Subject: Re: [6pack] Hi Torque Starter + Progress Pix

From: Richard Lindsay <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 07:34:43 -0500

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Beautiful work!

I installed a high torque, gear reduction starter on my E-Type's big V12
and have found it to perform well. A couple of observations:

- It's really loud when running.

- We had to add shims to back the bendix away from the flywheel as it
otherwise sometimes hit the teeth with the engine running!

- The starter has an adapter plate, allowing the Japanese unit to mate to
the application. In my car's case, the Jaguar V12. That plate has a lot of
mounting holes so the starter can be rotated about its longitudinal axis.
Doing so allows the installer to orient the drive motor away from the
exhaust and it's high heat.

   So with no direct evidence of fit on the Triumph L6, I just write that
the starter orientation is adjustable. With 20:20 hindsight, I would not do
this upgrade again. At almost four times the cost of a properly rebuilt
Lucas starter, the net gain evaporates, if ever there.

Rick - TR6 now gone :-/

On Fri, Jul 9, 2021, 7:20 AM rmf3860 rmf3860 <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Two Questions:
> What=E2=80=99s your experience using a hi torque starter?
> Does it interfere with headers?
>
> Finished the motor last night, and now just waiting for the shop to finis=
h
> rebuilding the transmission. Getting close.
>
> Bob Fabie
> Fredericksburg, VA
>

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div>Beautiful work!<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">I installed a high torque, gear reduction starter on my E-Type&#3=
9;s big V12 and have found it to perform well. A couple of observations:</d=
iv><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">- It&#39;s really loud whe=
n running.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">- We had to a=
dd shims to back the bendix away from the flywheel as it otherwise sometime=
s hit the teeth with the engine running!</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><=
div dir=3D"auto">- The starter has an adapter plate, allowing the Japanese =
unit to mate to the application. In my car&#39;s case, the Jaguar V12. That=
 plate has a lot of mounting holes so the starter can be rotated about its =
longitudinal axis. Doing so allows the installer to orient the drive motor =
away from the exhaust and it&#39;s high heat.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></=
div><div dir=3D"auto">=C2=A0 =C2=A0So with no direct evidence of fit on the=
 Triumph L6, I just write that the starter orientation is adjustable. With =
20:20 hindsight, I would not do this upgrade again. At almost four times th=
e cost of a properly rebuilt Lucas starter, the net gain evaporates, if eve=
r there.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Rick - TR6 now =
gone :-/</div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"=
gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 9, 2021, 7:20 AM rmf3860 rmf3860 &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc s=
olid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Two Questions:</div><div dir=3D"au=
to">What=E2=80=99s your experience using a hi torque starter?</div><div dir=
=3D"auto">Does it interfere with headers?</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div>=
<div dir=3D"auto">Finished the motor last night, and now just waiting for t=
he shop to finish rebuilding the transmission. Getting close.</div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Bob Fabie</div><div dir=3D"auto">Fred=
ericksburg, VA</div>
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Check in with Ted Schumacher =E2=80=93 http://tsimportedautomotive.com/  =
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out of the barn and do a makeover!

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Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 19:23:58 +0000 (UTC)

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 The starter I got from TSI fit just fine but I don't have headers.=C2=A0 T=
he starter for the TR8 has a generous amount of clearance from the headers.=
=C2=A0 I believe most starters are same size or smaller than the direct dri=
ve versions that were OEM so if your old starter cleared the new one should=
.
There are different versions so if you get on that doesn't fit send it back=
 and try one from another supplier.
Oh, they work great, BTW.
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Dave=20

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-----Original Message-----
From: rmf3860 rmf3860 <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Sent: Fri, Jul 9, 2021 7:16 am
Subject: [6pack] Hi Torque Starter + Progress Pix

Two Questions:What=E2=80=99s your experience using a hi torque starter?Does=
 it interfere with headers?
Finished the motor last night, and now just waiting for the shop to finish =
rebuilding the transmission. Getting close.
Bob FabieFredericksburg, VA

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<div style=3D"color:black;font: 12pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
<div> <font size=3D"3">The starter I got from TSI fit just fine but I don't=
 have headers.&nbsp; The starter for the TR8 has a generous amount of clear=
ance from the headers.&nbsp; I believe most starters are same size or small=
er than the direct drive versions that were OEM so if your old starter clea=
red the new one should.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">There are different versions so if you get on that do=
esn't fit send it back and try one from another supplier.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">Oh, they work great, BTW.</font><br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
<br>
</div>

<div> <br>
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To: [email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Fri, Jul 9, 2021 7:16 am<br>
Subject: [6pack] Hi Torque Starter + Progress Pix<br>
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<div>Two Questions:</div>

<div>What=E2=80=99s your experience using a hi torque starter?</div>

<div>Does it interfere with headers?</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>Finished the motor last night, and now just waiting for the shop to fi=
nish rebuilding the transmission. Getting close.</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>Bob Fabie</div>

<div>Fredericksburg, VA</div>

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Richard, David, Greg, Janet, Alex, Dave et.al.

Thank you for your comments and suggestions. I=E2=80=99m talking with Ted a=
t TSI
and I think he will get me what I need.

Thanks again.
Bob Fabie

On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 3:24 PM DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> wrote:

> The starter I got from TSI fit just fine but I don't have headers.  The
> starter for the TR8 has a generous amount of clearance from the headers. =
 I
> believe most starters are same size or smaller than the direct drive
> versions that were OEM so if your old starter cleared the new one should.
>
> There are different versions so if you get on that doesn't fit send it
> back and try one from another supplier.
>
> Dave
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<div><div dir=3D"auto">Richard, David, Greg, Janet, Alex, Dave <a href=3D"h=
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ir=3D"auto">Thank you for your comments and suggestions. I=E2=80=99m talkin=
g with Ted at TSI and I think he will get me what I need.=C2=A0</div><div d=
ir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Thanks again.=C2=A0</div><div dir=
=3D"auto">Bob Fabie=C2=A0</div><div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><di=
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SEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">dave1massey=
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<div> <font size=3D"3">The starter I got from TSI fit just fine but I don&#=
39;t have headers.=C2=A0 The starter for the TR8 has a generous amount of c=
learance from the headers.=C2=A0 I believe most starters are same size or s=
maller than the direct drive versions that were OEM so if your old starter =
cleared the new one should.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">There are different versions so if you get on that do=
esn&#39;t fit send it back and try one from another supplier.</font></div>

<div> <br>
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