From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Fri May 4 18:28:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B6302D0D48 for ; Fri, 4 May 2012 18:28:38 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: alpines@autox.team.net Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from emh07.mail.saunalahti.fi (emh07.mail.saunalahti.fi [62.142.5.117]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F332D09E2 for ; Fri, 4 May 2012 16:39:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from saunalahti-vams (vs3-11.mail.saunalahti.fi [62.142.5.95]) by emh07-2.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with SMTP id D4BCA18D30F for ; Sat, 5 May 2012 01:40:15 +0300 (EEST) Received: from emh06.mail.saunalahti.fi ([62.142.5.116]) by vs3-11.mail.saunalahti.fi ([62.142.5.95]) with SMTP (gateway) id A07133D0A5E; Sat, 05 May 2012 01:40:15 +0300 Received: from auriPC (a88-112-90-14.elisa-laajakaista.fi [88.112.90.14]) by emh06.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4F6FE51A3 for ; Sat, 5 May 2012 01:40:14 +0300 (EEST) From: "Lauri Lehtinen" To: Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 01:40:13 +0300 Message-ID: <002201cd2a46$df8f4c00$9eade400$@lauri@kolumbus.fi> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac0qRt6taJ70OaRWQLyqWoWDYpJVxQ== Content-Language: fi X-Antivirus: VAMS X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [Alpines] Window lift X-BeenThere: alpines@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Sunbeam Alpine Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net After replacing side window seals I have difficulties to replace windows and adjust lift movement. Windows are in situ, but when lift moves up and down windows want to move fore and after. When adjusting U rails at rear of the door, window tilts and stop moving. There must be some common wisdom I dont know? #auri Lehtinen journalist, engineer +358 400 851988 _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/mharc@autox.team.net From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Sat May 5 01:03:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 551752D0BA8 for ; Sat, 5 May 2012 01:03:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: alpines@autox.team.net Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (imr-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64FD02D0BC5 for ; Sat, 5 May 2012 00:13:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.201]) by imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q456DwJ3013302; Sat, 5 May 2012 02:13:58 -0400 Received: from core-mme005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mme005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.105.17]) by mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 10E2CE000081; Sat, 5 May 2012 02:13:58 -0400 (EDT) From: JACranwell@aol.com Message-ID: <4782e.226cf83a.3cd61f25@aol.com> Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 02:13:57 -0400 (EDT) To: lehtinen.lauri@kolumbus.fi, alpines@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5016 X-Originating-IP: [92.7.136.243] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1336198438; bh=gdgkr+aoODEe2IgQxn7g+SbrbZufyJgrq7DXEeP7tHg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=J3ilRgVq3tN+bMKOv4WXdTyxFIw59NXtpHcYxY0qK+qbAnE8pr960ar4IRspIUu1y FT/YO6oEw0NOdePFRIMSMYbhL6Pv57ubzjO7eQvgdCPvW8GVsWHNI6ZPKBWBc9k5fQ 3B7D3illFNwRVIdbgkjs0JL9ubi3EZkTZngo+/s4= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:340396256:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c94fa4c52656d1 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [Alpines] Window lift X-BeenThere: alpines@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Sunbeam Alpine Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Lauri, The window channels are different sizes between series, ithink pre SII and SIII on. You may have used parts from different series, e.g with rollers too large for the channel. Is that possible. If not, it may be the side channels need moving in a little to avoid catching. Also try a little silcon grease on the side channels, and plenty of regular grease in the bottom channel under the glass. Julian. _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/mharc@autox.team.net From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Sat May 5 15:42:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AAF92D0B4D for ; Sat, 5 May 2012 15:42:08 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: alpines@autox.team.net Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from emh01.mail.saunalahti.fi (emh01.mail.saunalahti.fi [62.142.5.107]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 033C32D0A32 for ; Sat, 5 May 2012 14:42:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from saunalahti-vams (vs3-10.mail.saunalahti.fi [62.142.5.94]) by emh01-2.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with SMTP id 9E5588C588; Sat, 5 May 2012 23:42:46 +0300 (EEST) Received: from emh07.mail.saunalahti.fi ([62.142.5.117]) by vs3-10.mail.saunalahti.fi ([62.142.5.94]) with SMTP (gateway) id A011CF96E35; Sat, 05 May 2012 23:42:46 +0300 Received: from auriPC (a88-112-90-14.elisa-laajakaista.fi [88.112.90.14]) by emh07.