Subject: [Bmcu] FW: They aren't going to try to total my '78!

From: R J DAVIS <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 16:17:04 -0600

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Ooops... I replied only to Andrew and meant to send this to the Club as wel=
l.

From: [email-masked]
To: [email-masked]
Subject: RE: [Bmcu] They aren't going to try to total my '78!
Date: Thu=2C 13 Jun 2013 16:15:37 -0600

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Good news=2C Andrew.  Perhaps someone in the club who has done this convers=
ion can help you=2C rather than hauling it 1000 miles.

How about it=2C guys.  Anyone done this conversion or know who can do it lo=
cally?

Roger D

> Date: Thu=2C 13 Jun 2013 13:25:40 -0600
> From: [email-masked]
> To: [email-masked]=3B [email-masked]
> Subject: [Bmcu] They aren't going to try to total my '78!
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> Got the good news back.
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> The damage appraisal doesn't exceed the replacement cost.  Now I need to=
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> decide if I want to restore it and spend the ~$1000 on a new rear rubber=
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> bumper or spend the same $1000 on a chrome kit and direct the repair=20
> shop to convert it to a chrome bumper car...
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> I haven't come across a shop in UT that has done the chrome bumper=20
> conversion though.  I am considering hauling it back to Colorado (my=20
> home until 2 years ago) and have http://sportscarcraftsmen.com/ do the wo=
rk.
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> Either way=2C it will be on the road again!  CHEER!
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> --
> Andrew
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Good news=2C Andrew.&nbsp=3B Perhaps someone in the club w=
ho has done this conversion can help you=2C rather than hauling it 1000 mil=
es.<br><br>How about it=2C guys.&nbsp=3B Anyone done this conversion or kno=
w who can do it locally?<br><br>Roger D<br><br><div>&gt=3B Date: Thu=2C 13 =
Jun 2013 13:25:40 -0600<br>&gt=3B From: [email-masked]<br>&gt=3B To: bmcu=
@autox.team.net=3B [email-masked]<br>&gt=3B Subject: [Bmcu] They aren't=
 going to try to total my '78!<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B Got the good news back.=
<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B The damage appraisal doesn't exceed the replacement c=
ost.  Now I need to <br>&gt=3B decide if I want to restore it and spend the=
 ~$1000 on a new rear rubber <br>&gt=3B bumper or spend the same $1000 on a=
 chrome kit and direct the repair <br>&gt=3B shop to convert it to a chrome=
 bumper car...<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B I haven't come across a shop in UT that=
 has done the chrome bumper <br>&gt=3B conversion though.  I am considering=
 hauling it back to Colorado (my <br>&gt=3B home until 2 years ago) and hav=
e http://sportscarcraftsmen.com/ do the work.<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B Either w=
ay=2C it will be on the road again!  CHEER!<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B --<br>&gt=
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From: Andrew Lindeman <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:04:53 -0600

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Hopefully you don't have to haul the car out here to Colorado just for a
bumper.  However, I have never come across a finer shop than Sportscar
Craftsmen.  They are a fantastic shop and a great resource for hard to find
parts as well.

Andy L.

