd - The Hulk `-(#)------(#)-< 69 2000, next job: exhaust system -Toadster ------------------- 84 Maxima, Tokicos/ST springs, 238K - Mr Max http://www.sonic.net/~kyle http://www.sonic.net/~kyle/cars.html From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 09:33:11 2000 From: "Kyle Hagemann" To: "311" Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 08:31:47 -0700 Subject: Interior stuff ('69) hi gang- After getting my car on the road this weekend, I had to tackle some of the interior stuff. Ewww....;-) I wound up removing the console entirely, and mounting the fan, hazard, and choke switches to a piece of steel attached under the dash. I kinda like the 'new' look, a bit roomier inside. I'm not entirely satisfied yet, though. I'm considering building a console to hold the CD player (currently bolted to the console attachment brackets). Anyone have thoughts on this? I tried my best to patch my defroster ducts with (duhhh;-) duct tape. No dice, the thing is so thrashed it wont even stay put. Are these available from our vendors, and/or does someone have a decent used one they'd like to sell? The heater-control lever no longer levers the heater control. With the console out of the way, I thought I'd be able to pull those levers out for repair; but the harness is in the way. How does one extract those three levers? Through the glovebox? Thanks gang- Kyle and the Toadster From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 10:12:05 2000 From: Alex Avery To: "311" Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 12:09:18 -0400 Subject: Defroster duct dash screen question Kinda related question on heater/defroster ducts. Several of the plastic "tines" on the plastic defroster duct covers on the dash are busted and they look rather shabby now that we had the dash remanufactured. Does anyone have any good alternatives--I'm assuming that any replacement NOS defroster grates would be rather brittle at this point and prone to the same breaks as the ones we have now. I was thinking that a bit of chromed, coarse screening--ie. like chromed hardware cloth-- would make a snazzy alternative if they were secured from the backside of the stock "surround" or a similar method. Has anyone done anything like this before? Suggestions? Alex Avery At 08:31 AM 10/9/00 -0700, Kyle Hagemann wrote: >hi gang- > >After getting my car on the road this weekend, I had to tackle >some of the interior stuff. Ewww....;-) > >I wound up removing the console entirely, and mounting the fan, >hazard, and choke switches to a piece of steel attached under the >dash. I kinda like the 'new' look, a bit roomier inside. I'm >not entirely satisfied yet, though. I'm considering building a >console to hold the CD player (currently bolted to the console >attachment brackets). Anyone have thoughts on this? > >I tried my best to patch my defroster ducts with (duhhh;-) duct >tape. No dice, the thing is so thrashed it wont even stay put. >Are these available from our vendors, and/or does someone have >a decent used one they'd like to sell? > >The heater-control lever no longer levers the heater control. >With the console out of the way, I thought I'd be able to pull >those levers out for repair; but the harness is in the way. How >does one extract those three levers? Through the glovebox? > >Thanks gang- > >Kyle and the Toadster > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 11:24:31 2000 From: "John F Sandhoff" To: "Kyle Hagemann" Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:23:29 -0700 Subject: Re: Interior stuff ('69) Kyle writes: > I tried my best to patch my defroster ducts with (duhhh;-) duct > tape. No dice, the thing is so thrashed it wont even stay put. > Are these available from our vendors, and/or does someone have > a decent used one they'd like to sell? Not long ago they were still available from the dealer. B7040-A3205, "duct - ventilator" > The heater-control lever no longer levers the heater control. Two things to check: First, make sure the heater valve itself isn't stuck. Second, if the valve has been leaking at all, it probably dribbled water down the cable and rusted the steel cable inside the jacket. This freezes the cable. Good luck pulling it apart! I just rebuilt the valve and freed up the cable on my '69. I've now got a good valve and a kinda-working cable. I took pictures and hope to post a blow-by-blow on rebuilding the valve - it only takes two O-rings and a couple new screws! -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 11:48:06 2000 From: "Kyle Hagemann" To: Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:46:35 -0700 Subject: Re: Interior stuff ('69) > Kyle writes: > > I tried my best to patch my defroster ducts with (duhhh;-) duct > > tape. No dice, the thing is so thrashed it wont even stay put. > > Are these available from our vendors, and/or does someone have > > a decent used one they'd like to sell? > > Not long ago they were still available from the dealer. > B7040-A3205, "duct - ventilator" Thanks John! > > The heater-control lever no longer levers the heater control. > > Two things to check: First, make sure the heater valve itself isn't > stuck. Second, if the valve has been leaking at all, it probably > dribbled water down the cable and rusted the steel cable inside the > jacket. This freezes the cable. Good luck pulling it apart! > > I just rebuilt the valve and freed up the cable on my '69. I've now got > a good valve and a kinda-working cable. I took pictures and hope to > post a blow-by-blow on rebuilding the valve - it only takes two O-rings > and a couple new screws! Sorry, I wasn't awake when I typed that! The cable is no longer attached to the control lever. Pretty lame of me not to be clear, sorry;-) So I'll need to get the levers out of there, probably redrill and/or otherwise fix things up. But Arrrgh! I can't figure out how to get those three levers out. Thanks- Kyle Datsuns up the wazoo From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 11:51:44 2000 From: Stephan Sochoux To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:51:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Polishing trick ? Well, you learn something everyday! http://www.doityourself.com/auto/toothpastepolish.htm Add a fresh scent to your roadster! :) Stephan '69 2000 BADROC __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 12:05:20 2000 From: "Robin Krause" To: foxy@pipeline.com.au, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 18:04:33 GMT Subject: Re: thanks Adam, who did you buy the parts from? > > >Just a note to say that I just recieved my > > headlight bezels from one of the > > >US list members, and im very happy with them. This > > restoration would have > > >been much more difficult if it weren't for the help > > from you guys. Thanks. > > > > > >Adam Fox > > >(from down under) > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 13:08:51 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: sochoux@yahoo.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 15:08:11 EDT Subject: Re: Polishing trick ? Since toothpaste stops pitting on teeth (cavities) will it do the same for chrome? ;-) Sid >From: Stephan Sochoux >Reply-To: Stephan Sochoux >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Polishing trick ? >Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:51:19 -0700 (PDT) > >Well, you learn something everyday! > >http://www.doityourself.com/auto/toothpastepolish.htm > >Add a fresh scent to your roadster! :) > >Stephan >'69 2000 BADROC > >__________________________________________________ >Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! >http://photos.yahoo.com/ _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 13:59:32 2000 From: R Haug To: Kyle Hagemann , Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 12:59:03 -0700 Subject: Re: Broken valve spring saga Kyle Hagemann wrote: > The only down side to the experience is that I'm afraid to run it up to > 6K again:-( Not really a problem, it makes enough juice at 5K, but it's > a bummer having a Datsun I can't whoop the stuffin outta. :-] Kyle, It is time to save up for a new set of valve springs for your car. Then you may have peace of mind back again. However, anything can let go when you get the revs up. Bob From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 15:11:05 2000 From: "Daniel Beatty" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 14:10:10 PDT Subject: Portland 2000 For Sale Tom Householder is selling his 69 2000. Check out the NOWROC site for details. http://www.nowroc.com/Webpages/TomHouse/index.htm Daniel Beatty 65 1600 _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 15:14:19 2000 From: "Kyle Hagemann" To: , Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 14:12:38 -0700 Subject: Re: Broken valve spring saga > Kyle Hagemann wrote: > > > The only down side to the experience is that I'm afraid to run it up to > > 6K again:-( Not really a problem, it makes enough juice at 5K, but it's > > a bummer having a Datsun I can't whoop the stuffin outta. :-] > > Kyle, > It is time to save up for a new set of valve springs for your car. > Then you may have peace of mind back again. > However, anything can let go when you get the revs up. > Bob Thanks, Bob. I just keep having flashbacks to how incredibly stupid I felt when it let go. Ya know, why in God's name did I have to twist the little fella so badly. B'sides, the 240Z is good for speedthrills, I just need to learn to control myself. Or, as my bride puts it, "why does everything have to be a race car?!" Kyle '72 240Z, L28, all poly suspension, 15x7" wheels, on it goes '71 PL521, stock, but with a big honkin LZ22 w/SUs '69 2000, knock on wood:-) From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 15:23:03 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 14:22:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: 15 min = ~20hp gain!!!! for real!!!!! Hello All, I've got another 'learn by Daniels mistakes' story for you. For a while now I've had this 2000 solex car with the fancy 4.11LSD. I have never been very happy with the perfomance. Ken and and Mike could just walk away from me in their solex-mobiles. All this time there is a little voice in my head saying.. you paid all this money for a 'fast' roadster and you got screwed!!. I checked the timing, the compression the carbs they all seem to be working well-got the fancy free flowing exhaust..but still when I stomp on the gas the car just did not pick up speed fast enough...They lately its been running weeker than usual. Finally I found out what was wrong!!!!!!!!! This weekend I was replacing the fuel lines and noticed that the 1 spark plug wire was loose.. in fact it was not really plugged in at all. I got the fancy MSD wires from Ross and 3 out of the 4 lock VERY positively to the plug but this one just doesn't don't know what I did wrong.. Well bam my car is now running way better than before (duh). But this was only the cause of the recent decrease in performance. Here's the answer to the mystery of the slow roadster...CARPET!!!!!!!! Carpet and padding!!!!!!!!!! I must of installed the driver side carpet badly-maybe its the po's fault who knows. BUt there was a good 3/4 inch of stuff between the pedal and the stop!!!! When I was stomping on the gass I was losing the last bit of throttle!!! Man I am so LAME sometimes. Now the car goes like stink...I mean it REALLY GOES!!!!!!!! And its not just my imagination either Irene noticed it to-so it must be true!!! WOW it feels so nice to have a REAL roadster. I tell ya was getting just a bit dis-enchanted with the whole thing...but not anymore!!!! DAniel 69 2000 SF CA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 16:05:40 2000 From: PLETCH5@aol.com To: dneuman@stars.sfsu.edu, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 18:04:54 EDT Subject: Re: 15 min = ~20hp gain!!!! for real!!!!! But we still have to see if your faster then Michael and I.;') Ken DATSTER From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 16:14:40 2000 From: "Laury, Victor" To: "'Daniel Neuman'" , Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 15:13:31 -0700 Subject: RE: 15 min = ~20hp gain!!!! for real!!!!! >But there was a good 3/4 inch of stuff between the pedal and the stop! When I was stomping on the gas I was losing the last bit of throttle! DAniel 69 2000 SF CA Seriously, This is a good test for every one to perform. There's a lot of reasons for you throtle not to be opening all the way, loose cable, loose pedal pivot, obstructions under the pedal. To test is easy and should be done whenever you have a mystery power loss. with the engine off, have someone step down on the pedal while you see if the linkages have opened completely. In my case, my pedal pivot was loose. Victor 70 SRL 31113136 Los Angeles http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=123073 SoCalROC http://www.ameri-eagle.com/datsun/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 16:17:29 2000 From: "Eric R. Wittinger" To: Datsun Roadster Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 15:17:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Autocross pics. Hi List, Here are a few pictures of me autocrossing this past season. There are a few shots of my 67.5 race car and some with me and my street car. http://www.ee.pdx.edu/~wittiner/autocross.html ERW From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 16:35:29 2000 From: "Kyle Hagemann" To: "Laury, Victor" , Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 15:33:50 -0700 Subject: Re: 15 min = ~20hp gain!!!! for real!!!!! > >But there was a good 3/4 inch of stuff between the pedal and the stop! When > I was stomping on the gas I was losing the > last bit of throttle! DAniel 69 2000 SF CA > > Seriously, This is a good test for every one to perform. There's a lot of > reasons for you throtle not to be opening all the way, loose cable, loose > pedal pivot, obstructions under the pedal. To test is easy and should be > done whenever you have a mystery power loss. with the engine off, have > someone step down on the pedal while you see if the linkages have opened > completely. In my case, my pedal pivot was loose. > > Victor Hey guys- did you know that the throttle opening TOO FAR can cause similar symptoms? In my case, I had PO/anti-PO madness afoot. No throttle stop screw when I got the car; this let the throttle open too far, which made the engine peter out at high RPM (sound familiar?;-) I put a screw in there, which helped. Then, last month when I got it running again, I said to myself, "What the Hell?! Who put this longass screw under here? No wonder the car won't go!" Took the screw out. Said, hmm... that screw *does* look familiar, somehow.... And back again was my mysterious high-rev dieout. Sheesh:-) Yesterday, I reset the linkage, and lengthened the arm from the cable bellcrank to the carb linkage. ...best part is, I'm too chicken to see if it fixed anything! Just call me: Kyle "5K Redline" Hagemann From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 16:35:31 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: PLETCH5@aol.com Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 15:34:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: 15 min = ~20hp gain!!!! for real!!!!! Now you know Ken, Racing your car is not very fair... its basicallly a stripped down light weight for the street!. Which my car definately is not. Daniel 69 2000 SF CA > But we still have to see if your faster then Michael and I.;') > > > Ken > DATSTER > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 16:47:11 2000 From: "Ryan, Richard" To: "'Daniel Neuman'" , Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 15:48:38 -0700 Subject: RE: 15 min = ~20hp gain!!!! for real!!!!! A friend hadn't checked this throttle for years when he saw me looking down the carb with my wife pushing the peddle. He asked what we were doing and nodded when I told him we were making sure the throttle plate was wide open. He went back to his Vee and found he only had 3/4 throttle for 3 or 4 years (it was easy to beat him). He fixed it. At the start of the race that afternoon he went off at the first turn because he went in a lot faster than before. If you are interested here is a copy of my prerace work list. It is for a Formula Vee but most of it is good for any type of racecar. If you have questions, let me know. PRE-RACE CHECK LIST ADJUST BRAKES TORQUE WHEELS ADJUST VALVES CHECK TAIL LIGHT CHECK TIMING TRAILER TIRE PRESSURE CHECK DWELL SCCA ROLLBAR PAD PLUG GAP .025" REAR CAMBER -1ş TIGHTEN NUTS & BOLTS FAN BELT TENSION FAN BELT ALIGNMENT HALON FULL ENGINE OIL TRANS OIL THROTTLE WIDE OPEN GAS IN CAR GAS IN JUGS CHARGE BATTERY BRAKE & CLUTCH FLUID CLUTCH FREE PLAY TAPE COOLING TINS CSRG PLASTIC ON BATTERY MOUNT BATTERY SIDE COVERS CHECK HITCH BALL COVER EXHAUST Dick Ryan ex. 24022 (650)312-4022 Risk Management Dept. SM 2000/2 FAX (650)312-5830 -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Neuman [mailto:dneuman@stars.sfsu.edu] Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 2:23 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net performance. Here's the answer to the mystery of the slow roadster...CARPET!!!!!!!! Carpet and padding!!!!!!!!!! I must of installed the driver side carpet badly-maybe its the po's fault who knows. BUt there was a good 3/4 inch of stuff between the pedal and the stop!!!! When I was stomping on the gass I was losing the last bit of throttle!!! Man I am so LAME sometimes. Now the car goes like stink...I mean it REALLY GOES!!!!!!!! And its not just my imagination either Irene noticed it to-so it must be true!!! WOW it feels so nice to have a REAL roadster. I tell ya was getting just a bit dis-enchanted with the whole thing...but not anymore!!!! DAniel 69 2000 SF CA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 16:50:01 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: dneuman@stars.sfsu.edu, PLETCH5@aol.com Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 18:48:51 EDT Subject: Re: 15 min = ~20hp gain!!!! for real!!!!! In a message dated 10/9/00 3:37:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dneuman@stars.sfsu.edu writes: << Racing your car is not very fair... its basicallly a stripped down light weight for the street!. Which my car definately is not. >> I am not stripped down. Btw... Ken. Are you interested in a track day at Sears Point in November with my race club? Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 16:53:31 2000 From: Marc Tyler To: "Roadster list" Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:59:11 -0500 Subject: Now, here's a REAL car om Ebay Be sure to read the description! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=446592450 ========================================================================== Marc Tyler TDROC 1970 1600 #SPL311-31016 1965 L-320 #L320 013642 (the misspent ute) http://datsun_marc.tripod.com/cgi-bin/Datsun_homepage.html Sisterdale TX From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 17:12:47 2000 From: Mark Dent To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 19:09:33 -0400 Subject: Interior Kit here! All, My interior kit is here! Many thanks to Classic Datsun! This weekend I will start the stripping of the car to prepare for the body shop. Hopefully next spring I will have a Black Roadster with Red interior (68). Then I will start on the 67 2000!! Wish me luck!! Mark Baltimore 1968 1600 1967 2000 http://www.datsunroadsters.com http://www.roadster.org From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 17:51:31 2000 From: Chris Robertson To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:01:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: 15 min = ~20hp gain!!!! for real!!!!! Yep, the carpet will slide over that pedal stop if not firmly attached to the floorboard. Speaking of the pedal stop, make sure it is adjusted correctly. My gas pedal has so much slop in it (where it connects to the cross linkage) that I removed the stop entirely in order to get full throttle. Chris Robertson TX 2 '69 2000s '96 Miata M --- Daniel Neuman wrote: > Here's the answer to the mystery of the slow > roadster...CARPET!!!!!!!! Carpet > and padding!!!!!!!!!! I must of installed the > driver side carpet badly-maybe > its the po's fault who knows. BUt there was a good > 3/4 inch of stuff between > the pedal and the stop!!!! > > DAniel 69 2000 > SF CA > __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 18:12:23 2000 From: PLETCH5@aol.com To: dneuman@stars.sfsu.edu Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 20:11:40 EDT Subject: Re: 15 min = ~20hp gain!!!! for real!!!!! I had to lighten the car to make up for my fat @ss. Ken DATSTER From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 18:17:05 2000 From: "Andrew Murphy" To: stickerman@home.com Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 17:16:36 PDT Subject: Re: Interior Kit here! Mark et. Al, I am also planning to have a black car with a red interior. Got my interior kit this last weekend from CDM as well! Guess Les has been moving the red interior kits lately! Just a personal opinion here, but the black car with red interior just looks so cool.... Andrew Murphy 67 2000 Solex SoCalROC >From: Mark Dent >Reply-To: Mark Dent >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Interior Kit here! >Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 19:09:33 -0400 > >All, > >My interior kit is here! Many thanks to Classic Datsun! This weekend I >will start the stripping of the car to prepare for the body >shop. Hopefully next spring I will have a Black Roadster with Red interior >(68). Then I will start on the 67 2000!! Wish me luck!! >Mark >Baltimore >1968 1600 >1967 2000 >http://www.datsunroadsters.com >http://www.roadster.org > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 18:39:17 2000 From: Hoon Kim To: "Andrew Murphy" , stickerman@home.com Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:38:49 -0700 Subject: Re: Interior Kit here! what about a silver w/ red interior. I've been pondering..... At 5:16 PM -0700 10/9/00, Andrew Murphy wrote: >Mark et. Al, > >I am also planning to have a black car with a red interior. Got my interior >kit this last weekend from CDM as well! Guess Les has been moving the red >interior kits lately! > >Just a personal opinion here, but the black car with red interior just looks >so cool.... > >Andrew Murphy >67 2000 Solex >SoCalROC > > >>From: Mark Dent >>Reply-To: Mark Dent >>To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >>Subject: Interior Kit here! >>Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 19:09:33 -0400 >> >>All, >> >>My interior kit is here! Many thanks to Classic Datsun! This weekend I >>will start the stripping of the car to prepare for the body >>shop. Hopefully next spring I will have a Black Roadster with Red interior >>(68). Then I will start on the 67 2000!! Wish me luck!! >>Mark >>Baltimore >>1968 1600 >>1967 2000 >>http://www.datsunroadsters.com >>http://www.roadster.org >> > >_________________________________________________________________________ -- - Hoon Kim - x6184 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 19:42:27 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: PLETCH5@aol.com, dneuman@stars.sfsu.edu Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 21:41:30 EDT Subject: Re: 15 min = ~20hp gain!!!! for real!!!!! Hey, I resemble that remark!! ;-) Sid >From: PLETCH5@aol.com >Reply-To: PLETCH5@aol.com >To: dneuman@stars.sfsu.edu >CC: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Re: 15 min = ~20hp gain!!!! for real!!!!! >Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 20:11:40 EDT > >I had to lighten the car to make up for my fat @ss. > > > Ken >DATSTER _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 19:45:24 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: hoon@pixar.com, solex67@hotmail.com, stickerman@home.com Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 21:44:26 EDT Subject: Re: Interior Kit here! That is the nice thing about Greg's and Mike's web sites. You can shop color combinations without guessing! Sid >From: Hoon Kim >Reply-To: Hoon Kim >To: "Andrew Murphy" , stickerman@home.com >CC: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Re: Interior Kit here! >Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:38:49 -0700 > >what about a silver w/ red interior. I've been pondering..... > > > >At 5:16 PM -0700 10/9/00, Andrew Murphy wrote: > >Mark et. Al, > > > >I am also planning to have a black car with a red interior. Got my >interior > >kit this last weekend from CDM as well! Guess Les has been moving the red > >interior kits lately! > > > >Just a personal opinion here, but the black car with red interior just >looks > >so cool.... > > > >Andrew Murphy > >67 2000 Solex > >SoCalROC > > > > > >>From: Mark Dent > >>Reply-To: Mark Dent > >>To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > >>Subject: Interior Kit here! > >>Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 19:09:33 -0400 > >> > >>All, > >> > >>My interior kit is here! Many thanks to Classic Datsun! This weekend I > >>will start the stripping of the car to prepare for the body > >>shop. Hopefully next spring I will have a Black Roadster with Red >interior > >>(68). Then I will start on the 67 2000!! Wish me luck!! > >>Mark > >>Baltimore > >>1968 1600 > >>1967 2000 > >>http://www.datsunroadsters.com > >>http://www.roadster.org > >> > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >-- >- Hoon Kim >- x6184 _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 19:45:59 2000 From: R Haug To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 18:45:17 -0700 Subject: Re: Interior Kit here! Andrew Murphy wrote: > Just a personal opinion here, but the black car with red interior just looks > so cool.... I couldn't agree with you more!! :-) Bob 67.5 with 2L Idaho From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 19:50:54 2000 From: Russell Southwell To: datsun roadster mailist Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 20:45:08 -0700 Subject: [Fwd: 1967 SPLU Overheating Problem] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------C42862C3301796508789BE60 ideas any one? Russ Southwell --------------C42862C3301796508789BE60 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f286.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.164]) by wintermute.cityscape.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA30266 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 16:26:31 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 14:25:47 -0700 Received: from 208.216.156.113 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 08 Oct 2000 21:25:47 GMT X-Originating-IP: [208.216.156.113] From: "stan johnson" To: rulee@cityscape.net Cc: mgmaniac@hotmail.com Subject: 1967 SPLU Overheating Problem Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 16:25:47 CDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Oct 2000 21:25:47.0800 (UTC) FILETIME=[532D1180:01C0316E] X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 I hope you can help.I have tried a new waterpump,re-cored radiator 6 new thermostats,an electric fan,flushed the sustem,and opened the block plug at the rear of the engine which ran fast and free.I am losing a small amount of coolant,no coolant in oil,and no white smoke coming from tailpipe at least none i can tell.I think it may be a leaking head gasket but i need someone with more knoledge and experience with these cars than i have.Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. _________________________________________________________________________ --------------C42862C3301796508789BE60-- From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 20:09:28 2000 From: weisner To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 01:07:09 -0700 Subject: Re: Broken valve spring saga There are only two kinds of cars: race cars and convertables. Anything else is just an appliance. Kurt Weisner > Or, as my bride puts it, "why does everything have to be a race car?!" > > Kyle > '72 240Z, L28, all poly suspension, 15x7" wheels, on it goes > '71 PL521, stock, but with a big honkin LZ22 w/SUs > '69 2000, knock on wood:-) From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 20:11:05 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: rulee@cityscape.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 22:10:26 EDT Subject: Re: [Fwd: 1967 SPLU Overheating Problem] boundary="------------C42862C3301796508789BE60" Russ, Stan does not mention the Radiator cap. That is the next piece of the puzzle. Sid >From: Russell Southwell >Reply-To: Russell Southwell >To: datsun roadster mailist >Subject: [Fwd: 1967 SPLU Overheating Problem] >boundary="------------C42862C3301796508789BE60" >Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 20:45:08 -0700 > >This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >--------------C42862C3301796508789BE60 > >ideas any one? >Russ Southwell > >--------------C42862C3301796508789BE60 >Content-Disposition: inline > >Return-Path: >Received: from hotmail.com (f286.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.164]) > by wintermute.cityscape.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA30266 > for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 16:26:31 -0500 >Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; > Sun, 8 Oct 2000 14:25:47 -0700 >Received: from 208.216.156.113 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with >HTTP; Sun, 08 Oct 2000 21:25:47 GMT >X-Originating-IP: [208.216.156.113] >From: "stan johnson" >To: rulee@cityscape.net >Cc: mgmaniac@hotmail.com >Subject: 1967 SPLU Overheating Problem >Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 16:25:47 CDT >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Message-ID: >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Oct 2000 21:25:47.0800 (UTC) >FILETIME=[532D1180:01C0316E] >X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 > >I hope you can help.I have tried a new waterpump,re-cored radiator 6 new >thermostats,an electric fan,flushed the sustem,and opened the block plug at >the rear of the engine which ran fast and free.I am losing a small amount >of >coolant,no coolant in oil,and no white smoke coming from tailpipe at least >none i can tell.I think it may be a leaking head gasket but i need someone >with more knoledge and experience with these cars than i have.Thanks in >advance for any help you can give me. >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > > >--------------C42862C3301796508789BE60-- > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 20:36:51 2000 From: Russell Southwell To: "Ryan, Richard" Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 21:30:39 -0700 Subject: Re: 15 min = ~20hp gain!!!! for real!!!!! Double check the hitch ball!! Russ (gee that trailer that just passed me looks familliar) Southwell 70 1600 "Ryan, Richard" wrote: > A friend hadn't checked this throttle for years when he saw me looking down > the carb with my wife pushing the peddle. He asked what we were doing and > nodded when I told him we were making sure the throttle plate was wide open. > He went back to his Vee and found he only had 3/4 throttle for 3 or 4 years > (it was easy to beat him). He fixed it. At the start of the race that > afternoon he went off at the first turn because he went in a lot faster than > before. > > If you are interested here is a copy of my prerace work list. It is for a > Formula Vee but most of it is good for any type of racecar. If you have > questions, let me know. > > PRE-RACE CHECK LIST > > ADJUST BRAKES TORQUE WHEELS > ADJUST VALVES CHECK TAIL LIGHT > CHECK TIMING TRAILER TIRE PRESSURE > CHECK DWELL SCCA ROLLBAR PAD > PLUG GAP .025" > REAR CAMBER -1ş > TIGHTEN NUTS & BOLTS > FAN BELT TENSION > FAN BELT ALIGNMENT > HALON FULL > ENGINE OIL > TRANS OIL > THROTTLE WIDE OPEN > GAS IN CAR > GAS IN JUGS > CHARGE BATTERY > BRAKE & CLUTCH FLUID > CLUTCH FREE PLAY > TAPE COOLING TINS > CSRG PLASTIC ON BATTERY > MOUNT BATTERY > SIDE COVERS > CHECK HITCH BALL > COVER EXHAUST > > Dick Ryan ex. 24022 > (650)312-4022 > Risk Management Dept. > SM 2000/2 > FAX (650)312-5830 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Neuman [mailto:dneuman@stars.sfsu.edu] > Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 2:23 PM > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > performance. > Here's the answer to the mystery of the slow roadster...CARPET!!!!!!!! > Carpet > and padding!!!!!!!!!! I must of installed the driver side carpet > badly-maybe > its the po's fault who knows. BUt there was a good 3/4 inch of stuff > between > the pedal and the stop!!!! When I was stomping on the gass I was losing the > last bit of throttle!!! Man I am so LAME sometimes. Now the car goes like > stink...I mean it REALLY GOES!!!!!!!! And its not just my imagination > either Irene noticed it to-so it must be true!!! > WOW it feels so nice to have a REAL roadster. I tell ya was getting > just a bit dis-enchanted with the whole thing...but not anymore!!!! > > DAniel 69 2000 > SF CA > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 20:48:24 2000 From: Steve Allen To: Datsun Roadster Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 19:53:01 -0700 Subject: Parts for Sale I have quite a few odds and ends lying around and would like to get rid of them. I wanted to give the list first shot at them before I put them on Ebay. If any one is interested, please email me off list. I will ship UPS. I can provide pictures if interested but I must fore warn you my camera is a cheap one. Late(high windshield) soft top frame-good bow-some assembly required- comes with latches- $100.00 Late(high windshield) soft top frame and top-top has a few minor tears but is still serviceable-latches included-$175.00 Brand new dash cover by Vacuform for late roadster-includes adhesive-68-70-$60.00 After market clutch for 1600-pressure plate-disc & throw out bearing-$75.00 1600 Air Cleaner assembly-bead blasted- missing one of the wing nuts-$40.00 Package self tie down straps-used-$20.00 Late model turn signal switch-used-$10.00 Bumper over riders- 3 in excellent shape-one needs rechromed-$35.00 Rubber strips that go under wing windows 68-70-left & right-new$10.00 '66 roadster seats-well worn-surface rust on frames and slides-good for a re-cover job.$75.00 67.5 1600 steering wheel and horn button-missing rubber ring-$20.00 '68 center console and 4 speed shift plate. Missing lock-I've seen worse-$45.00 1600 radiator-good for upper & lower tank and brackets only-$25.00 Used 1600 radiator fan shroud-$20.00 Rear bumper-has a few dings-surface rust-could be fixed and rechromed-$30.00 '68 left front fender-no major bondo-does need some work-$90.00 '68 right front fender-little bondo-no major rust outs-$90.00 Right rear quarter panel(passenger side) no rust-good panel-$75.00 Metal fan blades 2 sets-$10.00 a set Thanks...... Steve Allen RP, CA 67.5 Sroked 2 Liter 66 1600 dumpdude@pon.net From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 21:44:36 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: RRyan@frk.com, dneuman@stars.sfsu.edu, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 23:43:51 EDT Subject: Re: 15 min = ~20hp gain!!!! for real!!!!! In a message dated 10/9/00 3:49:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, RRyan@frk.com writes: << If you are interested here is a copy of my prerace work list. It is for a Formula Vee but most of it is good for any type of racecar. >> Hello... Thats is a great list. I too have been compiling a pre-race list. Adding alittle more each time. You list will help me considerably. Hey Victor... you reading this. Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 21:50:47 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: PLETCH5@aol.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 23:50:08 EDT Subject: Re: 15 min = ~20hp gain!!!! for real!!!!! In a message dated 10/9/00 5:10:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, PLETCH5 writes: << If they dont I wouldnt go,the one time I did drive at Sears point the instructor was really helpfull. Let me know what day it is. >> Hello... There are instructors there and usually they are reserved for members and not guests. Of course there will probably be spots open for guests and there is a nominal fee as well. But wouldnt it be great for both of us to blast around the course together? I hear that the Mini Cooper that I torn apart will be back. Wanna piece of him? He told me that he has upgraded his suspension with alot of goodies. Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 21:51:55 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: solex67@hotmail.com, stickerman@home.com Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 23:51:15 EDT Subject: Re: Interior Kit here! In a message dated 10/9/00 5:18:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time, solex67@hotmail.com writes: << Guess Les has been moving the red interior kits lately! >> Yeah... hey Les. Did I start the trend with my strange color combo? Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 22:06:13 2000 From: "Charles Hubbard" To: "Datsun Roadster Mailing List \(E-mail\)" Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 23:02:44 -0500 Subject: K & N Filters Does anyone on the list have any experience with K & N high performance air filters or know if they make a filter that will fit a roadster? I know...fat chance but worth a shot. Charlie 1964 SPL310 Charles Hubbard Flower Mound, TX http://members.home.net/cehubbard/tdroc/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 22:41:10 2000 From: Daniel E McHatton To: daniel_beatty@hotmail.com Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 21:42:13 -0700 Subject: Re: Portland 2000 For Sale Nice car. How did he get the beauty rings to fit on the stock wheels? On Mon, 09 Oct 2000 14:10:10 PDT "Daniel Beatty" writes: > > Tom Householder is selling his 69 2000. Check out the NOWROC site > for > details. > > http://www.nowroc.com/Webpages/TomHouse/index.htm > > Daniel Beatty > 65 1600 > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 9 23:38:22 2000 From: "Pam & Paul Bauman" To: "Roadster List" Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 22:34:50 -0700 Subject: heater hoses Getting a lot done on the interior and the engine (whenever i get addled by the glue fumes!). Got a quick question, though. Heater hose connections. Where to where? All right, students! Close your books, it's time for a matching quiz: I've got pics, but they're all confusing. anyone got a diagram as to how these things connect? Paul Bauman Westminster, CA 67 1600 http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=881168&a=6499541 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 10 01:20:11 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 03:19:14 EDT Subject: BADROC BBQ Hello, Just a quick note to advise those who missed the BADROC BBQ that it was an incredible day. We had a wonderful location and BBQ located next to a wall of trees and brush. We were joined by 10 Datsun Roadsters as well as a few other marques that felt they wanted to be in the company of our friendly Datsuns. No problem... we except British cars in our area. Everyone brought food. The Korean BBQ Ribs were fantastic. Thx Hoon! So was the other many types of foods that arrived that day. Our cars were displayed rather than lined up like the other 500+ cars at the show. We parked our Roadsters in a visually friendly way so that the many admirers could walk around and see each one in its glory. We also had a special guest appear. Bill Wessel, a familiar name from this List was there with his Roadster. What a surprise! There were so many classic cars that day. It was almost like stepping back 40 or so years. (As if I would know) Many standout car clubs were present. The Domestic clubs... of course. But there was also a Volvo club and others. Everybody seemed to enjoy the day. No snooty behavior that I could tell. Just a bunch of car enthusiasts. I hope that more folks will consider attending next year. You wont regret it. Please see the attached pics of the show. http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=41965&Auth=false Take care, Michael "Calspeed" Carion BADROC From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 10 06:34:16 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: cehubbard@home.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:33:37 EDT Subject: Re: K & N Filters All, I sent a note to K&N a while back to find out if they made any of the 3 filters to fit roadsters. They do not, but they could tool up to make a run if there were enough orders. I have the phone number/name of the person there that they suggested that I call. Unfortunately, other things have precluded me from calling. Personally, I would like to have one of each (1500/1600, 2000 solex, 2000 su) air cleaner type made by K&N. Sid >From: "Charles Hubbard" >Reply-To: "Charles Hubbard" >To: "Datsun Roadster Mailing List \(E-mail\)" > >Subject: K & N Filters >Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 23:02:44 -0500 > >Does anyone on the list have any experience with K & N high performance air >filters or know if they make a filter that will fit a roadster? I >know...fat >chance but worth a shot. > >Charlie >1964 SPL310 >Charles Hubbard >Flower Mound, TX >http://members.home.net/cehubbard/tdroc/ > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 10 07:58:10 2000 From: "Ben Zech" To: spl310@hotmail.com, cehubbard@home.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:57:27 GMT Subject: Re: K & N Filters I found a K&N in one of the parts cars I bought. The PO had taken an off the shelf "round' K&N that was equal in size and shaped it to fit the box in the roadster. These filters are very flexible and it worked well. BZ >From: "sidney raper" >Reply-To: "sidney raper" >To: cehubbard@home.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Re: K & N Filters >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:33:37 EDT > >All, > >I sent a note to K&N a while back to find out if they made any of the 3 >filters to fit roadsters. They do not, but they could tool up to make a >run >if there were enough orders. I have the phone number/name of the person >there that they suggested that I call. Unfortunately, other things have >precluded me from calling. > >Personally, I would like to have one of each (1500/1600, 2000 solex, 2000 >su) air cleaner type made by K&N. > >Sid > > > >From: "Charles Hubbard" > >Reply-To: "Charles Hubbard" > >To: "Datsun Roadster Mailing List \(E-mail\)" > > > >Subject: K & N Filters > >Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 23:02:44 -0500 > > > >Does anyone on the list have any experience with K & N high performance >air > >filters or know if they make a filter that will fit a roadster? I > >know...fat > >chance but worth a shot. > > > >Charlie > >1964 SPL310 > >Charles Hubbard > >Flower Mound, TX > >http://members.home.net/cehubbard/tdroc/ > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 10 08:03:54 2000 From: STAN CHERNOFF To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 07:05:59 -0700 Subject: They're after our cars again! WARNING! The headline today in my local California "Fishwrap" newspaper said: "SMOG CHECK PROGRAM FACES OVERHAUL". The first paragraph said that the California Inspection and Maintenance Review Committee will will recommend reinstatement of testing on the 800,000 cars in the state built between 1966 and 1973. They refer to these cars as "Smog-belching clunkers". Mr. Dennis DeCota, a member of the committee, is quoted as saying "The most asinine thing bureaucrats did was to give up our right to test those older vehicles" Please keep in mind that Mr. DeCota is the executive director of the California Service Station and Automotive Repair Association. Could there be a conflict of interest for financial reward??? We need to get the word out and contact our state legislators to gird against the proposed attempt to confiscate our cars. They are also proposing hidden remote sensors on the street that would measure emissions and photograph license plates so that big brother could summon the owner to a state approved test station. They are also considering a plan to "Make Offers" to buy polluters, another semi-confiscation technique. If state Senator Quentin Kopp is still in office, please contact him because he championed S.B. 42 that got us the needed relief. We need an organized effort to thwart this confiscation effort. Please do what you can to spread the word to people involved with old and collectible cars. If we wait too long before acting then we may be too late! Stan Chernoff Torrance, CA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 10 08:35:22 2000 From: "Terry and Donna Cost" To: "Datsun Roadsters" Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:03:11 -0500 Subject: coolant loss First of all, are you overheating or are you just losing coolant? How much is small? A quart a day? 50cc"s a month? A pint a tankfull? Is your carpet wet, and/or is the heater 100% OK? Are there little bubbles in the coolant when you run the engine without the radiator cap? If it is not overheating, have you pressurized a cold system for an extended period of time? An hour or two under pressure may show a small leak externally (manifold gasket, hoses, carb heater, gasket mating surfaces, etc. ) Have you done a leakdown check of the cylinders? You may find the pinhole with that. The big 3" thick Chiltons (or other) manuals have good generic troubleshooting procedures for any car. Do the procedures IN ORDER and you will find your problem. It may cost you a bit of money, but you've already spent time and money and haven't found the problem. A friend of mine just carries a jug or two of water and replaces as necessary, figuring the water is cheaper than the alternative. Leisure Suit Terry From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 10 10:05:08 2000 From: "David A. Fox" To: mtyler@hctc.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:04:31 EDT Subject: Re: Now, here's a REAL car om Ebay Interesting that it describes an 'all-plastic body'. The models I saw while visiting East Germany (before the wall came down) had wooden bodies. No rust but you had to be concerned with wood eating pests - termites, carpenter ants, etc.. BS&CW, DAFox ----Original Message Follows---- From: Marc Tyler Reply-To: Marc Tyler To: "Roadster list" Subject: Now, here's a REAL car om Ebay Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:59:11 -0500 Be sure to read the description! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=446592450 ========================================================================== Marc Tyler TDROC 1970 1600 #SPL311-31016 1965 L-320 #L320 013642 (the misspent ute) http://datsun_marc.tripod.com/cgi-bin/Datsun_homepage.html Sisterdale TX _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 10 10:22:32 2000 From: "Ryan, Richard" To: "'sidney raper'" , cehubbard@home.com, Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:23:51 -0700 Subject: RE: K & N Filters FYI Each K&N for the Webers on my Super 7 was $50. Dick Ryan ex. 24022 (650)312-4022 Risk Management Dept. SM 2000/2 FAX (650)312-5830 -----Original Message----- From: sidney raper [mailto:spl310@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:34 AM To: cehubbard@home.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: K & N Filters All, I sent a note to K&N a while back to find out if they made any of the 3 filters to fit roadsters. They do not, but they could tool up to make a run if there were enough orders. I have the phone number/name of the person there that they suggested that I call. Unfortunately, other things have precluded me from calling. Personally, I would like to have one of each (1500/1600, 2000 solex, 2000 su) air cleaner type made by K&N. Sid >From: "Charles Hubbard" >Reply-To: "Charles Hubbard" >To: "Datsun Roadster Mailing List \(E-mail\)" > >Subject: K & N Filters >Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 23:02:44 -0500 > >Does anyone on the list have any experience with K & N high performance air >filters or know if they make a filter that will fit a roadster? I >know...fat >chance but worth a shot. > >Charlie >1964 SPL310 >Charles Hubbard >Flower Mound, TX >http://members.home.net/cehubbard/tdroc/ > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 10 11:20:11 2000 From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:19:26 -0700 Subject: Re: They're after our cars again! Mr. De Cota's statement seems especially self-serving in light of the following statement, a direct quote from the Executive Summary of the IMRC (Inspection Maintenance Review Committee) "Smog Check II Evaluation" report: "Pre-1974 model year vehicles that are currently exempt from the Enhanced Program account for 4% to 8% of on-road tailpipe emissions, depending on the pollutant. Non-tailpipe (evaporative) HC emissions were not measured for this study, but are also likely significant." The report, in several sections, BIG pdf files) is available online at http://www.smogcheck.ca.gov/smogweb/IMRC/default.asp?RefPage=IMRC/Pubs/IMRC20000619TOC.htm On the other hand, there is currently a bill in committee with the CA State Legislature, SB825, which aims to close a loophole in Quentin Kopp's SB47 (which exempted 1973 model year and earlier vehicles from biennial and Change-of-Ownership smog check requirements) by extending that exemption to cover the on-the-road checks. Write your local representative in support of SB825! As undesirable as it may be, the reinstatement of smog checks for this class of vehicles can not be classified in any way, shape or form as an attempt to confiscate our cars. As for the buyback offer, while it may be insulting to the owner of a well-maintained classic, or even not-so-classic, but older, car to get a note from the DMV offering to buy it for $500, it is a paranoid leap of faith to characterize this as even a "semi-confiscation technique". It is not wild-eyed rhetoric, but well-reasoned presentation of the salient facts to your state legislators that will preserve our vehicles' immunity from the pain-in-the-ass biennial smog checks. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA STAN CHERNOFF wrote: > WARNING! > > The headline today in my local California "Fishwrap" newspaper said: "SMOG > CHECK PROGRAM FACES OVERHAUL". > > The first paragraph said that the California Inspection and Maintenance > Review Committee will will recommend reinstatement of testing on the > 800,000 cars in the state built between 1966 and 1973. They refer to these > cars as "Smog-belching clunkers". > > Mr. Dennis DeCota, a member of the committee, is quoted as saying "The most > asinine thing bureaucrats did was to give up our right to test those older > vehicles". Please keep in mind that Mr. DeCota is the executive director of > the California Service Station and Automotive Repair Association. Could > there be a conflict of interest for financial reward??? > > We need to get the word out and contact our state legislators to gird > against the proposed attempt to confiscate our cars. They are also > proposing hidden remote sensors on the street that would measure emissions > and photograph license plates so that big brother could summon the owner to > a state approved test station. They are also considering a plan to "Make > Offers" to buy polluters, another semi-confiscation technique. > > If state Senator Quentin Kopp is still in office, please contact him > because he championed S.B. 42 that got us the needed relief. We need an > organized effort to thwart this confiscation effort. > > Please do what you can to spread the word to people involved with old and > collectible cars. If we wait too long before acting then we may be too late! > > Stan Chernoff > Torrance, CA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 10 11:38:16 2000 From: "Kyle Hagemann" To: "STAN CHERNOFF" , Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:34:17 -0700 Subject: Re: They're after our cars again! > WARNING! > > The headline today in my local California "Fishwrap" newspaper said: "SMOG > CHECK PROGRAM FACES OVERHAUL". snip > Stan Chernoff > Torrance, CA Oh man, oh man, oh man. Time to invest in smog pumps, eh? Here are some links you might find helpful- CA state assembly transportation committee: www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/newcomframeset.asp?committee=24 Find your CA Assemblyperson: www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/acsframeset9text.htm CA senate transportation committee: www.senate.ca.gov/ftp/sen/committee/STANDING/TRANSPORTATION/_home1/PROFILE.HTM No emails for the Democrats, they have a web problem it looks like.... I did my part - emailed the whole stinking lot of them:-) The community teamed up to get SB42 passed, let's keep it that way! Kyle emailin' soapboxer no smog gear anywhere (:-o From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 10 12:02:45 2000 From: "Kyle Hagemann" To: "311" Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:01:15 -0700 Subject: old car values, Corvair (OT) Hi there everyone my Toadster is a bit tiny, and freaks the wife out(:-o "It's coming right for us!" So I've started snooping about for a larger 'vert. I've always liked the GenII Corvairs, and lo and behold, there's one somewhat close by. >From time to time, somebody posts the class 1-6 car values; can someone help with Corvair values? '65 Monza 140 'vert. FWIW. For that matter, if anyone has words of wisdom on Corvairs or compact-to-mid size domestic convertibles, please hit me with it. Thanks a bunch, gang! ____ Kyle Hagemann, Born-Again Grease Monkey From Beyond _.;(____\____ 72 240Z, L28/E88/SU, 5sp, all poly - Z Beast | _ | | _'@`, 71 PL521, LZ22, SUs, 2" exh, 4spd - The Hulk `-(#)------(#)-< 69 2000, Back together just in time for rain ------------------- 84 Maxima, Tokicos/ST springs, 238K - Mr Max http://www.sonic.net/~kyle http://www.sonic.net/~kyle/cars.html From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 10 13:04:37 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: kwhcpa@addler.net Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: old car values, Corvair (OT) Hi Kyle, The 65 and up Corvairs are supposed to be the most desirable. They fixed the handling flaw and are supposed to be pretty neat cars. The corsa convertible is the most sought after. Not sure why different body style than the monza?? Different engine?? I have always wanted the 140hp turbo Corvair Corsa Convert. Thought they were neat little cars. Covairs in decent shape go for like 3-4k I think. Other small cars of the same era-early barracudas, comets, damn the little ford with the 283 V-8. An old volkswagenbug?? Will your wife come around?? Sure she won't get used to it?? Or are you just looking for an excuse to buy a cool old 'little' american convert?? Daniel 69 2000 SF CA > Hi there everyone > > my Toadster is a bit tiny, and freaks the wife out(:-o "It's > coming right for us!" > > So I've started snooping about for a larger 'vert. I've always > liked the GenII Corvairs, and lo and behold, there's one somewhat > close by. > > From time to time, somebody posts the class 1-6 car values; can > someone help with Corvair values? '65 Monza 140 'vert. FWIW. > > For that matter, if anyone has words of wisdom on Corvairs or > compact-to-mid size domestic convertibles, please hit me with > it. > > Thanks a bunch, gang! > ____ Kyle Hagemann, Born-Again Grease Monkey From Beyond > _.;(____\____ 72 240Z, L28/E88/SU, 5sp, all poly - Z Beast > | _ | | _'@`, 71 PL521, LZ22, SUs, 2" exh, 4spd - The Hulk > `-(#)------(#)-< 69 2000, Back together just in time for rain > ------------------- 84 Maxima, Tokicos/ST springs, 238K - Mr Max > http://www.sonic.net/~kyle http://www.sonic.net/~kyle/cars.html > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 10 13:28:16 2000 From: SPL311RDST@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:27:29 EDT Subject: K&N # E-1958 K&N # E-1958 fits in the stock air cleaner of my 70-1600. It hangs out just a touch all around, but still seals up great. Got the best price on mine from www.summitracing.com Laurie :-) 70 SPL311 69 SRL311 Chandler, AZ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 10 13:30:12 2000 From: KWS711@aol.com To: , Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:29:20 EDT Subject: Re: old car values, Corvair (OT) I beleive the 140HP cars had carbs (4). The 180Hp was turbocharged. Kim 68 2000 CSP NOWROC From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 10 13:37:52 2000 From: SPL311RDST@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:37:25 EDT Subject: Re cooloing sys problem Find someone with a pressure tester - the kind you hook up where the rad cap goes, them pump the handle to get pressure. An external leak should become obvious after inspecting ALL the lines. Note: I was having similar problems - turned out to be a teensy leak in the head gasket. Not big enough to affect performance, or see any white smoke billowing out. You can check this with a tester that sucks up coolant & changes color if any traces of exhaust gas have been through it. Many big repair chains will check these for free - they want your business, but who says they gotta fix it eh? Laurie :-) 70 SPL311 69 SRL311 Chandler, AZ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 10 13:46:58 2000 From: Hoon Kim To: datsun roadster mailist Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:46:28 -0700 Subject: My roadster back up: carb question Yeah, I got my roadster back up and running with a newly reconditioned head. No more oil leaks, and no smoke on startup! The engine still needs a little fine tuning and i need to readjust my carbs. I don't have a unisyn but a friend of mine let me borrow a carb synchronizer for motorcycles. He didn't know how to use it, so I don't know either. It basically comprised of 4 gauges that measure pressure with a long rubber hose coming out of them. Where do I attatch it to my SU carbs? Also while driving the car around, I had a little fuse trouble. All fixed now but just to get things straight what is exactly the fuse configs for an early '67 1600 from top to bottom. i.e is 9, 20, 30, 20 the correct config or does it even matter? PS. Thanks to all the BADROCers that showed up and scored the prime space. It's good to know that the roadster owners out there are good people. -- - Hoon Kim - x6184 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 10 13:54:24 2000 From: "Jim Plegue" To: "roadster list" Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:50:29 -0700 Subject: shift plate question Can someone help me out with a picture or description of the shifter plate for a 70? My car came without both consoles. I have since reinstalled them but the shift plate doesn't fit well. Isn't it supposed to nestle down inside the "arms' of the console? Mine sits on top. Isit held in place with the same screws that hold the front part of the console? I have jury-rigged somethin but it aint right. Also, the inner boot appears squashed in place -- like it's the wrong size. Wish I had some reference. Can't find any close up photos and the parts diagrams don't help either. Maybe I have a homemade job that's too wide. Can someone give me the measurements of the plate? Or does someone have one to sell? Thanks, Jim 70 1600 Berkeley From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 10 14:30:25 2000 From: Geegc@aol.com To: dneuman@stars.sfsu.edu, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:29:33 EDT Subject: Re: old car values, Corvair (OT) Corvairs -- Don't do it. I had a 1965 red over black Corsa 4 speed convertible and while it was a beautiful car, and drove well when it drove well (much better than the 65 mustangs I have driven) that was not that often. It got out of tune in a week (4 carbs to balance), leaked oil (even with new modern seals), smelled inside when the heater was on, which didn't work anyway, and generally was not a useful car for days when the top had to be up. I was actually happy when my son totaled it (he was fine). As to values, a cherry 65 or 66 convertible is probably worth $8 to $10K tops, they are priced like roadsters, and the restoration costs are usually not recoverable. There is a Corvair users e-mail group much like this one. Gary C 1966 1600 1968 2000 solex From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 10 14:48:40 2000 From: aryasura To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:47:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: old car values, Corvair (OT) There is a guy near me in NJ/NYC area trying to sell a convertable one. If anyone is interested in it he'd probably like to get it off his hands for dirt cheap as its just sitting in the back of his autobody shop for awhile now. Ricca Autobody: 201-488-8423 -ed 2 x68 SRL 311 New York City On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 Geegc@aol.com wrote: > Corvairs -- Don't do it. > > I had a 1965 red over black Corsa 4 speed convertible and while it was a > beautiful car, and drove well when it drove well (much better than the 65 > mustangs I have driven) that was not that often. It got out of tune in a > week (4 carbs to balance), leaked oil (even with new modern seals), smelled > inside when the heater was on, which didn't work anyway, and generally was > not a useful car for days when the top had to be up. > > I was actually happy when my son totaled it (he was fine). > > As to values, a cherry 65 or 66 convertible is probably worth $8 to $10K > tops, they are priced like roadsters, and the restoration costs are usually > not recoverable. > > There is a Corvair users e-mail group much like this one. > > Gary C > 1966 1600 > 1968 2000 solex > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 10 16:17:18 2000 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "Kyle Hagemann" , Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:15:47 -0400 Subject: Re: old car values, Corvair (OT) Always buy premium brand panty hose. They make better fan belts on a Corvair! Paul OROC -----Original Message----- From: Kyle Hagemann To: 311 Date: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:12 PM Subject: old car values, Corvair (OT) >Hi there everyone > >my Toadster is a bit tiny, and freaks the wife out(:-o "It's >coming right for us!" > >So I've started snooping about for a larger 'vert. I've always >liked the GenII Corvairs, and lo and behold, there's one somewhat >close by. > >From time to time, somebody posts the class 1-6 car values; can >someone help with Corvair values? '65 Monza 140 'vert. FWIW. > >For that matter, if anyone has words of wisdom on Corvairs or >compact-to-mid size domestic convertibles, please hit me with >it. > >Thanks a bunch, gang! > ____ Kyle Hagemann, Born-Again Grease Monkey From Beyond > _.;(____\____ 72 240Z, L28/E88/SU, 5sp, all poly - Z Beast > | _ | | _'@`, 71 PL521, LZ22, SUs, 2" exh, 4spd - The Hulk > `-(#)------(#)-< 69 2000, Back together just in time for rain >------------------- 84 Maxima, Tokicos/ST springs, 238K - Mr Max >http://www.sonic.net/~kyle http://www.sonic.net/~kyle/cars.html > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 10 16:17:21 2000 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "STAN CHERNOFF" , Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:50:04 -0400 Subject: Re: They're after our cars again! And if all else fails and they do reinstate inspections, send your 1600s, 2000, & 510s to Ohio. We could use a few more OROC members! Paul OROC -----Original Message----- From: STAN CHERNOFF To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 10:09 AM Subject: They're after our cars again! >WARNING! > >The headline today in my local California "Fishwrap" newspaper said: "SMOG >CHECK PROGRAM FACES OVERHAUL". From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 10 16:18:54 2000 From: "Tony Genovese" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:18:30 GMT Subject: Re: They're after our cars again! Hey guys, here's a link to CA state government Assembly Transportation Committee to let them know what you think of the possibility that our roadsters may have to be smog tested again. Get together on this one and don't let them repeal this bill! www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/newcomframeset.asp?committee=24 _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 10 19:47:54 2000 From: "Dan Zubkoff" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, earlydatsun@listbot.com Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 01:46:20 GMT Subject: Photos: 1966 Nissan Silvia All, Here are a few photos of my 1966 Nissan Silvia. http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=790488&a=9311850 Dan Zubkoff San Mateo, CA 1966 CSP311 1966 SPL311 _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 10 23:36:39 2000 From: "Stephen McCartney" To: spl310@hotmail.com Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 05:35:59 GMT Subject: Re: K & N Filters I've been told you can get good results with the original filter casing (for the Solex's, anyway - dunno about SU's) as they have really good flowing intakes, but the trick is to sandwich in TWO paper filters. Much better airflow - which leads to measurable HP! (funny what little things can do) I've still got the old spongy cleanable type, but I'll switch over and report in about a month... >From: "sidney raper" >Reply-To: "sidney raper" >To: cehubbard@home.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Re: K & N Filters >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:33:37 EDT > >All, > >I sent a note to K&N a while back to find out if they made any of the 3 >filters to fit roadsters. They do not, but they could tool up to make a >run >if there were enough orders. I have the phone number/name of the person >there that they suggested that I call. Unfortunately, other things have >precluded me from calling. > >Personally, I would like to have one of each (1500/1600, 2000 solex, 2000 >su) air cleaner type made by K&N. > >Sid > > > >From: "Charles Hubbard" > >Reply-To: "Charles Hubbard" > >To: "Datsun Roadster Mailing List \(E-mail\)" > > > >Subject: K & N Filters > >Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 23:02:44 -0500 > > > >Does anyone on the list have any experience with K & N high performance >air > >filters or know if they make a filter that will fit a roadster? I > >know...fat > >chance but worth a shot. > > > >Charlie > >1964 SPL310 > >Charles Hubbard > >Flower Mound, TX > >http://members.home.net/cehubbard/tdroc/ > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 10 23:58:55 2000 From: "Stephen McCartney" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 05:58:31 GMT Subject: Rallying Guys, I know a few of you do autocross and track racing, but does anyone here get into rallying? I'd love to hear about what you've done to set up the car, and any experiences - successes, failures, etc. There's at least 2 or 3 guys in Melbourne who do this - there must be someone in the list as well! Cheers, Steve (1968 2000 Solex) _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 00:34:31 2000 From: "aryasura" To: "Datsun Roadster Mailing List \(E-mail\)" Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 02:37:19 -0400 Subject: Re: K & N Filters Re: K & N filters... the subject came up on the Lotus Esprit mail list just the other day. Yes, I have a Lotus parked next to my roadster. Jim knows his stuff..... -ed ----- Original Message ----- From: Land Shark To: turboesprit@egroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:59 PM Subject: Re: [turboesprit] Re: 10-second vent At 02:02 AM 10/9/00 +0000, Larry wrote: >BTW I hope use changes them to K&N filters... I'd be careful.. In my work with BMW performance, doing both dyno tests and actual filtration tests on K&N filters I found that they produce insignificant power gains over the stock BMW paper filters and let thru a LOT more dirt. Emphasis on A LOT MORE. Jim Conforti ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Hubbard" To: "Datsun Roadster Mailing List (E-mail)" Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 12:02 AM Subject: K & N Filters > Does anyone on the list have any experience with K & N high performance air > filters or know if they make a filter that will fit a roadster? I know...fat > chance but worth a shot. > > Charlie > 1964 SPL310 > Charles Hubbard > Flower Mound, TX > http://members.home.net/cehubbard/tdroc/ > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 08:23:35 2000 From: "Patrick J. Horne" To: Russell Southwell Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:22:49 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fwd: 1967 SPLU Overheating Problem] boundary="------------C42862C3301796508789BE60" Three other items to check: Is it REALLY overheating, or is the gauge way off? Try checking the temperature with a calibrated thermometer. What shape are your radiator hoses in? Take them off and look through them to see if there are any bulges on the inside. Also, the lower hose may be colapsing under certain conditions. As for the water loss, have you checked your heater core? They can leak and since they are out of sight, get overlooked quite often. Check the heater hoses while you are at it. Peace, Pat -- - Support Habitat for Humanity, A "hand up", not a "hand out" - Pat Horne, Network Manager, Shop Supervisor, Future planner CS Dept, University of Texas, Austin, Tx. 78712 USA voice (512)471-9517, fax (512)471-8885 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 08:35:55 2000 From: "Ofarrell, Fergus" To: "'roadster.netlist'" Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 07:34:14 -0700 Subject: mixed topics du jour ref: Badroc BBQ in Golden Gate Park, car pics. Michael, great pics, stunning assortment of cars. You BADROC'ers certainly got the shine going. That Bugeye with the rollbar going thru the hardtop makes me wonder what is gonna happen when I put on my hardtop... (6'3", only wear 32" long jeans, seats with headrests are ~31" tall, you do the math) He certainly did the hardtop fit very nicely, though. My uncle owned a convertible Muntz, just like the 'Jet' shown in your pics, but in 'beater' condition. 'Madman' Muntz made 3 to compete in the Pan-American Road Rally in 1952. (3 produced made it a 'production' vehicle) Chrysler fell thru on the sponsorship, (ref. 'Madman' nickname above) so he used the marine version of the Chrysler Hemi, and you notice the dashboard is very reminiscent of boat dashes of the era. (my uncles had temp gauges for both water in and water out) The trans tunnel was so huge that the pedals were offset to the left of the steering wheel. With the gauge of steel used for the body, it must approach 2 tons. Okay, I'll stop now, gearhead with keyboard gone mad. Fergus O'Farrell 69 2000, car with no top, head with no hair From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 08:50:19 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: datsunroadsters@egroups.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:49:40 EDT Subject: Roadster in the press Hey, Does anyone know this guy? http://www.ottawacitizen.com/wheels/autobiography/991008/2967296.html Sid _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 10:30:21 2000 From: "Taro Kusunose" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:29:40 PDT Subject: Roadster (not) in the press I'm glad to see the Roadster getting its much deserved coverage up in Canada. Last weekend I picked up an imported British magazine by the name of Practical Classics. It was the first time I had seen it, but based on what was on the cover (magazine touting to cover "practical" classics, not the "exotic" classics; stories on MGs, Triumphs, Austins, old Hondas, Z-cars, amateur restorations, etc.), I was sure that my $7.75 was well spent and that I would find some Roadster references in it. The magazine is EXCELLENT in all aspects but one; it does not acknowledge the Roadster's existence!! No reference anywhere in the mag (ads, articles, etc.). Even their pricing guide for "1000 practical classics" fails to list the Roadster, even though it lists every other conceivably comparable car. Sheesh. Maybe it was a bum issue. Maybe the Roadster is now considered an EXOTIC!! Taro Seattle, WA >From: "sidney raper" >Reply-To: "sidney raper" >To: datsunroadsters@egroups.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Roadster in the press >Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:49:40 EDT > >Hey, > >Does anyone know this guy? > >http://www.ottawacitizen.com/wheels/autobiography/991008/2967296.html > >Sid >_________________________________________________________________________ > > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 10:33:40 2000 From: JLBrooksNC@aol.com To: Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 12:32:54 EDT Subject: Speaking of Bush & Gore (OT) We had a few comments about Gore's "Balance of the Earth" philosophy a few days ago... I'll be attending the Republican party's Debate Party right outside of Wake Forest tonight(at our fair's Cattle Barn). I'm looking forward to hearing about all topics, including the environment, gas policy, and old cars. Roadster content: Man!!! I wish I could drive the roadster... I could ask W to take a spin! John L. Brooks 68 Roadster 2L Wake Forest Alumni Winston-Salem, NC From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 10:49:31 2000 From: Geegc@aol.com To: JLBrooksNC@aol.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 12:48:43 EDT Subject: Re: Speaking of Bush & Gore (OT) Shouldn't ask Dubya to take a spin in the Roadster, he is already dizzy. Trying too hard to remember what his Republican masters want him to say just confuses him. Gary C 1966 1600 1968 2000 solex lifelong Democrat From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 10:56:00 2000 From: "Dziuba, Larry" To: "'JLBrooksNC@aol.com'" , Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:59:12 -0600 Subject: RE: Speaking of Bush & Gore (OT) One thing is for sure, when politicians get together and start "spewing and blowing it out both ends" you could not ask for a better location than a barn. Larry. -----Original Message----- From: JLBrooksNC@aol.com [mailto:JLBrooksNC@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 10:33 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Speaking of Bush & Gore (OT) We had a few comments about Gore's "Balance of the Earth" philosophy a few days ago... I'll be attending the Republican party's Debate Party right outside of Wake Forest tonight(at our fair's Cattle Barn). I'm looking forward to hearing about all topics, including the environment, gas policy, and old cars. Roadster content: Man!!! I wish I could drive the roadster... I could ask W to take a spin! John L. Brooks 68 Roadster 2L Wake Forest Alumni Winston-Salem, NC From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 11:22:22 2000 From: "Brian St. Jacques" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:19:24 -0700 Subject: RE: Speaking of Bush & Gore (OT) Sounds like a good topic for a POLITICAL discussion group. At 09:59 AM 10/11/2000, Dziuba, Larry wrote: >One thing is for sure, when politicians get together and start "spewing and >blowing it out both ends" you could not ask for a better location than a >barn. Larry. > >-----Original Message----- >From: JLBrooksNC@aol.com [mailto:JLBrooksNC@aol.com] >Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 10:33 AM >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Speaking of Bush & Gore (OT) > > >We had a few comments about Gore's "Balance of the Earth" philosophy a few >days ago... I'll be attending the Republican party's Debate Party right >outside of Wake Forest tonight(at our fair's Cattle Barn). I'm looking >forward to hearing about all topics, including the environment, gas policy, >and old cars. > >Roadster content: Man!!! I wish I could drive the roadster... I could ask W >to take a spin! > >John L. Brooks >68 Roadster 2L >Wake Forest Alumni >Winston-Salem, NC Brian '68 1600 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 11:47:36 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Rainy day projects part 1 Hello All, I am planning my rainy day projects. I want to install my new B cam and followers soon. Is there a tech tip out there for this. I also want to shim up my timing chains-they have never been shimmed before and are starting to have a slight rattle on hot start-up. Is there an approved official way to do this?? Is there a faq or tech tip somewhere that explains this?? Don't know why working on the major engine components scares me so much... I actually scared to death of messing up somthing serious on the inside of my engine. Daniel 69 2000 SF CA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 11:52:23 2000 From: Alan Bent To: Victor Laury Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 03:47:06 +1000 Subject: Re: Brit Transplants A company over here was selling these new cylinder heads for Minis that bolt straight onto the original mini block. They were an alloy head twin cam 8 valve crossflow design with belt drive and a choice of either twin DCOEs of EFI. Cost was somewhere in the region of A$4000 for the conversion kit. I saw a photo of someone with a Datsun 320 that had one of these twin cam heads bolted onto the Datsun E series block, it went on with very little modification. It was popular over here for MGB owners to use the heads of the 31 series Nissan Cedric sedans, Cedrics have the H series engine which is a stroker G series engine. The Cedric heads were a huge improvement on the MG design. Alan Bent - Flaxton, Queensland, Australia 1966 Fairlady SP311-01060 - * 1965 Silvia CSP311-70231 1966 Fairlady SP311-00925 - * 1964 Fairlady 4-SP310-00134 1964 Fairlady 4-SP310-00134 * 1964 Cedric Wagon 4-WP31-50620 1963 Bluebird P312-3-32984 * 1963 Bluebird P312-3-39741 1963 Cedric G31-3-07024 * 1964 Cedric Wagon 4-WP31-51579 1969 Super Six G130-005415 * Early Datsun Homepage http://www.geocities.com/olddat Nissan Silvia Homepage http://www.angelfire.com/ns/silvia Planet Cedric http://nav.to/planetcedric Victor Laury wrote: > I've read quite a bit on the subject and to our Marque's credit, Datsun > parts are prized by the Brit crowd. > > The heads from the "E" and "J" Motors are gifts from the gods to sprites and > Minis. You'll find more than a few Austin sedans and others with "R" motors. > But, The BEST! The thing that will really make you smile, is the Laments > from the TR-6/GT-6 crowd that they can't fit the Z's L-24/26/28 motors under > their bonnets to replace their Leland boat anchors! Poor folks! After being > denied championship glory, again and again by SRL Roadsters. Can we all give > them a collective sympathetic "AWWW" ? :-) > > Victor > 70 SRL 31113136 > Los Angeles > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=123073 > SoCalROC http://www.ameri-eagle.com/datsun/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 11:53:04 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:52:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Rainy day Projects part 2 Hello All, How bad would it be for me to cut a rectangular opening in the left inner fender directly behind the air cleaner?? Is this a 'structural' part? I have been reading up on airboxes and if I want to use my super-neato triple-chrome-plated 4" NISMO Velocity stacks I might have to do this. I am planning on making a cold air induction box and the roof of the box needs to be a certain distance away from the mouth of the stacks. The top of the box would have to protrude into the wheel well I believe. Daniel 69 2000 SF CA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 12:21:36 2000 From: RoadsteRob@aol.com To: tkusunose@hotmail.com Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:20:24 EDT Subject: Re: Roadster (not) in the press Hi Taro and List Firstly Al Boettcher, who was featured in the Ottawa Citizen, is a member of the Ontario Z Car Club - He was featured on their website last month. Re your Practical Classics mag you will rarely find any reference to a roadster in England in the classic car press because they were never imported here. The few we have are personal imports. They don't list them in the price guide 'cos there are so few around. However in an edition of PC earlier this year there was a South African Roadster featured, and in the last edition there was a pic of a 1970 1600 in the clubs section. My 2000 was featured in a 7 page article a couple of years back. Finally, a quote from Mark Dixon in Popular Classics (November 1994):- "We should be grateful that Datsun didn't sell the Fairlady in Britain in the1960s, or we'd have a Datsun on the front of every other classic car magazine today" Enough said. Rob Nottingham England The Classic Fairlady Roadster Register In a message dated 10/11/00 5:31:48 PM GMT Daylight Time, tkusunose@hotmail.com writes: << I'm glad to see the Roadster getting its much deserved coverage up in Canada. Last weekend I picked up an imported British magazine by the name of Practical Classics. It was the first time I had seen it, but based on what was on the cover (magazine touting to cover "practical" classics, not the "exotic" classics; stories on MGs, Triumphs, Austins, old Hondas, Z-cars, amateur restorations, etc.), I was sure that my $7.75 was well spent and that I would find some Roadster references in it. The magazine is EXCELLENT in all aspects but one; it does not acknowledge the Roadster's existence!! No reference anywhere in the mag (ads, articles, etc.). Even their pricing guide for "1000 practical classics" fails to list the Roadster, even though it lists every other conceivably comparable car. Sheesh. Maybe it was a bum issue. Maybe the Roadster is now considered an EXOTIC!! Taro Seattle, W >> From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 12:28:18 2000 From: PLETCH5@aol.com To: dneuman@stars.sfsu.edu, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:26:46 EDT Subject: Re: Rainy day projects part 1 What ever you do. DONT touch the bolt thingy under the valve thingy. ;') Ken DATSTER From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 12:29:12 2000 From: "Kyle Hagemann" To: "Daniel Neuman" , Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 11:27:11 -0700 Subject: Re: Rainy day projects part 1 > Hello All, > I am planning my rainy day projects. I want to install my new B cam > and followers soon. Is there a tech tip out there for this. I also want to > shim up my timing chains-they have never been shimmed before and are starting > to have a slight rattle on hot start-up. Is there an approved official way to > do this?? Is there a faq or tech tip somewhere that explains this?? > Don't know why working on the major engine components scares me so > much... I actually scared to death of messing up somthing serious on the inside > of my engine. > Daniel 69 2000 > SF CA Hi Daniel; Wouldn't you know it, I was just in there:-) Can't offer 'official' anything, but I'll share what I did - To shim the upper tensioner, you remove the access plate at the front of the head, carefully pry back the lock plate from the two bolts that hold the tensioner to the head, and unbolt it. Be super careful not to drop anything! Once you get it out, you'll be able to pull the tensioner apart (more likely it will spring apart on its own). Before disassembly, see how far the tensioner block extends out of the tensioner body. Make the shim that same size, or slightly smaller. For a shim, it's not rocket science. Some folks use flat washers; you will have to grind them flat on one side so the tensioner can bolt onto the head. I wound up using a pilot bushing, cut to size. Why? It was handy, didn't need any massaging to work (other than cutting to size), and somehow I figured the copper/bronze/whatever would be more compliant than steel flat washers. Probably not true, but there you go. You can shim that tensioner and be back on the road in an hour, pretty simple. To change the cam, well, I haven't done that, but - the U20 is pretty cool in its cam setup - there are caps on each of the cam journals that you unbolt; I imagine you then just pull the cam up and out. Now you obviously have to secure the cam gear to the 'Evil L' before taking the cam out;-) Once you get the cam out, you can change the rockers, they just sit on the rocker ball and lash pad, held in with the moustrap springs. You might want to back the valve adjusters off before putting the cam in, JIC the new followers are thicker, or new cam's base circle is larger, or anything else weird. HTH Kyle '69 2000, maybe trading in on a Corvair:-) From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 12:42:54 2000 From: Taylor Collins To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 11:42:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: 1/4 mile times Does anyone have any substantially quick 1/4 mile times for their 2000's? I'd like to get an idea of a "quick" 1/4 mile for a Roadster. Out of curiousity-Taylor __________________________________________________ Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 12:47:29 2000 From: "John F Sandhoff" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 11:46:37 -0700 Subject: Alternate view about K&N Filters This last showed up on the Roadster list in August 1997, posted then by Barrie Strachan. It apparently came from the Mazda list, which came from the Volvo list, which came from an automotive BBS somewhere. I make no claims pro or con for K&N - I'm just passing this along.. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA > Subj: K & N filters > To: John M. Saturday, January 21, 1995 5:14:10 PM > From: George Morrison > > John: If I wrote "subjective" I meant "objective".. I was > responsible for evaluating re-usable air filters > for a major construction/mining company that had > hundreds of vehicles ranging from large earthmovers > to pick-up trucks and salesmen's cars. This study > was embarked upon due to the fact that we were > spending upwards of $30,000 a MONTH on paper air > filters. Using them one time then throwing them > away.. I inititated the study in that I was convinced > that a K&N type filter or oiled foam would save us > many dollars per year in filter savings, man hour savings, > and of course engines as these would filter > dirt better than paper. (yes, I had read the K&N ads and was > a believer) > > Representative test units were chosen to give us a > broad spectrum from cars right through large front > end loaders. With each unit we had a long history > of oil analysis records so that changes would be > trackable. > > Unfortunately, for me, every single unit having > alternative re-usable air cleaners showed an immediate > large jump in silicon (dirt) levels with corresponding > major increases in wear metals. In one extreme > case, a unit with a primary and secondary air cleaner, > the secondary (small paper element) clogged > before even one day's test run could be completed. > This particular unit had a Cummins V-12 engine > that had paper/paper one one bank and K&N/paper on > the other bank; two completely independent > induction systems. The conditions were EXACTLY > duplicated for each bank yet the K&N allowed so > much dirt to pass through that the small filter became > clogged before lunch. The same outcome occured > with oiled foams on this unit. > > We discontinued the tests on the large pieces almost > immediately but continued with service trucks, > formen's vehicles, and my own company car. Analysis > results continued showing markedly increased > wear rates for all the vehicles, mine included. > Test concluded, switched back to paper/glass and all > vehicles showed reduction back to near original levels > of both wear metals and dirt. I continued with > the K&N on my company car out of stubborness and at > 85,000 miles the Chevy 305 V-8 wheezed its > last breath. The top end was sanded badly; bottom > end was just fine. End of test. > > I must stress that EVERYONE involved in this test > was hoping that alternative filters would work as > everyone was sick about pulling out a perfectly good > $85 air cleaner and throwing 4 of them away > each week per machine... > > So, I strongly suggest that depending upon an > individual's long term plan for their vehicles they simply > run an oil analysis at least once to see that the > K&N or whatever alternative air filter is indeed working > IN THAT APPLICATION... It depends on a person's priorities. > If you want performance then indeed the K&N is the > way to go but at what cost??? > > And no, I do not work for a paper or glass air > filter manufacturing company nor do I have any affiliation > with anything directly or indirectly that could > benefit George Morrison as a result.. From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 12:49:26 2000 From: "Taro Kusunose" To: RoadsteRob@aol.com Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 11:48:55 PDT Subject: Re: Roadster (not) in the press Thanks to all of you who have explained to me why roadsters aren't in the magazine often. It's good to know, since other than that (and the fact that all prices listed are in pounds), I feel I have stumbled across an absolutely fantastic magazine. I was afraid that someone at the magazine had a bone to pick about roadsters.... Taro '67 1600 in Seattle, WA >From: RoadsteRob@aol.com >To: tkusunose@hotmail.com >CC: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Re: Roadster (not) in the press >Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:20:24 EDT > >Hi Taro and List > >Firstly Al Boettcher, who was featured in the Ottawa Citizen, is a member >of >the Ontario Z Car Club - He was featured on their website last month. > >Re your Practical Classics mag you will rarely find any reference to a >roadster in England in the classic car press because they were never >imported >here. The few we have are personal imports. They don't list them in the >price >guide 'cos there are so few around. However in an edition of PC earlier >this >year there was a South African Roadster featured, and in the last edition >there was a pic of a 1970 1600 in the clubs section. > >My 2000 was featured in a 7 page article a couple of years back. > >Finally, a quote from Mark Dixon in Popular Classics (November 1994):- > >"We should be grateful that Datsun didn't sell the Fairlady in Britain in >the1960s, or we'd have a Datsun on the front of every other classic car >magazine today" > >Enough said. > >Rob >Nottingham >England >The Classic Fairlady Roadster >Register _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 13:43:12 2000 From: Don Miller To: Taylor Collins Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 12:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: 1/4 mile times Wweellll, it's not quite stock, but I did a 11.2 last year. Only got to go once as they said I need a full cage to go again. PLanning to go in March when the new cage is installed. Don Miller 69 Turbo V-6 (318 hp on the dyno) Meridian, ID --- Taylor Collins wrote: > Does anyone have any substantially quick 1/4 mile > times for their 2000's? I'd like to get an idea of > a > "quick" 1/4 mile for a Roadster. Out of > curiousity-Taylor > > __________________________________________________ > Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! __________________________________________________ Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 14:04:12 2000 From: SPL311RDST@aol.com To: sgam@hotmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:02:57 EDT Subject: Re: Rallying In a message dated 10/10/00 10:59:57 PM US Mountain Standard Time, sgam@hotmail.com writes: > Guys, I know a few of you do autocross and track racing, but does anyone > here get into rallying? Does running our 100E Anglia in the La Carrera Panamericana in 2001 count? ( www.lacarrera.com) OK ok... so that's not really "Pro Rallye" Neither are the TSD runs I used to do w/NWDE ages ago. But I had lot of fun. Pro Rallye is probably the most AWESOME of all the motorsports out there! Too bad it's almost exclusive to Europe. Laughlin NV has a rallye this (next?) weekend and later this season is one up in Flagstaff here in AZ. Somewhere my not-quite-yet-bro-in-law (gotta have Mark do something about that!) sent me some great pro-rallye mpegs. I'll dig them up to share w/everyone. Laurie :-) 70 SPL311 69 SRL311 Chandler, AZ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 14:04:59 2000 From: SPL311RDST@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:04:22 EDT Subject: AZ Roadsters: Fwd: Pavillions **Saturday 10/14** --part1_86.1542238.271621c6_boundary Don't know if I'm gonna make it out there this time - got a ton of stuff to do. But it's an open invite from DZA. Laurie :-) 70 SPL311 69 SRL311 Chandler, AZ --part1_86.1542238.271621c6_boundary Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (rly-zd02.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.226]) by air-zd03.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 02:59:01 -0400 Received: from web1002.mail.yahoo.com (web1002.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.92]) by rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 02:58:50 -0400 Received: (qmail 21060 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Oct 2000 06:58:49 -0000 Message-ID: <20001011065849.21059.qmail@web1002.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.4.254.1] by web1002.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 23:58:49 PDT Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 23:58:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Christa Booth Subject: Pavillions **Saturday 10/14** To: Christa MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Unknown Yes, it is time for the monthly car show!! It will be this Saturday at Scottsdale Pavillions located at Indian Bend & Pima. We have 20 reserved spots so please get there early to get them, after 5pm it becomes first come first serve!! I get off of work at 4pm, so I will be there... Just a little late! I will have more info on the Car Care Clinic at Scottsdale Nissan for Oct 21st on Saturday also. Enjoy the Ride!! Christa ZchickAZ VP, Desert Z Association ===== LATE AT NIGHT..... IN PARKING GARAGES EVERYWHERE... OTHER CARS CHANT.... "WE'RE NOT WORTHY!!!" __________________________________________________ Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! --part1_86.1542238.271621c6_boundary-- From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 14:42:13 2000 From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, Daniel Neuman Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 11:35:32 -0700 Subject: Re: Rainy day Projects part 2 We've seen a couple roadsters at our meets without inner fenders (or with the bulk of them cut out). I think the bigger concern is the wheel travel inside of the fender-well. Just how much are you going to intrude into the fender-well before getting concerned about the wheel messing up your plans. (Crunch!!!) Fred - So.SF ______________________ Reply Separator _______________________ >Subject: Rainy day Projects part 2 >Author: Daniel Neuman >Date: 10/11/2000 10:52 AM > >Hello All, >How bad would it be for me to cut a rectangular opening in the left >inner fender directly behind the air cleaner?? Is this a 'structural' >part? >I have been reading up on airboxes and if I want to use my super-neato >triple-chrome-plated 4" NISMO Velocity stacks I might have to do this. >I am planning on making a cold air induction box and the roof of the >box needs to be a certain distance away from the mouth of the stacks. >The top of the box would have to protrude into the wheel well I >believe. >Daniel 69 2000 >SF CA > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 15:25:15 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: turbospl311@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: 1/4 mile times Hey-sus Christ-o that must be one crazy fast roadster.. Is it street legal?? Daniel 69 2000 SF CA ~160HP if I'm lucky on a good day. > Wweellll, it's not quite stock, but I did a 11.2 last > year. Only got to go once as they said I need a full > cage to go again. PLanning to go in March when the new > cage is installed. > > Don Miller > 69 Turbo V-6 (318 hp on the dyno) > Meridian, ID > > --- Taylor Collins wrote: > > Does anyone have any substantially quick 1/4 mile > > times for their 2000's? I'd like to get an idea of > > a > > "quick" 1/4 mile for a Roadster. Out of > > curiousity-Taylor > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from > anywhere! > > > __________________________________________________ > Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 15:30:09 2000 From: Don Miller To: Daniel Neuman Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:29:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: 1/4 mile times Daniel, It is not street leagl. It is my SCCA Autocross car. Here are some rough shots of it: www.geocities.com/turbospl311 Putting a new side shot up tomorrow. Don Miller 69 Turbo V-6 (11.2 was last year at 245 hp, now 318hp at 8lbs boost, going to 12 pounds this winter for 375 hp) Merisdian, ID --- Daniel Neuman wrote: > Hey-sus Christ-o that must be one crazy fast > roadster.. Is it street legal?? > Daniel 69 2000 > SF CA > ~160HP if I'm lucky on a good day. > > > Wweellll, it's not quite stock, but I did a 11.2 > last > > year. Only got to go once as they said I need a > full > > cage to go again. PLanning to go in March when the > new > > cage is installed. > > > > Don Miller > > 69 Turbo V-6 (318 hp on the dyno) > > Meridian, ID > > > > --- Taylor Collins wrote: > > > Does anyone have any substantially quick 1/4 > mile > > > times for their 2000's? I'd like to get an idea > of > > > a > > > "quick" 1/4 mile for a Roadster. Out of > > > curiousity-Taylor > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from > > anywhere! > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from > anywhere! > > > __________________________________________________ Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 15:30:25 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:23:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Rainy day Projects part 2 Hi Fred, I'm not exactly sure how far into the fender well its going to be. There needs to be at least 2-3 inches between the vel stacks and the top of the box. Daniel 69 2000 SF CA > We've seen a couple roadsters at our meets without inner fenders (or with > the bulk of them cut out). I think the bigger concern is the wheel travel > inside of the fender-well. > > Just how much are you going to intrude into the fender-well before getting > concerned about the wheel messing up your plans. (Crunch!!!) > > Fred - So.SF > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 15:37:10 2000 From: Thomas the Swede To: John F Sandhoff Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 21:51:00 +0200 Subject: Re: Alternate view about K&N Filters I do some dyno test at work and on most cars there are no power gain by using a K&N air filter to replace the paper filter. For example, a turbocharged 4 cylinder engine got a 3 Nm increase at 3000 rpm (that's 2 lb-ft) but nothing at the top end. More important is how the air get to the filter housing as by replacing the factory air box with the popular cone type air filter actually reduced top end power with 4 hp because it had to suck the hot air next to the engine. I admit using K&N air filters myself as I live in a part of the world where there isnt much dust in the air, but I dont expect any power gains from the filter itself. 0.02 Thomas John F Sandhoff wrote: > This last showed up on the Roadster list in August 1997, posted then by > Barrie Strachan. It apparently came from the Mazda list, which came > from the Volvo list, which came from an automotive BBS somewhere. > I make no claims pro or con for K&N - I'm just passing this along.. > > -- John > John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA > > > Subj: K & N filters > > To: John M. Saturday, January 21, 1995 5:14:10 PM > > From: George Morrison > > > > John: If I wrote "subjective" I meant "objective".. I was > > responsible for evaluating re-usable air filters > > for a major construction/mining company that had > > hundreds of vehicles ranging from large earthmovers > > to pick-up trucks and salesmen's cars. This study > > was embarked upon due to the fact that we were > > spending upwards of $30,000 a MONTH on paper air > > filters. Using them one time then throwing them > > away.. I inititated the study in that I was convinced > > that a K&N type filter or oiled foam would save us > > many dollars per year in filter savings, man hour savings, > > and of course engines as these would filter > > dirt better than paper. (yes, I had read the K&N ads and was > > a believer) > > > > Representative test units were chosen to give us a > > broad spectrum from cars right through large front > > end loaders. With each unit we had a long history > > of oil analysis records so that changes would be > > trackable. > > > > Unfortunately, for me, every single unit having > > alternative re-usable air cleaners showed an immediate > > large jump in silicon (dirt) levels with corresponding > > major increases in wear metals. In one extreme > > case, a unit with a primary and secondary air cleaner, > > the secondary (small paper element) clogged > > before even one day's test run could be completed. > > This particular unit had a Cummins V-12 engine > > that had paper/paper one one bank and K&N/paper on > > the other bank; two completely independent > > induction systems. The conditions were EXACTLY > > duplicated for each bank yet the K&N allowed so > > much dirt to pass through that the small filter became > > clogged before lunch. The same outcome occured > > with oiled foams on this unit. > > > > We discontinued the tests on the large pieces almost > > immediately but continued with service trucks, > > formen's vehicles, and my own company car. Analysis > > results continued showing markedly increased > > wear rates for all the vehicles, mine included. > > Test concluded, switched back to paper/glass and all > > vehicles showed reduction back to near original levels > > of both wear metals and dirt. I continued with > > the K&N on my company car out of stubborness and at > > 85,000 miles the Chevy 305 V-8 wheezed its > > last breath. The top end was sanded badly; bottom > > end was just fine. End of test. > > > > I must stress that EVERYONE involved in this test > > was hoping that alternative filters would work as > > everyone was sick about pulling out a perfectly good > > $85 air cleaner and throwing 4 of them away > > each week per machine... > > > > So, I strongly suggest that depending upon an > > individual's long term plan for their vehicles they simply > > run an oil analysis at least once to see that the > > K&N or whatever alternative air filter is indeed working > > IN THAT APPLICATION... It depends on a person's priorities. > > If you want performance then indeed the K&N is the > > way to go but at what cost??? > > > > And no, I do not work for a paper or glass air > > filter manufacturing company nor do I have any affiliation > > with anything directly or indirectly that could > > benefit George Morrison as a result.. From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 16:08:24 2000 From: "Stephen McCartney" To: dafox1@hotmail.com Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 22:07:38 GMT Subject: Re: Rallying Melbourne, DU. Steve (1968 2000 Solex: SR311-01113) (note: not srL) 8^) >From: "David A. Fox" >To: sgam@hotmail.com >Subject: Re: Rallying >Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:26:25 EDT > >Steve; > >Is this Melbourne [Down Under] or Melbourne [Florida]? > ><(ŠżŠ)> >------------------------------ >Blue Skies & Calm Waters, >DAFox [SRL311-04646] >Oviedo, Florida >dafox1@hotmail.com > > >----Original Message Follows---- >From: "Stephen McCartney" >Reply-To: "Stephen McCartney" >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Rallying >Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 05:58:31 GMT > >Guys, I know a few of you do autocross and track racing, but does anyone >here get into rallying? I'd love to hear about what you've done to set up >the car, and any experiences - successes, failures, etc. > >There's at least 2 or 3 guys in Melbourne who do this - there must be >someone in the list as well! > >Cheers, > >Steve >(1968 2000 Solex) > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 16:32:33 2000 From: Eric Frisbee To: datsun Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:31:43 -0600 Subject: Randy.. Hello all, http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=455739461&r=0&t=0 Wow... is this the same car we saved for Randy Christman? I thought it was only worth $1800?? It's sure up there now! I really wonder if he is still planning on sending us our donations back? Eric From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 17:05:59 2000 From: "Mark Gill" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 23:05:23 GMT Subject: It Is Not What you Weigh, but Weight Distribution Hello List, Received the following Article in an Oct. 10, 2000 email publication. Thought the Roadster List (activity seems to be light) might be interested in the Article. Weight Distribution is often discussed, but seldom fully understood especially by non Physics types like me. :') Yet it has a dramatic impact on handling and performance, when one is trying to maximize performance. The Dallas Morning News and on dallasnews.com by Tony Fabrizio The Finish Line - Inside Motor Sports "NASCAR teams don't want to throw weight around" Oct. 10, 2000 "Ever wonder why NASCAR teams will try to get away with lighter engine parts or titanium wheel hubs or holes drilled in the roll cage?" "After all, a Winston Cup car still has to weigh 3,400 pounds when it is rolled onto the scale for inspection. What good does it do to take away weight from one place if you only have to have put it back in another?" "Well, Craftsman Truck Series points leader Greg Biffle provided some good insight during a recent visit to Texas Motor Speedway. The answer is that the location of the weight in a car makes all the difference in the world. Engineers try to get as much of the weight as possible to the center of the car, and then, as low as possible in the car." "Biffle used the analogy of a pencil affixed with two small led weights. If the two weights are placed in the center of the pencil, it rotates left and right with ease. But if the weights are placed at either end of the pencil, there's much more inertia involved in the rotation of the pencil. A race car works the same way." "The issue came up during a discussion of the magnesium intake manifold that got Jeff Gordon's team in trouble recently. General Motors issued a press release saying the magnesium manifold provided no horsepower advantage over a regular aluminum one. But apparently, the magnesium manifold is lighter than the aluminum one, allowing for some weight savings in the engine compartment." For what it is worth, DaimlerChrysler is experimenting on Forging Titanium Piston Rods vs Forged Steel for the Dodge Viper. They believe the weight saving will provide improved performance and a higher CAFE miles per gallon rating. Saving weight in a rotating object, reduces energy required to overcome the initial inertia. That is why lighter flywheels and wheels are desired. The Viper boys may also be tired of getting beat by a Corvette. Enjoy the ride, Mark Gill Denton, TX 1970 SRL311-14359 waiting on a shorter starter to enjoy the ride. _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 17:18:46 2000 From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us To: Daniel Neuman Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:00:04 -0700 Subject: Re[2]: Rainy day Projects part 2 Daniel, Here's an idea, although it may be unnecessary if someone produces specs for wheel clearance inside the front wheel-well. Remove your left front fender and drive without it. Then you can SEE the wheel clearance to the inner fender well. Of course you should do your driving in the daytime, unless you have another way to mount your headlight to make it street legal. Then you can start doing your cutouts on the inner fender-well. For a reference, see the picture of the junker at SJ that I picked up recently. http://www.2xtreme.net/fredkatz/images/68junk1.jpg As you can see, the indented area for the carbs is below the tire height. Turning the wheel brings it close to the indented area at the front and rear, while the indented area looks safe. Good luck with your project. If it works for you I may do a similar thing for my SU's; I want to double up the air filters. Fred ______________________ Reply Separator _______________________ >Subject: Re: Rainy day Projects part 2 >Author: Daniel Neuman >Date: 10/11/2000 2:23 PM > >Hi Fred, >I'm not exactly sure how far into the fender well its going to be. >There needs to be at least 2-3 inches between the vel stacks and the >top of the box. >Daniel 69 2000 >SF CA > >> We've seen a couple roadsters at our meets without inner fenders (or >>with the bulk of them cut out). I think the bigger concern is the >>wheel travel inside of the fender-well. >> >> Just how much are you going to intrude into the fender-well before >>getting concerned about the wheel messing up your plans. (Crunch!!!) >> >> Fred - So.SF >> >> From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 17:38:55 2000 From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us To: datsun , Eric Frisbee Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:22:49 -0700 Subject: Re: Randy.. Maybe we shouldn't be too hard on him. He's got some other ebay auctions going on, so maybe he's got to raise money to pay off some debts. On the other hand, he did say he wanted donations in order to keep the car. He's also got pics of other items on his website, if he owns them perhaps he is selling them as well. One is a chair with Andy Kaufman's name on it. Now that is something I'd gladly take instead of getting my donation back. Fred _________________________ Reply Separator ____________________________ >Subject: Randy.. >Author: Eric Frisbee >Date: 10/11/2000 >4:31 PM > >Hello all, > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=45573 9461&r=0& t=0 > >Wow... is this the same car we saved for Randy Christman? I thought it >was only worth $1800?? It's sure up there now! I really wonder if >he is still planning on sending us our donations back? > >Eric > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 18:00:17 2000 From: "Kyle Hagemann" To: , "Daniel Neuman" Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:58:54 -0700 Subject: Re: Re[2]: Rainy day Projects part 2 > For a reference, see the picture of the junker at SJ that I > picked up recently. > > http://www.2xtreme.net/fredkatz/images/68junk1.jpg OUCH! I think you hurt my eyes with that one, Fred. Maybe a disclaimer is in order? Laughin- Kyle datsun stuff From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 18:11:11 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 20:10:39 EDT Subject: Re: Re[2]: Rainy day Projects part 2 In a message dated 10/12/00 12:02:42 AM !!!First Boot!!!, kwhcpa@addler.net writes: << http://www.2xtreme.net/fredkatz/images/68junk1.jpg OUCH! I think you hurt my eyes with that one, Fred. Maybe a disclaimer is in order? >> It looks like it has a nice sideview mirror still. Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 18:51:09 2000 From: "John F Sandhoff" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:50:12 -0700 Subject: Flat dash into late cars? >From those of you that have done it, how difficult - mechanically - is it to fit a 67.5 flat dash into a '68 body? The wiring doesn't scare me (though it should, I suppose). But what are all the things I need to consider? What are the switches on the left side - wiper and dimmer? (67.5 dash). What about to the right of the amp/fuel? What does the flat dash fit into - some sort of a frame, but is it part of the body, or a 'bolt on' that can come off a donor? What do I need - besides the flat dash itself - to put it all together? (example: glove box liner). Is the '68 steering column compatible with the hole in the dash? Hmmm, wish I had looked a LOT harder at the early interiors at Shasta... -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 19:02:25 2000 From: Mark Dent To: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us, datsun , Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 20:58:57 -0400 Subject: Re: Randy.. I e mailed him and asked why he was selling it. He said it needs too much work and he is going to buy one already done. I guess he came into some money.... Mark Baltimore 1968 1600 1967 2000 http://www.datsunroadsters.com http://www.roadster.org From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 19:20:56 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Taro Kusunose" , Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 21:15:49 -0400 Subject: Re: Roadster (not) in the press Taro, The magazine is from England what do you expect?????? There's too much to fix on British cars and it takes years. I used to get that mag several years ago when I dwelled in Manhattan which had all these great magazine stores. Still a good magazine and many good general articles. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Taro Kusunose To: Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 12:29 PM Subject: Roadster (not) in the press > I'm glad to see the Roadster getting its much deserved coverage up in > Canada. Last weekend I picked up an imported British magazine by the name > of Practical Classics. It was the first time I had seen it, but based on > what was on the cover (magazine touting to cover "practical" classics, not > the "exotic" classics; stories on MGs, Triumphs, Austins, old Hondas, > Z-cars, amateur restorations, etc.), I was sure that my $7.75 was well spent > and that I would find some Roadster references in it. The magazine is > EXCELLENT in all aspects but one; it does not acknowledge the Roadster's > existence!! No reference anywhere in the mag (ads, articles, etc.). Even > their pricing guide for "1000 practical classics" fails to list the > Roadster, even though it lists every other conceivably comparable car. > Sheesh. Maybe it was a bum issue. Maybe the Roadster is now considered an > EXOTIC!! > > Taro > Seattle, WA > > > >From: "sidney raper" > >Reply-To: "sidney raper" > >To: datsunroadsters@egroups.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > >Subject: Roadster in the press > >Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:49:40 EDT > > > >Hey, > > > >Does anyone know this guy? > > > >http://www.ottawacitizen.com/wheels/autobiography/991008/2967296.html > > > >Sid > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 19:28:34 2000 From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us To: "Daniel Neuman" , Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 18:07:26 -0700 Subject: Re[4]: Rainy day Projects part 2 Kyle, Note that I called it a junker, to ease my conscience about chopping it up. Actually, it looked worse than it was. I had a tow truck bring it to my nephews house in SJ and I cleaned it up. By the time Calspeed helped me flat-tow it to SF with a donor fender, it looked decent. The front end had body/frame damage, and the floor was gone. I saved the rear half (perfect condition including doors). The rear axle is in Calspeed's car. Hard to believe but it was a driver a year or so ago. I took pics as I chopped it up, since they're useful for reference like today's talk about Daniels' carb cold air induction box. One thing Daniel, that inner fender sheet metal is not flimsy, it's a bitch to cut. Use an air hammer with a cutting chisel. Fred - So.SF, Calif. P.S. My other cars do not look like that! ________________________ Reply Separator __________________________ >Subject: Re: Re[2]: Rainy day Projects part 2 >Author: "Kyle Hagemann" >Date: 10/11/2000 4:58 PM > >> For a reference, see the picture of the junker at SJ that I >> picked up recently. >> >> http://www.2xtreme.net/fredkatz/images/68junk1.jpg > >OUCH! I think you hurt my eyes with that one, Fred. Maybe a >disclaimer is in order? > >Laughin- >Kyle >datsun stuff > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 19:28:47 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Alan Bent" , "Victor Laury" Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 21:23:55 -0400 Subject: Re: Brit Transplants Alan, A company makes an aluminum cross flow heads for the B with a choice of carburattor options. It's still probably cheaper to use the datsun head. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Alan Bent To: Victor Laury Cc: Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 1:47 PM Subject: Re: Brit Transplants > A company over here was selling these new cylinder heads for Minis that bolt > straight onto the original mini block. They were an alloy head twin cam 8 valve > crossflow design with belt drive and a choice of either twin DCOEs of EFI. Cost > was somewhere in the region of A$4000 for the conversion kit. I saw a photo of > someone with a Datsun 320 that had one of these twin cam heads bolted onto the > Datsun E series block, it went on with very little modification. > It was popular over here for MGB owners to use the heads of the 31 series Nissan > Cedric sedans, Cedrics have the H series engine which is a stroker G series > engine. The Cedric heads were a huge improvement on the MG design. > Alan Bent - Flaxton, Queensland, Australia > 1966 Fairlady SP311-01060 - * 1965 Silvia CSP311-70231 > 1966 Fairlady SP311-00925 - * 1964 Fairlady 4-SP310-00134 > 1964 Fairlady 4-SP310-00134 * 1964 Cedric Wagon 4-WP31-50620 > 1963 Bluebird P312-3-32984 * 1963 Bluebird P312-3-39741 > 1963 Cedric G31-3-07024 * 1964 Cedric Wagon 4-WP31-51579 > 1969 Super Six G130-005415 * > Early Datsun Homepage http://www.geocities.com/olddat > Nissan Silvia Homepage http://www.angelfire.com/ns/silvia > Planet Cedric http://nav.to/planetcedric > > Victor Laury wrote: > > > I've read quite a bit on the subject and to our Marque's credit, Datsun > > parts are prized by the Brit crowd. > > > > The heads from the "E" and "J" Motors are gifts from the gods to sprites and > > Minis. You'll find more than a few Austin sedans and others with "R" motors. > > But, The BEST! The thing that will really make you smile, is the Laments > > from the TR-6/GT-6 crowd that they can't fit the Z's L-24/26/28 motors under > > their bonnets to replace their Leland boat anchors! Poor folks! After being > > denied championship glory, again and again by SRL Roadsters. Can we all give > > them a collective sympathetic "AWWW" ? :-) > > > > Victor > > 70 SRL 31113136 > > Los Angeles > > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=123073 > > SoCalROC http://www.ameri-eagle.com/datsun/ > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 19:44:30 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Mark Gill" , Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 21:39:18 -0400 Subject: Re: It Is Not What you Weigh, but Weight Distribution Goin to see NASCAR racin' this weekend at Lime Rock. Those guys know how to rock on the track!!!!! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Gill To: Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 7:05 PM Subject: It Is Not What you Weigh, but Weight Distribution > Hello List, > Received the following Article in an Oct. 10, 2000 email publication. > Thought the Roadster List (activity seems to be light) might be interested > in the Article. Weight Distribution is often discussed, but seldom fully > understood especially by non Physics types like me. :') Yet it has a > dramatic impact on handling and performance, when one is trying to maximize > performance. > > The Dallas Morning News and on dallasnews.com > by Tony Fabrizio > > The Finish Line - Inside Motor Sports > "NASCAR teams don't want to throw weight around" > Oct. 10, 2000 > > "Ever wonder why NASCAR teams will try to get away with lighter engine parts > or titanium wheel hubs or holes drilled in the roll cage?" > > "After all, a Winston Cup car still has to weigh 3,400 pounds when it is > rolled onto the scale for inspection. What good does it do to take away > weight from one place if you only have to have put it back in another?" > > "Well, Craftsman Truck Series points leader Greg Biffle provided some good > insight during a recent visit to Texas Motor Speedway. The answer is that > the location of the weight in a car makes all the difference in the world. > Engineers try to get as much of the weight as possible to the center of the > car, and then, as low as possible in the car." > > "Biffle used the analogy of a pencil affixed with two small led weights. If > the two weights are placed in the center of the pencil, it rotates left and > right with ease. But if the weights are placed at either end of the pencil, > there's much more inertia involved in the rotation of the pencil. A race car > works the same way." > > "The issue came up during a discussion of the magnesium intake manifold that > got Jeff Gordon's team in trouble recently. General Motors issued a press > release saying the magnesium manifold provided no horsepower advantage over > a regular aluminum one. But apparently, the magnesium manifold is lighter > than the aluminum one, allowing for some weight savings in the engine > compartment." > > For what it is worth, DaimlerChrysler is experimenting on Forging Titanium > Piston Rods vs Forged Steel for the Dodge Viper. They believe the weight > saving will provide improved performance and a higher CAFE miles per gallon > rating. Saving weight in a rotating object, reduces energy required to > overcome the initial inertia. That is why lighter flywheels and wheels are > desired. The Viper boys may also be tired of getting beat by a Corvette. > > Enjoy the ride, > > Mark Gill > Denton, TX > 1970 SRL311-14359 waiting on a shorter starter to enjoy the ride. > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 19:54:06 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: efris@home.