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70CF11C6386; Sat, 5 May 2012 23:42:44 +0300 (EEST) From: "Lauri Lehtinen" To: , References: <4782e.226cf83a.3cd61f25@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <4782e.226cf83a.3cd61f25@aol.com> Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 23:42:43 +0300 Message-ID: <001b01cd2aff$a056e9d0$e104bd70$@lauri@kolumbus.fi> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac0qhvniigkd2RoHTbeCg6ge9AR9wQAdzL7Q Content-Language: fi X-Antivirus: VAMS X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [Alpines] Window lift X-BeenThere: alpines@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Sunbeam Alpine Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Julian (and folks), yes, I mixed S4 and S5 mechanisms. Rollers in S5 were so big there was no hope to get them into S4 rails. So I had to take working gear system from S5 and rivet them into my old parts. Ron Tebo just answered me and told that window supporting rails must be adjusted front and rear. I adjusted rear, and only the top end, and am quite sure it will operate correctly when it is lined with the window route  front, rear and up and down. It works well when supported by hand, but steel is not as flexible as flesh. Thank you all, it might be able to find this info also from workshop manual, but at midnight time I was toooo tired. #arry Ldhettdjd: JACranwell@aol.com [mailto:JACranwell@aol.com] Ldhetetty: 5. toukokuuta 2012 9:14 Vastaanottaja: lehtinen.lauri@kolumbus.fi; alpines@autox.team.net Aihe: Re: [Alpines] Window lift Lauri, The window channels are different sizes between series, ithink pre SII and SIII on. You may have used parts from different series, e.g with rollers too large for the channel. Is that possible. If not, it may be the side channels need moving in a little to avoid catching. Also try a little silcon grease on the side channels, and plenty of regular grease in the bottom channel under the glass. Julian. _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/mharc@autox.team.net From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Thu May 24 21:44:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3026E2D03E9 for ; Thu, 24 May 2012 21:44:15 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: alpines@autox.team.net Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from emh04.mail.saunalahti.fi (emh04.mail.saunalahti.fi [62.142.5.110]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F28B12D0390 for ; Thu, 24 May 2012 21:44:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from saunalahti-vams (vs3-12.mail.saunalahti.fi [62.142.5.96]) by emh04.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with SMTP id 7AF0A1A284C for ; Fri, 25 May 2012 06:44:53 +0300 (EEST) Received: from emh04.mail.saunalahti.fi ([62.142.5.110]) by vs3-12.mail.saunalahti.fi ([62.142.5.96]) with SMTP (gateway) id A065495C738; Fri, 25 May 2012 06:44:53 +0300 Received: from auriPC (a88-112-90-14.elisa-laajakaista.fi [88.112.90.14]) by emh04.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 599EB1A284C for ; Fri, 25 May 2012 06:44:53 +0300 (EEST) From: "Lauri Lehtinen" To: Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 06:44:52 +0300 Message-ID: <00a001cd3a28$be10d750$3a3285f0$@lauri@kolumbus.fi> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac06KL2zFUljHgazSyyb8r4JDjY9cQ== Content-Language: fi X-Antivirus: VAMS X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [Alpines] Flame trap X-BeenThere: alpines@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Sunbeam Alpine Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Has anyone a flame trap to sell? I have not found any for sale in the net, and I missed my old one. #auri Lehtinen journalist, engineer +358 400 851988 _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/mharc@autox.team.net From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Fri May 25 01:25:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A21A22D03F3 for ; Fri, 25 May 2012 01:25:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: alpines@autox.team.net Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (imr-mb01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.164]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DB542D03D6 for ; Fri, 25 May 2012 01:24:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.77]) by imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q4P7PREN006391; Fri, 25 May 2012 03:25:27 -0400 Received: from core-mme002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mme002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.105.5]) by mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id E69FDE000081; Fri, 25 May 2012 03:25:26 -0400 (EDT) From: JACranwell@aol.com Message-ID: <62473.6fd8151c.3cf08de6@aol.com> Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 03:25:26 -0400 (EDT) To: lehtinen.lauri@kolumbus.fi, alpines@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5016 X-Originating-IP: [92.7.152.95] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1337930727; bh=oJXwcJ9zOaXiIC2Sjj1j3Pgnruw3NYlABWH0Fk61S/Q=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tO+m9bobGMIIQDEcM0RQlsA2BrTC/VDrPuDjIBz+zBxdK7z1EUCsw6MqdoOeD39DR cskWmCsgfbEq40ZJjGJ3KIWdPm0zASAg9pkvKIuWn60c0zM5E49vKkNwGl3yVM0kbF 4iorac5BNnbDAtSqjkmBNaA1ABaaZ5LjpjZJebVs= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:385703040:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294d4fbf33e63211 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [Alpines] Flame trap X-BeenThere: alpines@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Sunbeam Alpine Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Hi