On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:17 PM, R J DAVIS <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Ooops... I replied only to Andrew and meant to send this to the Club as
> well.
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 16:15:37 -0600
>
> Good news, Andrew.  Perhaps someone in the club who has done this
> conversion can help you, rather than hauling it 1000 miles.
>
> How about it, guys.  Anyone done this conversion or know who can do it
> locally?
>
> Roger D
>
> > Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:25:40 -0600
> > From: [email-masked]
> > To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
> > The damage appraisal doesn't exceed the replacement cost. Now I need to
> > decide if I want to restore it and spend the ~$1000 on a new rear rubber
> > bumper or spend the same $1000 on a chrome kit and direct the repair
> > I haven't come across a shop in UT that has done the chrome bumper
> > conversion though. I am considering hauling it back to Colorado (my
> > home until 2 years ago) and have http://sportscarcraftsmen.com/ do the
> work.
> >
> > Either way, it will be on the road again! CHEER!
> >
> > --
> > Andrew
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hopefully you don&#39;t have to haul the car out here to C=
olorado just for a bumper. =A0However, I have never come across a finer sho=
p than Sportscar Craftsmen. =A0They are a fantastic shop and a great resour=
ce for hard to find parts as well.<div>
<br></div><div style>Andy L.</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:17 PM, R J DAVIS <span=
 dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ooops... I replied only to Andrew and meant to send t=
his to the Club as well.<br><br><div><hr>From: <a href=3D"mailto:rogerdavis=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br>To: <a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br>
Subject: RE: [Bmcu] They aren&#39;t going to try to total my &#39;78!<br>Da=
te: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 16:15:37 -0600<br><br>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Good news, Andrew.=A0 Perhaps someone in the club who has =
done this conversion can help you, rather than hauling it 1000 miles.<br><b=
r>How about it, guys.=A0 Anyone done this conversion or know who can do it =
locally?<br>
<br>Roger D<br><br><div>&gt; Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:25:40 -0600<br>&gt; =
From: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
t</a><br>&gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">=
[email-masked]</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank">[email-masked]</a><br>
&gt; Subject: [Bmcu] They aren&#39;t going to try to total my &#39;78!<div>=
<div class=3D"h5"><br>&gt; <br>&gt; Got the good news back.<br>&gt; <br>&gt=
; The damage appraisal doesn&#39;t exceed the replacement cost.  Now I need=
 to <br>
&gt; decide if I want to restore it and spend the ~$1000 on a new rear rubb=
er <br>&gt; bumper or spend the same $1000 on a chrome kit and direct the r=
epair <br>&gt; shop to convert it to a chrome bumper car...<br>&gt; <br>
&gt; I haven&#39;t come across a shop in UT that has done the chrome bumper=
 <br>&gt; conversion though.  I am considering hauling it back to Colorado =
(my <br>&gt; home until 2 years ago) and have <a href=3D"http://sportscarcr=
aftsmen.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://sportscarcraftsmen.com/</a> do the w=
ork.<br>
&gt; <br>&gt; Either way, it will be on the road again!  CHEER!<br>&gt; <br=
>&gt; --<br>&gt; Andrew<br>&gt; ___________________________________________=
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From: Barry Engstrum <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 03:20:06 -0600

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I would think that there are step by step instructions on the internet.  Th=
ere might be a You tube video on how to make the change.  It can't be that =
hard=2C you might need the attaching hardware and it could be just a bolt-u=
p.  I'm sure that you would get a lot of help from club members.  I can't h=
elp for 2 weeks.

BarryE  -  -  In Beijing China.
=20

Date: Thu=2C 13 Jun 2013 20:04:53 -0600
From: [email-masked]
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Bmcu] FW: They aren't going to try to total my '78!

Hopefully you don't have to haul the car out here to Colorado just for a bu=
mper.  However=2C I have never come across a finer shop than Sportscar Craf=
tsmen.  They are a fantastic shop and a great resource for hard to find par=
ts as well.=20

Andy L.

On Thu=2C Jun 13=2C 2013 at 4:17 PM=2C R J DAVIS <[email-masked]> wro=
te:

Roger D

> Subject: [Bmcu] They aren't going to try to total my '78!=20

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> The damage appraisal doesn't exceed the replacement cost. Now I need to=20
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<body class=3D'hmmessage'><div dir=3D'ltr'>I would think that there are ste=
p by step instructions on the internet.&nbsp=3B There&nbsp=3Bmight be a You=
 tube video on how to make the change.&nbsp=3B It can't be that hard=2C you=
 might need the attaching&nbsp=3Bhardware and it could be just a bolt-up.&n=
bsp=3B I'm sure that&nbsp=3Byou would&nbsp=3Bget a lot of help from club me=
mbers.&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3BI can't help for 2 weeks.<BR>
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Date: Thu=2C 13 Jun 2013 20:04:53 -0600<BR>From: [email-masked]<=
BR>To: [email-masked]<BR>Subject: Re: [Bmcu] FW: They aren't going to =
try to total my '78!<BR><BR>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>Hopefully you don't have to haul the car out here to Colorad=
o just for a bumper. &nbsp=3BHowever=2C I have never come across a finer sh=
op than Sportscar Craftsmen. &nbsp=3BThey are a fantastic shop and a great =
resource for hard to find parts as well.=20
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Andy L.</DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=3Decxgmail_extra><BR><BR>
<DIV class=3Decxgmail_quote>On Thu=2C Jun 13=2C 2013 at 4:17 PM=2C R J DAVI=
S <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt=3B<A href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D_b=
lank>[email-masked]</A>&gt=3B</SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>Ooops... I replied only to Andrew and meant to send this to =
the Club as well.<BR><BR>
<DIV>
<HR>
From: <A href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D_blank>rogerdavis87@=
msn.com</A><BR>To: <A href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D_blank>lund=
[email-masked]</A><BR>Subject: RE: [Bmcu] They aren't going to try to total m=
y '78!<BR>Date: Thu=2C 13 Jun 2013 16:15:37 -0600<BR><BR>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>Good news=2C Andrew.&nbsp=3B Perhaps someone in the club who=
 has done this conversion can help you=2C rather than hauling it 1000 miles=
.<BR><BR>How about it=2C guys.&nbsp=3B Anyone done this conversion or know =
who can do it locally?<BR><BR>Roger D<BR><BR>
<DIV>&gt=3B Date: Thu=2C 13 Jun 2013 13:25:40 -0600<BR>&gt=3B From: <A href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D_blank>[email-masked]</A><BR>&gt=3B=
 To: <A href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D_blank>[email-masked]=
.net</A>=3B <A href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D_blank>mgs@autox=
.team.net</A><BR>&gt=3B Subject: [Bmcu] They aren't going to try to total m=
y '78!=20
<DIV>
<DIV class=3Dh5><BR>&gt=3B <BR>&gt=3B Got the good news back.<BR>&gt=3B <BR=
>&gt=3B The damage appraisal doesn't exceed the replacement cost. Now I nee=
d to <BR>&gt=3B decide if I want to restore it and spend the ~$1000 on a ne=
w rear rubber <BR>&gt=3B bumper or spend the same $1000 on a chrome kit and=
 direct the repair <BR>&gt=3B shop to convert it to a chrome bumper car...<=
BR>&gt=3B <BR>&gt=3B I haven't come across a shop in UT that has done the c=
hrome bumper <BR>&gt=3B conversion though. I am considering hauling it back=
 to Colorado (my <BR>&gt=3B home until 2 years ago) and have <A href=3D"htt=
p://sportscarcraftsmen.com/" target=3D_blank>http://sportscarcraftsmen.com/=
</A> do the work.<BR>&gt=3B <BR>&gt=3B Either way=2C it will be on the road=
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Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 20:07:39 -0600

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There are instructions out there, and a kit from moss.  It requires some 
welding and paint.  While I can weld, I haven't had much practice since 
my highschool shop classes...  I wouldn't want to take a torch to my B!  
And I have no experience with painting and body work.  I spoke with the 
shop in Colorado.  Most of the work has do be done on the front end of 
the car, the part of mine that isn't damaged...  All of the work goes 
for about $2500, and then comes any needed body work and paint...

As there is paint work required at both ends, if I don't do the whole 
car, there will be blend marks.  I am a bit bummed about that.  Painting 
the entire car right runs in the 11,000-18,000 range.

I am not looking for a concourse car though, and that much for me on a B 
is out of the question, so I have some $ choices to make. I might end up 
with a rubber bumper car at the end of this yet...