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 21:53:18 EDT Subject: Re: Randy.. As I recall, Randy sold the one that the list helped save so that he could purchase this car that a friend of his was selling. Of course, I could be mistaken. Sid >From: Eric Frisbee >Reply-To: Eric Frisbee >To: datsun >Subject: Randy.. >Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:31:43 -0600 > >Hello all, > > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=455739461&r=0&t=0 > >Wow... is this the same car we saved for Randy Christman? I thought it >was only worth $1800?? It's sure up there now! I really wonder if he >is still planning on sending us our donations back? > >Eric _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 20:28:15 2000 From: To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 21:27:53 -0500 Subject: Things Making Me Mad * Randy * Randy's Car * Randy having the $$$ for a "better roadster" * The thought that my K&N Cone filter is tearing apart the 32 valve OHC Aluminum engine in my Q45 * That my car doesn't look as good as those at the BADROC brigade * That I replaced all my grease nipples tonight, no grease seems to be going in even though I have a hydraulic gun * That I just repleced the rear seal and it still leaks * That I just might not be a "great" mechanic\ * Sigh From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 20:58:34 2000 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: hoon@pixar.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 22:57:55 EDT Subject: Re: My roadster back up: carb question Hello, Find a uni-syn, I tried the vacume gauge thing with no luck. Where you would attach them would be the plugs in the top of the manifold. They are not standard pipe threads so regular pipe nipples will only go in about two turns without messing up the threads. BTW, does anyone know what threads are on those plugs? Try Moss motors for the uni-syn. keith From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 21:11:30 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: Keith0alan@aol.com, hoon@pixar.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 23:11:07 EDT Subject: Re: My roadster back up: carb question All, Want to save a buck or two on the Unisyn? Go to your local VW speed shop. (or check on line - Claude's Buggies comes to mind) They use the Unisyn for the dual downdraft setups on aircooled bugs and they are usually a LOT cheaper. Or check with your local bug repair shop. I bought a used unisyn (it was the cheap plastic one, but it works) for $5. Sid >From: Keith0alan@aol.com >Reply-To: Keith0alan@aol.com >To: hoon@pixar.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Re: My roadster back up: carb question >Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 22:57:55 EDT > >Hello, > > Find a uni-syn, I tried the vacume gauge thing with no luck. Where you >would attach them would be the plugs in the top of the manifold. They are >not >standard pipe threads so regular pipe nipples will only go in about two >turns >without messing up the threads. BTW, does anyone know what threads are on >those plugs? Try Moss motors for the uni-syn. > > keith _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 21:26:13 2000 From: "Mike Adams" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 21:33:12 +0000 Subject: Re: Things Making Chris Mad Chris- BooHoo Baby - Wish I cared Yawn Mike ---------- >From: >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Things Making Me Mad >Date: 12, Oct , 2:27 AM > >* Randy >* Randy's Car >* Randy having the $$$ for a "better roadster" >* The thought that my K&N Cone filter is tearing apart the 32 valve >OHC Aluminum engine in my Q45 >* That my car doesn't look as good as those at the BADROC brigade > >* That I replaced all my grease nipples tonight, no grease seems to be >going in even though I have a hydraulic gun >* That I just repleced the rear seal and it still leaks >* That I just might not be a "great" mechanic\ >* Sigh > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 21:45:03 2000 From: "Stephen McCartney" To: willie2570@hotmail.com Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 03:43:18 GMT Subject: Re: It Is Not What you Weigh, but Weight Distribution > >For what it is worth, DaimlerChrysler is experimenting on Forging Titanium >Piston Rods vs Forged Steel for the Dodge Viper. They believe the weight >saving will provide improved performance and a higher CAFE miles per gallon >rating. Saving weight in a rotating object, reduces energy required to >overcome the initial inertia. That is why lighter flywheels and wheels are >desired. I was talking to Lou Mondello about this, not long ago. He showed me a flywheel from a 2000 he was re-building. He'd scooped out a substantial amount of metal, to reduce weight. More than a kilogram IIRC. Also, he'd subjected the crankshaft to a similar treatment on the lathe, taking about the top third off those counterweights. Again, a substantial weight saving, which not only makes the engine lighter, but allows it to spin quicker too. Always nice to get to that HP quicker! Steve (68 2000 Solex) _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 22:03:32 2000 From: pmiller@megapathdsl.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 21:09:00 -0700 Subject: List Clutter Hmmmm. I admit that I am primarily a lurker on this list, but I have been a member of it for about 5 years, so here goes.... The internet and email is a wonderful thing -- no doubt. I approve and laud everything that it is. BUT! I must tell you that I just checked my email after just two days. I received 70 email messages, all from the Roadster email list. Of these 70, about 1/3 at most, or about 23%, have some fleeting Roadster content. Now I DO appreciate the "OT" designation, but I disagree with the idea. The Roadster list is for Roadster content. THAT IS THE IDEA BEHIND TOPIC ORIENTED EMAIL LISTS, after all. I joined the Roadster email list for ROADSTER information and content. Not for political commentary. Not for information about other cars. Not for poetry. Not for cutsey stories. Not for jokes. I joined the ROADSTER email list, oddly enough, for ROADSTER content. A BIG thank you, BTW, for those of you who STICK to topic and provide USEFUL information to help us with our cars! You KNOW who you are and I, for one, appreciate you! Again, I point out that the internet, email lists, and news groups etc. are AVAILABLE to EVERYONE -- the GREAT thing about the internet! I'm on this list for INFORMATIVE and HELPFUL discussion about ROADSTERS! I do NOT care what the poetry, political, other car writers, etc. say. Just give me ROADSTER CONTENT! PLEASE! The rest of you, FIND ANOTHER GROUP! YOU ARE CHOKING MY EMAIL! PLEASE take your political commentary, information about other cars, poetry, cutsey stories, and jokes ELSEWHERE! I am CERTAIN you can find a viable and informative group for your discussion and interests. The Roadster list, I have always hoped, is about ROADSTERS! Now I am SURE this email will generate a whole lot of discussion about what is or is not "appropriate" on the Roadster email list. Obviously, my view is ROADSTER CONTENT. I'm sure some folks will be offended. Frankly I don't care, and I can assure you that I will, as always, just delete your "insightful" comments without even reading them. WHY? BECAUSE I ONLY READ THE ROADSTER CONTENT EMAILS! Flame me ALL YOU WANT. I'm pretty tired of all this drivel on what should be a VERY SPECIFIC LIST. Again, YOU ARE CHOKING MY EMAIL! BTW, while I respect and appreciate you task, shame on you, List Master, for letting this list get so ENTIRELY out of hand! All the BEST! P Please note my new email address! pmiller@megapathdsl.net From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 22:34:14 2000 From: "Terry and Donna Cost" To: "Datsun Roadsters" Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 23:25:15 -0500 Subject: TSD Rallies and other stuff Back a long time ago, when dinosaurs roamed the earth, a good friend and I did TSD rallies in his 1600. It was a little cramped after about three hours, and we missed a few markers when we used the hardtop because of the limited visibility (our excuse, anyway), but we had a lot of fun, won a few times, and remained friends. It's like bridge clubs. Most husband-wife teams become ex-husband ex-wife teams because they can't help rehashing past mistakes. We took one leg at a time, and promptly forgot it. My friend drove and I navigated. When we used a car with more creature comforts we had just as much fun. My present roadster wouldn't be a good ride because I have no odometer and a 5.13 rear end, which is really tough on mathematical calculations. I guess they still do math in rallies. Electronic gadgets may have obsoleted the navigator's job. Enough of this frivolity. I need to tell you about the TDROC Fall Fling, which this year will be in the Rockport/Corpus Christi area, October 21st and 22nd. We plan to ride the free ferry to Mustang Island (that part of the barrier islands between Galveston Island and Padre Island), see the Texas State Aquarium, the USS Lexington aircraft carrier, possibly the Pinta, Nina, or Santa Maria replicas, and we may even get to see if the Corpus police do roadster profiling. All that and more. Our new TDROC website http://members.home.net/cehubbard/tdroc/ has more details, or email me for further instructions. I saw some interesting ways to plumb cold air into autocross cars at Topeka. Home improvement stores carry semi-rigid "bubble wrap" insulation that can be fastened to an aluminum frame to make a cold box that fits in the engine compartment. You could wrap the insulation around RV type sewer hose (Wal Mart) and build a cold box around the stock filter housing, with the sewer hose leading to the grill opening. Most of the setups had a pressure relief system so you wouldn't overfeed the carbs with air at speed and lean out the mixture. I'm going to play with those ideas and if I come up with a good system I'll let you know. Leisure Suit Terry From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 22:40:22 2000 From: "Stephen McCartney" To: SPL311RDST@aol.com Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 04:39:44 GMT Subject: Re: Rallying Absolutely! (But why not run a 1600? - It'd be perfect!) I'm not talking about competing against WRX's and the like, but against other cars of the era. I've joined a local club, and apparently a couple of members are competing in Datsun 2000's (and there's a whole group of 240Z's and 1600 sedans (510's, that is)). www.hra.bazar.com.au (but not many photos) most of the recent events have been more navigational than hard driving events. Also, a 2000 came 4th in the classic division of Targa Tasmania earlier this year - an event that looks similar to Panam. www.targa.org.au Check the results section. And go to the Classic division. That Lancia Fulvia is an ex-works World Championship car, and the only other cars to go faster than the Datto were Porshes... (and a 510 that was disqualified for illegal modifications!) It's my intention to compete in Targa 2005. Cheers, Steve ('68 2000 Solex) > >Does running our 100E Anglia in the La Carrera Panamericana in 2001 count? >( www.lacarrera.com) OK ok... so that's not really "Pro Rallye" >Neither are the TSD runs I used to do w/NWDE ages ago. But I had lot of >fun. >Pro Rallye is probably the most AWESOME of all the motorsports out there! >Too >bad it's almost exclusive to Europe. > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 23:15:54 2000 From: Daniel E McHatton To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, datsunroadsters@egroups.com Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 22:16:32 -0700 Subject: Suspension Torque Values? I recently disassembled my front end suspension components to replace all the rotted out rubber seals and some bad control arm bushings. I have several repair manuals (with some hilarious Japanese English), but none of them are very good about giving torque values. Engine assembly torque values yes. Anything else, no such luck. I know you're not supposed to final tighten suspenson hardware until the car is back on the ground, but I have no idea how tight I should tighten the control arm bushings. I assume you need to be careful on the top bushings, since there's a locking tab. Any suggestions on torque values? ...or... Just have at it until it feels right? I'm going to have an alignment shop check things over and adjust the alignment when I'm done. Should I let them check them out and then bend the locking tab down? I'm a little worried that most alignment shops won't have much experience with metal bushings. Dan Sierra Vista, AZ '66 SPL 311 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 11 23:34:48 2000 From: Datsundude@aol.com To: pmiller@megapathdsl.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 01:34:09 EDT Subject: Re: List Clutter was that randy??? From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 01:24:17 2000 From: Dennis Currington To: 311 , Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 00:21:54 -0700 Subject: CDM Server Problems Just a quick note to let those of you who have recently sent email to CDM that we are experiencing major email problems and have not gotten anything in the past 3 days. BTW, the Surfside Show is back on track. Keep those entries coming. Thanks, Dennis -- Dennis Currington http://www.ClassicDatusn.com From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 05:13:53 2000 From: "Ben Zech" To: Chris.Brucciani@ercgroup.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:13:20 GMT Subject: Re: Things Making Me Mad * Stopped up fuel filters (continuously).finally remove gas tank, flush, replace fuel lines from front to back, put old bowl filter back on.....,....now, lines leak in two places, bowl filter gasket leaks, but, solved trash in tank. * Second gear synchro is going.....can't stand that. Don't you just hate it when your nipples don't work.... Oh, BTW, I need money to start on my 68 2000. All donations will be gladly accepted and put to good use. BZ >From: >Reply-To: >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Things Making Me Mad >Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 21:27:53 -0500 > >* Randy >* Randy's Car >* Randy having the $$$ for a "better roadster" >* The thought that my K&N Cone filter is tearing apart the 32 valve >OHC Aluminum engine in my Q45 >* That my car doesn't look as good as those at the BADROC brigade > >* That I replaced all my grease nipples tonight, no grease seems to be >going in even though I have a hydraulic gun >* That I just repleced the rear seal and it still leaks >* That I just might not be a "great" mechanic\ >* Sigh _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 05:32:09 2000 From: "Ben Zech" To: pmiller@megapathdsl.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:31:41 GMT Subject: Re: List Clutter Yea, yea, yea....go back to your corner and lurk, your input is appreciated but not needed. we have had this same discussion many, many times. Please use your delete button. Thanks again for the useful input. BZ >From: pmiller@megapathdsl.net >Reply-To: pmiller@megapathdsl.net >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: List Clutter >Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 21:09:00 -0700 > >Hmmmm. > > >I admit that I am primarily a lurker on this list, but I have been a >member of it for about 5 years, so here goes.... _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 06:44:28 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: motormite@hotmail.com, Chris.Brucciani@ercgroup.com, Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 08:43:57 EDT Subject: Re: Things Making Me Mad Hey, I did not think that we were going the donation route anymore. (If we are, the Help Sid buy a 2000 fund is in need of contributors - but donate to the list manager first!) I do have a roadster question though. In the 2000 supplement to the roadster repair manual, there are some odd photos - obviously prototype cars. In some of the pics of the engine, it appears that the SU carbs on the 2000 used a heat shield that was the same as the 1600. I was wondering if this ever made it into production for some of the early cars. I also have a heat shield with a water pipe attached to it that - although it appears very similar to the 1600 - it may be for another engine. The long "neck" that comes up to the water pump connection is short and has the "bulge" indicating that it was made that way and not just cut down. Is this a piece for a Sylvia or an RL 411? Thanks, Sid >From: "Ben Zech" >Reply-To: "Ben Zech" >To: Chris.Brucciani@ercgroup.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Re: Things Making Me Mad >Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:13:20 GMT > >* Stopped up fuel filters (continuously).finally remove gas tank, flush, >replace fuel lines from front to back, put old bowl filter back >on.....,....now, lines leak in two places, bowl filter gasket leaks, but, >solved trash in tank. >* Second gear synchro is going.....can't stand that. > >Don't you just hate it when your nipples don't work.... > >Oh, BTW, I need money to start on my 68 2000. All donations will be gladly >accepted and put to good use. > >BZ > >From: > >Reply-To: > >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > >Subject: Things Making Me Mad > >Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 21:27:53 -0500 > > > >* Randy > >* Randy's Car > >* Randy having the $$$ for a "better roadster" > >* The thought that my K&N Cone filter is tearing apart the 32 valve > >OHC Aluminum engine in my Q45 > >* That my car doesn't look as good as those at the BADROC brigade > > > >* That I replaced all my grease nipples tonight, no grease seems to be > >going in even though I have a hydraulic gun > >* That I just repleced the rear seal and it still leaks > >* That I just might not be a "great" mechanic\ > >* Sigh > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 06:56:31 2000 From: "Ben Zech" To: spl310@hotmail.com, Chris.Brucciani@ercgroup.com, Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:56:02 GMT Subject: Re: Things Making Me Mad Sid: i have one like that too...have no idea what it came off of. Another item that i have acquired along the way is a motor that has a finned aluminum oil pan, extra wide at the bottom.....anyone have any ideas what this motor was in originally? Thanks, BZ Chock full of roadster content. > >I also have a heat shield with a water pipe attached to it that - although >it appears very similar to the 1600 - it may be for another engine. The >long "neck" that comes up to the water pump connection is short and has the >"bulge" indicating that it was made that way and not just cut down. Is >this a piece for a Sylvia or an RL 411? _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 06:58:12 2000 From: Dwight Claassen To: spl310@hotmail.com, Chris.Brucciani@ercgroup.com, Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 07:55:10 -0500 Subject: Re: List Clutter Ben Zech wrote: > Yea, yea, yea....go back to your corner and lurk Well, I only use the list when necessary. Does that make me a lurker? Perhaps we need to give you guys a name. Remember, there are a whole lot more of us 'lurkers' out here then there are of you list abusers. ROADSTER CONTENT; one front quarter panel chrome trim piece for '68 2k. New, with blue shrink wrap still attached. Make offer. LURKER, and damn proud of it!! Dwight Claassen 68 2k From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 06:59:03 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: motormite@hotmail.com, Chris.Brucciani@ercgroup.com, Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 08:58:42 EDT Subject: Re: Things Making Me Mad Is it wide just at the rear (a T sump arrangement?) If so, it is probably an RL 411 competition pan. Sid >From: "Ben Zech" >To: spl310@hotmail.com, Chris.Brucciani@ercgroup.com, >datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Re: Things Making Me Mad >Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:56:02 GMT > > >Sid: i have one like that too...have no idea what it came off of. >Another item that i have acquired along the way is a motor that has a >finned aluminum oil pan, extra wide at the bottom.....anyone have any ideas >what this motor was in originally? >Thanks, BZ >Chock full of roadster content. > >> >>I also have a heat shield with a water pipe attached to it that - although >>it appears very similar to the 1600 - it may be for another engine. The >>long "neck" that comes up to the water pump connection is short and has >>the "bulge" indicating that it was made that way and not just cut down. >>Is this a piece for a Sylvia or an RL 411? > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 07:07:59 2000 From: YouTurnTheScrews@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:07:18 EDT Subject: Fwd: List Clutter --part1_57.c2f6034.27171186_boundary --part1_57.c2f6034.27171186_boundary Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: From: YouTurnTheScrews@aol.com Full-name: YouTurnTheScrews Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:06:15 EDT Subject: Re: List Clutter To: pmiller@megapathdsl.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 125 I LIKED MY STORY DID EVERYONE ELSE LIKE MY STORY???? hey i am on this list to talk to other people with roadsters and exchange thoughts and ideas not only tech info but there experiances and times they shared together. It makes me happy ....i like roadsters and allthough my story had a bunch of gramatical errors and mispelled words i thought that was very much about roadsters amen brotha Love the list! everyones great! sincerely and have a nice day 2 all DJ Tressler salem,ohio 67 2000 --part1_57.c2f6034.27171186_boundary-- From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 07:14:39 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: datsunroadsters@egroups.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:14:17 EDT Subject: Key 1054 where are you? Howdy all, I have an almost complete lock set except for one piece - the key! Can someone get a key cut to code 1054? The only local locksmith that can do this wants me to mortgage my soul for this (well, not really, but he is ridiculous in his pricing) I can source the blank if need be. Thanks! Sid _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 08:37:33 2000 From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com To: pmiller@megapathdsl.net Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 07:36:55 -0700 Subject: Re: List Clutter (Roadster Content) HA! pmiller@megapathdsl.net wrote: > [snip] > There... much better. You know, one of the nice things about e-mail, especially in the mind of pmiller, I'm sure, is the fact that one can mouth off as one sees fit and then say "NYAAH NYAAH NYAHH... Go ahead and flame me - I'll just delete your e-mails!" The other nice thing is the "Filters" function Netscape Communicator (let's see... If 'SENDER' contains 'pmiller' then 'DELETE MESSAGE'). Great, all better. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA > > I'm sure some folks will be offended. Frankly I don't care, and I > can assure you that I will, as always, just delete your "insightful" > comments without even reading them. WHY? BECAUSE I ONLY > READ THE ROADSTER CONTENT EMAILS! Flame me ALL YOU > WANT. I'm pretty tired of all this drivel on what should be a VERY > SPECIFIC LIST. Again, YOU ARE CHOKING MY EMAIL! > > BTW, while I respect and appreciate you task, shame on you, > List Master, for letting this list get so ENTIRELY out of hand! > > All the BEST! > > P > > > Please note my new email address! > > pmiller@megapathdsl.net From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 09:20:46 2000 From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com To: sidney raper Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 08:19:51 -0700 Subject: Re: Roadster in the press (Hello, pmiller!! Actual Roadster content Late getting to this subject, I know, but my company's "stoopid" proxy servers have been hosed on and off for a couple of days and I couldn't follow the link. Anyway - did anyone else notice some of the inconsistencies in this article? For example: " "Only 200 with the Solex option were imported a year and only to Canada and Australia," reports Mr. Boettcher." Maybe I'm all wet, but weren't the Solex cars imported into/available in the good ol' US of A, also? and... "I'm keeping the interior original," he says with a smile, "I prefer leather to vinyl, even if it's worn." What, were you Canucks getting an interior option that wasn't available south of the border (or the equator), or was the original owner of my '70 2000 a cheapskate who didn't shell out for the leather interior option? Gary McCormick San Jose, CA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ sidney raper wrote: > Hey, > > Does anyone know this guy? > > http://www.ottawacitizen.com/wheels/autobiography/991008/2967296.html > > Sid > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 09:45:36 2000 From: "Victor Laury" To: , Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 21:24:07 -0700 Subject: Re: List Clutter Thank you for your wonderfull statments. Yes we are a talkitive bunch, and mighty friendly at that. This list has always been a bit loose and I sure hope it stays that way. Every so often someone complains about content. Oh Well. I for one feel slightly disappointed when clutter is down. See I like these folks, I want to hear what they got to say. They're my friends. I know this list will come through with some great wacky stories and an occasional off topic rant. But if it's too much for you, Please (bold)(underline) subscribe to the digest format. That way you'll get one email daily. Victor 70 SRL 31113136 Los Angeles http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=123073 SoCalROC http://www.ameri-eagle.com/datsun/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 09:49:37 2000 From: "John F Sandhoff" To: "sidney raper" Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 08:48:54 -0700 Subject: Re: Key 1054 where are you? > I have an almost complete lock set except for one piece - the key! Can > someone get a key cut to code 1054? The dealer should be able to do this. The dealer here, in fact, charges less to make a key from the code, then to make it from another key. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 09:51:33 2000 From: "Dziuba, Larry" To: "'svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com'" Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:55:17 -0600 Subject: RE: Roadster in the press (Hello, pmiller!! Actual Roadster conte Good Morning Gary, Actually mine came w/ a Nissan factory optioned polar bear fur lined set of seats w/ white weasel covered head rests. The tires were also lined w/ porcupine quills for better traction in winter conditions. Larry in Calgary. -----Original Message----- From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com [mailto:svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com] Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 9:20 AM To: sidney raper Cc: datsunroadsters@egroups.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: Roadster in the press (Hello, pmiller!! Actual Roadster content here!) Late getting to this subject, I know, but my company's "stoopid" proxy servers have been hosed on and off for a couple of days and I couldn't follow the link. Anyway - did anyone else notice some of the inconsistencies in this article? For example: " "Only 200 with the Solex option were imported a year and only to Canada and Australia," reports Mr. Boettcher." Maybe I'm all wet, but weren't the Solex cars imported into/available in the good ol' US of A, also? and... "I'm keeping the interior original," he says with a smile, "I prefer leather to vinyl, even if it's worn." What, were you Canucks getting an interior option that wasn't available south of the border (or the equator), or was the original owner of my '70 2000 a cheapskate who didn't shell out for the leather interior option? Gary McCormick San Jose, CA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- sidney raper wrote: > Hey, > > Does anyone know this guy? > > http://www.ottawacitizen.com/wheels/autobiography/991008/2967296.html > > Sid > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 10:17:11 2000 From: Marc Tyler To: , Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:21:16 -0500 Subject: Hydraulics and pedantics YouTurnTheScrews@aol.com wrote >I LIKED MY STORY DID EVERYONE ELSE LIKE MY STORY???? >hey i am on this list to talk to other people with roadsters and exchange >thoughts and ideas not only tech info but there experiances and times they >shared together. It makes me happy ....i like roadsters and allthough my >story had a bunch of gramatical errors and mispelled words i thought that >was >very much about roadsters >amen brotha I like your stories! I like the way you weave simile like....some...big simile weaving thing. I think it's wrongheaded to curb people's non technical (yet still roadster related input) but list nazis will be list nazis. ROADSTER CONTENT...CAUTION!! ONLY PASSINGLY TECHNICAL!! Looks like I'm headed towards mising the TDROC Corpus run :-( Caught a cold, put me behind at work, roadster needs new fluids and some work on clutch hydraylics before a run to the coast, and I don't think I'm going to find the time now. I was looking forward to alligator watching from an open car! ...sorry the alligator watching from the open car bit might be seen as waxing poetic. It was not the intention of the author to post an attempt at poetry. Marc T. ========================================================================== Marc Tyler TDROC 1970 1600 #SPL311-31016 1965 L-320 #L320 013642 (the misspent ute) http://datsun_marc.tripod.com/cgi-bin/Datsun_homepage.html Sisterdale TX From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 10:22:23 2000 From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com To: "Dziuba, Larry" Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:21:50 -0700 Subject: Re: Roadster in the press (Hello, pmiller!! Actual Roadster content See! I KNEW that they were sending the Canadians all of the good stuff! Oh well, living here in California where we never have to put the top up, leather would be sooo hard to take care of, what with all of that sunshine drying it out and all... 8^ ) Gary in (not too sunny today) San Jose, CA "Dziuba, Larry" wrote: > Good Morning Gary, Actually mine came w/ a Nissan factory optioned polar > bear fur lined set of seats w/ white weasel covered head rests. The tires > were also lined w/ porcupine quills for better traction in winter > conditions. Larry in Calgary. > > -----Original Message----- > From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com > [mailto:svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 9:20 AM > To: sidney raper > Cc: datsunroadsters@egroups.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: Roadster in the press (Hello, pmiller!! Actual Roadster > content here!) > > Late getting to this subject, I know, but my company's "stoopid" proxy > servers have been > hosed on and off for a couple of days and I couldn't follow the link. > > Anyway - did anyone else notice some of the inconsistencies in this article? > For example: > > " "Only 200 with the Solex option were imported a year and only to Canada > and Australia," > reports Mr. Boettcher." > > Maybe I'm all wet, but weren't the Solex cars imported into/available in the > good ol' US > of A, also? > > and... > > "I'm keeping the interior original," he says with a smile, "I prefer leather > to vinyl, > even if it's worn." > > What, were you Canucks getting an interior option that wasn't available > south of the > border (or the equator), or was the original owner of my '70 2000 a > cheapskate who didn't > shell out for the leather interior option? > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- > > sidney raper wrote: > > > Hey, > > > > Does anyone know this guy? > > > > http://www.ottawacitizen.com/wheels/autobiography/991008/2967296.html > > > > Sid > > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 10:23:00 2000 From: "Gano Kevin A. 810-578-3045" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:06:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: List Clutter or find something to do fer kripe-sakes!!!! must be pretty rough having nothing better to do than bicker thru e-mail. (snip) There... much better. You know, one of the nice things about e-mail, especially in the mind of pmiller, I'm sure, is the fact that one can mouth off as one sees fit and then say "NYAAH NYAAH NYAHH... Go ahead and flame me - I'll just delete your e-mails!" The other nice thing is the "Filters" function Netscape Communicator (let's see... If 'SENDER' contains 'pmiller' then 'DELETE MESSAGE'). Great, all better. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA > > I'm sure some folks will be offended. Frankly I don't care, and I > can assure you that I will, as always, just delete your "insightful" > comments without even reading them. WHY? BECAUSE I ONLY > READ THE ROADSTER CONTENT EMAILS! Flame me ALL YOU > WANT. I'm pretty tired of all this drivel on what should be a VERY > SPECIFIC LIST. Again, YOU ARE CHOKING MY EMAIL! > > BTW, while I respect and appreciate you task, shame on you, > List Master, for letting this list get so ENTIRELY out of hand! > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 10:24:46 2000 From: RiedelD@pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:24:15 -0400 Subject: RE: Roadster in the press (Hello, pmiller!! Actual Roadster conte Gary quotes... > "I'm keeping the interior original," he says with a smile, "I > prefer leather to vinyl, > even if it's worn." > > What, were you Canucks getting an interior option that wasn't > available south of the > border (or the equator), or was the original owner of my '70 > 2000 a cheapskate who didn't > shell out for the leather interior option? Yeah, this caught my eye too. My '69 2000 certainly isn't leather. Anybody else sporting leather seats? Dave Riedel '69 2000 Victoria, BC, Can. PS BTW, I have the solex setup, but I'm not sure if it's an original Canadian import. From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 10:58:12 2000 From: "Laury, Victor" To: "'datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net'" Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:56:44 -0700 Subject: Absolution from Sin Feeling guity for pissing pmiller off? Sent just a few too many poems in did you? Well there's a way to clean the slate of sin for another year. Contibute to the list administration fund. As you might have seen, Mark Bradakis is once again asking for a few alms to help on the operating costs of this list. Team.Net must take up quite a bit of his time and we've all benfited from it. Although the statistics aren't published, I can only hope that the Datsun-Roadster list is holding up it's end and contributing more than it's share to the list operating costs. So this is how it works. You can be absolved of you list sins. for a donation up to $20.00 you can sin a little guilt free. For a contribution of over $100, You can preach and complain all you want how the other "List Abusers" have offended your mail reader. So lets help Mark out. Unlike Randy, We recieve the benifits of his efforts every day. And his an alright guy even if he's a Triumph fan. Victor 70 SRL 31113136 Los Angeles http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=123073 SoCalROC http://www.ameri-eagle.com/datsun/ Mark J. Bradakis wrote: =============================== If you agree with what these lists are all about, I request that you take a moment to send a check for five, ten, twenty dollars or whatever, payable to Fat Chance Garage, to: Fat Chance Garage PO Box 58333 Salt Lake City, UT 84158 If you'd prefer, you can mail in Visa or Mastercard info, or fax it to me at 801-355-5438 I strongly suggest you not use email to send credit card information. One of these days I'll get my parts business set up to take charge cards directly over the net, maybe in time for the next pledge drive. And yes, I know about Paypal. If you are a starving student, or just spent your bucks on one more set of race tires for the season, or you're sitting there staring at the stack of bills that you generated getting your kids ready for school, don't worry. I'm only asking for a couple of dozen subscribers to send in $20. You can contribute at some future date. Stay tuned. As for me, I'll keep the lists flowing as best I can. Also, you have likely noticed in the past that being such a disorganised, procrastinating flake, I don't always get thank you notes, paper or email, out to contributors. I'll work on being better at that for this round. Thanks, mjb. From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 11:14:37 2000 From: Roman Rist To: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:13:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Roadster in the press > Anyway - did anyone else notice some of the inconsistencies in this > article? For example: > " "Only 200 with the Solex option were imported a year and only to > Canada and Australia," > reports Mr. Boettcher." > Maybe I'm all wet, but weren't the Solex cars imported into/available > in the good ol' US > of A, also? > > "I'm keeping the interior original," he says with a smile, "I prefer > leather to vinyl, > even if it's worn." here are my 2 cents on this; What we have here is a very proud roadster owner who may or may not be informed and knowledgeable about his car. He had the good fortune to collide with a very uninformed reporter. intentionally or not, a little bullshit occurred. those in the know, we see through the inconsistencys, to the layman it is an article that is favorable to the roadster. I bet at least one person that read that said "I gotta get one of those"! everyone wins! Roman Rist ===== ristguitars@yahoo.com http://www.geocities.com/roadsterregistry/index.html http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=379995 __________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 11:20:07 2000 From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com To: Roman Rist Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:19:26 -0700 Subject: Re: Roadster in the press Yes, Roman, I agree - I was just getting a sanity check, esp. on the Solex deal - I don't think any Japanese car of that era had leather interior! gary Roman Rist wrote: > > Anyway - did anyone else notice some of the inconsistencies in this > > article? For example: > > > " "Only 200 with the Solex option were imported a year and only to > > Canada and Australia," > > reports Mr. Boettcher." > > > Maybe I'm all wet, but weren't the Solex cars imported into/available > > in the good ol' US > > of A, also? > > > > > "I'm keeping the interior original," he says with a smile, "I prefer > > leather to vinyl, > > even if it's worn." > > here are my 2 cents on this; > > What we have here is a very proud roadster owner who may or may not be > informed and knowledgeable about his car. > He had the good fortune to collide with a very uninformed reporter. > intentionally or not, a little bullshit occurred. > those in the know, we see through the inconsistencys, to the layman it > is an article that is favorable to the roadster. I bet at least one > person that read that said "I gotta get one of those"! > everyone wins! > > Roman Rist > > ===== > ristguitars@yahoo.com > http://www.geocities.com/roadsterregistry/index.html > > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=379995 > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 11:48:39 2000 From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:28:29 -0700 Subject: Re[2]: List Clutter [OT] (press delete) What I like is that most list members put the [OT] designation in the subject. That helps the filter to drop it in a separate folder. Now I wish all the advertising come-ons I get would have [JUNK] in the subject, sigh... Like Gary says, if you're choking on emails then switch to digest mode, or use the search-function on the archives. The main thing I want to say is I enjoy the banter and camaraderie of our roadster family on the list. The list mirrors what happens at various meets and shows. Some are there to talk auto-techie, while others match faces to email names and share quality time. I'm on other lists, and they are very dry compared to our beloved roadster list. List Master (that you, Tom?), please go easy on us! Fred - So.SF (Roadster content: tried rebuilding a master cylinder that went bad only a few years ago. No good. Then I rebuilt one sitting on my '68 that hasn't been driven for 20 years that was all gunked up. Cleaned up perfect, go figure. Quirky stuff.) ___________________ Reply Separator _________________________ >Subject: Re: List Clutter >Author: "Gano Kevin A. 810-578-3045" >Date: 10/12/2000 12:06 PM > >or find something to do fer kripe-sakes!!!! > >must be pretty rough having nothing better to do than bicker thru e-mail. > > >(snip) > > >There... much better. You know, one of the nice things about e-mail, especially >in the >mind of pmiller, I'm sure, is the fact that one can mouth off as one sees fit >and then >say "NYAAH NYAAH NYAHH... Go ahead and flame me - I'll just delete your >e-mails!" > >The other nice thing is the "Filters" function Netscape Communicator (let's >see... If >'SENDER' contains 'pmiller' then 'DELETE MESSAGE'). Great, all better. > >Gary McCormick >San Jose, CA > >> >> I'm sure some folks will be offended. Frankly I don't care, and I >> can assure you that I will, as always, just delete your >"insightful" > comments without even reading them. WHY? BECAUSE I >ONLY >> READ THE ROADSTER CONTENT EMAILS! Flame me ALL YOU >> WANT. I'm pretty tired of all this drivel on what should be a >VERY > SPECIFIC LIST. Again, YOU ARE CHOKING MY EMAIL! >> >> BTW, while I respect and appreciate you task, shame on >you, > List Master, for letting this list get so ENTIRELY out of >hand! >> From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 11:49:28 2000 From: "Laury, Victor" To: "'datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net'" Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:48:16 -0700 Subject: Roadster poetry You know, pmiller's anti poetry statements have reminded me of some of the poems of the past few years. Here's two from our own Leisure Suit Terry. I've been thinking of asking Terry to collaborate on a roadster song. Sung to the Tune of "Mamma's Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to be Cowboys", titled "Guys Don't Let your Fairladies Turn in to AutoXers" WINTER Boxes on the hood Jack stands in a cold garage Waiting for a part SPRING Soft rain falls on me No top, many miles from home Soggy seat, wet pants SUMMER Top down and blue skies Bright sun and wind in your hair Roadsters at their best FALL Autumn leaves drift down Warm feet, cold nose, coat and hat Back home before dark Sonnet 311 Oh, roadster mine, so powerful, so swift, I love to hear your engine sing its song. While Others chide, "Of senses you're berift.", I choose you for my trips, both short and long. You stop, you go, you back, you turn with ease, Those Others never understand our fun, And when I stow your top to catch the breeze, They watch with envy as we greet the sun. You age with grace, a feast for classic eye. Your simple, rugged heart beats strong and true. While parts for you are sometimes very high, to have you sitting, broken, leaves me blue. And if that day arrives when we must part, a bit of you will stay within my heart. Leisure Suit Terry From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 11:52:04 2000 From: andycost@att.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 17:51:27 +0000 Subject: Re: List Clutter Ode to a camchain guide Oh Evil-L don't fail me now! Pulling out from the timing lights with 60 seconds left. Oh Evil-L don't fail me now! Red line in three gears with 45 seconds left. Oh Evil-L don't fail me now! Accelerate through the slalom with 30 seconds left. Oh Evil-L don't fail me now! High speed chicanes with 15 seconds left. Oh Evil-L don't fail me now! Mad rush to the finish line with no time left. Oh Evil-L don't fail me now! > Hmmmm. > > > I admit that I am primarily a lurker on this list, but I have been a > member of it for about 5 years, so here goes.... > > > The internet and email is a wonderful thing -- no doubt. I approve > and laud everything that it is. > > > BUT! > > > I must tell you that I just checked my email after just two days. I > received 70 email messages, all from the Roadster email list. Of > these 70, about 1/3 at most, or about 23%, have some fleeting > Roadster content. Now I DO appreciate the "OT" designation, but I > disagree with the idea. The Roadster list is for Roadster content. > THAT IS THE IDEA BEHIND TOPIC ORIENTED EMAIL LISTS, > after all. I joined the Roadster email list for ROADSTER > information and content. > > > Not for political commentary. > > > Not for information about other cars. > > > Not for poetry. > > > Not for cutsey stories. > > > Not for jokes. > > > I joined the ROADSTER email list, oddly enough, for ROADSTER > content. A BIG thank you, BTW, for those of you who STICK to > topic and provide USEFUL information to help us with our cars! You > KNOW who you are and I, for one, appreciate you! > > > Again, I point out that the internet, email lists, and news groups etc. > are AVAILABLE to EVERYONE -- the GREAT thing about the internet! > > I'm on this list for INFORMATIVE and HELPFUL discussion about > ROADSTERS! I do NOT care what the poetry, political, other car > writers, etc. say. Just give me ROADSTER CONTENT! PLEASE! The > rest of you, FIND ANOTHER GROUP! YOU ARE CHOKING MY > EMAIL! PLEASE take your political commentary, information about > other cars, poetry, cutsey stories, and jokes ELSEWHERE! I am > CERTAIN you can find a viable and informative group for your > discussion and interests. The Roadster list, I have always hoped, is > about ROADSTERS! > > > Now I am SURE this email will generate a whole lot of discussion > about what is or is not "appropriate" on the Roadster email list. > Obviously, my view is ROADSTER CONTENT. > > > I'm sure some folks will be offended. Frankly I don't care, and I > can assure you that I will, as always, just delete your "insightful" > comments without even reading them. WHY? BECAUSE I ONLY > READ THE ROADSTER CONTENT EMAILS! Flame me ALL YOU > WANT. I'm pretty tired of all this drivel on what should be a VERY > SPECIFIC LIST. Again, YOU ARE CHOKING MY EMAIL! > > > BTW, while I respect and appreciate you task, shame on you, > List Master, for letting this list get so ENTIRELY out of hand! > > > All the BEST! > > > P > > > Please note my new email address! > > pmiller@megapathdsl.net From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 12:16:17 2000 From: Roman Rist To: Teddy Seidenfeld , Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:15:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: roadster list 2000 registry hello all! no poetry, no stories here ( I reseve that for my website) Teddy Seidenfeld sent me today pics of his roadsters ( thanks Teddy ) Man oh Man, what a cool hardtop!!! I want one! pics will go up on the website in the next day or so. the top is a parrish smooth hard top with no goofy portholes. Roman Btw, the list is ok with me even with all the (ot) stuff, I do understand the guys point of veiw and dont think we should be too hard on him for having it...He's entitled ===== ristguitars@yahoo.com http://www.geocities.com/roadsterregistry/index.html http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=379995 __________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 15:30:37 2000 From: RoadsteRob@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, datsunroadsters@egroups.com Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 17:29:44 EDT Subject: BRE Webpage update Dear all No poetry but plenty of Roadster content. Firstly I've been away from the list about a week - getting withdrawal symptoms - still reinventing my life - down to the last two candidates out of 60 for magazine editor and webpublisher job. The final interview is next week. Thanks for everyone's good wishes last time. Whilst putting my CV/appraisal together I just had to complete this latest web update - the BRE pages have been niggling at me for a little while now, especially when a few errors off the pages found their way into GRM (how did that happen?). Now, with great help and enthusiasm from Peter Brock himself, plus a little more research, I would hope that the pages are the closest to the definitive BRE roadster story that's been written to date. Check out why BRE and John Morton headed East in 1970, check out why Pete Brock switched John Morton from D to C Production in 1970. There's also a BRE Roadster's specifications page. URL:- http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/BRE.htm In addition, one of the BRE roadsters was campaigned to two National Championships by Bob McQueen in 1970/1971. Before I get stopped by Mark mid senten....see how the privateer STAMPED on the factory Triumphs two years running even though Triumph had based their ad campaign around an expected DP title. URL:- http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/BobMcQueen.htm (or linked through the new BRE pages) Pete Brock has also helped enormously with some fascinating info on his pre-Datsun BRE years with Hino which will be completed in a short while - some great info and pics - worth seeing when it's up there. Regards and enjoy Rob From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 16:22:56 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:21:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Japenese Roadsters Hello All, Today instead of working I have been perusing the pages of the Japenese roadsters owners club SEROC. I was curious about how roadster owners in Japan decked out their cars. I was rather let down in that they all appear to be going for that bone-stock original look?? Unless I missed those shots onthe page. Funny thing about that page.. not a whole lot of pictures of roadsters?? I couldn't find anything like a close-up of the different members cars. I was hoping to get some cool customization ideas.. maybe I will try the Aussie owners next. Daniel 69 2000 SF CA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 16:25:04 2000 From: RIckSRL@cs.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:23:23 EDT Subject: Re: List Clutter Hey! You folks are cluttering up my inbox with e-mails about too much e-mail! Yikes! Rick Stayner 69 2000 Harrisburg, Pa From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 16:29:09 2000 From: "Robin Krause" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 22:28:32 GMT Subject: My poetry My roadster is dead It needs a new head My poetry's bad It makes me so sad It's parked in the grass I'm a pain in the a** _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 16:29:50 2000 From: "Stephen McCartney" To: SRAPL311@aol.com Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 22:29:06 GMT Subject: Re: It Is Not What you Weigh, but Weight Distribution I'm not the expert here, but I asked that very question of Lou. He said that it wasn't a problem, provided you took off exactly the same amount of metal at all points - easy to do if you have a properly set up (I'd expect computer controlled) lathe. Also, he mentioned that there was so much scope for that, seeing as the roadster motors are "truly overengineered" (his words). Tell you what, I'll get more details of how he goes about it, and post them for you. It's a real shame he's not on the list (though he'd have a heart attack from some of the mods you guys do - he's pretty conservative regarding these little cars!) Cheers, Steve (68 2000 Solex) >From: SRAPL311@aol.com >To: sgam@hotmail.com >Subject: Re: It Is Not What you Weigh, but Weight Distribution >Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 06:09:33 EDT > >Steve, what will that do to vibration? >Larry _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 16:37:26 2000 From: RoadsteRob@aol.com To: dneuman@stars.sfsu.edu, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:35:27 EDT Subject: Re: Japanese Roadsters Hi Apart from the Zs, the Japanese don't seem to customise their classics, unless it means a set of fancy Watanabes. Like us British they believe that a classic is meant to look how it looked when it first rolled out of the factory. Anything else is sacrilege. (This comes from one whose roof has been hacksawed off his 260Z). Rob The Classic Fairlady Roadster Register From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 16:59:47 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: dneuman@stars.sfsu.edu, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:58:51 EDT Subject: Re: Japenese Roadsters In a message dated 10/12/00 3:25:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dneuman@stars.sfsu.edu writes: << I was rather let down in that they all appear to be going for that bone-stock original look?? >> When I was working on the '99 calendar I met a gentleman, a Japanese gentleman that offered to be my distributor in Japan as he was very much into the Classic Car scene and he also happened to have a few shops in Japan too. But he also told me that in order for me to sell calendars in Japan I would need to have primarily stock cars. In Japan they look away from major modification on classics. So I am not surprised when I dont see any modified classics in Japanese Classic car mags such as the magazine, Old Timer. Michael "Calspeed" Carion From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 17:06:25 2000 From: "Stephen McCartney" To: dneuman@stars.sfsu.edu Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 23:05:55 GMT Subject: Re: Japenese Roadsters Hi Daniel, You won't get much joy in Australia, either. Keep in mind, there aren't many of these cars left (I think we got about 1300 roadsters all up - I'll check that, it might be 1300 2000's[ALL SOLEX!! - Eat your hearts out 8^) ] ) here. So predominantly, the guys here try to keep them more or less original - except for the odd engine transplant, or different carb setups. A lot have gone to 15 inch wheels, but that's no big deal. Lou Mondello was even disapproving of my intention to change to a bigger alternator, so I could run my driving lights without killing the battery. (I've got a pair of aircraft landing lights on the front - instant daylight!) But I haven't met many of the guys in the club here, yet, so if I hear of anything interesting, I'll let you know! Cheers, Steve (68 2000 Solex) Melbourne, DU >From: Daniel Neuman >Reply-To: Daniel Neuman >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Japenese Roadsters >Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:21:10 -0700 (PDT) > >Hello All, > Today instead of working I have been perusing the pages of the Japenese >roadsters owners club SEROC. I was curious about how roadster owners in >Japan decked out their cars. I was rather let down in that they all appear >to be going for that bone-stock original look?? Unless I missed those shots >onthe page. Funny thing about that page.. not a whole lot of pictures >of roadsters?? I couldn't find anything like a close-up of the different >members cars. I was hoping to get some cool customization ideas.. maybe I >will try the Aussie owners next. > Daniel 69 2000 > SF CA > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 17:19:25 2000 From: Roman Rist To: datsun roadsters Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:19:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: clutter My roadster has a leak, but thank god it doesn't squeak! It starts in the morning, and it starts at night, sure glad I got the timing right! sometimes people ask, "is that an MG"? I reply, "gee, what a moron are thee"! needs a paint job, so when I drive it, I don't look like a slob! but at least, it is not red, for if it were, I'd shoot myself in the head! There! like it or not, My Roadster Poem. Roman Rist ===== ristguitars@yahoo.com http://www.geocities.com/roadsterregistry/index.html http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=379995 __________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 17:41:13 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:36:12 -0400 Subject: New Grease Fitting Found!!!!!!! I rebuilt the original tranny for my 66 and saw a zerk fitting for the shifter mechanism!!!!! BTW, the tranny rebuild went smoothly and I am proud to say that I had no extra parts left when I bolted it up tight. The biggest pain was cleaning all the parts and getting everything so dirty including me. Gear oil goes solid after many years and tooth brushes and a lacquer thinner bath seems to help, but still a lot of cleaning. Took me about 12 hours from beginning to end but I took my time and made sure everything was to spec. Glad I bought additional external circlips of various thicknesses. The next rebuild "should" go faster. Mike From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 17:49:08 2000 From: "Kyle Hagemann" To: "datsun roadsters" Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:47:30 -0700 Subject: Re: clutter Once I had a lil' sixteen; but then a big two-kay- Never have been happy, friends, since that fateful day. Getting into a two-thousand, may have been an err, Going to try to rectify, with a new corvair! HA! Kyle From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 17:50:58 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: , Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:45:59 -0400 Subject: Re: List Clutter That's what the delete button is for. I delete plenty of threads when they are of no concern to me. I send jokes occassionaly that are car related and everyone needs a laugh a day or you'll lose your mind in todays world. Plenty of chatter and that's good. The world, whether we like it or not, does not revolve around Roadsters but around people we care about and if you're not rich - work. UGH! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 12:09 AM Subject: List Clutter > Hmmmm. > > > I admit that I am primarily a lurker on this list, but I have been a > member of it for about 5 years, so here goes.... > > > The internet and email is a wonderful thing -- no doubt. I approve > and laud everything that it is. > > > BUT! > > > I must tell you that I just checked my email after just two days. I > received 70 email messages, all from the Roadster email list. Of > these 70, about 1/3 at most, or about 23%, have some fleeting > Roadster content. Now I DO appreciate the "OT" designation, but I > disagree with the idea. The Roadster list is for Roadster content. > THAT IS THE IDEA BEHIND TOPIC ORIENTED EMAIL LISTS, > after all. I joined the Roadster email list for ROADSTER > information and content. > > > Not for political commentary. > > > Not for information about other cars. > > > Not for poetry. > > > Not for cutsey stories. > > > Not for jokes. > > > I joined the ROADSTER email list, oddly enough, for ROADSTER > content. A BIG thank you, BTW, for those of you who STICK to > topic and provide USEFUL information to help us with our cars! You > KNOW who you are and I, for one, appreciate you! > > > Again, I point out that the internet, email lists, and news groups etc. > are AVAILABLE to EVERYONE -- the GREAT thing about the internet! > > I'm on this list for INFORMATIVE and HELPFUL discussion about > ROADSTERS! I do NOT care what the poetry, political, other car > writers, etc. say. Just give me ROADSTER CONTENT! PLEASE! The > rest of you, FIND ANOTHER GROUP! YOU ARE CHOKING MY > EMAIL! PLEASE take your political commentary, information about > other cars, poetry, cutsey stories, and jokes ELSEWHERE! I am > CERTAIN you can find a viable and informative group for your > discussion and interests. The Roadster list, I have always hoped, is > about ROADSTERS! > > > Now I am SURE this email will generate a whole lot of discussion > about what is or is not "appropriate" on the Roadster email list. > Obviously, my view is ROADSTER CONTENT. > > > I'm sure some folks will be offended. Frankly I don't care, and I > can assure you that I will, as always, just delete your "insightful" > comments without even reading them. WHY? BECAUSE I ONLY > READ THE ROADSTER CONTENT EMAILS! Flame me ALL YOU > WANT. I'm pretty tired of all this drivel on what should be a VERY > SPECIFIC LIST. Again, YOU ARE CHOKING MY EMAIL! > > > BTW, while I respect and appreciate you task, shame on you, > List Master, for letting this list get so ENTIRELY out of hand! > > > All the BEST! > > > P > > > Please note my new email address! > > pmiller@megapathdsl.net From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 17:55:06 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Terry and Donna Cost" , Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:50:07 -0400 Subject: Re: TSD Rallies and other stuff My MGB club is well known for staging rallies since the mid 50s. They've got all kinds of neat timing gizmos for us stage workers. All the timers, and there are many, are accurate to a thousandth of a second and are all calibrated to each other. Plus we get neat radios to talk to each other with. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Terry and Donna Cost To: Datsun Roadsters Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 12:25 AM Subject: TSD Rallies and other stuff > Back a long time ago, when dinosaurs roamed the earth, a good friend and I > did TSD rallies in his 1600. It was a little cramped after about three > hours, and we missed a few markers when we used the hardtop because of the > limited visibility (our excuse, anyway), but we had a lot of fun, won a few > times, and remained friends. It's like bridge clubs. Most husband-wife > teams become ex-husband ex-wife teams because they can't help rehashing past > mistakes. We took one leg at a time, and promptly forgot it. My friend > drove and I navigated. When we used a car with more creature comforts we > had just as much fun. My present roadster wouldn't be a good ride because I > have no odometer and a 5.13 rear end, which is really tough on mathematical > calculations. I guess they still do math in rallies. Electronic gadgets > may have obsoleted the navigator's job. > > Enough of this frivolity. I need to tell you about the TDROC Fall Fling, > which this year will be in the Rockport/Corpus Christi area, October 21st > and 22nd. We plan to ride the free ferry to Mustang Island (that part of > the barrier islands between Galveston Island and Padre Island), see the > Texas State Aquarium, the USS Lexington aircraft carrier, possibly the > Pinta, Nina, or Santa Maria replicas, and we may even get to see if the > Corpus police do roadster profiling. All that and more. Our new TDROC > website > > http://members.home.net/cehubbard/tdroc/ > > has more details, or email me for further instructions. > > I saw some interesting ways to plumb cold air into autocross cars at Topeka. > Home improvement stores carry semi-rigid "bubble wrap" insulation that can > be fastened to an aluminum frame to make a cold box that fits in the engine > compartment. You could wrap the insulation around RV type sewer hose (Wal > Mart) and build a cold box around the stock filter housing, with the sewer > hose leading to the grill opening. Most of the setups had a pressure relief > system so you wouldn't overfeed the carbs with air at speed and lean out the > mixture. I'm going to play with those ideas and if I come up with a good > system I'll let you know. > > > Leisure Suit Terry > > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 18:04:36 2000 From: David & Candy Pina To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 17:08:13 -0700 Subject: R-2000? Techies, I understand a 5 bearing R16 can be converted to a 2000 by swapping in an H 20 crankshaft, giving longer stroke. Don't you also have to change the connecting rods? What else? Anyone ever run this engine combination on a dyno and obtain H.P. and torque figures? David Pina From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 18:17:47 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:11:51 -0400 Subject: The Last Open Road For those of you into sports car racing from the early fifties and who just love to read about racing I highly suggest the above novel written by Burt Levy. It's really great and puts a smile on your face. Lots of great characters and of course cars. It revolves around a gas station, in of all places, Passaic New Jersey. Mike Sorry no Roadster content!!!!!!!!!!!!! From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 18:21:07 2000 From: Pamela Pepoy To: Dwight Claassen Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 17:29:17 -0700 Subject: Re: List Clutter Hi Dwight, .."list abusers"? Is this another mutatation or deviant form of E self abuse? Is there a 12 step program? Does this explain the dramatic rise in sticky keyboards? Where do I sig.... Ok, Ok, Ok, I'll stop. I have to install my fly wheel with some NEW bolts. Almost used those old sticky ones. Ok, Ok, I'll stop! Focus, Focus...ONLY roadster stuff....Only roadster stuff. Bye, Guy 67.5 SPL Tempe, AZ Dwight Claassen wrote: > Ben Zech wrote: > > > Yea, yea, yea....go back to your corner and lurk > > Well, I only use the list when necessary. Does that make me a lurker? > Perhaps > we need to give you guys a name. Remember, there are a whole lot more > of us > 'lurkers' out here then there are of you list abusers. > ROADSTER CONTENT; one front quarter panel chrome trim piece for '68 > 2k. New, > with blue shrink wrap still attached. Make offer. > > LURKER, and damn proud of it!! > Dwight Claassen > 68 2k From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 18:25:50 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Dziuba, Larry" , Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:20:52 -0400 Subject: Re: Roadster in the press (Hello, pmiller!! Actual Roadster content here!) You toooooo????????? ----- Original Message ----- From: Dziuba, Larry To: ; sidney raper Cc: ; Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 11:55 AM Subject: RE: Roadster in the press (Hello, pmiller!! Actual Roadster content here!) > Good Morning Gary, Actually mine came w/ a Nissan factory optioned polar > bear fur lined set of seats w/ white weasel covered head rests. The tires > were also lined w/ porcupine quills for better traction in winter > conditions. Larry in Calgary. > > -----Original Message----- > From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com > [mailto:svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 9:20 AM > To: sidney raper > Cc: datsunroadsters@egroups.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: Roadster in the press (Hello, pmiller!! Actual Roadster > content here!) > > > Late getting to this subject, I know, but my company's "stoopid" proxy > servers have been > hosed on and off for a couple of days and I couldn't follow the link. > > Anyway - did anyone else notice some of the inconsistencies in this article? > For example: > > " "Only 200 with the Solex option were imported a year and only to Canada > and Australia," > reports Mr. Boettcher." > > Maybe I'm all wet, but weren't the Solex cars imported into/available in the > good ol' US > of A, also? > > and... > > "I'm keeping the interior original," he says with a smile, "I prefer leather > to vinyl, > even if it's worn." > > What, were you Canucks getting an interior option that wasn't available > south of the > border (or the equator), or was the original owner of my '70 2000 a > cheapskate who didn't > shell out for the leather interior option? > > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > -------------- > > sidney raper wrote: > > > Hey, > > > > Does anyone know this guy? > > > > http://www.ottawacitizen.com/wheels/autobiography/991008/2967296.html > > > > Sid > > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 18:30:39 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:25:45 -0400 Subject: Re: Roadster in the press (Hello, pmiller!! Actual Roadster content here!) Gary, I do believe Canadian, Aussie, actually the rest of the world probably, came factory with Solexes as an option. In the US it was a "dealer installed" option as a result of emission laws, however I did hear that 67.5s came with Solexes from the factory. Leather never!!!!!! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: To: sidney raper Cc: ; Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 11:19 AM Subject: Re: Roadster in the press (Hello, pmiller!! Actual Roadster content here!) > Late getting to this subject, I know, but my company's "stoopid" proxy servers have been > hosed on and off for a couple of days and I couldn't follow the link. > > Anyway - did anyone else notice some of the inconsistencies in this article? For example: > > " "Only 200 with the Solex option were imported a year and only to Canada and Australia," > reports Mr. Boettcher." > > Maybe I'm all wet, but weren't the Solex cars imported into/available in the good ol' US > of A, also? > > and... > > "I'm keeping the interior original," he says with a smile, "I prefer leather to vinyl, > even if it's worn." > > What, were you Canucks getting an interior option that wasn't available south of the > border (or the equator), or was the original owner of my '70 2000 a cheapskate who didn't > shell out for the leather interior option? > > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------ > > sidney raper wrote: > > > Hey, > > > > Does anyone know this guy? > > > > http://www.ottawacitizen.com/wheels/autobiography/991008/2967296.html > > > > Sid > > _________________________________________________________________________ > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 18:33:37 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Roman Rist" Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:28:23 -0400 Subject: Re: Roadster in the press Maybe in Canada they think vinyl is leather!!!!!!!!! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Roman Rist To: Cc: datsun roadsters Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 1:13 PM Subject: Re: Roadster in the press > > Anyway - did anyone else notice some of the inconsistencies in this > > article? For example: > > > " "Only 200 with the Solex option were imported a year and only to > > Canada and Australia," > > reports Mr. Boettcher." > > > Maybe I'm all wet, but weren't the Solex cars imported into/available > > in the good ol' US > > of A, also? > > > > > > "I'm keeping the interior original," he says with a smile, "I prefer > > leather to vinyl, > > even if it's worn." > > here are my 2 cents on this; > > What we have here is a very proud roadster owner who may or may not be > informed and knowledgeable about his car. > He had the good fortune to collide with a very uninformed reporter. > intentionally or not, a little bullshit occurred. > those in the know, we see through the inconsistencys, to the layman it > is an article that is favorable to the roadster. I bet at least one > person that read that said "I gotta get one of those"! > everyone wins! > > Roman Rist > > ===== > ristguitars@yahoo.com > http://www.geocities.com/roadsterregistry/index.html > > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=379995 > > __________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 18:35:22 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: dneuman@stars.sfsu.edu, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:34:51 EDT Subject: Re: Japenese Roadsters SEROC is Japanese? Wow! I did not know that I relocated!! ;-> Sid Rapersan SEROC member >From: Daniel Neuman >Reply-To: Daniel Neuman >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Japenese Roadsters >Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:21:10 -0700 (PDT) > >Hello All, > Today instead of working I have been perusing the pages of the Japenese >roadsters owners club SEROC. I was curious about how roadster owners in >Japan decked out their cars. I was rather let down in that they all appear >to be going for that bone-stock original look?? Unless I missed those shots >onthe page. Funny thing about that page.. not a whole lot of pictures >of roadsters?? I couldn't find anything like a close-up of the different >members cars. I was hoping to get some cool customization ideas.. maybe I >will try the Aussie owners next. > Daniel 69 2000 > SF CA > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 18:37:30 2000 From: Marc Tyler To: "datsun roadsters" Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:43:25 -0500 Subject: waxing cars Kyle Hagemann wrote >Once I had a lil' sixteen; >but then a big two-kay- 2 limericks: Somewhere 'round about '87 I got my SP 311 For pmiller it's taxing This poetic waxing For some folks it's almost like heaven It can be like the flames of perdition, To fix an unruly ignition The distributor cap, Or the coil or the ZAP!!! Why the hell did I not take up fishin' BURMA SHAVE!! -Marc T. ========================================================================== Marc Tyler TDROC 1970 1600 #SPL311-31016 1965 L-320 #L320 013642 (the misspent ute) http://datsun_marc.tripod.com/cgi-bin/Datsun_homepage.html Sisterdale TX From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 18:45:04 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "David & Candy Pina" , Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:39:48 -0400 Subject: Re: R-2000? Dave, Yes ya gotta change the rods and use 2L pistons so the compression remains reasonable. BTW, you can use a 2L crank and have the nose machined like the 1.6L. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: David & Candy Pina To: Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 8:08 PM Subject: R-2000? > Techies, > I understand a 5 bearing R16 can be converted to a 2000 by swapping in > an H 20 crankshaft, giving longer stroke. Don't you also have to change > the connecting rods? What else? Anyone ever run this engine combination > on a dyno and obtain H.P. and torque figures? > David Pina > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 18:57:09 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:52:15 -0400 Subject: For Free Anybody need a 4 prong starter harness????? I put on new connections, and I might add, a neat slip on, and then realized my car uses the 3 prong style. Oh well Mike From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 19:04:24 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: datsunmike@nyc.rr.com, ristguitars@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 21:02:54 EDT Subject: Re: Roadster in the press It sounds like we have found out the mystery of Naugahyde. Now the question is - what does this Nauga look like that is being killed by the millions for their hydes? Roadster content. I am going to update the items for sale page on my website soon - I really need to clean out the garage! Sid >From: "datsunmike" >Reply-To: "datsunmike" >To: "Roman Rist" >CC: "Datsun Roadster List" >Subject: Re: Roadster in the press >Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:28:23 -0400 > >Maybe in Canada they think vinyl is leather!!!!!!!!! > >Mike >----- Original Message ----- >From: Roman Rist >To: >Cc: datsun roadsters >Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 1:13 PM >Subject: Re: Roadster in the press > > > > > Anyway - did anyone else notice some of the inconsistencies in this > > > article? For example: > > > > > " "Only 200 with the Solex option were imported a year and only to > > > Canada and Australia," > > > reports Mr. Boettcher." > > > > > Maybe I'm all wet, but weren't the Solex cars imported into/available > > > in the good ol' US > > > of A, also? > > > > > > > > > > "I'm keeping the interior original," he says with a smile, "I prefer > > > leather to vinyl, > > > even if it's worn." > > > > here are my 2 cents on this; > > > > What we have here is a very proud roadster owner who may or may not be > > informed and knowledgeable about his car. > > He had the good fortune to collide with a very uninformed reporter. > > intentionally or not, a little bullshit occurred. > > those in the know, we see through the inconsistencys, to the layman it > > is an article that is favorable to the roadster. I bet at least one > > person that read that said "I gotta get one of those"! > > everyone wins! > > > > Roman Rist > > > > ===== > > ristguitars@yahoo.com > > http://www.geocities.com/roadsterregistry/index.html > > > > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=379995 > > > > __________________________________________________ > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 19:05:57 2000 From: Doris To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:02:50 -0700 Subject: Re: List Clutter Hell, I created this address just for the Roadster group so it didn't mix with my other stuff. Soooooo, you all just keep talking it up please because I learn something new all the time. Damn, you should see how huge my trash file is! I sort it every now and then for reference material. Feel free to delete this! From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 19:58:46 2000 From: Russell Southwell To: pmiller@megapathdsl.net Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:52:25 -0700 Subject: Re: List Clutter I like it just the way it is, I do have a delete key. Russ Southwell 70 1600 pmiller@megapathdsl.net wrote: > Hmmmm. > > I admit that I am primarily a lurker on this list, but I have been a > member of it for about 5 years, so here goes.... > > The internet and email is a wonderful thing -- no doubt. I approve > and laud everything that it is. > > BUT! > > I must tell you that I just checked my email after just two days. I > received 70 email messages, all from the Roadster email list. Of > these 70, about 1/3 at most, or about 23%, have some fleeting > Roadster content. Now I DO appreciate the "OT" designation, but I > disagree with the idea. The Roadster list is for Roadster content. > THAT IS THE IDEA BEHIND TOPIC ORIENTED EMAIL LISTS, > after all. I joined the Roadster email list for ROADSTER > information and content. > > Not for political commentary. > > Not for information about other cars. > > Not for poetry. > > Not for cutsey stories. > > Not for jokes. > > I joined the ROADSTER email list, oddly enough, for ROADSTER > content. A BIG thank you, BTW, for those of you who STICK to > topic and provide USEFUL information to help us with our cars! You > KNOW who you are and I, for one, appreciate you! > > Again, I point out that the internet, email lists, and news groups etc. > are AVAILABLE to EVERYONE -- the GREAT thing about the internet! > > I'm on this list for INFORMATIVE and HELPFUL discussion about > ROADSTERS! I do NOT care what the poetry, political, other car > writers, etc. say. Just give me ROADSTER CONTENT! PLEASE! The > rest of you, FIND ANOTHER GROUP! YOU ARE CHOKING MY > EMAIL! PLEASE take your political commentary, information about > other cars, poetry, cutsey stories, and jokes ELSEWHERE! I am > CERTAIN you can find a viable and informative group for your > discussion and interests. The Roadster list, I have always hoped, is > about ROADSTERS! > > Now I am SURE this email will generate a whole lot of discussion > about what is or is not "appropriate" on the Roadster email list. > Obviously, my view is ROADSTER CONTENT. > > I'm sure some folks will be offended. Frankly I don't care, and I > can assure you that I will, as always, just delete your "insightful" > comments without even reading them. WHY? BECAUSE I ONLY > READ THE ROADSTER CONTENT EMAILS! Flame me ALL YOU > WANT. I'm pretty tired of all this drivel on what should be a VERY > SPECIFIC LIST. Again, YOU ARE CHOKING MY EMAIL! > > BTW, while I respect and appreciate you task, shame on you, > List Master, for letting this list get so ENTIRELY out of hand! > > All the BEST! > > P > > > Please note my new email address! > > pmiller@megapathdsl.net From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 19:59:19 2000 From: Ronnie Day To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:58:49 -0500 Subject: Re: (OT) The Last Open Road >For those of you into sports car racing from the early fifties and who just >love to read about racing I highly suggest the above novel written by Burt >Levy. It's really great and puts a smile on your face. Lots of great >characters and of course cars. It revolves around a gas station, in of all >places, Passaic New Jersey. Does anyone else remember a series back in the mid-60's by a guy named Felson or Felton. The first book in the series was called (I think) "The Red Car" and was about a late teen kid who was befriended by a European mechanic. They bought a wrecked MG-TC, rebuilt it, and the rest (as they say) was history. There were maybe four to six books in the series as I remember. That series, along with Road & Track, was what moved me away from drag racing toward sports cars. I'd like to find copies of those books and have them for my grand sons, heck maybe my grand daughters, to read. Interesting how some things really stick with you. FWIW, Ron Ronnie Day ronday@home.com ------------------ Dallas/Ft. Worth ------------------ '71 510 2-dr (Prepared Class Autocrosser) '73 510 2-dr (Street Toy) From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 20:05:16 2000 From: HIGHKIX4@aol.com To: datsunroadsters@onelist.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 22:04:42 EDT Subject: Windshield Washer Nozzle Gaskets This might just be for early cars, dont know what they look like on 68 and up. But, If you are rebuilding or in any way have a reason to fool with your washer nozzles, and the original gaskets are black dust fragments....go to the hardware store and get some kitchen sink valve seats. Hard rubber cone shaped things...just match for the right size, I had to drill out the hole in the center just a bit, but the nozzles now sit on thes tapered hard black rubber gaskets that look designed for the job, and cost 23cents each. Taper goes up, flat side down, and looks sharp. Yea, its a little thing, but just like about a thousand other little things........... Best Regards, Jim C. Chesapeake Va 67 pushrod 2L 5spd 72 1600 510 wagon From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 22:47:13 2000 From: "Mike Adams" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 22:54:41 +0000 Subject: waxin' too My favorite roadster is blondie she is pretty clean - no bondie she is great for a spin when my mood turns too grim for that reason she is rated mucho grande From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 23:08:22 2000 From: frankr@hwcn.org (Frank Roggeband) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 00:58:43 -0400 Subject: Roadster in the press I believe in Canada "Genuine Saskatchewan Sealskin" seats were a dealer installed option until the Prarie Seal was declared an endangered species. I am taking up a collection for the Save the Prarie Seal Foundation.... -- Frank Roggeband | 67.5 1600, 69 1600, 69 510, 71 510, 75 710, 93 KingCab Grimsby Ontario | Http://www.hwcn.org/~ae845/Profile.html Canada | email-->frankr@hwcn.org Electronics Technician and Datsun Enthusiast. From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 12 23:11:53 2000 From: "Steve Hill" To: Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 22:11:19 -0700 Subject: Re: Absolution from Sin Just dropped a check in the mail and I feel better already! Steve Hill Datsun Sports 2000 Gilbert, AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: Laury, Victor To: Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 9:56 AM Subject: Absolution from Sin > Feeling guity for pissing pmiller off? Sent just a few too many poems in did > you? Well there's a way to clean the slate of sin for another year. > Contibute to the list administration fund. As you might have seen, Mark > Bradakis is once again asking for a few alms to help on the operating costs > of this list. Team.Net must take up quite a bit of his time and we've all > benfited from it. Although the statistics aren't published, I can only hope > that the Datsun-Roadster list is holding up it's end and contributing more > than it's share to the list operating costs. > > So this is how it works. You can be absolved of you list sins. for a > donation up to $20.00 you can sin a little guilt free. For a contribution of > over $100, You can preach and complain all you want how the other "List > Abusers" have offended your mail reader. > > So lets help Mark out. Unlike Randy, We recieve the benifits of his efforts > every day. And his an alright guy even if he's a Triumph fan. > > Victor > 70 SRL 31113136 > Los Angeles > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=123073 > SoCalROC http://www.ameri-eagle.com/datsun/ > > Mark J. Bradakis wrote: > =============================== > > If you agree with what these lists are all about, I request that you take a > moment to send a check for five, ten, twenty dollars or whatever, payable to > Fat Chance Garage, to: > > > Fat Chance Garage > PO Box 58333 > Salt Lake City, UT 84158 > > > If you'd prefer, you can mail in Visa or Mastercard info, or fax it to me at > > 801-355-5438 > > > I strongly suggest you not use email to send credit card information. One > of > these days I'll get my parts business set up to take charge cards directly > over the net, maybe in time for the next pledge drive. And yes, I know > about > Paypal. > > If you are a starving student, or just spent your bucks on one more set of > race tires for the season, or you're sitting there staring at the stack of > bills that you generated getting your kids ready for school, don't worry. > I'm only asking for a couple of dozen subscribers to send in $20. You can > contribute at some future date. Stay tuned. > > As for me, I'll keep the lists flowing as best I can. Also, you have likely > noticed in the past that being such a disorganised, procrastinating flake, I > don't always get thank you notes, paper or email, out to contributors. I'll > work on being better at that for this round. > > Thanks, > > mjb. > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 13 00:09:59 2000 From: "Stephen McCartney" To: ristguitars@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 06:09:02 GMT Subject: Re: clutter There was a young man in Victoria Who test drove a car and said "Gloria! Little car you are red And before I am dead I'm determined to enjoy a lot more o' ya!" :-) So what's wrong with red cars, anyway? Steve (RED 68 2000! Originally red, too.) >From: Roman Rist >Reply-To: Roman Rist >To: datsun roadsters >Subject: clutter >Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:19:03 -0700 (PDT) > >My roadster has a leak, >but thank god it doesn't squeak! > >It starts in the morning, and it starts at night, >sure glad I got the timing right! > >sometimes people ask, "is that an MG"? >I reply, "gee, what a moron are thee"! > >needs a paint job, >so when I drive it, I don't look like a slob! > >but at least, it is not red, >for if it were, I'd shoot myself in the _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 13 00:22:55 2000 From: Roman Rist To: Stephen McCartney Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 23:22:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: clutter --- Stephen McCartney wrote: > > So what's wrong with red cars, anyway? Not enough of them have registered and sent in picures. ===== ristguitars@yahoo.com http://www.geocities.com/roadsterregistry/index.html http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=379995 __________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 13 03:15:48 2000 From: "IAS Net - Mitch Planck" To: Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:16:23 -0400 Subject: RE: List Clutter Seems to me that the original post was list clutter itself. -Mitch '69 1600 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 13 07:14:28 2000 From: Alan Bent To: roadster list Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 23:09:04 +1000 Subject: Silvia hubcaps A while back one of the list members was trying to sell a set of hubcaps that came with his Roadster that he thought may have been a set of Silvia hubcaps. If that person is still on the list could you please contact me off-list. Alan Bent - Flaxton, Queensland, Australia 1966 Fairlady SP311-01060 - * 1965 Silvia CSP311-70231 1966 Fairlady SP311-00925 - * 1964 Fairlady 4-SP310-00134 1964 Fairlady 4-SP310-00134 * 1964 Cedric Wagon 4-WP31-50620 1963 Bluebird P312-3-32984 * 1963 Bluebird P312-3-39741 1963 Cedric G31-3-07024 * 1964 Cedric Wagon 4-WP31-51579 1969 Super Six G130-005415 * Early Datsun Homepage http://www.geocities.com/olddat Nissan Silvia Homepage http://www.angelfire.com/ns/silvia Planet Cedric http://nav.to/planetcedric From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 13 07:14:28 2000 From: Alan Bent To: roadster list Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 23:09:13 +1000 Subject: list clutter poetry There once was a lurker called pmiller, Who thought his mail had too much filler, It is obvious to see, This guy should own an MGB, And stop being a Roadster list killer. From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 13 07:40:51 2000 From: "Taro Kusunose" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 06:40:15 PDT Subject: 68 parts on a 67 In an effort to try to save money, I am considering buying a 68 1600 as a parts car for my 67 1600's repair. From what I have read, changes between those years include the higher windshield, safety dash, and black dash trim. Is everything else (unrelated to those changes) interchangeable? I'm talking body panels, engine (or engine bits), trim pieces, etc.? I read somewhere in Rallye's catalog insert something to the effect that while the parts may look the same between those years, they are in fact very different. True? Although I might offend some of the purist restorers, I personally have no problem with building a 67-68 "franken-car"! Thanks. Taro in Seattle, WA 67 1600 _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 13 09:33:09 2000 From: "Charles Hubbard" To: "Datsun Roadster Mailing List \(E-mail\)" Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 10:28:28 -0500 Subject: Domes 1500 Pistons Has anyone every attempted to machine a domed piston into a flat top? I've put domes pistons on my 1500 because they were all that I could locate. Now the piston hits the head when I set it on the block without the gasket. Using the old metal gasket, it does not appear to lift but it's very close. Looks like the head is going to require significant modifications to work. I'm afraid that I will screw up the combustion chamber efficiency if I have the head ground to fit the piston. Not to mention the problem with possibly hitting a water jacket. I had my head rebuilt with new guides, hardened seats and triple angle cut valves. If there is enough material on the pistons, I thought that the machine shop could turn them into flat heads. Any ideas? Charlie Charles Hubbard 1964 SPL310 (1500) Flower Mound, TX http://members.home.net/cehubbard/tdroc/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 13 09:41:46 2000 From: "roadster" To: "Taro Kusunose" , Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 08:40:29 -0700 Subject: Re: 68 parts on a 67 Taro, Yes, many trim parts are different. Take the doors for instance. Different door handles both outside and inside. If you swap fenders you will have major problems with the fit with the doors and the upper rear corner of the fender. Rear bumpers are different. Gas cap different. Tail light housings different, although late model tail lights will fit the earlier models that have a push-in light housing. The engines have some differences. For example, earlier is a 3-main bearing, while the later engine is a 5-main bearing crank. Also some differences with metric and non-metric bolts. roadster ----- Original Message ----- From: "Taro Kusunose" To: Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 6:40 AM Subject: 68 parts on a 67 > In an effort to try to save money, I am considering buying a 68 1600 as a > parts car for my 67 1600's repair. From what I have read, changes between > those years include the higher windshield, safety dash, and black dash trim. > Is everything else (unrelated to those changes) interchangeable? I'm > talking body panels, engine (or engine bits), trim pieces, etc.? I read > somewhere in Rallye's catalog insert something to the effect that while the > parts may look the same between those years, they are in fact very > different. True? Although I might offend some of the purist restorers, I > personally have no problem with building a 67-68 "franken-car"! Thanks. > > Taro in Seattle, WA > 67 1600 > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 13 10:37:54 2000 From: "Greg Glass" To: Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:33:00 -0700 Subject: Re: [Fwd: 1967 SPLU Overheating Problem] boundary="------------C42862C3301796508789BE60" I have this problem...After I got my 3-row radiator put in, I was still running hot. The guy at the radiator shop had this cool Stanley laser or infrared temperature gauge that reads the water temperature in the motor just by aiming this light at the pipe or hose...my gauge was reading 250 but the Stanley tool was reading 210....this was after 20 minutes at idle in the 100 degree sun this summer. The PO put in a new guage, but perhaps he left the old sensor in...the shop thought that maybe the sensor didn't match the gauge. Could this be it? I plan on getting a new guage and sensor soon...I am told that I should dump the electrical one I have and get a mechancial one... Any thoughts? Greg Glass 66 1600 Burbank, CA ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:22:49 -0500 From: "Patrick J. Horne" Subject: Re: [Fwd: 1967 SPLU Overheating Problem] boundary="------------C42862C3301796508789BE60" Three other items to check: Is it REALLY overheating, or is the gauge way off? Try checking the temperature with a calibrated thermometer. What shape are your radiator hoses in? Take them off and look through them to see if there are any bulges on the inside. Also, the lower hose may be colapsing under certain conditions. As for the water loss, have you checked your heater core? They can leak and since they are out of sight, get overlooked quite often. Check the heater hoses while you are at it. Peace, Pat ------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Glass Senior Vice President - VHS/DVD Sales BCI Eclipse / Brentwood Communications 805-375-9998 805-375-9908 fax gglass@e-bci.com From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 13 10:46:09 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: ristguitars@yahoo.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 12:42:06 EDT Subject: Re: clutter Spinning 6 plus on the track Raspy exhaust to my back A honking set of twins in front Solex power has great grunt! Breathing down on big bore muscle Through the curves I make more hustle But on the straight they come alive "Gotta catch them at Turn 5" The brakes are getting hot again. I cant dive as deep in 9 and 10 I hope the tires hold for a few more laps I might be able to make a pass 93 in third gear. Yes! My Roadster runs with all the best I press on hard, Turns 2 and 3 Set my goal to take the lead Here is 5 and "Big Bore's" loose I take it tight and steal his goose I shut the door in a cloud of dust Take the lap without any fuss The sun is down and its time to go Load the trailer. Its time to go Folks wander to watch, "Wow what a great show" "Datsun Roadsters... didnt you know?" Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 13 11:20:37 2000 From: "Patrick J. Horne" To: "Greg Glass" Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 12:19:12 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fwd: 1967 SPLU Overheating Problem] boundary="------------C42862C3301796508789BE60" > I have this problem...After I got my 3-row radiator put in, I was still > running hot. > The guy at the radiator shop had this cool Stanley laser or infrared > temperature gauge that reads the water temperature in the motor just by > aiming this light at the pipe or hose...my gauge was reading 250 but the > Stanley tool was reading 210....this was after 20 minutes at idle in the 100 > degree sun this summer. > > The PO put in a new guage, but perhaps he left the old sensor in...the shop > thought that maybe the sensor didn't match the gauge. Could this be it? Does your fuel gauge read correctly? It can be checked with a volt meter. There are 2 wires on the regulator, one goes to the ignition switch will will have about 13 Volts on it all the time. The other wire goes to the temperature gauge and fuel gauge. The voltage on that wire will pulse on and off about once every second or so. The regulator also must be making a solid electrical connection to the body. I suspect that the voltage on the gauge side is staying the same as the input side and not pulsing. If that is the case the regulator is stuck. Good luck. Peace, Pat > > I plan on getting a new guage and sensor soon...I am told that I should dump > the electrical one I have and get a mechancial one... The dealer sells the sender for between $20 and $30. I picked mine up from a foreign auto parts store for about $10. The brand was WAWD. > > Any thoughts? > > Greg Glass > 66 1600 > Burbank, CA > ----------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:22:49 -0500 > From: "Patrick J. Horne" > Subject: Re: [Fwd: 1967 SPLU Overheating Problem] > boundary="------------C42862C3301796508789BE60" > > Three other items to check: > > Is it REALLY overheating, or is the gauge way off? Try checking the > temperature with a calibrated thermometer. > > What shape are your radiator hoses in? Take them off and look through > them to see if there are any bulges on the inside. Also, the lower > hose may be colapsing under certain conditions. > > As for the water loss, have you checked your heater core? They can > leak and since they are out of sight, get overlooked quite often. > Check the heater hoses while you are at it. > > Peace, > Pat > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Greg Glass > Senior Vice President - VHS/DVD Sales > BCI Eclipse / Brentwood Communications > 805-375-9998 > 805-375-9908 fax > gglass@e-bci.com > -- - Support Habitat for Humanity, A "hand up", not a "hand out" - Pat Horne, Network Manager, Shop Supervisor, Future planner CS Dept, University of Texas, Austin, Tx. 78712 USA voice (512)471-9517, fax (512)471-8885 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 13 11:20:45 2000 From: Roman Rist To: Taro Kusunose Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 10:19:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: 68 parts on a 67 _________________________________________________________________________Taro, I don't think it is a good Idea to get a late model for parts for your 67. pretty sure it is a smog year, so you'll have a smog head, smog distributor, ect. I have in my 66 a set of 68 fenders, which I like (bigger flares) and 68 seats, which I like. seems like eveything else is a pain. don't do it unless the car is dirt cheap...just my opinion Roman ===== ristguitars@yahoo.com http://www.geocities.com/roadsterregistry/index.html http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=379995 __________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 13 13:13:05 2000 From: "Taro Kusunose" To: ristguitars@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 12:11:26 PDT Subject: Thanks to All (68 on 67) Thanks for all of the input. I have a true '67 (not '67.5), and after hearing all of the differences, I'll probably buy the 68 if the seller accepts a really good (for me) price. Once again, thanks all. Taro 67 1600 in Sea. WA _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 13 14:00:24 2000 From: "Ben Zech" To: CalSpeed@aol.com, ristguitars@yahoo.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 19:58:59 GMT Subject: Re: clutter Is that sung to the tune of "HOT ROD LINCOLN"? BZ >From: CalSpeed@aol.com >Reply-To: CalSpeed@aol.com >To: ristguitars@yahoo.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Re: clutter >Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 12:42:06 EDT > >Spinning 6 plus on the track >Raspy exhaust to my back >A honking set of twins in front >Solex power has great grunt! > >Breathing down on big bore muscle >Through the curves I make more hustle >But on the straight they come alive >"Gotta catch them at Turn 5" > >The brakes are getting hot again. >I cant dive as deep in 9 and 10 >I hope the tires hold for a few more laps >I might be able to make a pass > >93 in third gear. Yes! >My Roadster runs with all the best >I press on hard, Turns 2 and 3 >Set my goal to take the lead > >Here is 5 and "Big Bore's" loose >I take it tight and steal his goose >I shut the door in a cloud of dust >Take the lap without any fuss > >The sun is down and its time to go >Load the trailer. Its time to go >Folks wander to watch, "Wow what a great show" >"Datsun Roadsters... didnt you know?" > >Calspeed > > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 13 14:04:00 2000 From: RoadsteRob@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, datsunroadsters@egroups.com, Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 16:03:09 EDT Subject: BRE pages - another update Dear All Thanks for the feedback following yesterday's BRE update. As promised, the early BRE history is now complete. It includes an excellent summary by PB himself on his years running BRE Hino cars with Bob Dunham, an American actor who appeared in Japanese movies. Check out how PB first got involved with Japanese autos, how he campaigned the Hino to victory at the Times Mirror event at Riverside and how BRE first got involved with Datsun. Check out the Hino page through the main BRE page. http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/BRE.htm Regards Rob From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 13 14:28:54 2000 From: "Charles Hubbard" To: "Datsun Roadster Mailing List \(E-mail\)" Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 15:25:04 -0500 Subject: Thick Head Can anyone tell me the thickness tolerances for a 1500 head? My current head is @ 3.202 Also, I lost the address to the Datsun Roadster technical archives. Can someone send it to me. I saw this come across a week or so ago but thought that I had it marked. Charlie Charles Hubbard 1964 SPL310 (1500) Flower Mound, TX http://members.home.net/cehubbard/tdroc/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 13 14:53:00 2000 From: Jsk977@aol.com To: tyco1983@yahoo.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 16:51:48 EDT Subject: Re: 1/4 mile times Taylor, Back in the early 70s I turned 14.9 @93mph. 67.5 Solex with 4.62 Detroit Locker. I'm sure an experienced drag racer could have done a lot better since I smoked the tires all the way through 1st and into 2nd. Jerry Krakauer SRL311 00099 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 13 15:49:48 2000 From: "Terry and Donna Cost" To: "Datsun Roadsters" Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 15:51:37 -0500 Subject: True Poetry Some of you are pretending to be poets, and I know who you are! And Where you live! Here's some REAL poetry. This is haiku again. I haven't had the inspiration for another Elizabethan sonnet. Maybe later. Feel free to add cars as you see fit. Remember, 5, 7, 5, and it needs to express an emotion or paint a picture (or both) MGB Graceful curves and lines Lucas, Prince of Darkness reigns Walking home again Triumph Engine strong and true Bits and pieces fall away Love and Hate combine Roadster Not an "M" "G" "B" Competition fades behind Datsun rules the day Honda The "appliance" car Enter here and exit there never see the road Ferrari Testosterone rush money sex and imagery It has to be red Corvair Oil stains on the drive Fan belts shed along the way Chevy's "M" "G" "B" Leisure Suit Terry From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 13 16:12:35 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 18:11:55 EDT Subject: OT - License plates I found this interesting article that a few would like about the personal license plate. http://web.philly.com/content/inquirer/2000/10/11/front_page/TAGS11.htm Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 13 17:07:32 2000 From: David & Candy Pina To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 16:10:50 -0700 Subject: 1600/2000 rear end switch? Any 2000 owners want to trade their SU 2 liter stock differential for a stock 1600 differential? Sorry Calspeed not my posi. :-) David Pina From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 13 17:39:44 2000 From: PLETCH5@aol.com To: CalSpeed@aol.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 19:39:02 EDT Subject: Re: OT - License plates Hmmmm I wonder how much a "DATSTER" plate would go for? Ken DATSTER From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 13 18:03:59 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Greg Glass" , Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 19:59:05 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fwd: 1967 SPLU Overheating Problem] boundary="------------C42862C3301796508789BE60" Greg, The senders are the same for all years. Before going any further repalce the sender as my gauge is pretty accurate. 66 Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Greg Glass To: Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [Fwd: 1967 SPLU Overheating Problem] boundary="------------C42862C3301796508789BE60" > I have this problem...After I got my 3-row radiator put in, I was still > running hot. > The guy at the radiator shop had this cool Stanley laser or infrared > temperature gauge that reads the water temperature in the motor just by > aiming this light at the pipe or hose...my gauge was reading 250 but the > Stanley tool was reading 210....this was after 20 minutes at idle in the 100 > degree sun this summer. > > The PO put in a new guage, but perhaps he left the old sensor in...the shop > thought that maybe the sensor didn't match the gauge. Could this be it? > > I plan on getting a new guage and sensor soon...I am told that I should dump > the electrical one I have and get a mechancial one... > > Any thoughts? > > Greg Glass > 66 1600 > Burbank, CA > ----------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:22:49 -0500 > From: "Patrick J. Horne" > Subject: Re: [Fwd: 1967 SPLU Overheating Problem] > boundary="------------C42862C3301796508789BE60" > > Three other items to check: > > Is it REALLY overheating, or is the gauge way off? Try checking the > temperature with a calibrated thermometer. > > What shape are your radiator hoses in? Take them off and look through > them to see if there are any bulges on the inside. Also, the lower > hose may be colapsing under certain conditions. > > As for the water loss, have you checked your heater core? They can > leak and since they are out of sight, get overlooked quite often. > Check the heater hoses while you are at it. > > Peace, > Pat > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Greg Glass > Senior Vice President - VHS/DVD Sales > BCI Eclipse / Brentwood Communications > 805-375-9998 > 805-375-9908 fax > gglass@e-bci.com > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 13 18:07:44 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 20:02:46 -0400 Subject: Re: clutter I didn't know we had so many poets who owned Roadsters. It brings tears to my eyes. Real ones, not those bought from JC Whitneys. From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 13 18:15:24 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 20:10:16 -0400 Subject: Most stolen cars Most stolen cars in Los Angeles-Long Beach area: 1) Honda Accord 2) Toyota Camry 3) Honda Civic/CRX 4) Acura Integra 5) Toyota Pickup 4 X 2 6) Toyota Corolla 7) Jeep Wrangler 8) Ford Mustang 9) Nissan Sentra 10) Datsun Roadster From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 13 18:19:47 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: , Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 20:14:54 -0400 Subject: Re: OT - License plates Sounds like England with their "cherished" plate numbers. Right Rob???? Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 6:11 PM Subject: OT - License plates > I found this interesting article that a few would like about the personal > license plate. > http://web.philly.com/content/inquirer/2000/10/11/front_page/TAGS11.htm > > Calspeed > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 13 18:56:13 2000 From: Marc Tyler To: "Ben Zech" , , Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 20:02:03 -0500 Subject: Re: clutter Ben Zech wrote >Is that sung to the tune of "HOT ROD LINCOLN"? >BZ ...or "Maybelline"? From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 13 18:56:13 2000 From: Marc Tyler To: "datsunmike" , Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 20:02:05 -0500 Subject: Re: Most stolen cars datsunmike wrote >Most stolen cars in Los Angeles-Long Beach area: > >1) Honda Accord >2) Toyota Camry >3) Honda Civic/CRX >4) Acura Integra >5) Toyota Pickup 4 X 2 >6) Toyota Corolla >7) Jeep Wrangler >8) Ford Mustang >9) Nissan Sentra >10) Datsun Roadster > > > > > > NAAAAW! Really?!?!...I lived a bit north, in Burbank and North Hollywood, and my Jetta was stolen once and broken into countless times, but fortunately, my roadster was never touched...hmmm Jetta: Walking to my car Another broken window Wires hang from the dash From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 13 19:12:58 2000 From: "Thomas Walter" To: road Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 20:10:27 -0500 Subject: Re: Key 1054 where are you? John, Local dealers in Texas have pretty much tossed out the key cutters for anything prior to 1990 or so. ;-( Local locksmith is great with old Datsun keys. I had a single side key made up for a '70 510 from the key code... $6 for the first key, $3 for the next. ;-) Happy camper... Tom Walter Austin, TX > > I have an almost complete lock set except for one piece - the key! Can > > someone get a key cut to code 1054? > > The dealer should be able to do this. The dealer here, in fact, charges > less to make a key from the code, then to make it from another key. > > - -- John > John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 13 19:14:55 2000 From: Roman Rist To: datsunmike Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 18:14:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Most stolen cars Dude, what are you talking about? there aren't even enough roadsters to get statistical attention in LA. where did you get/make up this info? > datsunmike wrote > > >Most stolen cars in Los Angeles-Long Beach area: > > > >1) Honda Accord > >2) Toyota Camry > >3) Honda Civic/CRX > >4) Acura Integra > >5) Toyota Pickup 4 X 2 > >6) Toyota Corolla > >7) Jeep Wrangler > >8) Ford Mustang > >9) Nissan Sentra > >10) Datsun Roadster > > > > > > > > > > > > > NAAAAW! Really?!?!...I lived a bit north, in Burbank and North > Hollywood, and my Jetta was stolen once and broken into countless > times, > but fortunately, my roadster was never touched...hmmm > > Jetta: > Walking to my car > Another broken window > Wires hang from the dash __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 13 20:08:02 2000 From: "Victor Laury" To: Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 18:48:08 -0700 Subject: Fw: Stickers on your Dime I had to Forward this from the Blue birds list. My favorite is the last one. This all started on a "pick on the rice boys" thread. Seems like we share the same since of humor. ----- Original Message ----- From: MALDAT To: Kelvin R Dietz Cc: Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 10:39 PM Subject: Re: Stickers on your Dime "Get a dastun before one gets you" "munch munch rotarys for lunch" "You call that fast!" "Datsincredible" But best of all "Running in, Pass if you can" Malcolm From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 13 20:44:43 2000 From: SPL311RDST@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 22:44:08 EDT Subject: for all you "poets" out there Since several have shown their literary talents, thought you might enjoy this! http://www.smalltime.com/nowhere/rhubarb/haiku.cgi The "Haiku-O-Matic" - just peek (the pages refresh theirself, so sit back and & enjoy) There once was a car from Nantucket It wasn't your average rust-bucket We said with a grin As we went for a spin Hondas see our tailpipe and can .....just check out the site, ok? Laurie :-) 70 SPL311 69 SRL311 Chandler, AZ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 13 21:44:08 2000 From: "Mike Adams" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 21:51:54 +0000 Subject: Clutter The switch was on but the lights were off, they guy with the MG was pushing his albatross. Why had he tarried so long that day and traded in his Chevrolet. He could have had a Datsun for a little less cash. But his British heritage made him act rash. So now to all he meets he must tell his fate, and try to warn others before it is too late. From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 13 22:13:56 2000 From: "Terry and Donna Cost" To: "Datsun Roadsters" Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 21:59:18 -0500 Subject: limericks I shouldn't criticize limericks without writing one myself. Here goes I once drove a roadster named Frank "twas painted by someone who drank The outside was frightful The engine delightful All "other" sports cars I would spank Leisure Suit Terry From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 13 23:11:08 2000 From: shifty To: roadsters Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 22:06:43 -0700 Subject: copper brake lines? I've been reading Practical Classics again (there is a roadster picture in the Oct issue - kind of hard to find!). They tout the virtues of copper brake lines "to prevent corrosion". Seems like steel lines would be better. I just bent some steel lines and they weren't that hard to do. Is there an advantage to copper? Leigh Brooks BADROC From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 13 23:32:45 2000 From: shifty To: roadsters Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 22:29:44 -0700 Subject: stripes I've been thinking about striping the 2-liter. I haven't seen that many pictures of striped roadsters. Considering one wide stripe down the middle of the hood and trunk with parallel pinstripes on each side. The trick is how wide to make it. Seems to me that total width of the stripe and pinstripes should be approximately equal to the width of the license plate (12"). This should be wide enough to have the D-A-T-S-U-N letters on the hood (~11-3/8") within the wide stripe. Will 3M vinyl striping work over the ridges on the hood and trunk? Painted would be better? Anyone have any pointers? Thanks, Leigh Brooks BADROC From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 14 09:05:18 2000 From: Geegc@aol.com To: shifty@best.com Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 11:04:08 EDT Subject: Re: stripes I always liked the stripes on the GT350 Mustang and the Cobra and would use them as a model. I would not include letters in the stripes as I thought that it looks cheesy when the cheaper cars (Pintos, Mustang II, Porsche Carrera) do it. I have even thought of doing the same on my 1600 or 2000. The 2000 has small pinstripes from the PO which I think look good. Post a pix if you do it. Gary C 1966 1600 1968 2000 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 14 09:18:31 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: datsunroadsters@egroups.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 11:17:58 EDT Subject: shameless plug Hello all, I have updated my web site a bit with a LOT of parts for sale. I am trying to clear out the garage and raise some funds to work on my cars. The page is at www.geocities.com/roadsternut and if you see anything that you are interested in, drop me a line. Someone on the list had indicated that they were going to buy the car that I have for sale, but it appears that may have fallen through. I want it to GO AWAY, so if you are interested in a project car - or a parts car for that matter - make me an offer - I will not be offended!! Thanks! Sid too many parts and not enough running cars :( _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 14 10:00:05 2000 From: SPL311RDST@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 11:58:48 EDT Subject: re:stripes In a message dated 10/13/00 10:34:08 PM US Mountain Standard Time, shifty@best.com writes: > Will 3M vinyl striping work over the ridges on the hood and trunk? Painted > would be better? Mark typing here... The answer is...it depends. If it we me, I would do it in vinyl. But then I have access to a $40,000 software/hardware suite and about 17 million different colour and quality variations in 30 yard rolls. I also get paid to do such things everyday. High quality vinyl (read the thinnest available) will conform to any ridge or surface detail (including rivets) with out any real problems if properly applied. It would probably be easiest to paint the stripes on. You'll want to get some 3M fineline tape (real 3M!) to lay out your stipes. The area of the new stripe will have to be prepared - scuffed with coarse Scotchbrite at the very least then thouroughly dedusted and wiped with a prep solvent. All of that should be done >after< the stripes are laid out and masked off. You don't say what colour the car is or wants to be. If you are wanting to put a white stripe over red, you're in for a pretty serious undertaking. You will need either to take the red down to primer or spray it witha good quality barrier. Unfortunately the barrier will add yet another thickness of paint which will show up at the edge of the stripe. OTOH, if you WANT pink stripes.......... Conclusion: If you're thinking about repainting, or putting a dark colour over light then paint is the easiest way to go. If you want to put white over dark, either you should use vinyl, or you should have thought of it before you painted If there is enough interest I can probably make up some stripe sets - email me at fordcortinaaz@aol.com and I will work up some prices and intallation intsructions Mark Laurie :-) 70 SPL311 69 SRL311 Chandler, AZ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 14 10:07:31 2000 From: "The Belgian Roadster" To: Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 18:11:25 +0200 Subject: exhaust Hi List, Has anyone an aftermarket part number for a 2000 exhaust line. I need the part rear muffler and the section that bends over the rear axle. Chris-The Belgian Roadster From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 14 10:09:21 2000 From: "Bill Barber" To: "Datsun Roadsters" , Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 09:10:57 -0700 Subject: OT - License plates The number 8 has some significance in some Asian coutries. Singapore for one - where you also pay 100 percent tax on a car! I have seen plates listed for much more than what was shown on hte site. Any combo of 8 really fetches a high price. I think 8 is a lucky number in the Mandarin speaking countries, while the number 4 means "death". I will see if can find a website listing prices for those that are interested. Anyone know of any roadsters in Singapore or Hong Kong? Talk about boosting the price of roadsters - we could try to use an ad from there to make our next sale. (to buy another roadster , of course..) Bill Barber SRL311-09363(No "8" but no "4" either..) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 3:11 PM Subject: OT - License plates I found this interesting article that a few would like about the personal license plate. http://web.philly.com/content/inquirer/2000/10/11/front_page/TAGS11.htm Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 14 10:36:51 2000 From: Pamela Pepoy To: Bill Barber Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 09:44:47 -0700 Subject: Re: OT - License plates Interesting, Anyone want to buy a phone number? My last 4 digits are 4666. Quick. I need to paint my roadster. Guy Bill Barber wrote: > The number 8 has some significance in some Asian coutries. Singapore for > one - where you also pay 100 percent tax on a car! I have seen plates listed > for much more than what was shown on hte site. Any combo of 8 really fetches > a high price. I think 8 is a lucky number in the Mandarin speaking > countries, while the number 4 means "death". > > I will see if can find a website listing prices for those that are > interested. Anyone know of any roadsters in Singapore or Hong Kong? Talk > about boosting the price of roadsters - we could try to use an ad from there > to make our next sale. (to buy another roadster , of course..) > > Bill Barber > SRL311-09363(No "8" but no "4" either..) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 3:11 PM > Subject: OT - License plates > > I found this interesting article that a few would like about the personal > license plate. > http://web.philly.com/content/inquirer/2000/10/11/front_page/TAGS11.htm > > Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 14 12:10:07 2000 From: "spencer" To: Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 11:02:15 -0700 Subject: Stripes... If you want to paint stripes on, be sure to shoot a little clear coat on the joint between the tape and the stripe target area BEFORE you paint the stripe. Let it dry THEN shoot the color. IF anything is going to seep under the tape (and it will), let it be clear, rather than color. Then, when you remove the tape, your color line should be fairly clean. Good luck, Mark in Modesto Pale yellow 67.5 1600 (with a rounded Parrish hardtop for Winter) From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 14 12:30:03 2000 From: "Victor Laury" To: Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 11:11:20 -0700 Subject: One cold Ankle my drivers side vent seal is torn and chilling my ankle. Anyone ever replace one of these? Are the same early to late models? Do are vendors have them. You know how cold L.A. winters can be :-) Victor 70 SRL 31113136 Los Angeles http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=123073 SoCalROC http://www.ameri-eagle.com/datsun/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 14 13:12:11 2000 From: Davesmbox@aol.com To: vlaury@earthlink.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 15:11:27 EDT Subject: Re: One cold Ankle If its the rubber seal on the vent under the dash go to a commercial roofing supplier. They will probably just give you a piece of their thickest rubber roof membrane. Cut 2 pieces to fit and contact cement them together around the metal vent piece. DAVE From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 14 14:23:28 2000 From: Marc Tyler To: "Victor Laury" , Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 15:29:10 -0500 Subject: Re: One cold Ankle Victor Laury wrote >my drivers side vent seal is torn and chilling my ankle. Anyone ever replace >one of these? Are the same early to late models? Do are vendors have them. >You know how cold L.A. winters can be :-) > >Victor >70 SRL 31113136 >Los Angeles >http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=123073 >SoCalROC http://www.ameri-eagle.com/datsun/ I don't know if they're available, I fabricated replacemants out of sheet rubber (It may have been neoprene) the glue let go this summer, so I have one out where it can be patterned..would you like a paper pattern? it takes 3 pieces of (approx) 1/16 inch rubber sheet laminated together to make a channel. ...and I thought one cold ankle was going to be a haiku ;-) RICEBOY: Oversize tailpipe, Is that a coffee can?!?! We were all young once. -Marc ========================================================================== Marc Tyler TDROC 1970 1600 #SPL311-31016 1965 L-320 #L320 013642 (the misspent ute) http://datsun_marc.tripod.com/cgi-bin/Datsun_homepage.html Sisterdale TX From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 14 14:34:36 2000 From: Mor39@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 16:34:07 EDT Subject: Roadster FOR SALE 1969 Silver 1600 Roadster is for sale. great car, great shape, and a great price. I have Photos and alots of infor. Tim From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 14 14:37:01 2000 From: Jeff Etheridge To: Datsun Roadster Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 15:37:38 -0500 Subject: Oil and water do not mix? I have a '68 1600 that I've been trying to resurrect after sitting in a shed for the past twenty years. After getting the engine running I noticed the oil was foamy, like it was when I blew a head gasket on my trooper. Having a gasket kit that I purchased some time ago, I replaced the head gasket using the guide lines from Tech Tips. I am once again in the same situation. This time it idles much faster, about 2000 and bellows white smoke once the thermostadt opens...I didn't send the head out to be examined? It was my first attempt at changing a head gasket, but followed the guide closely and torqued to specs. Help... Jeff '68 1600 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 14 19:55:09 2000 From: SPL311RDST@aol.com To: maurell@bellsouth.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 21:54:08 EDT Subject: Re: Oil and water do not mix? Did you have the head resurfaced when it was off? Did you use "copper coat" on the new gasket? and lastly.... Did you re-torque the head down ( after a good long drive, then about 10 operational hours later. All of these are especially important on a bi-metal engine. I've had to do head gaskets twice in a row on my 1600 - the gaskets available are not the best, I think the use of copper-coat was the key in keeping it sealed. Laurie :-) 70 SPL311 69 SRL311 Chandler, AZ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 14 20:44:44 2000 From: "Mike/Chris Clothier" To: "Roadster List" Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 19:42:58 -0700 Subject: List clutter I guess I'm a lurker too. Mainly because I can't compete with the technical expertise of the majority of the list members. I do,however, read all of my e-mails because it keeps me in tune with the group and gives me a way of recognizing people at surfside every year. I hope this doesn't ever change. It is nice to know we are human as well as technocrats. BTW, missed my e-mails for 2 days and had 165. Roadster Content: Paul and CDM were right, my bottom shock supports were on backwards. Every thing went together like a snap tonight. Thanks guys. Mike C Norco, Ca. 68 1600 ?auto-x 70 1600 --- Mike Clothier --- mclothier@earthlink.net From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 14 20:56:47 2000 From: "Mike Adams" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 21:04:30 +0000 Subject: Re: Roadster FOR SALE Man that sounds Great !!!!! Where is it??? ---------- >From: Mor39@aol.com >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Roadster FOR SALE >Date: 14, Oct , 8:34 PM > >1969 Silver 1600 Roadster is for sale. great car, great shape, and a great >price. I have Photos and alots of infor. Tim > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 14 21:34:49 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: datsunroadsters@egroups.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 23:34:24 EDT Subject: Wingnut Does anyone know what thread size the stud is on the 67 solex aircleaner? I need to get a couple of wingnuts to fit it. Thanks, Sid _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 15 07:05:26 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Roman Rist" Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 08:59:48 -0400 Subject: Re: busting your balls Roman, No problem. The list was real, I just had to put in some "Roadster" content! BTW, #10 was the Maxima and LA led the country in thefts!!!!!! Mike ----- Original Message ----- > > Mike, was your theft report a joke? sorry for publicly busting your > balls, it just hit me funny > > Roman > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. > http://im.yahoo.com/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 15 07:17:05 2000 From: HIGHKIX4@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, datsunroadsters@onelist.com Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 09:16:07 EDT Subject: Trusty Other half drives SAKE RKT! What a fine day yesterday. Susan was acting a bit worn out, doing paperwork at the kitchen table. "Hey, lets go for a ride in the red car"...she hasnt been in it except for quick spin thru neighborhood, we went some ways out in the country, and found some good sports car roads. I asked her if she wanted to drive, and she was like a little kid at that point "YEA".... The way I have the shifter shimmed with hard rubber makes 3rd just a thought away from 1st, but 5th is a deliberate reach..this caused some shifting anomalies for a bit....then she started really driving well. What a very cool and enjoyable way to spend an hour or two. Wow this car is fast!...was her comment after running up thru the gears to about 5K....I told her to use full throttle and 6K, and hold on! I had a whole nother appreciation from the passanger seat. What an outstanding exhaust note. What a tight little car. Enjoyed the ride! My 1.5 years of spare time and four thousand odd dollars of parts and stuff was suddenly well worth it. Best Regards, Jim (still grinning) Chesapeake Va 67 pushrod 2L 5spd 72 510 wagon From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 15 08:50:33 2000 From: Jeff Etheridge To: Datsun Roadster Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 09:50:52 -0500 Subject: Two heads are better... Me again....I have another head that I purchased afore, but believe it may be for the 1500? Is there an easy way to confirm this? It has been rebuilt, or is in new condition. New valves and no sign of use? i.e. like new....the header bolts are tapped standard. If it is good, can it be used on my 1600; and at what cost/compromise? Jeff '68 1600 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 15 08:59:53 2000 From: Jeff Etheridge To: Datsun Roadster Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 10:00:33 -0500 Subject: Looking for a gasket set for the 1600! Does anybody care to quote me?...Can we ask for quotes here? I have been off the a while and am just rejoining? Jeff '68 1600 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 15 09:29:25 2000 From: Jeff Etheridge To: Datsun Roadster Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 10:29:59 -0500 Subject: 24111-14603 I need one. This is what the radiator cap afixes to, atop the thermostat housing on the 1600. My parts manual called it for oil, but that is incorrect and I can't think of teh name of it? BTW, I will be attending the HSR this weekend at Road Atlanta...if you'd care to bring it. hint. None-the-less I will look up the SEROC while I'm there. Does anyone know if they will have a swap meet? Jeff '68 1600 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 15 10:07:08 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: maurell@bellsouth.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 12:05:40 EDT Subject: Re: Two heads are better... Yes, there is. If it is aluminum, it is not for a 1500. If it is iron, it may be. The easiest way to tell is to look at the top of the head just above the #4 exhaust port. If the part number that is cast in there is 11042-32201 or 11042-32200, then it is a 1500 part. Sid >From: Jeff Etheridge >Reply-To: Jeff Etheridge >To: Datsun Roadster >Subject: Two heads are better... >Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 09:50:52 -0500 > >Me again....I have another head that I purchased afore, but believe it >may be for the 1500? Is there an easy way to confirm this? It has been >rebuilt, or is in new condition. New valves and no sign of use? i.e. >like new....the header bolts are tapped standard. > >If it is good, can it be used on my 1600; and at what cost/compromise? > >Jeff >'68 1600 > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 15 13:19:23 2000 From: "Henry Bahn" To: Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 15:27:23 -0400 Subject: Fw: Aluminum Flywheels Now On Sale Seems to me there was a ques. about 'luminum flywheels recently. I don't know anything about this source. JH Bahn >From: "Jim D" >Subject: aluminum flywheels now on sale >Date: Thursday, October 12, 2000 4:20 PM We now have made the finest aluminum Flywheels for most all british makes and now they are all on sale for the season.till Dec 31,2000 These are some of the specs, Most all are made with 6061-T6 alum,CNC machined for accuracy, spc heat-treated high alloy fricton surface that is replaceable, all grade 10 bolts or rivits. most come complete with ring gear. call for more details SALE PRICES AS OF 11/16/00 TR 2,3,3a ------------------------$ 318.00 no ring gear TR 4,4a-------------------------- $ 318.00 no ring gear TR 6------------------------------$ 318.00 ring gear included Spifire 1500---------------------- $ 309.00 ring gear included Spitfire 1296----------------------$ 309.00 ring gear included MG-B late -----------------------$ 315.00 ring gear included MG-B early----------------------$ 329.00 ring gear included MG-B 66-68 small dia ----------$ 329.00 ring gear included MG-A ---------------------------$ 329.00 ring gear included Spridget 1275, 948---------------$ 302.00 ring gear included Jaguar moslty all call on model requested, also Ford,Chevy, Lotus,Honda, Mazda,Mitsu,Nissan,Porsche,Saab,Saturn,Toyota,BMW, Chrysler,Eagle For any questions please call, Master Card, Discover, Visa ok Donato and Sons Motors Performance Engineering 1600 W Market st Logansport, In 46947 219-753-0434 1-800-886-5337 fax 219-753-4115 Jim D From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 15 13:34:48 2000 From: Roman Rist To: HIGHKIX4@aol.com Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 12:34:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Trusty Other half drives SAKE RKT! sounds to me like another roadster is coming into the family soon. --- HIGHKIX4@aol.com wrote: > What a fine day yesterday. Susan was acting a bit > worn out, doing paperwork at the kitchen table. > "Hey, lets go for a ride in the red car"...she hasnt > been in it except for quick spin thru neighborhood, > we went some ways out in the country, and found > some good sports car roads. I asked her if she > wanted to drive, and she was like a little kid at that > point "YEA".... > The way I have the shifter shimmed with hard rubber > makes 3rd just a thought away from 1st, but 5th > is a deliberate reach..this caused some shifting > anomalies for a bit....then she started really driving > well. > What a very cool and enjoyable way to spend an > hour or two. > Wow this car is fast!...was her comment after > running up thru the gears to about 5K....I told > her to use full throttle and 6K, and hold on! > I had a whole nother appreciation from the passanger > seat. What an outstanding exhaust note. What a tight > little car. Enjoyed the ride! > My 1.5 years of spare time and four thousand odd > dollars of parts and stuff was suddenly well worth it. > Best Regards, > Jim (still grinning) > Chesapeake Va > 67 pushrod 2L 5spd > 72 510 wagon __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 15 14:12:54 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 16:12:15 EDT Subject: Solex Air Clean Hello, I went to a All Datsun Swap Meet today and I found a brand new "in the box" Solex Air Cleaner with the Solex Filter. The only problem is that it has a slight crease on the top of the cleaner. It was damaged in the box during shipping or storage I guess. I bought it from a Nissan Parts Manager. But it is easily repaired and really is no big deal. Otherwise, it is beautiful and so clean and shiney. Even the bolts are nice! If you are interested in buying it let me know and I will send it off to you immediately. I bought it so that it could go to someone on the list. I have no need for a second one. Michael "Calspeed" Carion San Francisco, Ca PS: Unless you want to buy my old one and I will keep the new one and repair it. From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 15 16:51:12 2000 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 18:50:20 EDT Subject: ready for Doheny Hello all, Just finished up replacing the differential in the blue car (66 1600), much quieter. Once again proving that oil is necessary. Also notices a leaky rear wheel cylinder. Replaced that along with the wet shoes. Took out the front pads, lightly sanded them and put on some graphite powder. About 98% of the squeak went away. Interested to see how long it lasts. keith From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 15 17:05:32 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Jeff Etheridge" , Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 19:00:29 -0400 Subject: Re: 24111-14603 Jeff, Knowing Datsun, radiator cap mounting. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Etheridge To: Datsun Roadster Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 11:29 AM Subject: 24111-14603 > I need one. This is what the radiator cap afixes to, atop the thermostat > housing on the 1600. My parts manual called it for oil, but that is > incorrect and I can't think of teh name of it? BTW, I will be attending > the HSR this weekend at Road Atlanta...if you'd care to bring it. hint. > None-the-less I will look up the SEROC while I'm there. Does anyone know > if they will have a swap meet? > > Jeff > '68 1600 > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 15 17:31:06 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "shifty" , "roadsters" Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 19:26:07 -0400 Subject: Re: copper brake lines? Leigh, Copper lines are illegal in the US. But don't tell anyone as I run copper lines. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: shifty To: roadsters Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 1:06 AM Subject: copper brake lines? > I've been reading Practical Classics again (there is a roadster picture in > the Oct issue - kind of hard to find!). > > They tout the virtues of copper brake lines "to prevent corrosion". Seems > like steel lines would be better. I just bent some steel lines and they > weren't that hard to do. Is there an advantage to copper? > > Leigh Brooks > BADROC > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 15 22:43:00 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 00:41:33 EDT Subject: Fun with 914's Hello, Today I had the pleasure of blowing away a 914 Porsche. I was cruising along Hwy 1 when I slowly came upon a yellow 914. As I cruised along side of him at a non-aggressive distance he suddenly decided to hit the gas. Okay... I am guilty because I followed suit until traffic built up again. When it cleared he did it again but this time I threw it into 4th and made mush out of that guy. He wasnt laughing with his girl anymore. This seems to happen alot lately. Do you think it is because of the meatballs and the number 67 on the doors? ;>) Bring it on baby! Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 05:57:00 2000 From: To: fordcortinaaz@aol.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 06:56:20 -0500 Subject: Stripes I would be interested to see what it costs. I really like the stripes on Mark Dent's car. It can be seen at the following website. Thanks for any info. http://www.datsunroadsters.com/dats61.html Chris Brucciani 1968 2000 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 07:06:09 2000 From: R Haug To: Chris.Brucciani@ercgroup.com, Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 06:05:30 -0700 Subject: Re: Stripes Chris.Brucciani@ercgroup.com wrote: > I would be interested to see what it costs. I really like the stripes on > Mark Dent's car. It can be seen at the following website. Thanks for any > info. Chris, The cost will depend upon if you do it yourself or have a body shop do it. Materials will probably cost about $150. I would guess another 2 - 4 hours to do the work @ $50 per hour in the shop. This would be just the stripes. No clear over the whole thing. You could take your car to a shop and get an estimate. Take a picture with you so they know what you want. Bob From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 07:44:56 2000 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 09:44:30 EDT Subject: Fwd: ready for Doheny --part1_48.c2c8ee3.271c603e_boundary Hello all, I have had to remove pads with the non-squeal stuff on the back before. With our pin and groove it's a real pain. When I first heard the graphite trick I figured that the brakes would be lubricated and would not grip. Not true, they work just fine, just quieter. In a message dated 10/15/00 8:59:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, az589@lafn.org writes: << Keith, Would think a non-directional finish on the rotors should work. Silicone glue on the back of the pads sometimes helps dampen the squeal but there isn't much room. Maybe you could grease the pads :-) ???????? Stan =========== At 06:50 PM 10/15/00 EDT, you wrote: >Hello all, > > Just finished up replacing the differential in the blue car (66 1600), >much quieter. Once again proving that oil is necessary. Also notices a leaky >rear wheel cylinder. Replaced that along with the wet shoes. Took out the >front pads, lightly sanded them and put on some graphite powder. About 98% of >the squeak went away. Interested to see how long it lasts. > > keith > > >> --part1_48.c2c8ee3.271c603e_boundary Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-zb02.mx.aol.com (rly-zb02.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.2]) by air-zb02.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Sun, 15 Oct 2000 23:59:23 -0400 Received: from zoon.lafn.org (zoon.lafn.org [206.117.18.9]) by rly-zb02.mx.aol.com (v76_r1.19) with ESMTP; Sun, 15 Oct 2000 23:59:06 -0400 Received: from az589 (cs-lake1-p03.lafn.org [192.168.11.3] (may be forged)) by zoon.lafn.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id e9G3x4s79374 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2000 20:59:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20001015210242.00e530f0@mail.lafn.org> X-Sender: az589@mail.lafn.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 21:02:42 -0700 To: Keith0alan@aol.com From: STAN CHERNOFF Subject: Re: ready for Doheny In-Reply-To: <82.17d2801.271b8eac@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Keith, Would think a non-directional finish on the rotors should work. Silicone glue on the back of the pads sometimes helps dampen the squeal but there isn't much room. Maybe you could grease the pads :-) ???????? Stan =========== At 06:50 PM 10/15/00 EDT, you wrote: >Hello all, > > Just finished up replacing the differential in the blue car (66 1600), >much quieter. Once again proving that oil is necessary. Also notices a leaky >rear wheel cylinder. Replaced that along with the wet shoes. Took out the >front pads, lightly sanded them and put on some graphite powder. About 98% of >the squeak went away. Interested to see how long it lasts. > > keith > > --part1_48.c2c8ee3.271c603e_boundary-- From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 08:18:45 2000 From: Marc Tyler To: , " roadster List" Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 09:24:38 -0500 Subject: Re: Fun with 914's CalSpeed@aol.com wrote >This seems to happen alot lately. Do you think it is because of the >meatballs and the number 67 on the doors? ;>) This might have something to do with it. Good thing it wasn't a 914-6...or was it? ;-D From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 08:19:31 2000 From: PLETCH5@aol.com To: Keith0alan@aol.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 10:18:57 EDT Subject: Re: ready for Doheny I finally fixed my brake squeek. There is a product called NO SQUEAL from Granitize,you put it on the brake pad itself.I was a little worried,but it has been working great (800 miles). Ken DATSTER From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 09:08:30 2000 From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com To: CalSpeed@aol.com Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 08:06:55 -0700 Subject: Re: Fun with 914's Aahh, come on Calspeed - pick on someone your own size. The 914 is a Volkswagen, they only marketed it as a Porsche because they didn't think that anyone would believe a sports car from VW at the time. If you check one out you'll notice that nowhere on the car does the Porsche crest appear, just the word "Porsche". That was Porsche's way of maintaining their pride after being forced to sell the car on the same dealership floors as the 911! Now, the 914-6 is a different matter, as Marc brings up in his reply - it had the famous flat-6 power and was a force to be reckoned with. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA CalSpeed@aol.com wrote: > Hello, > > Today I had the pleasure of blowing away a 914 Porsche. I was cruising along > Hwy 1 when I slowly came upon a yellow 914. As I cruised along side of him > at a non-aggressive distance he suddenly decided to hit the gas. Okay... I > am guilty because I followed suit until traffic built up again. > > When it cleared he did it again but this time I threw it into 4th and made > mush out of that guy. He wasnt laughing with his girl anymore. > > This seems to happen alot lately. Do you think it is because of the > meatballs and the number 67 on the doors? ;>) > > Bring it on baby! > > Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 09:13:41 2000 From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com To: datsunmike Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 08:12:16 -0700 Subject: Re: copper brake lines? Anyone know WHY copper brake lines are illegal? I'm guessing it's a strength issue. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA datsunmike wrote: > Leigh, > > Copper lines are illegal in the US. But don't tell anyone as I run copper > lines. > > Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: shifty > To: roadsters > Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 1:06 AM > Subject: copper brake lines? > > > I've been reading Practical Classics again (there is a roadster picture in > > the Oct issue - kind of hard to find!). > > > > They tout the virtues of copper brake lines "to prevent corrosion". Seems > > like steel lines would be better. I just bent some steel lines and they > > weren't that hard to do. Is there an advantage to copper? > > > > Leigh Brooks > > BADROC > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 09:49:33 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com, CalSpeed@aol.com Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 11:46:36 EDT Subject: Re: Fun with 914's Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't the Porsche crest appear on the hubcaps? At any rate, a properly built 914-4 will blow the doors off of a stock 914-6. I didn't believe it until I saw it. There was a guy in Augusta Georgia that autocrossed a 914-4. He had the motor updated (bored, webers, headers, cam, etc.) and he dominated the local scene. The next nearest car was a Fiat X1/9. It was VERY competitive as well. This guy did so well that the Porsche club in Atlanta sent a ringer down to compete - a VERY nice (and very fast) 914-6. The 914-4 ate his lunch. The -6 did edge out the Fiat, so it was definately competitive as well. This was not isolated either. The same thing happened when the autocross was held on Roebling Road in Savannah. Oh yeah, one other thing to mention. The -4 did NOT have box flares. All that he did was roll an aluminum baseball bat inside the wheelwells to ease the lip. He was running narrow tires (the widest that he could fit) so it was not an issue of him having a stormer that was purpose built. The car was also his daily driver....... Sid >From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com >Reply-To: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com >To: CalSpeed@aol.com >CC: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Re: Fun with 914's >Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 08:06:55 -0700 > >Aahh, come on Calspeed - pick on someone your own size. > >The 914 is a Volkswagen, they only marketed it as a Porsche because they >didn't think that >anyone would believe a sports car from VW at the time. If you check one out >you'll notice >that nowhere on the car does the Porsche crest appear, just the word >"Porsche". That was >Porsche's way of maintaining their pride after being forced to sell the car >on the same >dealership floors as the 911! Now, the 914-6 is a different matter, as Marc >brings up in >his reply - it had the famous flat-6 power and was a force to be reckoned >with. > >Gary McCormick >San Jose, CA > >CalSpeed@aol.com wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > Today I had the pleasure of blowing away a 914 Porsche. I was cruising >along > > Hwy 1 when I slowly came upon a yellow 914. As I cruised along side of >him > > at a non-aggressive distance he suddenly decided to hit the gas. >Okay... I > > am guilty because I followed suit until traffic built up again. > > > > When it cleared he did it again but this time I threw it into 4th and >made > > mush out of that guy. He wasnt laughing with his girl anymore. > > > > This seems to happen alot lately. Do you think it is because of the > > meatballs and the number 67 on the doors? ;>) > > > > Bring it on baby! > > > > Calspeed > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 10:00:18 2000 From: Dan Neff To: list roadster Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 08:58:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: idea's for a frozen 1600? Posting a question for a friend who is getting ready to tear into a motor to figure out why it froze up: "If the timing chain /gear comes off during operation will this result in bent valves on a 1600?" thanks, dan neff '69 2000 colorado springs, co www.wycroc.org __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 10:17:03 2000 From: Geegc@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 12:14:57 EDT Subject: part needed, 5 spd plate for 68 I need the small plate (1.5"x2.5"?) that fits in the indentation behind the shifter and has, I believe, the 5 speed shift pattern. Please let me know if anyone has one available. Thanks. Gary C 1966 1600 1968 2000 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 10:45:55 2000 From: aryasura To: sidney raper Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 12:43:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Fun with 914's Yes... and the steering wheel has the porsche crest...at least mine did... -ed On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, sidney raper wrote: > Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't the Porsche crest appear on the > hubcaps? At any rate, a properly built 914-4 will blow the doors off of a > stock 914-6. I didn't believe it until I saw it. There was a guy in > Augusta Georgia that autocrossed a 914-4. He had the motor updated (bored, > webers, headers, cam, etc.) and he dominated the local scene. The next > nearest car was a Fiat X1/9. It was VERY competitive as well. This guy did > so well that the Porsche club in Atlanta sent a ringer down to compete - a > VERY nice (and very fast) 914-6. The 914-4 ate his lunch. The -6 did edge > out the Fiat, so it was definately competitive as well. This was not > isolated either. The same thing happened when the autocross was held on > Roebling Road in Savannah. > > Oh yeah, one other thing to mention. The -4 did NOT have box flares. All > that he did was roll an aluminum baseball bat inside the wheelwells to ease > the lip. He was running narrow tires (the widest that he could fit) so it > was not an issue of him having a stormer that was purpose built. The car > was also his daily driver....... > > Sid > > > >From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com > >Reply-To: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com > >To: CalSpeed@aol.com > >CC: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > >Subject: Re: Fun with 914's > >Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 08:06:55 -0700 > > > >Aahh, come on Calspeed - pick on someone your own size. > > > >The 914 is a Volkswagen, they only marketed it as a Porsche because they > >didn't think that > >anyone would believe a sports car from VW at the time. If you check one out > >you'll notice > >that nowhere on the car does the Porsche crest appear, just the word > >"Porsche". That was > >Porsche's way of maintaining their pride after being forced to sell the car > >on the same > >dealership floors as the 911! Now, the 914-6 is a different matter, as Marc > >brings up in > >his reply - it had the famous flat-6 power and was a force to be reckoned > >with. > > > >Gary McCormick > >San Jose, CA > > > >CalSpeed@aol.com wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > Today I had the pleasure of blowing away a 914 Porsche. I was cruising > >along > > > Hwy 1 when I slowly came upon a yellow 914. As I cruised along side of > >him > > > at a non-aggressive distance he suddenly decided to hit the gas. > >Okay... I > > > am guilty because I followed suit until traffic built up again. > > > > > > When it cleared he did it again but this time I threw it into 4th and > >made > > > mush out of that guy. He wasnt laughing with his girl anymore. > > > > > > This seems to happen alot lately. Do you think it is because of the > > > meatballs and the number 67 on the doors? ;>) > > > > > > Bring it on baby! > > > > > > Calspeed > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 11:03:39 2000 From: "Robert Morrow" To: "Roadster List (E-mail)" Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 12:54:05 -0400 Subject: Seat Good afternoon all; I am in need of a seat frame for a late model 2000. Or any suggestion as to what I can use. The orange crate is not holding up as well as I had hoped. Thanks Bob Morrow Buffalo, NY 69 2000 70 2000 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 11:05:35 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 10:04:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: engine won't start tap tap it starts!! Hello All, I have a problem with my car (surprise surprise). Sometimes when I try to start it nothing happens. I hear a click the voltmeter goes from ~13.5 to ~8 volts. but nothing happens. Tap the starter a couple of times, tap the solinoid a couple of times and it starts. Last night I did this and when it started I saw a blue flash from the starter area. When the car first did this I thought it was a ground problem but now I don't think so. If it was a ground problem why would tapping the starter fix it?? So, do I need a new starter?? Which one is best?? Has anyone tried the fancy starter Dean sells?? Daniel 69 2000 SF CA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 11:22:56 2000 From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com To: aryasura Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 10:21:18 -0700 Subject: Re: Fun with 914's Wow... I stand corrected on the 914 deal. I had read the thing about the Porsche crest in a magazine article way back. Thanks guys. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA aryasura wrote: > Yes... and the steering wheel has the porsche crest...at least mine did... > > -ed > > On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, sidney raper wrote: > > > Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't the Porsche crest appear on the > > hubcaps? At any rate, a properly built 914-4 will blow the doors off of a > > stock 914-6. I didn't believe it until I saw it. There was a guy in > > Augusta Georgia that autocrossed a 914-4. He had the motor updated (bored, > > webers, headers, cam, etc.) and he dominated the local scene. The next > > nearest car was a Fiat X1/9. It was VERY competitive as well. This guy did > > so well that the Porsche club in Atlanta sent a ringer down to compete - a > > VERY nice (and very fast) 914-6. The 914-4 ate his lunch. The -6 did edge > > out the Fiat, so it was definately competitive as well. This was not > > isolated either. The same thing happened when the autocross was held on > > Roebling Road in Savannah. > > > > Oh yeah, one other thing to mention. The -4 did NOT have box flares. All > > that he did was roll an aluminum baseball bat inside the wheelwells to ease > > the lip. He was running narrow tires (the widest that he could fit) so it > > was not an issue of him having a stormer that was purpose built. The car > > was also his daily driver....... > > > > Sid > > > > > > >From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com > > >Reply-To: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com > > >To: CalSpeed@aol.com > > >CC: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > >Subject: Re: Fun with 914's > > >Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 08:06:55 -0700 > > > > > >Aahh, come on Calspeed - pick on someone your own size. > > > > > >The 914 is a Volkswagen, they only marketed it as a Porsche because they > > >didn't think that > > >anyone would believe a sports car from VW at the time. If you check one out > > >you'll notice > > >that nowhere on the car does the Porsche crest appear, just the word > > >"Porsche". That was > > >Porsche's way of maintaining their pride after being forced to sell the car > > >on the same > > >dealership floors as the 911! Now, the 914-6 is a different matter, as Marc > > >brings up in > > >his reply - it had the famous flat-6 power and was a force to be reckoned > > >with. > > > > > >Gary McCormick > > >San Jose, CA > > > > > >CalSpeed@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > Today I had the pleasure of blowing away a 914 Porsche. I was cruising > > >along > > > > Hwy 1 when I slowly came upon a yellow 914. As I cruised along side of > > >him > > > > at a non-aggressive distance he suddenly decided to hit the gas. > > >Okay... I > > > > am guilty because I followed suit until traffic built up again. > > > > > > > > When it cleared he did it again but this time I threw it into 4th and > > >made > > > > mush out of that guy. He wasnt laughing with his girl anymore. > > > > > > > > This seems to happen alot lately. Do you think it is because of the > > > > meatballs and the number 67 on the doors? ;>) > > > > > > > > Bring it on baby! > > > > > > > > Calspeed > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 11:26:10 2000 From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 10:24:42 -0700 Subject: OT - Corvair? I deleted the thread concerning someone's interest in a Corvair convertible, but if that person is still looking/interested, contact me off list and I can give you the e-mail address of a coworker of mine who races Corvairs and is well in touch with Corvair info and resources on the web. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 11:36:53 2000 From: JLBrooksNC@aol.com To: Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 13:35:18 EDT Subject: Head Gaskets I need some tips on installing gaskets. I recently replaced the head on my 2000 and I also replaced the manifold gasket, used copper-coat on both; both leaked. Used Nissan parts from dealer. The manifold gasket started leaking when I poured water into the radiator… drip, drip, drip. I took the new one off (rip) and put the old one back on (with a black manifold sealer this time). Now the manifold gasket doesn’t appear to be leaking (on the outside). Cranked up the Datsun and it started blowing white smoke (water???). Haven’t re-torqued yet. Pretty much followed Tom’s tips for (1600) Head Gasket Replacement. What did I do wrong, how do I fix it, or how do I do it right next time? ( I’ve got more Nissan gaskets) Thanks, John Brooks 68 2000, 2L From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 11:43:20 2000 From: "Kyle Hagemann" To: "Daniel Neuman" , Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 10:39:50 -0700 Subject: Re: engine won't start tap tap it starts!! > Hello All, > I have a problem with my car (surprise surprise). Sometimes when I > try to start it nothing happens. I hear a click the voltmeter goes from > ~13.5 to ~8 volts. but nothing happens. Tap the starter a couple of times, > tap the solinoid a couple of times and it starts. Last night I did this and > when it started I saw a blue flash from the starter area. When the car > first did this I thought it was a ground problem but now I don't think so. > If it was a ground problem why would tapping the starter fix it?? > So, do I need a new starter?? Which one is best?? Has anyone tried > the fancy starter Dean sells?? > Daniel 69 2000 > SF CA Hi Daniel. Sounds like the hot wire into the starter (the big one, not the solenoid wire) is possibly corroded/loose/whatever. Disconnect the battery, remove that wire from the starter, and make sure everything is nice and clean. The other thing that comes to mind is your starter is fried;-/ HTH Kyle From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 11:55:36 2000 From: "Chris Casey " To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 10:51:15 -0700 Subject: OT - License plates A girl friend in collage was lucky enough to get the following plates: 666 UCY No, these were not personalized plates. They were just the "luck" of the draw. She did get a lot of comments though... and she did have those "devilish" eyes... Chris Casey '66 1600 San Diego From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 12:31:19 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: kwhcpa@addler.net (Kyle Hagemann) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 11:29:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: engine won't start tap tap it starts!! Hello, I understand where the bright flash could be the hot lead not tight enough. But why would tapping on the starter fix that?? Also I noticed that I am missing the lower stater bolt. Daniel 69 2000 SF CA > Hi Daniel. > > Sounds like the hot wire into the starter (the big one, not the solenoid wire) > is possibly corroded/loose/whatever. Disconnect the battery, remove that wire > from the starter, and make sure everything is nice and clean. The other thing > that comes to mind is your starter is fried;-/ > > HTH > Kyle > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 12:41:20 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: dneuman@stars.sfsu.edu, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 14:39:22 EDT Subject: Re: engine won't start tap tap it starts!! Daniel, You may need a starter, and you may not. In the process of tapping it, you may be shifting the wires (which may be frayed or loose) and improving the contact allowing the car to start, BUT given the voltage drop, I think that you have a "sticking" solenoid. My suggestion is to take it out of the car, clean it up to look like new, check/repair any of the wiring that is suspect and haul it down to Pep Boys, Discount Auto Parts, Autozone, etc to have it tested. If it checks out, then put it back. If not, replacement time. Sorry, I have no experience with Dean's starter. Sid >From: Daniel Neuman >Reply-To: Daniel Neuman >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: engine won't start tap tap it starts!! >Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 10:04:10 -0700 (PDT) > >Hello All, > I have a problem with my car (surprise surprise). Sometimes when I >try to start it nothing happens. I hear a click the voltmeter goes from >~13.5 to ~8 volts. but nothing happens. Tap the starter a couple of times, >tap the solinoid a couple of times and it starts. Last night I did this and >when it started I saw a blue flash from the starter area. When the car >first did this I thought it was a ground problem but now I don't think so. >If it was a ground problem why would tapping the starter fix it?? > So, do I need a new starter?? Which one is best?? Has anyone tried >the fancy starter Dean sells?? > Daniel 69 2000 > SF CA > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 12:54:46 2000 From: "Kyle Hagemann" To: "Daniel Neuman" Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 11:52:22 -0700 Subject: Re: engine won't start tap tap it starts!! Hey Daniel- Think of it this way - starter is maybe a little old. Wire is maybe a little corroded. A little of this with a little of that will keep it from working, where a little corrosion or a little age alone would not. Kind of a Zen approach? By whanging on it, you probably loosen it up inside, or make the hot wire contact better, or otherwise influence the hidden inner workings of the starter circuit. Another thing to check, if memory serves, is the hot lead from the solenoid to the starter motor; perhaps it's loose/corroded. If I understand things properly (a rarity at times;-) the solenoid, when engaged by the trigger wire, moves the starter pinion out AND turns the motor on. So maybe your solenoid is gummed up (or bent from being whacked upon!) and isn't getting enough juice to activate it over this increased load. Perhaps you can open the solenoid up and clean it out? I've never been there myself, so YMMV! And goodness gracious, get that lower bolt in there! Kyle Santa Rosa '69 2000 for sale http://www.sonic.net/~kyle/srl.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Neuman" To: "Kyle Hagemann" Cc: Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 11:29 AM Subject: Re: engine won't start tap tap it starts!! > Hello, > I understand where the bright flash could be the hot lead not tight > enough. But why would tapping on the starter fix that?? Also I noticed that > I am missing the lower stater bolt. > Daniel 69 2000 > SF CA > > > Hi Daniel. > > > > Sounds like the hot wire into the starter (the big one, not the solenoid wire) > > is possibly corroded/loose/whatever. Disconnect the battery, remove that wire > > from the starter, and make sure everything is nice and clean. The other thing > > that comes to mind is your starter is fried;-/ > > > > HTH > > Kyle > > > > > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 12:56:03 2000 From: "Hall, Phillip" To: "Roadsters (E-mail)" Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 13:57:35 -0500 Subject: For Starters Speaking of finicky starters - I have a 2L starter that I want to rebuild for my '66 (same problems as Daniel) and was wondering if the parts are available to rebuild this starter. I need the gear, brushes, bearings etc... Phil PS - Don't forget SEROC at RA this weekend!!!! From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 13:06:34 2000 From: noji To: Kyle Hagemann Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 12:21:09 -0700 Subject: Re: They're after our cars again! Stan, I was looking at the web page of the California State Assembly Transportation Committee and did not see the name of Dennis DeCota. Should he be on this committee? Dana "sender of nasty e-mails" nojima Kyle Hagemann wrote: > > > WARNING! > > > > The headline today in my local California "Fishwrap" newspaper said: "SMOG > > CHECK PROGRAM FACES OVERHAUL". > snip > > Stan Chernoff > > Torrance, CA > > Oh man, oh man, oh man. Time to invest in smog pumps, eh? > > Here are some links you might find helpful- > CA state assembly transportation committee: > www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/newcomframeset.asp?committee=24 > Find your CA Assemblyperson: > www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/acsframeset9text.htm > CA senate transportation committee: > www.senate.ca.gov/ftp/sen/committee/STANDING/TRANSPORTATION/_home1/PROFILE.HTM > No emails for the Democrats, they have a web problem it looks like.... > > I did my part - emailed the whole stinking lot of them:-) > > The community teamed up to get SB42 passed, let's keep it that way! > > Kyle > emailin' soapboxer > no smog gear anywhere (:-o -- Dana Nojima, Ph.D. Department of Urology VA Medical Center - 112F 4150 Clement Street San Francisco, CA 94121 phone: (415) 221-4810 x 2031 fax: (415) 750-6639 noji-1@pacbell.net From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 13:14:54 2000 From: "rvedgar" To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 14:08:54 -0400 Subject: Update Hello to everyone Just wanted to update the old timers on the list that "Therapy 1" is running better then ever. Just replaced the head gasket and had the valves reworked. I had replaced the gasket six months ago when money was thin and was not able to machine the head. It lasted 6 months. The problem was not warping but corrosion of the openings the water passes through. The distance between the cylinder and the water jacket was reduced buy over 1/8" and the head gasket would always blow in that spot. (rear cylinder) Solution was to have a welder weld in new aluminum and then mill the head. Last week the weather started to cool off here in South Florida. So Saturday morning I took "Therapy 1" out for a test ride. Heading out of town I came up one a Boxster sitting at the light. Both of us had our tops down so I gave him the thumbs up and he smiled back. Then he took a double take at my car. How many horses I asked, "240 he" said, "and your car" he asked "about 100" I said (my 1600 has headers so 96+) Light turned green and we took off together not racing but just enjoying our cars. We pulled up to about 45mph which puts "Therapy 1" right in her power band for third gear. I punched it and pulled ahead or the boxster. He smiled and punched it and (of course) passed me. We came together and the next light and looked over and said "Man! you must be geared low" "Not really" I said "Top end is 110mph" He nodded. "Have a good day" One boxster with a new respect for Datsuns. (To bad I didn't have Cal Speeds 2000) :-) Ron Edgar 68 1600 82 280ZX Ft Lauderdale, Fla. http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=124639&a=914230 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 13:57:30 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: rvedgar@bellsouth.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 15:55:43 EDT Subject: Re: Update In a message dated 10/16/00 7:16:48 PM !!!First Boot!!!, rvedgar@bellsouth.net writes: << "Not really" I said "Top end is 110mph" He nodded. "Have a good day" One boxster with a new respect for Datsuns. (To bad I didn't have Cal Speeds 2000) :-) >> Easy there... a Boxster and a 914 are two different animals. The Boxter would have beat me easily. I can tell you that from experience. Somewhat... I guess. Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 14:20:48 2000 From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us To: "Daniel Neuman" , Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 13:02:48 -0700 Subject: Re[2]: engine won't start tap tap it starts!! A few times I've had the same problem with my starter. Although I whack it with a tire iron instead of whanging it (ouch). Mike Young told me that's a sign that the starter is about to fail and it's time to replace it. The only times it's happened to me is after long trips of driving the car hard so I guess heat may be a primary factor. Fred - So.SF '66 2L "Loosey" ______________________ Reply Separator __________________________ Subject: Re: engine won't start tap tap it starts!! Author: "Kyle Hagemann" Date: 10/16/2000 11:52 AM Hey Daniel- Think of it this way - starter is maybe a little old. Wire is maybe a little corroded. A little of this with a little of that will keep it from working, where a little corrosion or a little age alone would not. Kind of a Zen approach? By whanging on it, you probably loosen it up inside, or make the hot wire contact better, or otherwise influence the hidden inner workings of the starter circuit. Another thing to check, if memory serves, is the hot lead from the solenoid to the starter motor; perhaps it's loose/corroded. If I understand things properly (a rarity at times;-) the solenoid, when engaged by the trigger wire, moves the starter pinion out AND turns the motor on. So maybe your solenoid is gummed up (or bent from being whacked upon!) and isn't getting enough juice to activate it over this increased load. Perhaps you can open the solenoid up and clean it out? I've never been there myself, so YMMV! And goodness gracious, get that lower bolt in there! Kyle Santa Rosa '69 2000 for sale http://www.sonic.net/~kyle/srl.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Neuman" To: "Kyle Hagemann" Cc: Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 11:29 AM Subject: Re: engine won't start tap tap it starts!! > Hello, > I understand where the bright flash could be the hot lead not tight > enough. But why would tapping on the starter fix that?? Also I noticed that > I am missing the lower stater bolt. > Daniel 69 2000 > SF CA > > > Hi Daniel. > > > > Sounds like the hot wire into the starter (the big one, not the solenoid wire) > > is possibly corroded/loose/whatever. Disconnect the battery, remove that wire > > from the starter, and make sure everything is nice and clean. The other thing > > that comes to mind is your starter is fried;-/ > > > > HTH > > Kyle > > > > > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 14:23:59 2000 From: "Kyle Hagemann" To: Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 13:21:16 -0700 Subject: Re: Re[2]: engine won't start tap tap it starts!! > A few times I've had the same problem with my starter. Although I whack it > with a tire iron instead of whanging it (ouch). Mike Young told me that's a > sign that the starter is about to fail and it's time to replace it. The > only times it's happened to me is after long trips of driving the car hard > so I guess heat may be a primary factor. > > Fred - So.SF > '66 2L "Loosey" Hiya Fred- you may be missing the critical distinction between whang and wang. Whang is that sound you get when you hit an anvil with a sledge. Your wang, well, we won't discuss that here;-D High heat makes sense - resistance goes up with temperature, so when things are at their hottest, the connections are at their worst. Whooooaaaa.... almost a Zen thing Kyle '69 2000 "Toad" From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 16:26:31 2000 From: "Laury, Victor" To: "'Daniel Neuman'" , Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 15:25:11 -0700 Subject: RE: engine won't start tap tap it starts!! I've just started (ha) to suffer the "hot starter syndrome" Myself. got a starter heat sheild from my local speed shop but have yet to install it. Symtoms are the same as Daniel described. Don't have to whack it or whang it, just wait till it cools off a bit. Never had this problem till I installed the headers. Victor 70 SRL 31113136 Los Angeles http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=123073 SoCalROC http://www.ameri-eagle.com/datsun/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 16:31:25 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us, dneuman@stars.sfsu.edu, kwhcpa@addler.net Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 18:31:00 EDT Subject: Re: Re[2]: engine won't start tap tap it starts!! I had an old Mustang that had that malady. The headers were the cause of the problem. They "baked" the starters. It only happened after high speed runs! :-) I wisely invested in a lifetime warranty starter. The appropriate answer would have been to fabricate some kind of heat shield. That would be a good idea with the Roadster as well. Just my $.02 worth. Sid >From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us >Reply-To: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us >To: "Daniel Neuman" , "Kyle Hagemann" > >CC: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Re[2]: engine won't start tap tap it starts!! >Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 13:02:48 -0700 > >A few times I've had the same problem with my starter. Although I whack it >with a tire iron instead of whanging it (ouch). Mike Young told me that's a >sign that the starter is about to fail and it's time to replace it. The >only times it's happened to me is after long trips of driving the car hard >so I guess heat may be a primary factor. > >Fred - So.SF >'66 2L "Loosey" > >______________________ Reply Separator __________________________ >Subject: Re: engine won't start tap tap it starts!! >Author: "Kyle Hagemann" >Date: 10/16/2000 11:52 AM > > >Hey Daniel- > >Think of it this way - starter is maybe a little old. Wire is maybe a >little >corroded. A little of this with a little of that will keep it from >working, >where a little corrosion or a little age alone would not. Kind of a Zen >approach? > >By whanging on it, you probably loosen it up inside, or make the hot wire >contact >better, or otherwise influence the hidden inner workings of the starter >circuit. > >Another thing to check, if memory serves, is the hot lead from the solenoid >to >the >starter motor; perhaps it's loose/corroded. > >If I understand things properly (a rarity at times;-) the solenoid, when >engaged >by the trigger wire, moves the starter pinion out AND turns the motor on. >So >maybe >your solenoid is gummed up (or bent from being whacked upon!) and isn't >getting >enough juice to activate it over this increased load. Perhaps you can open >the solenoid up and clean it out? I've never been there myself, so YMMV! > >And goodness gracious, get that lower bolt in there! > >Kyle >Santa Rosa >'69 2000 for sale >http://www.sonic.net/~kyle/srl.html >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Daniel Neuman" >To: "Kyle Hagemann" >Cc: >Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 11:29 AM >Subject: Re: engine won't start tap tap it starts!! > > > > Hello, > > I understand where the bright flash could be the hot lead not tight > > enough. But why would tapping on the starter fix that?? Also I noticed >that > > I am missing the lower stater bolt. > > Daniel 69 2000 > > SF CA > > > > > Hi Daniel. > > > > > > Sounds like the hot wire into the starter (the big one, not the >solenoid >wire) > > > is possibly corroded/loose/whatever. Disconnect the battery, remove >that >wire > > > from the starter, and make sure everything is nice and clean. The >other >thing > > > that comes to mind is your starter is fried;-/ > > > > > > HTH > > > Kyle > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 16:41:29 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: datsunroadsters@egroups.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 18:41:03 EDT Subject: The hatchet man commeth......... Hello all, It is a sad day in Roadsterland. We are about to lose another one of our crowd. I have tired of looking at the Roadster languishing in the driveway. A few folks have inquired about it, but I have had no firm offers, SO I have decided that it is time to put her down. I am going to chop it up for parts. A few folks have asked about parts from that car, and if any of you are still interested, PLEASE LET ME KNOW - THE PARTS ARE NOW AVAILABLE!! I will try to reply to those folks that I have communicated with, but I have deleted some e-mails and may have deleted the wrong ones. (Please accept my apology in advance if I did not get back with you after this note.) I will also be putting some stuff on Ebay. This is my first venture onto ebay as a seller, so wish me luck!! Thanks, Sid _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 16:42:00 2000 From: Jim Williams To: "Hall, Phillip" , Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 15:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: For Starters There are several things to look for on the starter... First, and most obvious, look to make sure the cables and selenoid connections are clean and tight...I have found that these loosen up, especally the large ower connection from the battery to the starter. Often this bolt gets loose and the selenoid will not make contact. I have found that you can loosen the main power bolt to the selenoid and rotate it slightly. This gives a new contact for the selenoid as it pulls in and somethings gives many more minths of service. Second, often the brushes in the starter motor wear down and do not contact the armature unless they are bumped(by hitting the case) If you can find a new brush set,its a cheap fix... Lastly, sometimes the selenoid sticks and is freed up by a hit to the case...If you have an oil leak that runs down into the starter (VWs were famous for this)it can cause both of these problemes along with high temps from the exhast.... Try some header insulation or a metal shied around the starter if you suspect heat or oil... Jim Williams 68 2000 Scottsdale, AZ --- "Hall, Phillip" wrote: > Speaking of finicky starters - I have a 2L starter > that I want to rebuild > for my '66 (same problems as Daniel) and was > wondering if the parts are > available to rebuild this starter. I need the gear, > brushes, bearings > etc... > > Phil > PS - Don't forget SEROC at RA this weekend!!!! __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 16:43:05 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: LauryV@MTA.NET (Laury, Victor) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 15:41:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: engine won't start tap tap it starts!! Hello, Here's the wierd thing.. It only does it when the engine is cold. Well the couple of times its happened have been when the engine was cold. Ran errands inthe car over the weekend and the engine was hot and the starter had no problem. Daniel 69 2000 SF CA > I've just started (ha) to suffer the "hot starter syndrome" Myself. got a > starter heat sheild from my local speed shop but have yet to install it. > Symtoms are the same as Daniel described. Don't have to whack it or whang > it, just wait till it cools off a bit. Never had this problem till I > installed the headers. > Victor > 70 SRL 31113136 > Los Angeles > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=123073 > SoCalROC http://www.ameri-eagle.com/datsun/ > > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 16:56:02 2000 From: "Andrew Murphy" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 15:55:23 PDT Subject: Back with a vengeance List, Some of you know that I was dealing with some personal issues lately and have been absent from the list for a while. Also, many of you have ordered shirts from me. I have not cashed any checks yet as I was not in a position to deliver the shirts as of yet. Needless to say that is all over and I am back where I belong- talking Datsun Roadsters with my list buds. And the shirts are coming. That being said, I have a real question with some lead up info first. I am putting full comp suspension on my car. I know that the Koni shocks are preferred as they are adjustable over the KYB shocks which are not. The issue is that the KONIs are WAY expensive. With the comp suspension, does having adjustable shocks matter that much? Anyway, it's good to be back folks. My roadster and I missed you. Andrew Murphy 67 2000 Solex SoCalROC P.S. for Michael Carion- I am building the fastest, most bad-assed stock 67 2000 Solex on the west coast. Other than David Pina's car, I don't think any stock solex car will be able to hang with me. (And his isn't really stock) Kill all the 914s you want. Someday we are going to get it on and I will do my best to put the fear of having the second fastest stock 67 on the west coast into you. I can hardly wait... I am sure you feel the same way. _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 17:00:43 2000 From: "rvedgar" To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 17:54:18 -0400 Subject: Coupling insert lost. Hi troops, I have a request. Can you guys with parts cars look to see if you have the 90deg conector that attaches the speedo cable to the transmission on a 68 or so 1600. Inside that fitting is a very small coupling that looks like a 1" or so peice of speedo cable end. It fits in a slot in the transmission and the same in the coupling. If you drop it in the grass as I did you may never see it again. I need one asap and they want $60.00 for a replacement. ouch! I am sure sombody out there has one in a box of spare parts. If you could put it in an envolope and mail it to me with a bill for say $10 or $20 dollars you will get your money Thank You Ron Design Support Services "Marine Drafting is our Business" "Ships Control Stations are our Speciality" Cell Phone (954)465-5439 Fax (call for set up) Email rvedgar@bellsouth.net http://www.dsscaddesign.com P.O.Box 936301, Margate, Fla. 33093, USA <><<><<><<><<><<><<><<><<><<><<>><><<><<><<><<><<> From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 17:38:10 2000 From: Marc Tyler To: "rvedgar" , Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 18:43:45 -0500 Subject: Re: Coupling insert lost. rvedgar wrote >Hi troops, > >I have a request. Can you guys with parts cars look to see if you have >the 90deg conector that attaches the speedo cable to the transmission on >a 68 or so 1600. Inside that fitting is a very small coupling that looks >like a 1" or so peice of speedo cable end. It fits in a slot in the >transmission >and the same in the coupling. If you drop it in the grass as I did you may >never see it again. >I need one asap and they want $60.00 for a replacement. ouch! > >I am sure sombody out there has one in a box of spare parts. >If you could put it in an envolope and mail it to me with a bill >for say $10 or $20 dollars you will get your money > >Thank You Do you mean the little key ? $60 for that tiny chunk? Lemme root around... Marc t. From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 17:48:01 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Daniel Neuman" , Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 19:42:11 -0400 Subject: Re: engine won't start tap tap it starts!! Dan, I had the exact same problem on my 240Z and it was the solenoid. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Neuman To: Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 1:04 PM Subject: engine won't start tap tap it starts!! > Hello All, > I have a problem with my car (surprise surprise). Sometimes when I > try to start it nothing happens. I hear a click the voltmeter goes from > ~13.5 to ~8 volts. but nothing happens. Tap the starter a couple of times, > tap the solinoid a couple of times and it starts. Last night I did this and > when it started I saw a blue flash from the starter area. When the car > first did this I thought it was a ground problem but now I don't think so. > If it was a ground problem why would tapping the starter fix it?? > So, do I need a new starter?? Which one is best?? Has anyone tried > the fancy starter Dean sells?? > Daniel 69 2000 > SF CA > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 17:51:24 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Laury, Victor" , Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 19:46:23 -0400 Subject: Re: engine won't start tap tap it starts!! Vic, Could be a coincidence as I had the same exact problem and it turned out to be my battery. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Laury, Victor To: 'Daniel Neuman' ; Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 6:25 PM Subject: RE: engine won't start tap tap it starts!! > I've just started (ha) to suffer the "hot starter syndrome" Myself. got a > starter heat sheild from my local speed shop but have yet to install it. > Symtoms are the same as Daniel described. Don't have to whack it or whang > it, just wait till it cools off a bit. Never had this problem till I > installed the headers. > Victor > 70 SRL 31113136 > Los Angeles > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=123073 > SoCalROC http://www.ameri-eagle.com/datsun/ > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 18:08:18 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 17:07:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: right angle breather hose thingy Hello All, I know I saw somewhere on someones engine the little fitting on the valve cover for the PCV hose with a right angle to it. My hose fitting is jsut straight up. Are these right angle fittings a stock-maybe 1600 item?? Where can I get one. If I use this right angle fitting I can use a 'regular hose' and not the fancy curved to fit hose on my car that is falling apart. thanks, Daniel 69 2000 SF CA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 18:10:54 2000 From: Dat2000srl@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 20:10:19 EDT Subject: Re: They're after our cars again! As I said before, send those smog spirting roadsters east, You can start with the 67 2000's that are surely the biggest offenders. Larry - east coast 2000/69 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 18:11:49 2000 From: Ray Cole To: "Andrew Murphy" , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 08:10:52 -0700 Subject: Re: Back with a vengeance Some time ago there was thread, the conclusion of which was that with a comp suspension and heavy duty springs softer shocks may be a better choice. I am guessing that a combination of firm springs and hard shocks can cause a lot of bounce on anything but the smoothest of roads. I have the comp front suspension and an extra spring in the rear with the grey KYBs and it seems to work well. For racing on a smooth track the KONIs or white KYBs may be better but for street driving the combination of stiff springs and a softer shock has worked well for me. Ray Cole 68 1600 68 2000 At 03:55 PM 10/16/2000 PDT, Andrew Murphy wrote: >List, > >Some of you know that I was dealing with some personal issues lately and >have been absent from the list for a while. Also, many of you have ordered >shirts from me. I have not cashed any checks yet as I was not in a position >to deliver the shirts as of yet. Needless to say that is all over and I am >back where I belong- talking Datsun Roadsters with my list buds. And the >shirts are coming. > >That being said, I have a real question with some lead up info first. I am >putting full comp suspension on my car. I know that the Koni shocks are >preferred as they are adjustable over the KYB shocks which are not. The >issue is that the KONIs are WAY expensive. With the comp suspension, does >having adjustable shocks matter that much? > >Anyway, it's good to be back folks. My roadster and I missed you. > > >Andrew Murphy >67 2000 Solex >SoCalROC > >P.S. for Michael Carion- I am building the fastest, most bad-assed stock 67 >2000 Solex on the west coast. Other than David Pina's car, I don't think any >stock solex car will be able to hang with me. (And his isn't really stock) >Kill all the 914s you want. Someday we are going to get it on and I will do >my best to put the fear of having the second fastest stock 67 on the west >coast into you. I can hardly wait... I am sure you feel the same way. >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 18:20:37 2000 From: "John F Sandhoff" To: Daniel Neuman Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 17:19:47 -0700 Subject: Re: right angle breather hose thingy Daniel asks: > I know I saw somewhere on someones engine the little fitting on the > valve cover for the PCV hose with a right angle to it. I saw it too. They're 90 degree copper plumbing fittings! One on the 2000 valve cover; if you have SU's then put one on the air cleaner, and a plain ol' piece of heater hose links it together! -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 18:50:33 2000 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "Daniel Neuman" , Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 20:49:00 -0400 Subject: Re: engine won't start tap tap it starts!! Daniel, Any chance that the missing bolt is allowing the started to move and some times jam the messing of the bendix gear and the flywheel? Regardless, if you had a flash, something isn't connected well enough for the power to flow properly. you really should take a close look at all the wires to the solenoid and starter. If you want to install a new starter and never touch it again for the life of the car, TSI sells a gear reduction starter for Datsuns that would spin the motor even if the cylinders were full of water! We run one in a high compression 1600 that races SCCA G Production. No problems all summer, and that's a race motor! TSI is owned by Ted Shumacher, and is one of OROCs favorite suppliers. Chris Luers can tell you more about the starter than I can, or take a look at TSI's web site . If you decide you want one, make sure to mention OROC. You never know when you might get a discount. Paul OROC -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Neuman To: Kyle Hagemann Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Monday, October 16, 2000 2:43 PM Subject: Re: engine won't start tap tap it starts!! >Hello, > I understand where the bright flash could be the hot lead not tight >enough. But why would tapping on the starter fix that?? Also I noticed that >I am missing the lower stater bolt. > Daniel 69 2000 > SF CA > >> Hi Daniel. >> >> Sounds like the hot wire into the starter (the big one, not the solenoid wire) >> is possibly corroded/loose/whatever. Disconnect the battery, remove that wire >> from the starter, and make sure everything is nice and clean. The other thing >> that comes to mind is your starter is fried;-/ >> >> HTH >> Kyle >> >> >> > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 18:51:07 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 20:46:09 -0400 Subject: Re: right angle breather hose thingy I have a 2L valve cover with a 90 degree threaded copper elbow on it also. Wanna buy it??? Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: John F Sandhoff To: Daniel Neuman Cc: Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 8:19 PM Subject: Re: right angle breather hose thingy > Daniel asks: > > I know I saw somewhere on someones engine the little fitting on the > > valve cover for the PCV hose with a right angle to it. > > I saw it too. They're 90 degree copper plumbing fittings! One on the > 2000 valve cover; if you have SU's then put one on the air cleaner, > and a plain ol' piece of heater hose links it together! > > -- John > John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 19:07:42 2000 From: SRL311KA@aol.com To: solex67@hotmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 21:06:53 EDT Subject: Re: Back with a vengeance Andrew, having comp suspension indicates that you are going to compete at some level. Autocross or possibly road racing. Each track or venue will have different conditions and those might change during the day. Having some adjustments available to you will give you an advantage over those who don't. Bill Kenyon SRL311 KA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 20:15:04 2000 From: Pamela Pepoy To: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 19:23:04 -0700 Subject: Re: copper brake lines? Howdy, Soft material, vibrations = metal fatigue, woo, woo, whoopee...no brakes. Could be exciting...once. Or, soft material rubs on harder material...same conclusion. Guy svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com wrote: > Anyone know WHY copper brake lines are illegal? I'm guessing it's a strength issue. > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > > datsunmike wrote: > > > Leigh, > > > > Copper lines are illegal in the US. But don't tell anyone as I run copper > > lines. > > > > Mike > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: shifty > > To: roadsters > > Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 1:06 AM > > Subject: copper brake lines? > > > > > I've been reading Practical Classics again (there is a roadster picture in > > > the Oct issue - kind of hard to find!). > > > > > > They tout the virtues of copper brake lines "to prevent corrosion". Seems > > > like steel lines would be better. I just bent some steel lines and they > > > weren't that hard to do. Is there an advantage to copper? > > > > > > Leigh Brooks > > > BADROC > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 20:15:09 2000 From: "J Friederich" To: "Daniel Neuman" , Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 19:27:37 -0700 Subject: Re: engine won't start tap tap it starts!! I had the identical problem for, uh, a long time... years... kept a breaker bar under the seat to tap the starter / selenoid with... finally bought a new (rebuilt) starter from one of our vendors, and now can keep the breaker bar in the tool box in the garage. -John F '69 2000 Solex -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Neuman To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Monday, October 16, 2000 10:22 AM Subject: engine won't start tap tap it starts!! >Hello All, > I have a problem with my car (surprise surprise). Sometimes when I >try to start it nothing happens. I hear a click the voltmeter goes from >~13.5 to ~8 volts. but nothing happens. Tap the starter a couple of times, >tap the solinoid a couple of times and it starts. Last night I did this and >when it started I saw a blue flash from the starter area. When the car >first did this I thought it was a ground problem but now I don't think so. >If it was a ground problem why would tapping the starter fix it?? > So, do I need a new starter?? Which one is best?? Has anyone tried >the fancy starter Dean sells?? > Daniel 69 2000 > SF CA > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 20:18:55 2000 From: Pamela Pepoy To: aryasura Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 19:27:00 -0700 Subject: Re: Fun with 914's Hi, It's been a while (75-76). But I do believe the hood, bonnet, whatever, had the Porshe Logo on it. Guy Tempe, aryasura wrote: > Yes... and the steering wheel has the porsche crest...at least mine did... > > -ed > > On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, sidney raper wrote: > > > Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't the Porsche crest appear on the > > hubcaps? At any rate, a properly built 914-4 will blow the doors off of a > > stock 914-6. I didn't believe it until I saw it. There was a guy in > > Augusta Georgia that autocrossed a 914-4. He had the motor updated (bored, > > webers, headers, cam, etc.) and he dominated the local scene. The next > > nearest car was a Fiat X1/9. It was VERY competitive as well. This guy did > > so well that the Porsche club in Atlanta sent a ringer down to compete - a > > VERY nice (and very fast) 914-6. The 914-4 ate his lunch. The -6 did edge > > out the Fiat, so it was definately competitive as well. This was not > > isolated either. The same thing happened when the autocross was held on > > Roebling Road in Savannah. > > > > Oh yeah, one other thing to mention. The -4 did NOT have box flares. All > > that he did was roll an aluminum baseball bat inside the wheelwells to ease > > the lip. He was running narrow tires (the widest that he could fit) so it > > was not an issue of him having a stormer that was purpose built. The car > > was also his daily driver....... > > > > Sid > > > > > > >From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com > > >Reply-To: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com > > >To: CalSpeed@aol.com > > >CC: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > >Subject: Re: Fun with 914's > > >Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 08:06:55 -0700 > > > > > >Aahh, come on Calspeed - pick on someone your own size. > > > > > >The 914 is a Volkswagen, they only marketed it as a Porsche because they > > >didn't think that > > >anyone would believe a sports car from VW at the time. If you check one out > > >you'll notice > > >that nowhere on the car does the Porsche crest appear, just the word > > >"Porsche". That was > > >Porsche's way of maintaining their pride after being forced to sell the car > > >on the same > > >dealership floors as the 911! Now, the 914-6 is a different matter, as Marc > > >brings up in > > >his reply - it had the famous flat-6 power and was a force to be reckoned > > >with. > > > > > >Gary McCormick > > >San Jose, CA > > > > > >CalSpeed@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > Today I had the pleasure of blowing away a 914 Porsche. I was cruising > > >along > > > > Hwy 1 when I slowly came upon a yellow 914. As I cruised along side of > > >him > > > > at a non-aggressive distance he suddenly decided to hit the gas. > > >Okay... I > > > > am guilty because I followed suit until traffic built up again. > > > > > > > > When it cleared he did it again but this time I threw it into 4th and > > >made > > > > mush out of that guy. He wasnt laughing with his girl anymore. > > > > > > > > This seems to happen alot lately. Do you think it is because of the > > > > meatballs and the number 67 on the doors? ;>) > > > > > > > > Bring it on baby! > > > > > > > > Calspeed > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 20:34:49 2000 From: Pamela Pepoy To: rvedgar Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 19:42:41 -0700 Subject: Re: Coupling insert lost. Hi, Just a thought. After shoeing a horse, a good blacksmith will take a large magnet and pass it over the area where he was working. This picks up all those nasty little nails. Might find your little, expensive, gismacho that way. Good luck, Guy rvedgar wrote: > Hi troops, > > I have a request. Can you guys with parts cars look to see if you have > the 90deg conector that attaches the speedo cable to the transmission on > a 68 or so 1600. Inside that fitting is a very small coupling that looks > like a 1" or so peice of speedo cable end. It fits in a slot in the > transmission > and the same in the coupling. If you drop it in the grass as I did you may > never see it again. > I need one asap and they want $60.00 for a replacement. ouch! > > I am sure sombody out there has one in a box of spare parts. > If you could put it in an envolope and mail it to me with a bill > for say $10 or $20 dollars you will get your money > > Thank You > > Ron > > Design Support Services > > "Marine Drafting is our Business" > "Ships Control Stations are our Speciality" > Cell Phone (954)465-5439 > Fax (call for set up) > Email rvedgar@bellsouth.net > http://www.dsscaddesign.com > P.O.Box 936301, > Margate, Fla. 33093, USA > <><<><<><<><<><<><<><<><<><<><<>><><<><<><<><<><<> From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 20:36:36 2000 From: Ray Cole To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 10:35:26 -0700 Subject: Northern CA run For those of you in Northern California that can take a Friday off for a run through some beautiful foothill backroads.....great roadster roads. Apple Hill Run Friday 10/27 meet at 9:00, Stockton CA, at the Burger King just to the East of Hwy. 99 on Waterloo Rd. AKA Hwy 88. leave 9:30 the route will take backroads through the foothills and the Shenandoah Valley wine area to Apple Hill. Apple Hill is an area of many apple and fruit orchards where we will have lunch buy apples (what else) and conclude the run. Contact Jamie Cole 209-467-6737 or e-mail. Ray Cole 68 1600 68 2000 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 21:06:31 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: LauryV@MTA.NET, dneuman@stars.sfsu.edu, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 23:05:55 EDT Subject: Re: engine won't start tap tap it starts!! In a message dated 10/16/00 10:29:41 PM !!!First Boot!!!, LauryV@MTA.NET writes: << Symtoms are the same as Daniel described. Don't have to whack it or whang it, just wait till it cools off a bit. Never had this problem till I installed the headers. >> Very interesting Vic! I have headers installed too and I experienced the same problems. 150 miles away from home. Yes... just let the car cool off and it will work again. Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 21:09:52 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us, dneuman@stars.sfsu.edu, kwhcpa@addler.net Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 23:02:19 EDT Subject: Re: Re[2]: engine won't start tap tap it starts!! In a message dated 10/16/00 8:23:25 PM !!!First Boot!!!, Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us writes: << The only times it's happened to me is after long trips of driving the car hard so I guess heat may be a primary factor. >> Ohhh Fred... I remember one time when it failed in front of my house during a BBQ. Dont be embarrassed buddy! ;>) It happens to allof us. And now I just jinxed myself. Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 21:14:16 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: Dat2000srl@aol.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 23:13:54 EDT Subject: Re: They're after our cars again! Make sure to send them (67 2000s) to Florida and I will take care of them! Sid >From: Dat2000srl@aol.com >Reply-To: Dat2000srl@aol.com >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Re: They're after our cars again! >Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 20:10:19 EDT > >As I said before, send those smog spirting roadsters east, You can start >with >the 67 2000's that are surely the biggest offenders. > >Larry - east coast >2000/69 _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 21:21:37 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: sandhoff@csus.edu, dneuman@stars.sfsu.edu Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 23:21:03 EDT Subject: Re: right angle breather hose thingy The correct replacement is available. Rallye has them on their website for under 5 bucks. The URL with a pic is http://www.datsunroadster.com/PIC_PAGES/NEW_PARTS_PIC_PAGES/165-43.htm Sid >From: "John F Sandhoff" >Reply-To: "John F Sandhoff" >To: Daniel Neuman >CC: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Re: right angle breather hose thingy >Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 17:19:47 -0700 > >Daniel asks: > > I know I saw somewhere on someones engine the little fitting on the > > valve cover for the PCV hose with a right angle to it. > >I saw it too. They're 90 degree copper plumbing fittings! One on the >2000 valve cover; if you have SU's then put one on the air cleaner, >and a plain ol' piece of heater hose links it together! > >-- John > John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 21:44:57 2000 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 23:44:23 EDT Subject: Out comes the diff. again Hello all, Pulling the differential out again. Seems I got the pinion gear bearing preload just a little tight. Nice and quiet but it got rather warm after a couple of blocks. Spacers are ordered, should be back together in plenty of time for Doheny. keith From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 21:46:03 2000 From: "Adam Grupe" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 03:45:41 GMT Subject: 1968 Roadster Must GO OK, I don't want to see it go but dad said it must. A Vettes on its way and will be here in a few weeks. That means the Roadster would have to sit out side. I have a 1968 Datsun raodster 1600 with 98,000 miles. It has had a lot of body work done and there is NO rust, the interior has all been done. The car is red with black interior. I have both tops. (fiber glass hard top and black soft top) I have pictures and recipts from body on restroation. The car is in Grand Island Nebraska. I need to get $2700 out of it but I'm not set on that. Most of you guys are from way south of her but the car is worth coming and getting. dad said if its not sold to some one that would enjoy it that it would be traded in for a suburban hes looking at. A roadster is not car car that shod go to the chevy dealer. So does anyone want a nother roadster????? THANKS ADAM _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 22:38:04 2000 From: "Mike/Chris Clothier" To: "Murphy Andrew" Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 21:36:7 -0700 Subject: shocks Andrew.... I don't know what you have planned for your car but as has been mentioned, different locations have different conditions. My only experience has been the KYB full gas shocks with regular suspension and I have no complaints. The ride has been great and the car has felt very stable, even in very sharp turns. Mike C. Norco, Ca. 68 1600 70 1600 --- Mike Clothier --- mclothier@earthlink.net From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 23:00:55 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: solex67@hotmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 00:59:45 EDT Subject: Re: Back with a vengeance << P.S. for Michael Carion- I am building the fastest, most bad-assed stock 67 2000 Solex on the west coast. Kill all the 914s you want. Someday we are going to get it on and I will do my best to put the fear of having the second fastest stock 67 on the west coast into you. I can hardly wait... I am sure you feel the same way. >> Uhhh... okay Andrew. Good luck. Btw... welcome back. Haha! Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 23:20:14 2000 From: katman To: "'CalSpeed@aol.com'" , Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 22:13:50 -0700 Subject: RE: Re[2]: engine won't start tap tap it starts!! Yeh Michael, Figures you wrote that down somewhere! Anyway, remember that day was when we came up the coast highway with a single lane in each direction and I passed 3 or 4 cars with oncoming traffic coming? You better believe it I was pushing it real hard that day. I think Mike Young and Stephan were behind me wishing they took a picture of that. Fred "katman" ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; Cc: Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 8:02 PM Subject: Re: Re[2]: engine won't start tap tap it starts!! > In a message dated 10/16/00 8:23:25 PM !!!First Boot!!!, > Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us writes: > > << The only times it's happened to me is after long trips of driving the car > hard > so I guess heat may be a primary factor. >> > > Ohhh Fred... I remember one time when it failed in front of my house during > a BBQ. Dont be embarrassed buddy! ;>) It happens to allof us. And now I > just jinxed myself. > > Calspeed > > <> From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 23:23:49 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: katman@2xtreme.net Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 01:22:54 EDT Subject: Re: Re[2]: engine won't start tap tap it starts!! In a message dated 10/17/00 5:20:06 AM !!!First Boot!!!, katman@2xtreme.net writes: << Anyway, remember that day was when we came up the coast highway with a single lane in each direction and I passed 3 or 4 cars with oncoming traffic coming? You better believe it I was pushing it real hard that day. >> I didnt know that. You are crazy Katman! Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 16 23:42:55 2000 From: Dan Neuman To: "sidney raper" , sandhoff@csus.edu Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 22:48:46 -0700 Subject: Re: right angle breather hose thingy Hello, Yes Stephans car has this one on it. But its not exactly what I was talking about. The one I remember seeing was a honest 90 deg bend. This one has more of a 45 deg bend. Daniel 69 2000 SF CA At 11:21 PM -0400 10/16/00, sidney raper wrote: >The correct replacement is available. Rallye has them on their website for >under 5 bucks. The URL with a pic is > >http://www.datsunroadster.com/PIC_PAGES/NEW_PARTS_PIC_PAGES/165-43.htm > >Sid > > >>From: "John F Sandhoff" >>Reply-To: "John F Sandhoff" >>To: Daniel Neuman >>CC: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >>Subject: Re: right angle breather hose thingy >>Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 17:19:47 -0700 >> >>Daniel asks: >> > I know I saw somewhere on someones engine the little fitting on the >> > valve cover for the PCV hose with a right angle to it. >> >>I saw it too. They're 90 degree copper plumbing fittings! One on the >>2000 valve cover; if you have SU's then put one on the air cleaner, >>and a plain ol' piece of heater hose links it together! >> >>-- John >> John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA >> > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 01:56:47 2000 From: Susan and Mark Miller To: ronday@home.com, Datsun list Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 21:33:52 -0700 Subject: The red car. Too easy. Here it is for sale at Amazon: www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1568497318/qid%3D971670574/002-3831919-6428060 And yes, get it for the girls too. My wife told me about a little book that her dad had read to her as a child and I found a copy of it through a rare children's book service in LA. $20 for a 79cent book, but the look on my father in law's face as he read it to my son (his grandson) was great. Buy it for yourself. Mark Miller Alameda, CA marknsuz@pacbell.net Obligatory roadster content: they came in red, didn't they? Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:58:49 -0500 From: Ronnie Day Subject: Re: (OT) The Last Open Road >For those of you into sports car racing from the early fifties and who just >love to read about racing I highly suggest the above novel written by Burt >Levy. It's really great and puts a smile on your face. Lots of great >characters and of course cars. It revolves around a gas station, in of all >places, Passaic New Jersey. Does anyone else remember a series back in the mid-60's by a guy named Felson or Felton. The first book in the series was called (I think) "The Red Car" and was about a late teen kid who was befriended by a European mechanic. They bought a wrecked MG-TC, rebuilt it, and the rest (as they say) was history. There were maybe four to six books in the series as I remember. That series, along with Road & Track, was what moved me away from drag racing toward sports cars. I'd like to find copies of those books and have them for my grand sons, heck maybe my grand daughters, to read. Interesting how some things really stick with you. FWIW, Ron Ronnie Day ronday@home.com From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 05:35:55 2000 From: "Lehinger" To: "Datsun-Roadsters" Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 06:34:21 -0500 Subject: FW: Alum. flywheels - Datsun I called Donato yesterday - they are about 1 hr sw of Ft Wayne. Donato makes parts for racing vipers - trans ets. Jim races a spridget. Below is what he currently carries. He can give a better price starting at 10 - any interest? I can get hum a stock u20 flywheel. Lee Ehinger OROC -----Original Message----- From: Jim D [mailto:donato1@netusa1.net] Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 10:08 PM To: Lehinger@fwi.com Subject: Re: Alum. flywheels - Datsun Lee, I have the spec's on the following for Nissan 240sx,300zx,300 zx-turbo, 300 zx non-turbo 240, 260 ,280 z 's 1200(B110) 411, 510, 610, and 710 All aluminum flywheels have a 1050 high alloy steel clutch surface, all machined and only grade 10 or better hardware. I can get you a quote on your flywheel if you can send me a stock to copy and make a print. The only hang up may be matching up a ring gear, and it's cost My best quess would be in the $ 315 to 340 range Thanks for your interest Jim D From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 05:46:41 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: dneuman@stars.sfsu.edu, sandhoff@csus.edu Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 07:44:45 EDT Subject: Re: right angle breather hose thingy Dan, I have not seen one with a 90 degree bend. Sorry. Sid >From: Dan Neuman >To: "sidney raper" , sandhoff@csus.edu >CC: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Re: right angle breather hose thingy >Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 22:48:46 -0700 > >Hello, > Yes Stephans car has this one on it. But its not exactly what I was >talking about. The one I remember seeing was a honest 90 deg bend. This >one has more of a 45 deg bend. > Daniel 69 2000 > SF CA > >At 11:21 PM -0400 10/16/00, sidney raper wrote: > >The correct replacement is available. Rallye has them on their website >for > >under 5 bucks. The URL with a pic is > > > >http://www.datsunroadster.com/PIC_PAGES/NEW_PARTS_PIC_PAGES/165-43.htm > > > >Sid > > > > > >>From: "John F Sandhoff" > >>Reply-To: "John F Sandhoff" > >>To: Daniel Neuman > >>CC: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > >>Subject: Re: right angle breather hose thingy > >>Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 17:19:47 -0700 > >> > >>Daniel asks: > >> > I know I saw somewhere on someones engine the little fitting on the > >> > valve cover for the PCV hose with a right angle to it. > >> > >>I saw it too. They're 90 degree copper plumbing fittings! One on the > >>2000 valve cover; if you have SU's then put one on the air cleaner, > >>and a plain ol' piece of heater hose links it together! > >> > >>-- John > >> John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA > >> > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 09:08:23 2000 From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com To: Pamela Pepoy Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 08:07:41 -0700 Subject: Re: copper brake lines? I did some looking into the copper brake line issue after I posed the question, and I think that one of the big hangups for copper is the fact that copper is hardened by cold working. Any repeated flexing, or even rubbing against a harder surface (say, a frame rail) is likely to result in a hard spot, which, as the stress input continued, would be liable to crack. There is some debate, from what I've seen, over stainless steel lines, too, because the stainless mat'l is harder to form. Since my Roadster and I have always lived in California, we haven't had to worry about corrosion from road salt, high humidity, etc. - all that nasty stuff that makes automobile ownership in much of the rest of the country such an adventure, so mild steel coated mild steel brake lines ar OK. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA Pamela Pepoy wrote: > Howdy, > Soft material, vibrations = metal fatigue, woo, woo, whoopee...no brakes. > Could be exciting...once. Or, soft material rubs on harder material...same conclusion. > > Guy > > svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com wrote: > > > Anyone know WHY copper brake lines are illegal? I'm guessing it's a strength issue. > > > > Gary McCormick > > San Jose, CA > > > > datsunmike wrote: > > > > > Leigh, > > > > > > Copper lines are illegal in the US. But don't tell anyone as I run copper > > > lines. > > > > > > Mike > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: shifty > > > To: roadsters > > > Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 1:06 AM > > > Subject: copper brake lines? > > > > > > > I've been reading Practical Classics again (there is a roadster picture in > > > > the Oct issue - kind of hard to find!). > > > > > > > > They tout the virtues of copper brake lines "to prevent corrosion". Seems > > > > like steel lines would be better. I just bent some steel lines and they > > > > weren't that hard to do. Is there an advantage to copper? > > > > > > > > Leigh Brooks > > > > BADROC > > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 09:14:12 2000 From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com To: Adam Grupe , Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 08:13:30 -0700 Subject: Re: 1968 Roadster Must GO Trade a Roadster in on a 'Burb!? Aaaargh!! Heresy of the highest order! Get a really good car cover made from one of the breathable but water-resistant new fabrics and go ahead and keep the Roadster outside. She'll be snug under her cover and you won't have invoked the bad karma that would result from putting another gas-guzzling, smog-spewing, resource-wasting Stupid Urban Vehicle on the road in the place of a way-cool classic like the Roadster... Gary McCormick San Jose, CA Adam Grupe wrote: > OK, I don't want to see it go but dad said it must. A Vettes on its way and > will be here in a few weeks. That means the Roadster would have to sit out > side. I have a 1968 Datsun raodster 1600 with 98,000 miles. It has had a > lot of body work done and there is NO rust, the interior has all been done. > The car is red with black interior. I have both tops. (fiber glass hard top > and black soft top) I have pictures and recipts from body on restroation. > The car is in Grand Island Nebraska. I need to get $2700 out of it but I'm > not set on that. Most of you guys are from way south of her but the car is > worth coming and getting. dad said if its not sold to some one that would > enjoy it that it would be traded in for a suburban hes looking at. A > roadster is not car car that shod go to the chevy dealer. So does anyone > want a nother roadster????? THANKS ADAM > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 09:28:46 2000 From: "Matt Peterson" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 15:27:52 GMT Subject: checklist for starting rebuilt engine? Hi everyone, I've been in lurk mode for a while now. I think it's mainly because I haven't been able to drive my roadster ever since I took out the old engine a few months back. I'm writing now because I have the L20b engine in that I rebuilt this past summer and am hoping on starting it up finally this weekend. I have everying hooked up right to my knowledge and I'd like to know if any of you have a type of checklist to go through to start up a rebuilt engine. Also is there any break-in period that I shouldn't drive it hard? Hoping it will start up, Matt Peterson Zimmerman, MN '68 1600 (will be L20b powered once it starts) _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 10:11:05 2000 From: "Brian St. Jacques" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 09:07:30 -0700 Subject: Brake Line Fabrication Hello, A while back there was a thread on fabricating brake lines, and a few people had actually successfully done it. I noticed when pulling my calipers apart that there were two different flares on the lines. I was first wondering if anyone could repost what tools they used for the flares, and secondly if the threaded compression fittings were available or if the old ones had to be used. TIA. Brian '68 1600 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 10:22:22 2000 From: "Kyle Hagemann" To: "Ray Cole" , Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 09:20:06 -0700 Subject: Re: Back with a vengeance > Some time ago there was thread, the conclusion of which was that with a > comp suspension and heavy duty springs softer shocks may be a better > choice. I am guessing that a combination of firm springs and hard shocks > can cause a lot of bounce on anything but the smoothest of roads. > > I have the comp front suspension and an extra spring in the rear with the > grey KYBs and it seems to work well. For racing on a smooth track the > KONIs or white KYBs may be better but for street driving the combination of > stiff springs and a softer shock has worked well for me. > > Ray Cole Hi guys- Just to muddy the waters, my 240Z, with (IMHO) super stiff Suspension Techniques springs, needs the adjustable struts set to X-stiff to prevent oscillation. If I set them softer, I get that tres-cool riceboy bounce. Just FYI- Kyle '72 240Z '69 2000 '71 PL521 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 10:56:49 2000 From: VulForge@aol.com To: pete_303@hotmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 12:56:01 EDT Subject: Re: checklist for starting rebuilt engine? I think Tom has a tech tip posted about this, but here is a short checklist. Squirt a bit of oil in each cylinder through the plug holes. Leave the plugs out. Double-check all the fasteners, then all the oil connections, fuel connections, water and electric. Don't forget the little ones like the oil sender, tach cable and manifold water. Make a oil pump driver for your drill and spin up the oil pressure. With the valve cover off you can see when you get oil through the top of the engine. Turn the motor BY HAND through a couple of revolutions. Make sure nothing is tight or dragging. Put the valve cover back on and spin the motor a couple of times with the starter. You might want to ground a plug and check fire at this point. Check again for leaks, then reinstall the plugs and fire it up! Best of luck! Russell Criswell Kansas City MO 67 1600 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 11:20:06 2000 From: Thomas the Swede To: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 19:17:15 +0200 Subject: Re: copper brake lines? Many European made cars have copper/nickel alloy brake lines. Replacement brake lines are sold as straight pieces, even as OEM parts. The copper/nickel are sold in different length rolls for the DIY customers. Thomas svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com wrote: > I did some looking into the copper brake line issue after I posed the question, and I think > that one of the big hangups for copper is the fact that copper is hardened by cold working. > Any repeated flexing, or even rubbing against a harder surface (say, a frame rail) is > likely to result in a hard spot, which, as the stress input continued, would be liable to > crack. There is some debate, from what I've seen, over stainless steel lines, too, because > the stainless mat'l is harder to form. Since my Roadster and I have always lived in > California, we haven't had to worry about corrosion from road salt, high humidity, etc. - > all that nasty stuff that makes automobile ownership in much of the rest of the country > such an adventure, so mild steel coated mild steel brake lines ar OK. > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > > Pamela Pepoy wrote: > > > Howdy, > > Soft material, vibrations = metal fatigue, woo, woo, whoopee...no brakes. > > Could be exciting...once. Or, soft material rubs on harder material...same conclusion. > > > > Guy > > > > svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com wrote: > > > > > Anyone know WHY copper brake lines are illegal? I'm guessing it's a strength issue. > > > > > > Gary McCormick > > > San Jose, CA > > > > > > datsunmike wrote: > > > > > > > Leigh, > > > > > > > > Copper lines are illegal in the US. But don't tell anyone as I run copper > > > > lines. > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: shifty > > > > To: roadsters > > > > Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 1:06 AM > > > > Subject: copper brake lines? > > > > > > > > > I've been reading Practical Classics again (there is a roadster picture in > > > > > the Oct issue - kind of hard to find!). > > > > > > > > > > They tout the virtues of copper brake lines "to prevent corrosion". Seems > > > > > like steel lines would be better. I just bent some steel lines and they > > > > > weren't that hard to do. Is there an advantage to copper? > > > > > > > > > > Leigh Brooks > > > > > BADROC > > > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 11:43:59 2000 From: Marc Tyler To: , , Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 12:50:01 -0500 Subject: Re: checklist for starting rebuilt engine? VulForge@aol.com wrote >I think Tom has a tech tip posted about this, but here is a short checklist. >Squirt a bit of oil in each cylinder through the plug holes. Leave the >plugs >out. >Double-check all the fasteners, then all the oil connections, fuel >connections, water and electric. Don't forget the little ones like the oil >sender, tach cable and manifold water. >Make a oil pump driver for your drill and spin up the oil pressure. With >the >valve cover off you can see when you get oil through the top of the engine. >Turn the motor BY HAND through a couple of revolutions. Make sure nothing >is >tight or dragging. Put the valve cover back on and spin the motor a couple >of times with the starter. You might want to ground a plug and check fire >at >this point. Check again for leaks, then reinstall the plugs and fire it up! > >Best of luck! > >Russell Criswell > >Kansas City MO >67 1600 I had some similar questions about a long dormant moter awhile ago... <> That's the part that has me scratching my head, what would this driver look like? How do you know (by feel) you've engaged the oil pump? Marc t. From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 11:51:23 2000 From: VulForge@aol.com To: LarryD@pengrowth.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 13:50:07 EDT Subject: Re: checklist for starting rebuilt engine? In a message dated 10/17/00 12:30:29 PM Central Daylight Time, LarryD@pengrowth.com writes: << Hi Russell, What is an oil pump driver? Larry in Calgary. >> Just a rod with one end ground flat to fit in the slot that drives the oil pump. You remove the distributor and the shaft that drives both the distributor and oil pump and slot in this rod to spin the oil pump without turning the engine. The point is to get oil throughout the engine before trying to turn it over. Russell Criswell Kansas City MO 67 1600 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 11:53:25 2000 From: "Tony Genovese" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 17:52:58 GMT Subject: I need a four speed Hi guys, I'm just hoping to get lucky on this one, but does anybody have a "throwaway" 1600 four speed tranny that they would like to get rid of (preferably for no $$$)? When I say throwaway, I am not implying a hand grenaded tranny, but more along the lines of a working one that is just taking up space in the ol' garage. I need to get my 1600 running and this is the item that will fit the bill. Since these are relatively not very valuable items on the most part to roadster owners, I was wondering if anyone in the Southern CA, more specifically San Diego region had one that they wouldn't mind handing me for cheap or for free. Just thought I'd ask. BTW, I can come pick it up--have truck, will travel. Tony '66 1600 _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 11:58:13 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: mtyler@hctc.net, VulForge@aol.com, pete_303@hotmail.com, Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 13:57:51 EDT Subject: Re: checklist for starting rebuilt engine? You can make one out of a piece of steel rod that has the end ground to match the spindle gear that mates to the camshaft/jackshaft. You don't want the gear on it, so a round shaft is all that you really need. Sid >From: Marc Tyler >Reply-To: Marc Tyler >To: , , " roadster List" > >Subject: Re: checklist for starting rebuilt engine? >Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 12:50:01 -0500 > >VulForge@aol.com wrote > > >I think Tom has a tech tip posted about this, but here is a short >checklist. > >Squirt a bit of oil in each cylinder through the plug holes. Leave the > >plugs > >out. > >Double-check all the fasteners, then all the oil connections, fuel > >connections, water and electric. Don't forget the little ones like the >oil > >sender, tach cable and manifold water. > >Make a oil pump driver for your drill and spin up the oil pressure. With > >the > >valve cover off you can see when you get oil through the top of the >engine. > >Turn the motor BY HAND through a couple of revolutions. Make sure >nothing > >is > >tight or dragging. Put the valve cover back on and spin the motor a >couple > >of times with the starter. You might want to ground a plug and check >fire > >at > >this point. Check again for leaks, then reinstall the plugs and fire it >up! > > > >Best of luck! > > > >Russell Criswell > > > >Kansas City MO > >67 1600 > >I had some similar questions about a long dormant moter awhile ago... ><> > >That's the part that has me scratching my head, what would this driver >look like? How do you know (by feel) you've engaged the oil pump? > >Marc t. _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 11:59:54 2000 From: skippers@mail.clipper.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 10:56:03 -0700 Subject: Re: Brake Line Fabrication From "Brian St. Jacques" Jeez I usually don't say anything, but this is dangerous stuff. Brake lines are made out of stainless steel or at least steel and the connection ends are double flared. You can't make these ends with common tools. A metal brake line should be strong enough not to flex under high pressures and the end flares must be free of microscopic cracks. If either of those requirements are violated you will experience catastrophic failure under braking pressures. Forming double flares on stainless steel is, at least, a roll-forming operation. Single flaring tools simply stretch malleable metal over a mandrel. Copper lines? C'mon. Single flared? Use them to go directly to your local auto parts store. While your there, stock up on generic brake parts or, like in the case of front caliper lines, call someone who makes and bends brake-lines-to-order and use the money you saved from dropping your X-treme life insurance to pay for them. Ken Spurling 68 1.6 At 09:07 AM 10/17/00 -0700, you wrote: >Hello, > >A while back there was a thread on fabricating brake lines, and a few >people had actually successfully done it. I noticed when pulling my >calipers apart that there were two different flares on the lines. I was >first wondering if anyone could repost what tools they used for the flares, >and secondly if the threaded compression fittings were available or if the >old ones had to be used. TIA. > >Brian '68 1600 > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 12:26:57 2000 From: VulForge@aol.com To: mtyler@hctc.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 14:25:41 EDT Subject: Re: checklist for starting rebuilt engine? In a message dated 10/17/00 12:45:30 PM Central Daylight Time, mtyler@hctc.net writes: << That's the part that has me scratching my head, what would this driver look like? How do you know (by feel) you've engaged the oil pump? Marc t. >> It's just a piece of round steel rod with one end ground down to match the end of the distributor drive shaft. The other end chucks up in a drill, so the rod needs to be long enough to reach from where the distributor would be down to the oil pump. Stick it down the distributor shaft hole and turn it by hand until you feel it drop into the oil pump drive slot. When you spin it with the drill you will feel the resistance as the oil pump works. Russell Criswell Kansas City MO 67 1600 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 13:09:22 2000 From: Alex Avery To: skippers@mail.clipper.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 14:45:35 -0400 Subject: Re: Brake Line Fabrication From "Brian St. Jacques" >Ken wrote: Brake lines are made out of stainless steel >or at least steel and the connection ends are >double flared. You can't make these ends with common tools. > A metal brake line should be strong enough not to flex under high >pressures and the end flares must be free of microscopic cracks. If either >of those requirements are violated you will experience catastrophic failure >under braking pressures. > Forming double flares on stainless steel is, at least, a roll-forming >operation. Single flaring tools simply stretch malleable metal over a mandrel. Aw, come on Ken--your being a bit extreme here. Making brake lines isn't that hard, nor that exotic. I've done bunches of them with a simple, relatively inexpensive (but well made) brake line flare tool from the local auto parts store. What is the huge difference between stretching the malleable metal by"roll-forming" as opposed to "stretching malleable metal over a mandrel"? Have I just been cheatin' death for the last 5 years, 'cause I just know I've pushed my 280Z's brakes pretty hard--an they aint let go yet! (that's my thick Virginia accent you're reading--more clutter) At 10:56 AM 10/17/00 -0700, skippers@mail.clipper.net wrote: >Jeez > I usually don't say anything, but this is dangerous stuff. > Copper lines? C'mon. Single flared? Use them to go directly to your local >auto parts store. While your there, stock up on generic brake parts or, >like in the case of front caliper lines, call someone who makes and bends >brake-lines-to-order and use the money you saved from dropping your X-treme >life insurance to pay for them. > >Ken Spurling >68 1.6 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 14:06:57 2000 From: VulForge@aol.com To: LarryD@pengrowth.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 16:05:56 EDT Subject: Re: checklist for starting rebuilt engine? In a message dated 10/17/00 1:36:28 PM Central Daylight Time, LarryD@pengrowth.com writes: << I figured that was the purpose, but, I thought the "jack shaft" rotated the distributor shaft and oil pump. If yes, would its drive gear not be in the way of any drill and home made rod setup? >> I really haven't looked at the roadster motor to see, but it is really easy on the L-series motors, which is what he was asking about. On those, you just mark where the timing is, undo the distributor holddown and lift the distributor out. Mark which way the drive tab is pointing and lift out the dist/oil pump drive shaft. When you reinstall, just match up the marks and your timing will be the same. The drive tab is off center, so you can't put it back 180 out. Russell Criswell Kansas City MO 67 1600 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 14:50:47 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 16:49:44 EDT Subject: New Vendor...? Hello, Check this out! I just found this new Datsun Repair guy up here in California. Anyway, I dropped him and email but he never returned it. Strange huh...? Anyway, here is the link. Classic Euro-Asian Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 15:32:20 2000 From: Robert Porter To: , , Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 17:33:22 -0400 Subject: Re: checklist for starting rebuilt engine? Another approach: with the plugs out and the valve cover off, squirt a little oil in the cylinders and on top of valve assemblies. Then just spin the motor with the starter until you get a good oil pressure reading on the gauge. Stop, let everything settle and repeat once or twice. Works just as well, especially if you used assembly lube on the crankshaft and connecting rods. Bob Porter 70 1600 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 15:44:39 2000 From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com To: CalSpeed@aol.com, Datsun Roadster List Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 14:43:58 -0700 Subject: Re: New Vendor...? This guy is a fur piece from the Bay Area, but might be a resource for Roadsters traveling between Shasta and points south. Gary McCormick San Jose CalSpeed@aol.com wrote: > Hello, > > Check this out! I just found this new Datsun Repair guy up here in > California. Anyway, I dropped him and email but he never returned it. > Strange huh...? Anyway, here is the link. > > Classic Euro-Asian > > Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 16:04:51 2000 From: "John F Sandhoff" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 15:03:50 -0700 Subject: Spinning the oil pump (LONG) To spin the oil pump and pre-lube an R- or U- engine, you need to pull the distributor, mount pedestal, and drive gear. The distributor tang fits into a slot on the top of the drive gear - this gear is what is turned by the camshaft/jackshaft and no you can't spin the pump with it in place. Set the engine to TDC (use the timing pointer), points opening on #1 cylinder. Mark where the rotor is pointing. Pull the distributor. Unfasten the oil feed line and tach drive at the pedestal, then unbolt and remove it. Note carefully where the notch in the gear is pointing, then grab it with fingers or CAREFULLY with long nose pliers and pull it out. IT WILL TURN AS IT COMES OUT. NOTE: if it is covered with oil, it may be very difficult to pull out - the oil 'seals' it into the pump and it can take a long continuous pull to get it out (trust me). NOTE that the slot is OFFSET JUST A TINY BIT, and yes it DOES matter! PAY ATTENTION to where the slot is pointing AS THE GEAR COMES FREE. As I say, it turns as it comes out (helical gears). After the gear is out, NOTE the position of the slot in the oil pump shaft. It'll haunt you later! Now spin the pump. Tom Walter used to make priming rods, but (sorry Tom) just take the shaft off a long straight bladed screwdriver and chuck it in a drill. Dump some oil on the end, and position the oil feed tube to squirt oil onto the rod. Then start spinning - COUNTERclockwise! Within several seconds you should have oil pressure, oil flow from the tube, and in 10-15 seconds oil flow to the top end. If you want, turn the engine BY HAND a couple full revolutions. If you can, have a helper turn it while you keep pressure up. COUNT THE revolutions and end on an EVEN COUNT. Put #1 at TDC again. Reposition the pump shaft. Reinsert the gear, with the slot NOT where it was when you pulled it out. See how far the gear drops down? When you get it right, it'll drop FURTHER DOWN. Pull the gear out. Ooh, all that oil makes a vacuum seal and makes it harder to pull, doesn't it? :-) Now align the gear's slot to where it was when the gear came out (and get the offset on the proper side!). Push it into the pump. Feel for the tang to drop into the pump. Didn't work? Pull it out, turn the pump JUST A HAIR and try again. Repeat. repeat. repeat. It's taken me a half-hour to get it to drop. When it's in, the slot should be where it was when you started. Install the pedestal, the tach drive, the oil line. Install the distributor. If the tang won't engage, but WILL engage if you turn the rotor 180 degrees, then sorry to say you put the gear in a half-turn off. Take it apart and do it again. (or cheat and rotate the wires on the cap. Promise you'll get it right 'the next time'). TIP ON SETTING THE TIMING. On the bottom of the distributor is a bolt. Loosen it. Install the unit, put the pointer at 0 degrees and tighten the screw. Time the engine by rotating the distributor (pointer does NOT move), then tighten the bolt when done. Now the pointer will indicate degrees advance/retard from the factory setting! Neat, huh? Sorry for the length... -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 16:29:01 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Pamela Pepoy" , Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 18:23:52 -0400 Subject: Re: copper brake lines? I use copper lines and run rubber tubing wherever they may touch any metal part and I secure them so they don't vibrate. I also double flare them - carefully. It's heavy wall copper tubing, not the thin wall stuff at Home Depot. After 15 years so far so good and my brakes don't rust from all the rust in the original steel lines. FWIW, Stainless is impossible to double flare w/o using hardened steel tools. Sure you'll do one or two w/your regular stuff but after that it mushes all the points. Don't ask me how I know. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Pamela Pepoy To: Cc: datsunmike ; shifty ; roadsters Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 10:23 PM Subject: Re: copper brake lines? > Howdy, > Soft material, vibrations = metal fatigue, woo, woo, whoopee...no brakes. > Could be exciting...once. Or, soft material rubs on harder material...same conclusion. > > Guy > > > svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com wrote: > > > Anyone know WHY copper brake lines are illegal? I'm guessing it's a strength issue. > > > > Gary McCormick > > San Jose, CA > > > > datsunmike wrote: > > > > > Leigh, > > > > > > Copper lines are illegal in the US. But don't tell anyone as I run copper > > > lines. > > > > > > Mike > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: shifty > > > To: roadsters > > > Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 1:06 AM > > > Subject: copper brake lines? > > > > > > > I've been reading Practical Classics again (there is a roadster picture in > > > > the Oct issue - kind of hard to find!). > > > > > > > > They tout the virtues of copper brake lines "to prevent corrosion". Seems > > > > like steel lines would be better. I just bent some steel lines and they > > > > weren't that hard to do. Is there an advantage to copper? > > > > > > > > Leigh Brooks > > > > BADROC > > > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 16:36:41 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Lehinger" , Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 18:31:35 -0400 Subject: Re: Alum. flywheels - Datsun While aluminum flywheels are great for a race car, they're lousy for a modified/stock street car. Several years ago I drove a 510 and a Z that had aluminum flywheels and they shook like crazy as the flywheel was too light to dampen the engine vibrations. You also needed a lot of revs to start them from stop, even a modified Z engine. My neighbor had one in his MGB and ripped it out as soon as he could. A lightened steel flywheel is IMHO a much better alternative and cheaper. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Lehinger To: Datsun-Roadsters Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 7:34 AM Subject: FW: Alum. flywheels - Datsun > I called Donato yesterday - they are about 1 hr sw of Ft Wayne. Donato > makes parts for racing vipers - trans ets. Jim races a spridget. Below is > what he currently carries. He can give a better price starting at 10 - any > interest? I can get hum a stock u20 flywheel. > Lee Ehinger > OROC > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim D [mailto:donato1@netusa1.net] > Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 10:08 PM > To: Lehinger@fwi.com > Subject: Re: Alum. flywheels - Datsun > > > Lee, > I have the spec's on the following for Nissan > 240sx,300zx,300 zx-turbo, 300 zx non-turbo > 240, 260 ,280 z 's > 1200(B110) > 411, 510, 610, and 710 > All aluminum flywheels have a 1050 high alloy steel clutch surface, > all machined and only grade 10 or better hardware. I can get you a > quote on your flywheel if you can send me a stock to copy and make a > print. > The only hang up may be matching up a ring gear, and it's cost > My best quess would be in the $ 315 to 340 range > Thanks for your interest > Jim D > > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 16:48:12 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: , , Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 18:42:41 -0400 Subject: Re: New Vendor...? Gary, What's a "fur piece"? Like a rug on the head????? Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Datsun Roadster List Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 5:43 PM Subject: Re: New Vendor...? > This guy is a fur piece from the Bay Area, but might be a resource for Roadsters traveling > between Shasta and points south. > > Gary McCormick > San Jose > > CalSpeed@aol.com wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > Check this out! I just found this new Datsun Repair guy up here in > > California. Anyway, I dropped him and email but he never returned it. > > Strange huh...? Anyway, here is the link. > > > > Classic Euro-Asian > > > > Calspeed > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 18:03:56 2000 From: "Adam Fox" To: "Matt Peterson" , Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 10:59:03 +1000 Subject: Re: checklist for starting rebuilt engine? Its not really feasable on the L series engines to prime them as you would have to remove the oilpump to take the distributor/oilpump drive shaft out, it will only come out the bottom, and you cant spin the oilpump with this shaft in place. If everything was liberaly coated in oil on reassembly, and you filled your oil pump with oil before you bolted it up, you should be fine, make sure you fill your oil filter with oil before you screw that on, then with the plugs out spin it over for a good while, 30sec or so in bursts. Then when you start it keep a good eye on the oil light, if it doesnt come up to pressure within 5 seconds or so switch off and repeat above procedure. Your main concern will be the cam towers, if these heat up due to lack of lube they will expand and temporarily seize. So go nuts with the oil up there before you start. Good luck. Adam ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Peterson To: Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 1:27 AM Subject: checklist for starting rebuilt engine? > Hi everyone, > > I've been in lurk mode for a while now. I think it's mainly because I > haven't been able to drive my roadster ever since I took out the old engine > a few months back. I'm writing now because I have the L20b engine in that I > rebuilt this past summer and am hoping on starting it up finally this > weekend. I have everying hooked up right to my knowledge and I'd like to > know if any of you have a type of checklist to go through to start up a > rebuilt engine. Also is there any break-in period that I shouldn't drive it > hard? > > Hoping it will start up, > > Matt Peterson > Zimmerman, MN > '68 1600 (will be L20b powered once it starts) > _________________________________________________________________________ > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 18:13:56 2000 From: SRL311KA@aol.com To: VulForge@aol.com, LarryD@pengrowth.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 20:12:22 EDT Subject: Re: checklist for starting rebuilt engine? On an L series engine, you must remove the oil pump to remove the distributor drive shaft. Bill Kenyon SRL311 KA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 18:42:01 2000 From: "The Blair's" To: "Roadster List" Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 17:44:08 -0700 Subject: I've got a positive ground 1500. I can't seem to get the temperature gauge to work. When I bought the car, the sending unit was broken off. I checked the dash gauge by grounding the wire to the frame and the dash gauge moves from "hot" to "cold" . So I bought a new sender. Now with the new sender in the car, the gauge stays at "hot" all the time. So, I am confused. So here are my questions: Is the sender supposed to have continuity to ground when it's cold? If it did, the gauge would read cold. Mine has no continuity when cold. Is the dash gauge "rest position" when the key off supposed to be hot? If not, maybe my dash gauge is bad. Reversing the wires on the gauge has no effect. Any Ideas??? Joe Blair Granite Bay, Ca 1964 SPL 310 #2775D jblair@rcsis.com 916-791-5009 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 19:24:21 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: datsunmike@nyc.rr.com, svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com, Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 21:22:46 EDT Subject: Re: New Vendor...? Mike, Didn't you read the posts a few days ago? That is part of the upholstery options for the Canadian cars. Sid >From: "datsunmike" >Reply-To: "datsunmike" >To: , , "Datsun >Roadster List" >Subject: Re: New Vendor...? >Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 18:42:41 -0400 > >Gary, > >What's a "fur piece"? Like a rug on the head????? > >Mike >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: ; Datsun Roadster List > >Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 5:43 PM >Subject: Re: New Vendor...? > > > > This guy is a fur piece from the Bay Area, but might be a resource for >Roadsters traveling > > between Shasta and points south. > > > > Gary McCormick > > San Jose > > > > CalSpeed@aol.com wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > Check this out! I just found this new Datsun Repair guy up here in > > > California. Anyway, I dropped him and email but he never returned it. > > > Strange huh...? Anyway, here is the link. > > > > > > Classic >Euro-Asian > > > > > > Calspeed > > > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 19:38:57 2000 From: "The Blair's" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 18:41:17 -0700 Subject: Temp Gauge I've got a positive ground 1500. I can't seem to get the temperature gauge to work. When I bought the car, the sending unit was broken off. I checked the dash gauge by grounding the wire to the frame and the dash gauge moves from "hot" to "cold". So I bought a new sender. Now with the new sender in the car, the gauge stays at "hot" all the time. So, I am confused. So here are my questions: Is the sender supposed to have continuity to ground when it's cold? If it did, the gauge would read cold. Mine has no continuity when cold. Is the dash gauge "rest position" when the key off supposed to be hot? If not, maybe my dash gauge is bad. Reversing the wires on the gauge has no effect. Any Ideas??? Joe Blair Granite Bay, Ca 1964 SPL 310 #2775D jblair@rcsis.com 916-791-5009 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 19:41:01 2000 From: Joseph Roach To: "The Blair's" , Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 18:39:38 -0700 Subject: Re: 1500 temp gauge With the ignition off, the temp gauge rests all the way to the right -- hot. Turn the key on and the gauge needle will move left and rest at cold. I've heard of people having trouble grounding the sending unit itself. You may want to try grounding the sending unit out of the block and then turn the ignition "on" to see if the gauge will read cold and go from there. Joseph Roach 65 1500 San Diego, CA At 05:44 PM 10/17/00 -0700, The Blair's wrote: >I've got a positive ground 1500. I can't seem to get the temperature gauge >to work. >When I bought the car, the sending unit was broken off. I checked the dash >gauge >by grounding the wire to the frame and the dash gauge moves from "hot" to >"cold" >. So I bought a new sender. Now with the new sender in the car, the gauge >stays >at "hot" all the time. So, I am confused. >So here are my questions: >Is the sender supposed to have continuity to ground when it's cold? >If it did, the gauge would read cold. Mine has no continuity when cold. >Is the dash gauge "rest position" when the key off supposed to be hot? >If not, maybe my dash gauge is bad. >Reversing the wires on the gauge has no effect. > >Any Ideas??? >Joe Blair >Granite Bay, Ca >1964 SPL 310 #2775D >jblair@rcsis.com >916-791-5009 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 21:04:51 2000 From: "Pam & Paul Bauman" To: "Roadster List" Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 19:59:18 -0700 Subject: i give up Ok, I posted a picture of a part on the Photopoint site. What is it, and much more importantly, where does it go? Can't seem to find it in any parts book breakout. Paul Bauman Westminster, CA 67 1600 http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=881168&a=6499541 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 21:13:42 2000 From: Dat2000srl@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 23:11:50 EDT Subject: Re: i give up Are you sure it is a Datsun part, it looks like a flappyyupsomthang, With a couple holes in it to reduce the weight. I see it is not the original color either. Larry From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 21:25:25 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: plhbauman@earthlink.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 23:22:26 EDT Subject: Re: i give up Paul, That is too easy. It is the bracket that goes behind the drivers side engine mount against the block. It's purpose is for you to bolt the exhaust brace and heat shield to it to prevent the exhaust manifold from breaking. Check this pic from Gordon's site: http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/Images/5-1.gif It is part number 24. the illustration is not that good - other parts are in the foreground. What is my prize? Sid >From: "Pam & Paul Bauman" >Reply-To: "Pam & Paul Bauman" >To: "Roadster List" >Subject: i give up >Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 19:59:18 -0700 > >Ok, I posted a picture of a part on the Photopoint site. What is it, and >much more importantly, where does it go? Can't seem to find it in any parts >book breakout. > >Paul Bauman >Westminster, CA >67 1600 >http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=881168&a=6499541 > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 21:29:28 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: Dat2000srl@aol.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 23:25:37 EDT Subject: Re: i give up Au contraire! But it is the original color for an early car! The early cars had black engines (the REALLY early cars had RED engines!) Sid >From: Dat2000srl@aol.com >Reply-To: Dat2000srl@aol.com >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Re: i give up >Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 23:11:50 EDT > >Are you sure it is a Datsun part, it looks like a flappyyupsomthang, With a >couple holes in it to reduce the weight. I see it is not the original color >either. >Larry _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 21:33:37 2000 From: "rvedgar" To: "Pam & Paul Bauman" , Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 22:27:40 -0400 Subject: RE: i give up Paul Does that bolt pattern match you motor mounts?? Just a thought. Ron > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > [mailto:owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Pam & Paul > Bauman > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 10:59 PM > To: Roadster List > Subject: i give up > > > Ok, I posted a picture of a part on the Photopoint site. What is it, and > much more importantly, where does it go? Can't seem to find it in > any parts > book breakout. > > Paul Bauman > Westminster, CA > 67 1600 > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=881168&a=6499541 > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 22:23:18 2000 From: R Haug To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 21:22:43 -0700 Subject: 66 1600 High All, I returned from Lewiston after looking at a 66 1600. It was a little rough but had a number of decent parts on it. It was SPL311 01083 with a U20 and 5 speed. It came with the 1600 and 4 speed too. U20 # was 08408. Car had a header on the studs but the intake and carbs were off. Had several sets of SUs in the car. Body was not completely straight. There was a little damage. Had pretty good side trim, but not perfect. Stock rims with hub caps. Grill was rusty. It was missing some of the emblems. Windshield was cracked. Had a hard top and a tonneau cover. No soft top. Hard top had the lunch box type latches. Car had not been driven for 15 or more years as it has been in storage at least that long. It sat through the mount St. Hellens eruption too so I think it has been out of comission for 20+ years. It still had ash in the cowl vent area.. I think that the car may have been from Seattle or Portland. It did have some South Dakota University parking stickers in the back window. Thought I would offer quite a bit less than what he was asking for the car. If I buy it I will have a bunch of parts for sell. Bob From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 22:44:25 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: spl310@hotmail.com, plhbauman@earthlink.net, Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 00:43:23 EDT Subject: Re: i give up In a message dated 10/18/00 3:29:06 AM !!!First Boot!!!, spl310@hotmail.com writes: << That is too easy. It is the bracket that goes behind the drivers side engine mount against the block. What is my prize? >> Wow... you win a free restoration. Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 22:57:51 2000 From: T and E Corcoran To: "The Blair's" Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 21:53:02 -0700 Subject: Re:1500 temp sender Joe, The sending unit is probably the wrong one. 1600's and 2000's use a sender that might look the same but has different characteristics. One will increase resistance with an increase in temperature, the other will have a decrease in resistance with an increase in temperature. Polarity has nothing to do with it. 1500's have a unique temp sender. This can be verified by measuring the resistance of the sender in a cup of ice water and then in hot water. I believe you want the one that shows a decrease in resistance as temp rises. (negative temperature coefficient). I think your wiring and gauge is ok. Regards, Tim C. 2 '64 1500 Fairlady's The Blair's wrote: > I've got a positive ground 1500. I can't seem to get the temperature gauge > to work. > When I bought the car, the sending unit was broken off. I checked the dash > gauge > by grounding the wire to the frame and the dash gauge moves from "hot" to > "cold" > . So I bought a new sender. Now with the new sender in the car, the gauge > stays > at "hot" all the time. So, I am confused. > So here are my questions: > Is the sender supposed to have continuity to ground when it's cold? > If it did, the gauge would read cold. Mine has no continuity when cold. > Is the dash gauge "rest position" when the key off supposed to be hot? > If not, maybe my dash gauge is bad. > Reversing the wires on the gauge has no effect. > > Any Ideas??? > Joe Blair > Granite Bay, Ca > 1964 SPL 310 #2775D > jblair@rcsis.com > 916-791-5009 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 17 23:51:43 2000 From: "Dan Zubkoff" To: jblair@rcsis.com Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 05:50:34 GMT Subject: Re:1500 temp sender As Tim has mentioned....make sure you have the proper temp sender. Another problem I have observed with the 1500's is if sensor (when installed) does not have a really good ground, it may not work properly. Dan Zubkoff San Mateo, CA >From: T and E Corcoran >Reply-To: T and E Corcoran >To: "The Blair's" >CC: Roadster List >Subject: Re:1500 temp sender >Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 21:53:02 -0700 > >Joe, >The sending unit is probably the wrong one. 1600's and 2000's use a sender >that might look the same but has different characteristics. One will >increase >resistance with an increase in temperature, the other will have a decrease >in >resistance with an increase in temperature. Polarity has nothing to do with >it. 1500's have a unique temp sender. This can be verified by measuring the >resistance of the sender in a cup of ice water and then in hot water. I >believe you want the one that shows a decrease in resistance as temp rises. >(negative temperature coefficient). I think your wiring and gauge is ok. >Regards, >Tim C. >2 '64 1500 Fairlady's > >The Blair's wrote: > > > I've got a positive ground 1500. I can't seem to get the temperature >gauge > > to work. > > When I bought the car, the sending unit was broken off. I checked the >dash > > gauge > > by grounding the wire to the frame and the dash gauge moves from "hot" >to > > "cold" > > . So I bought a new sender. Now with the new sender in the car, the >gauge > > stays > > at "hot" all the time. So, I am confused. > > So here are my questions: > > Is the sender supposed to have continuity to ground when it's cold? > > If it did, the gauge would read cold. Mine has no continuity when cold. > > Is the dash gauge "rest position" when the key off supposed to be hot? > > If not, maybe my dash gauge is bad. > > Reversing the wires on the gauge has no effect. > > > > Any Ideas??? > > Joe Blair > > Granite Bay, Ca > > 1964 SPL 310 #2775D > > jblair@rcsis.com > > 916-791-5009 > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 18 00:39:16 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 02:38:36 EDT Subject: 1500 Grille Hello, I have a beautiful 1500 grill that I dont think I will ever use again. I had it installed on my car for the Shasta 2000 Meet and it was nice but I went back to the stock look. It is very nicly polished out and looks very nice. It does not include the chrome surround or the mesh netting on the inside. It is just the grill, center piece. All I did was install it on my existing 2000 grill. Fits very well if you have a decent 2000 grill surround. I would rate this piece as a 8.5 out of 10. Once again, I just dont need anymore clutter in the garage. I have it hanging on the wall and I need the space for next years Solvang, Shasta and Doheney trophies. ;>) I cant find a pic of it anywhere. Does anyone have a Shasta 2000 site up with a picture of the grill? Michael "Calspeed" Carion 1967.5 2000 Solex From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 18 08:14:43 2000 From: "Matt Peterson" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 14:14:00 GMT Subject: checklist responses appreciated Thank's for all the responses to my request for a checklist on starting my engine. I'm very grateful for the info. I really don't want to destroy this thing trying to start it up. I'll keep you all posted on how it turns out. Matt Peterson 68 1600 Zimmerman, MN _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 18 09:07:14 2000 From: "Brian St. Jacques" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 08:04:06 -0700 Subject: Re: i give up No idea on the part, but your car is absolutely beautiful. Wow. Everything is so shiny and new looking. I am in love with your beautiful clean trunk. Absolutely inspiring... At 07:59 PM 10/17/2000, Pam & Paul Bauman wrote: >Ok, I posted a picture of a part on the Photopoint site. What is it, and >much more importantly, where does it go? Can't seem to find it in any parts >book breakout. > >Paul Bauman >Westminster, CA >67 1600 >http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=881168&a=6499541 Brian '68 1600 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 18 09:30:16 2000 From: "David A. Fox" To: pmiller@megapathdsl.net Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 11:29:26 EDT Subject: OT: List Clutter Ditto; The people make the list not just the content. But I respect your views BS&CW, DAFox ----Original Message Follows---- "Btw, the list is ok with me even with all the (ot) stuff, I do understand the guys point of veiw and dont think we should be too hard on him for having it...He's entitled" Roman ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Victor Laury" Reply-To: "Victor Laury" To: , Subject: Re: List Clutter Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 21:24:07 -0700 Thank you for your wonderfull statments. Yes we are a talkitive bunch, and mighty friendly at that. This list has always been a bit loose and I sure hope it stays that way. Every so often someone complains about content. Oh Well. I for one feel slightly disappointed when clutter is down. See I like these folks, I want to hear what they got to say. They're my friends. I know this list will come through with some great wacky stories and an occasional off topic rant. But if it's too much for you, Please (bold)(underline) subscribe to the digest format. That way you'll get one email daily. Victor 70 SRL 31113136 Los Angeles http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=123073 SoCalROC http://www.ameri-eagle.com/datsun/ _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 18 11:21:31 2000 From: To: plhbauman@earthlink.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:20:46 -0500 Subject: Roadster fuel filler Wow! Your car looks great!! I notice what looked like a new fuel filler hose going from the gas tank to the fuel filler. Is this something you purchased from one of the vendors or did you cobble something up from another source. Mine is way bad, and I would really like to replace it before the SEROC outing this weekend. Thanks. Chris Brucciani 1968 2000 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 18 11:23:22 2000 From: "Hall, Phillip" To: "Roadsters (E-mail)" , Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:26:01 -0500 Subject: Market survey - springs/sway bars Hey fellow Listers, Roadster friends - As you may remember I have been looking for comp front springs. I was told by our great vendors that Nissan is out of comp front springs and comp sway bars and a good possibility they will not make any more. With this in mind I have been in contact with a spring manufacture that can build front springs for the Roadster and possibly an adjustable comp sway bar. This manufacture is VERY reputable and builds comp springs for the Miata and others. Build quality would surpass the Nissan parts and would come powder coated and fully tested to OE quality standards. To build the springs/sway bars they need a minimum order. So I pose a simple question: ----How many would be interested in comp springs and/or sway bars? Because of the superb engineering staff of the manufacture, we could build springs that have the benefits of the comp spring ride height with a slightly less aggressive spring rate for better ride. I would like to get these made to help the Roadster community. This would not be a venture to make a lot of money, so pricing would be less than the Nissan parts. Vendors had Nissan springs for $150.00 and $125.00 for sway bars. Please respond back to me off list. Your response does not mean you are committed to buying springs/sway bars - only to see if you would be interested in one of these items now or in the future. Thank you for your time. And above all "Happy Roadstering". Phil SEROC From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 18 12:12:56 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: Phillip.Hall@msfc.nasa.gov Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 11:12:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Market survey - springs/sway bars Hello, I have the comp swaybar/springs on my car. What would be the benefits of having an adjustable swaybar?? Actually I am not even sure what that means exactly. Daniel 69 2000 SF CA > Hey fellow Listers, Roadster friends - > > As you may remember I have been looking for comp front springs. I was told > by our great vendors that Nissan is out of comp front springs and comp sway > bars and a good possibility they will not make any more. With this in mind > I have been in contact with a spring manufacture that can build front > springs for the Roadster and possibly an adjustable comp sway bar. This > manufacture is VERY reputable and builds comp springs for the Miata and > others. Build quality would surpass the Nissan parts and would come powder > coated and fully tested to OE quality standards. To build the springs/sway > bars they need a minimum order. So I pose a simple question: > > ----How many would be interested in comp springs and/or sway bars? > > Because of the superb engineering staff of the manufacture, we could build > springs that have the benefits of the comp spring ride height with a > slightly less aggressive spring rate for better ride. > > I would like to get these made to help the Roadster community. This would > not be a venture to make a lot of money, so pricing would be less than the > Nissan parts. Vendors had Nissan springs for $150.00 and $125.00 for sway > bars. > > Please respond back to me off list. Your response does not mean you are > committed to buying springs/sway bars - only to see if you would be > interested in one of these items now or in the future. > > Thank you for your time. And above all "Happy Roadstering". > > Phil > SEROC > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 18 12:26:35 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: Chris.Brucciani@ercgroup.com, plhbauman@earthlink.net, Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 14:25:57 EDT Subject: Re: Roadster fuel filler I was just at the local Discount Auto Parts - they have the filler hose for $14. Don't be alarmed at the price though. There is enough there to do 4 or 5 cars. Sid >From: >Reply-To: >To: plhbauman@earthlink.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Roadster fuel filler >Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:20:46 -0500 > >Wow! Your car looks great!! I notice what looked like a new fuel filler >hose going from the gas tank to the fuel filler. Is this something you >purchased from one of the vendors or did you cobble something up from >another source. Mine is way bad, and I would really like to replace it >before the SEROC outing this weekend. Thanks. > >Chris Brucciani >1968 2000 > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 18 12:52:39 2000 From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 11:48:26 -0700 Subject: Jimmys Old Car Show BADROC pics Well, I posted some BADROC pics from our picnic gathering at the old car show in SF a couple Sundays ago. But... a moving 360-degree panorama that displayed fine in my home browser has glitches when I try to run it on my work PC. So some of you may not see it either. I'll try to figure out what happened tonight. I've only got 12 pics there now, with more to come later. http://www.2xtreme.net/fredkatz/jim1000a.html Fred "katman" - So.SF BADROC From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 18 13:15:57 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:07:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Jimmys Old Car Show BADROC pics Hey Fred, Great pics I love the crazy panarama shot. But.. the shot you have labled kens cool gauges.. is actually MY CAR!!!! And the shot you ahve labeled 'Ken newest badroc member' should be called Sleepy HungOver Dan and Irene.... Daniel > Well, I posted some BADROC pics from our picnic gathering at the old car > show in SF a couple Sundays ago. But... a moving 360-degree panorama that > displayed fine in my home browser has glitches when I try to run it on my > work PC. So some of you may not see it either. I'll try to figure out what > happened tonight. I've only got 12 pics there now, with more to come later. > > http://www.2xtreme.net/fredkatz/jim1000a.html > > Fred "katman" - So.SF > BADROC > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 18 14:19:10 2000 From: "Hall, Phillip" To: "Roadsters (E-mail)" Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 15:21:34 -0500 Subject: FW: Market survey - springs/sway bars Stan forgot to cc the list so I forwarded it to you all. -----Original Message----- From: STAN CHERNOFF [SMTP:az589@lafn.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 3:15 PM To: Hall, Phillip Subject: Re: Market survey - springs/sway bars Hi list, I have a pair of new comp springs, P/N 54010-25510, that I will sell for $200 for the pair. Nissan list is $78.15 each and they don't have any in stock at this time. Stan Torrance, CA =========================================== At 12:26 PM 10/18/00 -0500, you wrote: >Hey fellow Listers, Roadster friends - > >As you may remember I have been looking for comp front springs. I was told >by our great vendors that Nissan is out of comp front springs and comp sway >bars and a good possibility they will not make any more. From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 18 14:19:47 2000 From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, "Matt Peterson" Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 13:20:01 -0700 Subject: Re: checklist responses appreciated This reminds me of when my next-door neighbor fired up his '67 Mustang last year, after it sat for over 20 years. He made sure he changed out the oil and coolant. He and a friend kicked it over and revved it quite a few times... after a little while they noticed a big oil slick all over the garage floor. Yep, they forgot to put on the oil filter! For some strange reason the car still hasn't made it out of the garage... Fred - So.SF ________________________ Reply Separator _________________________ >Subject: checklist responses appreciated >Author: "Matt Peterson" >Date: 10/18/2000 2:14 PM > >Thank's for all the responses to my request for a checklist on starting my >engine. I'm very grateful for the info. I really don't want to destroy >this thing trying to start it up. I'll keep you all posted on how it >turns out. > >Matt Peterson >68 1600 >Zimmerman, MN >_________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 18 14:22:18 2000 From: "Mike Kerr" To: , , Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 13:17:33 -0700 Subject: Re: New Vendor...? Dave baker is the guy up in orville , he had worked with me in the past and has moved back into the northren CA area and set up a nice shop, he has all the equipment to do complete restoration and severvice work on the roadsters , he is also into BMWs. I'm working with Dave on getting set up to do complete restorations of roadsters again , he has a good crew up there and is proud of his work , I'm mostly doing the paper work and parts end for dave , I also will help him with any of the tectnical work that needs done. Dave has Low overhead being in orville, and is very good at what he does , so his prices will be very compeditive.. If you have a car that needs a lot of work then it would be worth to travel the disatnce to have the work done. He also offers pick up and dilevery sevices, and has some storage capasity also .. Mike Kerr Roadster Restoration PH# 530-644-6777 Fax # 530-644-7252 Web page WWW.innercite.com/~wolfgang ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 2:43 PM Subject: Re: New Vendor...? > This guy is a fur piece from the Bay Area, but might be a resource for Roadsters traveling > between Shasta and points south. > > Gary McCormick > San Jose > > CalSpeed@aol.com wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > Check this out! I just found this new Datsun Repair guy up here in > > California. Anyway, I dropped him and email but he never returned it. > > Strange huh...? Anyway, here is the link. > > > > Classic Euro-Asian > > > > Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 18 15:32:33 2000 From: RoadsteRob@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 17:31:42 EDT Subject: Bob Sharp/Bobby Studdard & HELP-Tom Brennan? Forgot to mention Next webpages are a major update of Bob Sharp pages (may take a while) and new pages on 1987 ARRC winner (EP) Bobby Studdard. HELP - If anyone knows what number Tom Brennan ran when he beat Bruce Qvale's Jensen Healey and Lee Mueller's TR7 to the line in the 1978 ARRC (DP) I need to know - I have loads of roadster racing pics but can't identify Tom's. Thanks in advance Rob The Classic Fairlady Roadster Register From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 18 15:46:44 2000 From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us To: "Hall; Phillip" , Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 14:23:26 -0700 Subject: Re[2]: Jimmys Old Car Show BADROC pics Phil, Ha-ha! Let me share this with the list. The location was Speedway Meadow in San Francisco's Golden Gate Park. Back in the sixties a lot of people probably saw the meadow just like that moving picture (psychedelic). In the sixties, I went to rock concerts (and anti-war demonstrations) at Speedway Meadow. Those days, The Jefferson Airplane, Grateful Dead, Santana, etc. played for free. Various forms of substance abuse went on and everyone had a mellow time. A plus for this teenage boy was that many gals went topless at the concerts (and some bottomless). (Must be colder now since that doesn't happen anymore, sigh.) Being at Jimmy's Old Car Show Picnic with all the fifties and sixties cars brought up some good deja-vu memories! Fred - So.SF _________________________ Reply Separator _________________________ >Subject: RE: Jimmys Old Car Show BADROC pics >Author: "Hall; Phillip" >Date: 10/18/2000 2:28 PM > >Very nice pictures Fred! For a second I though someone put something in >my Dr. Pepper. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us [SMTP:Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us] Sent: >Wednesday, October 18, 2000 1:48 PM >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Jimmys Old Car Show >BADROC pics > >Well, I posted some BADROC pics from our picnic gathering at the old >car >show in SF a couple Sundays ago. But... a moving 360-degree panorama >that >displayed fine in my home browser has glitches when I try to run it >on my >work PC. So some of you may not see it either. I'll try to figure >out what >happened tonight. I've only got 12 pics there now, with more to come >later. > >http://www.2xtreme.net/fredkatz/jim1000a.html > >Fred "katman" - So.SF >BADROC From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 18 15:56:57 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: mikekerr@innercite.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 17:56:16 EDT Subject: Re: New Vendor...? In a message dated 10/18/00 1:24:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mikekerr@innercite.com writes: << Dave baker is the guy up in orville , he had worked with me in the past and has moved back into the northren CA area >> Any ideas about being a stopover for the Shasta Caravaners next year? I am sure that there will be interest in this new shop. Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 18 16:50:16 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us, Phillip.Hall@msfc.nasa.gov, Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 18:46:41 EDT Subject: Re: Re[2]: Jimmys Old Car Show BADROC pics << Ha-ha! Let me share this with the list. The location was Speedway Meadow in San Francisco's Golden Gate Park. Back in the sixties a lot of people probably saw the meadow just like that moving picture (psychedelic). Various forms of substance abuse went on and everyone had a mellow time. Being at Jimmy's Old Car Show Picnic with all the fifties and sixties cars brought up some good deja-vu memories! >> Yeah.... but Katman that still wasnt a good excuse for lighting up during the picnic. Whether or not you were honoring the Doobie Brothers. ;>) Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 18 17:02:58 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 18:56:20 -0400 Subject: O/T CNN.com - End of the line for the Mini - October 4, 2000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01C03935.1A9B2900 charset="iso-8859-1" > > > http://www.cnn.com/2000/WORLD/europe/UK/10/04/mini.end/index.html > ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01C03935.1A9B2900 name="CNN.com~-~End~of~the~line~for~the~Mini~-~October~4,~2000.url" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="CNN.com~-~End~of~the~line~for~the~Mini~-~October~4,~2000.url" [DEFAULT] BASEURL=http://www.cnn.com/2000/WORLD/europe/UK/10/04/mini.end/index.html [InternetShortcut] URL=http://www.cnn.com/2000/WORLD/europe/UK/10/04/mini.end/index.html Modified=208464C63539C001FD ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01C03935.1A9B2900-- From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 18 19:38:18 2000 From: "Bill Barber" To: "Datsun Roadsters" Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 18:39:56 -0700 Subject: Re: checklist responses appreciated Long before I had gotten to this list, I started my car after it had sat for about 7 years (near as I could tell from the last title). I had changed the fluids, had the radiator boiled out, replaced hoses, oil filter, fuel filter, cleaned the gas tank, fuel lines, changed spark plugs, wires, cap, rotor, etc. KEY THINGS I DID NOT DO: 1. squirt oil/kerosene/mystery oil/your choice of lube here in the cylinders via spark plug holes. 2. remove the valve cover to see how things looked. Needless to say, as I tried to start it, (I did do the distro cap off turn over to get oil pressure up) gas was POURING out the Weber 45DCOEs, and it stumbled, but never caught. My neighbor (bless his hot roddin' heart) broke out his can of ETHER to help things along. He used it to start his 1973 Peterbuilt (mint) on real cold days. VROOOM! Engine ran great! FOR 15 MINUTES...... Then, would never start again. Diagnosis : Rings may have been rusty, or cylinders had absolutely no oil coating them, so , they got ate up in the startup. Later compression tests confirm bad rings, pressure was about 35~40 psi all around. Prognosis: This engine will not run until a rebuild, and those Webers need to go. Can anyone else relate? I am start a support group after this.... that was 6 years ago and it still brings tears to my eyes........ List, thanks for listening, and, above all, thanks for all the tips, advice, and support you give everyone. At least I benefit from EVERY story that gets transmitted in some way. Bill Barber SRL311-09363 (NOROC - Non-Operating Roadster Owner's Club) From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 18 21:10:34 2000 From: PLETCH5@aol.com To: CalSpeed@aol.com, mikekerr@innercite.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 23:09:21 EDT Subject: Re: New Vendor...? is it on the way? I don't know where Oroville is Ken DATSTER From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 18 23:50:54 2000 From: Pamela Pepoy To: Bill Barber Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 22:58:40 -0700 Subject: Re: checklist responses appreciated Bill, Is NOROC accepting new members. The list is great but....I really need to "belong". Everybody's car goes varoom, varoom and eats 914's. Mine just sits there sorta. Does NOROC give prizes to the member that has his or her car in the most number of pieces? Guy 1967.5 SPL Tempe,AZ Bill Barber wrote: > Long before I had gotten to this list, I started my car after it had sat for > about 7 years (near as I could tell from the last title). I had changed the > fluids, had the radiator boiled out, replaced hoses, oil filter, fuel > filter, cleaned the gas tank, fuel lines, changed spark plugs, wires, cap, > rotor, etc. > > KEY THINGS I DID NOT DO: > 1. squirt oil/kerosene/mystery oil/your choice of lube here in the cylinders > via spark plug holes. > 2. remove the valve cover to see how things looked. > > Needless to say, as I tried to start it, (I did do the distro cap off turn > over to get oil pressure up) gas was POURING out the Weber 45DCOEs, and it > stumbled, but never caught. My neighbor (bless his hot roddin' heart) broke > out his can of ETHER to help things along. He used it to start his 1973 > Peterbuilt (mint) on real cold days. > > VROOOM! Engine ran great! > > FOR 15 MINUTES...... > > Then, would never start again. > > Diagnosis : Rings may have been rusty, or cylinders had absolutely no oil > coating them, so , they got ate up in the startup. Later compression tests > confirm bad rings, pressure was about 35~40 psi all around. > > Prognosis: This engine will not run until a rebuild, and those Webers need > to go. > > Can anyone else relate? I am start a support group after this.... that was 6 > years ago and it still brings tears to my eyes........ > > List, thanks for listening, and, above all, thanks for all the tips, advice, > and support you give everyone. At least I benefit from EVERY story that gets > transmitted in some way. > > Bill Barber > SRL311-09363 (NOROC - Non-Operating Roadster Owner's Club) From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 00:12:51 2000 From: "Victor Laury" To: Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 22:53:53 -0700 Subject: The operation was a success It seems that the recent "starter" thread was a curse and a cue for my starter to give up. I even picked up a starter from Roman to have rebuilt for his 70 1600 restore project. I stopped it off at the rebuilders and the very next day, my starter died. So, now his rebuilt is in my car and my old one goes to the shop tomorrow. Then it will take it's place in Roman's car. Musical starters eh? This time I found that the starter would fit through the infamous gap between the frame and the body. When I think back on the last time I changed this dam thing and I took the steering column out, I'm embarrassed. I still had to remove the carbs and heat shield to get that top bolt. I've added a heat shield wrap and a heavy ground strap from the lower bolt to the frame. Hopefully, these two additions will give me a starter that lasts longer than three years. Victor 70 SRL 31113136 Los Angeles http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=123073 SoCalROC http://www.ameri-eagle.com/datsun/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 00:26:01 2000 From: "Bill Barber" To: Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 23:27:56 -0700 Subject: Re: checklist responses appreciated Just out of curiousity, I would like those of you who now have cars that do not run to email me with the model and how long your car has been "hibernating" or "chillin'" or "whatever you mean by not running". To qualify as a NOROC member, you must meet the following qualifications: 1. You cannot own one (1) operating roadster. 2. You dream often about riding around in your non-op roadster. 3. You lurk on email lists in the off chance that someone may describe driving one. 4. You register and attend meets to at least get a t-shirt to disguise yourself at later meets.(Everyone assumes your car ran at the other meet.) This is all in good fun, of course - all NOROC members will remain anonymous unless they decide to step forward. I am disguising my email as we speak, and will be the guy at Doheny with a paper bag over his head 'cause he drove up in a Subaru or Daewoo. Apologize for the bandwidth..... My donation is going out this week.... Bill Barber SRL311-09363 (approaching 13 years, with 40k on the speedo) From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 00:51:00 2000 From: "Victor Laury" To: Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 23:32:03 -0700 Subject: Auto X photos I've added three shots of me at the Autox two weeks ago on my photopoint page. you'll find them in the "autox" folder. These were taken by Dennis at Classic Datsun Motorsports. Thanks Dennis! For a holloween scare, check out my new extreme haircut. It's the last photo in the "me" folder. Believe it or not, this is not a "Fred's Photoshop Creation", I actually did this to my own head! Went from Dead Head to Gang Banger all because I ran out of conditioner. Victor 70 SRL 31113136 Los Angeles http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=123073 SoCalROC http://www.ameri-eagle.com/datsun/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 01:00:29 2000 From: "roadster" To: "Daniel Neuman" Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 00:00:06 -0700 Subject: Re: Jimmys Old Car Show BADROC pics Whoops! Despite what Michael says, I haven't lit up for over 20 years. So chalk it up to getting old (or maybe that stuff did fry my brains). I should have recognized the fancy steering wheel that Irene got you (and the white color of the car, duh). As for "Sleepy HungOver", the changes are done (just how late were you two partying the night before?). Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Neuman" To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 12:07 PM Subject: Re: Jimmys Old Car Show BADROC pics > Hey Fred, > Great pics I love the crazy panarama shot. But.. the shot you have > labled kens cool gauges.. is actually MY CAR!!!! And the shot you ahve > labeled 'Ken newest badroc member' should be called Sleepy HungOver Dan and Irene.... > Daniel > > > Well, I posted some BADROC pics from our picnic gathering at the old car > > show in SF a couple Sundays ago. But... a moving 360-degree panorama that > > displayed fine in my home browser has glitches when I try to run it on my > > work PC. So some of you may not see it either. I'll try to figure out what > > happened tonight. I've only got 12 pics there now, with more to come later. > > > > http://www.2xtreme.net/fredkatz/jim1000a.html > > > > Fred "katman" - So.SF > > BADROC > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 01:27:24 2000 From: Dennis Currington To: Victor Laury Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 00:25:41 -0700 Subject: Re: Auto X photos Victor Laury wrote: > I've added three shots of me at the Autox two weeks ago on my photopoint > page. you'll find them in the "autox" folder. These were taken by Dennis at > Classic Datsun Motorsports. Thanks Dennis! > > For a holloween scare, check out my new extreme haircut. It's the last photo > in the "me" folder. Believe it or not, this is not a "Fred's Photoshop > Creation", I actually did this to my own head! Went from Dead Head to Gang > Banger all because I ran out of conditioner. > > Victor > 70 SRL 31113136 > Los Angeles > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=123073 > SoCalROC http://www.ameri-eagle.com/datsun/ Victor, Pity the kids who come to your door on Halloween. By the way, tell everyone why you had that silly smile on your face in that one shot?? Dennis (at least with a digital camera I wasn't wasting film :-) -- Dennis Currington 1967.5 Solex 2000 San Diego Datsuns.net From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 02:02:36 2000 From: "Adam Fox" To: "sidney raper" Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:41:59 +1000 Subject: please note new email address. adfox@iprimus.com.au Adam Fox From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 04:45:04 2000 From: "The Belgian Roadster" To: Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 12:48:51 +0200 Subject: Exhaust Hi List, It seems that the list is poor on exhaust informations. I only received 2 answers. One sad " no more produced" and the other was "I have the last muffler" Are all american roadsters driven without exhaust? There must be some exhausts on the aftermarket that are similar to our roadster which can be adapted by some welding job! Chris-The Belgian Roadster From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 06:38:48 2000 From: "Ben Zech" To: gppepoy@cybertrails.com, birukun@san.rr.com Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 12:38:15 GMT Subject: Re: checklist responses appreciated Great idea for a 2001 calendar "THE CARS OF NOROC" ;-) BZ-RZ N.C. SPL/SRL "SEROC" motormite@hotmail.com >>Bill, >Is NOROC accepting new members. The list is great but....I really need to >"belong". Everybody's car goes varoom, varoom and eats 914's. Mine just >sits >there sorta _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 06:57:47 2000 From: "Hall, Phillip" To: "Roadsters (E-mail)" Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 08:00:02 -0500 Subject: Yep - alt question again Hey list -question I rewired my alternator last night (GM 60 amp) so it goes directly to the battery and not through the stock wiring. Now my amp gage shows a discharge with the lights on. I checked the voltage at the battery at 2000 RPM with lights on and get a good 14 volts, so I am charging. My question is - with the gage showing discharge am I causing problems with my other wiring. Should I disconnect the gage. I am planning on installing a volt meter in place of the amp gage - the amp gage is an OLD SW and not stock. *******Thanks for the responses on making springs and sway bars. The responses have been great - this may work! If you think you might want to go around corners faster and have not responded, I would love to hear from you! Phil SEROC - and off to Road Atlanta this weekend!!! From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 07:03:23 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: chriss@euregio.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 09:02:41 EDT Subject: Re: Exhaust Chris, I was very fortunatel to be able to locate a NOS exhaust system. Beyond that, most folks that I know have a muffler shop fabricate an exhaust system from scratch. Sorry, but I don't have much more detail. Sid >From: "The Belgian Roadster" >Reply-To: "The Belgian Roadster" >To: >Subject: Exhaust >Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 12:48:51 +0200 > >Hi List, >It seems that the list is poor on exhaust informations. I only >received 2 answers. >One sad " no more produced" and the other was "I have the last >muffler" >Are all american roadsters driven without exhaust? >There must be some exhausts on the aftermarket that are similar to our >roadster which can be adapted by some welding job! > >Chris-The Belgian Roadster > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 07:16:18 2000 From: R Haug To: The Belgian Roadster , Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 06:15:21 -0700 Subject: Re: Exhaust The Belgian Roadster wrote: > Hi List, > It seems that the list is poor on exhaust informations. It is much easier here to take your car to a muffler shop and have them custom bend and install the exhaust system. Bob From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 08:14:50 2000 From: "JAS" To: "Pamela Pepoy" , Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 07:09:54 -0700 Subject: Re: checklist responses appreciated any one out their own a right hand drive 1600 or 200 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 08:15:14 2000 From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 07:14:37 -0700 Subject: Re: New Vendor...? Upper Sacramento Valley, up by Chico... pretty much right on the way from the Bay Area and that other part of California to Shasta (just a little side excursion off of I-5 over on Hwy 70). Gary McCormick San Jose, CA PLETCH5@aol.com wrote: > is it on the way? > I don't know where Oroville is > > Ken > DATSTER From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 08:21:40 2000 From: "Patrick J. Horne" To: "Hall, Phillip" Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 09:21:13 -0500 Subject: Re: Yep - alt question again Don't worry about the ammeter, it is telling you that there is current flowing from the alternator/battery to the lights (load). With the alternator wired directly to the battery you have changed the current path through the ammeter. Before, the load and alternator were on one side of the ammeter, and the battery on the other. The ammeter showed how much current was going to or from the battery. With the alternator connected to the same side of the ammeter as the battery, the only current flowing through the ammeter will be the load current. This is not a useful measurement normally, but I wouldn't take the time to bypass the ammeter, it is not being hurt by staying in the circuit. Peace, Pat -- - Support Habitat for Humanity, A "hand up", not a "hand out" - Pat Horne, Network Manager, Shop Supervisor, Future planner CS Dept, University of Texas, Austin, Tx. 78712 USA voice (512)471-9517, fax (512)471-8885 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 08:59:00 2000 From: "Mike Faggart" To: "Bill Barber" , Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 10:52:58 -0400 Subject: Re: checklist responses appreciated Bill, right now I am a new member from the east. Engine work, been sitting for about 2 months, and will be driving a 4 door to Road Atlanta this weekend. Signed up as the camera car, ha,:} Mike Faggart SEROC, NOROC 68 2L ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Barber" To: Cc: "Datsun Roadsters" Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 2:27 AM Subject: Re: checklist responses appreciated > Just out of curiousity, I would like those of you who now have cars that do > not run to email me with the model and how long your car has been > "hibernating" or "chillin'" or "whatever you mean by not running". > > To qualify as a NOROC member, you must meet the following qualifications: > > 1. You cannot own one (1) operating roadster. > 2. You dream often about riding around in your non-op roadster. > 3. You lurk on email lists in the off chance that someone may describe > driving one. > 4. You register and attend meets to at least get a t-shirt to disguise > yourself at later meets.(Everyone assumes your car ran at the other meet.) > > This is all in good fun, of course - all NOROC members will remain anonymous > unless they decide to step forward. I am disguising my email as we speak, > and will be the guy at Doheny with a paper bag over his head 'cause he drove > up in a Subaru or Daewoo. > > Apologize for the bandwidth..... > My donation is going out this week.... > > Bill Barber > SRL311-09363 (approaching 13 years, with 40k on the speedo) > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 09:21:29 2000 From: "Patrick J. Horne" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 10:20:14 -0500 Subject: Gary Neel? Anyone have Gary Neel's email address and/or phone number? Thanks, Pat -- - Support Habitat for Humanity, A "hand up", not a "hand out" - Pat Horne, Network Manager, Shop Supervisor, Future planner CS Dept, University of Texas, Austin, Tx. 78712 USA voice (512)471-9517, fax (512)471-8885 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 10:44:27 2000 From: sochoux To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 09:43:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: 67.5 1600 FS $1000 b/o Found this on Yahoo! The car is in Mexico! http://classifieds.yahoo.com/display/automobiles?cid=automobiles-0970450463-950730&cc=automobiles Stephan '69 2000 BADROC __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 11:19:29 2000 From: Douglas E Noble To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 18:12:21 +0000 Subject: Recommendations on Auto Transport Firms To the List, An off topic item. Does anyone on the list have experience and/or with specific auto transport firms? I'm buying my sister's truck and need to get it home (Colorado Springs, CO to Vienna, VA). Given ski season airfares, it seems easier/less costly to hire someone. We can do door-to-door or terminal-to-terminal, and are flexible about the specific date. So far, the quotes I have received are between $900 - $1000. Just looking for some input, please respond directly to me. Thanks in advance. Doug Noble Vienna, Virginia SPL311-25006 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 11:52:11 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: sochoux@yahoo.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 13:51:26 EDT Subject: Re: 67.5 1600 FS $1000 b/o All, I have seen pics of this car. It looks like it is a good candidate for restoration from what I saw. Sid >From: sochoux >Reply-To: sochoux >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: 67.5 1600 FS $1000 b/o >Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 09:43:38 -0700 (PDT) > >Found this on Yahoo! > >The car is in Mexico! > >http://classifieds.yahoo.com/display/automobiles?cid=automobiles-0970450463-950730&cc=automobiles > > >Stephan >'69 2000 BADROC > >__________________________________________________ >Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. >http://im.yahoo.com/ _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 12:09:01 2000 From: RiedelD@pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 14:01:34 -0400 Subject: RE: Exhaust I recall that Sports Imports has a re-routing sequence that improves on the original design. You might wish to contact them... -dave '69 2000 > -----Original Message----- > From: R Haug [mailto:haugchiro@moscow.com] > Sent: October 19, 2000 6:15 AM > To: The Belgian Roadster; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: Exhaust > > > The Belgian Roadster wrote: > > > Hi List, > > It seems that the list is poor on exhaust informations. > > It is much easier here to take your car to a muffler shop and > have them > custom bend and install the exhaust system. > Bob > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 12:38:33 2000 From: "John F Sandhoff" To: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 11:36:35 -0700 Subject: Re: New Vendor...? > Upper Sacramento Valley, up by Chico... pretty much right on the way from > the Bay Area and that other part of California to Shasta (just a little side > excursion off of I-5 over on Hwy 70). Well, a tab more than a little side excursion. But neat drive - a chunk is two lane road, pretty flat but pretty, nice Roadster country. But it will add a chunk of time to the trip - I drove Sac-Oroville just last weekend, but in the van alas, and before knowing this guy was there. I was probably about 6 blocks from his shop, and didn't even know he was there! Oroville is reasonably near to the Sacramento Valley Amphitheatre. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 13:51:07 2000 From: SPL311RDST@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 15:49:37 EDT Subject: Paper Model Cars - roadsters Found a nifty site that has paper model cars. Cool ones too! One set is available to the US, but the set w/Roadsters (2nd set) claims to be only for Japan Mkt :-( Gotta find a way around that!!!) Check it out anyway - PDF of Abarth & Mini available for free. http://www.imagica.co.jp/VW/kami/index2.html The Digital Paper Art (AOL link - may or may not work) Laurie :-) 70 SPL311 69 SRL311 Chandler, AZ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 14:04:33 2000 From: Robert.Long@CSDInc.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 14:05:41 -0600 Subject: Tranny Update Dearest List, This is kind of long, so I won't be offended if you delete it... I'm happy to report that my 67.5 1600 is back on the road!!! About 2 months ago my 4 speed bit the dust. I knew it was coming, cause it was grinding when I'd shift to 3rd. At first I was going to try to rebuild the tranny myself, but after taking off the front cover, I chickened out, and instead I took it to a local shop. Well, 4 weeks and $600 later, it had been rebuilt. Now I could've saved some money, if I were DatsunMike or Born-Again-Grease-Monkey-From-Beyond, but it was over my head. Other things I got done: - New clutch kit (Plate, Disk, and Bearing) - Had the driveshaft balanced - Cleaned up the engine bay - Cleaned up the transmission tunnel - Tightened up the steering, drained and refilled the steering box - Greased the zillion and 1 zerks - Custom fitted some new plug wires - Added a ground strap from the starter to the frame And to top it all off, a shiny new custom gear shift knob from Phil Hall of SEROC fame (It glows) Was luck on my side or what??? I took the old throwout bearing to a local machine shop to get the old one off, and the new one pressed on. Well, the new bearing was too big for the collar, it slid right over it. I was bummed, Ross had never sent me the wrong part. Since he was out of town, I went down to the local Nissan dealer (probably for the last time), and had them order me the "correct" bearing, even paid them an extra $15 to get it the next day. So, I go down to pick it up, and they ordered the wrong part, they ordered a collar instead of the bearing. Turns out that this collar fit the bearing that Ross had sent me, I had the wrong collar and bearing on all along. Ross had sent the correct bearing and the Nissan dealer had accidentilly got me the correct collar. Unbelieavable! Enjoying the ride again...Robert - 67.5 1600 - Abq From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 14:07:45 2000 From: Robert.Long@CSDInc.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 14:09:01 -0600 Subject: A couple of questions Hey, Out of curiosity, what Brand of Points, Distributor Cap, and Rotor is everyone using? I was lubing the zerks the other day, and a few seemed stuck, I couldn't get the grease to go in?? Thanks for the input...Robert - 67.5 1600 - Abq From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 14:27:14 2000 From: SPL311RDST@aol.com To: Robert.Long@CSDInc.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 16:26:36 EDT Subject: Re: A couple of questions - tune up bits In a message dated 10/19/00 1:08:53 PM US Mountain Standard Time, Robert.Long@CSDInc.com writes: > Out of curiosity, what Brand of Points, Distributor Cap, and Rotor is > everyone using? The good stuff from NAPA of course ! (Echlin) Brass contacts in the cap - much better material than some of the cheapies out there. Points have a better spring/arm in them too. Not gonna get misaligned as easy as others. (not biased because of my ex-NAPA counter person status either) Laurie :-) 70 SPL311 69 SRL311 Chandler, AZ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 14:41:23 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "sochoux" , Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 16:36:02 -0400 Subject: Re: 67.5 1600 FS $1000 b/o If you get it restored in Mexico the shop will throw in a years supply of Burritos or Tacos for free! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: sochoux To: Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 12:43 PM Subject: 67.5 1600 FS $1000 b/o > Found this on Yahoo! > > The car is in Mexico! > > http://classifieds.yahoo.com/display/automobiles?cid=automobiles-0970450463- 950730&cc=automobiles > > > Stephan > '69 2000 BADROC > > __________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. > http://im.yahoo.com/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 14:48:09 2000 From: noji To: Robert.Long@CSDInc.com Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 14:03:29 -0700 Subject: Re: A couple of questions Robert, Beware of thinking that because the grease will not go in that the zerks are at fault. A PO (of course it was the PO) let the upper A arm go long enough that it was about 1/2 worn away. Grease would not go in and I blamed it on a bad zerk. Took the A arm apart and was very distressed to see the condition. I keep that piece as a reminder to not let things go too long when they don't seem correct (Fred, that's not counting the air cleaner). Dana > I was lubing the zerks the other day, and a few seemed stuck, I couldn't get > the grease > to go in?? > > Thanks for the input...Robert - 67.5 1600 - Abq -- Dana Nojima, Ph.D. Department of Urology VA Medical Center - 112F 4150 Clement Street San Francisco, CA 94121 phone: (415) 221-4810 x 2031 fax: (415) 750-6639 noji-1@pacbell.net From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 15:00:59 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 16:55:44 -0400 Subject: Re: A couple of questions Rob, I try to use OEM stuff but now I have an electronic ignition and only use the rotor and cap. FWIW, Honda used the same distributor and you can always get them from a Honda dealer too. Zerks go bad and have to be replaced. BTW, Eastwood sells the caps for the Zerks. I have been using them for about 15 years and they keep the zerks nice and free from dirt and rust. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 4:09 PM Subject: A couple of questions > Hey, > > Out of curiosity, what Brand of Points, Distributor Cap, and Rotor is > everyone using? > > I was lubing the zerks the other day, and a few seemed stuck, I couldn't get > the grease > to go in?? > > Thanks for the input...Robert - 67.5 1600 - Abq From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 15:06:36 2000 From: "Mike Kerr" To: , Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 14:02:23 -0700 Subject: Re: New Vendor...? i'm sure Dave you be glad to set somthing up Mike Kerr Roadster Restoration PH# 530-644-6777 Fax # 530-644-7252 Web page WWW.innercite.com/~wolfgang ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 2:56 PM Subject: Re: New Vendor...? > In a message dated 10/18/00 1:24:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > mikekerr@innercite.com writes: > > << Dave baker is the guy up in orville , he had worked with me in the past > and has moved back into the northren CA area >> > > > Any ideas about being a stopover for the Shasta Caravaners next year? I am > sure that there will be interest in this new shop. > > Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 15:30:31 2000 From: noji To: Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 14:46:12 -0700 Subject: Re: 67.5 1600 FS $1000 b/o Has anybody done a tuck-n-roll on a roadster? Dana datsunmike wrote: > > If you get it restored in Mexico the shop will throw in a years supply of > Burritos or Tacos for free! > > Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: sochoux > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 12:43 PM > Subject: 67.5 1600 FS $1000 b/o > > > Found this on Yahoo! > > > > The car is in Mexico! > > > > > http://classifieds.yahoo.com/display/automobiles?cid=automobiles-0970450463- > 950730&cc=automobiles > > > > > > Stephan > > '69 2000 BADROC > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. > > http://im.yahoo.com/ -- Dana Nojima, Ph.D. Department of Urology VA Medical Center - 112F 4150 Clement Street San Francisco, CA 94121 phone: (415) 221-4810 x 2031 fax: (415) 750-6639 noji-1@pacbell.net From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 15:56:22 2000 From: "Kyle Hagemann" To: , Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 14:50:27 -0700 Subject: Re: Tranny Update > Dearest List, > > This is kind of long, so I won't be offended if you delete it... What if I SNIP it? :-P > Well, 4 weeks and $600 later, it had been rebuilt. Now I could've saved some > money, if I were DatsunMike or Born-Again-Grease-Monkey-From-Beyond, but it was > over my head. Robert, you have *NO* idea of the fun you missed out on(:-D Kyle "still have a workbench covered in trans parts" Hagemann -or- Kyle "still have a krunchy second gear synchro, but it was good for about a day" Hagemann -or- Kyle "Born-Again-Grease-Monkey-From-Beyond" Hagemann :-) From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 16:04:47 2000 From: Christopher Coker To: Datsun Roadster Mailing List Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 18:04:11 -0400 Subject: Looking for a Datsun pickup rear end Greetings Roadster Fans, A fellow roadster racer is looking for an old Datsun Pickup axle. I believe Bill lives in the Midwest. You may email me directly, or you can email Bill at howephoto@skyenet.net Regards, Chris Coker Royal Oak, MI '69 1600 SPL311-24529 Street Car '66 1600 G Production Race Car > > You might be able to help me ....... I'm searching for the rearend out of a > early 70's - late 60's Datsun pickup. Any idea where one might be had. > > Bill Howe From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 16:23:09 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: noji@snowman.med.umn.edu Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 15:22:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: 67.5 1600 FS $1000 b/o Hmm Tuck-n-roll ehh... that might go pretty well with my new headlights.... Daniel 69 2000 SF CA > Has anybody done a tuck-n-roll on a roadster? > > Dana > > datsunmike wrote: > > > > If you get it restored in Mexico the shop will throw in a years supply of > > Burritos or Tacos for free! > > > > Mike > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: sochoux > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 12:43 PM > > Subject: 67.5 1600 FS $1000 b/o > > > > > Found this on Yahoo! > > > > > > The car is in Mexico! > > > > > > > > http://classifieds.yahoo.com/display/automobiles?cid=automobiles-0970450463- > > 950730&cc=automobiles > > > > > > > > > Stephan > > > '69 2000 BADROC > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. > > > http://im.yahoo.com/ > > -- > Dana Nojima, Ph.D. > Department of Urology > VA Medical Center - 112F > 4150 Clement Street > San Francisco, CA 94121 > > phone: (415) 221-4810 x 2031 > fax: (415) 750-6639 > noji-1@pacbell.net > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 16:31:46 2000 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: , Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 18:30:13 -0400 Subject: Re: Tranny Update Robert, Glad to hear you found that last one! Paul OROC -----Original Message----- From: Robert.Long@CSDInc.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thursday, October 19, 2000 4:11 PM Subject: Tranny Update >- Greased the zillion and 1 zerks ..Robert - 67.5 1600 - Abq > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 16:37:56 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "noji" , Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 18:32:49 -0400 Subject: Re: 67.5 1600 FS $1000 b/o Ask Calspeed, I'm sure he's done one!!!! ----- Original Message ----- > Has anybody done a tuck-n-roll on a roadster? From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 16:51:34 2000 From: "Kyle Hagemann" To: "Daniel Neuman" , Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 15:50:11 -0700 Subject: Re: 67.5 1600 FS $1000 b/o > Hmm Tuck-n-roll ehh... that might go pretty well with my new headlights.... > > Daniel 69 2000 > SF CA Hmmm......... headlights? You puttin them Cad' spears on the FRONT?!?!?! Kyle boring stock lights, boring 240Z seats, pretty cool $5 Pep Boys shift knob From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 17:00:40 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net>, , Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 18:55:38 -0400 Subject: Re: Tranny Update I recently puchased an air powered grease gun for the zillion and 1 zerks. I sleep better at night now! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul <9laser3@bright.net> To: ; Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 6:30 PM Subject: Re: Tranny Update > Robert, > > Glad to hear you found that last one! > > Paul > OROC > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert.Long@CSDInc.com > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Date: Thursday, October 19, 2000 4:11 PM > Subject: Tranny Update > > > >- Greased the zillion and 1 zerks > ..Robert - 67.5 1600 - Abq > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 17:07:48 2000 From: "Stephen McCartney" To: slotparts@jps.net Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 23:07:22 GMT Subject: Re: checklist responses appreciated Yep! SR311-01113 (gotta love the symmetry in that number, huh?) Right hand drive Solex 2000. why do you ask, two dogs...? >From: "JAS" >Reply-To: "JAS" >To: "Pamela Pepoy" , "Bill Barber" > >CC: "Datsun Roadsters" >Subject: Re: checklist responses appreciated >Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 07:09:54 -0700 > >any one out their own a right hand drive 1600 or 200 > > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 17:33:31 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: kwhcpa@addler.net (Kyle Hagemann) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 16:32:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: 67.5 1600 FS $1000 b/o All right all right I miss-typed..geez YES I MEANT THE TAILLIGHTS!!!! Daniel 69 2000 SF CA > > Hmm Tuck-n-roll ehh... that might go pretty well with my new headlights.... > > > > Daniel 69 2000 > > SF CA > > Hmmm......... headlights? You puttin them Cad' spears on the FRONT?!?!?! > > Kyle > boring stock lights, boring 240Z seats, pretty cool $5 Pep Boys shift knob > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 18:03:27 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Victor Laury" , Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 19:58:16 -0400 Subject: Re: The operation was a success I am gradually being convinced to buy one of those tiny gear reduction starters. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Victor Laury To: Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 1:53 AM Subject: The operation was a success > It seems that the recent "starter" thread was a curse and a cue for my > starter to give up. I even picked up a starter from Roman to have rebuilt > for his 70 1600 restore project. I stopped it off at the rebuilders and the > very next day, my starter died. So, now his rebuilt is in my car and my old > one goes to the shop tomorrow. Then it will take it's place in Roman's car. > Musical starters eh? > > This time I found that the starter would fit through the infamous gap > between the frame and the body. When I think back on the last time I changed > this dam thing and I took the steering column out, I'm embarrassed. I still > had to remove the carbs and heat shield to get that top bolt. > > I've added a heat shield wrap and a heavy ground strap from the lower bolt > to the frame. Hopefully, these two additions will give me a starter that > lasts longer than three years. > > Victor > 70 SRL 31113136 > Los Angeles > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=123073 > SoCalROC http://www.ameri-eagle.com/datsun/ > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 18:16:12 2000 From: PLETCH5@aol.com To: dneuman@stars.sfsu.edu, kwhcpa@addler.net Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 20:15:01 EDT Subject: Re: 67.5 1600 FS $1000 b/o Haven't you caught up on your sleep after the bachelor party you went to? Ken DATSTER From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 18:42:02 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: datsunmike@nyc.rr.com, noji@snowman.med.umn.edu, Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 20:40:16 EDT Subject: Re: 67.5 1600 FS $1000 b/o << Has anybody done a tuck-n-roll on a roadster?>> << Ask Calspeed, I'm sure he's done one!!!! >> Oh... I am sorry but I would need to refer you to the Katman. He would know that stuff better than me. ;>) Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 18:47:01 2000 From: Russell Southwell To: Bill Barber Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 19:41:15 -0700 Subject: Re: checklist responses appreciated No fair I have a running 70 1600, but I should qualify for NOROC also, owning 4 non running 69 2000's . one sat in a barn in western Kansas for 16 years, now sits behiind a barn in central Illinois. One sat in the sun in Arizona, no eng. one rusted out body, good eng from Iindiana, and one white 69 red int, with 671/2 left front fender and 1600 eng.. Russ Southwell 70 1600 , 4 dead roadsters. Bill Barber wrote: > Just out of curiousity, I would like those of you who now have cars that do > not run to email me with the model and how long your car has been > "hibernating" or "chillin'" or "whatever you mean by not running". > > To qualify as a NOROC member, you must meet the following qualifications: > > 1. You cannot own one (1) operating roadster. > 2. You dream often about riding around in your non-op roadster. > 3. You lurk on email lists in the off chance that someone may describe > driving one. > 4. You register and attend meets to at least get a t-shirt to disguise > yourself at later meets.(Everyone assumes your car ran at the other meet.) > > This is all in good fun, of course - all NOROC members will remain anonymous > unless they decide to step forward. I am disguising my email as we speak, > and will be the guy at Doheny with a paper bag over his head 'cause he drove > up in a Subaru or Daewoo. > > Apologize for the bandwidth..... > My donation is going out this week.... > > Bill Barber > SRL311-09363 (approaching 13 years, with 40k on the speedo) From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 18:58:21 2000 From: "Dave Stoll" To: "Douglas E Noble" , Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 20:50:31 -0700 Subject: Re: Recommendations on Auto Transport Firms I bought a roadster in Colorado over the internet and had it delivered to Bangor Maine last spring for $1200 at a rate of $0.50/mile by Brewer's Carriers out of Springfield, Mo. They were good to deal with. I even sent them the check to pay for the car when it was picked up. They use a single level carrier trailer and are anxious to please. Their number is 417-859-2887 dave stoll --- ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas E Noble To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 11:12 AM Subject: Recommendations on Auto Transport Firms > To the List, > > An off topic item. > > Does anyone on the list have experience and/or with specific auto > transport firms? I'm buying my sister's truck and need to get it home > (Colorado Springs, CO to Vienna, VA). Given ski season airfares, it > seems easier/less costly to hire someone. We can do door-to-door or > terminal-to-terminal, and are flexible about the specific date. So > far, the quotes I have received are between $900 - $1000. > > Just looking for some input, please respond directly to me. > > Thanks in advance. > > Doug Noble > Vienna, Virginia > SPL311-25006 > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 20:32:41 2000 From: Mike Harper To: datsunmike , Paul <9laser3@bright.net>, Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 19:31:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Tranny Update Where did you buy your air powered grease gun. I've been considering one. Would like to go to school on you. Mike Harper '66 1600 Charleston SC --- datsunmike wrote: > I recently puchased an air powered grease gun for > the zillion and 1 zerks. I > sleep better at night now! > > Mike > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Paul <9laser3@bright.net> > To: ; > > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 6:30 PM > Subject: Re: Tranny Update > > > > Robert, > > > > Glad to hear you found that last one! > > > > Paul > > OROC > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Robert.Long@CSDInc.com > > > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > > Date: Thursday, October 19, 2000 4:11 PM > > Subject: Tranny Update > > > > > > >- Greased the zillion and 1 zerks > > ..Robert - 67.5 1600 - Abq > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 20:35:15 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 19:34:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: tiny gear reduction starters?? Hello All, Is anybody on the list using a gear reduction starter?? Some posted that they are 'tiny'. Are they in fact much smaller than the stock (U-20) starter?? Think that I am going to need a new starter soon and I am looking at alternatives. Daniel 69 2000 SF CA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 20:40:01 2000 From: "roadster" To: , Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 19:39:43 -0700 Subject: Re: Paper Model Cars - roadsters Laurie, I've got a print of the roadster sitting somewhere. But... it isn't the original. I copied the GIF off a Japanese webpage, then retouched it in photoshop. Once I find it I'll send a copy to you. Unless someone posts an original PDF (that way no one sics a lawyer on me). Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 12:49 PM Subject: Paper Model Cars - roadsters > Found a nifty site that has paper model cars. Cool ones too! > One set is available to the US, but the set w/Roadsters (2nd set) claims to > be only for Japan Mkt :-( Gotta find a way around that!!!) > > Check it out anyway - PDF of Abarth & Mini available for free. > > http://www.imagica.co.jp/VW/kami/index2.html > > The Digital Paper Art > (AOL link - may or may not work) > > Laurie :-) > 70 SPL311 > 69 SRL311 > Chandler, AZ > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 19 22:46:51 2000 From: "Charles Hubbard" To: "Datsun Roadster Mailing List \(E-mail\)" Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 23:42:44 -0500 Subject: Official TDROC Merchandise List Members: Check out the club logo shirts and caps for sale on the TDROC Web page: http://members.home.net/cehubbard/tdroc/ Charlie Hubbard 1964 SPL310 Flower Mound, TX From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 20 08:01:10 2000 From: "Mitch Planck" To: Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 09:52:56 -0400 Subject: got the roadster running again (not on the road though) I guess I have to think about giving up my membership in the NOROC. ;<) I got the new needles from Keith the other day (Thanks! I've sent you the check for them.) and was excited to install them. I haven't been able to get my beast running recently since I started having timing problems. I put the new needles in and tried starting my car. I played around with the timing a little but it was trying to start before I even touched the distributor. After fiddling with that a bit it did start. It was running very roughly and backfiring out the exhaust on heavy throttle with lots of black exhaust - the timing was still a bit off and the new needles caused the mixture to be way to rich. I let it warm up and started adjusting the carbs. After leaning out the fuel mixture it was a little better, but the idle was still rough. I tried checking the timing with the timing light but the idle was so uneven that the advance kept changing. I could tell that it's around where I want it to be, so that's good enough for now. It starts right up and shuts down properly too, so that's an indication that the timing is pretty close. In trying to find out why the idle is so rough, I checked to see if all the cylinders were firing - it kind of sounded like one was missing. Sure enough, #2 was missing occassionally. It would firing a few times, then miss a few times. I checked the cables and plug and the cables for #2 wasn't pushed in as far as it could go on the distributor. That helped a bit but it's still not completely fixed. I'll didn't have a chance to go any further, but I think I'll replaced the plugs, check the distributor gap, finally get the Unisyn to balance the carbs (they're off again with the new needles in) and see how that works. I'd like to take her out on another ride before I have to wedge it into the back of the garage so I can fit both our other cars in for winter weather protection. Mitch Planck '69 1600 Systems Engineer mitch@ias.net IAS.NET - Internet Applications and Solutions, Inc. "Effective Internet Solutions Since 1995" 1145 Broadway Ann Arbor, MI 48105 Phone: 1-800-IASNET 1 (427-6381) Local: (734) 668-8752 FAX: (734) 668-7274 Web: http://IAS.NET From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 20 08:09:26 2000 From: "Mitch Planck" To: Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 10:02:01 -0400 Subject: books? I ran across this website today - lots of books about auto engineering, some may be interesting. http://www.sae.org Mitch Planck '69 1600 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 20 08:33:21 2000 From: "Mike Faggart" To: "west coast list" , Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 10:28:11 -0400 Subject: Road Atlanta weekend Hope everyone has a nice roadster weekend and I look forward to the first meeting of SEROC at Road Atlanta, BTW, there will be some representing NOROC there as well. Mike Faggart SEROC, NOROC temporary member 68 2L From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 20 08:49:02 2000 From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, CalSpeed@aol.com Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 07:36:26 -0700 Subject: Re[2]: 67.5 1600 FS $1000 b/o No, I can't do it. Although I did use tuck-n-roll material on Blondie when I made my own side panels and the package shelf, I didn't stuff the pleats so it lays flat. I had bought the material many years ago for a '57 Chevy coupe I owned, and still had left-overs. Interesting idea to do a roadster but better left to professionals. Brian Cano had his roadster interior done in leather and it was gorgeous, much nicer than vinyl tuck-n-roll. Fred - So.SF '70 1600 Blondie '66 2L Loosie _________________________Reply Separator _________________________ >Subject: Re: 67.5 1600 FS $1000 b/o >Author: CalSpeed@aol.com >Date: 10/19/2000 8:40 PM > ><< Has anybody done a tuck-n-roll on a roadster?>> > ><< Ask Calspeed, I'm sure he's done one!!!! >> > >Oh... I am sorry but I would need to refer you to the Katman. He would know >that stuff better than me. ;>) > >Calspeed > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 20 08:52:04 2000 From: Marc Tyler To: "noji" Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 09:58:15 -0500 Subject: Re: 67.5 1600 FS $1000 b/o noji wrote >Has anybody done a tuck-n-roll on a roadster? > >Dana I know a couple people have rolled them, I don't know about the tuck part ;-) Marc T. From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 20 09:14:08 2000 From: Mark Dent To: Marc Tyler , "noji" Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 11:10:23 -0400 Subject: Re: 67.5 1600 FS $1000 b/o At 09:58 AM 10/20/00 -0500, Marc Tyler wrote: >noji wrote > > >Has anybody done a tuck-n-roll on a roadster? > > > >Dana > I know a couple people have rolled them, I don't know about the tuck >part ;-) > >Marc T. I rolled a Z once and yes I did "tuck" my head between my knees. I do recall it took a lot of effort to get that thing over and boy did it make noise. I was late for something.. now I just show up late. I don't want to do THAT again! Mark Baltimore 1968 1600 1967 2000 http://www.datsunroadsters.com http://www.roadster.org From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 20 09:40:26 2000 From: HIGHKIX4@aol.com To: , , Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 11:39:15 EDT Subject: Re: Recommendations on Auto Transport Firms I drove a 240Z from California to the East Coast for a friend of mine, since I happened to be flown out there for business, I took some leave and drove back. I charged for nothing except gas, cheap motels, and road food, and an oil and filter change after first 1000miles (rebuilt engine). Cost was $600. So, if someone is doing this for money, and not fun, I would say 1000$ is a very good price. And the Z car got about 25mpg, so if it was on a car carrier, fuel alone would be a lot more of the total. Some of the cool extras the owner got when I did it included a picture of his car parked by the welcome signs on entering each state line. Best regards, Jim Chesapeake Va 67 pushrod 2L/5spd 72 510 wagon From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 20 13:56:34 2000 From: tosborn To: Roadster List Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 15:15:41 -0700 Subject: Re: Starter / Compression Michael, Another [perhaps remote] possibility is a broken or badly worn tooth on the ring-gear (flywheel). Most of the time engine inertia will allow a jump over one bad tooth, but if its on the end of a compression stroke the engine slows down and you get a pinion to ring gear clash. Brings things to a pretty abrupt halt, only solutions is to replace the flywheel. BTW this problem is easy to inspect on the car, all you need to do is remove the starter (5 minutes tops), scoot into the left wheelwell, stick your head between the frame and the body so you can see the ring gear teeth and have someone slow move the car (best done with the car in 5th gear, slowly rolling, match scoot speed to vehicle motion) so you can inspect all the teeth. Maybe marking a tooth with paint and using a mirror would be better. Let's hope this is not the problem. Todd "former clutch rider" Osborn - please don't tell Mark. 68 2L DATSFUN San Jose, CA CalSpeed@aol.com wrote: > > Hello, > > For the past few years my starter has been acting strange. Sometimes it crnaks nice but then it started to stall when the motor has been driven for awhile and it got alittle hot. One of the things that it has done was to stall out temporarily while cranking. It sounded like it was cranking three cylinders and then the fourth it would stall or hesitate until it passed over that cylinder. > > Any ideas? > > > > Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 20 15:05:04 2000 From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com To: tosborn , Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 14:04:22 -0700 Subject: Re: Starter / Compression The ring gear is replaceable (unless the engine is different from every automotive engine I've ever seen, including other Nissan engines). If it is a bad ring gear, pull engine/tranny, remove flywheel assembly, heat ring gear to expand and remove from flywheel. Replace w/new ring gear, also heating to expand and slip over flywheel. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA tosborn wrote: > Michael, > Another [perhaps remote] possibility is a broken or badly worn tooth on > the ring-gear (flywheel). [snip] only solutions is to replace the > flywheel. [snip] > > Todd "former clutch rider" Osborn - please don't tell Mark. > 68 2L DATSFUN > San Jose, CA > > CalSpeed@aol.com wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > For the past few years my starter has been acting strange. Sometimes it > crnaks nice but then it started to stall when the motor has been driven > for awhile and it got alittle hot. One of the things that it has done > was to stall out temporarily while cranking. It sounded like it was > cranking three cylinders and then the fourth it would stall or hesitate > until it passed over that cylinder. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > > > Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 20 15:17:30 2000 From: tosborn To: Roadster List Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 16:36:43 -0700 Subject: Re: right angle breather hose thingy Dan, The 90 deg breather connections you've seen are on my car, they are simply 1/2" copper elbows. The one on the valve cover is epoxied to the stock aluminum nipple (painted silver to match), the other is soldered to the air cleaner breather tube. BTW don't use heater hose between them, use smog hose, blow-by is pretty nasty stuff. I also added a 1/2" copper tee inside the SU air filter housing to route the breather lines properly to the velocity stacks (stock set-up is a molded rubber tee that is often missing). Todd Osborn 68 2L DATSFUN Dan Neuman wrote: > > Hello, > Yes Stephans car has this one on it. But its not exactly what I was > talking about. The one I remember seeing was a honest 90 deg bend. This > one has more of a 45 deg bend. > Daniel 69 2000 > SF CA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 20 15:48:18 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Mike Harper" , "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net>, Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 17:43:10 -0400 Subject: Re: Tranny Update Mike, I bought a Lincoln from Harbor Freight Salvage for I think $30. Definitely worth it. The Power, the Pressure, feels great Pressin that Trigger! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Harper To: datsunmike ; Paul <9laser3@bright.net>; ; Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 10:31 PM Subject: Re: Tranny Update > Where did you buy your air powered grease gun. I've > been considering one. Would like to go to school on > you. > > Mike Harper > '66 1600 > Charleston SC > > --- datsunmike wrote: > > I recently puchased an air powered grease gun for > > the zillion and 1 zerks. I > > sleep better at night now! > > > > Mike > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Paul <9laser3@bright.net> > > To: ; > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 6:30 PM > > Subject: Re: Tranny Update > > > > > > > Robert, > > > > > > Glad to hear you found that last one! > > > > > > Paul > > > OROC > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Robert.Long@CSDInc.com > > > > > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > > > > Date: Thursday, October 19, 2000 4:11 PM > > > Subject: Tranny Update > > > > > > > > > >- Greased the zillion and 1 zerks > > > ..Robert - 67.5 1600 - Abq > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. > http://im.yahoo.com/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 20 15:51:29 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Daniel Neuman" , Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 17:46:26 -0400 Subject: Re: tiny gear reduction starters?? Dan, Seen'em and indeed they're tiny. An easy fit through the frame and header. Probably no problem doin the upper bolt also. Did I say TINY? Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Neuman To: Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 10:34 PM Subject: tiny gear reduction starters?? > Hello All, > Is anybody on the list using a gear reduction starter?? Some posted > that they are 'tiny'. Are they in fact much smaller than the stock (U-20) > starter?? Think that I am going to need a new starter soon and I am > looking at alternatives. > Daniel 69 2000 > SF CA > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 20 18:30:36 2000 From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us To: Roadster List , Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 14:21:59 -0700 Subject: Re[2]: Starter / Compression Todd, Can you draw a diagram of that inspection process? I'm trying to picture how you do that (without busting up laughing). 1) hood open, lay cross-wise over the engine bay and hang over the left fender and insert head into wheelwell with wheel cranked to right. -or- 2) lay on the ground with your head in there and crawl sideways as the car moves. I don't think some of these guys should ask their wives to move the cars while the he's in there. ("Honey, where is your insurance policy?") ;) How about this: * Michael mounts his video camera with a light source, and tapes the action, playing it back later on. Fred - So.SF, CA _______________________ Reply Separator __________________________ >Subject: Re: Starter / Compression >Author: tosborn >Date: 10/18/2000 3:15 PM > >Michael, >Another [perhaps remote] possibility is a broken or badly worn tooth on >the ring-gear (flywheel). Most of the time engine inertia will allow a >jump over one bad tooth, but if its on the end of a compression stroke >the engine slows down and you get a pinion to ring gear clash. Brings >things to a pretty abrupt halt, only solutions is to replace the >flywheel. BTW this problem is easy to inspect on the car, all you need >to do is remove the starter (5 minutes tops), scoot into the left >wheelwell, stick your head between the frame and the body so you can see >the ring gear teeth and have someone slow move the car (best done with >the car in 5th gear, slowly rolling, match scoot speed to vehicle >motion) so you can inspect all the teeth. Maybe marking a tooth with >paint and using a mirror would be better. Let's hope this is not the >problem. > >Todd "former clutch rider" Osborn - please don't tell Mark. >68 2L DATSFUN >San Jose, CA > >CalSpeed@aol.com wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> For the past few years my starter has been acting strange. Sometimes >it crnaks nice but then it started to stall when the motor has been >driven for awhile and it got alittle hot. One of the things that it has >done was to stall out temporarily while cranking. It sounded like it >was cranking three cylinders and then the fourth it would stall or >hesitate until it passed over that cylinder. > >> > Any ideas? >> > >> > Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 20 18:38:28 2000 From: Mike Poorboy To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 17:40:50 -0700 Subject: I blew it up List, A couple of weeks ago I asked the question about the engine on my Forerunner bogging down when I pushed in the clutch. Well I replaced the clutch, throwout bearing and Pilot bearing. The clutch assembly really needed to be changed. The pressure plate had two springs that were out of the housing and the disc was down to rivets. A few of you said it was the thrust bearing causing the problem and you were right as it let go today on the way home from picking up a stroker Roadster engine. I guess 270,000 hard miles was all she had in her. At least it has a new clutch in it. Mike Nowroc From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 20 19:18:55 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 21:13:49 -0400 Subject: Re: A couple of questions Jon, It's a restoration supply house that sells all kinds of interesting stuff. Their site is eastwoodcompany.com Check it out Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: To: datsunmike Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 8:31 PM Subject: Re: A couple of questions > Dumb question, but what and where is Eastwood's?? > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 20 20:09:55 2000 From: Pete Dehmler To: datsunmike , Lehinger , Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 22:06:45 -0400 Subject: Re: Alum. flywheels - Datsun FYI - Tilton still makes the ring gear for the aluminum flywheels that they made. I contacted them this summer and got a part number. They are $100, and can ordered from Tilton distributors (Tilton doesn't sell direct). If anyone is interested, I'll get the part number (it's on my email at work) and publish it to the list. Come to think of it, they may still make the flywheels too. Even if they don't, if someone has a shop willing to make some aluminum flywheels with steel clutch inserts, the ring gear problem would be solved. Pete Dehmler > From: "datsunmike" > Reply-To: "datsunmike" > Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 18:31:35 -0400 > To: "Lehinger" , "Datsun-Roadsters" > > Subject: Re: Alum. flywheels - Datsun > > While aluminum flywheels are great for a race car, they're lousy for a > modified/stock street car. Several years ago I drove a 510 and a Z that had > aluminum flywheels and they shook like crazy as the flywheel was too light > to dampen the engine vibrations. You also needed a lot of revs to start them > from stop, even a modified Z engine. My neighbor had one in his MGB and > ripped it out as soon as he could. > > A lightened steel flywheel is IMHO a much better alternative and cheaper. > > Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Lehinger > To: Datsun-Roadsters > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 7:34 AM > Subject: FW: Alum. flywheels - Datsun > > >> I called Donato yesterday - they are about 1 hr sw of Ft Wayne. Donato >> makes parts for racing vipers - trans ets. Jim races a spridget. Below > is >> what he currently carries. He can give a better price starting at 10 - > any >> interest? I can get hum a stock u20 flywheel. >> Lee Ehinger >> OROC >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jim D [mailto:donato1@netusa1.net] >> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 10:08 PM >> To: Lehinger@fwi.com >> Subject: Re: Alum. flywheels - Datsun >> >> >> Lee, >> I have the spec's on the following for Nissan >> 240sx,300zx,300 zx-turbo, 300 zx non-turbo >> 240, 260 ,280 z 's >> 1200(B110) >> 411, 510, 610, and 710 >> All aluminum flywheels have a 1050 high alloy steel clutch surface, >> all machined and only grade 10 or better hardware. I can get you a >> quote on your flywheel if you can send me a stock to copy and make a >> print. >> The only hang up may be matching up a ring gear, and it's cost >> My best quess would be in the $ 315 to 340 range >> Thanks for your interest >> Jim D >> >> >> >> > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 20 22:52:56 2000 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 00:52:14 EDT Subject: Back in the diff goes Hello all, Put the differential back in by flashlight. Runs quiet AND cool. Turns out Nissan lists about fifteen different spacers, different thicknesses. One small problem. Somewhere along the way the sizes of the spacers got left out of the parts system. So you have fifteen part numbers and no way to tell the one you need. They are trying to sort it out. Rather than wait, I fired up the lathe and made my own. Turns out the spacer needed to be .0025" thicker, about the thickness of a sheet of paper. Now as soon as I get the rest of the air out of the brakes I'll be on my way. keith From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 20 23:14:01 2000 From: "Rob Robinson" To: "Daniel Neuman" , Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 01:10:41 -0400 Subject: RE: tiny gear reduction starters?? I've been using a gear reduction starter (intended for a '92 Nissan forklift) for about 5 or 6 years now with no problems whatsoever. It's about half the size and weight of a standard U20 starter. Easy to r&r, lots of torque even with my lawn tractor battery. Yes, that's right, I use a lawn tractor battery in my 2000. Cheap and LIGHT, and it hasn't failed me since installation 5 or 6 years ago, even in single-digit temperatures. Rob Robinson CSP 67 2000 Roanoke, VA -----Original Message----- From: owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Daniel Neuman Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 10:35 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: tiny gear reduction starters?? Hello All, Is anybody on the list using a gear reduction starter?? Some posted that they are 'tiny'. Are they in fact much smaller than the stock (U-20) starter?? Think that I am going to need a new starter soon and I am looking at alternatives. Daniel 69 2000 SF CA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 20 23:25:08 2000 From: "Rob Robinson" To: "The Belgian Roadster" , Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 01:21:55 -0400 Subject: RE: Exhaust I don't know about any pre-bent exhaust systems for the Roadster, but here's what I'm running: Header from Fairlady Products, 8" x 2.25" ID flexpipe, 2.25" pipe, 2.25" Dynomax "UltraFlo" muffler, 2.25" Dynomax glasspack. I highly recommend the header from Fairlady Products. It has a nice thick flange and fits perfectly. The flexpipe is similar to what you might find on a FWD car, and is needed in my case to prevent pipe breakage since the 2.25" pipe is an extremely tight fit in the frame. The UltraFlo muffer is really just a fancy glasspack with an oval case - but it does reduce the sound a bit more. My car's exhaust noise is about as loud as its intake noise, which is loud but not loud enough to be a "cop magnet". Nice smooth sound with none of the "BBs in a mayonaise jar" sound common with turbo mufflers. Rob Robinson CSP 67 2000 Roanoke, VA -----Original Message----- From: owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of The Belgian Roadster Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 6:49 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Exhaust Hi List, It seems that the list is poor on exhaust informations. I only received 2 answers. One sad " no more produced" and the other was "I have the last muffler" Are all american roadsters driven without exhaust? There must be some exhausts on the aftermarket that are similar to our roadster which can be adapted by some welding job! Chris-The Belgian Roadster From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 21 02:34:51 2000 From: shifty To: roadsters Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 01:30:23 -0700 Subject: OT a near-virgin in off-white http://www.hcpresearch.com/stories/white.html .....Just then, the Big Red Light went OUT! And the Maestro thought- "Uh, oh. I bet she's IS Haunted!" Don't laugh. Haunted 356's happen. Quite often in fact- especially those 356's owned for loooooooong periods of time by Members of the Female Persuasion. Like this one had been. From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 21 08:24:18 2000 From: "The Blair's" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 07:27:03 -0700 Subject: 1500 Radiator Hoses I was having a problem finding molded radiator hoses for my 1500. I Went to my local Nissan dealer and showed him the lower hose. He came back with a real long hose from the stockroom. The bends were correct for the bottom hose so I bought it. After getting it home, I cut it to length and installed it. Fit was almost perfect. Better yet, the left over piece had the correct angle and I was able to use it for the top hose. The Nissan part number is 21503-10W00. I believe it's actually for a Nissan truck. Joe Blair 1964 SPL 310 #2775D jblair@rcsis.com 916-791-5009 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 21 09:04:53 2000 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 11:04:09 EDT Subject: The Roadster Ranch beer fund thanks all of you. Hello all, Received the last of the six checks for the six pairs of ADQ needles I sent out. Thanks to all of you. The shop fridge is restocked and as always any roadsterites are welcome to come by if you are in Las Vegas. keith From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 21 18:04:36 2000 From: Tomet9@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 14:09:12 EDT Subject: wheel color Hi list guys, I need your opinion guys, Iv'e got a red roadster with black interior and I can't stand the wheels that came w/it. Iv'e got a set of alloys thats been sitting around for some time that I'm thinking of mounting for now. They are just like the ones on Mike Ungers red fairlady 8 spoke w/large center hub, kinda resemble minilites. These do have a polished lip but the short spokes are a rough finish. I thought about painting them red but that might be over kill. Black doesn't show the spokes against the dark background. Gold might be nice but may clash w/chrome. Silver would look well like silver paint.(tacky) What about a beige or tan color? Am I really going off the deep end? or should I just get them polished all together for a brushed alum finish? Please, I need your help, Iv'e got to do something here soon. Is tan really that bad? Looking forward to your 2cents worth. Tom 69/2.0 Red/Blk From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 21 18:32:15 2000 From: DATSFUN To: Roadster List Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 13:15:47 -0700 Subject: Re: Starter / Compression (Flywheel / Ring gear) Good call Gary, the ring gear is replaceable; Nissan part# 12312-61000, don't know if they are still available, but I'd guess they are. A decent used flywheel may be cheaper than a new ring gear, plus if this is the problem it gives CalSpeed the chance to lighten his flywheel. BTW removing the ring gear seems simple enough, heating with a torch - no worry of damage its trashed already. But, how hot do you need to get the new ring gear to install, can you do it in an oven at say 450 F, with the flywheel at ambient? Less risk of damaging the ring gear with uniform oven heat (just tell your wife you're making cookies). Todd Osborn 68 2L x 2 San Jose, CA svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com wrote: > > The ring gear is replaceable (unless the engine is different from every automotive engine > I've ever seen, including other Nissan engines). If it is a bad ring gear, pull > engine/tranny, remove flywheel assembly, heat ring gear to expand and remove from > flywheel. Replace w/new ring gear, also heating to expand and slip over flywheel. > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 21 19:33:05 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: Tomet9@aol.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 21:32:38 EDT Subject: Re: wheel color Tom, I have never been one to hold back on my opinion, so here goes. I think that you were on the right track with silver, but I would go a darker shade - argent or pewter color. All polished or red is overkill, black disappears, charcoal looks good, tan or beige - well, that is not for me. Gold is another option - it looks good on Red cars. My choice would still be the argent or pewter color. Sid >From: Tomet9@aol.com >Reply-To: Tomet9@aol.com >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >CC: Tomet9@aol.com >Subject: wheel color >Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 14:09:12 EDT > >Hi list guys, > > I need your opinion guys, Iv'e got a red roadster with black interior >and >I can't stand the wheels that came w/it. Iv'e got a set of alloys thats >been >sitting around for some time that I'm thinking of mounting for now. They >are >just like the ones on Mike Ungers red fairlady 8 spoke w/large center hub, >kinda resemble minilites. These do have a polished lip but the short spokes >are a rough finish. I thought about painting them red but that might be >over >kill. Black doesn't show the spokes against the dark background. Gold might >be nice but may clash w/chrome. Silver would look well like silver >paint.(tacky) What about a beige or tan color? Am I really going off the >deep end? or should I just get them polished all together for a brushed >alum >finish? > Please, I need your help, Iv'e got to do something here soon. Is tan >really that bad? Looking forward to your 2cents worth. > > Tom 69/2.0 Red/Blk _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 21 20:16:49 2000 From: "James Moore" To: "JAS" , "Pamela Pepoy" , Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 22:22:41 -0400 Subject: Re: checklist responses appreciated I own one. A 1969 Japanese spec 2000 Fairlady with Solexes, 7 qt, aluminum oil pan and outside mirrors on the fenders. Jim Moore bouncing back between MD and NY at the moment ----- Original Message ----- From: "JAS" To: "Pamela Pepoy" ; "Bill Barber" Cc: "Datsun Roadsters" Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 10:09 AM Subject: Re: checklist responses appreciated > > any one out their own a right hand drive 1600 or 200 > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 21 20:45:07 2000 From: "steve car" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 02:44:28 GMT Subject: Backfire problem I was out today and all of a sudden my 69 1600 started backfiring like crazy when I gave it gas. This happens during acceleration and a constant medium speed. It ran good at idle and low speeds though. One thing I noticed was that my tube with the screw in it had popped off. But it did not solve the problem when I put a new one in. Timing is ok, fuel level in carbs is ok, vacuum advance mechanism moves when I suck on it. Points, plugs ok. Choke is not stuck. I tried looking for manifold leaks with no luck. Maybe I am doing it wrong though. I sprayed some carb cleaner at all gaskets and throttle area without noticing any stumbling. This was done at idle. I am out of ideas. Does anybody have any suggestions? How do you determine for sure if it is fuel or ignition? Thanks, Steve _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 21 20:46:40 2000 From: R Haug To: DATSFUN , Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 19:45:54 -0700 Subject: Re: Starter / Compression (Flywheel / Ring gear) R Haug wrote: > DATSFUN wrote: > > > removing the ring gear seems simple enough, heating with a torch - no > > worry of damage its trashed already. > > It is possible to turn the ring gear over and use the other side sometimes. You can take a > hammer and punch and drive the ring gear off. > > > But, how hot do you need to get the new ring gear to install, can you do it in an oven at say > > 450 > > I have done this. I leave the flywheel out side in a cool place like the garage. I get it > ready to go with the ring gear side up. :-) > > Then I put the new ring gear in the oven. Bake for 10 or 15 minutes. > Grab it with some pliers or oven mitts and run to the garage. It sould slip on with no > trouble. Just let it cool off. I have done it a few times and worked fine for me. I got this > tip from Martha S. Its a good thing. ;^) > Bob From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 21 22:58:32 2000 From: "steve car" To: steve_car@hotmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 04:57:52 GMT Subject: Re: Backfire problem A couple more things: It seems to be backfiring at the carbs most of the time verses at the exhaust pipe. But I am not sure it is actually the carbs but it seems like it. Also, it doesn't run quite right when I give it some gas and before it starts backfiring. I just noticed that I didn't mention that the tube with the screw is at the intake manifold that used to go to the smog stuff. I already have the nonemission distributer installed. Thanks again, Steve >From: "steve car" >Reply-To: "steve car" >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Backfire problem >Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 02:44:28 GMT > >I was out today and all of a sudden my 69 1600 started backfiring like >crazy >when I gave it gas. This happens during acceleration and a constant medium >speed. It ran good at idle and low speeds though. One thing I noticed was >that my tube with the screw in it had popped off. But it did not solve the >problem when I put a new one in. > >Timing is ok, fuel level in carbs is ok, vacuum advance mechanism moves >when >I suck on it. Points, plugs ok. Choke is not stuck. I tried looking for >manifold leaks with no luck. Maybe I am doing it wrong though. I sprayed >some carb cleaner at all gaskets and throttle area without noticing any >stumbling. This was done at idle. > >I am out of ideas. Does anybody have any suggestions? How do you determine >for sure if it is fuel or ignition? > >Thanks, >Steve >_________________________________________________________________________ > > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 22 12:34:19 2000 From: "Richard Bunnell" To: "Stephanie Bruce" Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 14:33:07 -0400 Subject: Fw: USS COLE (OT) > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: USS COLE > > Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 22:25:26 -0700 > > > Subject: USS COLE > > > > > > > > I just got an e-mail from a good friend of mine who flys SH-60B's off > > > >the > > > >USS Hawes. I thought you might like to read it. > > > > > > > > "It wasn't until a few days ago though, that we started doing > > > >something that > > > >I feel may be the first thing I've seen in my short Naval career that > > > >has > > > >truly made a difference. Right now we're supporting the USS COLE and > > > >her > > > >crew in Aden. When the attack occurred we were a day away. Just by > > > >luck we > > > >happened to be on our way out of the Gulf and headed towards the Suez > > > >and > > > >could get here in a relatively short amount of time. I know what you > > > >all > > > >have seen on CNN, because we have seen it too. I just want you all to > > > >know > > > >that what you see doesn't even scratch the surface. I'm not going to > > > >get > > > >into it for obvious reasons. But I will tell you that right now there > > > >are > > > >250+ sailors just a few miles away living in hell on Earth. I'm > > > >sitting in > > > >a nice air conditioned state room, they're sleeping out on the decks > > > >at > > > >night. You can't even imagine the conditions they're living in, and > > > >yet they > > > >are still fighting 24 hours a day to save their ship and free the > > > >bodies of > > > >those still trapped and send them home. As bad as it is, they're > > > >doing an > > > >incredible job. The very fact that these people are still functioning > > > >is > > > >beyond my comprehension. Whatever you imagine as the worst, multiply > > > >it by > > > >ten and you might get there. Today I was tasked to photo rig the ship > > > >and > > > >surrounding area. It looked so much worse than I had imagined, > > > >unbelievable > > > >really, with debris and disarray everywhere, the ship listing, the > > > >hole in > > > >her side. I wish I had the power to relay to you all what I have > > > >seen, but > > > >words just won't do it. I do want to tell you the first thing that > > > >jumped > > > >out at me - the Stars and Stripes flying. I can't tell you how that > > > >made me > > > >feel...even in this God forsaken hell hole our flag was more beautiful > > > >than > > > >words can describe. Then I started to notice the mass of activity > > > >going on > > > >below, scores of people working non-stop in 90 plus degree weather to > > > >save > > > >this ship. They're doing it with almost no > > > > electrical power and they're sleeping (when they can sleep) outside > > > >on the > > > >decks because they can't stand the smell or the heat or the darkness > > > >inside. > > > >They only want to eat what we bring them because they're all scared of > > > >eating > > > >something brought by the local vendors. Even with all that, the USS > > > >COLE and > > > >her crew is sending a message guys, and it's that even acts of > > > >cowardice and > > > >hate can do nothing to the spirit and pride of the United States. I > > > >have > > > >never been so proud of what I do, or of the men and women that I serve > > > >with > > > >as I was today. There are sixteen confirmed dead sailors who put it > > > >on the > > > >line for all of us, and some of them are still trapped here. Please > > > >take a > > > >minute to pray for their families and say a word of thanks for their > > > >sacrifice - one made so that we can > > > >live the lives that we do. All of you that serve with me, thank you. > > > >All of you that have loved ones that serve, thank you." > > > > > > > >Please feel free to pass this on to those you think will appreciate > > > > it. > > > > > > > > LT Landry" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 22 12:47:39 2000 From: "Dave Stoll" To: "steve car" , Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 14:39:56 -0700 Subject: Re: Backfire problem backfire thru the carbs maybe a sticking intake valve dave stoll ----- Original Message ----- From: steve car To: ; Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 9:57 PM Subject: Re: Backfire problem > A couple more things: It seems to be backfiring at the carbs most of the > time verses at the exhaust pipe. But I am not sure it is actually the carbs > but it seems like it. > Also, it doesn't run quite right when I give it some gas and before it > starts backfiring. > I just noticed that I didn't mention that the tube with the screw is at the > intake manifold that used to go to the smog stuff. I already have the > nonemission distributer installed. > Thanks again, > Steve > > > >From: "steve car" > >Reply-To: "steve car" > >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > >Subject: Backfire problem > >Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 02:44:28 GMT > > > >I was out today and all of a sudden my 69 1600 started backfiring like > >crazy > >when I gave it gas. This happens during acceleration and a constant medium > >speed. It ran good at idle and low speeds though. One thing I noticed was > >that my tube with the screw in it had popped off. But it did not solve the > >problem when I put a new one in. > > > >Timing is ok, fuel level in carbs is ok, vacuum advance mechanism moves > >when > >I suck on it. Points, plugs ok. Choke is not stuck. I tried looking for > >manifold leaks with no luck. Maybe I am doing it wrong though. I sprayed > >some carb cleaner at all gaskets and throttle area without noticing any > >stumbling. This was done at idle. > > > >I am out of ideas. Does anybody have any suggestions? How do you determine > >for sure if it is fuel or ignition? > > > >Thanks, > >Steve > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 22 15:03:38 2000 From: "roadster" To: "Dave Stoll" , "steve car" , Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 14:03:13 -0700 Subject: Re: Backfire problem Don't know for sure, but it sounds to me like an ignition problem. Maybe the distributor jumped and threw the timing off. I know you said the timing is right, but check one more time. Set it at 0 degrees TDC with the rotor towards #1 on the distributor. Pop off the valve cover and check that the #1 valves are in the right position (end of compression stroke so both valves are closed). If not, then the distributor is not oriented right. If okay, then try starting it there, and then start advancing the distributor little by little until it runs okay. If you have to advance much beyond 15 degrees then it's likely that the distributor jumped position somehow. I had a similar problem with my '70 1600 when I bought it as a parts car. According to the P.O., it hadn't run in years and she thought the engine was blown. I got it running, but it ran like crap, backfiring constantly although it did idle okay. The distributor was all screwed up. Once I replaced it the car ran like a champ. Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Stoll" To: "steve car" ; Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 2:39 PM Subject: Re: Backfire problem > backfire thru the carbs maybe a sticking intake valve > > dave stoll > ----- Original Message ----- > From: steve car > To: ; > Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 9:57 PM > Subject: Re: Backfire problem > > > > A couple more things: It seems to be backfiring at the carbs most of the > > time verses at the exhaust pipe. But I am not sure it is actually the > carbs > > but it seems like it. > > Also, it doesn't run quite right when I give it some gas and before it > > starts backfiring. > > I just noticed that I didn't mention that the tube with the screw is at > the > > intake manifold that used to go to the smog stuff. I already have the > > nonemission distributer installed. > > Thanks again, > > Steve > > > > > > >From: "steve car" > > >Reply-To: "steve car" > > >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > >Subject: Backfire problem > > >Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 02:44:28 GMT > > > > > >I was out today and all of a sudden my 69 1600 started backfiring like > > >crazy > > >when I gave it gas. This happens during acceleration and a constant > medium > > >speed. It ran good at idle and low speeds though. One thing I noticed > was > > >that my tube with the screw in it had popped off. But it did not solve > the > > >problem when I put a new one in. > > > > > >Timing is ok, fuel level in carbs is ok, vacuum advance mechanism moves > > >when > > >I suck on it. Points, plugs ok. Choke is not stuck. I tried looking for > > >manifold leaks with no luck. Maybe I am doing it wrong though. I sprayed > > >some carb cleaner at all gaskets and throttle area without noticing any > > >stumbling. This was done at idle. > > > > > >I am out of ideas. Does anybody have any suggestions? How do you > determine > > >for sure if it is fuel or ignition? > > > > > >Thanks, > > >Steve > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 22 16:52:08 2000 From: "Amy & Erik" To: Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 18:01:02 -0500 Subject: newbie mechanic needs help Or should that be wannabe mechanic? I cannot get my car to start. Car de-smogged 2L1600, Last ran about 2 months ago. Would die due to lots of sediment in tank, but when it ran, it ran nicely. Got a new (gas tank renu) tank, new modern fuel filter, new fuel pump diaphram, cleaned out the screens in the banjo bolts. Checked the oil in the pistons, all is fine. Gas is making it to the carbs, I can see it dripping through the filter. I bypassed the glass bowl. It started but was running only on the #3 and 4 cylinders. New plugs this week. The wires are in the correct firing order, plug gap is fine, yellow spark shows on all 4. New cap, rotor points and coil last spring. A slight amount of what looks like soot, or powder on the inside of the cap. Now I cannot get it to start. It will catch ever so slightly then die with the occasional backfire. It will have a lumpy idle like it is running on 1 cylinder, then die in seconds. The only other thing I can report is the black liquid sooty stuff being spit out the tailpipe, and the plugs were slightly damp, indicating what? Too rich, flooded? What else should I be looking at? Erik Smeby 2L 1600 running about as well as my 0L 2000 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 22 17:11:03 2000 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: apotter@mn.rr.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 19:10:29 EDT Subject: Re: newbie mechanic needs help In a message dated 10/22/00 3:53:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, apotter@mn.rr.com writes: > The only other thing I can report is the > black liquid sooty stuff being spit out the tailpipe, and the plugs were > slightly damp, indicating what? Too rich, flooded? What else should I be > looking at? > Erik Smeby > Hello all, Definitely rich, soot and raw gas out the tail pipe. Did you check the float bowl/float needles? Definitely check the firing order and timing. Try less choke. good luck, keith From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 22 18:55:17 2000 From: Jason Simpson To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 17:45:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Another newbie mechanic (and owner) On Sun, 22 Oct 2000, Amy & Erik wrote: I just bought one of the cars I've been dreaming of owning for four or five years now: A 1970 Datsun 1600. I'm interested in doing three things, basically in this order: * Getting it running and driving nicely. (Soon) * Collecting all the bits and pieces that are missing. (A year or two) * Correcting some of the previous owners' mistakes and restoring it as much and as well as a complete amateur can. (Three years from now?) The immediate previous owner only had the car for about two months, but in that time he fiddled with the carbs a bunch trying to get it running well, while overlooking the fact that the forward-most manifold bolt was completely missing and the next one back was stripped. It also received a quick, very cheap paint job. Some major items that are missing include: latches for the hardtop, windshield frame catches for either top, rear bumper, some badges, and the grille. I'm an extreme novice at this car maintenance and repair thing, not much of a mechanic at all, but I'd like to do a lot of the non-bodywork type stuff myself. I'm hoping I can come to you all with problems that I need help, advice, or pointers on while staying true to my goals above. One of my first problems involves a coolant leak around the temperature sender unit. Probably I just need to get a new one. Is this kind of part generally available at your local Schucks/Checker/whatever auto parts store for these cars? Also, my tachometer isn't working. I've unscrewed the cable from the back of the gauge, and it doesn't spin while the engine is running. The other end of the cable appears to be attached below the distributor. I unscrewed it there and that end looked okay -- the tab on the rod at the end of the cable fits into the slot along the shaft. Is running the engine with this end of the cable unscrewed to see if that part actually turns okay to do, or will it start pumping out oil? And finally, I have no garage to work in, just an uncovered driveway and my wife doesn't really want me to get a canopy cover 'cause she thinks they're ugly. Any advice? Should I get a canopy anyway? Any other tips for a very green 1600 owner would also be appreciated. Thanks a bunch in advance for your time and patience, -jrs, pretty much a complete neophyte -- No user serviceable parts inside. From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 22 20:01:55 2000 From: "Tom and Melissa Nash" To: "Amy & Erik" , Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 20:07:21 -0700 Subject: Re: newbie mechanic needs help You may want to check your choke linkages. Having one stuck and not the other would explain #'s 3 and 4 firing and not 1 and 2. Maybe both are stuck? -----Original Message----- From: Amy & Erik To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sunday, October 22, 2000 3:57 PM Subject: newbie mechanic needs help >Or should that be wannabe mechanic? I cannot get my car to start. >Car de-smogged 2L1600, Last ran about 2 months ago. Would die due to lots of >sediment in tank, but when it ran, it ran nicely. Got a new (gas tank renu) >tank, new modern fuel filter, new fuel pump diaphram, cleaned out the >screens in the banjo bolts. Checked the oil in the pistons, all is fine. >Gas is making it to the carbs, I can see it dripping through the filter. I >bypassed the glass bowl. >It started but was running only on the #3 and 4 cylinders. New plugs this >week. The wires are in the correct firing order, plug gap is fine, yellow >spark shows on all 4. New cap, rotor points and coil last spring. A slight >amount of what looks like soot, or powder on the inside of the cap. >Now I cannot get it to start. It will catch ever so slightly then die with >the occasional backfire. It will have a lumpy idle like it is running on 1 >cylinder, then die in seconds. The only other thing I can report is the >black liquid sooty stuff being spit out the tailpipe, and the plugs were >slightly damp, indicating what? Too rich, flooded? What else should I be >looking at? >Erik Smeby >2L 1600 running about as well as my 0L 2000 > > > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 22 20:43:44 2000 From: "steve car" To: steve_car@hotmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 02:43:16 GMT Subject: Re: Backfire problem FIXED First of all, thanks to all for the suggestions. What a great group! Datsunmike gets the prize for pointing specifically at the points. Several others suggested various parts of the ignition, which got me to examine that pretty closely, even though most of the parts had been replaced within the last 500 miles. After swapping out the condenser, coil, plug wires, rotor and distributer cap I was getting ready to swap out the points. I had checked the gap before, which was ok and they were not worn at all. But I did notice a filmy residue on them. I got out the ohmmeter and read 10 ohms across them when they should have been shorted. Sanded them with some 1500 grit and tried again. Ran great! I still don't know why they would develop the film after so few miles. Took it out for a test drive and got pulled over by the local cop for going 15 over the speed limit. I was surprised when the cop said a couple of times "What a nice car". I apologized pretty good and told him that I had spent quite a bit of time over the weekend because it ran like crap and I got carried away on the test drive. Anyway, he let me go. So the day ended on a happy note. Once again, thanks to those who helped me out on this one. Steve >From: "steve car" >To: steve_car@hotmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Re: Backfire problem >Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 04:57:52 GMT > >A couple more things: It seems to be backfiring at the carbs most of the >time verses at the exhaust pipe. But I am not sure it is actually the carbs >but it seems like it. >Also, it doesn't run quite right when I give it some gas and before it >starts backfiring. >I just noticed that I didn't mention that the tube with the screw is at the >intake manifold that used to go to the smog stuff. I already have the >nonemission distributer installed. >Thanks again, >Steve > > >>From: "steve car" >>Reply-To: "steve car" >>To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >>Subject: Backfire problem >>Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 02:44:28 GMT >> >>I was out today and all of a sudden my 69 1600 started backfiring like >>crazy >>when I gave it gas. This happens during acceleration and a constant medium >>speed. It ran good at idle and low speeds though. One thing I noticed was >>that my tube with the screw in it had popped off. But it did not solve the >>problem when I put a new one in. >> >>Timing is ok, fuel level in carbs is ok, vacuum advance mechanism moves >>when >>I suck on it. Points, plugs ok. Choke is not stuck. I tried looking for >>manifold leaks with no luck. Maybe I am doing it wrong though. I sprayed >>some carb cleaner at all gaskets and throttle area without noticing any >>stumbling. This was done at idle. >> >>I am out of ideas. Does anybody have any suggestions? How do you determine >>for sure if it is fuel or ignition? >> >>Thanks, >>Steve >>_________________________________________________________________________ >> >> > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 22 22:32:41 2000 From: Pamela Pepoy To: Ben Zech Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 21:40:40 -0700 Subject: Re: checklist responses appreciated Great Idea! Instead of a calendar called " The Roadsters of NOROC", it would have to be more like a parts catalog. January could be a picture of Ben's 5 speed transmission, February is a close up of Guy's snazzy POR 15'd frame, March is a close up of somebody's box of clutch parts... you get the idea. Really kinda pathetic when you think about it. I can still go varoom, varoom in my garage and dream of eating 914's for lunch. Who knows, "Someday... I'll be a contender." Guy 1967.5 SPL Tempe, AZ Ben Zech wrote: > Great idea for a 2001 calendar > "THE CARS OF NOROC" > ;-) > BZ-RZ N.C. SPL/SRL "SEROC" > motormite@hotmail.com > > >>Bill, > >Is NOROC accepting new members. The list is great but....I really need to > >"belong". Everybody's car goes varoom, varoom and eats 914's. Mine just > >sits > >there sorta > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 06:09:20 2000 From: To: roadsterdude1600@yahoo.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 07:08:25 -0500 Subject: Grease Gun Mine came from Northern tools. I'm not sure how much $$$ - it was a gift. Works great though. Chris Brucciani 1968 2000 Marietta, GA >Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 19:31:44 -0700 (PDT) >From: Mike Harper >Subject: Re: Tranny Update >Where did you buy your air powered grease gun. I've >been considering one. Would like to go to school on >you. >Mike Harper >'66 1600 >Charleston SC From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 07:48:25 2000 From: "Mike Faggart" To: "Jason Simpson" , Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 09:42:34 -0400 Subject: Re: Another newbie mechanic (and owner) Jason, where are you located? Mike Faggart ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Simpson" To: Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 8:45 PM Subject: Another newbie mechanic (and owner) > On Sun, 22 Oct 2000, Amy & Erik wrote: > > I just bought one of the cars I've been dreaming of owning for four or > five years now: A 1970 Datsun 1600. > > I'm interested in doing three things, basically in this order: > * Getting it running and driving nicely. (Soon) > * Collecting all the bits and pieces that are missing. (A year or two) > * Correcting some of the previous owners' mistakes and restoring it as > much and as well as a complete amateur can. (Three years from now?) > > The immediate previous owner only had the car for about two months, but in > that time he fiddled with the carbs a bunch trying to get it running well, > while overlooking the fact that the forward-most manifold bolt was > completely missing and the next one back was stripped. It also received a > quick, very cheap paint job. > > Some major items that are missing include: latches for the hardtop, > windshield frame catches for either top, rear bumper, some badges, and the > grille. > > I'm an extreme novice at this car maintenance and repair thing, not much > of a mechanic at all, but I'd like to do a lot of the non-bodywork type > stuff myself. > > I'm hoping I can come to you all with problems that I need help, advice, > or pointers on while staying true to my goals above. > > One of my first problems involves a coolant leak around the temperature > sender unit. Probably I just need to get a new one. Is this kind of part > generally available at your local Schucks/Checker/whatever auto parts > store for these cars? > > Also, my tachometer isn't working. I've unscrewed the cable from the back > of the gauge, and it doesn't spin while the engine is running. The other > end of the cable appears to be attached below the distributor. I uns crewed > it there and that end looked okay -- the tab on the rod at the end of the > cable fits into the slot along the shaft. Is running the engine with this > end of the cable unscrewed to see if that part actually turns okay to do, > or will it start pumping out oil? > > And finally, I have no garage to work in, just an uncovered driveway and > my wife doesn't really want me to get a canopy cover 'cause she thinks > they're ugly. Any advice? Should I get a canopy anyway? > > Any other tips for a very green 1600 owner would also be appreciated. > > Thanks a bunch in advance for your time and patience, > -jrs, pretty much a complete neophyte > > -- > No user serviceable parts inside. > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 09:03:01 2000 From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com To: shifty Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 08:01:59 -0700 Subject: Re: OT a near-virgin in off-white Great story! and it shows that not all Porsche people are p$*&*s, as per the popular joke. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA shifty wrote: > http://www.hcpresearch.com/stories/white.html > > .....Just then, the Big Red Light went OUT! And the Maestro thought- "Uh, > oh. I bet she's IS Haunted!" Don't laugh. Haunted 356's happen. Quite often > in fact- especially those 356's owned for loooooooong periods of time by > Members of the Female Persuasion. Like this one had been. From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 09:11:12 2000 From: "Ofarrell, Fergus" To: "'roadster.netlist'" Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 08:10:24 -0700 Subject: strange number found I was doing some cleaning on Sunday, and found a number stamped into the 45 degree strut between the grille crossbar and the 'body' (never had the fenders off, so I don't know exactly where they separate), on the diriver side. Is this a fender part number? It starts with 88-0xxxx, and the 0xxxx doesn't match the body or the engine #. (the 88 may have a letter after it, it would require several coats of paint removal to find out) Just curious. Okay, gotta come clean with the Roadster family. Got so stressed out by work demands (and logistics is not my strong suit) that I got my car all prepped and ready, packed it up with the girlfriend and cooler and traveled down to Doheny Beach on Sunday the 14th of October. Lovely location but no roadster crowd when you arrive TWO WEEKS EARLY. dumber than your average bear, ate everything in the pic-a-nic basket, Fergus O'Farrell 69 2000 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 09:20:00 2000 From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com To: steve car Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 08:19:28 -0700 Subject: Re: Backfire problem FIXED The one time I got pulled over in my 2000 (280 northbound near Woodside Road - SF Bay Area folks will know the stretch) the CHP officer also said "Nice car" - only the next thing he said was "Sign here, please". (Sigh). Gary McCormick San Jose, CA steve car wrote: > First of all, thanks to all for the suggestions. What a great group! > Datsunmike gets the prize for pointing specifically at the points. Several > others suggested various parts of the ignition, which got me to examine that > pretty closely, even though most of the parts had been replaced within the > last 500 miles. > > After swapping out the condenser, coil, plug wires, rotor and distributer > cap I was getting ready to swap out the points. I had checked the gap > before, which was ok and they were not worn at all. But I did notice a filmy > residue on them. I got out the ohmmeter and read 10 ohms across them when > they should have been shorted. Sanded them with some 1500 grit and tried > again. Ran great! I still don't know why they would develop the film after > so few miles. > > Took it out for a test drive and got pulled over by the local cop for going > 15 over the speed limit. I was surprised when the cop said a couple of times > "What a nice car". I apologized pretty good and told him that I had spent > quite a bit of time over the weekend because it ran like crap and I got > carried away on the test drive. Anyway, he let me go. > > So the day ended on a happy note. > > Once again, thanks to those who helped me out on this one. > Steve > > >From: "steve car" > >To: steve_car@hotmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > >Subject: Re: Backfire problem > >Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 04:57:52 GMT > > > >A couple more things: It seems to be backfiring at the carbs most of the > >time verses at the exhaust pipe. But I am not sure it is actually the carbs > >but it seems like it. > >Also, it doesn't run quite right when I give it some gas and before it > >starts backfiring. > >I just noticed that I didn't mention that the tube with the screw is at the > >intake manifold that used to go to the smog stuff. I already have the > >nonemission distributer installed. > >Thanks again, > >Steve > > > > > >>From: "steve car" > >>Reply-To: "steve car" > >>To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > >>Subject: Backfire problem > >>Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 02:44:28 GMT > >> > >>I was out today and all of a sudden my 69 1600 started backfiring like > >>crazy > >>when I gave it gas. This happens during acceleration and a constant medium > >>speed. It ran good at idle and low speeds though. One thing I noticed was > >>that my tube with the screw in it had popped off. But it did not solve the > >>problem when I put a new one in. > >> > >>Timing is ok, fuel level in carbs is ok, vacuum advance mechanism moves > >>when > >>I suck on it. Points, plugs ok. Choke is not stuck. I tried looking for > >>manifold leaks with no luck. Maybe I am doing it wrong though. I sprayed > >>some carb cleaner at all gaskets and throttle area without noticing any > >>stumbling. This was done at idle. > >> > >>I am out of ideas. Does anybody have any suggestions? How do you determine > >>for sure if it is fuel or ignition? > >> > >>Thanks, > >>Steve > >>_________________________________________________________________________ > >> > >> > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 09:25:01 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: Ofarrell.Fergus@hitco.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:24:35 EDT Subject: Re: strange number found Fergus, This came up a while back as well. There are several odd numbers stamped into Roadsters. As I recall, there was one on some transmission tunnels as well. I found some japanese writing on my car when I pulled the dash pad. It is in blue grease pencil on the r/f corner of the dash. It looks like some kind of inspectors mark. Interesting stuff. Sid >From: "Ofarrell, Fergus" >Reply-To: "Ofarrell, Fergus" >To: "'roadster.netlist'" >Subject: strange number found >Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 08:10:24 -0700 > >I was doing some cleaning on Sunday, and found a number stamped into the 45 >degree strut between the grille crossbar and the 'body' (never had the >fenders off, so I don't know exactly where they separate), on the diriver >side. >Is this a fender part number? It starts with 88-0xxxx, and the 0xxxx >doesn't match the body or the engine #. (the 88 may have a letter after it, >it would require several coats of paint removal to find out) >Just curious. > >Okay, gotta come clean with the Roadster family. Got so stressed out by >work demands (and logistics is not my strong suit) that I got my car all >prepped and ready, packed it up with the girlfriend and cooler and traveled >down to Doheny Beach on Sunday the 14th of October. >Lovely location but no roadster crowd when you arrive TWO WEEKS EARLY. > >dumber than your average bear, ate everything in the pic-a-nic basket, >Fergus O'Farrell >69 2000 _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 09:54:57 2000 From: "Kyle Hagemann" To: "Amy & Erik" , Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 08:30:56 -0700 Subject: Re: newbie mechanic needs help From: "Amy & Erik" > Or should that be wannabe mechanic? I cannot get my car to start. > Car de-smogged 2L1600, Last ran about 2 months ago. Would die due to lots of > sediment in tank, but when it ran, it ran nicely. Got a new (gas tank renu) > tank, new modern fuel filter, new fuel pump diaphram, cleaned out the > screens in the banjo bolts. Checked the oil in the pistons, all is fine. > Gas is making it to the carbs, I can see it dripping through the filter. I > bypassed the glass bowl. > It started but was running only on the #3 and 4 cylinders. New plugs this > week. The wires are in the correct firing order, plug gap is fine, yellow > spark shows on all 4. New cap, rotor points and coil last spring. A slight > amount of what looks like soot, or powder on the inside of the cap. > Now I cannot get it to start. It will catch ever so slightly then die with > the occasional backfire. It will have a lumpy idle like it is running on 1 > cylinder, then die in seconds. The only other thing I can report is the > black liquid sooty stuff being spit out the tailpipe, and the plugs were > slightly damp, indicating what? Too rich, flooded? What else should I be > looking at? > Erik Smeby > 2L 1600 running about as well as my 0L 2000 Hi Eric- Yellow spark is 'weak' spark; BLUE is where it's at, baby, YEAH! Not that that's necessarily the problem - the low spark could be from the load from the starter. Others have suggested the carbs, and that's a good place to start. Turn both adjustment knobs all the way in, then back out one turn. Jack the idle screws open a ways, and have at it. Don't use the choke until you've cranked it quite a bit; I've found that Datsun 4's don't need a lot of choking. It would also help to set your timing to 0 BTDC, or maybe even a degree or two AFTER TDC. HTH Kyle From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 09:55:09 2000 From: "Kyle Hagemann" To: "Jason Simpson" , Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 08:25:43 -0700 Subject: Re: Another newbie mechanic (and owner) > I just bought one of the cars I've been dreaming of owning for four or > five years now: A 1970 Datsun 1600. Hi Jason. Welcome to Roadsterhood! > I'm interested in doing three things, basically in this order: > * Getting it running and driving nicely. (Soon) > * Collecting all the bits and pieces that are missing. (A year or two) > * Correcting some of the previous owners' mistakes and restoring it as > much and as well as a complete amateur can. (Three years from now?) Your timetable sounds reasonable:-) Take your time, do one thing at a time, and EVERYTHING's easy... parts are available from our on-list vendors, they will probably chime in. > I'm an extreme novice at this car maintenance and repair thing, not much > of a mechanic at all, but I'd like to do a lot of the non-bodywork type > stuff myself. Hey, we all start somewhere. Just don't be afraid to buy tools and get dirty. > One of my first problems involves a coolant leak around the temperature > sender unit. Probably I just need to get a new one. Is this kind of part > generally available at your local Schucks/Checker/whatever auto parts > store for these cars? Very often on cars this age, all you need to do is take it apart, clean it up really good, and reassemble. Try pulling the sender out, cleaning it with some steel wool, and put it back together nice and tight. > Also, my tachometer isn't working. I've unscrewed the cable from the back > of the gauge, and it doesn't spin while the engine is running. The other > end of the cable appears to be attached below the distributor. I unscrewed > it there and that end looked okay -- the tab on the rod at the end of the > cable fits into the slot along the shaft. Is running the engine with this > end of the cable unscrewed to see if that part actually turns okay to do, > or will it start pumping out oil? I don't think it will 'pump' out oil, but it will probably leak. Disconnect the cable from the tach, and hook up the gauge end of it to a power drill. Give it a spin, and see if the tach end turns. If not, guess what? Busted cable. Cool part is, if the housing is in good shape, all you need is a new cable insert, just run it in the old housing. > And finally, I have no garage to work in, just an uncovered driveway and > my wife doesn't really want me to get a canopy cover 'cause she thinks > they're ugly. Any advice? Should I get a canopy anyway? You'll want something to keep it out of the weather, especially when you get a job that takes more than a day to do. Something level, well lit, with easy access to air and electrical power. Something with a hydraulic lift and in-ground fluid drain. Something with a white epoxy floor and a fridge with a Beer Tap in the door.......:-D Okay, I'll stop dreaming- Kyle one 300W incadescent bulb, no beer tap From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 10:15:14 2000 From: Jason Simpson To: Mike Faggart Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 09:20:45 -0700 Subject: Re: Another newbie mechanic (and owner) Mike Faggart wrote: > > Jason, where are you located? I did forget to mention that, didn't I? :) I'm in Seattle. -jrs From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 10:41:36 2000 From: Jason Simpson To: Kyle Hagemann Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 09:47:17 -0700 Subject: Re: Another newbie mechanic (and owner) Kyle Hagemann wrote: > > Hi Jason. Welcome to Roadsterhood! Thanks! > Your timetable sounds reasonable:-) Take your time, do one thing at a time, > and EVERYTHING's easy... parts are available from our on-list vendors, > they will probably chime in. Excellent. Are there any books on auto mechanics in general or on these fine Datsun roadsters that are especially recommended for a newbie like me? > You'll want something to keep it out of the weather, especially when you > get a job that takes more than a day to do. Something level, well lit, > with easy access to air and electrical power. Something with a hydraulic > lift and in-ground fluid drain. Something with a white epoxy floor and > a fridge with a Beer Tap in the door.......:-D Heh. That'd be quite nice! I'll have to figure something out being here in the wetness of Seattle, whether it's constructing a 'carport' type area in the driveway, or storing the car temporarily at my dad's or at my friend's garage about an hour away by car and ferry (ouch). I'll give the tachometer a nice drill test and the temperature sender a good cleaning and see. Thanks again to everyone for the gracious welcome! -jrs From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 11:14:10 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 13:13:11 EDT Subject: Mystery Roadster Spotted I was driving on early Sunday morning through San Francisco and as I drove down the "Crookedest Street in the World" Lombard Street there was this little car parked in front of a multi-million dollar house. It was under a car cover but I recognized it as a Datsun Roadster. I drove my bike over for a closer look and without touching the car cover I could see that it was a high windshield model. Possibly a '69 or '70 due to the slight bulge at the front of the fenders where the side markers would be. 1600 or 2L I dont know. But it did run on Panasports and the rear leaf spring shackle was turned upside down. I dont know the color but the cover was biege. ;>) A list member? If so, lets have a BADROC party your mansion! Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 11:43:12 2000 From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com To: sidney raper Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:42:32 -0700 Subject: Re: strange number found I read an article some years back about the Corvette concours crowd and the lengths to which they will go to in pursuit of a "100-point" car - they will actually replicate the inspector's chalk marks on nearly inaccessible areas of the car... so take pictures of those grease pencil marks before starting that complete, wheels-up, body-off restoration of your Roadsters, everyone - you may want to put them back! Gary McCormick San Jose, CA sidney raper wrote: > Fergus, > > This came up a while back as well. There are several odd numbers stamped > into Roadsters. As I recall, there was one on some transmission tunnels as > well. I found some japanese writing on my car when I pulled the dash pad. > It is in blue grease pencil on the r/f corner of the dash. It looks like > some kind of inspectors mark. Interesting stuff. > > Sid > > >From: "Ofarrell, Fergus" > >Reply-To: "Ofarrell, Fergus" > >To: "'roadster.netlist'" > >Subject: strange number found > >Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 08:10:24 -0700 > > > >I was doing some cleaning on Sunday, and found a number stamped into the 45 > >degree strut between the grille crossbar and the 'body' (never had the > >fenders off, so I don't know exactly where they separate), on the diriver > >side. > >Is this a fender part number? It starts with 88-0xxxx, and the 0xxxx > >doesn't match the body or the engine #. (the 88 may have a letter after it, > >it would require several coats of paint removal to find out) > >Just curious. > > > >Okay, gotta come clean with the Roadster family. Got so stressed out by > >work demands (and logistics is not my strong suit) that I got my car all > >prepped and ready, packed it up with the girlfriend and cooler and traveled > >down to Doheny Beach on Sunday the 14th of October. > >Lovely location but no roadster crowd when you arrive TWO WEEKS EARLY. > > > >dumber than your average bear, ate everything in the pic-a-nic basket, > >Fergus O'Farrell > >69 2000 > > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 12:25:42 2000 From: noji To: Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:41:22 -0700 Subject: Re: Mystery Roadster Spotted BADROC et al, There was an article in this weekends Chronicle about the congestion on Lombard Street. Depending on the time of day the delays can be quite long to drive down the street. Never the less, I thought I would make a great calendar page to have the street filled with Roadsters. Potentially a future part of a BADROC drive? Dana CalSpeed@aol.com wrote: > > I was driving on early Sunday morning through San Francisco and as I drove > down the "Crookedest Street in the World" Lombard Street there was this > little car parked in front of a multi-million dollar house. It was under a > car cover but I recognized it as a Datsun Roadster. I drove my bike over for > a closer look and without touching the car cover I could see that it was a > high windshield model. Possibly a '69 or '70 due to the slight bulge at the > front of the fenders where the side markers would be. 1600 or 2L I dont > know. But it did run on Panasports and the rear leaf spring shackle was > turned upside down. I dont know the color but the cover was biege. ;>) > > A list member? If so, lets have a BADROC party your mansion! > > Calspeed -- Dana Nojima, Ph.D. Department of Urology VA Medical Center - 112F 4150 Clement Street San Francisco, CA 94121 phone: (415) 221-4810 x 2031 fax: (415) 750-6639 noji-1@pacbell.net From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 12:59:58 2000 From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, noji Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:47:24 -0700 Subject: Re[2]: Mystery Roadster Spotted Dana, Funny you should mention that. Calspeed's BADROC runs usually include a drive down that "crookedest street in the world", as it's called. It really isn't but it is the most well-known and prettiest crooked street. We've got pictures of our past runs. I'm sure Calspeed is planning a future run there for next spring 2001. See http://www.2xtreme.net/fredkatz/sfrunb.html as an example of a past run. Fred - So.SF BADROC ________________________ Reply Separator ___________________________ Subject: Re: Mystery Roadster Spotted Author: noji Date: 10/23/2000 11:41 AM BADROC et al, There was an article in this weekends Chronicle about the congestion on Lombard Street. Depending on the time of day the delays can be quite long to drive down the street. Never the less, I thought I would make a great calendar page to have the street filled with Roadsters. Potentially a future part of a BADROC drive? Dana CalSpeed@aol.com wrote: > > I was driving on early Sunday morning through San Francisco and as I drove > down the "Crookedest Street in the World" Lombard Street there was this > little car parked in front of a multi-million dollar house. It was under a > car cover but I recognized it as a Datsun Roadster. I drove my bike over for > a closer look and without touching the car cover I could see that it was a > high windshield model. Possibly a '69 or '70 due to the slight bulge at the > front of the fenders where the side markers would be. 1600 or 2L I dont > know. But it did run on Panasports and the rear leaf spring shackle was > turned upside down. I dont know the color but the cover was biege. ;>) > > A list member? If so, lets have a BADROC party your mansion! > > Calspeed -- Dana Nojima, Ph.D. Department of Urology VA Medical Center - 112F 4150 Clement Street San Francisco, CA 94121 phone: (415) 221-4810 x 2031 fax: (415) 750-6639 noji-1@pacbell.net From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 13:08:18 2000 From: "Hall, Phillip" To: "Roadsters (E-mail)" , Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:11:14 -0500 Subject: SEROC takes Road Atlanta! long.. Hey Listers - SEROC dominates Road Atlanta with 4 Roadsters and a NOROCer. I took off for RA Saturday morning and arrived early afternoon - bad traffic! I drove into the infield to find Ben and Rita Zech (they were at Shasta - supper nice people) in their very nice white '67 and NOROCer Mike and wife Regina Faggart in their M-B 240D - all from NC. Mike has had problems with back firing in his 2L, so it did not make it and it was hard on him. After a few minutes a pink 2L started working its way around the infield - in the distance we thought is was a MG (OK it was a LONG way off!!). A beautiful pink 2L pulled up and Chris jumped out. His paint was perfect - now the color was mmm different:-) Walked around back and what did we SEE!! MG tail lights OOOGGG!!! So, our previous observation was not far off! To Chris's defense it was a PO thing - as the paint. Lots of hand shakes and under-hood looking and a white Roadster is spotted come up the road. At this point we were afraid to call out "another Roadster" after the shock of MG lights on a Roadster. Up drove John Brassfield from AL in his 2L, opens the door and falls to the ground. Long drive on an old seat about did him in - he was sitting on at cushion with the center cut out. Now, I would have stopped down the road and hid that! We watch races and talk Roadsters the rest of the day. There are some FAST cars on the track and the sounds were great! Thanks Chris for bringing chicken - seems I did not bring anything and all others had beer - thanks guys! After the races we head back to the motel -thanks Chris for letting me crash on the floor, more comfy then the tent. On the way back we race up the interstate passing each other at almost 100 MPH (5600RPM on Chris's tach). It is sooo much fun to run with other Roadsters. Rita was driving their 1600 and stayed at 80 or so - next time she will give us a run for our money! And we HAD to pass Mike - that diesel smell! After dinner we head to a bar to catch the game. We parked in front of the glass - have a beer, watch the game and look at great cars - life IS good! Now, our pretty little waitress walks up and asks if those Datsun Roadsters were ours. Yes (big smiles). "Well" she said "my boy friend has a 67 ˝ 2L". Our mouths fall open. Not a pleasing sight - beer running down our chins! She knows all about Roadsters and called her boyfriend which drove his Roadster down so we could drool on the paint. He showed up in a beautiful red 2L! He is about 19 or so and has spent a lot of time and money restoring this Roadster sense '91. One disappointment - it was a 1600 with a 2L motor, but very nice! So, we have two new SEROC members!!! Amazing how things work! Thanks Rita for getting us back to the motel safely - side effects of beer:-) The next day we park in the Car Club area with a nice collection of Lotus and Corvettes. We get a lot of attention from lookers - always makes you feel good! Time for parade laps!! This was an absolute blast!!! We got in about 6 laps. Mike rode with me with a video camera and we did get in a couple of corners at speed by backing off a bit from the Ford tank in front of us. Mike's great wife rode with John so even the NOROCers had fun. We would cook through the corners with Ben and Rita on our tail - damn that was fun!! We came back in and noticed another line going to the track forming - so, out again we go! This time Mike drives his M-B and sets the fastest lap in a 240D - we think so anyway! Chris and pretty wife Loretta are regulars at RA and gave us pointers as they drifted "pinky" around the corners. The only break was John lost a collector gasket (bolts and all) on the track, so Mike drove him to the auto parts store while we set out looking at all the wonderful old race cars - Can-am, Indy, NASCAR, even three or so 510s. No Roadsters:-( In a half an hour John's Roadster is quiet again (I kind of liked the race car sound!). We parted ways to head home with promises to do this again in the spring. We all had a GREAT TIME!!! Meeting fellow SEROCers/Roadster nuts is like seen a long lost relative. Life long friendships are made! We will start posting pictures soon - I forgot the disk in the Roadster. SEROC please add/make corrections if needed. Thanks all that could make it! If you did not get there - see you next time!!! Phil - SEROCing it!! From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 14:16:48 2000 From: Marc Tyler To: "Jason Simpson" , Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 15:22:23 -0500 Subject: Re: Another newbie mechanic (and owner) Jason Simpson wrote >And finally, I have no garage to work in, just an uncovered driveway and >my wife doesn't really want me to get a canopy cover 'cause she thinks >they're ugly. Any advice? Should I get a canopy anyway? Remind your wife how ugly a dissasembled car in the driveway will be, at least you can hide it under a canopy ;-) -Marc T. From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 14:36:44 2000 From: Teddy Seidenfeld To: "Roadster List" Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:36:58 -0400 Subject: Roadster sighting Santa Monica -- anyone on this list? Hello all from Pittsburgh PA A white roadster with a red racing stripe over the driver's headlight was spotted at 4th Street just off the I-10 in Santa Monica, about 1:15 PM Pacific local time. No other details. Anyone on this list? How, you may ask, does someone sitting in Pittsburgh see that far? Well, it is true that the atmospherics here have greatly improved since the mills disappeared about 20 years ago. However, in this case, my son David just phoned me, excited, about seeing a Roadster. David is in LA and drives a black '85 Alfa Spider Veloce with PA plates. He can be contacted at davidseidenfeld@hotmail.com, in case some of you out there care to offer him seat time in a true sports car now that his dad can't continue to provide that part of his education. Best, Teddy 69 2000 Pgh PA OROC From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 14:37:08 2000 From: Beamonk@aol.com To: Phillip.Hall@msfc.nasa.gov, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:36:28 EDT Subject: Re: SEROC takes Road Atlanta! long.. I just visited Ben and Rita's photopoint site, great pics, and a great group of people to spend the weekend with. For those who have never been on the track at road Atlanta, track days is about the best $200.00 one will ever spend, well, unless something happens! Hint Phil! Anyway, it was great to meet the new people and I really enjoyed the beautiful fall folliage. For those who didn't come, man you be missin' out. John Brasfield From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 14:52:07 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: Beamonk@aol.com, Phillip.Hall@msfc.nasa.gov, Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:51:05 EDT Subject: Re: SEROC takes Road Atlanta! long.. In a message dated 10/23/00 8:39:16 PM !!!First Boot!!!, Beamonk@aol.com writes: << I just visited Ben and Rita's photopoint site, great pics, and a great group of people to spend the weekend with. >> Can I see the pics too? Any address to forward? Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 14:57:05 2000 From: "Hall, Phillip" To: "Roadsters (E-mail)" , Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 15:59:35 -0500 Subject: FW: SEROC and NOROC at Road Atlanta Lists - Sense the cat is out - here is Ben and Rita's pictures. Enjoy! Phil Here are the pictures we took this weekend. Phil, will you forward to John? We don't have his email address. We will be posting it to the list soon. Just wanted you to view first. Thanks. I was really great meeting all of you...we're ready to get together again soon. Ben and Rita http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=185114&a=9516034 _________________________________________________________________________ . From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 15:01:25 2000 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:00:40 -0400 Subject: Drivers seat frame, late model Free to a good home; drivers side late model seat frame. Upholstery and padding were shot so they went out with the trash this morning. I got it cleaned up a bit for a trip to Buffalo but Bob found another seat closer to home. The seat rails are not with the frame and it goes without a head rest. It is in Ohio and goes for freight $$. Paul OROC From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 15:14:08 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: jason@xio.com, kwhcpa@addler.net Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:13:44 EDT Subject: Re: Another newbie mechanic (and owner) Jason, Just a word of warning. Go slowly with the drill - In fact, you may be able to spin the end by hand while someone looks for any movement at the tach end. Sid >From: Jason Simpson >Reply-To: Jason Simpson >To: Kyle Hagemann >CC: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Re: Another newbie mechanic (and owner) >Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 09:47:17 -0700 > >Kyle Hagemann wrote: > > > > Hi Jason. Welcome to Roadsterhood! > >Thanks! > > > Your timetable sounds reasonable:-) Take your time, do one thing at a >time, > > and EVERYTHING's easy... parts are available from our on-list vendors, > > they will probably chime in. > >Excellent. Are there any books on auto mechanics in general or on these >fine Datsun roadsters that are especially recommended for a newbie like >me? > > > You'll want something to keep it out of the weather, especially when you > > get a job that takes more than a day to do. Something level, well lit, > > with easy access to air and electrical power. Something with a >hydraulic > > lift and in-ground fluid drain. Something with a white epoxy floor and > > a fridge with a Beer Tap in the door.......:-D > >Heh. That'd be quite nice! I'll have to figure something out being here >in the wetness of Seattle, whether it's constructing a 'carport' type >area in the driveway, or storing the car temporarily at my dad's or at >my friend's garage about an hour away by car and ferry (ouch). > >I'll give the tachometer a nice drill test and the temperature sender a >good cleaning and see. > > Thanks again to everyone for the gracious welcome! > -jrs _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 16:42:29 2000 From: "Robin Krause" To: mtyler@hctc.net, jason@xio.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 22:41:23 GMT Subject: Re: Another newbie mechanic (and owner) >And finally, I have no garage to work in, just an uncovered driveway and > >my wife doesn't really want me to get a canopy cover 'cause she thinks > >they're ugly. Any advice? Should I get a canopy anyway? >Remind your wife how ugly a dissasembled car in the driveway will be, at >least you can hide it under a canopy ;-) > >-Marc T. Make that a RUSTING disassembled car! Robin K _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 16:59:32 2000 From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 15:58:46 -0700 Subject: Re: Drivers seat frame, late model Hmmmn... Just how easy is it to take a plush seat upholstery from a non-roadster and to fit it on a roadster seat frame? Of course I'd do it differently than John Brassfield from AL; I want a full seat! (No, I don't want to install a different frame, like Miatas; I've got a couple spare roadster seat frames.) Fred - So.SF, CA BADROC _______________________ Reply Separator _______________________ >Subject: Drivers seat frame, late model >Author: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> >Date: 10/23/2000 5:00 PM > >Free to a good home; drivers side late model seat frame. Upholstery >and padding were shot so they went out with the trash this morning. I >got it cleaned up a bit for a trip to Buffalo but Bob found another >seat closer to home. The seat rails are not with the frame and it goes >without a head rest. It is in Ohio and goes for freight $$. > >Paul >OROC > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 17:04:21 2000 From: Jason Simpson To: Robin Krause Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:09:59 -0700 Subject: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) There are two controls on the dash I haven't figured out yet. One is the one just below the wiper control, second down on the far left of the dash. Here's a rough ASCII depiction of its label: \ | / \ | / |\ /| | \ \ / | | ) O ( | | / \ \ | |/ \| It appears to be a twist-only knob, and it seems to rotate perhaps a quarter-turn. The other control is labeled "S/BRAKE" on the center console next to the radio and, when pulled, illuminates a round red light with a "B" on the dash below and to the right of the fuel/temp/etc. gauges. What are these controls? -jrs From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 17:27:01 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: jason@xio.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 19:25:49 EDT Subject: Re: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) Hello... Usually when someone posts question like this it becomes a race to see who can answer first. The twist knob is a Choke cable to the carbs. The S brake is... uhhhh I forgot but I think it has something to do with checking the brake system. Darn it... I should know this. ;>) Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 17:27:42 2000 From: "Eric R. Wittinger" To: Datsun Roadster Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:27:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Part number please Hi All I am looking for a part number for the rear axel seal. This is the seal that keeps the rear diff fluid in the rear diff and not coming out into the rear breaks (my problem) thanks Eric ________________________________________________ | Eric R Wittinger | | Pacific Northwest National Laboratory | | NSD Radiological and Chemical Sciences Group | | Web page www.ee.pdx.edu/~wittiner | | Email wittiner@EE.pdx.edu | | Email (work) Eric.Wittinger@pnl.gov | ------------------------------------------------ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 17:31:35 2000 From: "John F Sandhoff" To: Jason Simpson Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:30:41 -0700 Subject: Re: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) > There are two controls on the dash I haven't figured out yet. Ah, you can always tell the newcomers, when they ask about the s/brake switch :-) [that is NOT meant as an insult. Sometimes, alas, my humor is mis-interpreted...] > ...just below the wiper control, second down on the far left... 'poor man's cruise control'. NO, DON'T USE IT FOR THAT. It's the throttle knob. Hooks to the accelerator bellcrank. Pull it out and twist to lock to increase engine speed. Useful to warm it up. Usually broken. > The other control is labelled "S/BRAKE" on the center console... Starting with the 67.5 cars, a dual-reservoir master brake cylinder was used for safety. A leak in one brake circuit doesn't knock out all braking function (so the theory goes). To warn of a problem - that is, a loss of braking pressure in one circuit - a differential pressure switch is used in the brake line (mounted on the right side of the firewall). Front and rear brake lines run to it, plus a wire to a connector on the top. If one set of brakes fail, a switch turns on the red 'B' light on the dash (lower right). But how do you know that the bulb is OK? Aha, that's what this switch does. It just turns on the lamp, so you know the bulb works! Doesn't check the brake switch itself, or the brake system, or anything much except turning on that light. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 17:38:12 2000 From: "Mick T" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 23:37:49 GMT Subject: Parts Questions Hi all, I'm in need of the hood release cable, and knob. The threads to my knob are stripped. Is this something I should try to get used? Has anyone priced something like this out from the dealer? Also, I'm having my hood worked on, and I'm not quite sure how to get the chrome trim (above the D a t s u n letters) off the hood. Is it glued on? -Mick- _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 17:38:34 2000 From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us To: "Roadsters (E-mail)" , Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:31:41 -0700 Subject: Re: FW: SEROC and NOROC at Road Atlanta Yes, very nice pics! Nice to see Ben and Rita and their sweet roadster, after meeting them earlier this year when they visited CA. Hopefully Chris' MGB tail-light disease won't infect SEROC. You guys really filled that roadster and didn't leave much room, in the pic dcp_0164! Fred _________________________ Reply Separator ________________________ >Subject: FW: SEROC and NOROC at Road Atlanta >Author: "Hall; Phillip" >Date: 10/23/2000 3:59 PM > >Lists - Sense the cat is out - here is Ben and Rita's pictures. Enjoy! > >Phil > >Here are the pictures we took this weekend. >Phil, will you forward to John? We don't have his email address. We will be >posting it to the list soon. Just wanted you to view first. Thanks. >I was really great meeting all of you...we're ready to get together again >soon. >Ben and Rita >http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=185114&a=9516034 > >_________________________________________________________________________ > . > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 17:41:05 2000 From: jon_wissler@pngc.com To: Jason Simpson Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:42:58 -0700 Subject: Re: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) If I'm not mistaken, although mine looks different, the one below the wipers is for setting your idle higher on a temporary basis. I use it on mine to keep the engine idle up during warm-up. The S/Brake switch I believe to be a "test" switch that lets you know the brake balancing system is operating correctly. I'm sure there is a more technical answer to the later, but I think that is an accurate short answer. The problem with the S/Brake switch is, if it doesn't light, it could be bacuse the switch/bulb is bad rather than your brakes. My light is currently not working. Jason Simpson Sent by: owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net 10/23/00 04:09 PM Please respond to Jason Simpson To: Robin Krause cc: mtyler@hctc.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) There are two controls on the dash I haven't figured out yet. One is the one just below the wiper control, second down on the far left of the dash. Here's a rough ASCII depiction of its label: \ | / \ | / |\ /| | \ \ / | | ) O ( | | / \ \ | |/ \| It appears to be a twist-only knob, and it seems to rotate perhaps a quarter-turn. The other control is labeled "S/BRAKE" on the center console next to the radio and, when pulled, illuminates a round red light with a "B" on the dash below and to the right of the fuel/temp/etc. gauges. What are these controls? -jrs From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 17:41:19 2000 From: Jason Simpson To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:47:03 -0700 Subject: Re: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) Thanks everybody, especially John here for the lucid description of the S/BRAKE control. :) I noticed that a cable that seemed to attach to the top of the throttle rod from the accelerator pedal was, yes indeed, broken -- I just hadn't traced it back to the knob yet. -jrs John F Sandhoff wrote: > > > ...just below the wiper control, second down on the far left... > > 'poor man's cruise control'. NO, DON'T USE IT FOR THAT. > It's the throttle knob. > > > The other control is labelled "S/BRAKE" on the center console... > > But how do you know that the bulb is OK? Aha, that's what this switch > does. It just turns on the lamp, so you know the bulb works! From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 17:49:38 2000 From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us To: Robin Krause , Jason Simpson Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:45:05 -0700 Subject: Re: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) Well, if you haven't used them, you don't have to worry about them. What I hear is that most folks don't bother using the throttle at all. Mine is busted and it isn't missed. It allows you to pull the accelerator linkage, and a twist locks it so the engine can be revved higher. Dangerous to use it as a cruise control - don't consider that. Best use is when moving uphill from a dead stop, when your feet are busy on the clutch and brake pedals, or to keep the engine from killing at slow idle. You'll get a lot of responses on the S/BRAKE control, but you've already figured it out. It does exactly what you've indicated, when you pull it the B lights up. The only purpose is to verify that the light bulb works. So if your tandem brakes have a hydraulic failure the light will be lit, but by then your foot will have already discovered that! (Maybe you can convert the bulb socket to a map light and get some real use out of it.) Fred - So.SF BADROC ________________________ Reply Separator _________________________ >Subject: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) >Author: Jason Simpson >Date: 10/23/2000 4:09 PM > > >There are two controls on the dash I haven't figured out yet. > >One is the one just below the wiper control, second down on the far >left of the dash. Here's a rough ASCII depiction of its label: > >\ | / >\ | / >|\ /| >| \ \ / | >| ) O ( | >| / \ \ | >|/ \| > >It appears to be a twist-only knob, and it seems to rotate perhaps a >quarter-turn. > >The other control is labeled "S/BRAKE" on the center console next to >the radio and, when pulled, illuminates a round red light with a "B" on >the dash below and to the right of the fuel/temp/etc. gauges. > >What are these controls? > >-jrs > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 18:08:37 2000 From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, "Mick T" Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:04:02 -0700 Subject: Re: Parts Questions The chrome trim is pressed on, and is a friction fit. No glue. You should be able to get a flat blade screwdriver behind the corner edge and tap gently to pry the trim off. Try our roadster dealers for the hood release cable. They can get you one. Fred - So.SF BADROC _______________________ Reply Separator _________________________ >Subject: Parts Questions >Author: "Mick T" >Date: 10/23/2000 11:37 PM > >Hi all, >I'm in need of the hood release cable, and knob. The threads to my knob >are stripped. Is this something I should try to get used? Has anyone priced >something like this out from the dealer? Also, I'm having my hood worked on, >and I'm not quite sure how to get the chrome trim (above the D a t s u n >letters) off the hood. Is it glued on? > >-Mick- >_________________________________________________________________________ > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 18:09:02 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Eric R. Wittinger" , Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:03:39 -0400 Subject: Re: Part number please Part No. is 38212-04101 Cost is about 3.50 Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric R. Wittinger To: Datsun Roadster Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 7:27 PM Subject: Part number please > Hi All I am looking for a part number for the rear axel seal. This is the > seal that keeps the rear diff fluid in the rear diff and not coming out > into the rear breaks (my problem) > > thanks > Eric > > ________________________________________________ > | Eric R Wittinger | > | Pacific Northwest National Laboratory | > | NSD Radiological and Chemical Sciences Group | > | Web page www.ee.pdx.edu/~wittiner | > | Email wittiner@EE.pdx.edu | > | Email (work) Eric.Wittinger@pnl.gov | > ------------------------------------------------ > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 18:20:09 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us, robinkrause@hotmail.com, jason@xio.com Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:07:34 EDT Subject: Re: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) << Well, if you haven't used them, you don't have to worry about them. What I hear is that most folks don't bother using the throttle at all. Mine is busted and it isn't missed. It allows you to pull the accelerator linkage, and a twist locks it so the engine can be revved higher. Dangerous to use it as a cruise control - don't consider that. >> Hello, I agree. It is not to be used as a cruise control although I did use it as that when I was driving through the desolate areas of AZ and NM two years ago. I remember setting it at around 75 or so and then just relaxing. Although everytime I went up and down an incline or dip on the highway the speed would change. Sometimes drastically. No... I dont recommend it to be used that way but it sure did come in handy that summer. Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 18:22:10 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Mick T" Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:11:03 -0400 Subject: Re: Parts Questions Mick, Pull hard!!!!!!!! and if it still doesn't come off pull HARDER! Held on by very strong clips. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Mick T To: Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 7:37 PM Subject: Parts Questions > Hi all, > I'm in need of the hood release cable, and knob. The threads to my knob > are stripped. Is this something I should try to get used? Has anyone priced > something like this out from the dealer? Also, I'm having my hood worked on, > and I'm not quite sure how to get the chrome trim (above the D a t s u n > letters) off the hood. Is it glued on? > > -Mick- > _________________________________________________________________________ > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 18:26:35 2000 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: , Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 19:59:14 -0400 Subject: Re: Drivers seat frame, late model When I had my 1600's seats reupholstered, I had my choice of regular, firm or extra firm cushions. I went with the suggested thick extra firm with a layer of regular on top; soft but doesn't bottom out under my considerable weight. And new webbing to support all of that doesn't hurt either. Paul OROC -----Original Message----- From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net ; Paul <9laser3@bright.net> Date: Monday, October 23, 2000 6:59 PM Subject: Re: Drivers seat frame, late model >Hmmmn... Just how easy is it to take a plush seat upholstery from a >non-roadster and to fit it on a roadster seat frame? > >Of course I'd do it differently than John Brassfield from AL; I want a full >seat! (No, I don't want to install a different frame, like Miatas; I've got >a couple spare roadster seat frames.) > >Fred - So.SF, CA >BADROC From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 18:28:25 2000 From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, Jason Simpson Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:26:53 -0700 Subject: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) How about listing some alternative uses for the S/BRAKE knob and light. We know it isn't very useful with the existing function, so why not re-plumb it. I came up with these as a start. Pulling the knob... 1) tells you if your engine is running. I've seen people automatically turn the ignition key and "scrunch!!!". This will save your starter. 2) actuates a passenger ejection mechanism. Handy when you'd rather listen to the purr of the engine instead of your date. 3) raises/lowers the convertible top. Note that this will take a LOT of work. 4) turns on a dome light. Of course, you have to figure out how to install a dome light. 5) actuates the nitrous-oxide system. Maybe Ron Hamilton and a few others have already done this. 6) deploys the rear chute, good for panic stops. 7) inflates a dummy passenger, for when you're driving through dangerous neighborhoods and you don't want to look like you're alone. 8) inflates a dummy passenger, so you'd rather be alone. 9) opens the drain plugs in the floor so if it starts raining and you don't have a top your feet stay dry (Ken Pletcher needs this). 10) pops open a compartment displaying the phone numbers of all our roadster vendors in case you get stuck. All in good fun, Fred - So.SF BADROC From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 18:33:13 2000 From: Ray Cole To: "datsunmike" , "Mick T" Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 08:32:08 -0700 Subject: Re: Parts Questions Careful! The ends of that chrome piece have been known to scratch the hood (speaking from experience). Ray 68 1600 68 2000 At 08:11 PM 10/23/2000 -0400, datsunmike wrote: >Mick, > >Pull hard!!!!!!!! and if it still doesn't come off pull HARDER! Held on by >very strong clips. > >Mike > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Mick T >To: >Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 7:37 PM >Subject: Parts Questions > > >> Hi all, >> I'm in need of the hood release cable, and knob. The threads to my knob >> are stripped. Is this something I should try to get used? Has anyone >priced >> something like this out from the dealer? Also, I'm having my hood worked >on, >> and I'm not quite sure how to get the chrome trim (above the D a t s u n >> letters) off the hood. Is it glued on? >> >> -Mick- >> _________________________________________________________________________ >> >> > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 18:36:46 2000 From: "Ofarrell, Fergus" To: "'roadster.netlist'" Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:35:56 -0700 Subject: two things (oops, 3) two things: first, saw this ad in a local classifieds page. anyone out there? hmmm, started with a one-wire-GM-alternator and didn't know when to stop. 1969 Datsun 2000 Roadster Converted V6 Firebird eng, Roll Bar, Alloys, 5 speed, New Silver pnt, HardTop, Excellent Condition 714-969-0971 (huntington beach, CA), $3900 firm. second, reference message below: From: CalSpeed@aol.com Subject: Mystery Roadster Spotted <> What? which way is it supposed to go? My rear springs are so sprung that they are nearly concave, and I'm sure my picture is posted on the wall of the trench-plate-rental company as Public Enemy #6. Do the shackles hold the aft end of the leaf spring above the mount or below? I'd move it to below, to buy a couple inches, but I think cornering would be a bit like watching a slinky walk down stairs. third thing: in response to exhaust discussions: I had a local muffler shop re-do my tailpipe, and wanted to avoid these guys messing with opening up the frame, since I couldn't stay and watch. when they said they didn't have 1-7/8" tubing to go thru the frame I told them it was okay to put 1-3/4", and after adjusting to the greatly reduced noise factor (it had a huuuge leak), I definitely notice a slight negative change in throttle response. can you say 'choked flow'? Next time I'll know, I guess. No more loose pipes hitting the frame, though. Now someone else in the alley has the most obnoxious exhaust, Fergus O'Farrell From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 18:45:22 2000 From: Mike Poorboy To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:48:03 -0700 Subject: Parts discounts Hello List, I would like to let you know that Jaremko Nissan is offering 20 % off of list for Nissan parts. Let them know you are from the Roadster mailing list. If you need help with part numbers let me know or contact them at (800) 821-2448 and ask for the parts department. Thanks, Mike Nowroc From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 18:52:59 2000 From: "Dave Stoll" To: "Eric R. Wittinger" , Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:44:58 -0700 Subject: Re: Part number please See Tom Walter's tech tips on rear bearing replacement from roadster.org there is an inner and outer seal for the bearing, you sound like you will be pullin the axle to replace either. Follow Walter's directions and parts list. dave stoll ps- he mentions the machine shops getting things backwards so I gave the shop a copy of the tech tips. When I stopped by to pick up my axle/bearing assembly they put the outer seal between the bearing and brake plate!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric R. Wittinger To: Datsun Roadster Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 4:27 PM Subject: Part number please > Hi All I am looking for a part number for the rear axel seal. This is the > seal that keeps the rear diff fluid in the rear diff and not coming out > into the rear breaks (my problem) > > thanks > Eric > > ________________________________________________ > | Eric R Wittinger | > | Pacific Northwest National Laboratory | > | NSD Radiological and Chemical Sciences Group | > | Web page www.ee.pdx.edu/~wittiner | > | Email wittiner@EE.pdx.edu | > | Email (work) Eric.Wittinger@pnl.gov | > ------------------------------------------------ > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 19:03:12 2000 From: jon_wissler@pngc.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 18:05:03 -0700 Subject: Re: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) Fred you forgot: 7(a)) Inflates a dummy passenger, for when you're driving the commuter lane and you don't want to get a ticket for having less than two people in the car. From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 19:12:33 2000 From: R Haug To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 18:11:42 -0700 Subject: Grant Steering Wheel Adapter Hi All, I have slowly been bending new brake lines from new straight tubing. I have to cut off the end to form a new double flare but it has worked well so far. My Question is does someone have the part number for the Grant Steering wheel Adapter. I tried to access the archives but it gives me an internal sever error message, premature end or script headers. TIA Bob 67.5 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 19:19:47 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, mickth@hotmail.com Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 21:19:04 EDT Subject: Re: Parts Questions All, I have to disagree. A screwdriver makes it too easy to scratch the paint and/or damage the trim. Instead get a piece of wood (hardwood is better, but pine will work) and use it as a drift and gently hammer it off. No paint damage, no chrome damage! Sid >From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us >Reply-To: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, "Mick T" >Subject: Re: Parts Questions >Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:04:02 -0700 > >The chrome trim is pressed on, and is a friction fit. No glue. You should >be able to get a flat blade screwdriver behind the corner edge and tap >gently to pry the trim off. > >Try our roadster dealers for the hood release cable. They can get you one. > >Fred - So.SF >BADROC > >_______________________ Reply Separator _________________________ > >Subject: Parts Questions > >Author: "Mick T" > >Date: 10/23/2000 11:37 PM > > > >Hi all, > >I'm in need of the hood release cable, and knob. The threads to my knob > >are stripped. Is this something I should try to get used? Has anyone >priced > >something like this out from the dealer? Also, I'm having my hood worked >on, > >and I'm not quite sure how to get the chrome trim (above the D a t s u n > >letters) off the hood. Is it glued on? > > > >-Mick- > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 20:07:10 2000 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 22:05:55 -0400 Subject: RHD 280Z dash? Met a Z club member that picked up a Japanese spec 280ZX at Carisle this summer (I'm sure some of you saw it there) and he is looking for a dash board for it. He knows about Just Dashes and their high prices and is looking for something else. Any ideas? Paul OROC From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 20:47:21 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: datsunroadsters@egroups.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 22:46:52 EDT Subject: 1500 carbs last call Hello all, This is the last call on the 1500 induction that I have. It is a set of carbs, the manifold, aircleaner, and linkage for a 1500 dual carb model. These are all the correct parts. I am going to send them to Ztherapy if no one on the list is interested in buying them. I am planning to mail them on Wednesday, so let me know before then! Thanks, Sid _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 21:26:45 2000 From: "Ryan, Richard" To: "'Jason Simpson'" , Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:28:03 -0700 Subject: RE: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) S/BRAKE means "Speed Brake" When pulled at over 150mph it forces the trunk lid open to slow the car down. Dick Ryan ex. 24022 (650)312-4022 Risk Management Dept. SM 2000/2 FAX (650)312-5830 -----Original Message----- From: Jason Simpson [mailto:jason@xio.com] Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 4:10 PM To: Robin Krause Cc: mtyler@hctc.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) There are two controls on the dash I haven't figured out yet. One is the one just below the wiper control, second down on the far left of the dash. Here's a rough ASCII depiction of its label: \ | / \ | / |\ /| | \ \ / | | ) O ( | | / \ \ | |/ \| It appears to be a twist-only knob, and it seems to rotate perhaps a quarter-turn. The other control is labeled "S/BRAKE" on the center console next to the radio and, when pulled, illuminates a round red light with a "B" on the dash below and to the right of the fuel/temp/etc. gauges. What are these controls? -jrs From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 22:33:56 2000 From: "Mick T" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 04:33:11 GMT Subject: Re: Parts Questions - Thank you. Thanks everyone. I just wanted to make sure, before I started yanking pieces off. I did get a line on the hood cable also. Thanks. -Mick- >> >>Hi all, >> I'm in need of the hood release cable, and knob. The threads to my knob >>are stripped. Is this something I should try to get used? Has anyone >>priced >>something like this out from the dealer? Also, I'm having my hood worked >>on, >>and I'm not quite sure how to get the chrome trim (above the D a t s u n >>letters) off the hood. Is it glued on? >> >>-Mick- >>_________________________________________________________________________ >> >> > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 22:42:00 2000 From: David & Candy Pina To: "Ryan, Richard" , Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 21:45:54 -0700 Subject: Re: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) Yeah, speed brake is correct, and the other is the front impulse jets, a also for braking above 150. David Pina Starship Resource Liaison 701 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 22:57:48 2000 From: Mike Poorboy To: David & Candy Pina Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 22:00:34 -0700 Subject: Re: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) David, Would that be the windshield spray nozzles facing forward. Applied properly they act like a injected water speed brake. Mike David & Candy Pina wrote: > Yeah, speed brake is correct, and the other is the front impulse jets, a > also for braking above 150. > David Pina > Starship Resource Liaison 701 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 23 22:58:01 2000 From: Ronnie Day To: "Marc Sayer" Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 23:57:37 -0500 Subject: Re: Blow hole filter? >>Gordon Glasgow wrote: >> >> Mine's a K&N but I don't know the part number. It's been on there for years. Not really a good idea, >> BTW. It's good to have some vacuum to vent the cam cover. I only did mine because the aftermarket >> air cleaners didn't have a fitting for the hose. > >Gordon is right on about this. If your car wasn't originally designed >for venting the crankcase to atmosphere (i.e. it vented to the air >filter, a pcv system or some other low pressure or vacuum location) then >you really can't just stick a filter on the valve cover and call it >good. The reason is that the vent area will not be sufficient to prevent >pressure buildup in the crankcase without the vacuum. You need much more >vent area when venting to atmospheric pressure than you do when venting >to vacuum. I realize this was originally posted a couple of months ago, but I'm just now getting through the backlog. In addition to the little K&N breather tube filters (already mentioned) that I bought with the primary SU filters and velocity stacks, I also bought a couple of fittings that are designed to allow you to attach about a 3/4 (ID) hose to an air cleaner housing that didn't originally have fittings. Realizing that you might need to use a "T" and connect to the air cleaner base on both carbs in a dual (either SU or Solex) setup, would it be better to do run a vent hose from the valve cover to one or both of the A/C assemblies rather than using the small open element filter? I know the L-motors have a baffle inside the valve cover that blocks direct access to the outside, and I don't think there's any sort of valve or filter inline with the hose going to the stock air cleaner. The dump into the air cleaner housing is outside the filter element, if my memory is correct. How can we set this up using the open element style air cleaners? FWIW, Ron Ronnie Day ronday@home.com ------------------ Dallas/Ft. Worth ------------------ '71 510 2-dr (Prepared Class Autocrosser) '73 510 2-dr (Street Toy) From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 00:59:18 2000 From: "Victor Laury" To: Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 23:40:37 -0700 Subject: Percieved Perfomace Gain? Well. I finally broke down and got a 2'' exhaust system today. The guys down at Morse Mufflers did a phenomenal job and because of their efforts, there's no clanks bangs or squeaks. Just a deep, low THRUMM! All the stock hangers were used. A small "Thrush" brand turbo muffler went in the stock location. A very short Glass Pack replaced the resonator and my trumpet was cut to fit at the 2'' portion of it's diameter. I am very happy with the quality of the work done. Now, I swear I feel a performance gain! Especially in the lower RPM ranges. This may just be me. I know that whenever I do something that's been a major issue on my car, I feel like it run's better. Do you folks think this is possible? Does my car run better or am I crazy or both? Victor 70 SRL 31113136 Los Angeles http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=123073 SoCalROC http://www.ameri-eagle.com/datsun/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 05:14:41 2000 From: Steve Harvey To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 06:16:25 -0500 Subject: Hard top questions Hello list, I purchased a hard top for my 68 2000 this summer. The three locking hinges that were included are worn beyond help or restoration. Has anyone come up with a way of securing the top without using the stock hinges? I'm thinking of using a hardened bolt on a swivel hinge attached to the top and a slotted "U" shaped steel stopper on the windshield frame. A wing nut would be used to tighten the top to the windshield frame. Thanks Steve Harvey Milwaukee From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 06:31:38 2000 From: "Hall, Phillip" To: "'CalSpeed@aol.com'" , Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us, Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:34:14 -0500 Subject: RE: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) It can be used as a cruise control - on my '68 I used to set it in 2 nd gear at 2500 RPM and cruise to the hot springs on a dirt road as I sat on the roll bar and drove with my feet. Great way to enjoy the Idaho mountains:-) Phil SEROC -----Original Message----- From: CalSpeed@aol.com [SMTP:CalSpeed@aol.com] Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 7:08 PM To: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us; robinkrause@hotmail.com; jason@xio.com Cc: mtyler@hctc.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) << Well, if you haven't used them, you don't have to worry about them. What I hear is that most folks don't bother using the throttle at all. Mine is busted and it isn't missed. It allows you to pull the accelerator linkage, and a twist locks it so the engine can be revved higher. Dangerous to use it as a cruise control - don't consider that. >> Hello, I agree. It is not to be used as a cruise control although I did use it as that when I was driving through the desolate areas of AZ and NM two years ago. I remember setting it at around 75 or so and then just relaxing. Although everytime I went up and down an incline or dip on the highway the speed would change. Sometimes drastically. No... I dont recommend it to be used that way but it sure did come in handy that summer. Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 06:53:40 2000 From: "Ben Zech" To: Phillip.Hall@msfc.nasa.gov, CalSpeed@aol.com, Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us, Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:52:57 GMT Subject: RE: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) You are just way too coooool. BZ >From: "Hall, Phillip" >Reply-To: "Hall, Phillip" >To: "'CalSpeed@aol.com'" , Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us, >robinkrause@hotmail.com, jason@xio.com >CC: mtyler@hctc.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: RE: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) >Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:34:14 -0500 > >It can be used as a cruise control - on my '68 I used to set it in 2 nd >gear >at 2500 RPM and cruise to the hot springs on a dirt road as I sat on the >roll bar and drove with my feet. Great way to enjoy the Idaho >mountains:-) > >Phil >SEROC > > -----Original Message----- > From: CalSpeed@aol.com [SMTP:CalSpeed@aol.com] > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 7:08 PM > To: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us; robinkrause@hotmail.com; >jason@xio.com > Cc: mtyler@hctc.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) > > << Well, if you haven't used them, you don't have to worry about >them. What I > hear is that most folks don't bother using the throttle at all. >Mine is > busted and it isn't missed. It allows you to pull the accelerator >linkage, > and a twist locks it so the engine can be revved higher. Dangerous >to use > it as a cruise control - don't consider that. >> > > Hello, > > I agree. It is not to be used as a cruise control although I did >use it as > that when I was driving through the desolate areas of AZ and NM two >years > ago. I remember setting it at around 75 or so and then just >relaxing. > Although everytime I went up and down an incline or dip on the >highway the > speed would change. Sometimes drastically. > > No... I dont recommend it to be used that way but it sure did come >in handy > that summer. > > Calspeed _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 07:41:15 2000 From: "Patrick J. Horne" To: R Haug Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 08:40:49 -0500 Subject: Re: Grant Steering Wheel Adapter When I bought my wheel several years ago it came with an adapter #4581. The only troubles that I have had with the adapter is that the copper sheet that is the horn contact touched the steering column and needed to be ground away a little so it would clear. After a couple of years the horn became intermittent. It seems that the copper had worn away. I replaced the copper with a .010" brass sheet and reshaped the brush to be more rounded. It works fine now, check back with me in a few years! Peace, Pat -- - Support Habitat for Humanity, A "hand up", not a "hand out" - Pat Horne, Network Manager, Shop Supervisor, Future planner CS Dept, University of Texas, Austin, Tx. 78712 USA voice (512)471-9517, fax (512)471-8885 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 07:58:53 2000 From: Don Miller To: cccuds@ida.net Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 06:58:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Axles for a Datsun Hi Cal, I am in need to a set of axles. Do you have any laying around you can part with for a reasonable fee? I need to rebuild the rear end this winter for the disc brake conversion. Let me know. The race car is okay for this weekend so you can drive and not have to bring everything over from I.F. Do you need a garage to store your Vette while you are back east? The race car bay has room if you need it. Don __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 08:07:00 2000 From: "Eric R. Wittinger" To: Datsun Roadster Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:06:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Part number Hi LIst, I am after another part number: I am looking for the number for the cork valve cover gaskets for a 1600. also the cork gaskets for the feul bowls (SU's). the gaske for the feul pump, and water pump, oil pan, front timng chain cover.. there is list, I will probably think of more. thanks Eric ________________________________________________ | Eric R Wittinger | | Pacific Northwest National Laboratory | | NSD Radiological and Chemical Sciences Group | | Web page www.ee.pdx.edu/~wittiner | | Email wittiner@EE.pdx.edu | | Email (work) Eric.Wittinger@pnl.gov | ------------------------------------------------ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 09:16:13 2000 From: CarterCM@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:15:02 EDT Subject: Roadster Boneyard --part1_50.c88cf27.27270176_boundary Any Roadsterheads in the Indy area checked this out? Craig Carter In a message dated 10/24/00 5:13:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time, lwdent@fwi.com writes: <<...on I-69 and the junk yard is on the west side of the highway somewhere around Anderson, IN (south I think, perhaps 15 miles) There are no signs and I am not sure if it sells anything...Lots of Datsun roadsters, lots of strange looking stuff in there. >> --part1_50.c88cf27.27270176_boundary Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-za05.mx.aol.com (rly-za05.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.101]) by air-za04.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.19) with ESMTP; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 08:13:39 -0400 Received: from teamfat2.dsl.aros.net (teamfat2.dsl.aros.net [207.173.21.42]) by rly-za05.mx.aol.com (v76_r1.19) with ESMTP; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 08:13:01 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by teamfat2.dsl.aros.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9OCBOC04116 for vintage-race-actors; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 06:11:24 -0600 (MDT) X-Authentication-Warning: teamfat2.dsl.aros.net: majordom set sender to owner-vintage-race@Autox.Team.Net using -f Message-ID: <39F57D04.79A9AB89@fwi.com> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:14:00 -0500 From: lwdent X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-NSCPCD (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Gerald J. Brazil" CC: "'Wm. Severin Thompson'" , "'Mark Robert Brinker'" , vintage-race@autox.team.net Subject: Re: devin panhard References: <001e01c03d2e$765a6740$85b299d1@voyager.net> Sender: owner-vintage-race@autox.team.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: lwdent Wrong. It is I 69 and the junk yard is on the west side of the highway somewhere around Anderson (south I think, perhaps 15 miles) There are no signs and I am not sure if it sells anything as I have seen cars coming into the field for 20 years now and never have seen one parted out. Lots of Datsun roadsters, lots of strange looking stuff in there. I have the feeling that it is some kook that just buys old junk and wrecked cars and dumps them in his field. There may be a fence up now. I used to make that trip 2 to 3 times a month when I was working for 3M as much of my business was in Indy and I live in Fort Wayne. Retarded now so I don't go that way often. Good luck. L.D. --part1_50.c88cf27.27270176_boundary-- From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 09:31:50 2000 From: Alex Avery To: "Mick T" , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 10:50:37 -0400 Subject: Re: Parts Questions The trim on the front of the hood scoop (above the D A T S U N) is stainless steel, not chrome. It is held on with some mild crimps--just carefully pull it off and then polish it up. Mine was badly scratched from a bad previous paint job prepwork, so I used 200, 300, 400, 600, 800 grit sandpaper successively and then #0000 steel wool and aluminum polish. Looks like chrome now!! At 11:37 PM 10/23/00 +0000, Mick T wrote: >Hi all, > I'm in need of the hood release cable, and knob. The threads to my knob >are stripped. Is this something I should try to get used? Has anyone priced >something like this out from the dealer? Also, I'm having my hood worked on, >and I'm not quite sure how to get the chrome trim (above the D a t s u n >letters) off the hood. Is it glued on? > >-Mick- >_________________________________________________________________________ > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 09:45:51 2000 From: Mike Poorboy To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 08:48:12 -0700 Subject: Stroker engine List, I will be selling the R16 stroker engine I picked up this past week. I am going to need the money to rebuild my broken truck engine :-( Here are some pictures of it. http://www.nidlink.com/~bitterrootprop/head1.jpg http://www.nidlink.com/~bitterrootprop/head2.jpg http://www.nidlink.com/~bitterrootprop/crank.jpg http://www.nidlink.com/~bitterrootprop/block.jpg http://www.nidlink.com/~bitterrootprop/block.jpg http://www.nidlink.com/~bitterrootprop/piston.jpg I will figure out pricing this week and post it. Thanks, Mike Nowroc From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 09:57:26 2000 From: "Matt Peterson" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:56:34 GMT Subject: didn't quite get engine started Hi everyone, Well, I didn't get the engine started like I wanted to. I did almost get there though. I put in the radiator, alt, hoses, and hooked up all remaining wiring except the voltage reg. I couldn't figure that one out. The old alt has a four prong plug and a six prong reg. The alt from the L20b has a two prong alt and a six prong reg. I didn't have enough time to figure it out and I probably won't get another chance to work on it before it snows so I think it'll have to wait till spring:( Matt Peterson 68 1600 Zimmerman, MN _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 10:00:47 2000 From: Geegc@aol.com To: horne@cs.utexas.edu, haugchiro@moscow.com Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:58:56 EDT Subject: Re: Grant Steering Wheel Adapter I had a similar problem with two different adapters. One thing to get if you go with a grant is the pancake extender which is shorter than the regular adapter and keeps the wheel closer to the dash and the turn signal. Go to the Grant website and be careful, I think the earlies and later adapters are different. www.grantproducts.com Gary C 1966 1600 1968 2000 solex In a message dated 10/24/00 6:42:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time, horne@cs.utexas.edu writes: << When I bought my wheel several years ago it came with an adapter #4581. The only troubles that I have had with the adapter is that the copper sheet that is the horn contact touched the steering column and needed to be ground away a little so it would clear. After a couple of years the horn became intermittent. It seems that the copper had worn away. I replaced the copper with a .010" brass sheet and reshaped the brush to be more rounded. It works fine now, check back with me in a few years! Peace, Pat >> From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 10:21:03 2000 From: Jason Simpson To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 09:27:14 -0700 Subject: Re: Hard top questions Steve Harvey wrote: > > I purchased a hard top for my 68 2000 this summer. The three locking > hinges that were included are worn beyond help or restoration. Has > anyone come up with a way of securing the top without using the stock > hinges? My hard top is missing the latches/hinges and my window frame is missing two of the catches that they attach to (the right and left ones), so I too am looking for replacements or alternatives for mounting the top. Right now, the only thing that's holding it on are two eye-bolts on either side just behind the seat. Is there an illustration somewhere of how the hard top (or the soft top for that matter) is supposed to attach? Thanks. -jrs From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 10:32:45 2000 From: "Robin Krause" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 16:32:07 GMT Subject: 1600 Head Question I have two R16 heads and am hoping to combine the parts into one strong usable head. (Thank you Datsun Dave for that suggestion) While going over them at the machine shop, we noticed some strange things about the head that actually came out of my car. It had been significantly shaved, which was in itself not surprising, but the eyebrow shaped ridges next to the valves had been smoothed out, as well. My question is what is the "proper" head thickness for an R16 engine? If anyone also knows why the ridges would have been smoothed out too, that would be helpful. Thanks! Robin Krause 68 1600 _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 11:08:51 2000 From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us To: Phillip.Hall@msfc.nasa.gov, "Ben Zech" Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 09:51:37 -0700 Subject: Re[2]: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) Phil, yes way cool, hanging 10 in Idaho! Do you have one of those spinner thingees on the steering wheel? So yah can wrap your toes around it to spin the steering wheel on the twisties through the mountains? Now that's something I'd like to see in a roadster calendar! Fred - So.SF ________________________ Reply Separator ____________________________ Subject: RE: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) Author: "Ben Zech" Date: 10/24/2000 12:52 PM You are just way too coooool. BZ >From: "Hall, Phillip" >Reply-To: "Hall, Phillip" >To: "'CalSpeed@aol.com'" , Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us, >robinkrause@hotmail.com, jason@xio.com >CC: mtyler@hctc.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: RE: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) >Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:34:14 -0500 > >It can be used as a cruise control - on my '68 I used to set it in 2 nd >gear >at 2500 RPM and cruise to the hot springs on a dirt road as I sat on the >roll bar and drove with my feet. Great way to enjoy the Idaho >mountains:-) > >Phil >SEROC > > -----Original Message----- > From: CalSpeed@aol.com [SMTP:CalSpeed@aol.com] > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 7:08 PM > To: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us; robinkrause@hotmail.com; >jason@xio.com > Cc: mtyler@hctc.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) > > << Well, if you haven't used them, you don't have to worry about >them. What I > hear is that most folks don't bother using the throttle at all. >Mine is > busted and it isn't missed. It allows you to pull the accelerator >linkage, > and a twist locks it so the engine can be revved higher. Dangerous >to use > it as a cruise control - don't consider that. >> > > Hello, > > I agree. It is not to be used as a cruise control although I did >use it as > that when I was driving through the desolate areas of AZ and NM two >years > ago. I remember setting it at around 75 or so and then just >relaxing. > Although everytime I went up and down an incline or dip on the >highway the > speed would change. Sometimes drastically. > > No... I dont recommend it to be used that way but it sure did come >in handy > that summer. > > Calspeed _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 11:17:20 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: Phillip.Hall@msfc.nasa.gov, Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us, robinkrause@hotmail.com, Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 13:13:13 EDT Subject: Re: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) In a message dated 10/24/00 5:33:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Phillip.Hall@msfc.nasa.gov writes: << It can be used as a cruise control - on my '68 I used to set it in 2 nd gear at 2500 RPM and cruise to the hot springs on a dirt road as I sat on the roll bar and drove with my feet. Great way to enjoy the Idaho mountains:-) >> HEllo, THat is a great idea! Do you think it is possible with a low 'shield car with a small diameter steering wheel? Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 11:32:59 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: turbospl311@yahoo.com, cccuds@ida.net Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 13:16:57 EDT Subject: Re: Axles for a Datsun In a message dated 10/24/00 7:00:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time, turbospl311@yahoo.com writes: << Hi Cal, I am in need to a set of axles. Do you have any laying around you can part with... The race car is okay for this weekend so you can drive and not have to bring everything over from I.F. Do you need a garage to store your Vette while you are back east? Don >> Huh...? Are you talking to me? Calspeed? Or someone else maybe? Well, if it is me then I do have an axel that is sitting in my garage and you can have it. It may be alot to ship. Btw... the backing plate is still attached. Michael" Calspeed" Carion From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 11:58:07 2000 From: Ronnie Day To: "Victor Laury" , Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:56:35 -0500 Subject: Re: Perceived Performance Gain? >Now, I swear I feel a performance gain! Especially in the lower RPM ranges. >This may just be me. I know that whenever I do something that's been a major >issue on my car, I feel like it run's better. > >Do you folks think this is possible? Does my car run better or am I crazy or >both? Maybe a little of both? I'd say it's a safe bet that the new system lowers back pressure considerably (compared to stock), it may also be generally promoting mixture flow by scavenging the burnt gases from the combustion chamber, and it probably has the net effect of leaning your mixture a bit. If the mixture was a bit rich before, it may be happier now. It's probably a good idea to put in new plugs and keep an eye on the insulator color. You might gain further by richening the mixture to take advantage of the better flowing exhaust. Best way to quantify all of these possibilities would be to do before and after dyno tests, but I doubt that many of us have that sort of access. Wonder if these G-Tech gadgets really work as advertised? At the price ($180?), if they really work, they're worth considering for individuals, certainly for a group. One modification that I'm surprised I don't hear about more is swapping in a later model breakerless distributor. I know when we get another 2000, that'll be high on the to do list. I'll keep the OEM unit in case I want to do shows or some such, but for daily use the EI units are the only way to go, IMHO. That is unless you want to spring for a crankfire setup. But that's another story. FWIW, Ron Ronnie Day ronday@home.com ------------------ Dallas/Ft. Worth ------------------ '71 510 2-dr (Prepared Class Autocrosser) '73 510 2-dr (Street Toy) From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 12:03:26 2000 From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com To: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 10:54:31 -0700 Subject: Re: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) My Dad used to have one of those on the steering wheel of his big ol' Ford pickup back when I was lad - "Okie power steering". They're illegal now, in California at least - why I have no idea. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us wrote: > [snip] Do you have one of those spinner > thingees on the steering wheel? [snip] > > Fred - So.SF > > ________________________ Reply Separator ____________________________ > Subject: RE: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) > Author: "Ben Zech" > Date: 10/24/2000 12:52 PM > > You are just way too coooool. > BZ > > > >From: "Hall, Phillip" > >Reply-To: "Hall, Phillip" > >To: "'CalSpeed@aol.com'" , Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us, > >robinkrause@hotmail.com, jason@xio.com > >CC: mtyler@hctc.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > >Subject: RE: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) > >Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:34:14 -0500 > > > >It can be used as a cruise control - on my '68 I used to set it in 2 nd > >gear > >at 2500 RPM and cruise to the hot springs on a dirt road as I sat on the > >roll bar and drove with my feet. Great way to enjoy the Idaho > >mountains:-) > > > >Phil > >SEROC > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: CalSpeed@aol.com [SMTP:CalSpeed@aol.com] > > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 7:08 PM > > To: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us; robinkrause@hotmail.com; > >jason@xio.com > > Cc: mtyler@hctc.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) > > > > << Well, if you haven't used them, you don't have to worry about > >them. What I > > hear is that most folks don't bother using the throttle at all. > >Mine is > > busted and it isn't missed. It allows you to pull the accelerator > >linkage, > > and a twist locks it so the engine can be revved higher. Dangerous > >to use > > it as a cruise control - don't consider that. >> > > > > Hello, > > > > I agree. It is not to be used as a cruise control although I did > >use it as > > that when I was driving through the desolate areas of AZ and NM two > >years > > ago. I remember setting it at around 75 or so and then just > >relaxing. > > Although everytime I went up and down an incline or dip on the > >highway the > > speed would change. Sometimes drastically. > > > > No... I dont recommend it to be used that way but it sure did come > >in handy > > that summer. > > > > Calspeed > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 12:21:15 2000 From: "Ryan, Richard" To: Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:19:00 -0700 Subject: RE: Re[2]: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) OK, OK Here's my hand throttle story. We had a '67 Alfa Duetto Spider back in NY. One winter morning on the way to work I stuffed it into a snow bank in our apartment complex. It wouldn't back out due to the ice and snow under the rear wheels. Bright idea--Put it in reverse, pull out the hand throttle a little so the wheels will spin in reverse, then get out and push the rear end of the Alfa sideways until the spinning tires found some clear pavement. It worked great. That's when I realized it was backing down the street with no one in it. Luckily it backed into a snow bank on the other side of the street and not into a parked car. Dick Ryan ex. 24022 (650)312-4022 Risk Management Dept. SM 2000/2 FAX (650)312-5830 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 12:28:50 2000 From: Marc Tyler To: "Ray Cole" , "datsunmike" , Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 13:34:43 -0500 Subject: Re: Parts Questions Ray Cole wrote >Careful! > >The ends of that chrome piece have been known to scratch the hood (speaking >from experience). > >Ray I put some masking tape under the ends of the piece during reinstallation just in case. Seemed to work. Marc T. ========================================================================== Marc Tyler TDROC 1970 1600 #SPL311-31016 1965 L-320 #L320 013642 (the misspent ute) http://datsun_marc.tripod.com/cgi-bin/Datsun_homepage.html Sisterdale TX From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 12:30:31 2000 From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:18:37 -0700 Subject: Top-down weather It's beautiful weather here in the SF Bay Area, clear and 75 degrees, and I drove my '66 Loosie into work. I saw a bunch of convertibles, all with the tops up. BMW's, Miatas, etc. Even passed a top-up Alfa Romeo and the guy gave me a sheepish grin as I passed him. My Loosie is top-down and happy that way! What is it with these people who buy convertibles and keep the tops up? And most of them have electric tops. Geesh. Fred - So.SF, enjoying the ride (it ain't winter yet!) BADROC '66 2L "Loosie" From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 12:30:57 2000 From: "Brian St. Jacques" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:27:29 -0700 Subject: Re: 1600 Head Question They may have been removing some material from the combustion chamber to get the compression ratio lower after shaving the head. At 09:32 AM 10/24/2000, Robin Krause wrote: >I have two R16 heads and am hoping to combine the parts into one strong >usable head. (Thank you Datsun Dave for that suggestion) While going over >them at the machine shop, we noticed some strange things about the head that >actually came out of my car. It had been significantly shaved, which was in >itself not surprising, but the eyebrow shaped ridges next to the valves had >been smoothed out, as well. > >My question is what is the "proper" head thickness for an R16 engine? If >anyone also knows why the ridges would have been smoothed out too, that >would be helpful. > >Thanks! >Robin Krause >68 1600 >_________________________________________________________________________ > Brian '68 1600 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 12:31:43 2000 From: "Mike=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=A0?=Adams" To: , Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 13:30:45 -0500 Subject: Re: Roadster Boneyard The roadsters were outside Anderson on the lop but they aren't there anymore unless they have been moved. Mike ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: CarterCM@aol.com Reply-To: CarterCM@aol.com Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:15:02 EDT > >--part1_50.c88cf27.27270176_boundary > >Any Roadsterheads in the Indy area checked this out? > >Craig Carter > >In a message dated 10/24/00 5:13:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time, lwdent@fwi.com >writes: > ><<...on I-69 and the junk yard is on the west side of the highway > somewhere around Anderson, IN (south I think, perhaps 15 miles) There are no > signs and I am not sure if it sells anything...Lots of Datsun roadsters, >lots of strange looking stuff in there. >> > > >--part1_50.c88cf27.27270176_boundary >Content-Disposition: inline > >Return-Path: >Received: from rly-za05.mx.aol.com (rly-za05.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.101]) by air-za04.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.19) with ESMTP; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 08:13:39 -0400 >Received: from teamfat2.dsl.aros.net (teamfat2.dsl.aros.net [207.173.21.42]) by rly-za05.mx.aol.com (v76_r1.19) with ESMTP; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 08:13:01 -0400 >Received: (from majordom@localhost) > by teamfat2.dsl.aros.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9OCBOC04116 > for vintage-race-actors; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 06:11:24 -0600 (MDT) >X-Authentication-Warning: teamfat2.dsl.aros.net: majordom set sender to owner-vintage-race@Autox.Team.Net using -f >Message-ID: <39F57D04.79A9AB89@fwi.com> >Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:14:00 -0500 >From: lwdent >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-NSCPCD (Macintosh; U; PPC) >X-Accept-Language: en >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: "Gerald J. Brazil" >CC: "'Wm. Severin Thompson'" , > "'Mark Robert Brinker'" , > vintage-race@autox.team.net >Subject: Re: devin panhard >References: <001e01c03d2e$765a6740$85b299d1@voyager.net> >Sender: owner-vintage-race@autox.team.net >Precedence: bulk >Reply-To: lwdent > >Wrong. It is I 69 and the junk yard is on the west side of the highway >somewhere around Anderson (south I think, perhaps 15 miles) There are no >signs and I am not sure if it sells anything as I have seen cars coming >into the field for 20 years now and never have seen one parted out. > >Lots of Datsun roadsters, lots of strange looking stuff in there. I >have the feeling that it is some kook that just buys old junk and >wrecked cars and dumps them in his field. There may be a fence up now. >I used to make that trip 2 to 3 times a month when I was working for 3M >as much of my business was in Indy and I live in Fort Wayne. Retarded >now so I don't go that way often. > >Good luck. > >L.D. > > >--part1_50.c88cf27.27270176_boundary-- > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 12:53:05 2000 From: Robert.Long@CSDInc.com To: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:54:29 -0600 Subject: RE: Top-down weather You know, it didn't rain once while my tranny was being rebuilt, but now that I got it fixed, it's been pouring everyday. Geesh. Robert - 67.5 1600 - Abq (or is it Seattle?) -----Original Message----- From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us [mailto:Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 12:19 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Top-down weather It's beautiful weather here in the SF Bay Area, clear and 75 degrees, and I drove my '66 Loosie into work. I saw a bunch of convertibles, all with the tops up. BMW's, Miatas, etc. Even passed a top-up Alfa Romeo and the guy gave me a sheepish grin as I passed him. My Loosie is top-down and happy that way! What is it with these people who buy convertibles and keep the tops up? And most of them have electric tops. Geesh. Fred - So.SF, enjoying the ride (it ain't winter yet!) BADROC '66 2L "Loosie" From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 13:00:24 2000 From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us To: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:40:36 -0700 Subject: Re[2]: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) I didn't know they're illegal here. In the old days all the teenagers had them. As long as we're reminiscing, one of my memories of being a kid is my Dad throwing his arm out in front of me every time he'd hit the brakes to slow down for an intersection. His '54 Chevy and '59 Rambler had no seatbelts, they weren't required back then. I was afraid he was going to get a little close and clobber me with his arm, but it never happened. No airbags, no seatbelts, no headrests, kids climbing all over the seats. My Dad briefly had a Ford convertible, and me and my sisters would sit up with our rears on the trunk and our feet over the seatbacks while he drove. I think our parents generation had way more fun with cars! Fred ____________________ Reply Separator _____________________ Subject: Re: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) Author: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com Date: 10/24/2000 10:54 AM My Dad used to have one of those on the steering wheel of his big ol' Ford pickup back when I was lad - "Okie power steering". They're illegal now, in California at least - why I have no idea. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us wrote: > [snip] Do you have one of those spinner > thingees on the steering wheel? [snip] > > Fred - So.SF > > ________________________ Reply Separator ____________________________ > Subject: RE: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) > Author: "Ben Zech" > Date: 10/24/2000 12:52 PM > > You are just way too coooool. > BZ > > > >From: "Hall, Phillip" > >Reply-To: "Hall, Phillip" > >To: "'CalSpeed@aol.com'" , Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us, > >robinkrause@hotmail.com, jason@xio.com > >CC: mtyler@hctc.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > >Subject: RE: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) > >Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:34:14 -0500 > > > >It can be used as a cruise control - on my '68 I used to set it in 2 nd > >gear > >at 2500 RPM and cruise to the hot springs on a dirt road as I sat on the > >roll bar and drove with my feet. Great way to enjoy the Idaho > >mountains:-) > > > >Phil > >SEROC > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: CalSpeed@aol.com [SMTP:CalSpeed@aol.com] > > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 7:08 PM > > To: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us; robinkrause@hotmail.com; > >jason@xio.com > > Cc: mtyler@hctc.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) > > > > << Well, if you haven't used them, you don't have to worry about > >them. What I > > hear is that most folks don't bother using the throttle at all. > >Mine is > > busted and it isn't missed. It allows you to pull the accelerator > >linkage, > > and a twist locks it so the engine can be revved higher. Dangerous > >to use > > it as a cruise control - don't consider that. >> > > > > Hello, > > > > I agree. It is not to be used as a cruise control although I did > >use it as > > that when I was driving through the desolate areas of AZ and NM two > >years > > ago. I remember setting it at around 75 or so and then just > >relaxing. > > Although everytime I went up and down an incline or dip on the > >highway the > > speed would change. Sometimes drastically. > > > > No... I dont recommend it to be used that way but it sure did come > >in handy > > that summer. > > > > Calspeed > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 13:24:58 2000 From: ken ogi To: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:37:43 -0700 Subject: Re: Top-down weather Hi Fred .../list it's also a beautiful day here in san diego :) life is beautiful when we are able to drive our roadsters with the tops-down :) i don't know whatz up with those other guys with their tops-up?!? it must be something about their convertibles that makes them seek for shelter. Ken - So. Cal, also Enjoying the Ride (what season is it anyway?) SoCalRoc Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us wrote: > It's beautiful weather here in the SF Bay Area, clear and 75 degrees, and I > drove my '66 Loosie into work. I saw a bunch of convertibles, all with the > tops up. BMW's, Miatas, etc. Even passed a top-up Alfa Romeo and the guy > gave me a sheepish grin as I passed him. My Loosie is top-down and happy > that way! What is it with these people who buy convertibles and keep the > tops up? And most of them have electric tops. Geesh. > > Fred - So.SF, enjoying the ride (it ain't winter yet!) > BADROC > '66 2L "Loosie" > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 13:39:51 2000 From: Jason Simpson To: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:46:26 -0700 Subject: Re: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us wrote: > > Do you have one of those spinner > thingees on the steering wheel? So yah can wrap your toes around it to spin > the steering wheel on the twisties through the mountains? My dad calls them 'suicide knobs' -- he's got one on his '48 Willy's Jeep, and I believe they are also illegal here in Washington state. -jrs -- No user serviceable parts inside. From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 13:42:36 2000 From: To: Ofarrell.Fergus@hitco.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 14:41:45 -0500 Subject: Rear Shackles My rear shackles are upside down. It raises the rear a bit, but I kinda like the look. The ride is pretty decent, but my cornering speeds are down. I will change it whenever my piggybank allows me to get comp. springs and decent shocks. <> <> From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 14:11:14 2000 From: "Hall, Phillip" To: "'Chris.Brucciani@ercgroup.com'" , Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:13:56 -0500 Subject: RE: Rear Shackles Yea - your just showing more wheel to distract attention from those MG tail lights:-) Some women have a version of this...... -----Original Message----- From: Chris.Brucciani@ercgroup.com [SMTP:Chris.Brucciani@ercgroup.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 2:42 PM To: Ofarrell.Fergus@hitco.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Rear Shackles My rear shackles are upside down. It raises the rear a bit, but I kinda like the look. The ride is pretty decent, but my cornering speeds are down. I will change it whenever my piggybank allows me to get comp. springs and decent shocks. <> <> From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 14:16:19 2000 From: "Hall, Phillip" To: "Roadsters (E-mail 2)" , Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:04:00 -0500 Subject: SEROC at RA pictures Hey gang - I just got my pictures up of SEROC at Road Atlanta. First time I did the photopoint thing so I hope it works out. RA was one great time!!! http://albums.photopoint.com/j/albumindex?u=1286599&a=9550744 boy I hope this works - I would hate to type that in again! Phil SEROC From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 14:51:15 2000 From: "Kyle Hagemann" To: , Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 13:46:49 -0700 Subject: Re: Top-down weather > It's beautiful weather here in the SF Bay Area, clear and 75 degrees, and I > drove my '66 Loosie into work. I saw a bunch of convertibles, all with the > tops up. BMW's, Miatas, etc. Even passed a top-up Alfa Romeo and the guy > gave me a sheepish grin as I passed him. My Loosie is top-down and happy > that way! What is it with these people who buy convertibles and keep the > tops up? And most of them have electric tops. Geesh. > > Fred - So.SF, enjoying the ride (it ain't winter yet!) > BADROC > '66 2L "Loosie" Right on, Fred! I'm up in Santa Rosa, where it's also been absolutely GLORIOUS! Gotta agree, I see those top-up posers all over the place. What the h*ll ya bought a 'vert for, screwballs?!!?!?!? Must've been hankering for a blind spot? Drove the Toad to work every day last week, and I'm 2fer2 this week:-D Lovin it while it lasts- Kyle '69 2000 "The Toad" see new pics at http://www.sonic.net/~kyle/srl.html From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 15:23:31 2000 From: "Laury, Victor" To: "'Hall, Phillip'" , Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 14:20:50 -0700 Subject: RE: SEROC at RA pictures Nice Report Phil, and good photos. It's nice to be able to put faces on already familiar names. Some how, there's got to be a way to get Chris a set of PROPER TAIL LIGHTS!! Victor 70 SRL 31113136 Los Angeles http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=123073 SoCalROC http://www.ameri-eagle.com/datsun/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 15:34:37 2000 From: "Hall, Phillip" To: "'Laury, Victor'" Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 16:36:34 -0500 Subject: RE: SEROC at RA pictures NO kidding - those lights make his Roadster look......not quit right. I am going to check my extra stuff and see if I have one or two to donate. The PO cut the metal between the lights, so Chris will have to repaint after the fix- much to the delight of his wife -pink is not her color:-) Phil -----Original Message----- From: Laury, Victor [SMTP:LauryV@MTA.NET] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 4:21 PM To: 'Hall, Phillip'; Roadsters (E-mail) Subject: RE: SEROC at RA pictures Nice Report Phil, and good photos. It's nice to be able to put faces on already familiar names. Some how, there's got to be a way to get Chris a set of PROPER TAIL LIGHTS!! Victor 70 SRL 31113136 Los Angeles http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=123073 SoCalROC http://www.ameri-eagle.com/datsun/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 15:56:10 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Ryan, Richard" , "'Jason Simpson'" , Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 17:49:55 -0400 Subject: Re: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) Rich, Kinda like the Chapparel?????? Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Ryan, Richard To: 'Jason Simpson' ; Robin Krause Cc: ; Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 11:28 PM Subject: RE: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) > S/BRAKE means "Speed Brake" When pulled at over 150mph it forces the trunk > lid open to slow the car down. > > Dick Ryan ex. 24022 > (650)312-4022 > Risk Management Dept. > SM 2000/2 > FAX (650)312-5830 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason Simpson [mailto:jason@xio.com] > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 4:10 PM > To: Robin Krause > Cc: mtyler@hctc.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) > > > > There are two controls on the dash I haven't figured out yet. > > One is the one just below the wiper control, second down on the far left > of the dash. Here's a rough ASCII depiction of its label: > > \ | / > \ | / > |\ /| > | \ \ / | > | ) O ( | > | / \ \ | > |/ \| > > It appears to be a twist-only knob, and it seems to rotate perhaps a > quarter-turn. > > The other control is labeled "S/BRAKE" on the center console next to the > radio and, when pulled, illuminates a round red light with a "B" on the > dash below and to the right of the fuel/temp/etc. gauges. > > What are these controls? > > -jrs From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 16:53:52 2000 From: "Stephen McCartney" To: Robert.Long@CSDInc.com Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 22:53:22 GMT Subject: RE: Top-down weather Yep, know how you feel. We've had fantastic weather here in Melbourne, but my Ladybird (wife calls it that - red & black little predator!) has been missing badly (overdue for tune and service). Now I've had that done, and the steering tightened (spindle bolt coming loose), clutch adjusted, and it's been constant rain for 3 days! Sucks big time. But Fred, I know what you mean. Guys in Porsche Boxters, BMW Z's etc. all with roofs up on sunny days! WTF?? Me, I define the weather now as being a top-down or not top-down day. Basically, that means it's gotta be either raining or VERY cold to be a not top-down day. >From: Robert.Long@CSDInc.com >Reply-To: Robert.Long@CSDInc.com >To: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: RE: Top-down weather >Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:54:29 -0600 > >You know, it didn't rain once while my tranny was being rebuilt, but now >that I got it fixed, it's been pouring everyday. Geesh. > >Robert - 67.5 1600 - Abq (or is it Seattle?) > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 17:11:03 2000 From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us To: "'Laury; Victor'" , Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:54:20 -0700 Subject: Re[2]: SEROC at RA pictures Hey Dan Neuman, Will Irene like pink to go with your new tail lights on your Datillac? That's one color we don't have in our club! Fred - So.SF BADROC (Just kidding, white is nice!) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: SEROC at RA pictures Author: "Hall; Phillip" at ~ctl-internet-po Date: 10/24/2000 4:36 PM NO kidding - those lights make his Roadster look......not quit right. I am going to check my extra stuff and see if I have one or two to donate. The PO cut the metal between the lights, so Chris will have to repaint after the fix- much to the delight of his wife -pink is not her color:-) Phil -----Original Message----- From: Laury, Victor [SMTP:LauryV@MTA.NET] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 4:21 PM To: 'Hall, Phillip'; Roadsters (E-mail) Subject: RE: SEROC at RA pictures Nice Report Phil, and good photos. It's nice to be able to put faces on already familiar names. Some how, there's got to be a way to get Chris a set of PROPER TAIL LIGHTS!! Victor 70 SRL 31113136 Los Angeles http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=123073 SoCalROC http://www.ameri-eagle.com/datsun/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 17:23:15 2000 From: "Ben Zech" To: Phillip.Hall@msfc.nasa.gov, Datsunroadsters@onelist.com, Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 23:22:37 GMT Subject: Re: SEROC at RA pictures Great pictures Phil........ >From: "Hall, Phillip" >Reply-To: "Hall, Phillip" >To: "Roadsters (E-mail 2)" , "Roadsters >(E-mail)" >Subject: SEROC at RA pictures >Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:04:00 -0500 > >Hey gang - > >I just got my pictures up of SEROC at Road Atlanta. First time I did the >photopoint thing so I hope it works out. > >RA was one great time!!! > >http://albums.photopoint.com/j/albumindex?u=1286599&a=9550744 > boy I >hope this works - I would hate to type that in again! > >Phil >SEROC _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 18:03:04 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Ryan, Richard" Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 19:57:43 -0400 Subject: Re: Re[2]: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) Rich, Risk Management!!!!! You have the right profession!!!!!! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Ryan, Richard Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 2:19 PM Subject: RE: Re[2]: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) > OK, OK Here's my hand throttle story. > > We had a '67 Alfa Duetto Spider back in NY. One winter morning on the way > to work I stuffed it into a snow bank in our apartment complex. It wouldn't > back out due to the ice and snow under the rear wheels. > > Bright idea--Put it in reverse, pull out the hand throttle a little so the > wheels will spin in reverse, then get out and push the rear end of the Alfa > sideways until the spinning tires found some clear pavement. > > It worked great. That's when I realized it was backing down the street with > no one in it. Luckily it backed into a snow bank on the other side of the > street and not into a parked car. > > Dick Ryan ex. 24022 > (650)312-4022 > Risk Management Dept. > SM 2000/2 > FAX (650)312-5830 > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 18:08:50 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Ryan, Richard" Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 20:02:59 -0400 Subject: Re: Re[2]: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) Fred, You bet!!!!! None of those stinkin regulations!!!!!! The right to grossly pollute is an inalienable right of every American. Whoops, we do that now with Excursions! Mike (who never wears seatbelts in the Roadster) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 2:40 PM Subject: Re[2]: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) > I didn't know they're illegal here. In the old days all the teenagers had > them. > > As long as we're reminiscing, one of my memories of being a kid is my Dad > throwing his arm out in front of me every time he'd hit the brakes to slow > down for an intersection. His '54 Chevy and '59 Rambler had no seatbelts, > they weren't required back then. I was afraid he was going to get a little > close and clobber me with his arm, but it never happened. No airbags, no > seatbelts, no headrests, kids climbing all over the seats. My Dad briefly > had a Ford convertible, and me and my sisters would sit up with our rears > on the trunk and our feet over the seatbacks while he drove. > > I think our parents generation had way more fun with cars! > > Fred > > ____________________ Reply Separator _____________________ > Subject: Re: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) > Author: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com > Date: 10/24/2000 10:54 AM > > > My Dad used to have one of those on the steering wheel of his big ol' Ford > pickup back > when I was lad - "Okie power steering". They're illegal now, in California at > least - why > I have no idea. > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > > Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us wrote: > > > [snip] Do you have one of those spinner > > thingees on the steering wheel? [snip] > > > > Fred - So.SF > > > > ________________________ Reply Separator ____________________________ > > Subject: RE: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) > > Author: "Ben Zech" > > Date: 10/24/2000 12:52 PM > > > > You are just way too coooool. > > BZ > > > > > > >From: "Hall, Phillip" > > >Reply-To: "Hall, Phillip" > > >To: "'CalSpeed@aol.com'" , Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us, > > >robinkrause@hotmail.com, jason@xio.com > > >CC: mtyler@hctc.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > >Subject: RE: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) > > >Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:34:14 -0500 > > > > > >It can be used as a cruise control - on my '68 I used to set it in 2 nd > > >gear > > >at 2500 RPM and cruise to the hot springs on a dirt road as I sat on the > > >roll bar and drove with my feet. Great way to enjoy the Idaho > > >mountains:-) > > > > > >Phil > > >SEROC > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: CalSpeed@aol.com [SMTP:CalSpeed@aol.com] > > > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 7:08 PM > > > To: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us; robinkrause@hotmail.com; > > >jason@xio.com > > > Cc: mtyler@hctc.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > > Subject: Re: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) > > > > > > << Well, if you haven't used them, you don't have to worry about > > >them. What I > > > hear is that most folks don't bother using the throttle at all. > > >Mine is > > > busted and it isn't missed. It allows you to pull the accelerator > > >linkage, > > > and a twist locks it so the engine can be revved higher. Dangerous > > >to use > > > it as a cruise control - don't consider that. >> > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I agree. It is not to be used as a cruise control although I did > > >use it as > > > that when I was driving through the desolate areas of AZ and NM two > > >years > > > ago. I remember setting it at around 75 or so and then just > > >relaxing. > > > Although everytime I went up and down an incline or dip on the > > >highway the > > > speed would change. Sometimes drastically. > > > > > > No... I dont recommend it to be used that way but it sure did come > > >in handy > > > that summer. > > > > > > Calspeed > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 18:13:41 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Stephen McCartney" , Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 20:08:19 -0400 Subject: Re: Top-down weather It's been sweet in NY too. It's mahvalous to drop the top in the fall with all the great colors and the flocks of birds overhead going south. Too bad too many rag toppers drive with their top up on such glorious days. Don't understand it. I drive topless whenever weather permits. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen McCartney To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 6:53 PM Subject: RE: Top-down weather > Yep, know how you feel. We've had fantastic weather here in Melbourne, but > my Ladybird (wife calls it that - red & black little predator!) has been > missing badly (overdue for tune and service). Now I've had that done, and > the steering tightened (spindle bolt coming loose), clutch adjusted, and > it's been constant rain for 3 days! Sucks big time. > But Fred, I know what you mean. Guys in Porsche Boxters, BMW Z's etc. all > with roofs up on sunny days! WTF?? Me, I define the weather now as being a > top-down or not top-down day. Basically, that means it's gotta be either > raining or VERY cold to be a not top-down day. > > > >From: Robert.Long@CSDInc.com > >Reply-To: Robert.Long@CSDInc.com > >To: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > >Subject: RE: Top-down weather > >Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:54:29 -0600 > > > >You know, it didn't rain once while my tranny was being rebuilt, but now > >that I got it fixed, it's been pouring everyday. Geesh. > > > >Robert - 67.5 1600 - Abq (or is it Seattle?) > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 18:28:30 2000 From: "Lehinger" To: =?iso-8859-1?B?TWlrZaBBZGFtcw==?= , Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 19:27:59 -0500 Subject: RE: Roadster Boneyard Been there... At the last time (3 yrs ago) the guy would not sell ANYTHING.... "All these cars are gonna be worth BIG bucks sometime".... If they don't rust out b4. I even talked to friends that lived there, his relatives, etc....no budge. then about 1 yr ago I drive by & they are all gone.... Maybe the city got after him and had them all junked... No clues. I can try to check again. He had "sections" - Datsun, Triumpth, Citreon, etc, etc.... 100s of each. Lee Ehinger Ft Wayne IN -----Original Message----- From: owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Mike Adams Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 1:31 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net; CarterCM@aol.com Subject: Re: Roadster Boneyard The roadsters were outside Anderson on the lop but they aren't there anymore unless they have been moved. Mike ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: CarterCM@aol.com Reply-To: CarterCM@aol.com Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:15:02 EDT > >--part1_50.c88cf27.27270176_boundary > >Any Roadsterheads in the Indy area checked this out? > >Craig Carter > >In a message dated 10/24/00 5:13:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time, lwdent@fwi.com >writes: > ><<...on I-69 and the junk yard is on the west side of the highway > somewhere around Anderson, IN (south I think, perhaps 15 miles) There are no > signs and I am not sure if it sells anything...Lots of Datsun roadsters, >lots of strange looking stuff in there. >> > > >--part1_50.c88cf27.27270176_boundary >Content-Disposition: inline > >Return-Path: >Received: from rly-za05.mx.aol.com (rly-za05.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.101]) by air-za04.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.19) with ESMTP; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 08:13:39 -0400 >Received: from teamfat2.dsl.aros.net (teamfat2.dsl.aros.net [207.173.21.42]) by rly-za05.mx.aol.com (v76_r1.19) with ESMTP; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 08:13:01 -0400 >Received: (from majordom@localhost) > by teamfat2.dsl.aros.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9OCBOC04116 > for vintage-race-actors; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 06:11:24 -0600 (MDT) >X-Authentication-Warning: teamfat2.dsl.aros.net: majordom set sender to owner-vintage-race@Autox.Team.Net using -f >Message-ID: <39F57D04.79A9AB89@fwi.com> >Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:14:00 -0500 >From: lwdent >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-NSCPCD (Macintosh; U; PPC) >X-Accept-Language: en >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: "Gerald J. Brazil" >CC: "'Wm. Severin Thompson'" , > "'Mark Robert Brinker'" , > vintage-race@autox.team.net >Subject: Re: devin panhard >References: <001e01c03d2e$765a6740$85b299d1@voyager.net> >Sender: owner-vintage-race@autox.team.net >Precedence: bulk >Reply-To: lwdent > >Wrong. It is I 69 and the junk yard is on the west side of the highway >somewhere around Anderson (south I think, perhaps 15 miles) There are no >signs and I am not sure if it sells anything as I have seen cars coming >into the field for 20 years now and never have seen one parted out. > >Lots of Datsun roadsters, lots of strange looking stuff in there. I >have the feeling that it is some kook that just buys old junk and >wrecked cars and dumps them in his field. There may be a fence up now. >I used to make that trip 2 to 3 times a month when I was working for 3M >as much of my business was in Indy and I live in Fort Wayne. Retarded >now so I don't go that way often. > >Good luck. > >L.D. > > >--part1_50.c88cf27.27270176_boundary-- > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 18:28:57 2000 From: "Charles Hubbard" To: "Datsun Roadster Mailing List \(E-mail\)" Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 19:22:33 -0500 Subject: 1500 Throttle Shaft Does anyone have a new throttle shaft for a 1500 SU carburetor? It's for the front Carb. It's exactly 4 inches long. I bought 2 new short ones (3.75") and was going to put them in just to make sure that I had nice new shafts. I tore up the front one while drilling the butterfly screws out of it. Had I bothered to measure it first. I would have discovered that it just happens to be 1/4 longer than the back one. But wait...it gets better. Come to find out, it's a hard to find part! If any of you has a spare to sell, I would be more than happy to take it off your hands. Charlie Charles Hubbard 1964 SPL310 Flower Mound, TX http://members.home.net/cehubbard/tdroc/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 19:49:30 2000 From: Marc Tyler To: "Ryan, Richard" Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 20:55:09 -0500 Subject: RE: Re[2]: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) Ryan, Richard wrote >OK, OK Here's my hand throttle story. > >We had a '67 Alfa Duetto Spider back in NY. One winter morning on the way >to work I stuffed it into a snow bank in our apartment complex. It wouldn't >back out due to the ice and snow under the rear wheels. > >Bright idea--Put it in reverse, pull out the hand throttle a little so the >wheels will spin in reverse, then get out and push the rear end of the Alfa >sideways until the spinning tires found some clear pavement. > >It worked great. That's when I realized it was backing down the street with >no one in it. Luckily it backed into a snow bank on the other side of the >street and not into a parked car. Is this what inspired you to go into the Risk Management field? ;-) Marc T. From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 20:03:04 2000 From: "Pam & Paul Bauman" To: "Roadster List" Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 18:59:40 -0700 Subject: tow truck blues Well, it appears that the last nail in the Doheny coffin got nailed in today. Have been fighting an insane 12-hour day work schedule, a real doozy of a cold and now a late tow truck driver! Set up for 9AM, arrived at noon. The beast is languishing at the muffler shop till tomorrow and it looks like there is just too much to do to get her running B4 Saturday. Non-Roadster life do take a bite, don't she :-/ Gee, the garage looks so empty... Paul Bauman Westminster, CA 67 1600 http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=881168&a=6499541 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 20:31:56 2000 From: weisner To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 02:30:24 -0700 Subject: Re: Roadster Boneyard weisner wrote: > > Years ago there was a whole row of roadsters there. Last year > all I could see was a few V-dubs and such. I have never been able to > find out who ran the place, but I was told he was hard to deal with. > Kurt Weisner > Seymour Indiana > (2 hours from Anderson) > > CarterCM@aol.com wrote: > > > > --part1_50.c88cf27.27270176_boundary > > > > Any Roadsterheads in the Indy area checked this out? > > > > Craig Carter > > > > In a message dated 10/24/00 5:13:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time, lwdent@fwi.com > > writes: > > > > <<...on I-69 and the junk yard is on the west side of the highway > > somewhere around Anderson, IN (south I think, perhaps 15 miles) There are no > > signs and I am not sure if it sells anything...Lots of Datsun roadsters, > > lots of strange looking stuff in there. >> > > > > --part1_50.c88cf27.27270176_boundary > > Content-Disposition: inline > > > > Return-Path: > > Received: from rly-za05.mx.aol.com (rly-za05.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.101]) by air-za04.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.19) with ESMTP; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 08:13:39 -0400 > > Received: from teamfat2.dsl.aros.net (teamfat2.dsl.aros.net [207.173.21.42]) by rly-za05.mx.aol.com (v76_r1.19) with ESMTP; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 08:13:01 -0400 > > Received: (from majordom@localhost) > > by teamfat2.dsl.aros.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9OCBOC04116 > > for vintage-race-actors; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 06:11:24 -0600 (MDT) > > X-Authentication-Warning: teamfat2.dsl.aros.net: majordom set sender to owner-vintage-race@Autox.Team.Net using -f > > Message-ID: <39F57D04.79A9AB89@fwi.com> > > Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:14:00 -0500 > > From: lwdent > > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-NSCPCD (Macintosh; U; PPC) > > X-Accept-Language: en > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > To: "Gerald J. Brazil" > > CC: "'Wm. Severin Thompson'" , > > "'Mark Robert Brinker'" , > > vintage-race@autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: devin panhard > > References: <001e01c03d2e$765a6740$85b299d1@voyager.net> > > Sender: owner-vintage-race@autox.team.net > > Precedence: bulk > > Reply-To: lwdent > > > > Wrong. It is I 69 and the junk yard is on the west side of the highway > > somewhere around Anderson (south I think, perhaps 15 miles) There are no > > signs and I am not sure if it sells anything as I have seen cars coming > > into the field for 20 years now and never have seen one parted out. > > > > Lots of Datsun roadsters, lots of strange looking stuff in there. I > > have the feeling that it is some kook that just buys old junk and > > wrecked cars and dumps them in his field. There may be a fence up now. > > I used to make that trip 2 to 3 times a month when I was working for 3M > > as much of my business was in Indy and I live in Fort Wayne. Retarded > > now so I don't go that way often. > > > > Good luck. > > > > L.D. > > > > --part1_50.c88cf27.27270176_boundary-- From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 20:43:28 2000 From: weisner To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 02:41:11 -0700 Subject: Necker Knobs We use to call them Kentucky Death Knobs because of what happens when you are in an accident with no seat belt. Thats probably why they were outlawed. BTW J.C.Whitney has them for $4.99, or $7.99 for a spring loaded one. "check local laws before ordering" Kurt Weisner svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com wrote: > > My Dad used to have one of those on the steering wheel of his big ol' Ford pickup back > when I was lad - "Okie power steering". They're illegal now, in California at least - why > I have no idea. > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > > Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us wrote: > > > [snip] Do you have one of those spinner > > thingees on the steering wheel? [snip] > > > > Fred - So.SF > > > > ________________________ Reply Separator ____________________________ > > Subject: RE: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) > > Author: "Ben Zech" > > Date: 10/24/2000 12:52 PM > > > > You are just way too coooool. > > BZ > > > > > > >From: "Hall, Phillip" > > >Reply-To: "Hall, Phillip" > > >To: "'CalSpeed@aol.com'" , Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us, > > >robinkrause@hotmail.com, jason@xio.com > > >CC: mtyler@hctc.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > >Subject: RE: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) > > >Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:34:14 -0500 > > > > > >It can be used as a cruise control - on my '68 I used to set it in 2 nd > > >gear > > >at 2500 RPM and cruise to the hot springs on a dirt road as I sat on the > > >roll bar and drove with my feet. Great way to enjoy the Idaho > > >mountains:-) > > > > > >Phil > > >SEROC > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: CalSpeed@aol.com [SMTP:CalSpeed@aol.com] > > > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 7:08 PM > > > To: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us; robinkrause@hotmail.com; > > >jason@xio.com > > > Cc: mtyler@hctc.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > > Subject: Re: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) > > > > > > << Well, if you haven't used them, you don't have to worry about > > >them. What I > > > hear is that most folks don't bother using the throttle at all. > > >Mine is > > > busted and it isn't missed. It allows you to pull the accelerator > > >linkage, > > > and a twist locks it so the engine can be revved higher. Dangerous > > >to use > > > it as a cruise control - don't consider that. >> > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I agree. It is not to be used as a cruise control although I did > > >use it as > > > that when I was driving through the desolate areas of AZ and NM two > > >years > > > ago. I remember setting it at around 75 or so and then just > > >relaxing. > > > Although everytime I went up and down an incline or dip on the > > >highway the > > > speed would change. Sometimes drastically. > > > > > > No... I dont recommend it to be used that way but it sure did come > > >in handy > > > that summer. > > > > > > Calspeed > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 22:03:28 2000 From: "Adam Fox" To: Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 14:59:06 +1000 Subject: resto pics I have moved my pages and added a few more pics of the roadster restoration, for those who are interested. http://home.iprimus.com.au/adfox/ Adam From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 24 22:43:06 2000 From: Daniel E McHatton To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 21:43:07 -0700 Subject: Re: Re[2]: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) When I was a kid I can remember sitting in the package tray behind the seats of our Datsun roadster wind in my face, hair blowing in every direction. It's funny how cars can really bring back old memories. On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:40:36 -0700 Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us writes: > I didn't know they're illegal here. In the old days all the teenagers > had > them. > > As long as we're reminiscing, one of my memories of being a kid is > my Dad > throwing his arm out in front of me every time he'd hit the brakes > to slow > down for an intersection. His '54 Chevy and '59 Rambler had no > seatbelts, > they weren't required back then. I was afraid he was going to get a > little > close and clobber me with his arm, but it never happened. No > airbags, no > seatbelts, no headrests, kids climbing all over the seats. My Dad > briefly > had a Ford convertible, and me and my sisters would sit up with our > rears > on the trunk and our feet over the seatbacks while he drove. > > I think our parents generation had way more fun with cars! > > Fred > > ____________________ Reply Separator _____________________ > Subject: Re: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) > Author: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com > Date: 10/24/2000 10:54 AM > > > My Dad used to have one of those on the steering wheel of his big > ol' Ford > pickup back > when I was lad - "Okie power steering". They're illegal now, in > California at > least - why > I have no idea. > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > > Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us wrote: > > > [snip] Do you have one of those spinner > > thingees on the steering wheel? [snip] > > > > Fred - So.SF > > > > ________________________ Reply Separator > ____________________________ > > Subject: RE: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) > > Author: "Ben Zech" > > Date: 10/24/2000 12:52 PM > > > > You are just way too coooool. > > BZ > > > > > > >From: "Hall, Phillip" > > >Reply-To: "Hall, Phillip" > > >To: "'CalSpeed@aol.com'" , > Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us, > > >robinkrause@hotmail.com, jason@xio.com > > >CC: mtyler@hctc.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > >Subject: RE: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) > > >Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:34:14 -0500 > > > > > >It can be used as a cruise control - on my '68 I used to set it > in 2 nd > > >gear > > >at 2500 RPM and cruise to the hot springs on a dirt road as I sat > on the > > >roll bar and drove with my feet. Great way to enjoy the Idaho > > >mountains:-) > > > > > >Phil > > >SEROC > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: CalSpeed@aol.com [SMTP:CalSpeed@aol.com] > > > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 7:08 PM > > > To: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us; robinkrause@hotmail.com; > > >jason@xio.com > > > Cc: mtyler@hctc.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > > Subject: Re: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) > > > > > > << Well, if you haven't used them, you don't have to worry > about > > >them. What I > > > hear is that most folks don't bother using the throttle at > all. > > >Mine is > > > busted and it isn't missed. It allows you to pull the > accelerator > > >linkage, > > > and a twist locks it so the engine can be revved higher. > Dangerous > > >to use > > > it as a cruise control - don't consider that. >> > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I agree. It is not to be used as a cruise control although > I did > > >use it as > > > that when I was driving through the desolate areas of AZ and > NM two > > >years > > > ago. I remember setting it at around 75 or so and then just > > >relaxing. > > > Although everytime I went up and down an incline or dip on > the > > >highway the > > > speed would change. Sometimes drastically. > > > > > > No... I dont recommend it to be used that way but it sure did > come > > >in handy > > > that summer. > > > > > > Calspeed > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 25 06:45:05 2000 From: cfcoker@netmail.home.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 05:44:37 -0700 Subject: Connecting Rod part numbers The parts microfiche shows two part numbers for R16 connecting rods: 12100-14650 and 12100-B1100. From what I understand, the 3-main and 5-main motors used the same con-rods. Anyone know what the differences are? NissanAutoParts.com lists the price of both as $71.80. Happy Roadstering, Chris Coker Royal Oak, MI 1969 1600 SPL311-24529 196? 1600 G Production Race Car <- almost race ready! From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 25 06:54:24 2000 From: Eric Gustavson To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 22:49:58 +1000 Subject: down with tops Hi folks, over here at latitude 19S, it's getting hot and the tops are going up, otherwise ya fry yer scone. soon to be waiting for the cooler weather some months away..... regards Eric in Townsville '70 rhd 1600 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 25 06:54:43 2000 From: "Mike Faggart" To: , Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 08:48:30 -0400 Subject: Re: FW: SEROC and NOROC at Road Atlanta Hey Fred, I resemble that remark, NOROCer, SEROCer, temp passenger Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Roadsters (E-mail)" ; "Roadsters (E-mail 2)" ; "Hall; Phillip" Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 7:31 PM Subject: Re: FW: SEROC and NOROC at Road Atlanta > Yes, very nice pics! Nice to see Ben and Rita and their sweet roadster, after > meeting them earlier this year when they visited CA. Hopefully Chris' MGB > tail-light disease won't infect SEROC. You guys really filled that roadster and > didn't leave much room, in the pic dcp_0164! > > Fred > > _________________________ Reply Separator ________________________ > >Subject: FW: SEROC and NOROC at Road Atlanta > >Author: "Hall; Phillip" > >Date: 10/23/2000 3:59 PM > > > >Lists - Sense the cat is out - here is Ben and Rita's pictures. Enjoy! > > > >Phil > > > >Here are the pictures we took this weekend. > >Phil, will you forward to John? We don't have his email address. We will be > >posting it to the list soon. Just wanted you to view first. Thanks. > >I was really great meeting all of you...we're ready to get together again > >soon. > >Ben and Rita > >http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=185114&a=9516034 > > > >_____________________________________________________________________ ____ > > . > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 25 07:36:47 2000 From: Alex Avery To: "datsunmike" Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 09:33:30 -0400 Subject: Re: Re[2]: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) Actually, a new Excursion or any other large SUV, including my '97 GMC Sierra 2500 pickup, puts out less pollutants than even 1/2 a roadster--unless you count CO2 as a "pollutant" which is arguable because CO2 doesn't hurt anyone or anything in the short run (15% or crop yield increases over the last 50 years can be attributable to CO2 increases--I know, it's my job). So let's not start throwing stones at larger vehicles--they're pretty damn clean these days. Alex Avery Hudson Institute At 08:02 PM 10/24/00 -0400, datsunmike wrote: >Fred, > >You bet!!!!! None of those stinkin regulations!!!!!! The right to grossly >pollute is an inalienable right of every American. Whoops, we do that now >with Excursions! > >Mike (who never wears seatbelts in the Roadster) > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Cc: >Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 2:40 PM >Subject: Re[2]: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) > > >> I didn't know they're illegal here. In the old days all the teenagers had >> them. >> >> As long as we're reminiscing, one of my memories of being a kid is my Dad >> throwing his arm out in front of me every time he'd hit the brakes to slow >> down for an intersection. His '54 Chevy and '59 Rambler had no seatbelts, >> they weren't required back then. I was afraid he was going to get a little >> close and clobber me with his arm, but it never happened. No airbags, no >> seatbelts, no headrests, kids climbing all over the seats. My Dad briefly >> had a Ford convertible, and me and my sisters would sit up with our rears >> on the trunk and our feet over the seatbacks while he drove. >> >> I think our parents generation had way more fun with cars! >> >> Fred >> >> ____________________ Reply Separator _____________________ >> Subject: Re: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) >> Author: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com >> Date: 10/24/2000 10:54 AM >> >> >> My Dad used to have one of those on the steering wheel of his big ol' Ford >> pickup back >> when I was lad - "Okie power steering". They're illegal now, in California >at >> least - why >> I have no idea. >> >> Gary McCormick >> San Jose, CA >> >> Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us wrote: >> >> > [snip] Do you have one of those spinner >> > thingees on the steering wheel? [snip] >> > >> > Fred - So.SF >> > >> > ________________________ Reply Separator ____________________________ >> > Subject: RE: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) >> > Author: "Ben Zech" >> > Date: 10/24/2000 12:52 PM >> > >> > You are just way too coooool. >> > BZ >> > >> > >> > >From: "Hall, Phillip" >> > >Reply-To: "Hall, Phillip" >> > >To: "'CalSpeed@aol.com'" , Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us, >> > >robinkrause@hotmail.com, jason@xio.com >> > >CC: mtyler@hctc.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >> > >Subject: RE: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) >> > >Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:34:14 -0500 >> > > >> > >It can be used as a cruise control - on my '68 I used to set it in 2 nd >> > >gear >> > >at 2500 RPM and cruise to the hot springs on a dirt road as I sat on >the >> > >roll bar and drove with my feet. Great way to enjoy the Idaho >> > >mountains:-) >> > > >> > >Phil >> > >SEROC >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: CalSpeed@aol.com [SMTP:CalSpeed@aol.com] >> > > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 7:08 PM >> > > To: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us; robinkrause@hotmail.com; >> > >jason@xio.com >> > > Cc: mtyler@hctc.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >> > > Subject: Re: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) >> > > >> > > << Well, if you haven't used them, you don't have to worry about >> > >them. What I >> > > hear is that most folks don't bother using the throttle at all. >> > >Mine is >> > > busted and it isn't missed. It allows you to pull the accelerator >> > >linkage, >> > > and a twist locks it so the engine can be revved higher. Dangerous >> > >to use >> > > it as a cruise control - don't consider that. >> >> > > >> > > Hello, >> > > >> > > I agree. It is not to be used as a cruise control although I did >> > >use it as >> > > that when I was driving through the desolate areas of AZ and NM two >> > >years >> > > ago. I remember setting it at around 75 or so and then just >> > >relaxing. >> > > Although everytime I went up and down an incline or dip on the >> > >highway the >> > > speed would change. Sometimes drastically. >> > > >> > > No... I dont recommend it to be used that way but it sure did come >> > >in handy >> > > that summer. >> > > >> > > Calspeed >> > >> > >_________________________________________________________________________ >> > >> > >> > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 25 09:48:59 2000 From: Ross To: datsun roadsters Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 08:58:58 -0700 Subject: SPORTS IMPORTS FALL SPECIALS FUEL FOR THOUGHT... FUEL TANKS- acid dipped, painted black in base/clear, tested, ready to install,single outlet tanks only, state early or late, tank only $300 FUEL TANK SENDING UNIT- new sending unit, early 5 screw or late style ring type- $41 FUEL TANK STRAPS-reconditoned, comes with rubber strapping $15 ea FUEL TANK J-HOOKS- replated, come with two nuts, $5 ea FUEL FILLER NECK TUBE- replated, $10 FUEL NECK RUBBER DONUT- rear panel outer rubber donut- $5 ea FUEL FILTER- late style white plastic, L shaped fittings, $7 ea FUEL FILTER- early style insert, $4 ea FUEL FILTER ASSEMBLY- early assembly with glass bowl and filter $30 ea FUEL FILTER ASSEMBLY- early assembly with steel bowl and filter $20 ea FUEL PUMP- state 1500-1600-2000- $68 ea -- Ross Mullen SPORTS IMPORTS - your Datsun Roadster Parts House Phone: (604) 538-5615 FAX: 535-3538 Web site: http://home.istar.ca/~datsun From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 25 09:53:14 2000 From: ken ogi To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 09:08:17 -0700 Subject: z-roadster good morning list... there is a new kid up for a sale http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=479156521 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 25 11:12:55 2000 From: "Kyle Hagemann" To: "311" Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 10:04:47 -0700 Subject: Thanks for the jinx, Fred! (was Top Down Weather) It's raining now. The only rain summoning ceremony more effective than washing your car: Boasting about the beautiful weather in October! OTOH, I get to drive the Z again.... :-) ____ Kyle Hagemann, Born-Again Grease Monkey From Beyond _.;(____\____ 72 240Z, L28/E88/SU, 5sp, all poly - Z Beast | _ | | _'@`, 71 PL521, LZ22, SUs, 2" exh, 4spd - The Hulk `-(#)------(#)-< 69 2000, For Sale $4100; looks and runs good ------------------- 84 Maxima, Tokicos/ST springs, 238K - Mr Max http://www.sonic.net/~kyle http://www.sonic.net/~kyle/cars.html "Trust in Allah, but tie up your camel." -Sinbad From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 25 11:53:53 2000 From: "Ofarrell, Fergus" To: "'roadster.netlist'" Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 10:52:54 -0700 Subject: alternative roadster?? forgot to save the message of a list member asking if any were interested in aftermarket sway bars. I am interested. please reply off-list. here's a pic to look at, clean 240Z chop job. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=479159861 Fergus O 69 2000, CA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 25 11:55:13 2000 From: SRAPL311@aol.com To: weisner@seidata.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 13:54:37 EDT Subject: Re: Necker Knobs Perhaps they are outlawed because they tend to catch inside of your coat sleeve and you can no longer steer. That happened a couple of times to me before I wised up and removed mine - years ago. (They were really handy when driving the farm tractor and weaving around corn shocks; many, many sharp turns close together - and little chance of a collision. Could be handy during auto cross?) Larry From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 25 12:01:25 2000 From: SRAPL311@aol.com To: aavery@rica.net, datsunmike@nyc.rr.com Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 14:00:53 EDT Subject: Re: Re[2]: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) But SUVs are no fun to follow. And less fun to be hit by one, especially if in a roadster! Glad to hear SUVs increased crop yields more than the roadsters. : ) From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 25 13:14:37 2000 From: Jim Williams To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 12:14:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: U 20 Cylinder Head Questions List: I am slowly rebuilding my spare 2L U20 motor. Short block is completed, and starting to work on the Cylinder head. I know it is critical to not allow the head to be milled unless absolutely needed... Can anyone recommend a shop, where I can go or send my Cyl Head for evaluation and rebuild. I am looking for someone who knows roadster heads... I am in the Phoenix, AZ area, but am willing to ship the head to a good shop... My head appears to have hard seats installed, and may only need the valves ground... What shops have you used? Who should I avoid? Thanks for the great help this list provides. Jim Williams 68 2000 Scottsdale, AZ jamesd_williams@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 25 13:19:48 2000 From: Michael Tarelka To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 12:20:58 -0700 Subject: Door Kick Plates This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------4C4E00A95189302D0C8707EA Group, I just redid the door kick plates on my 1600 and they turned out very well. I had 3 for the car and all of them had that dull oxidized look, with some rusting (I still don't know how aluminum rusts). At first I tried the steel wool routine that Roman, mentioned in an earlier post - not for me. I had the plates glass blasted, which rendered them a dull grey, not too cool a look; I almost panicked. I then took them to a commercial painter who had a swatch of metal powder coat he thought would be OK. The result is beautiful, you can't tell the difference between the color of the plates and the matching door trim. The minimum for the paint job was $100, but he told me he could do 6 or 8 for the same price. The glass blasting was $30, which also was a minimum charge. Michael Tarelka Alameda, CA --------------4C4E00A95189302D0C8707EA name="mtarelka.vcf" Content-Description: Card for Michael Tarelka Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="mtarelka.vcf" begin:vcard n:Tarelka;Michael x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 note:SPL 311-26026 x-mozilla-cpt:;22416 fn:Michael Tarelka end:vcard --------------4C4E00A95189302D0C8707EA-- From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 25 13:23:48 2000 From: "Hall, Phillip" To: "Roadsters (E-mail)" Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 14:26:48 -0500 Subject: Paper Roadster Someone had a copy of the paper Roadster from Japan. Could you email me - I would like to get a copy of it if possible for personal use only. Talking to my office neighbor about Road Atlanta. He said "you drove your Roadster to Atlanta!!!!". "I would never drive my Midget that far!" Now that is why we drive Roadsters isn't it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Happy Roadstering Phil From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 25 14:05:26 2000 From: "Brad Holmes" To: Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 14:59:23 +600 Subject: Paper Roadster I would like a paper roadster as well. Is there a source to go to other than the goodness of a fellow roadsterite? Thanks 68-2000 Brad Holmes bholmes@monk.aum.edu (334) 244-3713 Fax (334) 244-3792 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 25 14:29:56 2000 From: Alex Avery To: Michael Tarelka , Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 16:26:30 -0400 Subject: Re: Door Kick Plates-I disagree Bead or media blasting is the wrong way to go. The problem with bead or media blasting is that it inherently pits surfaces--hence the dull grey look. Bead blasting works great when the surface being blasted is much harder than the blasting media, but it'll destroy the original surface of softer metals, such as the soft aluminum door kickplate. The door kick plates can be restored with a little elbow grease and a succession of grits that remove oxidized aluminum and keep the surface smooth. Steel wool (#0000, very fine) or extremely fine sand paper, then a little polishing with a paste aluminum polish and they're as good as new! I just can't see the benefit of destroying the original surface of what was originally bare polished metal only to resort to painting to "restore" the original bare, polished metal look of the aluminum trim. Just polish it up! As a bonus, instead of costing $100, it'll cost you as little as $1.50 for steel wool/aluminum polish and some valuable time caring for your roadster. Alex Avery At 12:20 PM 10/25/00 -0700, Michael Tarelka wrote: >This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >--------------4C4E00A95189302D0C8707EA > >Group, > >I just redid the door kick plates on my 1600 and they turned out very >well. I had 3 for the car and all of them had that dull oxidized look, >with some rusting (I still don't know how aluminum rusts). At first I >tried the steel wool routine that Roman, mentioned in an earlier post - >not for me. > >I had the plates glass blasted, which rendered them a dull grey, not too >cool a look; I almost panicked. I then took them to a commercial >painter who had a swatch of metal powder coat he thought would be OK. >The result is beautiful, you can't tell the difference between the color >of the plates and the matching door trim. The minimum for the paint job >was $100, but he told me he could do 6 or 8 for the same price. The >glass blasting was $30, which also was a minimum charge. > >Michael Tarelka >Alameda, CA > >--------------4C4E00A95189302D0C8707EA > name="mtarelka.vcf" >Content-Description: Card for Michael Tarelka >Content-Disposition: attachment; > filename="mtarelka.vcf" > >begin:vcard >n:Tarelka;Michael >x-mozilla-html:FALSE >adr:;;;;;; >version:2.1 >note:SPL 311-26026 >x-mozilla-cpt:;22416 >fn:Michael Tarelka >end:vcard > >--------------4C4E00A95189302D0C8707EA-- > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 25 14:51:00 2000 From: "David A. Fox" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 16:50:30 EDT Subject: Re: z-roadster Hummm... Doesn't look too bad ;>) BS&CW, DAFox ----Original Message Follows---- From: ken ogi Reply-To: ken ogi To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: z-roadster Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 09:08:17 -0700 good morning list... there is a new kid up for a sale http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=479156521 _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 25 15:48:53 2000 From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us To: "Roadsters (E-mail)" , Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 14:31:44 -0700 Subject: Re: Paper Roadster Hi Phil, I mentioned to Laurie that I have one. Not original, I pulled it off a Japanese website, and part of it was obscured. I found it in my archives, and I'm now mocking up a substitute. I figure if I make it different enough, no lawyer will come looking for me. By coincidence, it'll look like my roadster! Here's the link I found: http://car-graphic.cplaza.ne.jp/papercar/info/dpc02_05.html As you can see, the right rear fender is obscured. So have a go at it, if you want to make a paper roadster you can get a crude one from that link graphic. Fred - So.SF ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Paper Roadster Author: "Hall; Phillip" at ~ctl-internet-po Date: 10/25/2000 2:26 PM Someone had a copy of the paper Roadster from Japan. Could you email me - I would like to get a copy of it if possible for personal use only. Talking to my office neighbor about Road Atlanta. He said "you drove your Roadster to Atlanta!!!!". "I would never drive my Midget that far!" Now that is why we drive Roadsters isn't it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Happy Roadstering Phil From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 25 16:13:05 2000 From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 14:47:31 -0700 Subject: caring for our cars Here's a nice site with car care tips. http://www.autopia-carcare.com/autopia/index.html For example, it contains tips on caring for the ragtop and plastic window. http://www.autopia-carcare.com/autopia/cabriocare.html (Sure it's intended for European cars but the info is pretty generic.) Fred - So.SF From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 25 17:47:49 2000 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 19:46:39 -0400 Subject: 1600 water pump?s Late model 5 main bearing, 1600 motor. Runs quiet, no wobble in the shaft, but leaking at the weep hole. Rebuild kits available or do I buy a new water pump? Paul OROC From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 25 18:10:32 2000 From: "Henry Bahn" To: , Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 20:19:04 -0400 Subject: Re: Connecting Rod part numbers I believe the 12100-B1100 (152.5mm/6.0") is the NISMO competition application. JH Bahn From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 25 18:13:24 2000 From: noji To: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 17:29:41 -0700 Subject: Re: Paper Roadster Web Raiders, For those who are interested, go to the page and Right Click (those in PC land) and you can choose to copy the background. Have fun in Photoshop and you too can have a stretch Roadster like Fred. Daniel can try his fins on this paper model fairly easily. Dana Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us wrote: > > Hi Phil, > > I mentioned to Laurie that I have one. Not original, I pulled it off a > Japanese website, and part of it was obscured. I found it in my archives, > and I'm now mocking up a substitute. I figure if I make it different > enough, no lawyer will come looking for me. By coincidence, it'll look like > my roadster! > > Here's the link I found: > > http://car-graphic.cplaza.ne.jp/papercar/info/dpc02_05.html > > As you can see, the right rear fender is obscured. So have a go at it, if you > want to make a paper roadster you can get a crude one from that link graphic. > > Fred - So.SF > > ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ > Subject: Paper Roadster > Author: "Hall; Phillip" at ~ctl-internet-po > Date: 10/25/2000 2:26 PM > > Someone had a copy of the paper Roadster from Japan. Could you email me - I > would like to get a copy of it if possible for personal use only. > > Talking to my office neighbor about Road Atlanta. He said "you drove your > Roadster to Atlanta!!!!". "I would never drive my Midget that far!" Now > that is why we drive Roadsters isn't it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Happy Roadstering > Phil -- Dana Nojima, Ph.D. Department of Urology VA Medical Center - 112F 4150 Clement Street San Francisco, CA 94121 phone: (415) 221-4810 x 2031 fax: (415) 750-6639 noji-1@pacbell.net From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 25 18:22:54 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Hall, Phillip" , Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 20:17:16 -0400 Subject: Re: Paper Roadster Phil, Midgets can't go that far. Extension cords aren't that long!!!!!!!! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Hall, Phillip To: Roadsters (E-mail) Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 3:26 PM Subject: Paper Roadster > Someone had a copy of the paper Roadster from Japan. Could you email me - I > would like to get a copy of it if possible for personal use only. > > Talking to my office neighbor about Road Atlanta. He said "you drove your > Roadster to Atlanta!!!!". "I would never drive my Midget that far!" Now > that is why we drive Roadsters isn't it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Happy Roadstering > Phil From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 25 18:25:11 2000 From: PETER VANDERPAS To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 17:24:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Need Help with Upholster in Bay Area I plan to get original style seat covers from one of our suppliers like Dean or Les. I got a quote from Sid's Upholstery in Mtn. View for $300 to rebuild two seats with new foam and webbing as needed and to install the seat covers. BADROCers, does this sound reasonable? Has anyone used a local upholsterer whom they would recomend? Also, I plan to get a dash cap (tall windshield). How difficult are these things to install? Should I get professional help? (was goavp@aol.com) ===== Peter van der Pas '68 2000 Mountain View, CA __________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 25 18:29:29 2000 From: "Patrick J. Horne" To: Jason Simpson Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 19:29:06 -0500 Subject: Re: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) Many years ago (I think late '50s, My parents awoke early one morning to headligts shining in their bedroom window. This was really strange, because the driveway was on the other side of the house. Upon closer inspection they found a milk truck sitting against the front wall of the house! The driver had a suicide knob on the truck which came off as he made the corner 3 houses down. He went out the door and the truck jumped the curb, went through the wooden bar fence out front and came to a stop against the house! Peace, Pat -- - Support Habitat for Humanity, A "hand up", not a "hand out" - Pat Horne, Network Manager, Shop Supervisor, Future planner CS Dept, University of Texas, Austin, Tx. 78712 USA voice (512)471-9517, fax (512)471-8885 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 25 19:11:17 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: giraffehauler@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 18:10:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Need Help with Upholster in Bay Area There is a place in redwood city that is supposed to do good work..Its called Dick and Dales you might want to try them. Daniel > I plan to get original style seat covers from one of > our suppliers like Dean or Les. I got a quote from > Sid's Upholstery in Mtn. View for $300 to rebuild two > seats with new foam and webbing as needed and to > install the seat covers. > > BADROCers, does this sound reasonable? Has anyone > used a local upholsterer whom they would recomend? > > Also, I plan to get a dash cap (tall windshield). How > difficult are these things to install? Should I get > professional help? > > (was goavp@aol.com) > > > > > > > ===== > Peter van der Pas > '68 2000 > Mountain View, CA > > __________________________________________________ > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 25 19:12:18 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: ken@norstargroup.com Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 18:11:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: z-roadster Hey I think that it looks great. I would want to see close up shots though. And have a good look at the top-is it jsut for show or is it really usable. Heck I'd buy it for 2 grand. Daniel 69 2000 SF CA > good morning list... > there is a new kid up for a sale > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=479156521 > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 25 19:26:23 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 18:25:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Another one of Daniels crazy ideas.... Hello All, Allright I got another crazy idea the other day. This a different one from the 59 Cad style fins and bullet tail lights-which are already seriously in the works. Here's my idea... A roadster rumble seat. Wouldn't that be neat-o. Here's how I could see it working. You would have to make up new hinges for the trunk so that it would open from the oppisite side it does now. These would have to be pretty heavy duty and you would have to reinforce the trunk lid and the wall of the trunk that you are mounting to Next you would have to cut away the wall between the trunk andthe package shelf. Now build some kind of false floor inthe trunk and have seat bottoms attached to it. Make some kind of seat back outof foam/wood and attach it to the inside of the trunk lid. With the trunk down the car looks normal. Pop the trunk and you have a four seater!!! You could make the seat bottom removeable so you could still have a useable trunk (chuck the spare tire). And with the inner wall cut away you will ahve extra room to carry long stuff. How does that sound?? Man, I gotta stop reading those 'Street Rodder' mags. There-a puttin idears in mah head Pah.... Daniel 69 2000 SF CA You jsut wait the modified class at shasta this year is going to have one new entrant!!! From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 25 20:21:21 2000 From: weisner To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 02:19:29 -0700 Subject: pollution, was unknown controls I was told once that when you figure in all of the materials and energy it takes to build a vehicle, From the strip mine to the dealers lights, that a new car does more damage to the environment before it reaches the showroom than in all of the miles driven after. There is probably a conspiracy between the government and the auto makers to prevent this from being told to the general public or the whole world economy would suffer because we would all be driving 30 year old cars. Kurt Weisner Alex Avery wrote: > > Actually, a new Excursion or any other large SUV, including my '97 GMC > Sierra 2500 pickup, puts out less pollutants than even 1/2 a > roadster--unless you count CO2 as a "pollutant" which is arguable because > CO2 doesn't hurt anyone or anything in the short run (15% or crop yield > increases over the last 50 years can be attributable to CO2 increases--I > know, it's my job). So let's not start throwing stones at larger > vehicles--they're pretty damn clean these days. > > Alex Avery > Hudson Institute > > At 08:02 PM 10/24/00 -0400, datsunmike wrote: > >Fred, > > > >You bet!!!!! None of those stinkin regulations!!!!!! The right to grossly > >pollute is an inalienable right of every American. Whoops, we do that now > >with Excursions! > > > >Mike (who never wears seatbelts in the Roadster) > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: > >To: > >Cc: > >Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 2:40 PM > >Subject: Re[2]: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) > > > > > >> I didn't know they're illegal here. In the old days all the teenagers had > >> them. > >> > >> As long as we're reminiscing, one of my memories of being a kid is my Dad > >> throwing his arm out in front of me every time he'd hit the brakes to slow > >> down for an intersection. His '54 Chevy and '59 Rambler had no seatbelts, > >> they weren't required back then. I was afraid he was going to get a little > >> close and clobber me with his arm, but it never happened. No airbags, no > >> seatbelts, no headrests, kids climbing all over the seats. My Dad briefly > >> had a Ford convertible, and me and my sisters would sit up with our rears > >> on the trunk and our feet over the seatbacks while he drove. > >> > >> I think our parents generation had way more fun with cars! > >> > >> Fred > >> > >> ____________________ Reply Separator _____________________ > >> Subject: Re: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) > >> Author: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com > >> Date: 10/24/2000 10:54 AM > >> > >> > >> My Dad used to have one of those on the steering wheel of his big ol' Ford > >> pickup back > >> when I was lad - "Okie power steering". They're illegal now, in California > >at > >> least - why > >> I have no idea. > >> > >> Gary McCormick > >> San Jose, CA > >> > >> Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us wrote: > >> > >> > [snip] Do you have one of those spinner > >> > thingees on the steering wheel? [snip] > >> > > >> > Fred - So.SF > >> > > >> > ________________________ Reply Separator ____________________________ > >> > Subject: RE: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) > >> > Author: "Ben Zech" > >> > Date: 10/24/2000 12:52 PM > >> > > >> > You are just way too coooool. > >> > BZ > >> > > >> > > >> > >From: "Hall, Phillip" > >> > >Reply-To: "Hall, Phillip" > >> > >To: "'CalSpeed@aol.com'" , Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us, > >> > >robinkrause@hotmail.com, jason@xio.com > >> > >CC: mtyler@hctc.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > >> > >Subject: RE: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) > >> > >Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:34:14 -0500 > >> > > > >> > >It can be used as a cruise control - on my '68 I used to set it in 2 nd > >> > >gear > >> > >at 2500 RPM and cruise to the hot springs on a dirt road as I sat on > >the > >> > >roll bar and drove with my feet. Great way to enjoy the Idaho > >> > >mountains:-) > >> > > > >> > >Phil > >> > >SEROC > >> > > > >> > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > From: CalSpeed@aol.com [SMTP:CalSpeed@aol.com] > >> > > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 7:08 PM > >> > > To: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us; robinkrause@hotmail.com; > >> > >jason@xio.com > >> > > Cc: mtyler@hctc.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > >> > > Subject: Re: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) > >> > > > >> > > << Well, if you haven't used them, you don't have to worry about > >> > >them. What I > >> > > hear is that most folks don't bother using the throttle at all. > >> > >Mine is > >> > > busted and it isn't missed. It allows you to pull the accelerator > >> > >linkage, > >> > > and a twist locks it so the engine can be revved higher. Dangerous > >> > >to use > >> > > it as a cruise control - don't consider that. >> > >> > > > >> > > Hello, > >> > > > >> > > I agree. It is not to be used as a cruise control although I did > >> > >use it as > >> > > that when I was driving through the desolate areas of AZ and NM two > >> > >years > >> > > ago. I remember setting it at around 75 or so and then just > >> > >relaxing. > >> > > Although everytime I went up and down an incline or dip on the > >> > >highway the > >> > > speed would change. Sometimes drastically. > >> > > > >> > > No... I dont recommend it to be used that way but it sure did come > >> > >in handy > >> > > that summer. > >> > > > >> > > Calspeed > >> > > >> > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >> > > >> > > >> > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 25 20:49:42 2000 From: Datsundude@aol.com To: mtarelka@home.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 22:42:39 EDT Subject: Re: Door Kick Plates boundary="------------4C4E00A95189302D0C8707EA" Has anyone seen the kick plates and door sills on ebay. Take a look, they're really nice looking. LOL DD From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 25 20:56:18 2000 From: "Stephen McCartney" To: weisner@seidata.com Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 02:55:20 GMT Subject: Re: pollution, was unknown controls Stop the economy, I want to get off!!!! Seriously, we can't expect everyone to just stop buying new cars. And cars are getting safer, faster, and cleaner all the time. Great! Now I consider myself to be something of a greeny. I was even an employee of Greenpeace, once (many years ago!). I live strongly by the three R's: Reduce, Reuse, Recycle. Not for one second did I ever consider buying a Datsun Roadster on environmental criteria! It's a 30y.o. gas guzzling (twin Solex's do that, you know) lead-emitting SOB. And I love it. No excuses. No problems. You don't have to justify your passions, IMO. I'll look after the environment in every OTHER way I can. 8^) Just my 2 cents...(which is about 1c US!) >From: weisner >Reply-To: weisner >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: pollution, was unknown controls >Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 02:19:29 -0700 > >I was told once that when you figure in all of the materials >and energy it takes to build a vehicle, From the strip mine to the >dealers lights, that a new car does more damage to the environment >before it reaches the showroom than in all of the miles driven after. > There is probably a conspiracy between the government and the >auto makers to prevent this from being told to the general public or the >whole world economy would suffer because we would all be driving 30 year >old cars. > Kurt Weisner > > >Alex Avery wrote: > > > > Actually, a new Excursion or any other large SUV, including my '97 GMC > > Sierra 2500 pickup, puts out less pollutants than even 1/2 a > > roadster--unless you count CO2 as a "pollutant" which is arguable >because > > CO2 doesn't hurt anyone or anything in the short run (15% or crop yield > > increases over the last 50 years can be attributable to CO2 increases--I > > know, it's my job). So let's not start throwing stones at larger > > vehicles--they're pretty damn clean these days. > > > > Alex Avery > > Hudson Institute > > > > At 08:02 PM 10/24/00 -0400, datsunmike wrote: > > >Fred, > > > > > >You bet!!!!! None of those stinkin regulations!!!!!! The right to >grossly > > >pollute is an inalienable right of every American. Whoops, we do that >now > > >with Excursions! > > > > > >Mike (who never wears seatbelts in the Roadster) > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: > > >To: > > >Cc: > > >Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 2:40 PM > > >Subject: Re[2]: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) > > > > > > > > >> I didn't know they're illegal here. In the old days all the teenagers >had > > >> them. > > >> > > >> As long as we're reminiscing, one of my memories of being a kid is my >Dad > > >> throwing his arm out in front of me every time he'd hit the brakes to >slow > > >> down for an intersection. His '54 Chevy and '59 Rambler had no >seatbelts, > > >> they weren't required back then. I was afraid he was going to get a >little > > >> close and clobber me with his arm, but it never happened. No airbags, >no > > >> seatbelts, no headrests, kids climbing all over the seats. My Dad >briefly > > >> had a Ford convertible, and me and my sisters would sit up with our >rears > > >> on the trunk and our feet over the seatbacks while he drove. > > >> > > >> I think our parents generation had way more fun with cars! > > >> > > >> Fred > > >> > > >> ____________________ Reply Separator _____________________ > > >> Subject: Re: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) > > >> Author: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com > > >> Date: 10/24/2000 10:54 AM > > >> > > >> > > >> My Dad used to have one of those on the steering wheel of his big ol' >Ford > > >> pickup back > > >> when I was lad - "Okie power steering". They're illegal now, in >California > > >at > > >> least - why > > >> I have no idea. > > >> > > >> Gary McCormick > > >> San Jose, CA > > >> > > >> Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us wrote: > > >> > > >> > [snip] Do you have one of those spinner > > >> > thingees on the steering wheel? [snip] > > >> > > > >> > Fred - So.SF > > >> > > > >> > ________________________ Reply Separator >____________________________ > > >> > Subject: RE: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) > > >> > Author: "Ben Zech" > > >> > Date: 10/24/2000 12:52 PM > > >> > > > >> > You are just way too coooool. > > >> > BZ > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >From: "Hall, Phillip" > > >> > >Reply-To: "Hall, Phillip" > > >> > >To: "'CalSpeed@aol.com'" , >Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us, > > >> > >robinkrause@hotmail.com, jason@xio.com > > >> > >CC: mtyler@hctc.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > >> > >Subject: RE: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) > > >> > >Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:34:14 -0500 > > >> > > > > >> > >It can be used as a cruise control - on my '68 I used to set it in >2 nd > > >> > >gear > > >> > >at 2500 RPM and cruise to the hot springs on a dirt road as I sat >on > > >the > > >> > >roll bar and drove with my feet. Great way to enjoy the Idaho > > >> > >mountains:-) > > >> > > > > >> > >Phil > > >> > >SEROC > > >> > > > > >> > > -----Original Message----- > > >> > > From: CalSpeed@aol.com [SMTP:CalSpeed@aol.com] > > >> > > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 7:08 PM > > >> > > To: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us; robinkrause@hotmail.com; > > >> > >jason@xio.com > > >> > > Cc: mtyler@hctc.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > >> > > Subject: Re: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600) > > >> > > > > >> > > << Well, if you haven't used them, you don't have to worry >about > > >> > >them. Wha _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 25 21:59:45 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: datsunroadsters@egroups.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 23:59:04 EDT Subject: Engines for sale Hello all, I have a couple of engines that are for sale. They are both 1600s from 67.5 cars. One is the long block (valve cover to oil pan - no intake/carbs/exhaust/distributor) and the other is the short block. Due to the obscene cost of shipping these by freight companies, they would need to be picked up in Jacksonville, Florida. The price is reasonable though! If anyone is interested, please contact me off list. Thanks, Sid _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Wed Oct 25 23:05:29 2000 From: Jjoeyy64@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 01:04:48 EDT Subject: parts need to know if anyone has a parts car for the so calif area 1600 roadster From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 00:19:06 2000 From: "Fred Katz" To: "PETER VANDERPAS" , Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 23:10:58 -0700 Subject: Re: Need Help with Upholster in Bay Area Peter, On Wednesday, October 25, 2000 5:24 PM PETER VANDERPAS wrote: > > I plan to get original style seat covers from one of > our suppliers like Dean or Les. I got a quote from > Sid's Upholstery in Mtn. View for $300 to rebuild two > seats with new foam and webbing as needed and to > install the seat covers. Talk to Calspeed! > > BADROCers, does this sound reasonable? Has anyone > used a local upholsterer whom they would recomend? Talk to Brian Cano. > > Also, I plan to get a dash cap (tall windshield). How > difficult are these things to install? Talk to the vendor you buy from - he will give you tips. What I've been told is that surface preparation makes all the difference. Smooth out as many bumps and imperfections as you can, because the dash cap will tend to mold to the old surface. > > Should I get professional help? As a roadster owner, craziness comes with the territory! That's why you have us as a support group! However, you will need professional help if ever you part with your roadster. Fred - So.SF BADROC From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 01:32:10 2000 From: "Adam Fox" To: , "Ben Zech" Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:28:10 +1000 Subject: Re: resto pics The FJ20t engine is actually in the P510, not the roadster. The roadster will be staying pretty standard id say. Id like to be able to insure it. Im pretty sure the FJ20t has been put into a roadster. They are a very gutsy motor, mine is doing about 138kw at the wheels, which moves the 510 along nicely. Not all that nice to drive tho, very on/off in the power delivery. Thanks Adam ----- Original Message ----- From: Ben Zech To: Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 10:56 PM Subject: Re: resto pics > Adam: very interesting information. > Do you have any pics on the installation of motor in the roadster. I am > considering a 240SX swap if I can locate one cheap, but would consider this > option too. > Thanks, BZ > BZ-RZ N.C. SPL/SRL "SEROC" > motormite@hotmail.com > > >From: "Adam Fox" > >Reply-To: "Adam Fox" > >To: > >Subject: resto pics > >Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 14:59:06 +1000 > > > >I have moved my pages and added a few more pics of the roadster > >restoration, > >for those who are interested. > > > > > >http://home.iprimus.com.au/adfox/ > > > >Adam > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 01:39:17 2000 From: "Adam Fox" To: , "datsunmike" Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:35:27 +1000 Subject: Re: resto pics That is the 'everything" vac. Even sucks up water occasionally. But yes it has sucked a lot of rust in its time, more than id hoped actually, but you cant always see whats hiding under the 6 layers of paint ;-). Oh well, ill just battle on, hope to finish it after summer some time.... So you also have been thru a similar rust experience? Adam ----- Original Message ----- From: datsunmike To: Adam Fox Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 9:21 AM Subject: Re: resto pics > Adam, > > Nice. Is that a "rust" vacuum I saw?????? I used something similar to suck > up my rust and my whole car disappeared! > > Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Adam Fox > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 12:59 AM > Subject: resto pics > > > > I have moved my pages and added a few more pics of the roadster > restoration, > > for those who are interested. > > > > > > http://home.iprimus.com.au/adfox/ > > > > Adam > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 08:21:35 2000 From: Michael Tarelka To: PETER VANDERPAS , Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 07:22:17 -0700 Subject: Re: Need Help with Upholster in Bay Area This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------57FA5A4C4A8A3637DC552B8E Peter, You should call Mike Young, he has some guy in the City, who does an excellent job on seats. He also has installed many dash caps and could give you an idea of the degree of difficulty. Dean, also has a good feeling about these matters too. Michael Tarelka Alameda, CA PETER VANDERPAS wrote: > I plan to get original style seat covers from one of > our suppliers like Dean or Les. I got a quote from > Sid's Upholstery in Mtn. View for $300 to rebuild two > seats with new foam and webbing as needed and to > install the seat covers. > > BADROCers, does this sound reasonable? Has anyone > used a local upholsterer whom they would recomend? > > Also, I plan to get a dash cap (tall windshield). How > difficult are these things to install? Should I get > professional help? > > (was goavp@aol.com) > > ===== > Peter van der Pas > '68 2000 > Mountain View, CA > > __________________________________________________ --------------57FA5A4C4A8A3637DC552B8E name="mtarelka.vcf" Content-Description: Card for Michael Tarelka Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="mtarelka.vcf" begin:vcard n:Tarelka;Michael x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 note:SPL 311-26026 x-mozilla-cpt:;22416 fn:Michael Tarelka end:vcard --------------57FA5A4C4A8A3637DC552B8E-- From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 08:32:33 2000 From: "Patrick J. Horne" To: Daniel Neuman Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 09:31:47 -0500 Subject: Re: z-roadster A friend of mine had one of these 2X0 roadsters. He drove his car out to someone in California (San Diego?) who cut the top off, built up the frame, used the top to fabricate a trunk lid and then had a conv. top frame built for it, along with a soft top. It looked great, but was not cheap! I have't seen him in about 10 years, so I don't know how the car is doing. Peace, Pat -- - Support Habitat for Humanity, A "hand up", not a "hand out" - Pat Horne, Network Manager, Shop Supervisor, Future planner CS Dept, University of Texas, Austin, Tx. 78712 USA voice (512)471-9517, fax (512)471-8885 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 09:12:27 2000 From: Ronnie Day To: "Roadster List" Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:11:53 -0500 Subject: (OT) Adhesives, or Making Velcro Stick & Radar Stuff Here's a non roadster specific question which may be of general interest. I use pieces of 1 inch and 2 inch Velcro (loops side on the mounting surface) to hold various things like microphones and radar detectors to car dashes and consoles. Usually I use clear RTV silicone and it works fine. However on the dash of the Skylark that we recently bought as a driver, the silicone doesn't want to stick. The dash surface is very smooth, particularly in comparison to our Honda van where the silicone worked great, and I cleaned the area well before attaching the Velcro. The second time I used lacquer thinner, let the whole thing flash off for a couple of days before using it, and the Velcro loop piece still pulled off the dash in a short time. Might a contact cement work better? Thought the more chemically inclined folks on the list might have a suggestion. I just set the radar detector on the top of the dash and the Velcro keeps it there. Putting it on the dash top avoids all of the wires hanging across the windshield and I doubt it degrades performance at all. Just for information, my radar detector is the last Escort (model, not brand) offered by Cincinnati Microwave before they became Escort. Michael Valentine, the guy behind the Valentine One, was one of the founders of Cincinnati Microwave. Being an older model, it doesn't have the latest bells and whistles, but it's excellent non the less. However the last two speeding tickets I've received, I probably would had been nailed even with a Valentine One since they used instant on radar. Top a hill, round a corner, the officer triggers the radar, and you're caught. Having one of these things isn't a substitute for using your head when you push the envelope. Buying a cheap one is a waste of money. You might as well save the money to pay fines and higher insurance. On the other hand the Escort has saved my butt dozens of times. I think I paid around $250 for it almost 10 years ago. I know it's paid for itself many times over. The two tickets were far enough apart time wise that I was able to take defensive driving both times, but if I'd had to pay the tickets they would have been $150 to $200, for 75-80 in a 55 zone. At those prices if you're going to risk fines like that (they're probably more today) I'd strongly suggest spending the $375 or so Valentine gets for his box. If it saves you a couple of $150 tickets, not to mention the insurance rate increases, it's worth it. Didn't mean to ramble but FWIW, Ron Ronnie Day ronday@home.com ------------------ Dallas/Ft. Worth ------------------ '71 510 2-dr (Prepared Class Autocrosser) '73 510 2-dr (Street Toy) From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 09:48:36 2000 From: "Patrick J. Horne" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:48:00 -0500 Subject: (OT) automatic transmission servicing Many places now have equipment to flush automatic transmissions. Is this a gimic to increase the fees that they extract from us,or is this a beneficial process? I have a couple of vehicles that I am betting ready to change the fluid on, '88 Honda w/200K miles and '97 Dodge Ram van w/86K miles, and can't decide if I should pay the extra bucks to have the transmissions cleaned out, or just change the fluids myself. Thanks,and now back to our regularly scheduled programming. Peace, Pat -- - Support Habitat for Humanity, A "hand up", not a "hand out" - Pat Horne, Network Manager, Shop Supervisor, Future planner CS Dept, University of Texas, Austin, Tx. 78712 USA voice (512)471-9517, fax (512)471-8885 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 11:58:50 2000 From: "The Belgian Roadster" To: Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 19:59:57 +0200 Subject: Need help assembling rear brakes Hi List, How is the rear brake cylinder fixed to the brake plate? I have 4 shims, 2 small and big, and two 2 large and thin. Which ones are against the plate? On both is some kind of locking device, the small ones are pushed together and secure into each other. The large ones have a small 90° edge, where has this one to show to? To the plate or to the protection rubber? And are these edges both at the same side, close to each other, or one from each side of the cylinder. Best Regards, Chris-The Belgian Roadster From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 12:17:18 2000 From: "Ben Zech" To: ronday@home.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:16:07 GMT Subject: Adhesives/Sealants (gas tank leaking) While we are on the subject of adhesives/sealants. I need to seal my sending unit (gas) at the top of the tank. It keeps leaking whenever I fill it up. Suggestions? BZ-RZ N.C. SPL/SRL "SEROC" motormite@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 12:31:56 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 11:31:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: test Hello This is a test..Don't know if any of my posts are getting through. Did the one about the rumble seat come through?? Daniel From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 12:59:14 2000 From: "Patrick J. Horne" To: Daniel Neuman Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:58:27 -0500 Subject: Re: test Yup, I saw it rumble around a few hours ago. Peace, Pat -- - Support Habitat for Humanity, A "hand up", not a "hand out" - Pat Horne, Network Manager, Shop Supervisor, Future planner CS Dept, University of Texas, Austin, Tx. 78712 USA voice (512)471-9517, fax (512)471-8885 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 13:32:53 2000 From: Ronnie Day To: "Daniel Neuman" , Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:32:09 -0500 Subject: Re: test > This is a test..Don't know if any of my posts are getting through. >Did the one about the rumble seat come through?? Oh it made it through just fine, Daniel. I suspect others are like me, sitting with their mouths hanging open wondering what in the world you'll think of next! Don't you think leg room might be a bit lacking, not to say "short" (sorry, just couldn't resist) in a setup like you're proposing? Just a thought, Ron Ronnie Day ronday@home.com ------------------ Dallas/Ft. Worth ------------------ '71 510 2-dr (Prepared Class Autocrosser) '73 510 2-dr (Street Toy) From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 13:37:51 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: ronday@home.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 12:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Was test now back to rumble seat. Hi Ron, I don't think the leg room would be a huge problem..well maybe the package shelf is not all that wide. If the trunk lid was hinged so that the passangers butts were as close as reasonable to the outer trunk edge it might work... Or it might just be for the kids?? Ever sit in the back seat of a karmin ghia?? Or a 911?? Daniel 69 2000 SF CA > > Oh it made it through just fine, Daniel. I suspect others are like me, > sitting with their mouths hanging open wondering what in the world you'll > think of next! > > Don't you think leg room might be a bit lacking, not to say "short" > (sorry, just couldn't resist) in a setup like you're proposing? > > Just a thought, > Ron > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 13:40:48 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: motormite@hotmail.com, ronday@home.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 15:40:24 EDT Subject: Re: Adhesives/Sealants (gas tank leaking) Ben, I thought that there was a big O ring for that. Am I mistaken? I have early roadsters, so I could well be. Sid >From: "Ben Zech" >Reply-To: "Ben Zech" >To: ronday@home.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Adhesives/Sealants (gas tank leaking) >Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:16:07 GMT > >While we are on the subject of adhesives/sealants. >I need to seal my sending unit (gas) at the top of the tank. It keeps >leaking whenever I fill it up. >Suggestions? >BZ-RZ N.C. SPL/SRL "SEROC" >motormite@hotmail.com > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 13:47:55 2000 From: "Andrew Jacobs" To: Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 15:53:18 -0400 Subject: z-roadster i actually drove a 240 with a similar conversion about 10 years ago. i had a great service guy in virginia who sold me my 240 and i happened to be there when a convertible 240 was in for service. the conversion was well done and the car looked great--i asked who ran the shop about possibly doing the same to my car, he told me to take a ride in the car that was there first--when i did, it was almost scary--the cowl moved all over the place, and when you would turn into parking lots, etc., the whole chassis would twist and make creaking noises when you passed over a dip or a rain gutter between the road and the parking lot. i decided to keep the roof on my car after that. andy 71 240z 69 2000 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 14:15:45 2000 From: Alex Avery To: Daniel Neuman , ronday@home.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:12:04 -0400 Subject: Re: Was test now back to rumble seat. Yeah, it might work as far as fitting people in, but one small fender bender and the "rumble seat" passengers get RUMBLED with a double whammy: 1. A face-plant right into the rear deck (LOTS harder than a padded dashboard AND lots closer!); 2. Then the rear-hinged trunk lid comes slamming down onto either your back (OUCH!!) or the back or your head, thereby rebounding your face right back into the rear deck (Double OUCHHHH!!). Me thinks we'll keep our roadster a two seater for now, why mess with such a good thing--eh? Alex Avery At 12:37 PM 10/26/00 -0700, Daniel Neuman wrote: >Hi Ron, > I don't think the leg room would be a huge problem..well maybe the >package shelf is not all that wide. If the trunk lid was hinged so that >the passangers butts were as close as reasonable to the outer trunk edge >it might work... Or it might just be for the kids?? Ever sit in the back >seat of a karmin ghia?? Or a 911?? > Daniel 69 2000 > SF CA > >> >> Oh it made it through just fine, Daniel. I suspect others are like me, >> sitting with their mouths hanging open wondering what in the world you'll >> think of next! >> >> Don't you think leg room might be a bit lacking, not to say "short" >> (sorry, just couldn't resist) in a setup like you're proposing? >> >> Just a thought, >> Ron >> > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 14:18:39 2000 From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com To: Andrew Jacobs Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:18:13 -0700 Subject: Re: z-roadster Look up the weight numbers for the hardtop and convertible versions of the same car, any car, sometime. You'll see that the convertible is always heavier. A hardtop is a mechanically efficient way to stiffen an automobile's structure - take it away and you have to add heavier (both in section AND weight) members to the chassis to approach the same amount of rigidity. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA Andrew Jacobs wrote: > i actually drove a 240 with a similar conversion about 10 years ago. > i had a great service guy in virginia who sold me my 240 and i > happened to be there when a convertible 240 was in for service. the > conversion was well done and the car looked great--i asked who ran the > shop about possibly doing the same to my car, he told me to take a > ride in the car that was there first--when i did, it was almost > scary--the cowl moved all over the place, and when you would turn into > parking lots, etc., the whole chassis would twist and make creaking > noises when you passed over a dip or a rain gutter between the road > and the parking lot. i decided to keep the roof on my car after that. > andy > 71 240z > 69 2000 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 14:26:54 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: aavery@rica.net (Alex Avery) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:25:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Was test now back to rumble seat. Hello, Well I think any well designed rumble seat will have some sort of mechinism to lock the seatback into position. If the people were wear reasonable seat belts would they still faceplant into the rear deck? Hmm maybe make the rear deck removable. That would leave a lot of wiggle room. I wonder if the frame is overly strong enough to handle losing the tunk/ package shelf wall and the rear deck. Hmmmm... Why mess with such a good thing... Hell I don't know.. I guess I have always had a very serious case of 'tinker-itis' Daniel 69 2000 SF CA > Yeah, it might work as far as fitting people in, but one small fender > bender and the "rumble seat" passengers get RUMBLED with a double whammy: > 1. A face-plant right into the rear deck (LOTS harder than a padded > dashboard AND lots closer!); 2. Then the rear-hinged trunk lid comes > slamming down onto either your back (OUCH!!) or the back or your head, > thereby rebounding your face right back into the rear deck (Double > OUCHHHH!!). > > Me thinks we'll keep our roadster a two seater for now, why mess with such > a good thing--eh? > > Alex Avery > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 14:32:41 2000 From: Alex Avery To: "Andrew Jacobs" , Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:28:36 -0400 Subject: Re: z-roadster As an enthusiastic Z car guy, the word on Z car roadsters is "Be careful," for exactly the reasons noted below. Removing the roof on a Z unit-body kills half the structural ridgidity. The Z body/chassis isn't all that rigid to begin with--I know, I've stressed the rear C pillar joints (where the top of the C pillar meets the rear of the roof) on several Z cars with spirited driving. The filler on the joint bulges out very noticeably when that happens, becuase it's right at eye level when you get out of the car. ("Oops! Uh, sorry Dude, I didn't know THAT was going to happen"). That tells you how much stress those joints take under hard driving and a clue that the roof in a Z car is an integral component of the chassis. You could always install a roll cage to restore the chassis rigidity, but then again, that defeats the purpose of a roadster. I've never driven one, but knowing how hard I push my Z car, I'm not inclined to break out the Sawz-All and have at my Z car's roof. Alex Avery At 03:53 PM 10/26/00 -0400, Andrew Jacobs wrote: >i actually drove a 240 with a similar conversion about 10 years ago. >i had a great service guy in virginia who sold me my 240 and i >happened to be there when a convertible 240 was in for service. the >conversion was well done and the car looked great--i asked who ran the >shop about possibly doing the same to my car, he told me to take a >ride in the car that was there first--when i did, it was almost >scary--the cowl moved all over the place, and when you would turn into >parking lots, etc., the whole chassis would twist and make creaking >noises when you passed over a dip or a rain gutter between the road >and the parking lot. i decided to keep the roof on my car after that. >andy >71 240z >69 2000 > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 14:57:30 2000 From: bob_wilson@agilent.com To: dneuman@quark.sfsu.edu, aavery@rica.net Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:55:22 -0600 Subject: RE: Was test now back to rumble seat. I was wondering where you put the gas tank with this rumble seat? Bob Wilson '70 1600 -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Neuman [mailto:dneuman@quark.sfsu.edu] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 1:25 PM To: aavery@rica.net Cc: ronday@home.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: Was test now back to rumble seat. Hello, Well I think any well designed rumble seat will have some sort of mechinism to lock the seatback into position. If the people were wear reasonable seat belts would they still faceplant into the rear deck? Hmm maybe make the rear deck removable. That would leave a lot of wiggle room. I wonder if the frame is overly strong enough to handle losing the tunk/ package shelf wall and the rear deck. Hmmmm... Why mess with such a good thing... Hell I don't know.. I guess I have always had a very serious case of 'tinker-itis' Daniel 69 2000 SF CA > Yeah, it might work as far as fitting people in, but one small fender > bender and the "rumble seat" passengers get RUMBLED with a double whammy: > 1. A face-plant right into the rear deck (LOTS harder than a padded > dashboard AND lots closer!); 2. Then the rear-hinged trunk lid comes > slamming down onto either your back (OUCH!!) or the back or your head, > thereby rebounding your face right back into the rear deck (Double > OUCHHHH!!). > > Me thinks we'll keep our roadster a two seater for now, why mess with such > a good thing--eh? > > Alex Avery > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 15:06:27 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: bob_wilson@agilent.com Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:05:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Was test now back to rumble seat. Hello, Why can't the gass tank stay where it is?? You can build a very lightweight little bench seat (like on boats) and set it/mount it to the trunk floor? Aren't the trunk floors lower than the package shelf?? I was thinking the seat cushion assembly would raise you up to be evenwith the package shelf?? Daniel 69 2000 SF CA > I was wondering where you put the gas tank with this rumble seat? > > Bob Wilson '70 1600 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Neuman [mailto:dneuman@quark.sfsu.edu] > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 1:25 PM > To: aavery@rica.net > Cc: ronday@home.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: Was test now back to rumble seat. > > > Hello, > Well I think any well designed rumble seat will have some sort of > mechinism to lock the seatback into position. If the people were wear > reasonable seat belts would they still faceplant into the rear deck? Hmm > maybe make the rear deck removable. That would leave a lot of wiggle room. > I wonder if the frame is overly strong enough to handle losing the tunk/ > package shelf wall and the rear deck. Hmmmm... > Why mess with such a good thing... Hell I don't know.. I guess I > have > always had a very serious case of 'tinker-itis' > > Daniel 69 2000 > SF CA > > > > Yeah, it might work as far as fitting people in, but one small fender > > bender and the "rumble seat" passengers get RUMBLED with a double whammy: > > 1. A face-plant right into the rear deck (LOTS harder than a padded > > dashboard AND lots closer!); 2. Then the rear-hinged trunk lid comes > > slamming down onto either your back (OUCH!!) or the back or your head, > > thereby rebounding your face right back into the rear deck (Double > > OUCHHHH!!). > > > > Me thinks we'll keep our roadster a two seater for now, why mess with such > > a good thing--eh? > > > > Alex Avery > > > > > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 15:12:24 2000 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "Alex Avery" , "Andrew Jacobs" , Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 17:11:52 -0400 Subject: Re: z-roadster Same can be said for a Z V8 conversion. The structure has trouble keeping up with the 6. The torque of a V8 can tear apart a Z in less than 5,000 miles if the conversion doesn't include frame reinforcements. Paul OROC -----Original Message----- From: Alex Avery To: Andrew Jacobs ; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thursday, October 26, 2000 4:38 PM Subject: Re: z-roadster >As an enthusiastic Z car guy, the word on Z car roadsters is "Be careful," >for exactly the reasons noted below. Removing the roof on a Z unit-body >kills half the structural ridgidity. The Z body/chassis isn't all that >rigid to begin with--I know, I've stressed the rear C pillar joints (where >the top of the C pillar meets the rear of the roof) on several Z cars with >spirited driving. The filler on the joint bulges out very noticeably when >that happens, becuase it's right at eye level when you get out of the car. >("Oops! Uh, sorry Dude, I didn't know THAT was going to happen"). That >tells you how much stress those joints take under hard driving and a clue >that the roof in a Z car is an integral component of the chassis. > >You could always install a roll cage to restore the chassis rigidity, but >then again, that defeats the purpose of a roadster. I've never driven one, >but knowing how hard I push my Z car, I'm not inclined to break out the >Sawz-All and have at my Z car's roof. > >Alex Avery > >At 03:53 PM 10/26/00 -0400, Andrew Jacobs wrote: >>i actually drove a 240 with a similar conversion about 10 years ago. >>i had a great service guy in virginia who sold me my 240 and i >>happened to be there when a convertible 240 was in for service. the >>conversion was well done and the car looked great--i asked who ran the >>shop about possibly doing the same to my car, he told me to take a >>ride in the car that was there first--when i did, it was almost >>scary--the cowl moved all over the place, and when you would turn into >>parking lots, etc., the whole chassis would twist and make creaking >>noises when you passed over a dip or a rain gutter between the road >>and the parking lot. i decided to keep the roof on my car after that. >>andy >>71 240z >>69 2000 >> > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 15:27:15 2000 From: jschmi7@us.ibm.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:24:25 -0500 Subject: Calendar I have not seen any discussion of any Roadster calendar for next year. Is anyone contemplating it? John Schmitt Telecommuter Office # - 847-458-7829 Internal phonemail only - 847-240-4725 pager pin# 800-759-8888 pin 8710561 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 15:31:42 2000 From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us To: Daniel Neuman , ronday@home.com (Ronnie Day), Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:42:16 -0700 Subject: Re[2]: Was test now back to rumble seat. Alex, I just replied to Dan that I think it's a super idea. As far as getting hit in the back, you take your chances just stepping out the door in the morning. I see a lot of late model cars with rear seats just inches away from the rear tailgate, and those passengers would be much closer to a hit than in a rumble seat on a roadster. Take a look at the cars on the road, and you'll see I'm right. Just inches! And what about passengers on a motorcycle? Like I say, you take your chances in a lot of places. As for the rumble seat hinge slamming down the passenger, this can be taken care of by a properly designed frame mechanism, welded to the roadster frame. There's lots of those hinge-mounts in place on vans for the rear bench seat. Cut away the sheet metal between the passenger area and the trunk, and cut away the sheet metal floor of the trunk. Then dump the gas tank, and get fuel cells and relocate them. Build a support frame and weld it to the frame under the trunk. That ought to support the rumble seat just fine. Besides, with the tail-fins Dan is installing, the rumble seat will be many feet away from the rear-most part of the car! Fred - So.SF BADROC ____________________ Reply Separator _______________________ >Subject: Re: Was test now back to rumble seat. >Author: Alex Avery >Date: 10/26/2000 4:12 PM > >Yeah, it might work as far as fitting people in, but one small fender >bender and the "rumble seat" passengers get RUMBLED with a double >whammy: 1. A face-plant right into the rear deck (LOTS harder than a >padded dashboard AND lots closer!); 2. Then the rear-hinged trunk lid >comes slamming down onto either your back (OUCH!!) or the back or your >head, thereby rebounding your face right back into the rear deck (Double >OUCHHHH!!). > >Me thinks we'll keep our roadster a two seater for now, why mess with >such a good thing--eh? > >Alex Avery > >At 12:37 PM 10/26/00 -0700, Daniel Neuman wrote: >Hi Ron, >> I don't think the leg room would be a huge problem..well maybe >the >package shelf is not all that wide. If the trunk lid was hinged so >that >the passangers butts were as close as reasonable to the outer >trunk edge >it might work... Or it might just be for the kids?? Ever >sit in the back >seat of a karmin ghia?? Or a 911?? >> Daniel 69 2000 >> SF CA >> >>> >>> Oh it made it through just fine, Daniel. I suspect others are like >me, >>> sitting with their mouths hanging open wondering what in the world >you'll >> think of next! >>> >>> Don't you think leg room might be a bit lacking, not to say "short" >>> (sorry, just couldn't resist) in a setup like you're proposing? >>> >>> Just a thought, >>> Ron >>> >> From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 15:39:12 2000 From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us To: Andrew Jacobs , Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:47:30 -0700 Subject: Re[2]: z-roadster Gary, Also, wasn't there a recent thread about the 240Z crumbling in the front due to rust and loosing the suspension, because of the unibody design that is very different than our roadster body mounted to a rigid frame? The roadster is inherently more stable than a cut-top Z because of our separate frame. Fred - So.SF _________________________adster Author: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com Date: 10/26/2000 1:18 PM Look up the weight numbers for the hardtop and convertible versions of the same car, any car, sometime. You'll see that the convertible is always heavier. A hardtop is a mechanically efficient way to stiffen an automobile's structure - take it away and you have to add heavier (both in section AND weight) members to the chassis to approach the same amount of rigidity. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA Andrew Jacobs wrote: > i actually drove a 240 with a similar conversion about 10 years ago. > i had a great service guy in virginia who sold me my 240 and i > happened to be there when a convertible 240 was in for service. the > conversion was well done and the car looked great--i asked who ran the > shop about possibly doing the same to my car, he told me to take a > ride in the car that was there first--when i did, it was almost > scary--the cowl moved all over the place, and when you would turn into > parking lots, etc., the whole chassis would twist and make creaking > noises when you passed over a dip or a rain gutter between the road > and the parking lot. i decided to keep the roof on my car after that. > andy > 71 240z > 69 2000 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 16:01:46 2000 From: Jerry Sharp To: "'Paul'" <9laser3@bright.net>, Alex Avery , Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:06:06 -0400 Subject: RE: z-roadster As a case in point, back in 1965 or 1966, the Plymouth barracuda came out with the 383, in addition to the standard slant 6 or the 273/318. Like the 240Z. the barracuda was also a uni-body car. A friend had a 383 version. The barracuda is sturdier than the 240Z. Anyway, after about a year, he could not open the doors because the body was so twisted. Needless to say, he was not a happy camper. jls -----Original Message----- From: Paul [mailto:9laser3@bright.net] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 5:12 PM To: Alex Avery; Andrew Jacobs; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: z-roadster Same can be said for a Z V8 conversion. The structure has trouble keeping up with the 6. The torque of a V8 can tear apart a Z in less than 5,000 miles if the conversion doesn't include frame reinforcements. Paul OROC From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 16:10:35 2000 From: Mark Dent To: jschmi7@us.ibm.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:06:52 -0400 Subject: Re: Calendar At 04:24 PM 10/26/00 -0500, jschmi7@us.ibm.com wrote: >I have not seen any discussion of any Roadster calendar for next year. Is >anyone contemplating it? Uh not me. Probably not Calspeed either Mark Baltimore 1968 1600 1967 2000 http://www.datsunroadsters.com http://www.roadster.org From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 16:16:32 2000 From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com To: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 15:09:07 -0700 Subject: Re: z-roadster Yes - a simple separate chassis/frame unit and body is the way to go for a convertible, though with modern CAD software and the analytical capability it brings, sizing and placing the requisite structures in a unibody is much simpler than it was in the past. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us wrote: > Gary, > > Also, wasn't there a recent thread about the 240Z crumbling in the front > due to rust and loosing the suspension, because of the unibody design that > is very different than our roadster body mounted to a rigid frame? The > roadster is inherently more stable than a cut-top Z because of our separate > frame. > > Fred - So.SF > > _________________________adster > Author: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com > Date: 10/26/2000 1:18 PM > > Look up the weight numbers for the hardtop and convertible versions of the same > car, any > car, sometime. You'll see that the convertible is always heavier. A hardtop is a > mechanically efficient way to stiffen an automobile's structure - take it away > and you > have to add heavier (both in section AND weight) members to the chassis to > approach the > same amount of rigidity. > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > > Andrew Jacobs wrote: > > > i actually drove a 240 with a similar conversion about 10 years ago. > > i had a great service guy in virginia who sold me my 240 and i > > happened to be there when a convertible 240 was in for service. the > > conversion was well done and the car looked great--i asked who ran the > > shop about possibly doing the same to my car, he told me to take a > > ride in the car that was there first--when i did, it was almost > > scary--the cowl moved all over the place, and when you would turn into > > parking lots, etc., the whole chassis would twist and make creaking > > noises when you passed over a dip or a rain gutter between the road > > and the parking lot. i decided to keep the roof on my car after that. > > andy > > 71 240z > > 69 2000 > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 16:47:46 2000 From: "Andrew Murphy" To: stickerman@home.com Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 15:47:14 PDT Subject: Re: Calendar All, It is so expensive to make a calendar that you cannot believe it. Calspeed can attest to how much he lost making it. It was a labor of love not a labor of profit. My shirt giveaway is a small example of this. You don't do it for the money. Andrew Murphy SoCalROC >From: Mark Dent >Reply-To: Mark Dent >To: jschmi7@us.ibm.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Re: Calendar >Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:06:52 -0400 > >At 04:24 PM 10/26/00 -0500, jschmi7@us.ibm.com wrote: > >I have not seen any discussion of any Roadster calendar for next year. >Is > >anyone contemplating it? > > > >Uh not me. Probably not Calspeed either >Mark >Baltimore >1968 1600 >1967 2000 >http://www.datsunroadsters.com >http://www.roadster.org > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 17:11:43 2000 From: "Stephen McCartney" To: HIGHKIX4@aol.com Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 23:11:17 GMT Subject: Re: pollution, was unknown controls: (OT, now!) Don't get me started! World population isn't a problem for our environment. But 20% of the world's population is using 80% of our resources. And it's easy to use less resources in our day-to-day living, without reducing quality of life. But I could go on and on about this. And this isn't really the place for it, so... >From: HIGHKIX4@aol.com >To: >Subject: Re: pollution, was unknown controls >Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 07:48:55 EDT > >I agree, and of course the number one way to >solve the worlds problems is to stabilize or >reduce population. ZPG! >..but dont go outlawing my roadster, or my >72 510 wagon (30mpg) either... >Jim >Chesapeake Va _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 17:16:30 2000 From: "Ben Zech" To: dneuman@quark.sfsu.edu, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 23:16:10 GMT Subject: Re: test sure did,,,,,,,,,, while were at it, how about a 4 door stretch roadster with a hot tub in the back? >From: Daniel Neuman >Reply-To: Daniel Neuman >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: test >Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 11:31:31 -0700 (PDT) > >Hello > This is a test..Don't know if any of my posts are getting through. >Did the one about the rumble seat come through?? > > Daniel > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 17:19:28 2000 From: "Stephen McCartney" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 23:19:01 GMT Subject: Mazda MX5 (Miata, I think) I just read that Mazda are bringing out a new model of MX5 (which most people here call a Miata, right?) that will bring it's power up to about 112kw, IIRC. So now it's on par with a Solex 2000? Has anyone here got experiences in taking on these things? I'd assume the Mazda would handle better, but maybe isn't as quick? I'd never thought that I could beat one, but on paper, it's looking possible... _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 17:35:38 2000 From: "Ofarrell, Fergus" To: "'roadster.netlist'" Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:34:42 -0700 Subject: Subject: Another one of Daniels crazy ideas.... Ref: The Rumble Roadster Daniel, I like the way your mind works. I am constantly surrounded (in work) by those unable to see 'outside-the-box'. This, The Rumble Roadster: the mental picture really made me smile, because with a healthy bit of fab and immense number of man-hours, it is entirely do-able. a few things that spring to mind, read below: <.....You would have to make up new hinges for the trunk so that it would open from the oppisite side it does now. These would have to be pretty heavy duty and you would have to reinforce the trunk lid and the wall of the trunk that you are mounting to> The nearest 'big and strong, can't go wrong' structure is the two tongues of the frame sticking backward. Stiffening the body enough for two people to do all the clambering around getting in and out they'll be doing, will be difficult at best. (one of my buddies is 6' tall and 300+ lbs, and he helps scoot himself into the passenger seat by grabbing on to the top of my windshield, and I think he may be starting to flex the windshield, or I might just be freaking out) What you are building is a cantilevered balcony for two with a roadster faceplate, kinda..?? (sounds like a Gene Kelly lyric) Uh-oh, I just realized the Model T arrangement has the rumble-humans weight/CG somewhere over the rear axle, therefore you may be building a wheelie mobile. This would be really cool but hard to drive on Lombard Street or the road into that park in Solvang. I think you'd have to add turning brakes or a vertical rudder!! Next up: The Articulated Roadster!! you've seen those Muni-buses with the rubber joint in the middle.... well.... I'll shut up now. Fergus O'Farrell 69 2000 (w/ no joints or balconies, not YET) From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 17:45:35 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: motormite@hotmail.com Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:45:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: test Now Ben, I was actually being serious. Just cause I got an imagination and am not afraid to use it in regards to my roadster...you don't have to be mean ;) Daniel 69 200 SF CA > sure did,,,,,,,,,, > while were at it, how about a 4 door stretch roadster with a hot tub in the > back? > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 17:53:57 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Andrew Jacobs" , Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 19:48:37 -0400 Subject: Re: z-roadster Andy, Not all convertible conversions were created equal!!!!! I have seen great jobs done and others that were an accident waiting to happen especially with a unibody car and one that wasn't all that solid with the top on as compared to cars today. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Jacobs To: Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 3:53 PM Subject: z-roadster > i actually drove a 240 with a similar conversion about 10 years ago. > i had a great service guy in virginia who sold me my 240 and i > happened to be there when a convertible 240 was in for service. the > conversion was well done and the car looked great--i asked who ran the > shop about possibly doing the same to my car, he told me to take a > ride in the car that was there first--when i did, it was almost > scary--the cowl moved all over the place, and when you would turn into > parking lots, etc., the whole chassis would twist and make creaking > noises when you passed over a dip or a rain gutter between the road > and the parking lot. i decided to keep the roof on my car after that. > andy > 71 240z > 69 2000 > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 17:58:45 2000 From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us To: HIGHKIX4@aol.com, "Stephen McCartney" Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:43:19 -0700 Subject: Re[2]: pollution, was unknown controls: (OT, now!) I see that 80/20 rule all the time. Seems that only 20% of the roadster owners have 80% of the running cars, 20% of the roadster owners own 80% of the cars, 20% of the roadster owners make up 80% of the show attendees, 20% of the roadster owners have 80% of the problems with our cars, 20% of the roadsters have 80% of the rust, etc. Fred - So.SF (all in fun, I did say "seems that...") BADROC __________________ Reply Separator _______________________ >Subject: Re: pollution, was unknown controls: (OT, now!) >Author: "Stephen McCartney" >Date: 10/26/2000 11:11 PM > >Don't get me started! >World population isn't a problem for our environment. >But 20% of the world's population is using 80% of our resources. >And it's easy to use less resources in our day-to-day living, without >reducing quality of life. >But I could go on and on about this. And this isn't really the place for >it, so... > > >>From: HIGHKIX4@aol.com >>To: >>Subject: Re: pollution, was unknown controls >>Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 07:48:55 EDT >> >>I agree, and of course the number one way to >>solve the worlds problems is to stabilize or >>reduce population. ZPG! >>..but dont go outlawing my roadster, or my >>72 510 wagon (30mpg) either... >>Jim >>Chesapeake Va From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 18:03:24 2000 From: Ken Smart To: Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 11:08:00 +1000 Subject: Re: Paper Roadster I too have been down this path here is a link to some I have. The first 2 are blank ie: great colouring in exercise for the kids (no age limit) the next 2 are coloured like mine. You may need to fix wobbly tyres they are in jpg and pdf http://www-networks.tip.CSIRO.AU/~ksmart/digidat/ Ken Smart Sydney Aus. 67.5 sr20de At 14:31 25/10/00 -0700, you wrote: >Hi Phil, > >I mentioned to Laurie that I have one. Not original, I pulled it off a >Japanese website, and part of it was obscured. I found it in my archives, >and I'm now mocking up a substitute. I figure if I make it different >enough, no lawyer will come looking for me. By coincidence, it'll look like >my roadster! > >Here's the link I found: > >http://car-graphic.cplaza.ne.jp/papercar/info/dpc02_05.html > >As you can see, the right rear fender is obscured. So have a go at it, if you >want to make a paper roadster you can get a crude one from that link graphic. > >Fred - So.SF > >______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ >Subject: Paper Roadster >Author: "Hall; Phillip" at ~ctl-internet-po >Date: 10/25/2000 2:26 PM > > >Someone had a copy of the paper Roadster from Japan. Could you email me - I >would like to get a copy of it if possible for personal use only. > >Talking to my office neighbor about Road Atlanta. He said "you drove your >Roadster to Atlanta!!!!". "I would never drive my Midget that far!" Now >that is why we drive Roadsters isn't it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >Happy Roadstering >Phil > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 18:09:30 2000 From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us To: dneuman@quark.sfsu.edu, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:52:45 -0700 Subject: Re[2]: test Now you know I'm going to have to modify my picture to have a double-wheeled axle in the rear to support all that weight. I'll get right on it... Old pic: http://www.2xtreme.net/fredkatz/images/p229c2.jpg Hmmn, oh hell while we're at it I might as well put in a rumble seat... Fred - So.SF ____________________ Reply Separator ________________________ >Subject: Re: test >Author: "Ben Zech" >Date: 10/26/2000 11:16 PM > >sure did,,,,,,,,,, >while were at it, how about a 4 door stretch roadster with a hot tub in >the back? > >>From: Daniel Neuman >Reply-To: Daniel Neuman > >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >>Subject: test >>Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 11:31:31 -0700 (PDT) > >>Hello >> This is a test..Don't know if any of my posts are getting through. >>Did the one about the rumble seat come through?? >> >> Daniel >> From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 18:24:03 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: Ofarrell.Fergus@hitco.com Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 17:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Subject: Another one of Daniels crazy ideas.... Hi Fergus, > Ref: The Rumble Roadster > Daniel, I like the way your mind works. I am constantly surrounded (in > work) by those unable to see 'outside-the-box'. > This, The Rumble Roadster: the mental picture really made me smile, because > with a healthy bit of fab and immense number of man-hours, it is entirely > do-able. Don't be such a party pooper. I don't think that it would take a team of mechanical engineers to figure it out. I'm big on doing lots of research first and having everything worked out before I start a project. In fact right now Ican see how to do the entire project except the exact form the hinges would have to take. Now that I think about it I think that the hinges will have to be mounted on the sides of the trunk lid. So the trunk would pivot up at the 3/4 away from the edge and not the edge. It would have to pivot up all the way to 30 deg past vertical and then somehow lower it self so only the top 2/3rds of the tunklid stuck out from the level of the trunk. > a few things that spring to mind, read below: > > <.....You would have to make > up new hinges for the trunk so that it would open from the oppisite side it > does now. These would have to be pretty heavy duty and you would have to > reinforce the trunk lid and the wall of the trunk that you are mounting to> > > The nearest 'big and strong, can't go wrong' structure is the two tongues of > the frame sticking backward. Stiffening the body enough for two people to do > all the clambering around getting in and out they'll be doing, will be > difficult at best. (one of my buddies is 6' tall and 300+ lbs, and he helps > scoot himself into the passenger seat by grabbing on to the top of my > windshield, and I think he may be starting to flex the windshield, or I > might just be freaking out) Most of these concerns you can take care of by instructing people how to get in and out and limiting the passangers to smaller people-you know kids bikini models etc.... And I think your 300 pound freind is definately flexing your wind shield-I never let people do that with my car. > Uh-oh, I just realized the Model T arrangement has the rumble-humans > weight/CG somewhere over the rear axle, therefore you may be building a > wheelie mobile. This would be really cool but hard to drive on Lombard > Street or the road into that park in Solvang. I think you'd have to add > turning brakes or a vertical rudder!! I saw several real rumble seats at a recent car show. Most of them had the people slightly behind the rear axle. Course these cars have a lot more weight up front also. In my design the passangers cog would be probably slightly behind the rear axle but nearer the rear axle than the rear bumbper. Daniel 69 2000 SF CA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 18:27:00 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: , "Andrew Jacobs" , Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 20:21:44 -0400 Subject: Re: Re[2]: z-roadster Fred, In the 80s I bought a 240 for $50 that had that exact problem. The front rails rotted and gave way and the whole right side suspension ended up in a design the designers didn't plan on. Also in the 80s I went to look at a raodster that had a Bob Sharp engine and rebuilt tranny that was so rusted the frame twisted. I shoulda bought it for the $1K the guy was asking for it just for the engine and tranny but I was in the midst of restoring my Z and no $. Oh well. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Andrew Jacobs ; Cc: Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 4:47 PM Subject: Re[2]: z-roadster > Gary, > > Also, wasn't there a recent thread about the 240Z crumbling in the front > due to rust and loosing the suspension, because of the unibody design that > is very different than our roadster body mounted to a rigid frame? The > roadster is inherently more stable than a cut-top Z because of our separate > frame. > > Fred - So.SF > > _________________________adster > Author: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com > Date: 10/26/2000 1:18 PM > > > Look up the weight numbers for the hardtop and convertible versions of the same > car, any > car, sometime. You'll see that the convertible is always heavier. A hardtop is a > mechanically efficient way to stiffen an automobile's structure - take it away > and you > have to add heavier (both in section AND weight) members to the chassis to > approach the > same amount of rigidity. > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > > Andrew Jacobs wrote: > > > i actually drove a 240 with a similar conversion about 10 years ago. > > i had a great service guy in virginia who sold me my 240 and i > > happened to be there when a convertible 240 was in for service. the > > conversion was well done and the car looked great--i asked who ran the > > shop about possibly doing the same to my car, he told me to take a > > ride in the car that was there first--when i did, it was almost > > scary--the cowl moved all over the place, and when you would turn into > > parking lots, etc., the whole chassis would twist and make creaking > > noises when you passed over a dip or a rain gutter between the road > > and the parking lot. i decided to keep the roof on my car after that. > > andy > > 71 240z > > 69 2000 > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 18:28:33 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: , Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 20:23:08 -0400 Subject: Re: z-roadster My Miata proves it! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Andrew Jacobs ; Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 6:09 PM Subject: Re: z-roadster > Yes - a simple separate chassis/frame unit and body is the way to go for a convertible, > though with modern CAD software and the analytical capability it brings, sizing and > placing the requisite structures in a unibody is much simpler than it was in the past. > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > > Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us wrote: > > > Gary, > > > > Also, wasn't there a recent thread about the 240Z crumbling in the front > > due to rust and loosing the suspension, because of the unibody design that > > is very different than our roadster body mounted to a rigid frame? The > > roadster is inherently more stable than a cut-top Z because of our separate > > frame. > > > > Fred - So.SF > > > > _________________________adster > > Author: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com > > Date: 10/26/2000 1:18 PM > > > > Look up the weight numbers for the hardtop and convertible versions of the same > > car, any > > car, sometime. You'll see that the convertible is always heavier. A hardtop is a > > mechanically efficient way to stiffen an automobile's structure - take it away > > and you > > have to add heavier (both in section AND weight) members to the chassis to > > approach the > > same amount of rigidity. > > > > Gary McCormick > > San Jose, CA > > > > Andrew Jacobs wrote: > > > > > i actually drove a 240 with a similar conversion about 10 years ago. > > > i had a great service guy in virginia who sold me my 240 and i > > > happened to be there when a convertible 240 was in for service. the > > > conversion was well done and the car looked great--i asked who ran the > > > shop about possibly doing the same to my car, he told me to take a > > > ride in the car that was there first--when i did, it was almost > > > scary--the cowl moved all over the place, and when you would turn into > > > parking lots, etc., the whole chassis would twist and make creaking > > > noises when you passed over a dip or a rain gutter between the road > > > and the parking lot. i decided to keep the roof on my car after that. > > > andy > > > 71 240z > > > 69 2000 > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 18:47:39 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Stephen McCartney" , Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 20:42:10 -0400 Subject: Re: Mazda MX5 (Miata, I think) The new 2001 Miata has 155 HP SAE. I doubt that most Roadsters, including Solex models, would be able to keep up with it although off the line the Roadster might be able to take it because of torque and cubic inches but the six speed tranny does have a lower 1st gear so it may be close. With 116HP my car tops out at about 115, with 155HP it's probably closer to 130 or so. In the handling department there is no comparision. the Miata is much stiffer and well balanced than any Roadster I have ever driven and has better steering. My Konied, sway barred, Miata will blow most Roadsters away in the corners, except for Calspeed. I'm not talking about race cars here but street cars. 30+ years of technology has made the Miata a great car. Mine is a 91 and the 2001 Miatas are supposed to be much stiffer and better handling. While I love my Roadster, I also love my Miata. IMHO, Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen McCartney To: Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 7:19 PM Subject: Mazda MX5 (Miata, I think) > I just read that Mazda are bringing out a new model of MX5 (which most > people here call a Miata, right?) that will bring it's power up to about > 112kw, IIRC. > > So now it's on par with a Solex 2000? > > Has anyone here got experiences in taking on these things? I'd assume the > Mazda would handle better, but maybe isn't as quick? I'd never thought that > I could beat one, but on paper, it's looking possible... > _________________________________________________________________________ > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 19:00:58 2000 From: sochoux To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:00:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: 67.5 on Yahoo Auction And it looks good too! http://page.auctions.yahoo.com/auction/31191922 __________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 19:37:33 2000 From: HIGHKIX4@aol.com To: sgam@hotmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 21:36:45 EDT Subject: Re: Mazda MX5 (Miata, I think) I am not sure what model it was, or if it was stock, but I quite easily walked away from a Miata. I have a 67 pushrod 2L, 5spd bored .040 over, with free flowing exhaust and 240Z carbs, ported head, and big valves so mabe it wasnt too fair. I downshifted to 4th at about 60 or so MPH (dont know for sure speedo dosnt work) and shifted back to 5th at 5K, no need to press on to 6K as he was pretty far back and discouraged. So maybe he could take me on the corners, dont know that yet....... I would guess in an exteme situation I could have used a bit of third and then all of fourth, so there was quite a bit left for other faster cars.... Having fun in Chesapeake Va Jim From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 20:10:50 2000 From: "Mark Gill" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 02:09:55 GMT Subject: Friendly Texans help me Enjoy the Ride Howdie List, Texans are really friendly people! If all of you could be Texans, you would know what I mean. You may meet a few Texans in life. But remember your social graces and never ask if someone's from Texas. One Famous Rule of Etiquette is "Never ask a person if he is from Texas. If they are from Texas, they will be sure to mention it in every conversation. And if they are not from Texas, you do not want to embarrass them". My recently purchased California Roadster has worked hard to become a Texan and really enjoys motoring to Dallas on an almost daily basis. Have kind of gotten use to the friendly honks, waves, and thumbs up (much different from the finger as in some other states :') that the Roadster receives on a daily basis. I have been amazed at the wide variety of folks, who have made a point of commenting while in rush hour traffic, gas stations, restaurants, etc. The Roadster has gotten favorable compliments from Cadillac to Lexus drivers to teenagers in pickups. Often people will work their way across several lanes of congested rush hour traffic to ask about and compliment the classic Roadster good looks. A few weeks back, early one morning leaving for work, it was still pitch dark. The night air was cooler than normal, so I had put on my light jacket to keep off the pre-dawn chill. The slow rumble of the idling Roadster, brought a pleasing musical note to the silent motionless morning air as I climbed aboard for the 40 plus mile commute. Backing the topless Roadster out of the drive, noticed that the moon was almost full. My mind wandered back to my much younger high school dating years. Oh, to be a youngster in school again, and have a cool Roadster convertible rather than your parents old Army green Chevy. Boy, would the girls have dug me in a convertible. Another glance at the driver through the mirror smoked that pipe dream. As the Roadster wound through the gears and the neighborhood, we came upon a loading school bus coming down the opposite side of the street. The yellow and red lights awoke the darkness with commanding flashes. The Roadster came to a law respecting stop and I gave the accelerator a couple of kicks to soothe the rumbling two litre's idle . A young boy probably around 12 or 13 wandered out of the house. Rubbing his eyes he slowly stumbled to the patient school bus. Then off to spend a boring day with some ancient, uninspired teachers (that thought brought the back to school dream back to rude reality). Ending the daydream, found me glancing toward the clear, starlit sky. It was then I noticed that several of the buses windows were coming down. I could just imagine a bunch of teenage boys, trying to get the girls to complain about being too cold. Of course, the boys don't mind because they're tough. Then all at once, four or five small hands emerged through the open windows, and the Datsun Roadster receives a group teenager "thumbs up." The buses flashers flick off, and I wave a friendly thanks to my fellow though much, much younger Datsun Roadster admirers. Of course, the Roadster can't wave. So it says "Howdie" and "Thanks ya'll" by leaving respectable strips of rubber in two gears. The Datsun Roadster may have been born around the same time as these young teenagers' geezer parents, but Texans young and old recognize and appreciate the Datsun Roadster cache and ageless styling. Enjoy the ride everytime you can and share your Friendly Texas Smile with the top down! Mark Gill Denton, TX SRL311 14359 1970 The Roadster's starter works great at times and not at all at other times. My practice recently is to look for hills to park on, which tends to be a real challenge in North Texas. Thankfully, I have made a lot of new Texas friends asking for a push start with great frequency. If it hadn't been for places other than Texas, we probably would not have had electric starters. Thanks ya'll, there is lot of good in everybody from every state and country. _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 20:23:42 2000 From: Shipster2L@aol.com To: willie2570@hotmail.com Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 22:22:41 EDT Subject: Re: Friendly Texans help me Enjoy the Ride Great story, and well told. You have a way with words. I get a similar reaction quite often here in San Antonio. Most everyone appreciates our classic Roadsters, and us cool guys that drive them! Hope to meet you at one of our friendly Texas rallies. Ship '68 2000 w/ over 20 years of Roadster driving pleasure From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 20:34:11 2000 From: "Taro Kusunose" To: willie2570@hotmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 19:33:35 PDT Subject: Re: Friendly Texans help me Enjoy the Ride All beautiful, 'cept the following: >A young boy probably around 12 or 13 wandered out of the house. Rubbing >his >eyes he slowly stumbled to the patient school bus. Then off to spend a >boring day with some ancient, uninspired teachers (that thought brought the >back to school dream back to rude reality). Ahh c'mon, teachers are great!!! My wife and her teacher colleagues are inspired; they work d*mn hard to try to keep their kids excited about learning. The young lad was probably tired from a midnight playstation marathon session! : ) Too much GT, GT2.... Taro in Seattle '67 1600 _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 21:29:12 2000 From: "Stephen McCartney" To: HIGHKIX4@aol.com Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 03:28:45 GMT Subject: Re: Mazda MX5 (Miata, I think) Cool! One question, though: *Pushrod* 2L? Is that a bored out 1600? >From: HIGHKIX4@aol.com >To: sgam@hotmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Re: Mazda MX5 (Miata, I think) >Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 21:36:45 EDT > >I am not sure what model it was, or if it was stock, >but I quite easily walked away from a Miata. I have a >67 pushrod 2L, 5spd bored .040 over, with free flowing >exhaust and 240Z carbs, ported head, and big valves >so mabe it wasnt too fair. I downshifted to >4th at about 60 or so MPH (dont know for sure >speedo dosnt work) and shifted back to 5th >at 5K, no need to press on to 6K as he was >pretty far back and discouraged. So maybe he >could take me on the corners, dont know that yet....... >I would guess in an exteme situation I could have used >a bit of third and then all of fourth, so there was quite a bit left >for other faster cars.... >Having fun in Chesapeake Va >Jim _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 21:38:18 2000 From: "Amy & Erik" To: Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 22:47:20 -0500 Subject: re: newbie mechanic needs help Wannabe mechanic here. Thanks for all the advice folks. It seems I have a lot of different things to check next week when I have time. How is this for the order? 1. check to see if my dist is re-curved for a de-smogged motor. 1.5 check points for clean contact. 2. Check timing. 3. check fuel pressure 4. Check float bowl levels 5.Cean carbs. 6. Instal 1lb coffee can sized polished stainless exhaust tip. ( or should I do this first?) 7. Adhere 40 stickers of aftermarket manufactures equipment which my car more than likely does not have. I was not too excited to see that my timing inspection cover was sealed not with a gasket, but with clear silicone. I would be willing to bet my rings are actually wire coat hangers wrapped around the pistons. Hmm, anyone done a ford 4 cyl swap? The lure of cheap readily available parts is calling. No- must resist..... Erik 2L1600 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 22:10:25 2000 From: "J Friederich" To: Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 21:23:36 -0700 Subject: RedLine tranny oil? I see that there are 2 Red Line tranny oils - MTL and MT-90 (or something like that?) What is the difference, and what might work best for a well used Roadster tranny? Is it worth trying? I've got a bit of syncro trouble downshifting to 2nd... -John F '69 2000 Solex, Las Vegas From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 22:51:53 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 00:51:16 EDT Subject: Re: Calendar Hello, Before we let this get out of hand... I really didn't loose a lot of money. Although I havn't talk $$$ about that project, (and it wasn't supposed to be a money making project) I will admit that I spent appx $12,000 which included the photography, development, travel expenses, office supplies, contracting a printer... etc. Actually, for what I produced I didn't spend to much. How much did I loose? Well, close to 2K. No big deal. What did I gain? I met so many people in the process that I would never complain about the loss. I was able to meet many folks in the Nissan and Datsun industry. I was fortunate to meet and have dinner with Mr. K at a private function. And at this private function which just so happened to be held at the home of the gentleman who was responsible for the Nissan Advertisement Campaign. Oh... the house was incredible to say the least. I made many friends along the "Calendar Road" to fame. Yeah, I spent some bucks of my own but I think it was money well spent. I gained notoriety as the calendar guy. I still get called that from so many people at a first meeting. I think it is great. I was already to produce another calendar. Yes, you heard right. The exact same type and quality of calendar that I made in 1999. But... Mary and I had a baby and so I threw in the towel until a future year. Photographs, text, layout ... etc. have been completed. So, when things slow down alittle at the homestead expect to see a Year 200? calendar. So now you know... Michael "Calspeed" Carion From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Thu Oct 26 23:05:44 2000 From: dhbain@qwest.net To: J Friederich Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 22:00:15 -0700 Subject: Re: RedLine tranny oil? Don't remember the difference but after telling the Red Line company guy what I was putting it in, he told me to use MT-90. It's been in a year now, works fine! J Friederich wrote: > I see that there are 2 Red Line tranny oils - MTL and MT-90 (or something > like that?) What is the difference, and what might work best for a well > used Roadster tranny? Is it worth trying? I've got a bit of syncro trouble > downshifting to 2nd... From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 02:13:58 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: dneuman@quark.sfsu.edu, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 04:12:35 EDT Subject: Re: Another one of Daniels crazy ideas.... In a message dated 10/26/00 1:27:35 AM !!!First Boot!!!, dneuman@quark.sfsu.edu writes: << Allright I got another crazy idea the other day. Here's my idea... A roadster rumble seat. Wouldn't that be neat-o. You would have to make up new hinges for the trunk so that it would open from the oppisite side it does now. These would have to be pretty heavy duty and you would have to reinforce the trunk lid and the wall of the trunk that.. >> Wow... Daniel. You are radical. But I think you better reinforce the floor to. Are you sure you want to put all of that weight on the trunk bottom. You only have two metal straps holding the gastank up. And those straps are held on by four corroding bolts. Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 02:32:20 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: datsunmike@nyc.rr.com, sgam@hotmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 04:31:54 EDT Subject: Re: Mazda MX5 (Miata, I think) In a message dated 10/27/00 12:48:52 AM !!!First Boot!!!, datsunmike@nyc.rr.com writes: << My Konied, sway barred, Miata will blow most Roadsters away in the corners, except for Calspeed. >> Oh man...! I am so honored. But please, I wouldnt be so sure about that comment. ;>) Michael "Calspeed" Carion From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 06:11:08 2000 From: "Ben Zech" To: dneuman@quark.sfsu.edu Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 12:05:18 GMT Subject: Re: test I was serious, just think of all the money you could make renting it out. >From: Daniel Neuman >Reply-To: Daniel Neuman >To: motormite@hotmail.com >CC: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Re: test >Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:45:12 -0700 (PDT) > >Now Ben, > I was actually being serious. Just cause I got an imagination and >am not afraid to use it in regards to my roadster...you don't have to be >mean ;) > Daniel 69 200 > SF CA > > > sure did,,,,,,,,,, > > while were at it, how about a 4 door stretch roadster with a hot tub in >the > > back? > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 06:11:42 2000 From: "Ben Zech" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 12:08:49 GMT Subject: Gas tank leaks...Thanks for all the responses Thanks to everyone that responded. It looks like I got an early model sending unit with a late model "O" ring gasket when I ordered from one of the vendors. Looks like I will need to fashion a gasket of my own. thanks again. BZ-RZ N.C. SPL/SRL "SEROC" motormite@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 06:46:05 2000 From: "David A. Fox" To: willie2570@hotmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 08:45:34 EDT Subject: Re: Friendly Texans help me Enjoy the Ride Nice story. I too wish I'd have owned my toy while in high school. Better late than never though. BS&CW, DAFox ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Mark Gill" Reply-To: "Mark Gill" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Friendly Texans help me Enjoy the Ride Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 02:09:55 GMT Howdie List, Texans are really friendly people! If all of you could be Texans, you would know what I mean. You may meet a few Texans in life. But remember your social graces and never ask if someone's from Texas. One Famous Rule of Etiquette is "Never ask a person if he is from Texas. If they are from Texas, they will be sure to mention it in every conversation. And if they are not from Texas, you do not want to embarrass them". My recently purchased California Roadster has worked hard to become a Texan and really enjoys motoring to Dallas on an almost daily basis. Have kind of gotten use to the friendly honks, waves, and thumbs up (much different from the finger as in some other states :') that the Roadster receives on a daily basis. I have been amazed at the wide variety of folks, who have made a point of commenting while in rush hour traffic, gas stations, restaurants, etc. The Roadster has gotten favorable compliments from Cadillac to Lexus drivers to teenagers in pickups. Often people will work their way across several lanes of congested rush hour traffic to ask about and compliment the classic Roadster good looks. A few weeks back, early one morning leaving for work, it was still pitch dark. The night air was cooler than normal, so I had put on my light jacket to keep off the pre-dawn chill. The slow rumble of the idling Roadster, brought a pleasing musical note to the silent motionless morning air as I climbed aboard for the 40 plus mile commute. Backing the topless Roadster out of the drive, noticed that the moon was almost full. My mind wandered back to my much younger high school dating years. Oh, to be a youngster in school again, and have a cool Roadster convertible rather than your parents old Army green Chevy. Boy, would the girls have dug me in a convertible. Another glance at the driver through the mirror smoked that pipe dream. As the Roadster wound through the gears and the neighborhood, we came upon a loading school bus coming down the opposite side of the street. The yellow and red lights awoke the darkness with commanding flashes. The Roadster came to a law respecting stop and I gave the accelerator a couple of kicks to soothe the rumbling two litre's idle . A young boy probably around 12 or 13 wandered out of the house. Rubbing his eyes he slowly stumbled to the patient school bus. Then off to spend a boring day with some ancient, uninspired teachers (that thought brought the back to school dream back to rude reality). Ending the daydream, found me glancing toward the clear, starlit sky. It was then I noticed that several of the buses windows were coming down. I could just imagine a bunch of teenage boys, trying to get the girls to complain about being too cold. Of course, the boys don't mind because they're tough. Then all at once, four or five small hands emerged through the open windows, and the Datsun Roadster receives a group teenager "thumbs up." The buses flashers flick off, and I wave a friendly thanks to my fellow though much, much younger Datsun Roadster admirers. Of course, the Roadster can't wave. So it says "Howdie" and "Thanks ya'll" by leaving respectable strips of rubber in two gears. The Datsun Roadster may have been born around the same time as these young teenagers' geezer parents, but Texans young and old recognize and appreciate the Datsun Roadster cache and ageless styling. Enjoy the ride everytime you can and share your Friendly Texas Smile with the top down! Mark Gill Denton, TX SRL311 14359 1970 The Roadster's starter works great at times and not at all at other times. My practice recently is to look for hills to park on, which tends to be a real challenge in North Texas. Thankfully, I have made a lot of new Texas friends asking for a push start with great frequency. If it hadn't been for places other than Texas, we probably would not have had electric starters. Thanks ya'll, there is lot of good in everybody from every state and country. _________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 06:54:07 2000 From: To: aavery@rica.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 07:53:34 -0500 Subject: Z Roadster >>I've never driven one, >>but knowing how hard I push my Z car, I'm not inclined to break out the >>Sawz-All and have at my Z car's roof. Hear, Hear, I'll second that!! Chris Brucciani 1968 2000 1973 240Z From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 07:10:45 2000 From: To: motormite@hotmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 08:10:17 -0500 Subject: Test And MG Tailights!?!? >Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 23:16:10 GMT >From: "Ben Zech" >Subject: Re: test >sure did,,,,,,,,,, >while were at it, how about a 4 door stretch roadster with a hot tub in the >back? >From: Daniel Neuman >Reply-To: Daniel Neuman >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: test >Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 11:31:31 -0700 (PDT) > >Hello > This is a test..Don't know if any of my posts are getting through. >Did the one about the rumble seat come through?? > > Daniel > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 07:26:04 2000 From: bob_wilson@agilent.com To: dhbain@qwest.net, jfried@anv.net Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 07:25:36 -0600 Subject: RE: RedLine tranny oil? Can you explain what is better about this MT-90 versus any 90 weight oil from auto parts stores? Is it better for some reason? I have rebuilt my 4 speed tranny but have yet to put the oil back in. ...would like to put in what is best. Thanks, Bob Wilson '70 1600 (soon to be stroker) -----Original Message----- From: dhbain@qwest.net [mailto:dhbain@qwest.net] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 10:00 PM To: J Friederich Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: RedLine tranny oil? Don't remember the difference but after telling the Red Line company guy what I was putting it in, he told me to use MT-90. It's been in a year now, works fine! J Friederich wrote: > I see that there are 2 Red Line tranny oils - MTL and MT-90 (or something > like that?) What is the difference, and what might work best for a well > used Roadster tranny? Is it worth trying? I've got a bit of syncro trouble > downshifting to 2nd... From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 08:02:00 2000 From: "Mitch Planck" To: Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 09:53:59 -0400 Subject: RE: Friendly Texans help me Enjoy the Ride I did, same one I have now, 15 years later. I like owning a car that's the same age as me too. I'll be shoving it into the back of my garage in a few weeks for winter, but I plan on starting a somewhat thorough restore. Some of my winter projects will be recovering the seats and refabricating some of the interior vinyl pieces. I'm thinking of charcoal grey. -Mitch '69 1600 Chelsea, MI http:\\beladi.stormloader.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of David A. Fox Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 8:46 AM To: willie2570@hotmail.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: Friendly Texans help me Enjoy the Ride Nice story. I too wish I'd have owned my toy while in high school. Better late than never though. BS&CW, DAFox ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Mark Gill" Reply-To: "Mark Gill" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Friendly Texans help me Enjoy the Ride Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 02:09:55 GMT Howdie List, Texans are really friendly people! If all of you could be Texans, you would know what I mean. You may meet a few Texans in life. But remember your social graces and never ask if someone's from Texas. One Famous Rule of Etiquette is "Never ask a person if he is from Texas. If they are from Texas, they will be sure to mention it in every conversation. And if they are not from Texas, you do not want to embarrass them". My recently purchased California Roadster has worked hard to become a Texan and really enjoys motoring to Dallas on an almost daily basis. Have kind of gotten use to the friendly honks, waves, and thumbs up (much different from the finger as in some other states :') that the Roadster receives on a daily basis. I have been amazed at the wide variety of folks, who have made a point of commenting while in rush hour traffic, gas stations, restaurants, etc. The Roadster has gotten favorable compliments from Cadillac to Lexus drivers to teenagers in pickups. Often people will work their way across several lanes of congested rush hour traffic to ask about and compliment the classic Roadster good looks. A few weeks back, early one morning leaving for work, it was still pitch dark. The night air was cooler than normal, so I had put on my light jacket to keep off the pre-dawn chill. The slow rumble of the idling Roadster, brought a pleasing musical note to the silent motionless morning air as I climbed aboard for the 40 plus mile commute. Backing the topless Roadster out of the drive, noticed that the moon was almost full. My mind wandered back to my much younger high school dating years. Oh, to be a youngster in school again, and have a cool Roadster convertible rather than your parents old Army green Chevy. Boy, would the girls have dug me in a convertible. Another glance at the driver through the mirror smoked that pipe dream. As the Roadster wound through the gears and the neighborhood, we came upon a loading school bus coming down the opposite side of the street. The yellow and red lights awoke the darkness with commanding flashes. The Roadster came to a law respecting stop and I gave the accelerator a couple of kicks to soothe the rumbling two litre's idle . A young boy probably around 12 or 13 wandered out of the house. Rubbing his eyes he slowly stumbled to the patient school bus. Then off to spend a boring day with some ancient, uninspired teachers (that thought brought the back to school dream back to rude reality). Ending the daydream, found me glancing toward the clear, starlit sky. It was then I noticed that several of the buses windows were coming down. I could just imagine a bunch of teenage boys, trying to get the girls to complain about being too cold. Of course, the boys don't mind because they're tough. Then all at once, four or five small hands emerged through the open windows, and the Datsun Roadster receives a group teenager "thumbs up." The buses flashers flick off, and I wave a friendly thanks to my fellow though much, much younger Datsun Roadster admirers. Of course, the Roadster can't wave. So it says "Howdie" and "Thanks ya'll" by leaving respectable strips of rubber in two gears. The Datsun Roadster may have been born around the same time as these young teenagers' geezer parents, but Texans young and old recognize and appreciate the Datsun Roadster cache and ageless styling. Enjoy the ride everytime you can and share your Friendly Texas Smile with the top down! Mark Gill Denton, TX SRL311 14359 1970 The Roadster's starter works great at times and not at all at other times. My practice recently is to look for hills to park on, which tends to be a real challenge in North Texas. Thankfully, I have made a lot of new Texas friends asking for a push start with great frequency. If it hadn't been for places other than Texas, we probably would not have had electric starters. Thanks ya'll, there is lot of good in everybody from every state and country. _________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 09:09:25 2000 From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com To: "Ofarrell, Fergus" Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 08:06:56 -0700 Subject: Re: Subject: Another one of Daniels crazy ideas.... Fergus - You need to find a polite way to ask your big friend NOT to use the windshield as an aid to entering and exiting your car! It is one of the things I remember reading in the catalog supplement from Rallye Roadster not long after I got my '70 2000 - using the windshield as an aid to entering and exiting the car is a big no-no, more so on the low windshield cars than on ours (because of the way the windshield frame is attached) I think, but still not a good thing. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA "Ofarrell, Fergus" wrote: > [snip] (one of my buddies is 6' tall and 300+ lbs, and he helps > scoot himself into the passenger seat by grabbing on to the top of my > windshield, and I think he may be starting to flex the windshield, or I > might just be freaking out)[snip] > > Fergus O'Farrell > 69 2000 (w/ no joints or balconies, not YET) From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 09:13:59 2000 From: Eric Frisbee To: "Ofarrell, Fergus" Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 09:12:18 -0600 Subject: Re: Friendly Texans help me Enjoy the Ride I *really* hate to tell you this, but... I did own my toy while in High School! 16 and having a cool car like a roadster is unbelievable fun! 14 years later, it's still cool, but don't use it for the same reasons now.. ;) Eric WyCROC "David A. Fox" wrote: > > Nice story. I too wish I'd have owned my toy while in high school. Better > late than never though. > > BS&CW, > DAFox > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "Mark Gill" > Reply-To: "Mark Gill" > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: Friendly Texans help me Enjoy the Ride > Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 02:09:55 GMT > > Howdie List, > Texans are really friendly people! If all of you could be Texans, you would > know what I mean. > > You may meet a few Texans in life. But remember your social graces and > never ask if someone's from Texas. One Famous Rule of Etiquette is "Never > ask a person if he is from Texas. If they are from Texas, they will be sure > to mention it in every conversation. And if they are not from Texas, you do > not want to embarrass them". > > My recently purchased California Roadster has worked hard to become a Texan > and really enjoys motoring to Dallas on an almost daily basis. Have kind of > gotten use to the friendly honks, waves, and thumbs up (much different from > the finger as in some other states :') that the Roadster receives on a daily > basis. I have been amazed at the wide variety of folks, who have made a > point of commenting while in rush hour traffic, gas stations, restaurants, > etc. The Roadster has gotten favorable compliments from Cadillac to Lexus > drivers to teenagers in pickups. Often people will work their way across > several lanes of congested rush hour traffic to ask about and compliment the > classic Roadster good looks. > > A few weeks back, early one morning leaving for work, it was still pitch > dark. The night air was cooler than normal, so I had put on my light jacket > to keep off the pre-dawn chill. The slow rumble of the idling Roadster, > brought a pleasing musical note to the silent motionless morning air as I > climbed aboard for the 40 plus mile commute. Backing the topless Roadster > out of the drive, noticed that the moon was almost full. My mind wandered > back to my much younger high school dating years. Oh, to be a youngster in > school again, and have a cool Roadster convertible rather than your parents > old Army green Chevy. Boy, would the girls have dug me in a convertible. > Another glance at the driver through the mirror smoked that pipe dream. > > As the Roadster wound through the gears and the neighborhood, we came upon a > loading school bus coming down the opposite side of the street. The yellow > and red lights awoke the darkness with commanding flashes. The Roadster > came to a law respecting stop and I gave the accelerator a couple of kicks > to soothe the rumbling two litre's idle . > > A young boy probably around 12 or 13 wandered out of the house. Rubbing his > eyes he slowly stumbled to the patient school bus. Then off to spend a > boring day with some ancient, uninspired teachers (that thought brought the > back to school dream back to rude reality). > > Ending the daydream, found me glancing toward the clear, starlit sky. It > was then I noticed that several of the buses windows were coming down. I > could just imagine a bunch of teenage boys, trying to get the girls to > complain about being too cold. Of course, the boys don't mind because > they're tough. > > Then all at once, four or five small hands emerged through the open windows, > and the Datsun Roadster receives a group teenager "thumbs up." The buses > flashers flick off, and I wave a friendly thanks to my fellow though much, > much younger Datsun Roadster admirers. Of course, the Roadster can't wave. > So it says "Howdie" and "Thanks ya'll" by leaving respectable strips of > rubber in two gears. > > The Datsun Roadster may have been born around the same time as these young > teenagers' geezer parents, but Texans young and old recognize and appreciate > the Datsun Roadster cache and ageless styling. > > Enjoy the ride everytime you can and share your Friendly Texas Smile with > the top down! > > Mark Gill > Denton, TX > > SRL311 14359 > 1970 > > The Roadster's starter works great at times and not at all at other times. > My practice recently is to look for hills to park on, which tends to be a > real challenge in North Texas. Thankfully, I have made a lot of new Texas > friends asking for a push start with great frequency. If it hadn't been for > places other than Texas, we probably would not have had electric starters. > Thanks ya'll, there is lot of good in everybody from every state and > country. > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 09:53:53 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: dafox1@hotmail.com, willie2570@hotmail.com, Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 11:53:25 EDT Subject: Re: Friendly Texans help me Enjoy the Ride All, I had my Roadster as a Senior in highschool and halfway through college (before I got stupid and sold it - Doh!!) The story is right, it was AWESOME!! The idea that girls dug it was off base though. I could not get a date in a brothel with a $100 bill taped to my forehead, and the car was no assistance in that field. (Ok, it wasn't all that bad, but when hormones are raging, it FELT that way!) Sid >From: "David A. Fox" >Reply-To: "David A. Fox" >To: willie2570@hotmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Re: Friendly Texans help me Enjoy the Ride >Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 08:45:34 EDT > >Nice story. I too wish I'd have owned my toy while in high school. Better >late than never though. > >BS&CW, >DAFox > > >----Original Message Follows---- >From: "Mark Gill" >Reply-To: "Mark Gill" >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Friendly Texans help me Enjoy the Ride >Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 02:09:55 GMT > >Howdie List, >Texans are really friendly people! If all of you could be Texans, you >would >know what I mean. > >You may meet a few Texans in life. But remember your social graces and >never ask if someone's from Texas. One Famous Rule of Etiquette is "Never >ask a person if he is from Texas. If they are from Texas, they will be >sure >to mention it in every conversation. And if they are not from Texas, you >do >not want to embarrass them". > >My recently purchased California Roadster has worked hard to become a Texan >and really enjoys motoring to Dallas on an almost daily basis. Have kind >of >gotten use to the friendly honks, waves, and thumbs up (much different from >the finger as in some other states :') that the Roadster receives on a >daily >basis. I have been amazed at the wide variety of folks, who have made a >point of commenting while in rush hour traffic, gas stations, restaurants, >etc. The Roadster has gotten favorable compliments from Cadillac to Lexus >drivers to teenagers in pickups. Often people will work their way across >several lanes of congested rush hour traffic to ask about and compliment >the >classic Roadster good looks. > >A few weeks back, early one morning leaving for work, it was still pitch >dark. The night air was cooler than normal, so I had put on my light >jacket >to keep off the pre-dawn chill. The slow rumble of the idling Roadster, >brought a pleasing musical note to the silent motionless morning air as I >climbed aboard for the 40 plus mile commute. Backing the topless Roadster >out of the drive, noticed that the moon was almost full. My mind wandered >back to my much younger high school dating years. Oh, to be a youngster in >school again, and have a cool Roadster convertible rather than your parents >old Army green Chevy. Boy, would the girls have dug me in a convertible. >Another glance at the driver through the mirror smoked that pipe dream. > >As the Roadster wound through the gears and the neighborhood, we came upon >a >loading school bus coming down the opposite side of the street. The yellow >and red lights awoke the darkness with commanding flashes. The Roadster >came to a law respecting stop and I gave the accelerator a couple of kicks >to soothe the rumbling two litre's idle . > >A young boy probably around 12 or 13 wandered out of the house. Rubbing >his >eyes he slowly stumbled to the patient school bus. Then off to spend a >boring day with some ancient, uninspired teachers (that thought brought the >back to school dream back to rude reality). > >Ending the daydream, found me glancing toward the clear, starlit sky. It >was then I noticed that several of the buses windows were coming down. I >could just imagine a bunch of teenage boys, trying to get the girls to >complain about being too cold. Of course, the boys don't mind because >they're tough. > >Then all at once, four or five small hands emerged through the open >windows, >and the Datsun Roadster receives a group teenager "thumbs up." The buses >flashers flick off, and I wave a friendly thanks to my fellow though much, >much younger Datsun Roadster admirers. Of course, the Roadster can't wave. >So it says "Howdie" and "Thanks ya'll" by leaving respectable strips of >rubber in two gears. > >The Datsun Roadster may have been born around the same time as these young >teenagers' geezer parents, but Texans young and old recognize and >appreciate >the Datsun Roadster cache and ageless styling. > >Enjoy the ride everytime you can and share your Friendly Texas Smile with >the top down! > >Mark Gill >Denton, TX > >SRL311 14359 >1970 > >The Roadster's starter works great at times and not at all at other times. >My practice recently is to look for hills to park on, which tends to be a >real challenge in North Texas. Thankfully, I have made a lot of new Texas >friends asking for a push start with great frequency. If it hadn't been >for >places other than Texas, we probably would not have had electric starters. >Thanks ya'll, there is lot of good in everybody from every state and >country. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 09:57:33 2000 From: Mor39@aol.com To: Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 11:56:25 EDT Subject: Roadster for sale 1969 1600 Silver Roadster for sale, runs great, great shape, great price. If you want more infor. mor39@aol.com. Tim From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 10:13:20 2000 From: "Kyle Hagemann" To: "240" <240z-club@peak.org>, "311" Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 09:10:58 -0700 Subject: Well, I finally did it.... No, not that kind of "it", silly-O! I finally bought a Boattail Riviera..... check it out at http://www.sonic.net/~kyle/riv.html Cya- ____ Kyle Hagemann, Born-Again Grease Monkey From Beyond _.;(____\____ 72 240Z, L28/E88/SU, 5sp, all poly - Z Beast | _ | | _'@`, 71 PL521, LZ22, SUs, 2" exh, 4spd - The Hulk `-(#)------(#)-< 69 2000, For Sale $4100; looks and runs good ------------------- 84 Maxima, Tokicos/ST springs, 238K - Mr Max http://www.sonic.net/~kyle http://www.sonic.net/~kyle/cars.html "I don't know Ka-rate, but I know Ka-razy." -James Brown From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 10:30:08 2000 From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com To: sidney raper Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 09:29:23 -0700 Subject: Re: Friendly Texans help me Enjoy the Ride Gee, Sid - did you ever think that it might not have been the car? ;^ ) In the 14 years I've had my Roadster, the first words out of every woman/girl who has ever laid eyes on it have been "What a cute car!" (must have been the Sora blue paint job). I learned early on not to protest... "Cute, waddya mean cute? This baby has 120 HP, dual carbs, overhead cam and a 5-speed tranny and eats MGs for lunch!", because at that point their eyes would glaze over and they would lose interest (in the car AND me!). Gary McCormick San Jose, CA sidney raper wrote: > All, > > I had my Roadster as a Senior in highschool and halfway through college > (before I got stupid and sold it - Doh!!) The story is right, it was > AWESOME!! The idea that girls dug it was off base though. I could not get > a date in a brothel with a $100 bill taped to my forehead, and the car was > no assistance in that field. (Ok, it wasn't all that bad, but when hormones > are raging, it FELT that way!) > > Sid > > >From: "David A. Fox" > >Reply-To: "David A. Fox" > >To: willie2570@hotmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > >Subject: Re: Friendly Texans help me Enjoy the Ride > >Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 08:45:34 EDT > > > >Nice story. I too wish I'd have owned my toy while in high school. Better > >late than never though. > > > >BS&CW, > >DAFox > > > > > >----Original Message Follows---- > >From: "Mark Gill" > >Reply-To: "Mark Gill" > >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > >Subject: Friendly Texans help me Enjoy the Ride > >Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 02:09:55 GMT > > > >Howdie List, > >Texans are really friendly people! If all of you could be Texans, you > >would > >know what I mean. > > > >You may meet a few Texans in life. But remember your social graces and > >never ask if someone's from Texas. One Famous Rule of Etiquette is "Never > >ask a person if he is from Texas. If they are from Texas, they will be > >sure > >to mention it in every conversation. And if they are not from Texas, you > >do > >not want to embarrass them". > > > >My recently purchased California Roadster has worked hard to become a Texan > >and really enjoys motoring to Dallas on an almost daily basis. Have kind > >of > >gotten use to the friendly honks, waves, and thumbs up (much different from > >the finger as in some other states :') that the Roadster receives on a > >daily > >basis. I have been amazed at the wide variety of folks, who have made a > >point of commenting while in rush hour traffic, gas stations, restaurants, > >etc. The Roadster has gotten favorable compliments from Cadillac to Lexus > >drivers to teenagers in pickups. Often people will work their way across > >several lanes of congested rush hour traffic to ask about and compliment > >the > >classic Roadster good looks. > > > >A few weeks back, early one morning leaving for work, it was still pitch > >dark. The night air was cooler than normal, so I had put on my light > >jacket > >to keep off the pre-dawn chill. The slow rumble of the idling Roadster, > >brought a pleasing musical note to the silent motionless morning air as I > >climbed aboard for the 40 plus mile commute. Backing the topless Roadster > >out of the drive, noticed that the moon was almost full. My mind wandered > >back to my much younger high school dating years. Oh, to be a youngster in > >school again, and have a cool Roadster convertible rather than your parents > >old Army green Chevy. Boy, would the girls have dug me in a convertible. > >Another glance at the driver through the mirror smoked that pipe dream. > > > >As the Roadster wound through the gears and the neighborhood, we came upon > >a > >loading school bus coming down the opposite side of the street. The yellow > >and red lights awoke the darkness with commanding flashes. The Roadster > >came to a law respecting stop and I gave the accelerator a couple of kicks > >to soothe the rumbling two litre's idle . > > > >A young boy probably around 12 or 13 wandered out of the house. Rubbing > >his > >eyes he slowly stumbled to the patient school bus. Then off to spend a > >boring day with some ancient, uninspired teachers (that thought brought the > >back to school dream back to rude reality). > > > >Ending the daydream, found me glancing toward the clear, starlit sky. It > >was then I noticed that several of the buses windows were coming down. I > >could just imagine a bunch of teenage boys, trying to get the girls to > >complain about being too cold. Of course, the boys don't mind because > >they're tough. > > > >Then all at once, four or five small hands emerged through the open > >windows, > >and the Datsun Roadster receives a group teenager "thumbs up." The buses > >flashers flick off, and I wave a friendly thanks to my fellow though much, > >much younger Datsun Roadster admirers. Of course, the Roadster can't wave. > >So it says "Howdie" and "Thanks ya'll" by leaving respectable strips of > >rubber in two gears. > > > >The Datsun Roadster may have been born around the same time as these young > >teenagers' geezer parents, but Texans young and old recognize and > >appreciate > >the Datsun Roadster cache and ageless styling. > > > >Enjoy the ride everytime you can and share your Friendly Texas Smile with > >the top down! > > > >Mark Gill > >Denton, TX > > > >SRL311 14359 > >1970 > > > >The Roadster's starter works great at times and not at all at other times. > >My practice recently is to look for hills to park on, which tends to be a > >real challenge in North Texas. Thankfully, I have made a lot of new Texas > >friends asking for a push start with great frequency. If it hadn't been > >for > >places other than Texas, we probably would not have had electric starters. > >Thanks ya'll, there is lot of good in everybody from every state and > >country. > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 10:30:08 2000 From: Don Miller To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 09:29:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: NISMO springs rates? Okay race fans, The Turbo Roadster is in need of some stiffer front springs. I currently run the NISMO race springs. Does any one have the true specs of them? Diameter inside, Diameter outside, wire thickness, 1" compression rate, overall uncompressed hieght? Also, has anyone made stiffer or bought stiffer springs? What rate did you use? The car is getting faster now but still as my racing team name says: Must Go Faster Racing! Finally, finished second in overall time at the last autocross to a formula car hat weighs 1000 lbs and has wings. Had him beat until his very last run! Don Miller 69 Turbo V-6 Roadster Meridian, ID __________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 10:32:10 2000 From: Steve Allen To: datsun-roadsters-digest@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 09:39:05 -0700 Subject: Heater Switch To all, I have been busy working on my recently acquired '66. It must have been sitting for a few years as there was much to fix. The list of parts repaired or replaced is long so I will not get into that. I can say I do not mind a challenge though and she is ready to roll once I bleed the new braking system. She is not pretty but that too will be fixed in time. I have picked up a few missing odds and ends from vendors, local auto parts stores and list members. This list is a great resource so with that in mind. I need a heater switch for my '66. Everything electrical works except for my heater fan. I traced the wiring and double checked the circuit and my switch gave up the ghost some time along the way. Any one have one of those just lying around collecting dust? Thanks. Steve 67.5 2 liter stroked 66 1600 RP, CA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 10:48:37 2000 From: noji To: Kyle Hagemann Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 10:05:07 -0700 Subject: Re: Well, I finally did it.... Kyle, What a car. I had a friend when I was in high school in So. Cal. named "Eric the Blood". He was a big African American from Detroit and had a Pink Boat tail. He was about 6'2" and 250 lbs of muscle. The car was pink but few people made rude remarks to him. The car was very high on style. Dana Kyle Hagemann wrote: > > No, not that kind of "it", silly-O! > > I finally bought a Boattail Riviera..... > > check it out at http://www.sonic.net/~kyle/riv.html > > Cya- > ____ Kyle Hagemann, Born-Again Grease Monkey From Beyond > _.;(____\____ 72 240Z, L28/E88/SU, 5sp, all poly - Z Beast > | _ | | _'@`, 71 PL521, LZ22, SUs, 2" exh, 4spd - The Hulk > `-(#)------(#)-< 69 2000, For Sale $4100; looks and runs good > ------------------- 84 Maxima, Tokicos/ST springs, 238K - Mr Max > http://www.sonic.net/~kyle http://www.sonic.net/~kyle/cars.html > > "I don't know Ka-rate, but I know Ka-razy." -James Brown -- Dana Nojima, Ph.D. Department of Urology VA Medical Center - 112F 4150 Clement Street San Francisco, CA 94121 phone: (415) 221-4810 x 2031 fax: (415) 750-6639 noji-1@pacbell.net From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 10:53:07 2000 From: noji To: Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 10:09:23 -0700 Subject: Re: Mazda MX5 (Miata, I think) Roadster Folks, I thought there was a difference between the current measurement of HP now and when our cars were made (wheels vrs engine). So wouldn't a current 155 HP have a lot more power (given similar weights) than an 1969 155 HP car? Dana PS If nothing else I would love to have a soft top that goes up as easily and seals as well as a Miata's. datsunmike wrote: > > The new 2001 Miata has 155 HP SAE. I doubt that most Roadsters, including > Solex models, would be able to keep up with it although off the line the > Roadster might be able to take it because of torque and cubic inches but the > six speed tranny does have a lower 1st gear so it may be close. With 116HP > my car tops out at about 115, with 155HP it's probably closer to 130 or so. > > In the handling department there is no comparision. the Miata is much > stiffer and well balanced than any Roadster I have ever driven and has > better steering. My Konied, sway barred, Miata will blow most Roadsters away > in the corners, except for Calspeed. > > I'm not talking about race cars here but street cars. > > 30+ years of technology has made the Miata a great car. Mine is a 91 and the > 2001 Miatas are supposed to be much stiffer and better handling. While I > love my Roadster, I also love my Miata. > > IMHO, > > Mike > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stephen McCartney > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 7:19 PM > Subject: Mazda MX5 (Miata, I think) > > > I just read that Mazda are bringing out a new model of MX5 (which most > > people here call a Miata, right?) that will bring it's power up to about > > 112kw, IIRC. > > > > So now it's on par with a Solex 2000? > > > > Has anyone here got experiences in taking on these things? I'd assume the > > Mazda would handle better, but maybe isn't as quick? I'd never thought > that > > I could beat one, but on paper, it's looking possible... > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > > -- Dana Nojima, Ph.D. Department of Urology VA Medical Center - 112F 4150 Clement Street San Francisco, CA 94121 phone: (415) 221-4810 x 2031 fax: (415) 750-6639 noji-1@pacbell.net From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 12:12:54 2000 From: HIGHKIX4@aol.com To: noji@snowman.med.umn.edu, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 14:11:26 EDT Subject: Reply concerning weight and power (was Miata) Well, yes and no. Back then our cars were SAE Gross, which was the engine on a stand with open exhaust and no parisitic loads (power steering, air pump, alternator, air cleaner, etc etc) after 1970 (I think) cars were measured to SAE Net standards which is the engine as it sits in the car with everything hooked up. The no part of this yes and no equation is that our roadsters dont have much parisitic loss, (except for the stock exhaust, which is pretty restrictive IMHO)....fairly free flowing air cleaners, and nothing except the alternator sucking power off the engine. So, if you have a 150hp SOLEX, or 135SU 2L, or a 96HP 1600, you are probably, in my guestimate, talking about a 10 or 15% loss at the most. Remember that our roadsters weigh about 2000lbs. Its just a law of nature that light weight equals speed.... no door beams, no big bumpers, no AC, no cat converter, etc etc etc. Even without CAD/CAM design, our "slide rule design" roadsters got a big advantage here.....the best part is that every horspower we add can be felt due to overall low weight..... Just my 2cents Still haveing good weather and fun in South East Virginia, Jim Chesapeake Va From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 12:44:08 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 14:43:28 EDT Subject: Re: Friendly Texans help me Enjoy the Ride I guess that I should mention that my friend nicknamed my Roadster "The Beast" because it looked kind of rough cosmetically and it ROARED! The engine was a bored, iron head 1600 race motor with a header and usually no muffler. The body was mostly faded paint and a primered front fender. The chrome was painted black. It was rough, but it NEVER left me on the side of the road. I truly regret letting her go. (Oh yeah, she may have been named Beast, but she was a lady!) Sid >From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com >To: sidney raper >CC: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Re: Friendly Texans help me Enjoy the Ride >Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 09:29:23 -0700 > >Gee, Sid - did you ever think that it might not have been the car? ;^ ) > >In the 14 years I've had my Roadster, the first words out of every >woman/girl who has ever >laid eyes on it have been "What a cute car!" (must have been the Sora blue >paint job). I >learned early on not to protest... "Cute, waddya mean cute? This baby has >120 HP, dual >carbs, overhead cam and a 5-speed tranny and eats MGs for lunch!", because >at that point >their eyes would glaze over and they would lose interest (in the car AND >me!). > >Gary McCormick >San Jose, CA > >sidney raper wrote: > > > All, > > > > I had my Roadster as a Senior in highschool and halfway through college > > (before I got stupid and sold it - Doh!!) The story is right, it was > > AWESOME!! The idea that girls dug it was off base though. I could not >get > > a date in a brothel with a $100 bill taped to my forehead, and the car >was > > no assistance in that field. (Ok, it wasn't all that bad, but when >hormones > > are raging, it FELT that way!) > > > > Sid > > > > >From: "David A. Fox" > > >Reply-To: "David A. Fox" > > >To: willie2570@hotmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > >Subject: Re: Friendly Texans help me Enjoy the Ride > > >Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 08:45:34 EDT > > > > > >Nice story. I too wish I'd have owned my toy while in high school. >Better > > >late than never though. > > > > > >BS&CW, > > >DAFox > > > > > > > > >----Original Message Follows---- > > >From: "Mark Gill" > > >Reply-To: "Mark Gill" > > >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > >Subject: Friendly Texans help me Enjoy the Ride > > >Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 02:09:55 GMT > > > > > >Howdie List, > > >Texans are really friendly people! If all of you could be Texans, you > > >would > > >know what I mean. > > > > > >You may meet a few Texans in life. But remember your social graces and > > >never ask if someone's from Texas. One Famous Rule of Etiquette is >"Never > > >ask a person if he is from Texas. If they are from Texas, they will be > > >sure > > >to mention it in every conversation. And if they are not from Texas, >you > > >do > > >not want to embarrass them". > > > > > >My recently purchased California Roadster has worked hard to become a >Texan > > >and really enjoys motoring to Dallas on an almost daily basis. Have >kind > > >of > > >gotten use to the friendly honks, waves, and thumbs up (much different >from > > >the finger as in some other states :') that the Roadster receives on a > > >daily > > >basis. I have been amazed at the wide variety of folks, who have made >a > > >point of commenting while in rush hour traffic, gas stations, >restaurants, > > >etc. The Roadster has gotten favorable compliments from Cadillac to >Lexus > > >drivers to teenagers in pickups. Often people will work their way >across > > >several lanes of congested rush hour traffic to ask about and >compliment > > >the > > >classic Roadster good looks. > > > > > >A few weeks back, early one morning leaving for work, it was still >pitch > > >dark. The night air was cooler than normal, so I had put on my light > > >jacket > > >to keep off the pre-dawn chill. The slow rumble of the idling >Roadster, > > >brought a pleasing musical note to the silent motionless morning air as >I > > >climbed aboard for the 40 plus mile commute. Backing the topless >Roadster > > >out of the drive, noticed that the moon was almost full. My mind >wandered > > >back to my much younger high school dating years. Oh, to be a >youngster in > > >school again, and have a cool Roadster convertible rather than your >parents > > >old Army green Chevy. Boy, would the girls have dug me in a >convertible. > > >Another glance at the driver through the mirror smoked that pipe dream. > > > > > >As the Roadster wound through the gears and the neighborhood, we came >upon > > >a > > >loading school bus coming down the opposite side of the street. The >yellow > > >and red lights awoke the darkness with commanding flashes. The >Roadster > > >came to a law respecting stop and I gave the accelerator a couple of >kicks > > >to soothe the rumbling two litre's idle . > > > > > >A young boy probably around 12 or 13 wandered out of the house. >Rubbing > > >his > > >eyes he slowly stumbled to the patient school bus. Then off to spend a > > >boring day with some ancient, uninspired teachers (that thought brought >the > > >back to school dream back to rude reality). > > > > > >Ending the daydream, found me glancing toward the clear, starlit sky. >It > > >was then I noticed that several of the buses windows were coming down. >I > > >could just imagine a bunch of teenage boys, trying to get the girls to > > >complain about being too cold. Of course, the boys don't mind because > > >they're tough. > > > > > >Then all at once, four or five small hands emerged through the open > > >windows, > > >and the Datsun Roadster receives a group teenager "thumbs up." The >buses > > >flashers flick off, and I wave a friendly thanks to my fellow though >much, > > >much younger Datsun Roadster admirers. Of course, the Roadster can't >wave. > > >So it says "Howdie" and "Thanks ya'll" by leaving respectable strips of > > >rubber in two gears. > > > > > >The Datsun Roadster may have been born around the same time as these >young > > >teenagers' geezer parents, but Texans young and old recognize and > > >appreciate > > >the Datsun Roadster cache and ageless styling. > > > > > >Enjoy the ride everytime you can and share your Friendly Texas Smile >with > > >the top down! > > > > > >Mark Gill > > >Denton, TX > > > > > >SRL311 14359 > > >1970 > > > > > >The Roadster's starter works great at times and not at all at other >times. > > >My practice recently is to look for hills to park on, which tends to be >a > > >real challenge in North Texas. Thankfully, I have made a lot of new >Texas > > >friends asking for a push start with great frequency. If it hadn't >been > > >for > > >places other than Texas, we probably would not have had electric >starters. > > >Thanks ya'll, there is lot of good in everybody from every state and > > >country. > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 13:25:43 2000 From: "Ofarrell, Fergus" To: "'roadster.netlist'" Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 12:24:16 -0700 Subject: red line oil stuff first try net searching for "red line oils" and I think it'll steer ya right. (it's kinda long but helpful) it really quotes MTL and MT90 as equivalent, 'cept one is like 70 weight and one is 90 weight viscosity. when I went to buy some, they only had 75-90, so I thought it was right and bought it. It specifically tells you not to use 75-90 in older trannies, as their is an aditive that does not do well with synchro material . (i'll put that in the diff, instead) Synthetic oils have more consistency across the temperature range, so better shifting when cold. Also, they do not break down so easily, so they last much longer. I've heard that some have had problems with it draining out, because the visc. is lower than the stock (140W), but if your seals are bad you're gonna loose it when it warms up anyway, I suspect. (unless you only have the leaks when it's cold, which is possible I guess) Fergus 69 2000 (still double-clutching cause I haven't had time to put the stuff in....) From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 13:34:18 2000 From: Robert.Long@CSDInc.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 13:35:47 -0600 Subject: Distributor help Hello List, I need some help getting my distributor back where it belongs, I think. I bought some new Beck Arnley ignition parts (Cap, Condensr, Rotor, and Points). Instead of installing everything with the distributor in place, I decided to pull the distributor out. When I pulled it out, the little gear on the bottom of the distributor shaft came out with it (is it supposed to or not?). I thought I was careful noting how I had pulled it out, but I don't think I got it back in correctly. I tightened the distributor down (so I thought), but it wouldn't start back up. When I rechecked the distributor, it was loose, so I'm thinking that I didn't have the gear and shaft installed correctly, now I'm wondering if it could be way off??? Can someone explain to how to ensure that I have the gear & distributor installed correctly. I seem to remember something about setting the engine to top-dead-center and then point the rotor towards #1. Is this correct? How do I know when the car is at top-dead-center? Thank you...Robert - 67.5 1600 - Abq From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 14:45:54 2000 From: Jason Simpson To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 13:51:38 -0700 Subject: Adjusting the clutch? My clutch doesn't engage until very near the top of the pedal stroke. Can I adjust it so the clutch engages at a more comfortable position? Is this a sign that my clutch is nearly in need of replacement? Thanks. -jrs 1970 1600 SPL311-29803 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 16:01:14 2000 From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, Jason Simpson Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 14:34:29 -0700 Subject: Re: Adjusting the clutch? Not really. A lot of folks have false alarms, thinking that free play in the pedal means the clutch needs replacing. Not always so. 1) Check the master clutch cylinder. Is the brake fluid clear and free of contaminants? If it's dirty, it's likely that there's damage in the master or slave or both. Remove the dirty fluid and replace it with clean fluid. Use an eye dropper, turkey baster, or one of those baby nose suction tools. Of course brake fluid is toxic so once used for this purpose keep the tool in your toolbox. 2) Bleed your master and slave cylinders to get all the trapped air out, and to bleed out all contaminants so you're left with clean brake fluid. If you have a lot of brown gunk coming out of the slave, then you should remove it and do an inspection. Most likely it will need to be replaced, as it may be rusted and pitted inside. 3) Check the spring that is attaches to the clutch pedal inside the foot-well. Make sure it is intact and strong, and not rusted and weak. 4) Now adjust the free play in the slave cylinder arm that goes to the throwout bearing yoke. You'll need a flat-blade screwdriver, and a couple open wrenches. Use the wrenches to loosen the locking nut, then use the screwdriver to adjust the arm until you have about 1/8 inch free play or less in the arm. Only after doing these procedures and having a good master/slave cylinder set with clear bled fluid and adjusted free play, should you then evaluate whether your clutch is bad. Depending on the condition of the clutch, it will feel good as new, or it will slip, or it will not disengage the trans from the engine. (Yeah-yeah, a bad trans could prevent disengaging but we're talking clutch pedal stroke here.) If the clutch still doesn't engage until the top of the pedal stroke, then it's possible your clutch needs work. Either/both pressure plate and disc, and throwout bearing, easiest just to replace all while the engine is out. Hope this helps, Fred - So.SF BADROC P.S. If you want a strong clutch then buy the 2000 clutch set. _______________________ Reply Separator _________________________ Subject: Adjusting the clutch? Author: Jason Simpson Date: 10/27/2000 1:51 PM My clutch doesn't engage until very near the top of the pedal stroke. Can I adjust it so the clutch engages at a more comfortable position? Is this a sign that my clutch is nearly in need of replacement? Thanks. -jrs 1970 1600 SPL311-29803 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 16:45:15 2000 From: "Kyle Hagemann" To: "311" Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 15:43:42 -0700 Subject: 66 v 69 antenna? Hi all- Is the antenna the same for 66 and 69? TIA ____ Kyle Hagemann, Born-Again Grease Monkey From Beyond _.;(____\____ 72 240Z, L28/E88/SU, 5sp, all poly - Z Beast | _ | | _'@`, 71 PL521, LZ22, SUs, 2" exh, 4spd - The Hulk `-(#)------(#)-< 69 2000, For Sale $4100; looks and runs good ------------------- 84 Maxima, Tokicos/ST springs, 238K - Mr Max http://www.sonic.net/~kyle http://www.sonic.net/~kyle/cars.html "I don't know Ka-rate, but I know Ka-razy." -James Brown From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 17:02:54 2000 From: Dan Neff To: list roadster Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 16:02:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: lower rad hose for 2000? Played Garage Queen for 6 days waiting for new lower rad hose to come in (thank you UPS). Got it today, and it's 3-4 INCHES shorter than the previous!?! NO WAY will that fit (I tried). Parts man assures me that's the right hose for a 2000. Both old and new have the nylon braid, approx the same bends.. So, how can that be? I THINK the radiator looks like any other I've seen on a 2L. I've had it out, didn't seem to be a custom fit... Only thing I can figure is possibly it's a radiator from a similar car? 510? It DOES run cooler than any other roadster I've seen, but I wrote it off as the gauge being off. Any thoughts? sigh. I didn't buy my roadster to be a garage queen, and the last 2 months are making going back to motorcycling look pretty good.. Thanks, dan '69 2000 Colorado Springs, CO www.wycroc.org __________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 17:19:31 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "noji" , Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 19:13:59 -0400 Subject: Re: Mazda MX5 (Miata, I think) Dana, That's exactly right and a point I was going to bring up. Those 150HP Solexes are SAE GROSS HP figures, not NET figures as used today. For us older guys remember when in 1972 all the HP figures dropped for all the muscle cars?? Chevy 350/300HP cars went to 350/210HP, the Z28 went from 350/370 to 350/270. That was because they went from gross to net HP ratings. The same happened to the Japanese cars. The 125HP 2L was probably closer to 100HP and the 1600 probably closer to 80HP or maybe 75HP. FWIW, Mike PS - The soft top action is great too! Takes me about 1.5 minutes to put it up and about 1 to take it down. ----- Original Message ----- From: noji To: Cc: Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 1:09 PM Subject: Re: Mazda MX5 (Miata, I think) > Roadster Folks, > > I thought there was a difference between the current measurement of HP > now and when our cars were made (wheels vrs engine). So wouldn't a > current 155 HP have a lot more power (given similar weights) than an > 1969 155 HP car? > > Dana > > PS If nothing else I would love to have a soft top that goes up as > easily and seals as well as a Miata's. > > > > datsunmike wrote: > > > > The new 2001 Miata has 155 HP SAE. I doubt that most Roadsters, including > > Solex models, would be able to keep up with it although off the line the > > Roadster might be able to take it because of torque and cubic inches but the > > six speed tranny does have a lower 1st gear so it may be close. With 116HP > > my car tops out at about 115, with 155HP it's probably closer to 130 or so. > > > > In the handling department there is no comparision. the Miata is much > > stiffer and well balanced than any Roadster I have ever driven and has > > better steering. My Konied, sway barred, Miata will blow most Roadsters away > > in the corners, except for Calspeed. > > > > I'm not talking about race cars here but street cars. > > > > 30+ years of technology has made the Miata a great car. Mine is a 91 and the > > 2001 Miatas are supposed to be much stiffer and better handling. While I > > love my Roadster, I also love my Miata. > > > > IMHO, > > > > Mike > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Stephen McCartney > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 7:19 PM > > Subject: Mazda MX5 (Miata, I think) > > > > > I just read that Mazda are bringing out a new model of MX5 (which most > > > people here call a Miata, right?) that will bring it's power up to about > > > 112kw, IIRC. > > > > > > So now it's on par with a Solex 2000? > > > > > > Has anyone here got experiences in taking on these things? I'd assume the > > > Mazda would handle better, but maybe isn't as quick? I'd never thought > > that > > > I could beat one, but on paper, it's looking possible... > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > -- > Dana Nojima, Ph.D. > Department of Urology > VA Medical Center - 112F > 4150 Clement Street > San Francisco, CA 94121 > > phone: (415) 221-4810 x 2031 > fax: (415) 750-6639 > noji-1@pacbell.net From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 17:27:12 2000 From: Hoon Kim To: datsun roadster mailist Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 16:26:35 -0700 Subject: dimensions for '67 gaugues? anyone know what the diameters are for all the '67 gauges? -- - Hoon Kim - x6184 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 17:30:43 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "J Friederich" , Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 19:25:19 -0400 Subject: Re: RedLine tranny oil? The MTL is a 75/80 oil and the MT90 is a 75/90 oil. I run the MT90 as it is closer to the specs called for by Datsun although I just disassembled a 4 speed that I was running w/MTL and saw no wear on the countershaft at all. BTW, it won't help with your synchro problem as it's shot just like mine was, hence the disassembly. It doesn't do miracles. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: J Friederich To: Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 12:23 AM Subject: RedLine tranny oil? > I see that there are 2 Red Line tranny oils - MTL and MT-90 (or something > like that?) What is the difference, and what might work best for a well > used Roadster tranny? Is it worth trying? I've got a bit of syncro trouble > downshifting to 2nd... > > -John F > '69 2000 Solex, Las Vegas > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 17:36:39 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: , , Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 19:30:51 -0400 Subject: Re: RedLine tranny oil? Bob, It flows much better when cold, has better lubricating properties, contains no sulphur and from what I saw in my tranny, left no deposits anywhere. I used it for 8 years and liked it a lot and now all my cars run it, even my Miata!!!! Tryt it you'll like it. And no stinkin', literally. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Cc: Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 9:25 AM Subject: RE: RedLine tranny oil? > Can you explain what is better about this MT-90 versus any 90 weight oil > from auto parts stores? Is it better for some reason? I have rebuilt my 4 > speed tranny but have yet to put the oil back in. ...would like to put in > what is best. > > Thanks, > > Bob Wilson '70 1600 (soon to be stroker) > > -----Original Message----- > From: dhbain@qwest.net [mailto:dhbain@qwest.net] > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 10:00 PM > To: J Friederich > Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: RedLine tranny oil? > > > Don't remember the difference but after telling the Red Line company guy > what I > was putting it in, he told me to use MT-90. It's been in a year now, works > fine! > > J Friederich wrote: > > > I see that there are 2 Red Line tranny oils - MTL and MT-90 (or something > > like that?) What is the difference, and what might work best for a well > > used Roadster tranny? Is it worth trying? I've got a bit of syncro > trouble > > downshifting to 2nd... From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 17:41:22 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: , , Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 19:35:15 -0400 Subject: Re: Another one of Daniels crazy ideas.... And those floors aren't all that strong either!!!!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 4:12 AM Subject: Re: Another one of Daniels crazy ideas.... > In a message dated 10/26/00 1:27:35 AM !!!First Boot!!!, > dneuman@quark.sfsu.edu writes: > > << Allright I got another crazy idea the other day. Here's my idea... A > roadster rumble seat. Wouldn't that be neat-o. You would have to make up new > hinges for the trunk so that it would open from the oppisite side it does > now. These would have to be pretty heavy duty and you would have to > reinforce the trunk lid and the wall of the trunk that.. >> > > > Wow... Daniel. You are radical. But I think you better reinforce the floor > to. Are you sure you want to put all of that weight on the trunk bottom. > You only have two metal straps holding the gastank up. And those straps are > held on by four corroding bolts. > > > Calspeed > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 17:55:32 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Eric Frisbee" Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 19:49:53 -0400 Subject: Re: Friendly Texans help me Enjoy the Ride Eric, You must have been double jointed in HS as were your GFs. A good friend in my youth, Fred, who I went to HS with had a Dad who owned a Datsun dealership. I belive he had a yellow 67.5 2L for his use while in HS and I remember sharing many good times with him in it although after all these years it is fuzzy. His Dad later sold me a used 67 1600 when I was ready to buy my first car. I really don't remember how much I paid but it was red. He later sold me a 510 and then the ultimate - a used 1971 240 for dirt cheap. I blew Fred's mind when I pulled up to our 15th HS reunion in a red Roadster!!!!! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric Frisbee Cc: David A. Fox ; ; Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 11:12 AM Subject: Re: Friendly Texans help me Enjoy the Ride > I *really* hate to tell you this, but... I did own my toy while in High > School! 16 and having a cool car like a roadster is unbelievable fun! > 14 years later, it's still cool, but don't use it for the same reasons > now.. ;) > > Eric > WyCROC > > "David A. Fox" wrote: > > > > Nice story. I too wish I'd have owned my toy while in high school. Better > > late than never though. > > > > BS&CW, > > DAFox > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > From: "Mark Gill" > > Reply-To: "Mark Gill" > > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > Subject: Friendly Texans help me Enjoy the Ride > > Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 02:09:55 GMT > > > > Howdie List, > > Texans are really friendly people! If all of you could be Texans, you would > > know what I mean. > > > > You may meet a few Texans in life. But remember your social graces and > > never ask if someone's from Texas. One Famous Rule of Etiquette is "Never > > ask a person if he is from Texas. If they are from Texas, they will be sure > > to mention it in every conversation. And if they are not from Texas, you do > > not want to embarrass them". > > > > My recently purchased California Roadster has worked hard to become a Texan > > and really enjoys motoring to Dallas on an almost daily basis. Have kind of > > gotten use to the friendly honks, waves, and thumbs up (much different from > > the finger as in some other states :') that the Roadster receives on a daily > > basis. I have been amazed at the wide variety of folks, who have made a > > point of commenting while in rush hour traffic, gas stations, restaurants, > > etc. The Roadster has gotten favorable compliments from Cadillac to Lexus > > drivers to teenagers in pickups. Often people will work their way across > > several lanes of congested rush hour traffic to ask about and compliment the > > classic Roadster good looks. > > > > A few weeks back, early one morning leaving for work, it was still pitch > > dark. The night air was cooler than normal, so I had put on my light jacket > > to keep off the pre-dawn chill. The slow rumble of the idling Roadster, > > brought a pleasing musical note to the silent motionless morning air as I > > climbed aboard for the 40 plus mile commute. Backing the topless Roadster > > out of the drive, noticed that the moon was almost full. My mind wandered > > back to my much younger high school dating years. Oh, to be a youngster in > > school again, and have a cool Roadster convertible rather than your parents > > old Army green Chevy. Boy, would the girls have dug me in a convertible. > > Another glance at the driver through the mirror smoked that pipe dream. > > > > As the Roadster wound through the gears and the neighborhood, we came upon a > > loading school bus coming down the opposite side of the street. The yellow > > and red lights awoke the darkness with commanding flashes. The Roadster > > came to a law respecting stop and I gave the accelerator a couple of kicks > > to soothe the rumbling two litre's idle . > > > > A young boy probably around 12 or 13 wandered out of the house. Rubbing his > > eyes he slowly stumbled to the patient school bus. Then off to spend a > > boring day with some ancient, uninspired teachers (that thought brought the > > back to school dream back to rude reality). > > > > Ending the daydream, found me glancing toward the clear, starlit sky. It > > was then I noticed that several of the buses windows were coming down. I > > could just imagine a bunch of teenage boys, trying to get the girls to > > complain about being too cold. Of course, the boys don't mind because > > they're tough. > > > > Then all at once, four or five small hands emerged through the open windows, > > and the Datsun Roadster receives a group teenager "thumbs up." The buses > > flashers flick off, and I wave a friendly thanks to my fellow though much, > > much younger Datsun Roadster admirers. Of course, the Roadster can't wave. > > So it says "Howdie" and "Thanks ya'll" by leaving respectable strips of > > rubber in two gears. > > > > The Datsun Roadster may have been born around the same time as these young > > teenagers' geezer parents, but Texans young and old recognize and appreciate > > the Datsun Roadster cache and ageless styling. > > > > Enjoy the ride everytime you can and share your Friendly Texas Smile with > > the top down! > > > > Mark Gill > > Denton, TX > > > > SRL311 14359 > > 1970 > > > > The Roadster's starter works great at times and not at all at other times. > > My practice recently is to look for hills to park on, which tends to be a > > real challenge in North Texas. Thankfully, I have made a lot of new Texas > > friends asking for a push start with great frequency. If it hadn't been for > > places other than Texas, we probably would not have had electric starters. > > Thanks ya'll, there is lot of good in everybody from every state and > > country. > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 18:01:37 2000 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "Kyle Hagemann" , Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 20:00:08 -0400 Subject: Re: 66 v 69 antenna? My book says yes. 27314-12900 for flat dash 27350-25500 for 66 and 67s 27350-25900 or 27350-25900 for 68 27350-A3201 for 69 & 70 I had no idea there were so many choices! Paul OROC -----Original Message----- From: Kyle Hagemann To: 311 Date: Friday, October 27, 2000 6:49 PM Subject: 66 v 69 antenna? >Hi all- > >Is the antenna the same for 66 and 69? > >TIA > ____ Kyle Hagemann, Born-Again Grease Monkey From Beyond > _.;(____\____ 72 240Z, L28/E88/SU, 5sp, all poly - Z Beast > | _ | | _'@`, 71 PL521, LZ22, SUs, 2" exh, 4spd - The Hulk > `-(#)------(#)-< 69 2000, For Sale $4100; looks and runs good >------------------- 84 Maxima, Tokicos/ST springs, 238K - Mr Max >http://www.sonic.net/~kyle http://www.sonic.net/~kyle/cars.html > > "I don't know Ka-rate, but I know Ka-razy." -James Brown > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 18:19:06 2000 From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us To: "noji" , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 17:00:19 -0700 Subject: Re[2]: Mazda MX5 (Miata, I think) Mike, Yes I've heard that they use net hp today. But wasn't the stock 2L listed as 135HP? (Not 125HP.) So you couldn't possibly mean that net HP is closer to 100HP. More likely 110-115? Also, I've heard Les Cannaday and Marc Sayer mentioning that shedding weight on the roadster can buy you more HP. Along with some other engine improvements. I think every 10 pounds shed can buy 1HP. So we don't have to get dejected thinking that we're stuck at the lower figures. I've done a few things to my SU 2000 so that it stands up very well to a Solex 2000. (Right, Michael? ;> ) So it's conceivable that you can squeeze out much higher HP on a stock roadster. Fred - So.SF BADROC ________________________ Reply Separator ___________________________ Subject: Re: Mazda MX5 (Miata, I think) Author: "datsunmike" Date: 10/27/2000 7:13 PM Dana, That's exactly right and a point I was going to bring up. Those 150HP Solexes are SAE GROSS HP figures, not NET figures as used today. For us older guys remember when in 1972 all the HP figures dropped for all the muscle cars?? Chevy 350/300HP cars went to 350/210HP, the Z28 went from 350/370 to 350/270. That was because they went from gross to net HP ratings. The same happened to the Japanese cars. The 125HP 2L was probably closer to 100HP and the 1600 probably closer to 80HP or maybe 75HP. FWIW, Mike PS - The soft top action is great too! Takes me about 1.5 minutes to put it up and about 1 to take it down. ----- Original Message ----- From: noji To: Cc: Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 1:09 PM Subject: Re: Mazda MX5 (Miata, I think) > Roadster Folks, > > I thought there was a difference between the current measurement of HP > now and when our cars were made (wheels vrs engine). So wouldn't a > current 155 HP have a lot more power (given similar weights) than an > 1969 155 HP car? > > Dana > > PS If nothing else I would love to have a soft top that goes up as > easily and seals as well as a Miata's. > > > > datsunmike wrote: > > > > The new 2001 Miata has 155 HP SAE. I doubt that most Roadsters, including > > Solex models, would be able to keep up with it although off the line the > > Roadster might be able to take it because of torque and cubic inches but the > > six speed tranny does have a lower 1st gear so it may be close. With 116HP > > my car tops out at about 115, with 155HP it's probably closer to 130 or so. > > > > In the handling department there is no comparision. the Miata is much > > stiffer and well balanced than any Roadster I have ever driven and has > > better steering. My Konied, sway barred, Miata will blow most Roadsters away > > in the corners, except for Calspeed. > > > > I'm not talking about race cars here but street cars. > > > > 30+ years of technology has made the Miata a great car. Mine is a 91 and the > > 2001 Miatas are supposed to be much stiffer and better handling. While I > > love my Roadster, I also love my Miata. > > > > IMHO, > > > > Mike > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Stephen McCartney > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 7:19 PM > > Subject: Mazda MX5 (Miata, I think) > > > > > I just read that Mazda are bringing out a new model of MX5 (which most > > > people here call a Miata, right?) that will bring it's power up to about > > > 112kw, IIRC. > > > > > > So now it's on par with a Solex 2000? > > > > > > Has anyone here got experiences in taking on these things? I'd assume the > > > Mazda would handle better, but maybe isn't as quick? I'd never thought > > that > > > I could beat one, but on paper, it's looking possible... > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > -- > Dana Nojima, Ph.D. > Department of Urology > VA Medical Center - 112F > 4150 Clement Street > San Francisco, CA 94121 > > phone: (415) 221-4810 x 2031 > fax: (415) 750-6639 > noji-1@pacbell.net From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 18:22:34 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: kwhcpa@addler.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 20:22:01 EDT Subject: Re: 66 v 69 antenna? Yes and no. They interchange, but the early is bright chrome while the late is satin finish. Sid >From: "Kyle Hagemann" >Reply-To: "Kyle Hagemann" >To: "311" >Subject: 66 v 69 antenna? >Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 15:43:42 -0700 > >Hi all- > >Is the antenna the same for 66 and 69? > >TIA > ____ Kyle Hagemann, Born-Again Grease Monkey From Beyond > _.;(____\____ 72 240Z, L28/E88/SU, 5sp, all poly - Z Beast > | _ | | _'@`, 71 PL521, LZ22, SUs, 2" exh, 4spd - The Hulk > `-(#)------(#)-< 69 2000, For Sale $4100; looks and runs good >------------------- 84 Maxima, Tokicos/ST springs, 238K - Mr Max >http://www.sonic.net/~kyle http://www.sonic.net/~kyle/cars.html > > "I don't know Ka-rate, but I know Ka-razy." -James Brown > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 18:32:13 2000 From: Roman Rist To: datsun roadsters Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 17:31:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sad News in Roadsterland Well, the 70 is not going to make it to Doheney. The faithful "Primer king" will be there instead. The 70 follows the 80/20% rule 80% of the motor is done... the 20% that makes it Run isn't. 80% of the interior is done..... 80% of the electrical system is done...... In my exuberance, while I was at it, I installed a header I had laying around... only one problem, the original exhaust system, that has been welded to death and is about the diameter of a drinking straw, still remains. Oh Well... see you in grey. Roman __________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 18:39:22 2000 From: Roman Rist To: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 17:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: horse power So it's conceivable that you can squeeze out > much > higher HP on a stock roadster. My almost stock 70 1600 with it's open header, is probably at about 250 horsepower.... It will take just about that many horses to pull it out of the driveway to doheney! __________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 18:49:04 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "sidney raper" Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 20:43:34 -0400 Subject: Re: Friendly Texans help me Enjoy the Ride No wonder why you had no dates -) Girls like soft cute things not beastly, hard and loud things! ----- Original Message ----- From: sidney raper To: Cc: Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 2:43 PM Subject: Re: Friendly Texans help me Enjoy the Ride > I guess that I should mention that my friend nicknamed my Roadster "The > Beast" because it looked kind of rough cosmetically and it ROARED! The > engine was a bored, iron head 1600 race motor with a header and usually no > muffler. The body was mostly faded paint and a primered front fender. The > chrome was painted black. It was rough, but it NEVER left me on the side of > the road. I truly regret letting her go. (Oh yeah, she may have been named > Beast, but she was a lady!) > > Sid > > > >From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com > >To: sidney raper > >CC: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > >Subject: Re: Friendly Texans help me Enjoy the Ride > >Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 09:29:23 -0700 > > > >Gee, Sid - did you ever think that it might not have been the car? ;^ ) > > > >In the 14 years I've had my Roadster, the first words out of every > >woman/girl who has ever > >laid eyes on it have been "What a cute car!" (must have been the Sora blue > >paint job). I > >learned early on not to protest... "Cute, waddya mean cute? This baby has > >120 HP, dual > >carbs, overhead cam and a 5-speed tranny and eats MGs for lunch!", because > >at that point > >their eyes would glaze over and they would lose interest (in the car AND > >me!). > > > >Gary McCormick > >San Jose, CA > > > >sidney raper wrote: > > > > > All, > > > > > > I had my Roadster as a Senior in highschool and halfway through college > > > (before I got stupid and sold it - Doh!!) The story is right, it was > > > AWESOME!! The idea that girls dug it was off base though. I could not > >get > > > a date in a brothel with a $100 bill taped to my forehead, and the car > >was > > > no assistance in that field. (Ok, it wasn't all that bad, but when > >hormones > > > are raging, it FELT that way!) > > > > > > Sid > > > > > > >From: "David A. Fox" > > > >Reply-To: "David A. Fox" > > > >To: willie2570@hotmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > > >Subject: Re: Friendly Texans help me Enjoy the Ride > > > >Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 08:45:34 EDT > > > > > > > >Nice story. I too wish I'd have owned my toy while in high school. > >Better > > > >late than never though. > > > > > > > >BS&CW, > > > >DAFox > > > > > > > > > > > >----Original Message Follows---- > > > >From: "Mark Gill" > > > >Reply-To: "Mark Gill" > > > >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > > >Subject: Friendly Texans help me Enjoy the Ride > > > >Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 02:09:55 GMT > > > > > > > >Howdie List, > > > >Texans are really friendly people! If all of you could be Texans, you > > > >would > > > >know what I mean. > > > > > > > >You may meet a few Texans in life. But remember your social graces and > > > >never ask if someone's from Texas. One Famous Rule of Etiquette is > >"Never > > > >ask a person if he is from Texas. If they are from Texas, they will be > > > >sure > > > >to mention it in every conversation. And if they are not from Texas, > >you > > > >do > > > >not want to embarrass them". > > > > > > > >My recently purchased California Roadster has worked hard to become a > >Texan > > > >and really enjoys motoring to Dallas on an almost daily basis. Have > >kind > > > >of > > > >gotten use to the friendly honks, waves, and thumbs up (much different > >from > > > >the finger as in some other states :') that the Roadster receives on a > > > >daily > > > >basis. I have been amazed at the wide variety of folks, who have made > >a > > > >point of commenting while in rush hour traffic, gas stations, > >restaurants, > > > >etc. The Roadster has gotten favorable compliments from Cadillac to > >Lexus > > > >drivers to teenagers in pickups. Often people will work their way > >across > > > >several lanes of congested rush hour traffic to ask about and > >compliment > > > >the > > > >classic Roadster good looks. > > > > > > > >A few weeks back, early one morning leaving for work, it was still > >pitch > > > >dark. The night air was cooler than normal, so I had put on my light > > > >jacket > > > >to keep off the pre-dawn chill. The slow rumble of the idling > >Roadster, > > > >brought a pleasing musical note to the silent motionless morning air as > >I > > > >climbed aboard for the 40 plus mile commute. Backing the topless > >Roadster > > > >out of the drive, noticed that the moon was almost full. My mind > >wandered > > > >back to my much younger high school dating years. Oh, to be a > >youngster in > > > >school again, and have a cool Roadster convertible rather than your > >parents > > > >old Army green Chevy. Boy, would the girls have dug me in a > >convertible. > > > >Another glance at the driver through the mirror smoked that pipe dream. > > > > > > > >As the Roadster wound through the gears and the neighborhood, we came > >upon > > > >a > > > >loading school bus coming down the opposite side of the street. The > >yellow > > > >and red lights awoke the darkness with commanding flashes. The > >Roadster > > > >came to a law respecting stop and I gave the accelerator a couple of > >kicks > > > >to soothe the rumbling two litre's idle . > > > > > > > >A young boy probably around 12 or 13 wandered out of the house. > >Rubbing > > > >his > > > >eyes he slowly stumbled to the patient school bus. Then off to spend a > > > >boring day with some ancient, uninspired teachers (that thought brought > >the > > > >back to school dream back to rude reality). > > > > > > > >Ending the daydream, found me glancing toward the clear, starlit sky. > >It > > > >was then I noticed that several of the buses windows were coming down. > >I > > > >could just imagine a bunch of teenage boys, trying to get the girls to > > > >complain about being too cold. Of course, the boys don't mind because > > > >they're tough. > > > > > > > >Then all at once, four or five small hands emerged through the open > > > >windows, > > > >and the Datsun Roadster receives a group teenager "thumbs up." The > >buses > > > >flashers flick off, and I wave a friendly thanks to my fellow though > >much, > > > >much younger Datsun Roadster admirers. Of course, the Roadster can't > >wave. > > > >So it says "Howdie" and "Thanks ya'll" by leaving respectable strips of > > > >rubber in two gears. > > > > > > > >The Datsun Roadster may have been born around the same time as these > >young > > > >teenagers' geezer parents, but Texans young and old recognize and > > > >appreciate > > > >the Datsun Roadster cache and ageless styling. > > > > > > > >Enjoy the ride everytime you can and share your Friendly Texas Smile > >with > > > >the top down! > > > > > > > >Mark Gill > > > >Denton, TX > > > > > > > >SRL311 14359 > > > >1970 > > > > > > > >The Roadster's starter works great at times and not at all at other > >times. > > > >My practice recently is to look for hills to park on, which tends to be > >a > > > >real challenge in North Texas. Thankfully, I have made a lot of new > >Texas > > > >friends asking for a push start with great frequency. If it hadn't > >been > > > >for > > > >places other than Texas, we probably would not have had electric > >starters. > > > >Thanks ya'll, there is lot of good in everybody from every state and > > > >country. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 18:52:36 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 20:46:52 -0400 Subject: Re: Adjusting the clutch? And remember to disconnect the spring on the clutch slave cylinder to check for free play as Fred suggested. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Jason Simpson Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 5:34 PM Subject: Re: Adjusting the clutch? > Not really. A lot of folks have false alarms, thinking that free play in > the pedal means the clutch needs replacing. Not always so. > > 1) Check the master clutch cylinder. Is the brake fluid clear and free of > contaminants? If it's dirty, it's likely that there's damage in the master > or slave or both. Remove the dirty fluid and replace it with clean fluid. > Use an eye dropper, turkey baster, or one of those baby nose suction tools. > Of course brake fluid is toxic so once used for this purpose keep the tool > in your toolbox. > > 2) Bleed your master and slave cylinders to get all the trapped air out, and to > bleed out all contaminants so you're left with clean brake fluid. If you have a > lot of brown gunk coming out of the slave, then you should remove it and do an > inspection. Most likely it will need to be replaced, as it may be rusted and > pitted inside. > > 3) Check the spring that is attaches to the clutch pedal inside the foot-well. > Make sure it is intact and strong, and not rusted and weak. > > 4) Now adjust the free play in the slave cylinder arm that goes to the throwout > bearing yoke. You'll need a flat-blade screwdriver, and a couple open wrenches. > Use the wrenches to loosen the locking nut, then use the screwdriver to adjust > the arm until you have about 1/8 inch free play or less in the arm. > > Only after doing these procedures and having a good master/slave cylinder set > with clear bled fluid and adjusted free play, should you then evaluate whether > your clutch is bad. > > Depending on the condition of the clutch, it will feel good as new, or it will > slip, or it will not disengage the trans from the engine. (Yeah-yeah, a bad > trans could prevent disengaging but we're talking clutch pedal stroke here.) If > the clutch still doesn't engage until the top of the pedal stroke, then it's > possible your clutch needs work. Either/both pressure plate and disc, and > throwout bearing, easiest just to replace all while the engine is out. > > Hope this helps, Fred - So.SF > BADROC > P.S. If you want a strong clutch then buy the 2000 clutch set. > > _______________________ Reply Separator _________________________ > Subject: Adjusting the clutch? > Author: Jason Simpson > Date: 10/27/2000 1:51 PM > > > > My clutch doesn't engage until very near the top of the pedal stroke. > Can I adjust it so the clutch engages at a more comfortable position? Is > this a sign that my clutch is nearly in need of replacement? > > Thanks. > -jrs > > 1970 1600 > SPL311-29803 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 18:55:36 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: , "noji" , Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 20:50:01 -0400 Subject: Re: Re[2]: Mazda MX5 (Miata, I think) I stand correceted it is 135HP on the 2L. Sorry if I hurt anybody's feelings -( Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: To: noji ; ; datsunmike Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 8:00 PM Subject: Re[2]: Mazda MX5 (Miata, I think) > Mike, > > Yes I've heard that they use net hp today. But wasn't the stock 2L listed > as 135HP? (Not 125HP.) So you couldn't possibly mean that net HP is closer > to 100HP. More likely 110-115? > > Also, I've heard Les Cannaday and Marc Sayer mentioning that shedding > weight on the roadster can buy you more HP. Along with some other engine > improvements. I think every 10 pounds shed can buy 1HP. So we don't have to > get dejected thinking that we're stuck at the lower figures. I've done a > few things to my SU 2000 so that it stands up very well to a Solex 2000. > (Right, Michael? ;> ) So it's conceivable that you can squeeze out much > higher HP on a stock roadster. > > Fred - So.SF > BADROC > > ________________________ Reply Separator ___________________________ > Subject: Re: Mazda MX5 (Miata, I think) > Author: "datsunmike" > Date: 10/27/2000 7:13 PM > > > Dana, > > That's exactly right and a point I was going to bring up. Those 150HP > Solexes are SAE GROSS HP figures, not NET figures as used today. > > For us older guys remember when in 1972 all the HP figures dropped for all > the muscle cars?? Chevy 350/300HP cars went to 350/210HP, the Z28 went from > 350/370 to 350/270. That was because they went from gross to net HP ratings. > The same happened to the Japanese cars. The 125HP 2L was probably closer to > 100HP and the 1600 probably closer to 80HP or maybe 75HP. > > FWIW, > Mike > > PS - The soft top action is great too! Takes me about 1.5 minutes to put it > up and about 1 to take it down. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: noji > To: > Cc: > Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 1:09 PM > Subject: Re: Mazda MX5 (Miata, I think) > > > > Roadster Folks, > > > > I thought there was a difference between the current measurement of HP > > now and when our cars were made (wheels vrs engine). So wouldn't a > > current 155 HP have a lot more power (given similar weights) than an > > 1969 155 HP car? > > > > Dana > > > > PS If nothing else I would love to have a soft top that goes up as > > easily and seals as well as a Miata's. > > > > > > > > datsunmike wrote: > > > > > > The new 2001 Miata has 155 HP SAE. I doubt that most Roadsters, > including > > > Solex models, would be able to keep up with it although off the line the > > > Roadster might be able to take it because of torque and cubic inches but > the > > > six speed tranny does have a lower 1st gear so it may be close. With > 116HP > > > my car tops out at about 115, with 155HP it's probably closer to 130 or > so. > > > > > > In the handling department there is no comparision. the Miata is much > > > stiffer and well balanced than any Roadster I have ever driven and has > > > better steering. My Konied, sway barred, Miata will blow most Roadsters > away > > > in the corners, except for Calspeed. > > > > > > I'm not talking about race cars here but street cars. > > > > > > 30+ years of technology has made the Miata a great car. Mine is a 91 and > the > > > 2001 Miatas are supposed to be much stiffer and better handling. While I > > > love my Roadster, I also love my Miata. > > > > > > IMHO, > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Stephen McCartney > > > To: > > > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 7:19 PM > > > Subject: Mazda MX5 (Miata, I think) > > > > > > > I just read that Mazda are bringing out a new model of MX5 (which most > > > > people here call a Miata, right?) that will bring it's power up to > about > > > > 112kw, IIRC. > > > > > > > > So now it's on par with a Solex 2000? > > > > > > > > Has anyone here got experiences in taking on these things? I'd assume > the > > > > Mazda would handle better, but maybe isn't as quick? I'd never > thought > > > that > > > > I could beat one, but on paper, it's looking possible... > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Dana Nojima, Ph.D. > > Department of Urology > > VA Medical Center - 112F > > 4150 Clement Street > > San Francisco, CA 94121 > > > > phone: (415) 221-4810 x 2031 > > fax: (415) 750-6639 > > noji-1@pacbell.net > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 21:33:51 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, jason@xio.com Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 23:30:27 EDT Subject: Re: Adjusting the clutch? Hey Fred... Thanks for the great clutch tips. It is always good to go over that type of material. Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 21:43:52 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us, noji@snowman.med.umn.edu, Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 23:40:07 EDT Subject: Re: Re[2]: Mazda MX5 (Miata, I think) << I've done a few things to my SU 2000 so that it stands up very well to a Solex 2000. (Right, Michael? ;> ) >> Yeah... it stands up great! But now I have my missing 1/2 cylinder. Bring it on baby! I agree that lighter does mean faster. I am soon going to be doing a substantial lightening phase to the SRL machine. I hope to take off about 30 lbs of unneeded stuff. Calspeed 67.5 SRL Solex From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Fri Oct 27 21:44:01 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 23:43:32 EDT Subject: Re: Sad News in Roadsterland Yes... I too am sad as I wont be making Doheney this year too. Wishing all a safe and sane Roadster / Classic Datsun weekend. Maybe next year. Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 28 02:18:03 2000 From: "The Belgian Roadster" To: Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 10:20:38 +0200 Subject: Need help assembling rear brakes Hi List, Well, I received 2 answers to my question telling different things! So, how is the rear brake cylinder fixed to the brake plate? I have 4 shims, 2 small with a locking device at the edge , and two 2 large with a lip in the center! Refering to the parts book, the curved shim with the lock at the edge has to be set first, sliding in between the brake lever and the cylinder(that's why it is curved) The other one goes in from the opposite side, that way both shims lock into each other. Tell me if I'm right until here! Now I have 2 more shims. Those with the lip in the middle. Are these shims slided onto the cylinder from the opposite side of the brake lever? Are they both from the same side, or one left/right to the cylinder? Where has the lip to show to? To the brake plate or to the brake line piping? Are these ones build in before the edge locking ones? Chris-The Belgian Roadster From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 28 03:33:37 2000 From: Thomas the Swede To: datsunmike , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 10:40:03 +0200 Subject: Re: Gross vs. net hp In Europe the 2000 Solex was rated at 145 Hp and the 1600 at 90 Hp. The 67˝ 2000 I know of in Sweden is rated at 135 Hp DIN in the car registration document. It's a factory Solex car sold new in Switzerland. The 240 Z was rated 140 Hp in Europe vs. the US 151 Hp SAE Gross. The difference between gross and net hp SAE is usually 10-12% on older Japanese engines. The difference between SAE net and DIN is usually 1-3% higher for DIN because of a slightly different test procedure but sometimes the SAE net Hp can be higher than DIN. Power is measured at 25 degrees C for DIN and 80F(?) for SAE. Thomas datsunmike wrote: > Dana, > > That's exactly right and a point I was going to bring up. Those 150HP > Solexes are SAE GROSS HP figures, not NET figures as used today. > > For us older guys remember when in 1972 all the HP figures dropped for all > the muscle cars?? Chevy 350/300HP cars went to 350/210HP, the Z28 went from > 350/370 to 350/270. That was because they went from gross to net HP ratings. > The same happened to the Japanese cars. The 125HP 2L was probably closer to > 100HP and the 1600 probably closer to 80HP or maybe 75HP. > > FWIW, > Mike > > PS - The soft top action is great too! Takes me about 1.5 minutes to put it > up and about 1 to take it down. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: noji > To: > Cc: > Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 1:09 PM > Subject: Re: Mazda MX5 (Miata, I think) > > > Roadster Folks, > > > > I thought there was a difference between the current measurement of HP > > now and when our cars were made (wheels vrs engine). So wouldn't a > > current 155 HP have a lot more power (given similar weights) than an > > 1969 155 HP car? > > > > Dana > > > > PS If nothing else I would love to have a soft top that goes up as > > easily and seals as well as a Miata's. > > > > > > > > datsunmike wrote: > > > > > > The new 2001 Miata has 155 HP SAE. I doubt that most Roadsters, > including > > > Solex models, would be able to keep up with it although off the line the > > > Roadster might be able to take it because of torque and cubic inches but > the > > > six speed tranny does have a lower 1st gear so it may be close. With > 116HP > > > my car tops out at about 115, with 155HP it's probably closer to 130 or > so. > > > > > > In the handling department there is no comparision. the Miata is much > > > stiffer and well balanced than any Roadster I have ever driven and has > > > better steering. My Konied, sway barred, Miata will blow most Roadsters > away > > > in the corners, except for Calspeed. > > > > > > I'm not talking about race cars here but street cars. > > > > > > 30+ years of technology has made the Miata a great car. Mine is a 91 and > the > > > 2001 Miatas are supposed to be much stiffer and better handling. While I > > > love my Roadster, I also love my Miata. > > > > > > IMHO, > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Stephen McCartney > > > To: > > > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 7:19 PM > > > Subject: Mazda MX5 (Miata, I think) > > > > > > > I just read that Mazda are bringing out a new model of MX5 (which most > > > > people here call a Miata, right?) that will bring it's power up to > about > > > > 112kw, IIRC. > > > > > > > > So now it's on par with a Solex 2000? > > > > > > > > Has anyone here got experiences in taking on these things? I'd assume > the > > > > Mazda would handle better, but maybe isn't as quick? I'd never > thought > > > that > > > > I could beat one, but on paper, it's looking possible... > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Dana Nojima, Ph.D. > > Department of Urology > > VA Medical Center - 112F > > 4150 Clement Street > > San Francisco, CA 94121 > > > > phone: (415) 221-4810 x 2031 > > fax: (415) 750-6639 > > noji-1@pacbell.net From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 28 05:15:08 2000 From: Christopher Coker To: Datsun Roadster Mailing List Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 07:15:07 -0400 Subject: Re: Friendly Texans help me Enjoy the Ride > Nice story. I too wish I'd have owned my toy while in high school. Better > late than never though. My dad brought home a '69 1600 when I was about 5 years old. He used it as a daily driver to and from work, and would drop me off at school in it. On special days he'd put the top down, or take me to school in his '52 MG TD. When I turned 16, I started driving the 1600, and drove it all through high school and six years of college. After college, I moved from Texas to Michigan, and the roadster stayed at my parents' house for about four years, until I got around to buying a house and fixing up the garage. Girls have always liked the car, and still do. After I brought it up to Michigan, I drove it to the single's Bible study I attend, and told a buddy of mine to watch what happens when the girls see it. We got out of class, and within 10 minutes of being in the parking lot, about 10 girls had surrounded the car. No one, except for my buddy, knew the car was mine. He was amazed. He'd never seen anything like that. I'll have to admit, I was a little amazed myself. Happy Roadstering, Chris Coker Royal Oak, MI 1969 1600 SPL311-24529 196? 1600 G Prod Race Car From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 28 06:45:06 2000 From: Robert Porter To: Roadster List Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 08:46:08 -0400 Subject: Steering Wheel Cover There has been some discussion on the list about replacing the original steering wheel with a Grant wheel & special adapter. Wanting to stick to the original, I looked for a leather wrap, but most seemed too large for the Roadster's narrow rim, and the plastic foam ones wrapped with lace looked a little cheesy. Then, viola, PEP Boys to the rescue! For a mere 9.99 they sell a neat leather stitch design with no laces that slips right over and looks like original equipment. It's called Touring Grip and gives a great feel. Hint: Warm it in a VERY LOW oven first, or you'll be wrestling with it forever. Bob Porter 70 1600 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 28 08:39:18 2000 From: Ronnie Day To: "Roadster List" Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 09:38:43 -0500 Subject: (OT) Drill Bits Okay, Since it's the weekend and some of the group at Doheny I thought I'd throw this question out. Where you folks get your drill bits, and do you sharpen them or just replace them? It seems like either the bits that I use are either dull or cheap cast pieces that snap if you look at them crooked. You can get bit sharpeners, I think, and I've seen jigs that are designed to be used with a bench grinder. Does the Sears Craftsman lifetime garamtee cover drill bits, too? Later, Ron Ronnie Day ronday@home.com ------------------ Dallas/Ft. Worth ------------------ '71 510 2-dr (Prepared Class Autocrosser) '73 510 2-dr (Street Toy) From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 28 09:26:17 2000 From: Marc Tyler To: Ronnie Day Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 10:31:22 -0500 Subject: Re: (OT) Drill Bits Ronnie Day wrote: > > Okay, > > Since it's the weekend and some of the group at Doheny I thought I'd > throw this question out. Where you folks get your drill bits, and do you > sharpen them or just replace them? It seems like either the bits that I > use are either dull or cheap cast pieces that snap if you look at them > crooked. > > You can get bit sharpeners, I think, and I've seen jigs that are designed > to be used with a bench grinder. Does the Sears Craftsman lifetime > garamtee cover drill bits, too? > > Later, Ron > > Ronnie Day > ronday@home.com > ------------------ > Dallas/Ft. Worth > ------------------ > '71 510 2-dr (Prepared Class Autocrosser) > '73 510 2-dr (Street Toy) Ron, I've never tried the sharpeners. In the past I've gotten my drills at industrial supply houses. Small Parts Inc. might be a good source (small quantities mailorder) www.smallparts.com -Marc From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sat Oct 28 10:30:12 2000 From: Steve Harvey To: Ronnie Day Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 11:31:49 -0500 Subject: Re: (OT) Drill Bits Hi Ronnie, My background is as a machinist and a cutting tool manufacturer's rep. Most of the hardware store/Sears drill bits are not that good. Even the top of the line bits sold at detail are less in quality then what a machine shop would buy. Better metal and grinding are the key. The way around that however is if you can hand sharpen your own drills. Keeping a lower quality bit shape is the answer. It takes time to develop the technique to properly shapen a drill bit. The standard angle is 118 degrees (included) or 59 degrees for each cutting edge. You can buy, or for that matter, I have a few drill bit angle templates left over from my sales days. I'll send you one if you give me your address. Just remember, you'll need a good flat dress on the grinding wheel and several old drills to practice with. I'd start with a big drill, 1/2" verses a 1/8" to practice with. Good luck Steve Harvey Milwaukee (COLD) Ronnie Day wrote: > Okay, > > Since it's the weekend and some of the group at Doheny I thought I'd > throw this question out. Where you folks get your drill bits, and do you > sharpen them or just replace them? It seems like either the bits that I > use are either dull or cheap cast pieces that snap if you look at them > crooked. > > You can get bit sharpeners, I think, and I've seen jigs that are designed > to be used with a bench grinder. Does the Sears Craftsman lifetime > garamtee cover drill bits, too? > > Later, Ron > > Ronnie Day > ronday@home.com > ------------------ > Dallas/Ft. Worth > ------------------ > '71 510 2-dr (Prepared Class Autocrosser) > '73 510 2-dr (Street Toy) From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 29 14:21:29 2000 From: "Terry and Donna Cost" To: "Datsun Roadsters" Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 15:15:30 -0600 Subject: pounds per horsepower At the SCCA impounds following my runs they let me weigh my roadster and it weighed 2050 pounds. Add my 250 and my roadster is at 2300 pounds. I have the 135 horsepower engine, which gives me just about 17 pounds per horsepower. A 150 horsepower Miata, at 2500 pounds, is also 17 pounds per horsepower. I think that 1 pound per horsepower also is one second, so if I can run the ratio down to 12 pounds per horsepower I can beat Miatas by 5 seconds. I can: a) lose 80-100 pounds b) install a 200 HP engine c) lose 100-200 pounds from the Gray Ghost d) buy a 350 horse Camaro (3000 pounds, 9 pounds/HP) and put Fairlady emblems on it. My son Andy used to beat me regularly at autocrosses by 1/2 second until he got married. He gained a few pounds and now he doesn't beat me regularly any more. I feed him every chance I get. Leisure Suit Terry From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 29 14:36:34 2000 From: Mike Harper To: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 19:49:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Roadster wheels I know this subject comes up periodically, but up to now, I have not needed the info, so I did not pay proper attention... What is the correct offset for replacement wheels, and is it the same for all roadsters and rear wheel drive Datsuns/Nissans? (Toyota/other?) What is the lug pattern measurement? Any suggestions on inexpensive wider wheel alternatives? Mike Harper '66 1600 Charleston SC __________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 29 14:42:20 2000 From: SPL311RDST@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 20:17:58 EDT Subject: 5 left - Datsun Roadster Parking Signs Hello list, Remember the "Datsun Roadster Parking Only" signs? I have 5 "slightly imperfect" ones left. The good ones sold for $25, I'll let these go for $15. (includes shipping) What's wrong w/them? Not a whole helluva lot: little smudges, slight drop-outs (easily touched up), and "just bad enough to notice" double print. I set them out in the yard & stepped back about 15 feet. Unless you're right up on them & being picky they look OK. (The orig's were picked over pretty carefully up close & personal) These are made of 12" x 18" THICK alum. (REAL street sign blanks, not the kind you find at the Malls during holidays) w/ reflective back. Silk-screened, not vinyl stickers. If anyone is interested in a "good" one - we will be doing another run of them sometime during Nov., adding 510 & Z-CAR as well. (They'll go for $25) If you decide you can't live w/out one, let me know ! Thanks, Laurie :-) 70 SPL311 69 SRL311 Chandler, AZ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 29 14:46:58 2000 From: Dat2000srl@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 16:45:18 EST Subject: 13" Libre Wheels Hi list. I am wondering if anyone on the list is runnig 13" X 7" Libre wheeIs. And if so how wide of a tire? just got home from a week long vaccation in Puerto Rico. I was amased to see alot of older Toyotas and Datsuns on the road. Every other car was a corolla or a 210-B210. But what really was exciting was to see many cars equipped with the Libre Wheels. I must have seen about 50 cars with Libre wheels. However they were 13" liibres. I did not see any 14", but then again I didn't stop any moving carrs to check them either. When I told my in-laws that thosee weree the wheels I have been looking for, they took me to a junker, That's what they call it theree, and we found a few. All were 13". a couple were 6" wide with 4" bolt pattern, the other 3 were 7" with 4 1/2" bolt pattern. I brought some hamo, the 7" widee rims look like they will fit, and sinnce they are the correct bolt patterrn, I hope to use them. From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 29 14:50:50 2000 From: SPL311RDST@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 09:34:11 EST Subject: test- don't bother looking this is a test, this is only a test, if it were an actual post, content would have been included here..... Laurie :-) 70 SPL311 69 SRL311 Chandler, AZ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 29 14:54:30 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: SPL311RDST@aol.