lauri, These folks have one for #5.00, which seems pretty good to me. _http://www.sunbeamalpineparts.co.uk/engine4.html_ (http://www.sunbeamalpineparts.co.uk/engine4.html) Julian. _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/mharc@autox.team.net From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Fri May 25 09:41:34 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B09172D03A5 for ; Fri, 25 May 2012 09:41:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: alpines@autox.team.net Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from lemmy.anl.gov (lemmy.anl.gov [146.137.14.2]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94AE72D0290 for ; Fri, 25 May 2012 09:41:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from HETFIELD.anl.gov ([146.137.14.6]) by lemmy.anl.gov ([146.137.14.2]) with mapi; Fri, 25 May 2012 10:42:16 -0500 From: "Wiencek, Thomas" To: "JACranwell@aol.com" , "lehtinen.lauri@kolumbus.fi" , "alpines@autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 10:42:14 -0500 Thread-Topic: [Alpines] Flame trap Thread-Index: Ac06R7Yy+hztd6gdQ/+4l3FPVy4KzAARSokA Message-ID: <1FA56BB961B62E4BBF260430AFBEF719067C5CD039@HETFIELD.anl.gov> References: <62473.6fd8151c.3cf08de6@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <62473.6fd8151c.3cf08de6@aol.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Alpines] Flame trap X-BeenThere: alpines@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Sunbeam Alpine Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Please note the following from the site. "We will not currently sell to outside the UK due to the delivery costs however if you buy an item and the postage stated in my site covers the cost then I will send you the item." -----Original Message----- From: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:alpines-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of JACranwell@aol.com Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 2:25 AM To: lehtinen.lauri@kolumbus.fi; alpines@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Alpines] Flame trap Hi lauri, These folks have one for #5.00, which seems pretty good to me. _http://www.sunbeamalpineparts.co.uk/engine4.html_ (http://www.sunbeamalpineparts.co.uk/engine4.html) Julian. _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/wiencek@anl.gov _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/mharc@autox.team.net From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Fri May 25 09:44:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EAC32D0297 for ; Fri, 25 May 2012 09:44:28 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: alpines@autox.team.net Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from lemmy.anl.gov (lemmy.anl.gov [146.137.14.2]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA8B2D0290 for ; Fri, 25 May 2012 09:44:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from HETFIELD.anl.gov ([146.137.14.6]) by lemmy.anl.gov ([146.137.14.2]) with mapi; Fri, 25 May 2012 10:45:09 -0500 From: "Wiencek, Thomas" To: "JACranwell@aol.com" , "lehtinen.lauri@kolumbus.fi" , "alpines@autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 10:45:08 -0500 Thread-Topic: [Alpines] Flame trap Thread-Index: Ac06R7Yy+hztd6gdQ/+4l3FPVy4KzAARXf1A Message-ID: <1FA56BB961B62E4BBF260430AFBEF719067C5CD03D@HETFIELD.anl.gov> References: <62473.6fd8151c.3cf08de6@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <62473.6fd8151c.3cf08de6@aol.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Alpines] Flame trap X-BeenThere: alpines@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Sunbeam Alpine Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Has anyone tried their distributor? 35 pounds sounds like a deal. http://www.sunbeamalpineparts.co.uk/electricalequipment2.html 71804150 Distributor AC Delco -----Original Message----- From: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:alpines-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of JACranwell@aol.com Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 2:25 AM To: lehtinen.lauri@kolumbus.fi; alpines@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Alpines] Flame trap Hi lauri, These folks have one for #5.00, which seems pretty good to me. _http://www.sunbeamalpineparts.co.uk/engine4.html_ (http://www.sunbeamalpineparts.co.uk/engine4.html) Julian. _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/wiencek@anl.gov _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/mharc@autox.team.net From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Sat May 26 19:07:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C83792D02D9 for ; Sat, 26 May 2012 19:07:50 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: alpines@autox.team.net Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc1-s15.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s15.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.26]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F862D0186 for ; Sat, 26 May 2012 19:06:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU169-DS25 ([65.55.116.9]) by blu0-omc1-s15.