Subject: Re: [6pack] Two Issues

From: Victor Snively <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 11:17:24 +0000 (UTC)

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Bob,
I experienced the back-up light issue (they didn't work) when I bought the =
car 22 years ago. It needed a clutch, and once I had everything ready to bu=
tton up after reassembly, I noticed there were two green pigtails in the ha=
rness, but discovered only one operated the back-up lights. Someone previou=
s to me chose the wrong one. I simply switched the bullet connector from on=
e pigtail to the other and back-up lights worked. I don't remember a red th=
read, but I do remember a "dummy" pigtail, or at least the one that didn't =
juice the back-up lights. I'm fairly certain that the harness is original (=
1975) to the car, not sure what's the function of alternate pigtail. It's a=
n overdrive car, but it works fine.
Hope this helps.
Regards,Vic Snively'75 TR6 w/AC

-----Original Message-----
From: rmf3860 rmf3860 <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thu, Jan 27, 2022 10:09 pm
Subject: [6pack] Two Issues

Hello All,
As you may know from my earlier post, by TR6 is alive and running beautiful=
ly following an extensive engine rebuild that ended up taking a few years, =
rather than the few months I had envisioned. Life and other important thing=
s interfered. Imagine that=E2=80=A6
I=E2=80=99m now finishing up the final details and have encountered two iss=
ues, probably unrelated, that I need your help in diagnosing.=C2=A0
First: Only my left turn signal works and the hazard light doesn=E2=80=99t =
work at all.=C2=A0
Second: The back-up lights don=E2=80=99t work. I=E2=80=99ve installed a new=
 back up light harness. I=E2=80=99ve tried to study the wiring diagram but =
can=E2=80=99t quite figure out how the 3 wires connect to the main harness=
=E2=80=99 3 bullet connectors in the passenger foot well area. I can see th=
at two of the new harness wires are solid green and the other has a ?red? t=
hread. The main harness wires are almost impossible to discern which are so=
lid and which has a different color thread.
Can anyone help me sort out these issues?
Thanks.Bob FabieFredericksburg, VA
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<div style=3D"color:black;font: 10pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Bob,
<div><br>
</div>

<div>I experienced the back-up light issue (they didn't work) when I bought=
 the car 22 years ago. It needed a clutch, and once I had everything ready =
to button up after reassembly, I noticed there were two green pigtails in t=
he harness, but discovered only one operated the back-up lights. Someone pr=
evious to me chose the wrong one. I simply switched the bullet connector fr=
om one pigtail to the other and back-up lights worked. I don't remember a r=
ed thread, but I do remember a "dummy" pigtail, or at least the one that di=
dn't juice the back-up lights. I'm fairly certain that the harness is origi=
nal (1975) to the car, not sure what's the function of alternate pigtail. I=
t's an overdrive car, but it works fine.</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>Hope this helps.</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>Regards,</div>

<div>Vic Snively</div>

<div>'75 TR6 w/AC</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div><br>
<br>

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 size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: rmf3860 rmf3860 &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: [email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Thu, Jan 27, 2022 10:09 pm<br>
Subject: [6pack] Two Issues<br>
<br>

<div id=3D"yiv8042094960">Hello All,
<div><br>
</div>

<div>As you may know from my earlier post, by TR6 is alive and running beau=
tifully following an extensive engine rebuild that ended up taking a few ye=
ars, rather than the few months I had envisioned. Life and other important =
things interfered. Imagine that=E2=80=A6</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>I=E2=80=99m now finishing up the final details and have encountered tw=
o issues, probably unrelated, that I need your help in diagnosing.&nbsp;</d=
iv>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>First: Only my left turn signal works and the hazard light doesn=E2=80=
=99t work at all.&nbsp;</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>Second: The back-up lights don=E2=80=99t work. I=E2=80=99ve installed =
a new back up light harness. I=E2=80=99ve tried to study the wiring diagram=
 but can=E2=80=99t quite figure out how the 3 wires connect to the main har=
ness=E2=80=99 3 bullet connectors in the passenger foot well area. I can se=
e that two of the new harness wires are solid green and the other has a ?re=
d? thread. The main harness wires are almost impossible to discern which ar=
e solid and which has a different color thread.</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>Can anyone help me sort out these issues?</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>Thanks.</div>