--
Andrew

On 6/14/2013 3:20 AM, Barry Engstrum wrote:
> I would think that there are step by step instructions on the 
> internet.  There might be a You tube video on how to make the change.  
> It can't be that hard, you might need the attaching hardware and it 
> could be just a bolt-up.  I'm sure that you would get a lot of help 
> from club members.  I can't help for 2 weeks.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:04:53 -0600
> Hopefully you don't have to haul the car out here to Colorado just for 
> a bumper.  However, I have never come across a finer shop than 
> Sportscar Craftsmen.  They are a fantastic shop and a great resource 
> for hard to find parts as well.
>
> Andy L.
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:17 PM, R J DAVIS <[email-masked] 
>
>     Ooops... I replied only to Andrew and meant to send this to the
>     Club as well.
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     How about it, guys.  Anyone done this conversion or know who can
>     do it locally?
>
>     Roger D
>
>     > home until 2 years ago) and have http://sportscarcraftsmen.com/
>     do the work.
>     >
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">There are instructions out there, and a
      kit from moss.&nbsp; It requires some welding and paint.&nbsp; While I can
      weld, I haven't had much practice since my highschool shop
      classes...&nbsp; I wouldn't want to take a torch to my B!&nbsp; And I have
      no experience with painting and body work.&nbsp; I spoke with the shop
      in Colorado.&nbsp; Most of the work has do be done on the front end of
      the car, the part of mine that isn't damaged...&nbsp; All of the work
      goes for about $2500, and then comes any needed body work and
      paint...&nbsp; <br>
      <br>
      As there is paint work required at both ends, if I don't do the
      whole car, there will be blend marks.&nbsp; I am a bit bummed about
      that.&nbsp; Painting the entire car right runs in the 11,000-18,000
      range.&nbsp; <br>
      <br>
      I am not looking for a concourse car though, and that much for me
      on a B is out of the question, so I have some $ choices to make.&nbsp;
      I might end up with a rubber bumper car at the end of this yet...<br>
      <br>
      --<br>
      Andrew<br>
      <br>
      On 6/14/2013 3:20 AM, Barry Engstrum wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">I would think that there are step by step
        instructions on the internet.&nbsp; There&nbsp;might be a You tube video
        on how to make the change.&nbsp; It can't be that hard, you might
        need the attaching&nbsp;hardware and it could be just a bolt-up.&nbsp; I'm
        sure that&nbsp;you would&nbsp;get a lot of help from club members.&nbsp;&nbsp;I
        can't help for 2 weeks.<br>
        BarryE&nbsp; -&nbsp; -&nbsp; In Beijing China.<br>
        &nbsp;<br>
        <div>
          <hr id="stopSpelling">
          Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:04:53 -0600<br>
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          To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>
          Subject: Re: [Bmcu] FW: They aren't going to try to total my
          '78!<br>
          <br>
          <div dir="ltr">Hopefully you don't have to haul the car out
            here to Colorado just for a bumper. &nbsp;However, I have never
            come across a finer shop than Sportscar Craftsmen. &nbsp;They are
            a fantastic shop and a great resource for hard to find parts
            as well.
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Andy L.</div>
          </div>
          <div class="ecxgmail_extra"><br>
            <br>
            <div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:17 PM,
              R J DAVIS <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span>
              wrote:<br>
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                <div>
                  <div dir="ltr">Ooops... I replied only to Andrew and
                    meant to send this to the Club as well.<br>
                    <br>
                    <div>
                      <hr>
                      From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                        target="_blank">[email-masked]</a><br>
                      To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank">[email-masked]</a><br>
                      Subject: RE: [Bmcu] They aren't going to try to
                      total my '78!<br>
                      Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 16:15:37 -0600<br>
                      <br>
                      <div dir="ltr">Good news, Andrew.&nbsp; Perhaps someone
                        in the club who has done this conversion can
                        help you, rather than hauling it 1000 miles.<br>
                        <br>
                        How about it, guys.&nbsp; Anyone done this conversion
                        or know who can do it locally?<br>
                        <br>
                        Roger D<br>
                        <br>
                        <div>&gt; Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:25:40 -0600<br>
                          &gt; From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                            target="_blank">[email-masked]</a><br>
                          &gt; To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                            target="_blank">[email-masked]</a>; <a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                            target="_blank">[email-masked]</a><br>
                          &gt; Subject: [Bmcu] They aren't going to try
                          to total my '78!
                          <div>
                            <div class="h5"><br>
                              &gt; <br>
                              &gt; Got the good news back.<br>
                              &gt; <br>
                              &gt; The damage appraisal doesn't exceed
                              the replacement cost. Now I need to <br>
                              &gt; decide if I want to restore it and
                              spend the ~$1000 on a new rear rubber <br>
                              &gt; bumper or spend the same $1000 on a
                              chrome kit and direct the repair <br>
                              &gt; shop to convert it to a chrome bumper
                              car...<br>
                              &gt; <br>
                              &gt; I haven't come across a shop in UT
                              that has done the chrome bumper <br>
                              &gt; conversion though. I am considering
                              hauling it back to Colorado (my <br>
                              &gt; home until 2 years ago) and have <a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://sportscarcraftsmen.com/"
                                target="_blank">http://sportscarcraftsmen.com/</a>
                              do the work.<br>
                              &gt; <br>
                              &gt; Either way, it will be on the road
                              again! CHEER!<br>
                              &gt; <br>
                              &gt; --<br>
                              &gt; Andrew<br>
                              &gt;
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11 to 18K?????  Maybe on a Ferrari.  Maaco did a perfectly acceptable paint=
 job for $395 on a Miata after we did the basic prep work.  They charged an=
 addition hundred for the jams.