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 26 May 2012 18:07:12 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [76.121.239.5] X-Originating-Email: [banana111@msn.com] Message-ID: From: "Brent Edinger" To: "Alpines" Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 18:07:12 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MSN 9 Seal-Send-Time: Sat, 26 May 2012 18:07:12 -0700 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 May 2012 01:07:12.0743 (UTC) FILETIME=[0C687F70:01CD3BA5] X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [Alpines] Alpine for sale X-BeenThere: alpines@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Sunbeam Alpine Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net I was out cruising around in my Tiger and a guy waved me down and said he had an Apline in storage he would like to sell. Not clear on a price but he said he paid $5500 for it. He's in the north Seattle area and I didn't get any details other than it's red and been in storage for several years. You can call him at 425-503-6426 his name is Todd Speiser. no email on his business card. Brent Edinger _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/mharc@autox.team.net From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Sat May 26 21:00:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB53F2D02CA for ; Sat, 26 May 2012 21:00:28 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: alpines@autox.team.net Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F163E2D028A for ; Sat, 26 May 2012 21:00:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [64.41.5.3] (helo=RacerX) by elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1SYTiw-00054f-6m; Sat, 26 May 2012 23:00:54 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Gary" To: "Brent Edinger" , "Alpines" References: Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 22:03:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-ELNK-Trace: ffd8ac8558d1cd74ec4831203c15c4fb2951211ce6890f881ee371e34d7de135125ff10abef27814350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 64.41.5.3 Subject: Re: [Alpines] Alpine for sale X-BeenThere: alpines@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Sunbeam Alpine Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Good to hear the prices are good... Gary Series II _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/mharc@autox.team.net From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Tue May 29 02:55:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A628A2D0332 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 02:55:05 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: alpines@autox.team.net Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from oms-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (oms-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [205.188.255.12]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7EE2D0317 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 02:54:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.77]) by oms-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (AOL Outbound OMS Interface) with ESMTP id 4287238000090; Tue, 29 May 2012 04:55:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mle003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mle003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.126.208]) by mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id E7452E000082; Tue, 29 May 2012 04:55:45 -0400 (EDT) To: betty.palfrey@deancare.com, digville@merr.com, frogota@live.com, service@gandermtn.com, alpines@autox.team.net, sandanwilk@charter.net, wahlinf16@aol.com X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Peter Sanville X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 36210-MOBILE Received: from 195.29.92.102 by webmail-d065.sysops.aol.com (205.188.59.130) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 29 May 2012 04:55:45 -0400 Message-Id: <8CF0B8FF85BC834-1418-28@webmail-d065.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [195.29.92.102] Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 04:55:45 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: S X-SPAM-FLAG: YES DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1338281746; bh=seL3nprD+OZnQt3+FSl2kCHmW7NosP0PiI9GXjTpiyk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fes6xA4tHynjZyWzRzSJVTdamOuWEi0sDn+ukZk8fVaYMX6sFh0VV1v15rJaxP00X CBgTPShSaiDxQEzY/4Mhdt91xZepHmr8Ts0qeZUaBcH/y86p6DgbMU6Z4wGMlrJDVg TKRYcUlp7BUKFGu0qR6z0lYUtYkHrF8NWDWyVrVE= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:227448784:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-REROUTE: YES x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294d4fc48f116754 Subject: [Alpines] (no subject) X-BeenThere: alpines@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Sunbeam Alpine Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net http://hoangngocviet.com/sseatun.php?pageID=216 Learn How to Make Money OnIine Fast _______________ Why, what else is gone, Sally?Thers six CANDLES gone--thats what. jennielee akker Tue, 29 May 2012 9:55:45 _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/mharc@autox.team.net From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Tue May 29 19:32:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4682D044A for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 19:32:15 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: alpines@autox.team.net Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from thecia.net (opcenter.thecia.net [208.218.131.20]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B3C2D03B1; Tue, 29 May 2012 19:30:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from thecia.net ([208.218.131.20]) by smtp.thecia.net; Tue, 