Subject: Re: [Bmcu] British shop in Utah?

From: Mark J Bradakis <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 20:00:40 -0600

On 7/13/20 7:24 PM, Andrew Lundgren wrote:
> I've got an intermittent ignition problem that I can't seem to get my 
> head around.
>
> I took it to Bailey's in SLC. Turns they don't seem to have anyone 
> with LBC experience anymore. At least not anyone who was available to 
> work on my car... $300, plus my cost to rent a transport later and I'm 
> still having the same problem.
>
> Are there any other shops in Utah that have a mechanic with MGB 
> experience?

Yep, when Mike Bailey decided he'd had enough and retired, moving up to 
Klamath Falls that was pretty much the end of general British car 
specialty shops in Utah.  Bill Davis and his Rovers are still around, I 
think, haven't talked to him for a while, though I drive by the place on 
17th South on my way to and from my job at the Union Pacific Roper Yard.

There is certainly still a need for experienced LBC techs in the area.  
Almost makes me think renting a small shop somewhere and doing part time 
work on these might be worth my while.

mjb.

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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 08:37:07 -0600

Ron Jensen at the Import Auto Center in Provo rebuilt my TR6 transmission and did a great job.  I would recommend his work.  Previously the Morgan bothers worked on my car.   

His shop is also one block from the light rail so you can drop off your car and train back to SLC.   It worked out well.   

Best Regards,

Ralph Sawyer

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From: Bmcu <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Mark J Bradakis
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2020 8:01 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Bmcu] British shop in Utah?

> Are there any other shops in Utah that have a mechanic with MGB 

Yep, when Mike Bailey decided he'd had enough and retired, moving up to Klamath Falls that was pretty much the end of general British car specialty shops in Utah.  Bill Davis and his Rovers are still around, I think, haven't talked to him for a while, though I drive by the place on 17th South on my way to and from my job at the Union Pacific Roper Yard.

There is certainly still a need for experienced LBC techs in the area. Almost makes me think renting a small shop somewhere and doing part time work on these might be worth my while.

mjb.

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From: Andrew Lundgren <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 13:25:17 -0600

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Thank you all for your advice.  I live in American Fork.  (I should have
added that.)

Based on your recommendations and the distance I called Import Auto in
Provo. They are a few weeks out still, but if I don't manage to figure it
out before then, I am on the schedule now.

