Subject: Re: [6pack] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

From: Victor Snively <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 18:30:10 +0000 (UTC)

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Dennis,=C2=A0
Had the same issue with mine. Follow the brown wire from the alternator thr=
ough the firewall. The insulation may have worn through and grounded, or th=
ere's a connection issue under the dash. There's also a black wire that gro=
unds through one of the threaded gauge mounts, the ones with the serrated n=
uts. That was my issue, it had worked itself loose.
Good luck,Vic Snively'75 TR6

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shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14=
.6 as per Dan Master=E2=80=99s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same t=
hing happens.=C2=A0 Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit =E2=80=93 sam=
e thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters =E2=80=93 a=
ll showed 12 volts. =C2=A0Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.=
=C2=A0 What=E2=80=99s wrong??Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6 ____________________=
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<div style=3D"color:black;font: 10pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Dennis,=
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<div>Had the same issue with mine. Follow the brown wire from the alternato=
r through the firewall. The insulation may have worn through and grounded, =
or there's a connection issue under the dash. There's also a black wire tha=
t grounds through one of the threaded gauge mounts, the ones with the serra=
ted nuts. That was my issue, it had worked itself loose.</div>

<div><br>
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<div>Good luck,</div>

<div>Vic Snively</div>

<div>'75 TR6<br>
<br>
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s =E2=80=93 Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and took car to s=
hop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.=
6 as per Dan Master=E2=80=99s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same th=
ing happens.&nbsp; Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit =E2=80=93 same=
 thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters =E2=80=93 al=
l showed 12 volts. &nbsp;Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.&n=
bsp; What=E2=80=99s wrong??</div>

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Ron =E2=80=93=20

    Light comes on normally when the key is turned and goes off when the =
motor starts.

Dennis

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From: Ron Cirillo <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 5:07 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: FW: [6pack] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

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See my answer below.

=20

From: Ron Cirillo=20
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 5:05 PM
Subject: RE: [6pack] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

=20

Just a quick note=E2=80=94is the charging light on brightly when you =
turn the key.  The initial flow through the field of the alternator goes =
through the light.  If you have a burnt out bulb or the wrong one, you =
cannot get initial field current.  If you do not get the initial field =
current the alternator will not work.

=20

Ron

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From: 6pack <[email-masked] =
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: [6pack] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

=20

Dennis, =20

=20

Had the same issue with mine. Follow the brown wire from the alternator =
through the firewall. The insulation may have worn through and grounded, =
or there's a connection issue under the dash. There's also a black wire =
that grounds through one of the threaded gauge mounts, the ones with the =
serrated nuts. That was my issue, it had worked itself loose.

=20

Good luck,

Vic Snively

'75 TR6

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Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2020 12:03 pm
Subject: [6pack] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

   Here=E2=80=99s a synopsis =E2=80=93 Almost new battery went dead. =
Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not =
charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master=E2=80=99s =
book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens.  Swap =
alternator for a second rebuilt unit =E2=80=93 same thing, battery is =
not being charged. Tried 3 different meters =E2=80=93 all showed 12 =
volts.  Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.  What=E2=80=99s =
wrong??

Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6=20

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ron =
=E2=80=93 <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Light comes on normally when =
the key is turned and goes off when the motor starts.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Dennis<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Ron Cirillo =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September =
30, 2020 5:07 PM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> =
FW: [6pack] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 =
TR6<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;color:#1F497D'>See my answer =
below.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div=
><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt =
0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Ron Cirillo =
<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 30, 2020 5:05 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
Victor Snively &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:<=
/b> RE: [6pack] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 =
TR6<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Just a quick note=E2=80=94is =
the charging light on brightly when you turn the key.&nbsp; The initial =
flow through the field of the alternator goes through the light.&nbsp; =
If you have a burnt out bulb or the wrong one, you cannot get initial =
field current.&nbsp; If you do not get the initial field current the =
alternator will not work.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div=
 style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> 6pack &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Victor Snively<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, =
September 30, 2020 2:30 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b=
>Cc:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subje=
ct:</b> Re: [6pack] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 =
TR6<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Den=
nis,&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Had=
 the same issue with mine. Follow the brown wire from the alternator =
through the firewall. The insulation may have worn through and grounded, =
or there's a connection issue under the dash. There's also a black wire =
that grounds through one of the threaded gauge mounts, the ones with the =
serrated nuts. That was my issue, it had worked itself =
loose.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Goo=
d luck,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Vic=
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 TR6<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;&nbsp; Here=E2=80=99s a synopsis =E2=80=93 Almost new battery went =
dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is =
not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan =
Master=E2=80=99s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing =
happens.&nbsp; Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit =E2=80=93 same =
thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters =E2=80=93 =
all showed 12 volts. &nbsp;Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt =
alternators.&nbsp; What=E2=80=99s =
wrong??<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Den=
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Actually, no they don't have the facilities.  However, I have taken the 2nd
alternator to a local auto electric shop where they tested it and it's only
putting out a little over 13 volts which I do not believe is enough.  I plan
to retrieve my original alternator and have it re-built (which I should have
done in the first place).

Dennis

From: Jim Henningsen <[email-masked]> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 12:31 PM
To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: RE: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

Can't the parts place test the alternator off the car with their machine?
Jim Henningsen

From: Triumphs <[email-masked]
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 12:04 PM
Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

   Here's a synopsis - Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and
took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12
volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master's book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the
same thing happens.  Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit - same thing,
battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters - all showed 12
volts.  Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.  What's wrong??

Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6 

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class=3DMsoNormal>Actually, no they don&#8217;t have the =
facilities.&nbsp; However, I have taken the 2<sup>nd</sup> alternator to =
a local auto electric shop where they tested it and it&#8217;s only =
putting out a little over 13 volts which I do not believe is enough. =
&nbsp;I plan to retrieve my original alternator and have it re-built =
(which I should have done in the first place).<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Dennis<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Jim Henningsen =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 30, 2020 =
12:31 PM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]; =
[email-masked]<br><b>Cc:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [TR] Alternator not charging =
battery - 1976 TR6<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Can&#8217;t =
the parts place test the alternator off the car with their =
machine?&nbsp; Jim Henningsen<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
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ct:</b> [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 =
TR6<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
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Here&#8217;s a synopsis &#8211; Almost new battery went dead. Charged =
battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging =
battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master&#8217;s book). Buy =
rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens.&nbsp; Swap alternator for =
a second rebuilt unit &#8211; same thing, battery is not being charged. =
Tried 3 different meters &#8211; all showed 12 volts. &nbsp;Hard to =
believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.&nbsp; What&#8217;s =
wrong??<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6 =
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 On the 76 TR6 (well all the CF series cars) the alternator output (brown) =
wire connects to the power tap on the positive battery positive cable with =
a 3/8 QC connector.=C2=A0 If this connector is not making good connection e=
ven a good alternator will not charge the battery.=C2=A0 Check that out bef=
ore you spend any more money.
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.6 as per Dan Master=E2=80=99s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same t=
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e thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters =E2=80=93 a=
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<div> <font size=3D"3">On the 76 TR6 (well all the CF series cars) the alte=
rnator output (brown) wire connects to the power tap on the </font><font si=
ze=3D"3"><font size=3D"3">positive </font>battery positive cable with a 3/8=
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s =E2=80=93 Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and took car to s=
hop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.=
6 as per Dan Master=E2=80=99s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same th=
ing happens.&nbsp; Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit =E2=80=93 same=
 thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters =E2=80=93 al=
l showed 12 volts. &nbsp;Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.&n=
bsp; What=E2=80=99s wrong??</div>

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Check the ground cable connections at both the firewall and the engine block=
. Dirty contacts at either will drop the charge to the battery significantly=
.=20
Dick=20