<div>Bob Fabie</div>

<div>Fredericksburg, VA</div>

<div><br>
</div>

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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 12:53:08 +0000 (UTC)

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 Here is a screen shot of the wiring to the transmission From Dan Master's =
handy wiring diagrams.=C2=A0 As you can see, there is a green wire (fused 1=
2 volts) to the switch and a Green/Brown wire which feeds power from the sw=
itch to the lights.=C2=A0 The Green wire should be hot anytime the key is o=
n.=C2=A0 The fuse that feeds it also feeds power to the heater fan, wipers,=
 gauges, turn signals so if they work you are probably good.
Turn signals: are both lights not working or is it just one?=C2=A0 If one b=
ulb is not lighting up the other bulb will not draw enough current to cause=
 the flasher to flash.
On the other hand, it might just be the bulbs or bulb sockets.=C2=A0 The so=
ckets are notoriously unreliable, especially when they get old.=C2=A0 The g=
round connection is the usual suspect.=C2=A0 Start there.=C2=A0 If you have=
 a volt meter check for voltage on the wires where they plug onto the socke=
ts.
=20
Dave=20

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-----Original Message-----
From: rmf3860 rmf3860 <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thu, Jan 27, 2022 9:09 pm
Subject: [6pack] Two Issues

Hello All,

[email-masked]

@cs.com

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<div style=3D"color:black;font: 12pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
<div> <img src=3D"data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAXoAAAB5CAY=
lEX1xznms91qEPSl/M7Do4f8DdgOGO9xcT0sAAAAASUVORK5CYII=3D" alt=3D""></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">Here is a screen shot of the wiring to the transmissi=
on From Dan Master's handy wiring diagrams.&nbsp; As you can see, there is =
a green wire (fused 12 volts) to the switch and a Green/Brown wire which fe=
eds power from the switch to the lights.&nbsp; The Green wire should be hot=
 anytime the key is on.&nbsp; The fuse that feeds it also feeds power to th=
e heater fan, wipers, gauges, turn signals so if they work you are probably=
 good.</font></div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div><font size=3D"3">Turn signals: are both lights not working or is it ju=
st one?&nbsp; If one bulb is not lighting up the other bulb will not draw e=
nough current to cause the flasher to flash.</font></div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div><font size=3D"3">On the other hand, it might just be the bulbs or bulb=
 sockets.&nbsp; The sockets are notoriously unreliable, especially when the=
y get old.&nbsp; The ground connection is the usual suspect.&nbsp; Start th=
ere.&nbsp; If you have a volt meter check for voltage on the wires where th=
ey plug onto the sockets.</font><br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
<br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

Sent: Thu, Jan 27, 2022 9:09 pm<br>

<div id=3D"yiv3079743941">Hello All,
<div><br>
</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>Thanks.</div>

<div>Bob Fabie</div>

<div><br>
</div>

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From: rmf3860 rmf3860 <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 08:11:10 -0500

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Victor,

Thank you for replying. I will switch the bullet pigtail wires as you
suggested. I was initially concerned about one of the three green wires
having a colored thread and trying to match it up correctly.

I believe that =E2=80=9Cother pigtail set=E2=80=9D is for cars with a seatb=
elt warning
module. Mine also has it but it was taped off.

Our cars are the same year and we=E2=80=99ve owned them for the same number=
 of
years (21 for me), however, I don=E2=80=99t have AC or OD.

Thanks again for your suggestion.

All be well.