I converted my B from a rubber bumper car to a bumperless old style version=
 for about $500 in parts (front and rear Sebring valances).  I made the plu=
gs for under the tail lights out of foam and fiberglass and attached them a=
s extensions to the rear valance.  I used the turn signal units from the fr=
ont rubber bumper.  Modified an old B grill to finish off the job.

________________________________
From: [email-masked] on behalf of Andrew B. Lundgren
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 8:07 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Bmcu] FW: They aren't going to try to total my '78!

There are instructions out there, and a kit from moss.  It requires some we=
lding and paint.  While I can weld, I haven't had much practice since my hi=
ghschool shop classes...  I wouldn't want to take a torch to my B!  And I h=
ave no experience with painting and body work.  I spoke with the shop in Co=
lorado.  Most of the work has do be done on the front end of the car, the p=
art of mine that isn't damaged...  All of the work goes for about $2500, an=
d then comes any needed body work and paint...

As there is paint work required at both ends, if I don't do the whole car, =
there will be blend marks.  I am a bit bummed about that.  Painting the ent=
ire car right runs in the 11,000-18,000 range.

I am not looking for a concourse car though, and that much for me on a B is=
 out of the question, so I have some $ choices to make.  I might end up wit=
h a rubber bumper car at the end of this yet...

--
Andrew

On 6/14/2013 3:20 AM, Barry Engstrum wrote:
I would think that there are step by step instructions on the internet.  Th=
ere might be a You tube video on how to make the change.  It can't be that =
hard, you might need the attaching hardware and it could be just a bolt-up.=
  I'm sure that you would get a lot of help from club members.  I can't hel=
p for 2 weeks.
BarryE  -  -  In Beijing China.

________________________________
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:04:53 -0600
Subject: Re: [Bmcu] FW: They aren't going to try to total my '78!

Hopefully you don't have to haul the car out here to Colorado just for a bu=
mper.  However, I have never come across a finer shop than Sportscar Crafts=
men.  They are a fantastic shop and a great resource for hard to find parts=
 as well.

Andy L.

[email-masked]>> wrote:
Ooops... I replied only to Andrew and meant to send this to the Club as wel=
l.

________________________________
Subject: RE: [Bmcu] They aren't going to try to total my '78!
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 16:15:37 -0600

Good news, Andrew.  Perhaps someone in the club who has done this conversio=
n can help you, rather than hauling it 1000 miles.

How about it, guys.  Anyone done this conversion or know who can do it loca=
lly?

Roger D

> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:25:40 -0600
ailto:[email-masked]>

rk.
> Either way, it will be on the road again! CHEER!
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m>