> On Sep 30, 2020, at 2:09 PM, <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]> w=
rote:
>=20
> Ron =E2=80=93
>     Light comes on normally when the key is turned and goes off when the m=
otor starts.
> To: Victor Snively <[email-masked]>
> Just a quick note=E2=80=94is the charging light on brightly when you turn t=
he key.  The initial flow through the field of the alternator goes through t=
he light.  If you have a burnt out bulb or the wrong one, you cannot get ini=
tial field current.  If you do not get the initial field current the alterna=
tor will not work.
> =20
> Ron
> =20
> From: 6pack <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Victor Snively
> Dennis,=20
> Had the same issue with mine. Follow the brown wire from the alternator th=
rough the firewall. The insulation may have worn through and grounded, or th=
ere's a connection issue under the dash. There's also a black wire that grou=
nds through one of the threaded gauge mounts, the ones with the serrated nut=
s. That was my issue, it had worked itself loose.
>    Here=E2=80=99s a synopsis =E2=80=93 Almost new battery went dead. Charg=
ed battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging batt=
ery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master=E2=80=99s book). Buy rebuilt a=
lternator and the same thing happens.  Swap alternator for a second rebuilt u=
nit =E2=80=93 same thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different me=
ters =E2=80=93 all showed 12 volts.  Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alt=
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ections at both the firewall and the engine block. Dirty contacts at either w=
ill drop the charge to the battery significantly.&nbsp;</div><div>Dick&nbsp;=
</div><div><br>On Sep 30, 2020, at 2:09 PM, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dctr6@opto=
nline.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dctr6@optonline=
.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"ci=
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oNormal">Ron =E2=80=93 <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;Light comes on normally when the key is turned and goes off when th=
e motor starts.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dennis<o:p></o:p></p><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;bor=
der-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><b>From:</b> Ron Cirillo &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">ci=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 30, 2020=
 5:07 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">dctr6@optonlin=
e.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> FW: [6pack] Alternator not charging battery - 1=
976 TR6<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16.0pt;color:#1F497D">See m=
y answer below.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:16.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D=
"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Ron Cirillo <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, Septe=
mber 30, 2020 5:05 PM<br><b>To:</b> Victor Snively &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:vsn=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [6pack] Alter=
nator not charging battery - 1976 TR6<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:16.0pt;color:#1F497D">Just a quick note=E2=80=94is the charging light on=
 brightly when you turn the key.&nbsp; The initial flow through the field of=
 the alternator goes through the light.&nbsp; If you have a burnt out bulb o=
r the wrong one, you cannot get initial field current.&nbsp; If you do not g=
et the initial field current the alternator will not work.<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o=
:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16=
.0pt;color:#1F497D">Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:16.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div styl=
e=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> 6pack &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:6pack-bounces=
@autox.team.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Vi=
ctor Snively<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 30, 2020 2:30 PM<br><b>To:=
</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>; <a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Cc:</b=
> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Sub=
ject:</b> Re: [6pack] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6<o:p></o:p><=
/p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-seri=
f;color:black">Dennis,&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;=
color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;colo=
r:black">Had the same issue with mine. Follow the brown wire from the altern=
ator through the firewall. The insulation may have worn through and grounded=
, or there's a connection issue under the dash. There's also a black wire th=
at grounds through one of the threaded gauge mounts, the ones with the serra=
ted nuts. That was my issue, it had worked itself loose.<o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Good luck,<o:p></o:p></span></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Vic Snively<o:p></o:p></span></p><=
/div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">'75 T=
R6<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:1=
2.0pt"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-se=
rif;color:black">-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href=3D"mailto:dctr6=
@optonline.net">[email-masked]</a><br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@au=
tox.team.net">[email-masked]</a><br>Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:6pack@aut=
ox.team.net">[email-masked]</a><br>Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2020 12:03 pm<br=
>Subject: [6pack] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p><div id=3D"yiv8018618331"><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:blac=
k">&nbsp;&nbsp; Here=E2=80=99s a synopsis =E2=80=93 Almost new battery went d=
ead. Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not cha=
rging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master=E2=80=99s book). Bu=
y rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens.&nbsp; Swap alternator for a=
 second rebuilt unit =E2=80=93 same thing, battery is not being charged. Tri=
ed 3 different meters =E2=80=93 all showed 12 volts. &nbsp;Hard to believe I=
 got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.&nbsp; What=E2=80=99s wrong??<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6 <=
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I will third checking the wires, I had a known good alternator and tried a
couple different voltage regulators (early Lucas with external regulator)
before I figured out the plug was broken, and one of the wires just pushed
out instead of pushing on.