29 May 2012 21:31:11 -0400 From: "rande" To: tigers@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 21:31:11 -0400 X-Mailer: DMailWeb Web to Mail Gateway 2.8a, http://netwinsite.com/top_mail.htm Message-id: <4fc5785f.2af9.0@thecia.net> X-User-Info: 96.237.177.118 MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: alpines@autox.team.net Subject: [Alpines] Alpine/Tiger photo X-BeenThere: alpines@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: rande@thecia.net List-Id: Sunbeam Alpine Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net I've known of this photo since college around 1972, but am just asking for help about it now. In some editions of the Bill Owens coffee table book SUBURBIA, the cover photo is a couple in lawn chairs on their driveway, their son on roller skates next to them, the garage door is open, and inside is a boat on the left and either a Tiger or an Alpine on the right. I'm trying to find out if any of our Northern California folks know either the car or the people and what model Sunbeam it is. I'll give you all of the information I have so far. The California black plate number is UGT 517. The license plate dealer frame is from Jay's Auto Imports, in San Leandro, CA The photo also appeared in the Week in Review section of the New York Times, dated May 18, 1997, and their caption read, "Livermore, Calif. 1970: Savoring life in the middle class, when it's easier to define." The photo credit: Bill Owens (photographer) from the Robert Koch Gallery, San Francisco I found an easy to view image online by Googling images and searching for 'Bill Owens Suburbia'. The car has reverse lights, but I can't make out the area left of the license plate on the boot/trunk where a 'Sunbeam Tiger' emblem pair might be, and the area underneath the bumper is too dark to check if the car has 'twice pipes'. _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/mharc@autox.team.net From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Wed May 30 04:43:31 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7F8F2D046B for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 04:43:31 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: alpines@autox.team.net Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db01.mx.aol.com (imr-db01.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00DE2D03D5; Wed, 30 May 2012 04:43:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.72]) by imr-db01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q4UAi1wn031925; Wed, 30 May 2012 06:44:01 -0400 Received: from core-mjc002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mjc002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.103.133]) by mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 80AF9E000081; Wed, 30 May 2012 06:44:01 -0400 (EDT) References: <4fc5785f.2af9.0@thecia.net> To: rande@thecia.net, tigers@autox.team.net In-Reply-To: <4fc5785f.2af9.0@thecia.net> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI Received: from 24.124.45.67 by webmail-m022.sysops.aol.com (64.12.183.103) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 30 May 2012 06:44:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: canisdog@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 36216-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CF0C68426D8DBF-12EC-523F2@webmail-m022.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [24.124.45.67] Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 06:44:01 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1338374641; bh=h14t1JgwKQnVNaLGY9cLnWWKU945/HWDxkoYsUFqoxo=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fJHRJldc/NHRc2+jQYiDnyIOGouIT6xkcL7R6EsYxzAtvXjikgN337JfDs5OsJrQG gKO+gMsQgSlM49TrfMISzW+EmU93sec6BrCLMBOxXB0lArI+8ah2/rhYTlgJBxEaH+ u32XvtYy9v/whHcmFpWyQzXAsVmCnnROC83G/rhQ= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:495370912:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29484fc5f9f132fb X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: alpines@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Alpines] Alpine/Tiger photo X-BeenThere: alpines@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Sunbeam Alpine Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net So what is the fascination with this particular photo? Do you know the folks? Or are you really after that classic Sears Lawn Master mower? :) Paul Bill Owens Suburbia -----Original Message----- From: rande To: tigers Cc: alpines Sent: Tue, May 29, 2012 8:33 pm Subject: [Alpines] Alpine/Tiger photo I've known of this photo since college around 1972, but am just asking for help about it now. In some editions of the Bill Owens coffee table book SUBURBIA, the cover photo is a couple in lawn chairs on their driveway, their son on roller skates next to them, the garage door is open, and inside is a boat on the left and either a Tiger or an Alpine on the right. I'm trying to find out if any of our Northern California folks know either the car or the people and what model Sunbeam it is. I'll give you all of the information I have so far. The California black plate number is UGT 517. The license plate dealer frame is from Jay's Auto Imports, in San Leandro, CA The photo also appeared in the Week in Review section of the New York Times, dated May 18, 1997, and their caption read, "Livermore, Calif. 