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<p class=3D"owaPara">11 to 18K?????&nbsp; Maybe on a Ferrari.&nbsp; Maaco d=
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he basic prep work.&nbsp; They charged an addition hundred for the jams.</p=
<p class=3D"owaPara">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"owaPara">I converted my B from a rubber bumper car to a bumperl=
ess old style version for about $500 in parts (front and rear Sebring valan=
ces).&nbsp; I made the plugs for under the tail lights out of foam and fibe=
rglass and attached them as extensions&nbsp;to
 the rear valance.&nbsp; I used the turn signal units from the front rubber=
 bumper.&nbsp; Modified an old B grill to finish off the job.</p>
<p class=3D"owaP"></p>
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<hr tabindex=3D"-1" style=3D"width: 98%; display: inline-block;">
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ri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size: 11pt;"><b>From:</b> bmcu-bounces@autox.=
team.net on behalf of Andrew B. Lundgren<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 14, 2013 8:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bmcu] FW: They aren't going to try to total my '78!</f=
ont>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">There are instructions out there, and a kit =
from moss.&nbsp; It requires some welding and paint.&nbsp; While I can weld=
, I haven't had much practice since my highschool shop classes...&nbsp; I w=
ouldn't want to take a torch to my B!&nbsp; And I have
 no experience with painting and body work.&nbsp; I spoke with the shop in =
Colorado.&nbsp; Most of the work has do be done on the front end of the car=
, the part of mine that isn't damaged...&nbsp; All of the work goes for abo=
ut $2500, and then comes any needed body work and
 paint...&nbsp; <br>
<br>
As there is paint work required at both ends, if I don't do the whole car, =
there will be blend marks.&nbsp; I am a bit bummed about that.&nbsp; Painti=
ng the entire car right runs in the 11,000-18,000 range.&nbsp;
<br>
<br>
I am not looking for a concourse car though, and that much for me on a B is=
 out of the question, so I have some $ choices to make.&nbsp; I might end u=
p with a rubber bumper car at the end of this yet...<br>
<br>
--<br>
Andrew<br>
<br>
On 6/14/2013 3:20 AM, Barry Engstrum wrote:<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I would think that there are step by step instructions on =
the internet.&nbsp; There&nbsp;might be a You tube video on how to make the=
 change.&nbsp; It can't be that hard, you might need the attaching&nbsp;har=
dware and it could be just a bolt-up.&nbsp; I'm sure that&nbsp;you
 would&nbsp;get a lot of help from club members.&nbsp;&nbsp;I can't help fo=
r 2 weeks.<br>
BarryE&nbsp; -&nbsp; -&nbsp; In Beijing China.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
<div>
<hr id=3D"stopSpelling">
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:04:53 -0600<br>
From: <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:andrew.lindeman@=
gmail.com">
[email-masked]</a><br>
To: <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t">[email-masked]</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Bmcu] FW: They aren't going to try to total my '78!<br>
<br>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Hopefully you don't have to haul the car out here to Color=
ado just for a bumper. &nbsp;However, I have never come across a finer shop=
 than Sportscar Craftsmen. &nbsp;They are a fantastic shop and a great reso=
urce for hard to find parts as well.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Andy L.</div>
</div>
<div class=3D"ecxgmail_extra"><br>
<br>
<div class=3D"ecxgmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:17 PM, R J DAVIS <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">rogerdavis87@=
msn.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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t-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: sol=
id;">
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Ooops... I replied only to Andrew and meant to send this t=
o the Club as well.<br>
<br>
<div>
<hr>
From: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">rogerdavis8=
[email-masked]</a><br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]<=
/a><br>
Subject: RE: [Bmcu] They aren't going to try to total my '78!<br>
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 16:15:37 -0600<br>
<br>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Good news, Andrew.&nbsp; Perhaps someone in the club who h=
as done this conversion can help you, rather than hauling it 1000 miles.<br=
<br>
How about it, guys.&nbsp; Anyone done this conversion or know who can do it=
 locally?<br>
<br>
Roger D<br>
<br>
<div>&gt; Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:25:40 -0600<br>
&gt; From: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">lundgren@b=
yu.net</a><br>
&gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">bmcu@auto=
x.team.net</a>;
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]<=
/a><br>
&gt; Subject: [Bmcu] They aren't going to try to total my '78!
<div>
<div class=3D"h5"><br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Got the good news back.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; The damage appraisal doesn't exceed the replacement cost. Now I need t=
o <br>
&gt; decide if I want to restore it and spend the ~$1000 on a new rear rubb=
er <br>
&gt; bumper or spend the same $1000 on a chrome kit and direct the repair <=
br>
&gt; shop to convert it to a chrome bumper car...<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I haven't come across a shop in UT that has done the chrome bumper <br=
&gt; conversion though. I am considering hauling it back to Colorado (my <b=
r>
&gt; home until 2 years ago) and have <a href=3D"http://sportscarcraftsmen.=
com/" target=3D"_blank">
http://sportscarcraftsmen.com/</a> do the work.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Either way, it will be on the road again! CHEER!<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; Andrew<br>
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I have three cars in my shop today that were painted by Maaco.  I have =
another that I plan to take over to the Layton shop to have done this =
winter.  I have nothing but high respect for the folks at the Layton =
Maaco.  When I did my 36 English built Hudson the average bid was =
$20,000 from the local shops.  They all wanted to do it and said they =
were the best.  Paco, at Maaco did the job and it was under 3K.  I would =
trust them with any of my car work including fitting a new bumper.