Greg Lemon
TR250

On Wed, Sep 30, 2020, 7:02 PM Brian Kemp <[email-masked]> wrote:

> I second checking the wires.  Had a problem on a weekend road trip where
> one of the smaller wires in the plug that goes into the alternator broke.
> Not fun trying to pry out the connector from the plug and uncrimp it with
> minimal tools.  With the car at home, give each wire a tug to make sure
> they are all secure.
>
> As to rebuilds, I don't have faith is most rebuilders.  My rebuilt TR6
> starter lasted a full week before failing.  I think they are just out for=
 a
> quick turn.
>
> Brian
>
> On 9/30/2020 2:31 PM, DAVID MASSEY wrote:
>
> On the 76 TR6 (well all the CF series cars) the alternator output (brown)
> wire connects to the power tap on the positive battery positive cable
> with a 3/8 QC connector.  If this connector is not making good connection
> even a good alternator will not charge the battery.  Check that out befor=
e
> you spend any more money.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>    Here=E2=80=99s a synopsis =E2=80=93 Almost new battery went dead. Char=
ged battery and
> volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master=E2=80=99s book). Buy rebuilt alternator=
 and the
> same thing happens.  Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit =E2=80=93 =
same
> thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters =E2=80=93 a=
ll showed
> 12 volts.  Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.  What=E2=80=
=99s wrong??
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<div dir=3D"auto">I will third checking the wires, I had a known good alter=
nator and tried a couple different voltage regulators (early Lucas with ext=
ernal regulator) before I figured out the plug was broken, and one of the w=
ires just pushed out instead of pushing on.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div=
 dir=3D"auto">Greg Lemon</div><div dir=3D"auto">TR250</div><div dir=3D"auto=
"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"=
gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 30, 2020, 7:02 PM Brian Kemp &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid=
;padding-left:1ex">
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   =20
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  <div>
    I second checking the wires.=C2=A0 Had a problem on a weekend road trip
    where one of the smaller wires in the plug that goes into the
    alternator broke.=C2=A0 Not fun trying to pry out the connector from th=
e
    plug and uncrimp it with minimal tools.=C2=A0 With the car at home, giv=
e
    each wire a tug to make sure they are all secure.<br>
    <br>
    As to rebuilds, I don&#39;t have faith is most rebuilders.=C2=A0 My reb=
uilt
    TR6 starter lasted a full week before failing.=C2=A0 I think they are
    just out for a quick turn.<br>
    <br>
    Brian<br>
    <br>
    <div>On 9/30/2020 2:31 PM, DAVID MASSEY
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
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      <div style=3D"color:black;font:12pt Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
        <div> <font size=3D"3">On the 76 TR6 (well all the CF series
            cars) the alternator output (brown) wire connects to the
            power tap on the </font><font size=3D"3"><font size=3D"3">posit=
ive
            </font>battery positive cable with a 3/8 QC connector.=C2=A0 If
            this connector is not making good connection even a good
            alternator will not charge the battery.=C2=A0 Check that out
            before you spend any more money.</font><br>
        </div>
        <div> <br>
        </div>
        <div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
          <br>
        </div>
        <div> <br>
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                <div>=C2=A0=C2=A0 Here=E2=80=99s a synopsis
                  =E2=80=93 Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery a=
nd
                  took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not
                  charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan
                  Master=E2=80=99s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the sa=
me
                  thing happens.=C2=A0 Swap alternator for a second rebuilt
                  unit =E2=80=93 same thing, battery is not being charged. =
Tried
                  3 different meters =E2=80=93 all showed 12 volts.=C2=A0 H=
ard to
                  believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.=C2=A0 What=E2=80=
=99s
                  wrong??</div>
                <div>Dennis Culligan,
                  1976 TR6 </div>
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