Bob Fabie
=E2=80=9875 TR6

On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 6:17 AM Victor Snively <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Bob,
>
> I experienced the back-up light issue (they didn't work) when I bought th=
e
> car 22 years ago. It needed a clutch, and once I had everything ready to
> button up after reassembly, I noticed there were two green pigtails in th=
e
> harness, but discovered only one operated the back-up lights. Someone
> previous to me chose the wrong one. I simply switched the bullet connecto=
r
> from one pigtail to the other and back-up lights worked. I don't remember=
 a
> red thread, but I do remember a "dummy" pigtail, or at least the one that
> didn't juice the back-up lights. I'm fairly certain that the harness is
> original (1975) to the car, not sure what's the function of alternate
> pigtail. It's an overdrive car, but it works fine.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Regards,
> Vic Snively
> '75 TR6 w/AC
>
>
>
> As you may know from my earlier post, by TR6 is alive and running
> beautifully following an extensive engine rebuild that ended up taking a
> few years, rather than the few months I had envisioned. Life and other
> important things interfered. Imagine that=E2=80=A6
>
> I=E2=80=99m now finishing up the final details and have encountered two i=
ssues,
> probably unrelated, that I need your help in diagnosing.
>
> First: Only my left turn signal works and the hazard light doesn=E2=80=99=
t work at
> all.
>
> Second: The back-up lights don=E2=80=99t work. I=E2=80=99ve installed a n=
ew back up light
> harness. I=E2=80=99ve tried to study the wiring diagram but can=E2=80=99t=
 quite figure out
> how the 3 wires connect to the main harness=E2=80=99 3 bullet connectors =
in the
> passenger foot well area. I can see that two of the new harness wires are
> solid green and the other has a ?red? thread. The main harness wires are
> almost impossible to discern which are solid and which has a different
> color thread.
>
> Thanks.
> Bob Fabie
> Fredericksburg, VA
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<div dir=3D"auto">Victor,</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto=
">Thank you for replying. I will switch the bullet pigtail wires as you sug=
gested. I was initially concerned about one of the three green wires having=
 a colored thread and trying to match it up correctly.=C2=A0</div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I believe that =E2=80=9Cother pigtail=
 set=E2=80=9D is for cars with a seatbelt warning module. Mine also has it =
but it was taped off.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Ou=
r cars are the same year and we=E2=80=99ve owned them for the same number o=
f years (21 for me), however, I don=E2=80=99t have AC or OD.=C2=A0</div><di=
v dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Thanks again for your suggestion=
.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">All be well.</di=
v><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Bob Fabie</div><div dir=3D"=
auto">=E2=80=9875 TR6</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"=
ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 6:17 AM Victor Snively &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></=
div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-lef=
t:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"color:black;font:10pt Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Bob,
<div><br>
</div>

<div>I experienced the back-up light issue (they didn&#39;t work) when I bo=
ught the car 22 years ago. It needed a clutch, and once I had everything re=
ady to button up after reassembly, I noticed there were two green pigtails =
in the harness, but discovered only one operated the back-up lights. Someon=
e previous to me chose the wrong one. I simply switched the bullet connecto=
r from one pigtail to the other and back-up lights worked. I don&#39;t reme=
mber a red thread, but I do remember a &quot;dummy&quot; pigtail, or at lea=
st the one that didn&#39;t juice the back-up lights. I&#39;m fairly certain=
 that the harness is original (1975) to the car, not sure what&#39;s the fu=
nction of alternate pigtail. It&#39;s an overdrive car, but it works fine.<=
/div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>Regards,</div>

<div>Vic Snively</div>

<div>&#39;75 TR6 w/AC</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div><br>
<br>

<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black"><font=
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nt-size:10pt;color:black"><font size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: rmf3860 rmf3860 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_=
blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
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Sent: Thu, Jan 27, 2022 10:09 pm<br>
Subject: [6pack] Two Issues<br>
<br>

<div id=3D"m_1720457165946071876yiv8042094960">Hello All,
<div><br>
</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>I=E2=80=99m now finishing up the final details and have encountered tw=
o issues, probably unrelated, that I need your help in diagnosing.=C2=A0</d=
iv>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>First: Only my left turn signal works and the hazard light doesn=E2=80=
=99t work at all.=C2=A0</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>Thanks.</div>

<div>Bob Fabie</div>

<div><br>
</div>

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From: Victor Snively <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 15:39:29 +0000 (UTC)

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Thanks Bob. Forgot about the seatbelt module. Mine was disconnected when I =
bought the car and I left it that way.