1970: Savoring life in the middle class, when it's easier to define." The photo credit: Bill Owens (photographer) from the Robert Koch Gallery, San Francisco I found an easy to view image online by Googling images and searching for 'Bill Owens Suburbia'. The car has reverse lights, but I can't make out the area left of the license plate on the boot/trunk where a 'Sunbeam Tiger' emblem pair might be, and the area underneath the bumper is too dark to check if the car has 'twice pipes'. _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/canisdog@aol.com _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/mharc@autox.team.net From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Wed May 30 05:46:29 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1EA52D045F for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 05:46:29 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: alpines@autox.team.net Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from thecia.net (opcenter.thecia.net [208.218.131.20]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B645D2D03AC; Wed, 30 May 2012 05:46:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from thecia.net ([208.218.131.20]) by smtp.thecia.net; Wed, 30 May 2012 07:47:10 -0400 From: "rande" To: tigers@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 07:47:10 -0400 X-Mailer: DMailWeb Web to Mail Gateway 2.8a, http://netwinsite.com/top_mail.htm Message-id: <4fc608be.3548.0@thecia.net> X-User-Info: 72.74.134.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: alpines@autox.team.net Subject: [Alpines] the 'which Sunbeam is it?' photo X-BeenThere: alpines@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: rande@thecia.net List-Id: Sunbeam Alpine Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net snip ... So what is the fascination with this particular photo? Do you know the folks? Or are you really after that classic Sears Lawn Master mower? :) ...' No, but you're close. It's those classic folding lawn chairs. Got any idea what those go for in a retro store today? That's the B answer. The A answer is that which model car this was has bugged me for years, more so after I saw Dana Freeman's Tiger back again in 1988 and after I bought my own car the next year. And, each time I would try to find out more, something else would come up and I would have to drop the search. This weekend, I unearthed the NY Times photo and tried again. If Norm is correct, the car is a Tiger Mk II more recently housed in Castro Valley, west of the Livermore location from the original photo. In the Book of Norman, the color as of Jan. 1977 is listed as blue (The license plate number in the photo matches the entry in the BON). If it hasn't changed color, my best guess is Mediterranean Blue, based on the light color in the photo. And the owners were still members of STOA as of 2000, the latest roster that I have shows. This has turned into the Rootes version of History Detectives. Thanks to all so far who've helped me. _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/mharc@autox.team.net From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Thu May 31 04:57:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E45D22D031D for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 04:57:44 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: alpines@autox.team.net Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db01.mx.aol.com (imr-db01.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39CA22D02FC; Thu, 31 May 2012 04:54:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.204]) by imr-db01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q4VAtZNc005684; Thu, 31 May 2012 06:55:35 -0400 Received: from core-mjd004a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mjd004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.103.205]) by mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 2C9DDE000082; Thu, 31 May 2012 06:55:35 -0400 (EDT) References: <4fc608be.3548.0@thecia.net> To: tigers@autox.team.net In-Reply-To: <4fc608be.3548.0@thecia.net> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI Received: from 24.124.45.67 by webmail-d002.sysops.aol.com (205.188.181.93) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 31 May 2012 06:55:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: canisdog@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 36255-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CF0D330A440A9B-2494-431@webmail-d002.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [24.124.45.67] Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 06:55:35 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1338461735; bh=l1SMGCsfsTXuwlcWoUUboEuObUS4UV4hyeBTQiX9mUU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KzE5RpMiRY7C2Fsq+75yhLqJ822CvvhCsh9ZKD8HhxxZjNWECCx/Ft4klO49Yuw0G s0F9aTscVMcd33PFt5p2Sg/UAScBOGkiCsW/vgArWKCRwJH/lAIqWFtDeC45CQkvfl P4mFzz/HGJDcdgy1ITr9+sWf7VwKeanizcV4Ok0E= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:521152672:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cc4fc74e272f44 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: alpines@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Alpines] the 'which Sunbeam is it?' photo X-BeenThere: alpines@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Sunbeam Alpine Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Not only that, but do you know what families and parents like that go for these days!! :) Very interesting history. Keep us posted when you find out more. Paul -----Original