Thanks!
--
Andrew

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 12:26 PM Grant R. Clayton <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> Andrew,
>
>
>
> You (and others) are correct that Baileys is not the place to take your
> car since Mike Bailey=E2=80=99s retirement to Oregon a number of years ag=
o.  Since
> no one suggested to the group the garage I=E2=80=99ve used for the years =
since
> Bailey=E2=80=99s retirement, I thought I should give you the contact info=
rmation
> and if you follow up and have a good experience you can convey your
> experience to the group.  My current mechanic, for the past five years, a=
nd
> who I can wholeheartedly recommend, is:
>
> Butch Van Cleaf
>
> American Foreign Garage
>
> 6767 South 400 West
>
> Midvale, Utah
>
> (801) 261-8903
>
> [email-masked] (I=E2=80=99m unsure how often Butch checks this email)
>
> www.afgarage.com   (I=E2=80=99m also not sure if the website is still act=
ive)
>
>
>
> I live in east Sandy which makes Butch=E2=80=99s garage a convenient loca=
tion.
> Butch does not limit his shop to only classic British vehicles but every
> time I visit Butch=E2=80=99s shop I always enjoy seeing all of the classi=
c British
> vehicles which have been entrusted to him (similarly to Bailey=E2=80=99s =
shop when
> Mike was around). Butch is a vehicle enthusiast who (as far as I know) do=
es
> not own any classic British vehicles but he always has a car or truck in
> the shop which is his own and which he is customizing for performance
> and/or appearance.  I believe Josh has been Butch=E2=80=99s assistant for=
 several
> years.  If you contact Butch please say hello to him for me.
>
>
>
> Grant
>
>
>
> Grant R. Clayton
>
> Registered Patent Attorney
>
> Clayton Howarth, P.C.
>
> Adjunct Associate Professor of Mechanical Engineering
>
> University of Utah
>
> Telephone:  (801) 255-5335
>
> *AV Preeminent=C2=AE* *Peer Review Rated IP Attorney*
>
>
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>,
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>
>
>
> *From:* Bmcu [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf Of *Andrew
> Lundgren
> *Sent:* Monday, July 13, 2020 7:25 PM
> *To:* British Club <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* [Bmcu] British shop in Utah?
>
>
>
> I've got an intermittent ignition problem that I can't seem to get my hea=
d
> around.
>
>
>
> I took it to Bailey's in SLC. Turns they don't seem to have anyone with
> LBC experience anymore. At least not anyone who was available to work on =
my
> car... $300, plus my cost to rent a transport later and I'm still having
> the same problem.
>
>
>
> Are there any other shops in Utah that have a mechanic with MGB experienc=
e?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thank you all for your advice.=C2=A0 I live in American Fo=
rk.=C2=A0 (I should have added that.)<div><br></div><div>Based on your reco=
mmendations and the distance I called Import Auto in Provo. They are a few =
weeks out still, but if I don&#39;t manage to figure it out before then, I =
am on the schedule now.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!</div><div>--</div>=
<div>Andrew</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" clas=
s=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 12:26 PM Grant R. Clayton &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></=
div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bor=
der-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:black">Andrew,=C2=A0
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:black">You (and others) are correct that Baileys is not the =
place to take your car since Mike Bailey=E2=80=99s retirement to Oregon a n=
umber of years ago.=C2=A0 Since no one suggested
 to the group the garage I=E2=80=99ve used for the years since Bailey=E2=80=
=99s retirement, I thought I should give you the contact information and if=
 you follow up and have a good experience you can convey your experience to=
 the group.=C2=A0 My current mechanic, for the past five
 years, and who I can wholeheartedly recommend, is:<u></u><u></u></span></p=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:black">Butch Van Cleaf<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:black">American Foreign Garage<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:black">6767 South 400 West<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:black">Midvale, Utah<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:black">(801) 261-8903<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:black"><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank=
">[email-masked]</a> (I=E2=80=99m unsure how often Butch checks this ema=
il)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:black"><a href=3D"http://www.afgarage.com" target=3D"_blank"=
>www.afgarage.com</a>=C2=A0=C2=A0 (I=E2=80=99m also not sure if the website=
 is still active)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:black">I live in east Sandy which makes Butch=E2=80=99s gara=
ge a convenient location.=C2=A0 Butch does not limit his shop to only class=
ic British vehicles but every time I visit Butch=E2=80=99s
 shop I always enjoy seeing all of the classic British vehicles which have =
been entrusted to him (similarly to Bailey=E2=80=99s shop when Mike was aro=
und). Butch is a vehicle enthusiast who (as far as I know) does not own any=
 classic British vehicles but he always
 has a car or truck in the shop which is his own and which he is customizin=
g for performance and/or appearance.=C2=A0 I believe Josh has been Butch=E2=
=80=99s assistant for several years.=C2=A0 If you contact Butch please say =
hello to him for me.=C2=A0 =C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:black">Grant<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:black">Grant R. Clayton<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:black">Registered Patent Attorney<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:black">Clayton Howarth, P.C.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:black">Adjunct Associate Professor of Mechanical Engineering=
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:black">University of Utah
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:black">Telephone:=C2=A0 (801) 255-5335<u></u><u></u></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><b><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">AV Preeminent=
=C2=AE</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-ser=
if;color:rgb(31,73,125)">
<b>Peer Review Rated IP Attorney</b></span><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;fo=
nt-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:black"><img width=3D"372" height=3D"50" id=3D"gmail-m_-95152=
8426385526252Picture_x0020_1" src=3D"cid:1735914fa275b006a1" alt=3D"Clayton=
 Howarth Final Logo"></span><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;c=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><b><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">AV=C2=AE, AV P=
reeminent<sup>=C2=AE</sup></span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fam=
ily:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">,
<b>Martindale-Hubbell Distinguished<sup>SM</sup></b>, and <b>Martindale-Hub=
bell Notable<sup>SM</sup></b>, are certification marks used under license i=
n accordance with the
</span><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:b=
lack"><a href=3D"http://www.martindale.com/Products_and_Services/Peer_Revie=
w_Ratings.aspx" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:rgb(5,99,193)">Marti=
ndale-Hubble certification procedure</span></a></span><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">,
 standards, and policies.</span><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:C=
alibri,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri=
,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Cali=
bri,sans-serif"> Bmcu [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Lundgren<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 13, 2020 7:25 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> British Club &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Bmcu] British shop in Utah?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I&#39;ve got an intermittent ignition problem that I=
 can&#39;t seem to get my head around.<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I took it to Bailey&#39;s in SLC. Turns they don&#39=
;t seem to have anyone with LBC experience anymore. At least not anyone who=
 was available to work on my car... $300, plus my cost to rent a transport =
later and I&#39;m still having the same problem.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Are there any other shops in Utah that have a mechan=
ic with MGB experience?<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks!<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Andrew<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
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From: Mark J Bradakis <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 21:11:16 -0600