-----Original Message-----
From: rmf3860 rmf3860 <[email-masked]>
To: Victor Snively <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Sent: Fri, Jan 28, 2022 8:11 am
Subject: Re: [6pack] Two Issues

Victor,
Thank you for replying. I will switch the bullet pigtail wires as you sugge=
sted. I was initially concerned about one of the three green wires having a=
 colored thread and trying to match it up correctly.=C2=A0
I believe that =E2=80=9Cother pigtail set=E2=80=9D is for cars with a seatb=
elt warning module. Mine also has it but it was taped off.
Our cars are the same year and we=E2=80=99ve owned them for the same number=
 of years (21 for me), however, I don=E2=80=99t have AC or OD.=C2=A0
Thanks again for your suggestion.=C2=A0
All be well.
Bob Fabie=E2=80=9875 TR6
On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 6:17 AM Victor Snively <[email-masked]> wrote:

Bob,

-----Original Message-----
From: rmf3860 rmf3860 <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thu, Jan 27, 2022 10:09 pm
Subject: [6pack] Two Issues

Hello All,

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<div style=3D"color:black;font: 10pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Thanks =
Bob. Forgot about the seatbelt module. Mine was disconnected when I bought =
the car and I left it that way.<br>
<br>
<br>

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 size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: rmf3860 rmf3860 &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: Victor Snively &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Cc: [email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Fri, Jan 28, 2022 8:11 am<br>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Two Issues<br>
<br>

<div id=3D"yiv7074960842">
<div>
<div>Victor,</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Thank you for replying. I will switch the bullet pigtail wires as you =
suggested. I was initially concerned about one of the three green wires hav=
ing a colored thread and trying to match it up correctly.&nbsp;</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>I believe that =E2=80=9Cother pigtail set=E2=80=9D is for cars with a =
seatbelt warning module. Mine also has it but it was taped off.</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Our cars are the same year and we=E2=80=99ve owned them for the same n=
umber of years (21 for me), however, I don=E2=80=99t have AC or OD.&nbsp;</=
div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Thanks again for your suggestion.&nbsp;</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>All be well.</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Bob Fabie</div>

<div>=E2=80=9875 TR6</div>

<div id=3D"yiv7074960842yqt79390" class=3D"yiv7074960842yqt2913950712">
<div><br clear=3D"none">
<div class=3D"yiv7074960842gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv7074960842gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at =
6:17 AM Victor Snively &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D=
"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-l=
eft:1ex;" class=3D"yiv7074960842gmail_quote">

<div style=3D"color:black;font:10pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Bob,

<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>

<div>Regards,</div>

<div>Vic Snively</div>

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Dave,

Thank you for taking the time to respond. As you suggested, I metered out
the green wires and found the one that was producing 12 volts. When I
connected it to the one of the wires in the harness connected to the trans
back up lights, THEY WORKED!

The two remaining issuers are: no turn signals, period. Hazards only flash
on he driver=E2=80=99s side. (Earlier I stated that I only had turn signals=
 on the
drivers side, but I was mistaken). A new turn signal module and hazard
module should arrive this weekend. Please share any other thoughts as to
the cause(s) of these issues.

Thanks again for your help.

Bob Fabie

On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 7:53 AM DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Here is a screen shot of the wiring to the transmission From Dan Master's
> handy wiring diagrams.  As you can see, there is a green wire (fused 12
> volts) to the switch and a Green/Brown wire which feeds power from the
> switch to the lights.  The Green wire should be hot anytime the key is on=
.
> The fuse that feeds it also feeds power to the heater fan, wipers, gauges=
,
> turn signals so if they work you are probably good.
>
> Turn signals: are both lights not working or is it just one?  If one bulb
> is not lighting up the other bulb will not draw enough current to cause t=
he
> flasher to flash.
>
> On the other hand, it might just be the bulbs or bulb sockets.  The
> sockets are notoriously unreliable, especially when they get old.  The
> ground connection is the usual suspect.  Start there.  If you have a volt
> meter check for voltage on the wires where they plug onto the sockets.
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<div dir=3D"auto">Dave,</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">=
Thank you for taking the time to respond. As you suggested, I metered out t=
he green wires and found the one that was producing 12 volts. When I connec=
ted it to the one of the wires in the harness connected to the trans back u=
p lights, THEY WORKED!</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">T=
he two remaining issuers are: no turn signals, period. Hazards only flash o=
n he driver=E2=80=99s side. (Earlier I stated that I only had turn signals =
on the drivers side, but I was mistaken). A new turn signal module and haza=
rd module should arrive this weekend. Please share any other thoughts as to=
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"auto">Thanks again for your help.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div di=
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Bob,