Message----- From: rande To: tigers Cc: alpines Sent: Wed, May 30, 2012 6:47 am Subject: [Alpines] the 'which Sunbeam is it?' photo snip ... So what is the fascination with this particular photo? Do you know the folks? Or are you really after that classic Sears Lawn Master mower? :) ...' No, but you're close. It's those classic folding lawn chairs. Got any idea what those go for in a retro store today? That's the B answer. The A answer is that which model car this was has bugged me for years, more so after I saw Dana Freeman's Tiger back again in 1988 and after I bought my own car the next year. And, each time I would try to find out more, something else would come up and I would have to drop the search. This weekend, I unearthed the NY Times photo and tried again. If Norm is correct, the car is a Tiger Mk II more recently housed in Castro Valley, west of the Livermore location from the original photo. In the Book of Norman, the color as of Jan. 1977 is listed as blue (The license plate number in the photo matches the entry in the BON). If it hasn't changed color, my best guess is Mediterranean Blue, based on the light color in the photo. And the owners were still members of STOA as of 2000, the latest roster that I have shows. This has turned into the Rootes version of History Detectives. Thanks to all so far who've helped me. _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/canisdog@aol.com _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/mharc@autox.team.net From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Thu May 31 14:19:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC4AC2D0374 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 14:19:49 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: alpines@autox.team.net Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id AE69B2C0BBE for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 14:19:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 2870 invoked by uid 0); 31 May 2012 20:20:33 -0000 Received: from 83.85.178.41 by www046.gmx.net with HTTP; Thu, 31 May 2012 22:20:33 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 22:20:33 +0200 From: "Bert Palte" In-Reply-To: <8CF0D330A440A9B-2494-431@webmail-d002.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20120531202033.94130@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4fc608be.3548.0@thecia.net> <8CF0D330A440A9B-2494-431@webmail-d002.sysops.aol.com> To: canisdog@aol.com X-Authenticated: #487652 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+7+jx2ZIS7HqMzNidtBZZ9ZuMfaVCMLMAz+LPCgu mZvCF9LxFUam8gHs/7dUef/fxDpfmRqH3nvA== X-GMX-UID: xre1b6FFeSEqV4UTbHQhF6l+IGRvbwCo Cc: alpines@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Alpines] the 'which Sunbeam is it?' photo X-BeenThere: alpines@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Sunbeam Alpine Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Yes, garages form even today a nice background for pictures or video clips. Google 'youtube call me maybe' for a contemporary video clip involving not a Tiger but a (I assume) Ford Mustang Mk1. Bert -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Thu, 31 May 2012 06:55:35 -0400 (EDT) > Von: canisdog@aol.com > An: tigers@autox.team.net > CC: alpines@autox.team.net > Betreff: Re: [Alpines] the \'which Sunbeam is it?\' photo > Not only that, but do you know what families and parents like that go for > these days!! :) > > Very interesting history. Keep us posted when you find out more. > > Paul > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: rande > To: tigers > Cc: alpines > Sent: Wed, May 30, 2012 6:47 am > Subject: [Alpines] the 'which Sunbeam is it?' photo > > > snip ... So what is the fascination with this particular photo? Do you > know > the folks? > Or are you really after that classic Sears Lawn Master mower? :) ...' > > No, but you're close. It's those classic folding lawn chairs. Got any idea > what > those go for in a retro store today? > > That's the B answer. The A answer is that which model car this was has > bugged > me for years, more so after I saw Dana Freeman's Tiger back again in 1988 > and > after I bought my own car the next year. And, each time I would try to > find > out more, something else would come up and I would have to drop the > search. > This weekend, I unearthed the NY Times photo and tried again. > > If Norm is correct, the car is a Tiger Mk II more recently housed in > Castro > Valley, west of the Livermore location from the original photo. In the > Book > of Norman, the color as of Jan. 1977 > is listed as blue (The license plate number in the photo matches the entry > in > the BON). If it hasn't changed color, my best guess is Mediterranean Blue, > based > on the light color in the photo. And the owners were still members of STOA > as > of 2000, the latest roster that I have shows. > > This has turned into the Rootes version of History Detectives. Thanks to > all > so far who've helped me. > _______________________________________________ > Alpines@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $17.25 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/canisdog@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > Alpines@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $17.25 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/palte@gmx.net > -- NEU: FreePhone 3-fach-Flat mit kostenlosem Smartphone! 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