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 16:53:29 EST Subject: Re: 5 left - Datsun Roadster Parking Signs All, If you have not seen these signs, they are AWESOME!! Really cool stuff for the die hard roadster fan! Say, Laurie, Why not put a pic of one on your website? Sid >From: SPL311RDST@aol.com >Reply-To: SPL311RDST@aol.com >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: 5 left - Datsun Roadster Parking Signs >Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 20:17:58 EDT > >Hello list, > >Remember the "Datsun Roadster Parking Only" signs? I have 5 "slightly >imperfect" ones left. > >The good ones sold for $25, I'll let these go for $15. (includes shipping) > >What's wrong w/them? Not a whole helluva lot: little smudges, slight >drop-outs (easily touched up), and "just bad enough to notice" double >print. >I set them out in the yard & stepped back about 15 feet. Unless you're >right >up on them & being picky they look OK. (The orig's were picked over pretty >carefully up close & personal) > >These are made of 12" x 18" THICK alum. (REAL street sign blanks, not the >kind you find at the Malls during holidays) w/ reflective back. >Silk-screened, not vinyl stickers. > >If anyone is interested in a "good" one - we will be doing another run of >them sometime during Nov., adding 510 & Z-CAR as well. (They'll go for $25) > >If you decide you can't live w/out one, let me know ! > >Thanks, > >Laurie :-) >70 SPL311 >69 SRL311 >Chandler, AZ _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 29 14:58:28 2000 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 16:13:51 -0500 Subject: 31st Annual Pumpkin chase race, Nelson Ledges, Ohio HEAVY RAINS BRING TEAM SLOAN TO A HALT!!! Fortunately that was Friday night on the ride to the track! Saturday morning wasn't quite ready yet when Paul Kort showed up at the motor home headquarters of Sloan Racing just before 7 AM. But he managed to wake everyone up to get the day started before sunrise. Cloudy, cold and very windy. Thursday and Friday's 75 degree temperatures had been replaced with a cool 40. It took awhile to get the cars warmed up. Cathy Ann needed a battery transplant to get things turning. Just to prove that we could actually feel colder than we already were, Teddy Seidenfeld drove in from Pittsburgh in his shiny red 2000, ... with the top DOWN! Teddy jumped right in and helped with the final preparations for morning warmups. Chris and Diane Luers drove in from Columbus, only to inform us that it was much WARMER back home. So much for the day's weather forecast. Ten minutes on the track was barely enough to get the tires warmed, but Cathy Ann knew her 1600 wasn't handling right. Jim said he was running fine, so we let a few pounds of air out of her rear tires. Hopefully that would do it. Qualifying gave everybody another chance at the track. The sun had managed to show up, but the winds persisted and kept things cool. Jim's qualifying laps were smooth and he qualified first for the afternoon's qualifying race. Cathy Ann continued to have handling problems and a new vibration in the steering wheel. The crew attacked Cathy Ann's roadster, determined to find the problem. When the words 'toe-in' were said, Chris commented that we had corrected the toe-in several times over the summer and dove underneath to find a very sloppy idler box. A brief discussion between Chris, head mechanic for Sloan Racing and Teddy, Idler box specialist (long story!) resulted. A quick trip up the ramps gave everybody a good look underneath and the problem was soon corrected, or so we hoped. Lunch was served by the best track Mom a team could ask for, Cathy Sloan (Jim's wife & Cathy Ann's mother). Revitalized and warmed by the sun, which had finally decided to joins us full time, it was back to the cars. Jim's car needed the brakes bled and adjusted. Chris made short work of that task. A few minor adjustments and topping off of fluids was all that was needed to prepare for the afternoon's qualifying race. Unfortunately, Teddy had to depart for Pittsburgh to prepare for a flight out of town. Cathy Ann's steering problems were on all our minds. Paul gave her a final talk on the grid. "Watch how she steers through the first turn, then forget about it and race!" Cathy Ann was starting from the rear of the group after a poor showing in the morning sessions. When the green flag fell, Jim found himself surrounded by a Datsun 510 and a Porsche 914, both in a different class. He was having so much fun swapping places every lap with them, that he never noticed Cathy Ann's progress. The steering problems were gone, the brakes felt good, and the motor was running great. Time to start passing people in her way. Though she never caught Jim, she did manage to turn her best lap time ever at Nelson's and finished second behind Jim. Dad got a big hug at impound from a very happy daughter! Saturday evening was the year end party at the Kort's residence. Good food, Run-off videos, and great company. What could be better. Sunday morning the sun rose over the frosted fields and a hundred race cars at Nelson's. Slowly the silence of the night and the smell of breakfast cooking, was replaced with the sound of high compression motors struggling to start and the smell of starting fluid. Cathy Ann and Jim had stayed up late and adjusted the valves on her car so it would be ready for the day. Hardship practice was slow, mainly due to really cold tires that refused to warm, but both cars were running fine. The sun continued to warm everything and unlike Saturday, no wind was blowing. By the time G Production's group took the track, it was actually starting to be a nice day. Since no race day is without a gremlin or two, Cathy Ann's car refused to go into gear on the false grid when called to the track. Chris and Paul were able to rock the car free of what ever had a hold of it and Cathy roared off to join the other cars on the grid just in time for the start. While Jim was running door to door with a FP CRX and a FP Midget, Cathy fought her way past an EP BMW 2002. Jim was off in first place in GP until the CRX decided to lose its motor. Jim, being the ever helpful sportsman that he is, attempted to help by pushing the CRX, not realizing the CRX was trying to get off the track and out of everybody's way. Jim left a fiberglass fender behind to mark the occasion and continued in a partially open wheeled Datsun. This gave Cathy an opportunity to sneak past dad and continue her battle with the BMW. They traded positions several laps in a row, before Cathy decided it was time to get serious and pulled out for a victory in her class and left the BMW driver wonder who was driving that little roadster! Jim, missing one fender and sporting a shortened hood, was able to regain most of the lost ground but could never quite catch Cathy and the crowd she was racing in. Cathy proudly took first in class and Jim managed to hang on to second place in class. The impound lot was again the scene of a happy family reunion. Thankfully, Jim's missing fender was collected by a corner worker and was returned by the SCCA Track Master, Walt Matenkosky. A quick survey of the damage to Jim's 1600 showed a smashed grill, a bit of bent sheet metal, the aforementioned shortened hood, but an unbent frame. The rest of the day was spent reviewing the year and discussing the off seasons rebuilding schedule, Everybody enjoyed another wonderful lunch prepared by Track Mom, Cathy. Group photos were in order, so with the crew surrounding Cathy's car and trophy, proudly displaying a Datsun banner, another great racing weekend drew to a close. Paul OROC From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 29 15:12:07 2000 From: Thomas the Swede To: datsunmike Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 23:11:20 +0100 Subject: Re: Gross vs. net hp Some still do in both directions. datsunmike wrote: > I think they still lied!!!!! > > Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Thomas the Swede > To: datsunmike > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 1:01 PM > Subject: Re: Gross vs. net hp > > > I think there were other changes done to the Detroit Iron > > between 1970 and 1971-72(?) that count for most of the > > power loss. They lowered the compression ratio and some > > other emission related things were added. > > > > Thomas > > > > PS. The 280 ZX had 145 Hp net and 170 Hp gross in Europe. > > > > datsunmike wrote: > > > > > Tom, > > > > > > It's nice to know how much American car makers fudged their HP figures > in > > > the 60s and early 70s. Thanks. > > > > > > It's also nice to know Datsun was at least in the ball park. > > > > > > Mike > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Thomas the Swede > > > To: datsunmike ; > > > > Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 4:40 AM > > > Subject: Re: Gross vs. net hp > > > > > > > In Europe the 2000 Solex was rated at 145 Hp and the 1600 at 90 Hp. > > > > The 67˝ 2000 I know of in Sweden is rated at 135 Hp DIN in the car > > > > registration document. It's a factory Solex car sold new in > Switzerland. > > > > The 240 Z was rated 140 Hp in Europe vs. the US 151 Hp SAE Gross. > > > > The difference between gross and net hp SAE is usually 10-12% on older > > > > Japanese engines. The difference between SAE net and DIN is usually > > > > 1-3% higher for DIN because of a slightly different test procedure but > > > > sometimes the SAE net Hp can be higher than DIN. > > > > > > > > Power is measured at 25 degrees C for DIN and 80F(?) for SAE. > > > > > > > > Thomas > > > > > > > > datsunmike wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dana, > > > > > > > > > > That's exactly right and a point I was going to bring up. Those > 150HP > > > > > Solexes are SAE GROSS HP figures, not NET figures as used today. > > > > > > > > > > For us older guys remember when in 1972 all the HP figures dropped > for > > > all > > > > > the muscle cars?? Chevy 350/300HP cars went to 350/210HP, the Z28 > went > > > from > > > > > 350/370 to 350/270. That was because they went from gross to net HP > > > ratings. > > > > > The same happened to the Japanese cars. The 125HP 2L was probably > closer > > > to > > > > > 100HP and the 1600 probably closer to 80HP or maybe 75HP. > > > > > > > > > > FWIW, > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > PS - The soft top action is great too! Takes me about 1.5 minutes to > put > > > it > > > > > up and about 1 to take it down. > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: noji > > > > > To: > > > > > Cc: > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 1:09 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: Mazda MX5 (Miata, I think) > > > > > > > > > > > Roadster Folks, > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought there was a difference between the current measurement > of HP > > > > > > now and when our cars were made (wheels vrs engine). So wouldn't > a > > > > > > current 155 HP have a lot more power (given similar weights) than > an > > > > > > 1969 155 HP car? > > > > > > > > > > > > Dana > > > > > > > > > > > > PS If nothing else I would love to have a soft top that goes up as > > > > > > easily and seals as well as a Miata's. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > datsunmike wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The new 2001 Miata has 155 HP SAE. I doubt that most Roadsters, > > > > > including > > > > > > > Solex models, would be able to keep up with it although off the > line > > > the > > > > > > > Roadster might be able to take it because of torque and cubic > inches > > > but > > > > > the > > > > > > > six speed tranny does have a lower 1st gear so it may be close. > With > > > > > 116HP > > > > > > > my car tops out at about 115, with 155HP it's probably closer to > 130 > > > or > > > > > so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the handling department there is no comparision. the Miata is > > > much > > > > > > > stiffer and well balanced than any Roadster I have ever driven > and > > > has > > > > > > > better steering. My Konied, sway barred, Miata will blow most > > > Roadsters > > > > > away > > > > > > > in the corners, except for Calspeed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not talking about race cars here but street cars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30+ years of technology has made the Miata a great car. Mine is > a 91 > > > and > > > > > the > > > > > > > 2001 Miatas are supposed to be much stiffer and better handling. > > > While I > > > > > > > love my Roadster, I also love my Miata. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IMHO, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: Stephen McCartney > > > > > > > To: > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 7:19 PM > > > > > > > Subject: Mazda MX5 (Miata, I think) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just read that Mazda are bringing out a new model of MX5 > (which > > > most > > > > > > > > people here call a Miata, right?) that will bring it's power > up to > > > > > about > > > > > > > > 112kw, IIRC. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So now it's on par with a Solex 2000? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone here got experiences in taking on these things? > I'd > > > assume > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Mazda would handle better, but maybe isn't as quick? I'd > never > > > > > thought > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > I could beat one, but on paper, it's looking possible... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Dana Nojima, Ph.D. > > > > > > Department of Urology > > > > > > VA Medical Center - 112F > > > > > > 4150 Clement Street > > > > > > San Francisco, CA 94121 > > > > > > > > > > > > phone: (415) 221-4810 x 2031 > > > > > > fax: (415) 750-6639 > > > > > > noji-1@pacbell.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 29 15:12:23 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Terry and Donna Cost" , Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 17:06:00 -0500 Subject: Re: pounds per horsepower Terry, My Miata weighs exactly the same as my Roadster. The newer ones gained 100lbs but gained 40HP! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Terry and Donna Cost To: Datsun Roadsters Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 4:15 PM Subject: pounds per horsepower > At the SCCA impounds following my runs they let me weigh my roadster and it > weighed 2050 pounds. Add my 250 and my roadster is at 2300 pounds. I have > the 135 horsepower engine, which gives me just about 17 pounds per > horsepower. A 150 horsepower Miata, at 2500 pounds, is also 17 pounds per > horsepower. I think that 1 pound per horsepower also is one second, so if I > can run the ratio down to 12 pounds per horsepower I can beat Miatas by 5 > seconds. I can: > > a) lose 80-100 pounds > b) install a 200 HP engine > c) lose 100-200 pounds from the Gray Ghost > d) buy a 350 horse Camaro (3000 pounds, 9 pounds/HP) and put Fairlady > emblems on it. > > My son Andy used to beat me regularly at autocrosses by 1/2 second until he > got married. He gained a few pounds and now he doesn't beat me regularly > any more. I feed him every chance I get. > > Leisure Suit Terry > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 29 15:40:42 2000 From: Jim Tyler To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 17:55:01 -0500 Subject: 1600 Cam-Great deal Thanks to everyone who had so many kind things to say regarding my Dad. Those emails meant alot and really helped. I will be selling off quite a bit of the roadster inventory over the next several months. First item is a new 1.6 cam and lifters on ebay. Item #482660163 If you are doing a 1.6 or 1500 or stroker, this is a great deal. Don't miss out! Thanks very much, Jim From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 29 16:09:04 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 18:03:20 -0500 Subject: Re: 31st Annual Pumpkin chase race, Nelson Ledges, Ohio Paul, Glad to hear you had a mahvalous time and that the Roadster was a winner as well as the driver, and her dad. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul <9laser3@bright.net> To: Cc: Walt Matenkosky ; Teddy Seidenfeld ; Jim & Cathy Sloan ; Ohio Roadster Owners Club Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 4:13 PM Subject: 31st Annual Pumpkin chase race, Nelson Ledges, Ohio > HEAVY RAINS BRING TEAM SLOAN TO A HALT!!! > > Fortunately that was Friday night on the ride to the track! Saturday > morning wasn't quite ready yet when Paul Kort showed up at the motor home > headquarters of Sloan Racing just before 7 AM. But he managed to wake > everyone up to get the day started before sunrise. Cloudy, cold and very > windy. Thursday and Friday's 75 degree temperatures had been replaced with > a > cool 40. It took awhile to get the cars warmed up. Cathy Ann needed a > battery transplant to get things turning. > Just to prove that we could actually feel colder than we already were, > Teddy Seidenfeld drove in from Pittsburgh in his shiny red 2000, ... with > the top DOWN! Teddy jumped right in and helped with the final preparations > for morning warmups. Chris and Diane Luers drove in from Columbus, only to > inform us that it was much WARMER back home. So much for the day's weather > forecast. > Ten minutes on the track was barely enough to get the tires warmed, but > Cathy Ann knew her 1600 wasn't handling right. Jim said he was running > fine, > so we let a few pounds of air out of her rear tires. Hopefully that would > do it. > Qualifying gave everybody another chance at the track. The sun had > managed to show up, but the winds persisted and kept things cool. Jim's > qualifying laps were smooth and he qualified first for the afternoon's > qualifying race. Cathy Ann continued to have handling problems and a new > vibration in the steering wheel. The crew attacked Cathy Ann's roadster, > determined to find the problem. When the words 'toe-in' were said, Chris > commented that we had corrected the toe-in several times over the summer and > dove underneath to find a very sloppy idler box. A brief discussion between > Chris, head mechanic for Sloan Racing and Teddy, Idler box specialist (long > story!) resulted. A quick trip up the ramps gave everybody a good look > underneath and the problem was soon corrected, or so we hoped. > Lunch was served by the best track Mom a team could ask for, Cathy Sloan > (Jim's wife & Cathy Ann's mother). Revitalized and warmed by the sun, which > had finally decided to joins us full time, it was back to the cars. Jim's > car needed the brakes bled and adjusted. Chris made short work of that > task. > A few minor adjustments and topping off of fluids was all that was needed to > prepare for the afternoon's qualifying race. Unfortunately, Teddy had to > depart for Pittsburgh to prepare for a flight out of town. Cathy Ann's > steering problems were on all our minds. Paul gave her a final talk on the > grid. "Watch how she steers through the first turn, then forget about it > and > race!" Cathy Ann was starting from the rear of the group after a poor > showing in the morning sessions. > When the green flag fell, Jim found himself surrounded by a Datsun 510 > and > a Porsche 914, both in a different class. He was having so much fun > swapping places every lap with them, that he never noticed Cathy Ann's > progress. The steering problems were gone, the brakes felt good, and the > motor was running great. Time to start passing people in her way. Though > she never caught Jim, she did manage to turn her best lap time ever at > Nelson's and finished second behind Jim. Dad got a big hug at impound from > a very happy daughter! > Saturday evening was the year end party at the Kort's residence. Good > food, Run-off videos, and great company. What could be better. > Sunday morning the sun rose over the frosted fields and a hundred race > cars at Nelson's. Slowly the silence of the night and the smell of > breakfast cooking, was replaced with the sound of high compression motors > struggling to start and the smell of starting fluid. Cathy Ann and Jim had > stayed up late and adjusted the valves on her car so it would be ready for > the day. > Hardship practice was slow, mainly due to really cold tires that refused > to warm, but both cars were running fine. The sun continued to warm > everything and unlike Saturday, no wind was blowing. By the time G > Production's group took the track, it was actually starting to be a nice > day. Since no race day is without a gremlin or two, Cathy Ann's car refused > to go into gear on the false grid when called to the track. Chris and Paul > were able to rock the car free of what ever had a hold of it and Cathy > roared off to join the other cars on the grid just in time for the start. > While Jim was running door to door with a FP CRX and a FP Midget, Cathy > fought her way past an EP BMW 2002. Jim was off in first place in GP until > the CRX decided to lose its motor. Jim, being the ever helpful sportsman > that he is, attempted to help by pushing the CRX, not realizing the CRX was > trying to get off the track and out of everybody's way. Jim left a > fiberglass fender behind to mark the occasion and continued in a partially > open wheeled Datsun. This gave Cathy an opportunity to sneak past dad and > continue her battle with the BMW. They traded positions several laps in a > row, before Cathy decided it was time to get serious and pulled out for a > victory in her class and left the BMW driver wonder who was driving that > little roadster! Jim, missing one fender and sporting a shortened hood, was > able to regain most of the lost ground but could never quite catch Cathy and > the crowd she was racing in. Cathy proudly took first in class and Jim > managed to hang on to second place in class. The impound lot was again the > scene of a happy family reunion. Thankfully, Jim's missing fender was > collected by a corner worker and was returned by the SCCA Track Master, Walt > Matenkosky. A quick survey of the damage to Jim's 1600 showed a smashed > grill, a bit of bent sheet metal, the aforementioned shortened hood, but an > unbent frame. > The rest of the day was spent reviewing the year and discussing the off > seasons rebuilding schedule, Everybody enjoyed another wonderful lunch > prepared by Track Mom, Cathy. Group photos were in order, so with the crew > surrounding Cathy's car and trophy, proudly displaying a Datsun banner, > another great racing weekend drew to a close. > > Paul > OROC > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 29 16:14:13 2000 From: CarterCM@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 18:13:40 EST Subject: NEW EMAIL ADDRESS Hi All, Just a note to let those who care know that I have changed my email address for the Roadster list mail. New address is: SRL311guy@aol.com Regards, Craig Carter Fountain Valley, CA 1970 SRL311 #14100 "DAT2000" 1968 Datsun Roadster DP racecars From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 29 16:15:29 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: , Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 18:07:49 -0500 Subject: Re: 13" Libre Wheels 13" Libres were in production much longer than the 14" wheels. I think the 14" wheels were last cast in the very early 80s and the 13" wheels were made into the 90s. I don't know why. The 13" wheels will not clear the calipers unless the calipers are modified. 14" wheels have a hard time clearing the brakes and whatever you do don't have the tape on weights placed in the center of the inner rim. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 4:45 PM Subject: 13" Libre Wheels > Hi list. I am wondering if anyone on the list is runnig 13" X 7" Libre > wheeIs. And if so how wide of a tire? just got home from a week long > vaccation in Puerto Rico. I was amased to see alot of older Toyotas and > Datsuns on the road. Every other car was a corolla or a 210-B210. But what > really was exciting was to see many cars equipped with the Libre Wheels. I > must have seen about 50 cars with Libre wheels. However they were 13" > liibres. I did not see any 14", but then again I didn't stop any moving carrs > to check them either. When I told my in-laws that thosee weree the wheels I > have been looking for, they took me to a junker, That's what they call it > theree, and we found a few. All were 13". a couple were 6" wide with 4" bolt > pattern, the other 3 were 7" with 4 1/2" bolt pattern. I brought some hamo, > the 7" widee rims look like they will fit, and sinnce they are the correct > bolt patterrn, I hope to use them. From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 29 16:20:49 2000 From: dhbain@qwest.net To: List Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 11:36:12 -0700 Subject: Car 33 Just a curiosity question. I noticed that there is a number 33 on the side of one of the die-cast models. I forget who raced that number. A friend uses a call-sign of Sanju-San which he told me is Japanese for 33. So, I was wondering if anyone had a license plate "Sanju-San"? From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 29 16:29:22 2000 From: dhbain@qwest.net To: Robert Porter Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 11:31:26 -0700 Subject: Re: Steering Wheel Cover Robert Porter wrote: > Hint: Warm it in a VERY LOW oven first, or you'll be wrestling with it > forever. Just how low does that oven have to be? It's already on the floor! hehehehehehehe Couldn't help myself, was up all night. hehehehehehe From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 29 17:23:43 2000 From: Dat2000srl@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 19:23:07 EST Subject: 13" Libre Wheels ...Wherees Daniel when I need him??? So.... I had to find out myself. The wheels are going to be a real tight fit in the front, but the back look ok so far, I see that the calipers are not going to be as much of a problem as the wheel hub, I think the wheels need to be reeeemed out about 1/16". In the mean time the seearch will conntinue. Perrhaaps my PR connection can finnd the 14" wheels. Doen't Daniel have any wild ideas for this one? Any onne want to buy some 13X6 wheels? Make me an offer. Larry From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 29 18:24:44 2000 From: To: Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 01:17:22 -0000 Subject: brake cylinders These look good... http://www.hyedracyl.com/datsun.html Has anybody here had any dealings with these stainless steel cylinders? They are fairly expensive but are they worth the investment? Eddie England 1969 SRL311 eddie@ratdat.com pics at www.ratdat.com From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 29 18:46:01 2000 From: "Andrew Murphy" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 17:45:35 PST Subject: Doheny 2000 Pics Hello All The weather cooperated with us and by the afternoon, Surfside 2000 saw a beautiful day. There were plenty of great cars and surprises at the show. Roadster turnout was good although we did not have any roadsters from the BADROC crowd turn up although Van did make an appearance. I met several new people that are now going to part of the SoCalROC crew including Jeff Hurlbert who brought a 66 1600 that was just as nice as any you have everseen. He won best roadster with it. A special note goes to Jon Frampton's 67.5 1600. He won a technical merit trophy directly from Nissan Motors Corp and was as proud as you can imagine. Plenty of Zs, dimes, and even a PL211 was there. It was absolutely great and we all had a great time. A special guest car was a Silvia Spec R directly from Japan. It was an absolutely gorgoeous car and we all just about cried because this car will never be sold in this country. It was brought over under exemption to use the Nissan Proving Track in Arizona. This car will get crushed later this year. A total shame as it is a fast and beautiful car. This car would kill any honda or Acura placed in its path. So check out the pics! http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=172261&a=9627858 Andrew Murphy SoCalROC _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 29 18:56:05 2000 From: Ron Hamilton To: Doris , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 19:05:41 -0700 Subject: test for Jim (ignore) Might be your e-mail server if you get mail from the list and can send mail to me. If you were off the list you wouldn't get ANY list mail. I get your mail so the server works here. Ron Doris wrote: > Ron, > > I need a little help with some email. I've tried to post a couple > answers in the past two weeks to the List but they don't show. I can > get normal email and the last thing I got from the List was yesterday > morning. I just don't see my posts. > > Would you send me a test post with these addressed? : dhbain@qwest.net > and datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > Thanks! > > Jim From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 29 20:00:06 2000 From: CalSpeed@aol.com To: solex67@hotmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 21:58:57 EST Subject: Re: Doheny 2000 Pics In a message dated 10/30/00 1:47:21 AM !!!First Boot!!!, solex67@hotmail.com writes: << The weather cooperated with us and by the afternoon, Surfside 2000 saw a beautiful day. There were plenty of great cars and surprises at the show. Roadster turnout was good although we did not have any roadsters from the BADROC crowd turn up... >> THanks for the great pictures. Although it is a great year for BADROC it wasnt a good year for too much travel. Two babies born to members this year. But we were there in spirit. Maybe next year? Calspeed From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 29 20:03:32 2000 From: dhbain@qwest.net To: List Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 13:02:13 -0700 Subject: Testing Have not seen any posts I have made. From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 29 20:06:24 2000 From: "The Belgian Roadster" To: Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 18:42:25 +0100 Subject: Received help for rear brake assembly Many Thanks to all of you, especially to Sidney Raper and Nick Burns. Did it their way. Cylinder is now perfectly in place and still sliding back and forth! Chris-The Belgian Roadster From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 29 20:09:13 2000 From: dhbain@qwest.net To: J Friederich Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 09:49:48 -0700 Subject: TEST (OT) John, this is a test on my part since I cannot seem to post to the List from Phoenix. I am replying to both you and the List. One, to see if it will pop on the List. Two, to see if it's going to you as well because I would like to know if you got it once for your reply and once for the List. Thanks Jim From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 29 20:14:12 2000 From: "spencer" To: Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 15:20:14 -0700 Subject: Horsepower rating... A lot of years ago, when I turned wrenches for the local Mercedes/Porsche/BMW dealer, if you asked the (Mercedes) factory rep about the horsepower of their engines, the answer was always the same: sufficient. How very German. Mark in Modesto pale yellow 67.5 1600 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 29 20:14:54 2000 From: "J Friederich" To: , , , Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 19:53:27 -0700 Subject: Re: Mazda MX5 (Miata, I think) There have to be many out there who own both a 'stock' Roadster and a 'stock' Miata (I do...) I'm quite sure I could run slightly better autocross lap times in the Miata, but not a lot better. Maybe I'll run both this year and confirm my 'seat of pants' impression... -John F '69 2000 Solex (and '94 Miata) >In a message dated 10/27/00 12:48:52 AM !!!First Boot!!!, >datsunmike@nyc.rr.com writes: > ><< My Konied, sway barred, Miata will blow most Roadsters away > in the corners, except for Calspeed. >> > >Oh man...! I am so honored. But please, I wouldnt be so sure about that >comment. ;>) > >Michael "Calspeed" Carion > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 29 20:20:19 2000 From: Thomas the Swede To: datsunmike Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 19:01:02 +0100 Subject: Re: Gross vs. net hp I think there were other changes done to the Detroit Iron between 1970 and 1971-72(?) that count for most of the power loss. They lowered the compression ratio and some other emission related things were added. Thomas PS. The 280 ZX had 145 Hp net and 170 Hp gross in Europe. datsunmike wrote: > Tom, > > It's nice to know how much American car makers fudged their HP figures in > the 60s and early 70s. Thanks. > > It's also nice to know Datsun was at least in the ball park. > > Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Thomas the Swede > To: datsunmike ; > Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 4:40 AM > Subject: Re: Gross vs. net hp > > > In Europe the 2000 Solex was rated at 145 Hp and the 1600 at 90 Hp. > > The 67˝ 2000 I know of in Sweden is rated at 135 Hp DIN in the car > > registration document. It's a factory Solex car sold new in Switzerland. > > The 240 Z was rated 140 Hp in Europe vs. the US 151 Hp SAE Gross. > > The difference between gross and net hp SAE is usually 10-12% on older > > Japanese engines. The difference between SAE net and DIN is usually > > 1-3% higher for DIN because of a slightly different test procedure but > > sometimes the SAE net Hp can be higher than DIN. > > > > Power is measured at 25 degrees C for DIN and 80F(?) for SAE. > > > > Thomas > > > > datsunmike wrote: > > > > > Dana, > > > > > > That's exactly right and a point I was going to bring up. Those 150HP > > > Solexes are SAE GROSS HP figures, not NET figures as used today. > > > > > > For us older guys remember when in 1972 all the HP figures dropped for > all > > > the muscle cars?? Chevy 350/300HP cars went to 350/210HP, the Z28 went > from > > > 350/370 to 350/270. That was because they went from gross to net HP > ratings. > > > The same happened to the Japanese cars. The 125HP 2L was probably closer > to > > > 100HP and the 1600 probably closer to 80HP or maybe 75HP. > > > > > > FWIW, > > > Mike > > > > > > PS - The soft top action is great too! Takes me about 1.5 minutes to put > it > > > up and about 1 to take it down. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: noji > > > To: > > > Cc: > > > Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 1:09 PM > > > Subject: Re: Mazda MX5 (Miata, I think) > > > > > > > Roadster Folks, > > > > > > > > I thought there was a difference between the current measurement of HP > > > > now and when our cars were made (wheels vrs engine). So wouldn't a > > > > current 155 HP have a lot more power (given similar weights) than an > > > > 1969 155 HP car? > > > > > > > > Dana > > > > > > > > PS If nothing else I would love to have a soft top that goes up as > > > > easily and seals as well as a Miata's. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > datsunmike wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The new 2001 Miata has 155 HP SAE. I doubt that most Roadsters, > > > including > > > > > Solex models, would be able to keep up with it although off the line > the > > > > > Roadster might be able to take it because of torque and cubic inches > but > > > the > > > > > six speed tranny does have a lower 1st gear so it may be close. With > > > 116HP > > > > > my car tops out at about 115, with 155HP it's probably closer to 130 > or > > > so. > > > > > > > > > > In the handling department there is no comparision. the Miata is > much > > > > > stiffer and well balanced than any Roadster I have ever driven and > has > > > > > better steering. My Konied, sway barred, Miata will blow most > Roadsters > > > away > > > > > in the corners, except for Calspeed. > > > > > > > > > > I'm not talking about race cars here but street cars. > > > > > > > > > > 30+ years of technology has made the Miata a great car. Mine is a 91 > and > > > the > > > > > 2001 Miatas are supposed to be much stiffer and better handling. > While I > > > > > love my Roadster, I also love my Miata. > > > > > > > > > > IMHO, > > > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: Stephen McCartney > > > > > To: > > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 7:19 PM > > > > > Subject: Mazda MX5 (Miata, I think) > > > > > > > > > > > I just read that Mazda are bringing out a new model of MX5 (which > most > > > > > > people here call a Miata, right?) that will bring it's power up to > > > about > > > > > > 112kw, IIRC. > > > > > > > > > > > > So now it's on par with a Solex 2000? > > > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone here got experiences in taking on these things? I'd > assume > > > the > > > > > > Mazda would handle better, but maybe isn't as quick? I'd never > > > thought > > > > > that > > > > > > I could beat one, but on paper, it's looking possible... > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Dana Nojima, Ph.D. > > > > Department of Urology > > > > VA Medical Center - 112F > > > > 4150 Clement Street > > > > San Francisco, CA 94121 > > > > > > > > phone: (415) 221-4810 x 2031 > > > > fax: (415) 750-6639 > > > > noji-1@pacbell.net > > > > > > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 29 20:39:43 2000 From: SPL311RDST@aol.com To: spencer@thevision.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 22:39:07 EST Subject: Re: Horsepower rating... In a message dated 10/29/00 8:17:22 PM US Mountain Standard Time, spencer@thevision.net writes: > if you asked the (Mercedes) factory rep about > the horsepower of their engines, the answer was always the same: > sufficient. > > How very German. That might have been the reps view, but that WAS the "official" listing from Aston Martin for many years. They wouldnt even bother to give out the actual HP figs. "If ya had to ask....." Laurie :-) 70 SPL311 69 SRL311 Chandler, AZ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 29 21:02:36 2000 From: PETER VANDERPAS To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 20:01:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: Shasta 2001 Dates? I figure it must be July 5 - 8 next year. Is this correct? ===== Peter van der Pas '68 2000 Mountain View, CA __________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Sun Oct 29 22:13:00 2000 From: KWS711@aol.com To: giraffehauler@yahoo.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 00:12:03 EST Subject: Re: Shasta 2001 Dates? It's always the first weekend after the 4th of July. Does anybody have a line on fibreglass parts; hood, trunk, etc.? Kim 68 2000 CSP NOWROC From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 30 00:03:54 2000 From: Roman Rist To: Paul <9laser3@bright.net> Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 23:03:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: 31st Annual Pumpkin chase race, Nelson Ledges, Ohio > Cathy decided it was time to get serious and pulled out > for a > victory in her class and left the BMW driver wonder who was driving > that > little roadster Glad to hear that Roadsters are still winning!!! RR __________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 30 06:31:50 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: KWS711@aol.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 08:31:20 EST Subject: Re: Shasta 2001 Dates? Kim, Try Performance Fiberglass. Here is a link to the Roadster products that they have: http://www.performancefiberglass.com/roadster.htm Another company is Japco. Here is their web site: http://www.piner.com/japco/ I have not seen nor used these products, I have just seen them on the web. Sid >From: KWS711@aol.com >Reply-To: KWS711@aol.com >To: giraffehauler@yahoo.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Re: Shasta 2001 Dates? >Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 00:12:03 EST > >It's always the first weekend after the 4th of July. > >Does anybody have a line on fibreglass parts; hood, trunk, etc.? > >Kim >68 2000 CSP >NOWROC _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 30 06:49:07 2000 From: "Mike Faggart" To: "Mike Harper" , , Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 08:42:27 -0500 Subject: Re: Roadster wheels Mike Harper, where were you for Road Atlanta weekend? Mike Faggart SEROC, NOROC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Harper" To: ; Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 9:49 PM Subject: Re: Roadster wheels > I know this subject comes up periodically, but up to > now, I have not needed the info, so I did not pay > proper attention... > > What is the correct offset for replacement wheels, and > is it the same for all roadsters and rear wheel drive > Datsuns/Nissans? (Toyota/other?) What is the lug > pattern measurement? > > Any suggestions on inexpensive wider wheel > alternatives? > > Mike Harper > '66 1600 > Charleston SC > > __________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 30 07:22:39 2000 From: Don Miller To: Dat2000srl@aol.com Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 06:22:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: 13" Libre Wheels 13" wheels will not work on the front of the car without some modification. You will need to remove 3/32" from the outside edge of the Rotor and then slot to caliper holes too slide in the caliper to clear the inside of the wheel. You also will need a wheel with 3" back space to make this work. Don Miller 69 Turbo V-6 with 13x7 fronts and 13x10 rears Meridian, ID --- Dat2000srl@aol.com wrote: > Hi list. I am wondering if anyone on the list is > runnig 13" X 7" Libre > wheeIs. And if so how wide of a tire? just got home > from a week long > vaccation in Puerto Rico. I was amased to see alot > of older Toyotas and > Datsuns on the road. Every other car was a corolla > or a 210-B210. But what > really was exciting was to see many cars equipped > with the Libre Wheels. I > must have seen about 50 cars with Libre wheels. > However they were 13" > liibres. I did not see any 14", but then again I > didn't stop any moving carrs > to check them either. When I told my in-laws that > thosee weree the wheels I > have been looking for, they took me to a junker, > That's what they call it > theree, and we found a few. All were 13". a couple > were 6" wide with 4" bolt > pattern, the other 3 were 7" with 4 1/2" bolt > pattern. I brought some hamo, > the 7" widee rims look like they will fit, and > sinnce they are the correct > bolt patterrn, I hope to use them. __________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 30 07:39:11 2000 From: Doris To: List Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 07:38:02 -0700 Subject: Thanks Thanks for the feedback and patience with my testing. Had to reload the computer last week and wasn't sure if I messed up some settings. Must have been my email server on a long weekend. Thanks again! Jim From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 30 07:50:21 2000 From: "Ben Zech" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 14:49:57 GMT Subject: Front Brake Housing. Does it need to be so heavy? Question regarding brakes: Front brake mounts...heavy casting that calipers mount into. Could some of this material be removed? Does it serve a purpose for balance or cooling? Everytime I work on brakes, I wonder about this. BZ-RZ N.C. SPL/SRL "SEROC" motormite@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 30 07:52:07 2000 From: "Ben Zech" To: solex67@hotmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 14:51:45 GMT Subject: Re: Doheny 2000 Pics Pictures are great, thanks for sharing. Looks like you guy's had another great turnout. BZ-RZ N.C. SPL/SRL "SEROC" motormite@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 30 08:22:08 2000 From: andycost@att.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 15:21:39 +0000 Subject: Re: pounds per horsepower Let's put your theory to the test. We are going autocrossing on the 12th of November. I'll lose 50 lbs and you gain 50 lbs. With a net of 100 lbs difference we should have a .74 pound per horsepower difference which comes to .4 seconds at the autocross. Andy BTW- My bike has 3 pounds per horsepower. I have no doubt that a roadster could beat it at an autocross though. > At the SCCA impounds following my runs they let me weigh my roadster and it > weighed 2050 pounds. Add my 250 and my roadster is at 2300 pounds. I have > the 135 horsepower engine, which gives me just about 17 pounds per > horsepower. A 150 horsepower Miata, at 2500 pounds, is also 17 pounds per > horsepower. I think that 1 pound per horsepower also is one second, so if I > can run the ratio down to 12 pounds per horsepower I can beat Miatas by 5 > seconds. I can: > > a) lose 80-100 pounds > b) install a 200 HP engine > c) lose 100-200 pounds from the Gray Ghost > d) buy a 350 horse Camaro (3000 pounds, 9 pounds/HP) and put Fairlady > emblems on it. > > My son Andy used to beat me regularly at autocrosses by 1/2 second until he > got married. He gained a few pounds and now he doesn't beat me regularly > any more. I feed him every chance I get. > > Leisure Suit Terry > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 30 08:35:51 2000 From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com To: Steve Harvey Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 07:34:30 -0800 Subject: Re: (OT) Drill Bits Properly sharpening a drill bit certainly does take practice, and a very light touch. In the machinist's apprenticeship program I was in while in junior college, one of the skills the students were required to develop was hand-sharpening drill bits. The instructor gave each student three bits encompassing a range of sizes. We had to sharpen them and drill a hole with each of them in a block of mild steel. The instructor miked the holes, and we only passed if the hole miked out at no more than .003" over the nominal drill size. Better if you didn't have your morning coffee that day - shaky hands = bad sharpening job! Gary McCormick San Jose, CA Steve Harvey wrote: > Hi Ronnie, > My background is as a machinist and a cutting tool manufacturer's rep. Most > of the hardware store/Sears drill bits are not that good. Even the top of the > line bits sold at detail are less in quality then what a machine shop would > buy. Better metal and grinding are the key. The way around that however is if > you can hand sharpen your own drills. Keeping a lower quality bit shape is > the answer. It takes time to develop the technique to properly shapen a drill > bit. The standard angle is 118 degrees (included) or 59 degrees for each > cutting edge. You can buy, or for that matter, I have a few drill bit angle > templates left over from my sales days. I'll send you one if you give me your > address. Just remember, you'll need a good flat dress on the grinding wheel > and several old drills to practice with. I'd start with a big drill, 1/2" > verses a 1/8" to practice with. > Good luck > Steve Harvey > Milwaukee (COLD) > > Ronnie Day wrote: > > > Okay, > > > > Since it's the weekend and some of the group at Doheny I thought I'd > > throw this question out. Where you folks get your drill bits, and do you > > sharpen them or just replace them? It seems like either the bits that I > > use are either dull or cheap cast pieces that snap if you look at them > > crooked. > > > > You can get bit sharpeners, I think, and I've seen jigs that are designed > > to be used with a bench grinder. Does the Sears Craftsman lifetime > > garamtee cover drill bits, too? > > > > Later, Ron > > > > Ronnie Day > > ronday@home.com > > ------------------ > > Dallas/Ft. Worth > > ------------------ > > '71 510 2-dr (Prepared Class Autocrosser) > > '73 510 2-dr (Street Toy) From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 30 08:38:34 2000 From: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com To: sidney raper Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 07:37:57 -0800 Subject: Re: 5 left - Datsun Roadster Parking Signs Ditto what Sid says - the signs are great, though given the status of my Roadster, mine might more appropriately say: "Datsun Roadster Only Parking" I guess that would be the NOROC version! Gary McCormick San Jose, CA sidney raper wrote: > All, > > If you have not seen these signs, they are AWESOME!! Really cool stuff for > the die hard roadster fan! Say, Laurie, Why not put a pic of one on your > website? > > Sid > > >From: SPL311RDST@aol.com > >Reply-To: SPL311RDST@aol.com > >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > >Subject: 5 left - Datsun Roadster Parking Signs > >Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 20:17:58 EDT > > > >Hello list, > > > >Remember the "Datsun Roadster Parking Only" signs? I have 5 "slightly > >imperfect" ones left. > > > >The good ones sold for $25, I'll let these go for $15. (includes shipping) > > > >What's wrong w/them? Not a whole helluva lot: little smudges, slight > >drop-outs (easily touched up), and "just bad enough to notice" double > >print. > >I set them out in the yard & stepped back about 15 feet. Unless you're > >right > >up on them & being picky they look OK. (The orig's were picked over pretty > >carefully up close & personal) > > > >These are made of 12" x 18" THICK alum. (REAL street sign blanks, not the > >kind you find at the Malls during holidays) w/ reflective back. > >Silk-screened, not vinyl stickers. > > > >If anyone is interested in a "good" one - we will be doing another run of > >them sometime during Nov., adding 510 & Z-CAR as well. (They'll go for $25) > > > >If you decide you can't live w/out one, let me know ! > > > >Thanks, > > > >Laurie :-) > >70 SPL311 > >69 SRL311 > >Chandler, AZ > > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 30 09:24:32 2000 From: "Ryan, Richard" To: "'dhbain@qwest.net'" , Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 08:25:46 -0800 Subject: RE: Car 33 Bob Sharp Dick Ryan ex. 24022 (650)312-4022 Risk Management Dept. SM 2000/2 FAX (650)312-5830 -----Original Message----- From: dhbain@qwest.net [mailto:dhbain@qwest.net] Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 11:36 AM To: List Subject: Car 33 Just a curiosity question. I noticed that there is a number 33 on the side of one of the die-cast models. I forget who raced that number. A friend uses a call-sign of Sanju-San which he told me is Japanese for 33. So, I was wondering if anyone had a license plate "Sanju-San"? From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 30 11:45:18 2000 From: "Phyllis Almazan" To: "PETER VANDERPAS" , Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:45:27 -0800 Subject: Re: Shasta 2001 Dates? The events for the Mt. Shasta Datsun Roadster Meet, begin on Friday, July 6 with, either the "Coast" or another fun event, Saturday July 7, will be the show 'n shine and awards dinner, Sunday July 8, if there's any interest, a "Run to the Rocks". For the year 2002, the Mt. Shasta Roadster event will be postponed, due to July 4th falling so close to "our regularly scheduled weekend" to the following weekend, which will be, I think around July 12, 2002. If you are not on the mailing list for the "Roadster" meet, and would like to receive a flyer, e-mail me your address at ugly@softcom.net . ----- Original Message ----- From: PETER VANDERPAS To: Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 8:01 PM Subject: Shasta 2001 Dates? > I figure it must be July 5 - 8 next year. Is this > correct? > > > > ===== > Peter van der Pas > '68 2000 > Mountain View, CA > > __________________________________________________ > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 30 13:02:11 2000 From: SPL311RDST@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 15:00:56 EST Subject: Fwd: HELP - calipers --part1_b8.d2a5304.272f2d78_boundary Got this in my eMail box... I guess the guy is somewhere in Central TX. Can anyone out there steer him in the right direction? Local help? Laurie :-) 70 SPL311 69 SRL311 Chandler, AZ --part1_b8.d2a5304.272f2d78_boundary Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: From: TXMaster2you@aol.com Full-name: TXMaster2you Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:39:44 EST Subject: HELP To: SPL311RDST@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 I am working on a 1968 Datsun Roadster 1600 Spl311 Looking for a set of front Caliper Cylinders for both sides. Any Idea. I also would be willing to have the ones I have be resleved. Any Ideas. Thanks Bob --part1_b8.d2a5304.272f2d78_boundary-- From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 30 14:37:34 2000 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: , Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 16:36:33 -0500 Subject: Fiberglass fenders for Datsun roadsters. Team Sloan is in the market for new fiberglass fenders for both Datsun 1600s. They are both SCCA G Production cars. Has any one out there used JAP-CO or Performance Fiberglass fenders? Any other companies we should be looking at? Something on the East coast or at least closer to Ohio would help save some freight money. TIA, Paul OROC -----Original Message----- From: sidney raper To: KWS711@aol.com ; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Monday, October 30, 2000 8:37 AM Subject: Re: Shasta 2001 Dates? >Kim, > >Try Performance Fiberglass. Here is a link to the Roadster products that >they have: > >http://www.performancefiberglass.com/roadster.htm > >Another company is Japco. Here is their web site: > >http://www.piner.com/japco/ > >I have not seen nor used these products, I have just seen them on the web. > >Sid > > >>From: KWS711@aol.com >>Reply-To: KWS711@aol.com >>To: giraffehauler@yahoo.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >>Subject: Re: Shasta 2001 Dates? >>Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 00:12:03 EST >> >>It's always the first weekend after the 4th of July. >> >>Does anybody have a line on fibreglass parts; hood, trunk, etc.? >> >>Kim >>68 2000 CSP >>NOWROC > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 30 14:56:59 2000 From: RoadsteRob@aol.com To: 9laser3@bright.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 16:56:14 EST Subject: Re: Fiberglass fenders for Datsun roadsters. Hi Paul Rock Vest used JAP-CO fenders - look great and perform. Rock's phone number (daytime at RV Performance) is (336) 945-9944. Thanks to Bill Wessel for that info. Rob From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 30 14:57:53 2000 From: "Hall, Phillip" To: "'Paul'" <9laser3@bright.net> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 16:00:49 -0600 Subject: RE: Fiberglass fenders for Datsun roadsters. Hey Paul - let us know what you find out - price, quality, etc. Could these fenders be used on the street? Mine are getting pretty rusty! Phil -----Original Message----- From: Paul [SMTP:9laser3@bright.net] Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 3:37 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net; Vintage Race Subject: Fiberglass fenders for Datsun roadsters. Team Sloan is in the market for new fiberglass fenders for both Datsun 1600s. They are both SCCA G Production cars. Has any one out there used JAP-CO or Performance Fiberglass fenders? Any other companies we should be looking at? Something on the East coast or at least closer to Ohio would help save some freight money. TIA, Paul OROC -----Original Message----- From: sidney raper To: KWS711@aol.com ; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Monday, October 30, 2000 8:37 AM Subject: Re: Shasta 2001 Dates? >Kim, > >Try Performance Fiberglass. Here is a link to the Roadster products that >they have: > >http://www.performancefiberglass.com/roadster.htm > >Another company is Japco. Here is their web site: > >http://www.piner.com/japco/ > >I have not seen nor used these products, I have just seen them on the web. > >Sid > > >>From: KWS711@aol.com >>Reply-To: KWS711@aol.com >>To: giraffehauler@yahoo.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >>Subject: Re: Shasta 2001 Dates? >>Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 00:12:03 EST >> >>It's always the first weekend after the 4th of July. >> >>Does anybody have a line on fibreglass parts; hood, trunk, etc.? >> >>Kim >>68 2000 CSP >>NOWROC > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 30 15:15:08 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: Phillip.Hall@msfc.nasa.gov Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 14:14:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Fiberglass fenders for Datsun roadsters. Yea me too me too, I like how the Jap-co fenders look-what you can see of them from the website. They appear to follow the lines of the original nicely-not like the 'box flares' that to me looked tacked on. Another good thing about wider fenders should dramatically increase the avaiable wheels that would work. If you have rusty fenders this might be worth it alone. To have a 'normal' selection of wheels..... Daniel 69 2000 SF CA > Hey Paul - let us know what you find out - price, quality, etc. Could these > fenders be used on the street? Mine are getting pretty rusty! > > Phil > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul [SMTP:9laser3@bright.net] > Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 3:37 PM > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net; Vintage Race > Subject: Fiberglass fenders for Datsun roadsters. > > Team Sloan is in the market for new fiberglass fenders for both > Datsun > 1600s. They are both SCCA G Production cars. Has any one out there > used > JAP-CO or Performance Fiberglass fenders? Any other companies we > should be > looking at? Something on the East coast or at least closer to Ohio > would > help save some freight money. > > TIA, > > Paul > OROC > -----Original Message----- > From: sidney raper > To: KWS711@aol.com ; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > Date: Monday, October 30, 2000 8:37 AM > Subject: Re: Shasta 2001 Dates? > > > >Kim, > > > >Try Performance Fiberglass. Here is a link to the Roadster > products that > >they have: > > > >http://www.performancefiberglass.com/roadster.htm > > > >Another company is Japco. Here is their web site: > > > >http://www.piner.com/japco/ > > > >I have not seen nor used these products, I have just seen them on > the web. > > > >Sid > > > > > >>From: KWS711@aol.com > >>Reply-To: KWS711@aol.com > >>To: giraffehauler@yahoo.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > >>Subject: Re: Shasta 2001 Dates? > >>Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 00:12:03 EST > >> > >>It's always the first weekend after the 4th of July. > >> > >>Does anybody have a line on fibreglass parts; hood, trunk, etc.? > >> > >>Kim > >>68 2000 CSP > >>NOWROC > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 30 15:27:11 2000 From: "Mike Faggart" To: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net>, , Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 17:26:36 -0500 Subject: Re: Fiberglass fenders for Datsun roadsters. Paul, I just tried reaching JAP CO on the phone, left a message for Rick to call me back, the place is only 30 miles from my house. I will check it out as soon as feasible. thx mike Mike Faggart SEROC, NOROC still 68 2L \ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: ; "Vintage Race" Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 4:36 PM Subject: Fiberglass fenders for Datsun roadsters. > Team Sloan is in the market for new fiberglass fenders for both Datsun > 1600s. They are both SCCA G Production cars. Has any one out there used > JAP-CO or Performance Fiberglass fenders? Any other companies we should be > looking at? Something on the East coast or at least closer to Ohio would > help save some freight money. > > TIA, > > Paul > OROC > -----Original Message----- > From: sidney raper > To: KWS711@aol.com ; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > Date: Monday, October 30, 2000 8:37 AM > Subject: Re: Shasta 2001 Dates? > > > >Kim, > > > >Try Performance Fiberglass. Here is a link to the Roadster products that > >they have: > > > >http://www.performancefiberglass.com/roadster.htm > > > >Another company is Japco. Here is their web site: > > > >http://www.piner.com/japco/ > > > >I have not seen nor used these products, I have just seen them on the web. > > > >Sid > > > > > >>From: KWS711@aol.com > >>Reply-To: KWS711@aol.com > >>To: giraffehauler@yahoo.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > >>Subject: Re: Shasta 2001 Dates? > >>Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 00:12:03 EST > >> > >>It's always the first weekend after the 4th of July. > >> > >>Does anybody have a line on fibreglass parts; hood, trunk, etc.? > >> > >>Kim > >>68 2000 CSP > >>NOWROC > > > >_____________________________________________________________________ ____ > > > > > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 30 16:00:04 2000 From: Geegc@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, Ahorwitz55@aol.com, Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 17:59:21 EST Subject: Nethercutt Collection/Los Angeles It was a wonderful day at Doheney on Saturday, and I am amazed that the pictures were on the web before I got home! The JD Nethercutt Collection has just moved to a new location/space in Sylmar and has over 100 cars on display (probably no roadsters). I would like to arrange for a run/drive to the museum for a Saturday in December or January and am inquiring about dates, costs and tours with the museum. How does Saturday, December 9, 2000, or January 13 or 20, 2001 sound? Let me know if it conflicts with an important football, basketball or hockey game or other event. http://www.ktsmotorsportsgarage.com/nethercutt/pages/index.html Gary Cohen 1966 1600 1968 2000 solex From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 30 16:53:32 2000 From: Don Miller To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 15:52:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Fiberglass fenders for Datsun roadsters. I have the fronts and rear flares on the race car. I got hte ones from Japco and they were $55 ea at the time. Easy Istallation. Took me, some duct tape, a drill and rivet gun three hours. Now, remember this was for the race car, so I did not put a small recess area on the edge and inset the flares. So far they have taken some pretty good shots by pylons while autocrossing and have not broken. One front has a small crack where I took out a cone this past weekend (on a course I designed) when I was halfway through 4th gear (about 85). Make sure that you measure each flare through, the right front was about 1" longer along the rear edge and I had too cut it of before I mounted it to the car. Don Miller 69 Turbo V-6 Meridian, ID __________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 30 16:59:53 2000 From: Don Miller To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 15:58:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: pounds per horsepower I upped the power to weight. Let's see the car is 1895 lbs empty, 2145 with me in it. Now, the engine dynoed at 318 hp, that's 6.74 lb/hp. I can live with that and not have to lose too much weight. So should I lose 50 lbs or just up the boost 2 lbs (1 lb boost = 25 hp). Yup, time to turn the screw on the boost adjuster! No diets for me! Don Miller 69 Turbo V-6 Meridian, ID --- andycost@att.net wrote: > Let's put your theory to the test. We are going > autocrossing on the 12th of November. I'll lose 50 > lbs > and you gain 50 lbs. With a net of 100 lbs > difference > we should have a .74 pound per horsepower difference > > which comes to .4 seconds at the autocross. > > Andy > > BTW- My bike has 3 pounds per horsepower. I have > no > doubt that a roadster could beat it at an autocross > though. > > At the SCCA impounds following my runs they let me > weigh my roadster and it > > weighed 2050 pounds. Add my 250 and my roadster > is at 2300 pounds. I have > > the 135 horsepower engine, which gives me just > about 17 pounds per > > horsepower. A 150 horsepower Miata, at 2500 > pounds, is also 17 pounds per > > horsepower. I think that 1 pound per horsepower > also is one second, so if I > > can run the ratio down to 12 pounds per horsepower > I can beat Miatas by 5 > > seconds. I can: > > > > a) lose 80-100 pounds > > b) install a 200 HP engine > > c) lose 100-200 pounds from the Gray Ghost > > d) buy a 350 horse Camaro (3000 pounds, 9 > pounds/HP) and put Fairlady > > emblems on it. > > > > My son Andy used to beat me regularly at > autocrosses by 1/2 second until he > > got married. He gained a few pounds and now he > doesn't beat me regularly > > any more. I feed him every chance I get. > > > > Leisure Suit Terry > > __________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 30 17:05:35 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: turbospl311@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 16:04:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Fiberglass fenders for Datsun roadsters. Hello Don, So you just have the flares?? Not the complete fender that I beleive jap-co sells? Do you think that they are tuff enough for daily driver use?? Daniel 69 2000 SF CA > I have the fronts and rear flares on the race car. I > got hte ones from Japco and they were $55 ea at the > time. Easy Istallation. Took me, some duct tape, a > drill and rivet gun three hours. Now, remember this > was for the race car, so I did not put a small recess > area on the edge and inset the flares. So far they > have taken some pretty good shots by pylons while > autocrossing and have not broken. One front has a > small crack where I took out a cone this past weekend > (on a course I designed) when I was halfway through > 4th gear (about 85). > > Make sure that you measure each flare through, the > right front was about 1" longer along the rear edge > and I had too cut it of before I mounted it to the > car. > > Don Miller > 69 Turbo V-6 > Meridian, ID > > __________________________________________________ > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 30 17:56:37 2000 From: Geegc@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, Ahorwitz55@aol.com, Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 19:54:56 EST Subject: Better Site fir The Nethercutt Collection Click here: Classics.com - The Nethercutt Collection From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 30 19:27:04 2000 From: SRL311KA@aol.com To: motormite@hotmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 21:24:35 EST Subject: Re: Front Brake Housing. Does it need to be so heavy? Two thoughts come to mind. More mass will pull more heat out of the caliper. Less mass will tend to flex on hard stops. Sooooooo....... Bill Kenyon SRL311 KA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 30 19:31:39 2000 From: SRL311KA@aol.com To: SPL311RDST@aol.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 21:29:57 EST Subject: Re: HELP - calipers Have two complete front calipers that worked normally when removed for larger calipers. $150.00 Bill Kenyon SRL311 KA From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 30 21:07:16 2000 From: fred To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 23:07:52 -0500 Subject: digest ? I was wondering if anyone could tell me how to go from direct messages on this list to the DIGEST version. thanks FRED 1969 2000 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 30 21:13:46 2000 From: SGHT@aol.com To: 9laser3@bright.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 23:12:07 EST Subject: Re: Fiberglass fenders for Datsun roadsters. Paul, We purchased a "Vintage Race 1600" (Jim Fitzgerald car) this summer which has full flair fiberglass front fenders and a glass hood.(I believe they are Japco). Obviously, the car would not be accepted by SVRA so Barry Brown installed a stock hood and flared a pair of stock steel fenders, which I think look great, and they were acceptable to SVRA. They look nearly stock and are within the realm of flares of the era when these cars were run by Sharp and BRE. If you were at Watkins in Sept. you saw the car when Barry ran it. We are taking the fenders to Riggles next month to get costs for fiberglass and/or carbon fiber duplicates. Several people at the Glen, particularly some Canadians, expressed an interest. If there is interest, I am sure we could get a better price with some quantities. Sam Turner Sam SGHT@aol.com 25 Hill Creek Road, Rochester, NY 14625 716-387-0665 60 Walsh Street, Nantucket Island, MA 02554 508-228-3666 5060 Higel Avenue, Siesta Key, FL 34242 941-349-7863 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Mon Oct 30 21:54:55 2000 From: "Daniel D. Kelson" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 20:49:28 -0800 Subject: Does anybody know anything about this car...? Howdy Listfolk, As a humble non-owner, investigating and gleaning wisdom from the odd note on this list, I am curious if anyone knows much about the car in this ad: http://www.collectorcartraderonline.com/addetail.html?4204182 I have to say, after going to Doheny, that the '66 1600 I saw really stuck in my mind, and who would deny the beauty of seven chrome trimmed dials anyway? So, living in Long Beach, and commuting to Pasadena every day, I can go up to Lancaster on a weekend (or maybe this car has been sold already? I tried calling and didn't get an answer today...), but if anyone already knows something about this vehicle it would be great to learn a thing or two before I delve deeper... Thanks mucho, Dan Kelson From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 00:14:04 2000 From: "Andrew Murphy" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 17:50:57 PDT Subject: Doheny 2000 Pics Hello All1 The weather cooperated with us and by the afternoon, Surfside 2000 saw a beautiful day. There were plenty of great cars and surprises at the show. Roadster turnout was good although we did not have any roadsters from the BADROC crowd turn up although Van did make an appearance. I met several new people that are now going to part of the SoCalROC crew including Jeff Hurlburton who brought a 66 1600 that was just as nice as any you have ever seen. He won best roadster with it. A special note goes to Jon Frampton's 67.5 1600. He won a technical merit trophy directly from Nissan Motors Corp and was as proud as you can imagine. Plenty of Zs, dimes, and even a PL211 was there. It was absolutely great and we all had a great time. A special guest car was a Silvia Spec R directly from Japan. It was an absolutely gorgoeous car and we all just about cried because this car will never be sold in this country. It was brought over under exemption to use the Nissan Proving Track in Arizona. This car will get crushed later this year. A total shame as it is a fast and beautiful car. This car would kill any honda or Acura placed in its path. So check out the pics! http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=172261&a=9627858 Andrew Murphy SoCalROC From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 03:39:00 2000 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "fred" , Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 05:37:29 -0500 Subject: Digest signup instructions Digest Format: A digest version of this list is now available. This is basically all the day's mail bundled into a single message. To switch from the real time list to the digest list, send a message to: majordomo@autox.team.net with nothing in the body but unsubscribe datsun-roadsters subscribe datsun-roadsters-digest -----Original Message----- From: fred To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Monday, October 30, 2000 11:12 PM Subject: digest ? >I was wondering if anyone could tell me how to go from >direct messages on this list to the DIGEST version. > >thanks >FRED >1969 2000 > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 05:52:40 2000 From: "Ben Zech" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 12:52:14 GMT Subject: Distributor Points keep burning up Happy Halloween.......BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Any ideas on why a set of new points would burn up, causing backfire and failure to run. Another symptom is that the alternator keeps going from neutral position to 30+ as you are driving. Thanks BZ-RZ N.C. SPL/SRL "SEROC" motormite@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 06:27:07 2000 From: "Mike Faggart" To: , "Daniel D. Kelson" Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 08:26:39 -0500 Subject: Re: Does anybody know anything about this car...? Good Morning and Happy Halloween to All. I talked to Rick last night at JAP CO, located in High Point, NC. He stated that the fiberglass pieces are for race cars only. There are no attachments for any stock attachments at this time. Good news for the racers, Paul, are you there? Bad news for the cars that wanted stock glass. Mike Faggart SEROC, NOROC 68 2L ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel D. Kelson" To: Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 11:49 PM Subject: Does anybody know anything about this car...? > > Howdy Listfolk, > > As a humble non-owner, investigating and gleaning wisdom from > the odd note on this list, I am curious if anyone knows much about > the car in this ad: > > http://www.collectorcartraderonline.com/addetail.html?4204182 > > I have to say, after going to Doheny, that the '66 1600 I saw > really stuck in my mind, and who would deny the beauty of seven > chrome trimmed dials anyway? > > So, living in Long Beach, and commuting to Pasadena every day, > I can go up to Lancaster on a weekend (or maybe this car has been > sold already? I tried calling and didn't get an answer today...), > but if anyone already knows something about this vehicle it would > be great to learn a thing or two before I delve deeper... > > Thanks mucho, > Dan Kelson > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 06:38:58 2000 From: "Patrick J. Horne" To: "Ben Zech" Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 07:38:37 -0600 Subject: Re: Distributor Points keep burning up It is possible that the condenser is open, or the primary of the coil has some shorted turns, or the ballast esistor has been bypassed somehow. Good hunting! Peace, Pat -- - Support Habitat for Humanity, A "hand up", not a "hand out" - Pat Horne, Network Manager, Shop Supervisor, Future planner CS Dept, University of Texas, Austin, Tx. 78712 USA voice (512)471-9517, fax (512)471-8885 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 06:44:58 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: motormite@hotmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 08:44:37 EST Subject: Re: Distributor Points keep burning up Ben, It sounds like your regulator is giving up the ghost! (sorry, I could not resist that one!) I would replace the regulator and that should solve the problem. The last time that I checked, there is a solid state version available at the parts store. It just may take a while to get the parts clerk to believe that Datsun existed before the 240Z............. Sid >From: "Ben Zech" >Reply-To: "Ben Zech" >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Distributor Points keep burning up >Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 12:52:14 GMT > >Happy Halloween.......BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO > >Any ideas on why a set of new points would burn up, causing backfire and >failure to run. > >Another symptom is that the alternator keeps going from neutral position to >30+ as you are driving. > >Thanks > > >BZ-RZ N.C. SPL/SRL "SEROC" >motormite@hotmail.com > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 06:46:39 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: datsunroadsters@egroups.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 08:46:20 EST Subject: Re: [datsunroadsters] Re: Does anybody know anything about this car...? Mike et al. That may not be bad news. If they are "race only" they may be able to be converted by bonding in the supporting panels. The fenders should bolt right on as I cannot fathom how they would change the fronts' mounting without it looking like crap. Sid >From: "Mike Faggart" >Reply-To: datsunroadsters@egroups.com >To: , "Daniel D. Kelson" >CC: "east coast list" >Subject: [datsunroadsters] Re: Does anybody know anything about this >car...? >Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 08:26:39 -0500 > >Good Morning and Happy Halloween to All. I talked to Rick last night >at JAP CO, located in High Point, NC. He stated that the fiberglass >pieces are for race cars only. There are no attachments for any stock >attachments at this time. Good news for the racers, Paul, are you >there? Bad news for the cars that wanted stock glass. > >Mike Faggart >SEROC, NOROC >68 2L > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Daniel D. Kelson" >To: >Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 11:49 PM >Subject: Does anybody know anything about this car...? > > > > > > Howdy Listfolk, > > > > As a humble non-owner, investigating and gleaning wisdom from > > the odd note on this list, I am curious if anyone knows much about > > the car in this ad: > > > > http://www.collectorcartraderonline.com/addetail.html?4204182 > > > > I have to say, after going to Doheny, that the '66 1600 I saw > > really stuck in my mind, and who would deny the beauty of seven > > chrome trimmed dials anyway? > > > > So, living in Long Beach, and commuting to Pasadena every day, > > I can go up to Lancaster on a weekend (or maybe this car has been > > sold already? I tried calling and didn't get an answer today...), > > but if anyone already knows something about this vehicle it would > > be great to learn a thing or two before I delve deeper... > > > > Thanks mucho, > > Dan Kelson > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 08:14:37 2000 From: SPL311RDST@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:13:48 EST Subject: Parking Signs gone - thanks everyone ! Like it says up there... they're gone for now. When we get the next batch out I'll let everyone know. Thanks Again! Laurie :-) 70 SPL311 69 SRL311 Chandler, AZ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 08:32:50 2000 From: "Chris" To: "Datsun roadster list" Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 07:32:59 -0800 Subject: Re: Distributor Points keep burning up Money says you've changed the ceramic resistor between the coil and the points. As I understand it, the ignition system is NOT 12 volt. FAUX F50 SPL31129719 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Zech" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 4:52 AM Subject: Distributor Points keep burning up > Happy Halloween.......BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO > > Any ideas on why a set of new points would burn up, causing backfire and > failure to run. > > Another symptom is that the alternator keeps going from neutral position to > 30+ as you are driving. > > Thanks > > > BZ-RZ N.C. SPL/SRL "SEROC" > motormite@hotmail.com > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 09:02:12 2000 From: "Ryan, Richard" To: "'Datsun Roadsters'" Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 08:03:20 -0800 Subject: Race Report The Classic Sports Racing Group ran at Sears Point this weekend. Four Roadsters ran. I lost my entry list so I don't have their names. A father/son pair from Washington had 2 1600s. Lime green and red. Both ran well and finished well. There was a red 2 liter from the Bay Area that had a good weekend. Another red (with black numbers) 1600 was there from the Bay Area. It was driven by a lady named Laura or Lori (some days I have CRS). It rained on Saturday. She went out the in the first Sunday session and it was still wet. Entering Turn 8 at 25 mph she slid off, slid sideways up the hill and fell over. She hung upside down for about 10 minutes. No injuries or significant damage to the car. For those who are interested, We had 6 Vees. All ran well. For goofs, one other guy named Dick and I decided to start at the back of the pack. By T4 we had passed about 7 or 8 cars. After one of the hardest races I have had in years, Flash Racing Ltd. triumphed again. (The other Dick spun at T2 on the last lap.) I tried this before and I'll try it again. I have a bare 2 liter Roadster frame that I will give (for free) to any one who wants it. Contact me offline at RRYAN@FRK.COM Dick Ryan ex. 24022 (650)312-4022 Risk Management Dept. SM 2000/2 FAX (650)312-5830 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 09:36:21 2000 From: "Rose Latourell" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 16:35:41 GMT Subject: My 1970 Datsun 1600 Roadster "Pearl" Dear Datsun Roadster List, It is with sadness I must sell my 1970 Datsun 1600 Roadster. I have loved this car for over ten years affectionately naming her "Pearl". It is white with maroon interior and mag wheels. It has a black hard top and tonneau cover but no soft top. I recently replaced the shocks, waterpump, starter and clutch cylinders, the body is straight with not much rust and the interior needs work. I have kept all my receipts. I was hoping that the list would help me find a buyer for this car as I would like to see someone spend the time to restore it. If not, maybe you could point me in the direction I need to sell it? I was hoping to get $2500 as I have paid over that in improvements in the last six months. I just wish I had found this list before now!! I will take some pictures this weekend if anyone is interested. Even though this car is rough around the edges it is running good and I am hoping to find someone to take care of it and love it as I have. Please Help Pearl Find a Home! Rose Ventura, California _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 09:48:15 2000 From: "roadster" To: "fred" , Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 00:59:57 -0800 Subject: Re: digest ? Hi FRED, Send mail to with the following commands in the body of your email message: unsubscribe datsun-roadsters subscribe datsun-roadsters-digest Fred - So.SF ----- Original Message ----- From: "fred" To: Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 8:07 PM Subject: digest ? > I was wondering if anyone could tell me how to go from > direct messages on this list to the DIGEST version. > > thanks > FRED > 1969 2000 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 11:02:45 2000 From: Daniel Neuman To: spl310@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:02:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Distributor Points keep burning up I am going to agree with the regulator idea. It sounds like its intermitently going 'full on'. Lucky for you only have a 30 amp alt. Daniel 69 2000 > Ben, > > It sounds like your regulator is giving up the ghost! (sorry, I could not > resist that one!) I would replace the regulator and that should solve the > problem. The last time that I checked, there is a solid state version > available at the parts store. It just may take a while to get the parts > clerk to believe that Datsun existed before the 240Z............. > > Sid > > > >From: "Ben Zech" > >Reply-To: "Ben Zech" > >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > >Subject: Distributor Points keep burning up > >Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 12:52:14 GMT > > > >Happy Halloween.......BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO > > > >Any ideas on why a set of new points would burn up, causing backfire and > >failure to run. > > > >Another symptom is that the alternator keeps going from neutral position to > >30+ as you are driving. > > > >Thanks > > > > > >BZ-RZ N.C. SPL/SRL "SEROC" > >motormite@hotmail.com > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 11:12:21 2000 From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:51:21 -0800 Subject: Nissan company is alive (OT) Good news, latest press releases this week show that Nissan has stopped bleeding and is making the best profits in 10 years. They beat financial forecasts for their comeback. On top of that, they're boosting their car-making in the U.S. by building a new $1B plant in Mississippi or Alabama, to support rolling out 22 new models (only 10 will be sold in the US). So we should see a new Z soon (I hope)! The news put a smile on me, I've seen my stock in Nissan almost double in value (thanks for the tip, Les). Fred - So.SF From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 11:21:16 2000 From: "Gregg Robinson" To: "Daniel Neuman" , Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:24:31 -0800 Subject: RE: Distributor Points keep burning up The voltage going through the points has less to do than the current. The first thing that takes points usually is a bad condenser. The coil may be incorrect for the car. Make sure you are using a coil that requires a external resister AND the resistor is matched to it. That factory coil system is nice and in fact back in the good old days the 2000 coil was the hot setup for the 510s as it had a higher secondary voltage. With an external resistor wired the way Datsun did it you get full battery voltage to the coil while starting the engine. This gives a hotter spark, but the coil would fry if ran at that voltage all the time. Once the key is released from the start position, the power to the coil goes through the resistor. If I remember right the voltage drops to around 8 volts to the coil and it runs cooler during normal operation. Also make sure the points are clean when you put in a new pair. The rub strip needs lube on the distributor cam, but the points should be cleaned with some alcohol when you are done setting the gap/dwell. The erratic ammeter may very well be a regulator. But also check that all the ground connections are good. Tighten the mount of the regulator. Check the connections on the alt. And make sure the alt drive belt it tight enough. Gregg Robinson McMinnville, OR 70 1600 ex DP SCCA 2000 ex BS SCCA 510 (still crew on that one! Now GT-4) -----Original Message----- From: owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Daniel Neuman Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 10:02 AM To: spl310@hotmail.com Cc: motormite@hotmail.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: Distributor Points keep burning up I am going to agree with the regulator idea. It sounds like its intermitently going 'full on'. Lucky for you only have a 30 amp alt. Daniel 69 2000 > Ben, > > It sounds like your regulator is giving up the ghost! (sorry, I could not > resist that one!) I would replace the regulator and that should solve the > problem. The last time that I checked, there is a solid state version > available at the parts store. It just may take a while to get the parts > clerk to believe that Datsun existed before the 240Z............. > > Sid > > > >From: "Ben Zech" > >Reply-To: "Ben Zech" > >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > >Subject: Distributor Points keep burning up > >Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 12:52:14 GMT > > > >Happy Halloween.......BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO > > > >Any ideas on why a set of new points would burn up, causing backfire and > >failure to run. > > > >Another symptom is that the alternator keeps going from neutral position to > >30+ as you are driving. > > > >Thanks > > > > > >BZ-RZ N.C. SPL/SRL "SEROC" > >motormite@hotmail.com > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 11:29:44 2000 From: Tomet9@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 13:27:13 EST Subject: insurance Hi list, There has been some talk in the past about insurance coverage. Now that roadsters are reaching collectible status and parts being so hard to get, many of us may find ourselves at a disadvantage when involved in a fender bender or major wreck. Most insurance only pay out the (fair market value) or (actual cash value)of the car. I'm still searching for that one co. that will insure a roadster at a fixed agreed mutual price. In the meantime I came across a co. affiliated with AAA of calif. They are called American Collectors Insurance. Most of us like to drive our cars rather than stare at them in our garage or drive way, so this isn't for everyone. It's probably not for me but for those who want to preserve theirs in mothballs heres the address. Toll free # 1(888) 360-2277 or WWW.aaa-calif.com Just for the hell of it I got a quote of $71 for full coverage, 1 year. Not a bad figure but here comes the criteria you have to meet. 1) must be garaged 2) driven less than 2500 mi ayear (ugh) THAT'S A KILLER 3) 10 years driving experience 4) have at least one "regular" vehicle for every licensed driver in household. Like I said it's not for every one but they also offer $0 deductible on stock (unmodified) cars. I'm still shopping meanwhile, Just thought I'd pass this on. 69/2.0 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 11:43:29 2000 From: "spencer" To: "Ben Zech" , Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:44:43 -0800 Subject: Re: Distributor Points keep burning up Hello Ben, Frankly, I don't see any connection between those problems except for the word "points". You have two problems with points. First: the points in the distributor are probably burning up because your condensor is failing. Replace 'em both and THAT problem will likely be gone. Be SURE to check all your connections as a loose or corroded one CAN cause the problem. Second, it sounds like the (current limiting) points in the regulator are sticking. In the old days, we'd pop the cover off the regulator and take a fine emery cloth to the points therein. There were usually three sets of points under that cover. Good luck and please let the list know what you do find. Thanks, Mark in Modesto ----- Original Message ----- From: Ben Zech To: Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 4:52 AM Subject: Distributor Points keep burning up > Happy Halloween.......BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO > > Any ideas on why a set of new points would burn up, causing backfire and > failure to run. > > Another symptom is that the alternator keeps going from neutral position to > 30+ as you are driving. > > Thanks > > > BZ-RZ N.C. SPL/SRL "SEROC" > motormite@hotmail.com > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 12:55:42 2000 From: SPL311RDST@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 14:54:23 EST Subject: Re:pts burning up - ballast resis. Several replies mention the ballast resistor - this is proabably *NOT* the cause of these problems. THe ign sys only need 7.5v to operate, and a full 12v only when starting. THis is what the resistor is for - letting full pwr through when cranking. The most typical symptom of it's failure is the car starts fine, but then fails to run as soon as you let off the key.. External symptoms: A lot of the time it will crumble away, or show signs of extreme overheat.(charred spots/melted wire.connections) THe other ideas: consensor, etc sound more like the culprit in this case. Laurie :-) 70 SPL311 69 SRL311 Chandler, AZ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 13:33:00 2000 From: "The Belgian Roadster" To: , Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 21:32:27 +0100 Subject: Re: Nissan company is alive (OT) Hi All, Nissan Europe confirmed the production of a new Z- Vin code Z33 In Europe the car will only be available by special order. Starting mid 2001 Regards, Chris -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: An: Gesendet: Dienstag, 31. Oktober 2000 18:51 Betreff: Nissan company is alive (OT) > Good news, latest press releases this week show that Nissan has stopped > bleeding and is making the best profits in 10 years. They beat financial > forecasts for their comeback. On top of that, they're boosting their > car-making in the U.S. by building a new $1B plant in Mississippi or > Alabama, to support rolling out 22 new models (only 10 will be sold in the > US). So we should see a new Z soon (I hope)! The news put a smile on me, > I've seen my stock in Nissan almost double in value (thanks for the tip, > Les). > > Fred - So.SF > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 13:40:49 2000 From: Roman Rist To: datsun roadsters Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 12:40:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Distributor Points keep burning up I agree with the voltage regulator theory. A couple of months back, my 66 went completley wierd!!!!! I on a hunch took the regulator out of my 70, tried it, cured all!!! Went to pep boys, they had one with pretty cad plating and everything. I'm sure the vendors have them also. I tried pep boys first on the hopes I could get one that day. My car had the same symptoms as yours, with exception of the points burning up. didn't run it that long. Roman __________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 14:35:22 2000 From: Mark Dent To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 16:31:02 -0500 Subject: Club Pages This is mostly for the people who run clubs I have MADROC listed on the Hemmings Motor News site. It was free to do. I get at least a call a week from someone who had no idea there were other Roadsters in his/her area. That is just with a listing. I am going to add a page. I highly recommend it. Mark Baltimore 1968 1600 1967 2000 http://www.datsunroadsters.com http://www.roadster.org From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 14:35:55 2000 From: Mark Dent To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 16:31:52 -0500 Subject: Looking for 67 2000 #45 All, I have someone looking for his old 67 2000. Car #45. Anyone have it? Mark Baltimore 1968 1600 1967 2000 http://www.datsunroadsters.com http://www.roadster.org From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 14:36:45 2000 From: "Ryan, Richard" To: "'Tomet9@aol.com'" , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 13:38:13 -0800 Subject: RE: insurance Its the insurance guy again. "...$71 for full coverage..." NO IT AIN'T This does not seem to include liability coverage. This is the one that could cause to loose your home and every thing you own if you kill a bunch of people. Just trying to help. Dick Ryan ex. 24022 (650)312-4022 Risk Management Dept. SM 2000/2 FAX (650)312-5830 -----Original Message----- From: Tomet9@aol.com [mailto:Tomet9@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 10:27 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Cc: Tomet9@aol.com Subject: insurance Hi list, There has been some talk in the past about insurance coverage. Now that roadsters are reaching collectible status and parts being so hard to get, many of us may find ourselves at a disadvantage when involved in a fender bender or major wreck. Most insurance only pay out the (fair market value) or (actual cash value)of the car. I'm still searching for that one co. that will insure a roadster at a fixed agreed mutual price. In the meantime I came across a co. affiliated with AAA of calif. They are called American Collectors Insurance. Most of us like to drive our cars rather than stare at them in our garage or drive way, so this isn't for everyone. It's probably not for me but for those who want to preserve theirs in mothballs heres the address. Toll free # 1(888) 360-2277 or WWW.aaa-calif.com Just for the hell of it I got a quote of $71 for full coverage, 1 year. Not a bad figure but here comes the criteria you have to meet. 1) must be garaged 2) driven less than 2500 mi ayear (ugh) THAT'S A KILLER 3) 10 years driving experience 4) have at least one "regular" vehicle for every licensed driver in household. Like I said it's not for every one but they also offer $0 deductible on stock (unmodified) cars. I'm still shopping meanwhile, Just thought I'd pass this on. 69/2.0 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 14:41:03 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "sidney raper" , , Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 16:34:58 -0500 Subject: Re: Distributor Points keep burning up FWIW, early 240s and 510s used the same regulator. At least they fit my car! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: sidney raper To: ; Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 8:44 AM Subject: Re: Distributor Points keep burning up > Ben, > > It sounds like your regulator is giving up the ghost! (sorry, I could not > resist that one!) I would replace the regulator and that should solve the > problem. The last time that I checked, there is a solid state version > available at the parts store. It just may take a while to get the parts > clerk to believe that Datsun existed before the 240Z............. > > Sid > > > >From: "Ben Zech" > >Reply-To: "Ben Zech" > >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > >Subject: Distributor Points keep burning up > >Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 12:52:14 GMT > > > >Happy Halloween.......BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO > > > >Any ideas on why a set of new points would burn up, causing backfire and > >failure to run. > > > >Another symptom is that the alternator keeps going from neutral position to > >30+ as you are driving. > > > >Thanks > > > > > >BZ-RZ N.C. SPL/SRL "SEROC" > >motormite@hotmail.com > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 14:52:06 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Ben Zech" , Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 16:46:20 -0500 Subject: Re: Distributor Points keep burning up It also could be that the bearing in the distributor is shot. It happened to me on an identical distributor in my Honda Civic. Points kept burning but check the reg first. Sounds like the points in it are occasionally sticking. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Ben Zech To: Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 7:52 AM Subject: Distributor Points keep burning up > Happy Halloween.......BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO > > Any ideas on why a set of new points would burn up, causing backfire and > failure to run. > > Another symptom is that the alternator keeps going from neutral position to > 30+ as you are driving. > > Thanks > > > BZ-RZ N.C. SPL/SRL "SEROC" > motormite@hotmail.com > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 14:56:06 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: , Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 16:50:29 -0500 Subject: Re: insurance I've had American Collectors for 10 years now. I pay $107 per year with no deductibles!!! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 1:27 PM Subject: insurance > Hi list, > > There has been some talk in the past about insurance coverage. Now that > roadsters are reaching collectible status and parts being so hard to get, > many of us may find ourselves at a disadvantage when involved in a fender > bender or major wreck. Most insurance only pay out the (fair market value) or > (actual cash value)of the car. I'm still searching for that one co. that will > insure a roadster at a fixed agreed mutual price. In the meantime I came > across a co. affiliated with AAA of calif. They are called American > Collectors Insurance. > Most of us like to drive our cars rather than stare at them in our > garage or drive way, so this isn't for everyone. It's probably not for me but > for those who want to preserve theirs in mothballs heres the address. > Toll free # 1(888) 360-2277 or WWW.aaa-calif.com > Just for the hell of it I got a quote of $71 for full coverage, 1 > year. Not a bad figure but here comes the criteria you have to meet. > 1) must be garaged > 2) driven less than 2500 mi ayear (ugh) THAT'S A KILLER > 3) 10 years driving experience > 4) have at least one "regular" vehicle for every licensed driver in > household. > Like I said it's not for every one but they also offer $0 deductible > on stock (unmodified) cars. > I'm still shopping meanwhile, Just thought I'd pass this on. > > 69/2.0 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 15:00:35 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: , Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 16:54:50 -0500 Subject: Re: Re:pts burning up - ballast resis. Laurie, I do believe you are wrong on this one. The ballast resistor is used to cut down the voltage when the resistor gets heated up. It reduces the voltage so the points don't burn, hence electronic ignitions don't use resistors. On start up the resistor is bypassed. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 2:54 PM Subject: Re:pts burning up - ballast resis. > Several replies mention the ballast resistor - this is proabably *NOT* the > cause of these problems. THe ign sys only need 7.5v to operate, and a full > 12v only when starting. THis is what the resistor is for - letting full pwr > through when cranking. > > The most typical symptom of it's failure is the car starts fine, but then > fails to run as soon as you let off the key.. External symptoms: A lot of the > time it will crumble away, or show signs of extreme overheat.(charred > spots/melted wire.connections) > > THe other ideas: consensor, etc sound more like the culprit in this case. > > Laurie :-) > 70 SPL311 > 69 SRL311 > Chandler, AZ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 15:22:28 2000 From: "Laury, Victor" To: "'datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net'" Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 14:20:46 -0800 Subject: O/T Race Datsun F/S I Always get excited when I see a 210 with a race history for sale. In 79 -81, I had the pleasure of seeing the Electromotive squad in action at Road Atlanta and other tracks around the South. Although your opinion may differ, I fell for the racing 210 and 200SX and I look for them now. I found this one for sale. I don't think it Devendorff's car, but It's touted as National Champion winner in "76". Any one have any history to share? http://www.angelfire.com/de2/erber4/ Victor 70 SRL 31113136 Los Angeles http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=123073 SoCalROC http://www.ameri-eagle.com/datsun/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 16:13:35 2000 From: "datsunmike" To: "Laury, Victor" , Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 18:07:45 -0500 Subject: Re: O/T Race Datsun F/S Vic, Go for it!!!!! Make a nice slalom car and great to terrorize the neighbors with!!!!! mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Laury, Victor To: Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 5:20 PM Subject: O/T Race Datsun F/S > I Always get excited when I see a 210 with a race history for sale. In 79 > -81, I had the pleasure of seeing the Electromotive squad in action at Road > Atlanta and other tracks around the South. Although your opinion may differ, > I fell for the racing 210 and 200SX and I look for them now. > > I found this one for sale. I don't think it Devendorff's car, but It's > touted as National Champion winner in "76". Any one have any history to > share? > > http://www.angelfire.com/de2/erber4/ > > Victor > 70 SRL 31113136 > Los Angeles > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=123073 > SoCalROC http://www.ameri-eagle.com/datsun/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 16:16:45 2000 From: Geegc@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, Ahorwitz55@aol.com, Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 18:16:05 EST Subject: Nethercutt Trip Los Angeles January 20th I have reserved a spot for 20 Datsun Roadster owners and friends for a 2 hour guided tour through the new Nethercutt Museum in Sylmar for Saturday January 20th starting at 1:30pm. The plan would be for the group to meet somewhere in the Valley, follow Victor while he speeds through the canyons, have lunch and meet at the museum for the tour (its free). There is also a 101 car museum across the street that is self guided, also free, and secure parking and an auditorium for a meeting (as if we ever had such a thing!). (While we meet, I suggest we draw straws for someone to leave their Roadster at the musuem for the permenant collection.) Let me know if you can attend as I promised I would give the museum a better estimate of the size of our group. Gary Cohen 1966 1600 1968 2000 solex and a plastic Japanese scale model From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 16:21:28 2000 From: "Ben Zech" To: motormite@hotmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 23:21:08 GMT Subject: Re: Distributor Points keep burning up Thanks for all the replies. I will let everyone know the outcome. Thanks again..... BZ-RZ N.C. SPL/SRL "SEROC" >motormite@hotmail.com >From: "Ben Zech" >Reply-To: "Ben Zech" >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Distributor Points keep burning up >Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 12:52:14 GMT > >Happy Halloween.......BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO > >Any ideas on why a set of new points would burn up, causing backfire and >failure to run. > >Another symptom is that the alternator keeps going from neutral position to >30+ as you are driving. > >Thanks > > >> > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > BZ-RZ N.C. SPL/SRL "SEROC" motormite@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 16:22:33 2000 From: RoadsteRob@aol.com To: LauryV@MTA.NET, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 18:22:04 EST Subject: Re: O/T Race Datsun F/S Hi Victor This 210 was run by a guy called Damon Pleasent who did indeed win the National Runoffs (CS) in '76. He beat Dick Davenport in another B210 by just 1/2 a second in one of the wettest CSPRRC's of them all. Davenport was on pole and Pleasant, who must have been a wet weather king, came from 15th on the grid to win! I have some other info somewhere if you're interested. Rob The Classic Fairlady Roadster Register From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 17:14:00 2000 From: "Dave Stoll" To: "datsunmike" , , Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 19:06:04 -0800 Subject: Re: insurance How much are you allowed to drive the car? The PO of my roadster had collector's ins. but could only drive 2500 miles/year. Do they let you do everyday driving? dave stoll 70 1600 -- ----- Original Message ----- From: datsunmike To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 1:50 PM Subject: Re: insurance > I've had American Collectors for 10 years now. I pay $107 per year with no > deductibles!!! > > Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 1:27 PM > Subject: insurance > > > > Hi list, > > > > There has been some talk in the past about insurance coverage. Now > that > > roadsters are reaching collectible status and parts being so hard to get, > > many of us may find ourselves at a disadvantage when involved in a fender > > bender or major wreck. Most insurance only pay out the (fair market value) > or > > (actual cash value)of the car. I'm still searching for that one co. that > will > > insure a roadster at a fixed agreed mutual price. In the meantime I came > > across a co. affiliated with AAA of calif. They are called American > > Collectors Insurance. > > Most of us like to drive our cars rather than stare at them in our > > garage or drive way, so this isn't for everyone. It's probably not for me > but > > for those who want to preserve theirs in mothballs heres the address. > > Toll free # 1(888) 360-2277 or WWW.aaa-calif.com > > Just for the hell of it I got a quote of $71 for full coverage, 1 > > year. Not a bad figure but here comes the criteria you have to meet. > > 1) must be garaged > > 2) driven less than 2500 mi ayear (ugh) THAT'S A KILLER > > 3) 10 years driving experience > > 4) have at least one "regular" vehicle for every licensed driver > in > > household. > > Like I said it's not for every one but they also offer $0 > deductible > > on stock (unmodified) cars. > > I'm still shopping meanwhile, Just thought I'd pass this on. > > > > 69/2.0 > > From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 17:51:05 2000 From: Mike Poorboy To: "Ryan, Richard" Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 16:53:46 -0800 Subject: Re: Race Report Dick, The two guys from Washington were the Chandlers their cars are on my photopoint site. They are really nice guys! http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=964436 They are under Seattle Fall Finale Mike Nowroc "Ryan, Richard" wrote: > The Classic Sports Racing Group ran at Sears Point this weekend. Four > Roadsters ran. I lost my entry list so I don't have their names. A > father/son pair from Washington had 2 1600s. Lime green and red. Both ran > well and finished well. > > There was a red 2 liter from the Bay Area that had a good weekend. > > Another red (with black numbers) 1600 was there from the Bay Area. It was > driven by a lady named Laura or Lori (some days I have CRS). It rained on > Saturday. She went out the in the first Sunday session and it was still > wet. Entering Turn 8 at 25 mph she slid off, slid sideways up the hill and > fell over. She hung upside down for about 10 minutes. No injuries or > significant damage to the car. > > For those who are interested, We had 6 Vees. All ran well. For goofs, one > other guy named Dick and I decided to start at the back of the pack. By T4 > we had passed about 7 or 8 cars. After one of the hardest races I have had > in years, Flash Racing Ltd. triumphed again. (The other Dick spun at T2 on > the last lap.) > > I tried this before and I'll try it again. I have a bare 2 liter Roadster > frame that I will give (for free) to any one who wants it. Contact me > offline at RRYAN@FRK.COM > > Dick Ryan ex. 24022 > (650)312-4022 > Risk Management Dept. > SM 2000/2 > FAX (650)312-5830 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 19:10:29 2000 From: "Patrick J. Horne" To: SPL311RDST@aol.com Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 20:09:56 -0600 Subject: Re:pts burning up - ballast resis. Laurie, Your symptom of the engine dying as soon as the key is released is what happens when the ballast resistor is open. It is possible to have the resistor short out some of its turns, allowing more current to flow through the coil and points. Granted, an open ballast is more common than a shorted one, but it is possible. Peace, Pat > Several replies mention the ballast resistor - this is proabably *NOT* the > cause of these problems. THe ign sys only need 7.5v to operate, and a full > 12v only when starting. THis is what the resistor is for - letting full pwr > through when cranking. > > The most typical symptom of it's failure is the car starts fine, but then > fails to run as soon as you let off the key.. External symptoms: A lot of the > time it will crumble away, or show signs of extreme overheat.(charred > spots/melted wire.connections) > > THe other ideas: consensor, etc sound more like the culprit in this case. > > Laurie :-) > 70 SPL311 > 69 SRL311 > Chandler, AZ -- - Support Habitat for Humanity, A "hand up", not a "hand out" - Pat Horne, Network Manager, Shop Supervisor, Future planner CS Dept, University of Texas, Austin, Tx. 78712 USA voice (512)471-9517, fax (512)471-8885 From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 19:14:41 2000 From: "Les/Dennis@CDM" To: "'Zcar List'" , Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 18:03:19 -0800 Subject: Surfside Datsun Show Winners The rain held off and we have a pretty nice day but the turnout was down about 30% from last year. I have posted pictures of the trophy winning cars on our website....just follow the Surfside 2000 button. Dennis Les Cannaday Dennis Currington Classic Datsun Motorsports 345 Olive Ave Vista, CA 92083 (760) 940-6365 http://www.classicdatsun.com From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 19:28:08 2000 From: SRL311guy@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 21:27:43 EST Subject: Re: O/T Race Datsun F/S In a message dated 10/31/00 3:23:59 PM Pacific Standard Time, RoadsteRob@aol.com writes: << This 210 was run by a guy called Damon Pleasent who did indeed win the National Runoffs (CS) in '76. He beat Dick Davenport in another B210 by just 1/2 a second in one of the wettest CSPRRC's of them all. Davenport was on pole and Pleasant, who must have been a wet weather king, came from 15th on the grid to win! I have some other info somewhere if you're interested. >> Well, Rob never fails to impress does he? Craig Carter Fountain Valley, CA 1970 SRL311 #14100 "DAT2000" 1968 Datsun Roadster DP racecars From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 20:09:19 2000 From: Geegc@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 22:08:44 EST Subject: John Frampton where are you/OT John -- if you get this can you e-mail me with the name of the switch on your dashboard that we discussed at Doheney. I called the place in Pasadena and they don't have a clue what it is, and before I go out there I would like to know what it is called, brand, etc. Thanks Gary Cohen From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 20:16:11 2000 From: "sidney raper" To: datsunroadsters@egroups.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 22:15:30 EST Subject: Does anyone need one seat Hello, Does anyone need one seat for a 65 - early 67 Roadster? I have one languishing in my garage that I want to get rid of (they take up too much space) If anyone is interested, please reply off list. Thanks, Sid _________________________________________________________________________ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 20:23:24 2000 From: Mike Harper To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 19:23:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: My 1970 Datsun 1600 Roadster "Pearl" --- Rose Latourell wrote: > Dear Datsun Roadster List, > > It is with sadness I must sell my 1970 Datsun 1600 > Roadster. I have loved > this car for over ten years affectionately naming > her "Pearl". It is white > with maroon interior and mag wheels. It has a black > hard top and tonneau > cover but no soft top. I recently replaced the > shocks, waterpump, starter > and clutch cylinders, the body is straight with not > much rust and the > interior needs work. I have kept all my receipts. > > I was hoping that the list would help me find a > buyer for this car as I > would like to see someone spend the time to restore > it. If not, maybe you > could point me in the direction I need to sell it? I > was hoping to get $2500 > as I have paid over that in improvements in the last > six months. I just wish > I had found this list before now!! I will take some > pictures this weekend if > anyone is interested. Even though this car is rough > around the edges it is > running good and I am hoping to find someone to take > care of it and love it > as I have. > > Please Help Pearl Find a Home! > > Rose > Ventura, California > _________________________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ >From homework help to love advice, Yahoo! Experts has your answer. http://experts.yahoo.com/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 20:34:01 2000 From: Mike Harper To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 19:32:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: 280 Z Alloy Wheels?? Hi gang! I'm still looking for some wider wheel options at local boneyards, and came across a set of 280 Z alloy wheels, still on the car, that look very good. My question is, do the center holes match, and do the center caps fit over the front hubs of the roadster? has anyone used these wheels? Also, I wonder about the lugs/studs. Anyone know about the stud length? Are the stock studs long enough, or will I need new ones. Of course I assume I'll need new ones if I want to use the 280 Z lug nuts...as I have a 66 SAE car. Nice to know this stuff B4 shelling out $150 for something I can't use... Mike Harper '66 1600 Charleston SC __________________________________________________ >From homework help to love advice, Yahoo! Experts has your answer. http://experts.yahoo.com/ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 22:11:06 2000 From: Geegc@aol.com To: ARTHUR@vistamediagroup.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 00:10:18 EST Subject: Re: Need a Roadster mechanic Try Solo Performance in N. Hollywood, 13330 Sherman Way 818 780-0378. They supposedly work on cars for Leno, and I took my leaky 2000 there for some minor work which they did not screw up. They have an old 1600 parked up front, has been there for a while when last I visited. For front end stuff I use Gary Haig, just down the block, but I think someone on the list was unhappy with him. Let us know how it works out. Gary Cohen From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 23:40:06 2000 From: SPL311RDST@aol.com To: datsunmike@nyc.rr.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 01:38:14 EST Subject: Re: ballast resis. more info In a message dated 10/31/00 3:01:53 PM US Mountain Standard Time, datsunmike@nyc.rr.com writes: > I do believe you are wrong on this one. I'm not & you're not completely wrong either. >The ballast resistor is used to cut > down the voltage when the resistor gets heated up. It reduces the voltage so > the points don't burn, The resistor gets heated up 'cause it is cutting down the voltage - you got the cause & effect mixed up here. And yes... it is reducing the 12v down to 7.5 so the points are OK. The full 12v is for starting only. Go make some toast - i'ts a big reisistor that gets really hot when you put 110v to it ! > hence electronic ignitions don't use resistors. I'ts not because they don't have points - it's because most are designed to utilize a full 12v. The typical GM HEI uses 12v. for example. Chrylser products started putting elect ign in their cars in '72 -they still used an external ballast resistor in their set-up as it had a lower voltage requirement, even though points were absent. > On start up the resistor is bypassed. YUP. Laurie :-) 70 SPL311 69 SRL311 Chandler, AZ From datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net Tue Oct 31 23:52:08 2000 From: "roadster" To: "Les/Dennis@CDM" , Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 22:07:56 -0800 Subject: Re: Surfside Datsun Show Winners Hi Les & Dennis, Sorry I couldn't make it for the show, I had to cancel out at the last minute. I know you're probably busy at this time, but can you hold onto the show materials for me? I want to put together an order for a few items, and hopefully you can ship the show stuff with the package. If you're out of shirts, that's okay but I really like the show dash plaques. Thanks, Fred Katz P.S. I have a new email ID roadster@rcn.com but the old ones still work - fredkatz@2xtreme.net and katman@2xtreme.net