When I was restoring my 72 the rear lights did not work very well. I 
posted a query and the answer was the ground in the sockets could be 
suspect. The real problem is the original socket assemblies were poorly 
made. Anyway, I finally fixed the problem by grounding every socket 
individually and no problems since.

There used to be a replacement for the original sockets but it NLA.

Bob

On 1/28/22 7:11 PM, rmf3860 rmf3860 wrote:
> Dave,
>
> Thank you for taking the time to respond. As you suggested, I metered 
> out the green wires and found the one that was producing 12 volts. 
> When I connected it to the one of the wires in the harness connected 
> to the trans back up lights, THEY WORKED!
>
> The two remaining issuers are: no turn signals, period. Hazards only 
> flash on he driver’s side. (Earlier I stated that I only had turn 
> signals on the drivers side, but I was mistaken). A new turn signal 
> module and hazard module should arrive this weekend. Please share any 
> other thoughts as to the cause(s) of these issues.
>
> On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 7:53 AM DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked] 
>
>     Here is a screen shot of the wiring to the transmission From Dan
>     Master's handy wiring diagrams.  As you can see, there is a green
>     wire (fused 12 volts) to the switch and a Green/Brown wire which
>     feeds power from the switch to the lights.  The Green wire should
>     be hot anytime the key is on.  The fuse that feeds it also feeds
>     power to the heater fan, wipers, gauges, turn signals so if they
>     work you are probably good.
>
>     Turn signals: are both lights not working or is it just one?  If
>     one bulb is not lighting up the other bulb will not draw enough
>     current to cause the flasher to flash.
>
>     On the other hand, it might just be the bulbs or bulb sockets. 
>     The sockets are notoriously unreliable, especially when they get
>     old. The ground connection is the usual suspect.  Start there.  If
>     you have a volt meter check for voltage on the wires where they
>     plug onto the sockets.
>
>     Dave
>
>
>
>     beautifully following an extensive engine rebuild that ended up
>     taking a few years, rather than the few months I had envisioned.
>     Life and other important things interfered. Imagine that…
>
>     I’m now finishing up the final details and have encountered two
>     issues, probably unrelated, that I need your help in diagnosing.
>
>     First: Only my left turn signal works and the hazard light doesn’t
>     work at all.
>
>     Second: The back-up lights don’t work. I’ve installed a new back
>     up light harness. I’ve tried to study the wiring diagram but can’t
>     quite figure out how the 3 wires connect to the main harness’ 3
>     bullet connectors in the passenger foot well area. I can see that
>     two of the new harness wires are solid green and the other has a
>     ?red? thread. The main harness wires are almost impossible to
>     discern which are solid and which has a different color thread.
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    <p>Bob,</p>
    <p>When I was restoring my 72 the rear lights did not work very
      well. I posted a query and the answer was the ground in the
      sockets could be suspect. The real problem is the original socket
      assemblies were poorly made. Anyway, I finally fixed the problem
      by grounding every socket individually and no problems since.</p>
    <p>There used to be a replacement for the original sockets but it
      NLA. <br>
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    <p>Bob<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/28/22 7:11 PM, rmf3860 rmf3860
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      <div dir="auto">Dave,</div>
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      <div dir="auto">Thank you for taking the time to respond. As you
        suggested, I metered out the green wires and found the one that
        was producing 12 volts. When I connected it to the one of the
        wires in the harness connected to the trans back up lights, THEY
        WORKED!</div>
      <div dir="auto"><br>
      </div>
      <div dir="auto">The two remaining issuers are: no turn signals,
        period. Hazards only flash on he driver’s side. (Earlier I
        stated that I only had turn signals on the drivers side, but I