By the way, does any one have a good source for work on wire wheels.  I =
have one (or perhaps two) that is bent---

Brownie

From: Ron Christensen=20
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 11:30 PM
To: Andrew B. Lundgren ; [email-masked]=20
Subject: Re: [Bmcu] FW: They aren't going to try to total my '78!

11 to 18K?????  Maybe on a Ferrari.  Maaco did a perfectly acceptable =
paint job for $395 on a Miata after we did the basic prep work.  They =
charged an addition hundred for the jams.

I converted my B from a rubber bumper car to a bumperless old style =
version for about $500 in parts (front and rear Sebring valances).  I =
made the plugs for under the tail lights out of foam and fiberglass and =
attached them as extensions to the rear valance.  I used the turn signal =
units from the front rubber bumper.  Modified an old B grill to finish =
off the job.

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From: [email-masked] on behalf of Andrew B. Lundgren
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 8:07 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Bmcu] FW: They aren't going to try to total my '78!=20

There are instructions out there, and a kit from moss.  It requires some =
welding and paint.  While I can weld, I haven't had much practice since =
my highschool shop classes...  I wouldn't want to take a torch to my B!  =
And I have no experience with painting and body work.  I spoke with the =
shop in Colorado.  Most of the work has do be done on the front end of =
the car, the part of mine that isn't damaged...  All of the work goes =
for about $2500, and then comes any needed body work and paint... =20

As there is paint work required at both ends, if I don't do the whole =
car, there will be blend marks.  I am a bit bummed about that.  Painting =
the entire car right runs in the 11,000-18,000 range. =20

I am not looking for a concourse car though, and that much for me on a B =
is out of the question, so I have some $ choices to make.  I might end =
up with a rubber bumper car at the end of this yet...

--
Andrew

  I would think that there are step by step instructions on the =
internet.  There might be a You tube video on how to make the change.  =
It can't be that hard, you might need the attaching hardware and it =
could be just a bolt-up.  I'm sure that you would get a lot of help from =
club members.  I can't help for 2 weeks.
  BarryE  -  -  In Beijing China.
  =20

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  Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:04:53 -0600
  From: [email-masked]
  To: [email-masked]
  Subject: Re: [Bmcu] FW: They aren't going to try to total my '78!

  Hopefully you don't have to haul the car out here to Colorado just for =
a bumper.  However, I have never come across a finer shop than Sportscar =
Craftsmen.  They are a fantastic shop and a great resource for hard to =
find parts as well.=20

  Andy L.

  On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:17 PM, R J DAVIS <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

    Ooops... I replied only to Andrew and meant to send this to the Club =
as well.

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    From: [email-masked]
    To: [email-masked]
    Subject: RE: [Bmcu] They aren't going to try to total my '78!
    Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 16:15:37 -0600

    Good news, Andrew.  Perhaps someone in the club who has done this =
conversion can help you, rather than hauling it 1000 miles.

    How about it, guys.  Anyone done this conversion or know who can do =
it locally?

    Roger D

    >=20
    > Got the good news back.
    >=20
    > The damage appraisal doesn't exceed the replacement cost. Now I =
need to=20
    > decide if I want to restore it and spend the ~$1000 on a new rear =
rubber=20
    > bumper or spend the same $1000 on a chrome kit and direct the =
repair=20
    > I haven't come across a shop in UT that has done the chrome bumper =

    > conversion though. I am considering hauling it back to Colorado =
(my=20
    > home until 2 years ago) and have http://sportscarcraftsmen.com/ do =
the work.

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<DIV>I have three cars in my shop today that were painted by =
Maaco.&nbsp; I have=20
another that I plan to take over to the Layton shop to have done this=20
winter.&nbsp; I have nothing but high respect for the folks at the =
Layton=20
Maaco.&nbsp; When I did my 36 English built Hudson the average bid was =
$20,000=20
from the local shops.&nbsp; They all wanted to do it and said they were =
the=20
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would trust=20
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>By the way, does any one have a good source for work on wire =
wheels.&nbsp;=20
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<DIV>Brownie</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Ron Christensen</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 14, 2013 11:30 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=[email-masked] =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Andrew=20
B. Lundgren</A> ; <A title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Bmcu] FW: They aren't going to try to total my =