Good luck tracking it down.  Intermittent ignition problems can be quite 
frustrating.  I remember finding and fixing a problem when I was working 
at Bailey's, and it was quite by accident.  It was one of Dr. Hoopes 
cars, a Healey.  Ran fine 98% of the time, would sometimes sputter, 
miss, and stall out.  I was fussing with it, had it idling smoothly, and 
while fussing with the carbs the screwdriver in one of my hands touched 
the wire between the coil and distributor.  Instant stumble.  Yep, car 
ran fine, wiggle that wire and it would quit.  Fix was easy, just put 
together a new wire with good connectors on each end and no more problem.

mjb.

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From: Peter Gerity <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2020 11:57:08 -0600

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Mark,

Back in the 60's when I was running TR-4's and 4A's we used to carry a
small bundle of those little black and white "pigtail wires" wrapped
together and thrown into the glove box so you could just jump out and
connect a new one!!!! Only failed once in about 7 years of running TR-s
back then. However, I forgot about that ......and on my way back from the
VTR convention in Breckenridge, CO back a few years ago...my TR-3A just
quit running around Center Colorado. I stupidly spent hours on the side of
the road before it dawned on me that the connector on the end of that
stupid pigtail had failed. I just put a new connector on and a miracle
happened!!!! That was back in 2014 and the car made it all the way home to
New Mexico and still has my "fix" installed and has not failed again. Hope
that you are staying safe up there in the land of Zion.
Pete Gerity

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Mark,<div><br></div><div>Back in the 60&#39;s when I was r=
unning TR-4&#39;s and 4A&#39;s we used to carry a small bundle of those lit=
tle black and white &quot;pigtail wires&quot; wrapped together and thrown=
=C2=A0into the glove box so you could just jump out and connect a new one!!=
!! Only failed=C2=A0once in about 7 years of running TR-s back then. Howeve=
r, I forgot about that ......and on my way back from the VTR convention in =
Breckenridge, CO back a few years ago...my TR-3A just quit running around C=
enter Colorado. I stupidly spent hours on the side of the road before it da=
wned on me that the connector on the end of that stupid pigtail had failed.=
 I just put a new connector on and a miracle happened!!!! That was back in =
2014 and the car made it all the way home to New Mexico and still has my &q=
uot;fix&quot; installed and has not failed again. Hope that you are staying=
 safe up there=C2=A0in the land=C2=A0of Zion.</div><div>Pete Gerity</div></=
div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On=
 Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 9:11 PM Mark J Bradakis &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@br=
adakis.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border=
-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Good=
 luck tracking it down.=C2=A0 Intermittent ignition problems can be quite <=
br>
frustrating.=C2=A0 I remember finding and fixing a problem when I was worki=
ng <br>
at Bailey&#39;s, and it was quite by accident.=C2=A0 It was one of Dr. Hoop=
es <br>
cars, a Healey.=C2=A0 Ran fine 98% of the time, would sometimes sputter, <b=
r>
miss, and stall out.=C2=A0 I was fussing with it, had it idling smoothly, a=
nd <br>
while fussing with the carbs the screwdriver in one of my hands touched <br=
the wire between the coil and distributor.=C2=A0 Instant stumble.=C2=A0 Yep=
, car <br>
ran fine, wiggle that wire and it would quit.=C2=A0 Fix was easy, just put =
<br>
together a new wire with good connectors on each end and no more problem.<b=
r>
<br>
mjb.<br>
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