        was mistaken). A new turn signal module and hazard module should
        arrive this weekend. Please share any other thoughts as to the
        cause(s) of these issues.</div>
      <div dir="auto"><br>
      </div>
      <div dir="auto">Thanks again for your help.</div>
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      <div dir="auto">Bob Fabie</div>
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            AM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
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              <div><font size="3">Here is a screen shot of the wiring to
                  the transmission From Dan Master's handy wiring
                  diagrams.  As you can see, there is a green wire
                  (fused 12 volts) to the switch and a Green/Brown wire
                  which feeds power from the switch to the lights.  The
                  Green wire should be hot anytime the key is on.  The
                  fuse that feeds it also feeds power to the heater fan,
                  wipers, gauges, turn signals so if they work you are
                  probably good.</font></div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div><font size="3">Turn signals: are both lights not
                  working or is it just one?  If one bulb is not
                  lighting up the other bulb will not draw enough
                  current to cause the flasher to flash.</font></div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div><font size="3">On the other hand, it might just be
                  the bulbs or bulb sockets.  The sockets are
                  notoriously unreliable, especially when they get old. 
                  The ground connection is the usual suspect.  Start
                  there.  If you have a volt meter check for voltage on
                  the wires where they plug onto the sockets.</font><br>
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                    All,
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                    <div>As you may know from my earlier post, by TR6 is
                      alive and running beautifully following an
                      extensive engine rebuild that ended up taking a
                      few years, rather than the few months I had
                      envisioned. Life and other important things
                      interfered. Imagine that…</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>I’m now finishing up the final details and have
                      encountered two issues, probably unrelated, that I
                      need your help in diagnosing. </div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>First: Only my left turn signal works and the
                      hazard light doesn’t work at all. </div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Second: The back-up lights don’t work. I’ve
                      installed a new back up light harness. I’ve tried
                      to study the wiring diagram but can’t quite figure
                      out how the 3 wires connect to the main harness’ 3
                      bullet connectors in the passenger foot well area.
                      I can see that two of the new harness wires are
                      solid green and the other has a ?red? thread. The
                      main harness wires are almost impossible to
                      discern which are solid and which has a different
                      color thread.</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Can anyone help me sort out these issues?</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Thanks.</div>
                    <div>Bob Fabie</div>
                    <div>Fredericksburg, VA</div>
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 OK.=C2=A0 No turn signals at all may be the hazard switch.=C2=A0 The hazar=
d switch disconnects the turn signal flasher.=C2=A0 If those contacts are d=
odgy the turn signals won't work.=C2=A0 If the contacts for the right side =
are dodgy they won't work in the hazard mode.=C2=A0 I'd start there.
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From: rmf3860 rmf3860 <[email-masked]>
To: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Sent: Fri, Jan 28, 2022 6:11 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Two Issues