'78!</DIV></DIV></DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=3DowaPara>11 to 18K?????&nbsp; Maybe on a Ferrari.&nbsp; Maaco =
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basic prep=20
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<P class=3DowaPara>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DowaPara>I converted my B from a rubber bumper car to a =
bumperless old=20
style version for about $500 in parts (front and rear Sebring =
valances).&nbsp; I=20
made the plugs for under the tail lights out of foam and fiberglass and =
attached=20
them as extensions to the rear valance.&nbsp; I used the turn signal =
units from=20
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sans-serif"=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><B>From:</B> [email-masked] on =
behalf of=20
Andrew B. Lundgren<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 14, 2013 8:07 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
[email-masked]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Bmcu] FW: They aren't going =
to try=20
to total my '78!</FONT>=20
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV class=3Dmoz-cite-prefix>There are instructions out there, and a kit =
from=20
moss.&nbsp; It requires some welding and paint.&nbsp; While I can weld, =
I=20
haven't had much practice since my highschool shop classes...&nbsp; I =
wouldn't=20
want to take a torch to my B!&nbsp; And I have no experience with =
painting and=20
body work.&nbsp; I spoke with the shop in Colorado.&nbsp; Most of the =
work has=20
do be done on the front end of the car, the part of mine that isn't=20
damaged...&nbsp; All of the work goes for about $2500, and then comes =
any needed=20
body work and paint...&nbsp; <BR><BR>As there is paint work required at =
both=20
ends, if I don't do the whole car, there will be blend marks.&nbsp; I am =
a bit=20
bummed about that.&nbsp; Painting the entire car right runs in the =
11,000-18,000=20
range.&nbsp; <BR><BR>I am not looking for a concourse car though, and =
that much=20
for me on a B is out of the question, so I have some $ choices to =
make.&nbsp; I=20
might end up with a rubber bumper car at the end of this=20
yet...<BR><BR>--<BR>Andrew<BR><BR>On 6/14/2013 3:20 AM, Barry Engstrum=20
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  internet.&nbsp; There might be a You tube video on how to make the=20
  change.&nbsp; It can't be that hard, you might need the attaching =
hardware and=20
  it could be just a bolt-up.&nbsp; I'm sure that you would get a lot of =
help=20
  from club members.&nbsp; I can't help for 2 weeks.<BR>BarryE&nbsp; =
-&nbsp;=20
  -&nbsp; In Beijing China.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>
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  Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:04:53 -0600<BR>From: <A=20
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href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A><B=
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  <DIV dir=3Dltr>Hopefully you don't have to haul the car out here to =
Colorado=20
  just for a bumper.&nbsp; However, I have never come across a finer =
shop than=20
  Sportscar Craftsmen.&nbsp; They are a fantastic shop and a great =
resource for=20
  hard to find parts as well.=20
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Andy L.</DIV></DIV>
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  <DIV class=3Decxgmail_quote>On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:17 PM, R J DAVIS =
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    <DIV dir=3Dltr>Ooops... I replied only to Andrew and meant to send =
this to the=20
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    From: <A href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=20
    target=3D_blank>[email-masked]</A><BR>To: <A=20
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    target=3D_blank>[email-masked]</A><BR>Subject: RE: [Bmcu] They =
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-0600<BR><BR>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr>Good news, Andrew.&nbsp; Perhaps someone in the club =
who has=20
    done this conversion can help you, rather than hauling it 1000=20
    miles.<BR><BR>How about it, guys.&nbsp; Anyone done this conversion =
or know=20
    who can do it locally?<BR><BR>Roger D<BR><BR>
    <DIV>&gt; Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:25:40 -0600<BR>&gt; From: <A=20
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target=3D_blank>[email-masked]</A><BR>&gt;=20
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href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=20
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aren't=20
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    <DIV>
    <DIV class=3Dh5><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Got the good news back.<BR>&gt; =
<BR>&gt; The=20
    damage appraisal doesn't exceed the replacement cost. Now I need to =
<BR>&gt;=20
    decide if I want to restore it and spend the ~$1000 on a new rear =
rubber=20
    <BR>&gt; bumper or spend the same $1000 on a chrome kit and direct =
the=20
    repair <BR>&gt; shop to convert it to a chrome bumper car...<BR>&gt; =

    <BR>&gt; I haven't come across a shop in UT that has done the chrome =
bumper=20
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Colorado (my=20
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work.<BR>&gt;=20
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