Dave,
Thank you for taking the time to respond. As you suggested, I metered out t=
he green wires and found the one that was producing 12 volts. When I connec=
ted it to the one of the wires in the harness connected to the trans back u=
p lights, THEY WORKED!
The two remaining issuers are: no turn signals, period. Hazards only flash =
on he driver=E2=80=99s side. (Earlier I stated that I only had turn signals=
 on the drivers side, but I was mistaken). A new turn signal module and haz=
ard module should arrive this weekend. Please share any other thoughts as t=
o the cause(s) of these issues.
Thanks again for your help.
Bob Fabie
On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 7:53 AM DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> wrote:

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Subject: [6pack] Two Issues

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witch.&nbsp; The hazard switch disconnects the turn signal flasher.&nbsp; I=
f those contacts are dodgy the turn signals won't work.&nbsp; If the contac=
ts for the right side are dodgy they won't work in the hazard mode.&nbsp; I=
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To: DAVID MASSEY &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
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Subject: Re: [6pack] Two Issues<br>
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<div>Dave,</div>

<div>Thank you for taking the time to respond. As you suggested, I metered =
out the green wires and found the one that was producing 12 volts. When I c=
onnected it to the one of the wires in the harness connected to the trans b=
ack up lights, THEY WORKED!</div>

<div>The two remaining issuers are: no turn signals, period. Hazards only f=
lash on he driver=E2=80=99s side. (Earlier I stated that I only had turn si=
gnals on the drivers side, but I was mistaken). A new turn signal module an=
d hazard module should arrive this weekend. Please share any other thoughts=
 as to the cause(s) of these issues.</div>

<div>Thanks again for your help.</div>

<div>Bob Fabie</div>

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<div>Thanks.</div>

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Thanks, Dave. I=E2=80=99ll start by replacing the hazard and turn signal re=
lays
which should arrive today or tomorrow.

Bob

On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 8:39 AM DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> wrote:

> OK.  No turn signals at all may be the hazard switch.  The hazard switch
> disconnects the turn signal flasher.  If those contacts are dodgy the tur=
n
> signals won't work.  If the contacts for the right side are dodgy they
> won't work in the hazard mode.  I'd start there.
>
> Dave
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<div dir=3D"auto">Thanks, Dave. I=E2=80=99ll start by replacing the hazard =
and turn signal relays which should arrive today or tomorrow.=C2=A0</div><d=
iv dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Bob</div><div><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at=
 8:39 AM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">dave1massey=
@cs.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">
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lvetica,sans-serif;color:black">
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le=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">OK.=C2=A0 No=
 turn signals at all may be the hazard switch.=C2=A0 The hazard switch disc=
onnects the turn signal flasher.=C2=A0 If those contacts are dodgy the turn=
 signals won&#39;t work.=C2=A0 If the contacts for the right side are dodgy=
 they won&#39;t work in the hazard mode.=C2=A0 I&#39;d start there.</font><=
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<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica">Thank you for taking the time to=
 respond. As you suggested, I metered out the green wires and found the one=
 that was producing 12 volts. When I connected it to the one of the wires i=
n the harness connected to the trans back up lights, THEY WORKED!</div>

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<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica">The two remaining issuers are: n=
o turn signals, period. Hazards only flash on he driver=E2=80=99s side. (Ea=
rlier I stated that I only had turn signals on the drivers side, but I was =
mistaken). A new turn signal module and hazard module should arrive this we=
ekend. Please share any other thoughts as to the cause(s) of these issues.<=
/div>

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<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica">Thanks again for your help.</div=

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e=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Here is a scr=
een shot of the wiring to the transmission From Dan Master&#39;s handy wiri=
ng diagrams.=C2=A0 As you can see, there is a green wire (fused 12 volts) t=
o the switch and a Green/Brown wire which feeds power from the switch to th=
e lights.=C2=A0 The Green wire should be hot anytime the key is on.=C2=A0 T=
he fuse that feeds it also feeds power to the heater fan, wipers, gauges, t=
urn signals so if they work you are probably good.</font></div>

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ghting up the other bulb will not draw enough current to cause the flasher =
to flash.</font></div>

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<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica">As you may know from my earlier =
post, by TR6 is alive and running beautifully following an extensive engine=
 rebuild that ended up taking a few years, rather than the few months I had=
 envisioned. Life and other important things interfered. Imagine that=E2=80=
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<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica">I=E2=80=99m now finishing up the=
 final details and have encountered two issues, probably unrelated, that I =
need your help in diagnosing.=C2=A0</div>

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<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica">First: Only my left turn signal =
works and the hazard light doesn=E2=80=99t work at all.=C2=A0</div>

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<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica">Second: The back-up lights don=
=E2=80=99t work. I=E2=80=99ve installed a new back up light harness. I=E2=
=80=99ve tried to study the wiring diagram but can=E2=80=99t quite figure o=
ut how the 3 wires connect to the main harness=E2=80=99 3 bullet connectors=
 in the passenger foot well area. I can see that two of the new harness wir=
es are solid green and the other has a ?red? thread. The main harness wires=
 are almost impossible to discern which are solid and which has a different=
 color thread.</div>

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<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica">Can anyone help me sort out thes=
e issues?</div>

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<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica">Thanks.</div>

<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica">Bob Fabie</div>

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