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Sun, 9 Sep 2018 23:11:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa11-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa11-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [68.178.252.111]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B6832588C8B for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Sun, 9 Sep 2018 13:49:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from PatrickPC ([96.127.197.107]) by :SMTPAUTH: with ESMTPA id z5hufqd5t8Luqz5hvfQJMw; Sun, 09 Sep 2018 12:49:19 -0700 To: <6pack@autox.team.net> References: <1932255982.501383414.1536469795593.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 15:49:16 -0400 Thread-Index: AQJb2Oyb9ACMisMMHgEnMK2j3mwppgHmi21qo8oFATA= Content-Language: en-us Ap/Nka25ijKt66KHKss/Es+zVcI0OnZ7Mopd8myt456/y4pcD01A+1WA Subject: Re: [6pack] fuel problem From: Patrick Bitton via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Thank you everyone for your suggestions. Indeed the needle was stuck. I drained the gas from the carbs and blew some WD-40 and tapped the bowls with a small wrench and it work. Needless to say that when I changed the oil, the viscosity of the oil was like water because of all the gas that made its way into the engine. However, the car is now running REALLY rough. When I give gas, it start to putter and I have to pump the gas to get the revs up and then it will die. I never had that problem. What can this be? Thanks, Patrick Bitton _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 11 20:36:04 2018 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 497132589DA3 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2018 20:36:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa06-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.106]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEAA925882B3 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Tue, 11 Sep 2018 05:52:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DESKTOP9E9KOPR ([174.230.2.157]) by :SMTPAUTH: with ESMTPSA id zhDIfAupHaj2ozhDJfdF6V; Tue, 11 Sep 2018 04:52:14 -0700 To: "'Patrick Bitton'" , <6pack@autox.team.net> References: <1932255982.501383414.1536469795593.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <04c501d44876$31a3b4a0$94eb1de0$@tr-6.net> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 07:52:15 -0400 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AQJb2Oyb9ACMisMMHgEnMK2j3mwppgHmi21qAuNKwFejtYpzAA== NJtzUKFpgbJ962dxMzepjtzfgta7HVo1Hiyxirmpc7Yrl7iS8ZRTgVH7QwMi072tkmkr4ZW5CQscMjGHGGwXVst3VrXTXRCRKA8= Subject: Re: [6pack] fuel problem From: Andrew Uprichard via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Maybe I am missing something (not uncommon), but I wouldn't have thought a stuck needle valve would result in gas being dumped into the engine. If this is happening, I would think there is a problem with the gas pump. I don't know the TR6, but I imagine the mechanism is the same as the earlier cars with a rubber diaphragm which can leak. Do you think the problem may be your pump? Andrew Uprichard Jackson, Michigan -----Original Message----- From: 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Patrick Bitton via 6pack Sent: Sunday, September 9, 2018 3:49 PM To: 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] fuel problem Thank you everyone for your suggestions. Indeed the needle was stuck. I drained the gas from the carbs and blew some WD-40 and tapped the bowls with a small wrench and it work. Needless to say that when I changed the oil, the viscosity of the oil was like water because of all the gas that made its way into the engine. However, the car is now running REALLY rough. When I give gas, it start to putter and I have to pump the gas to get the revs up and then it will die. I never had that problem. What can this be? Thanks, Patrick Bitton _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/auprichard@uprichard.net _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 12 10:18:23 2018 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E6B2589FC1 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 10:18:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from NAM04-SN1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-oln040092011076.outbound.protection.outlook.com [40.92.11.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD1F2587E2B for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Tue, 11 Sep 2018 20:35:16 -0600 (MDT) s=selector1; 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The needle valve in the float bowl (not the mixing needle and jet) is what sends unneeded fuel back to the tank. If the needle valve in the float boat sticks open, or the float(s) get a hole in them and cease to float, fuel will certainly flood the carb throat Colin 75-sold :-( ----- Original Message ----- From: 6pack-request@autox.team.net To: 6pack@autox.team.net Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 12:00:01 -0600 (MDT) Subject: 6pack Digest, Vol 46, Issue 9 Send 6pack mailing list submissions to 6pack@autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to 6pack-request@autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at 6pack-owner@autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of 6pack digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: fuel problem (Andrew Uprichard) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 07:52:15 -0400 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: "'Patrick Bitton'" , <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] fuel problem Maybe I am missing something (not uncommon), but I wouldn't have thought a stuck needle valve would result in gas being dumped into the engine. If this is happening, I would think there is a problem with the gas pump. I don't know the TR6, but I imagine the mechanism is the same as the earlier cars with a rubber diaphragm which can leak. Do you think the problem may be your pump? Andrew Uprichard Jackson, Michigan -----Original Message----- From: 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Patrick Bitton via 6pack Sent: Sunday, September 9, 2018 3:49 PM To: 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] fuel problem Thank you everyone for your suggestions. Indeed the needle was stuck. I drained the gas from the carbs and blew some WD-40 and tapped the bowls with a small wrench and it work. Needless to say that when I changed the oil, the viscosity of the oil was like water because of all the gas that made its way into the engine. However, the car is now running REALLY rough. When I give gas, it start to putter and I have to pump the gas to get the revs up and then it will die. I never had that problem. What can this be? Thanks, Patrick Bitton _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/auprichard@uprichard.net ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ 6pack mailing list 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack ------------------------------ End of 6pack Digest, Vol 46, Issue 9 ************************************ _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 13 13:08:22 2018 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD4E258ACD3 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2018 13:08:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from sonic310-13.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com (sonic310-13.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com [74.6.135.123]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3DE2589A89 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Thu, 13 Sep 2018 05:46:00 -0600 (MDT) t=1536839149; bh=9eFE3iUQpNEnqwgSGIWD7kGFic6tMnDx50bLXYVC8ds=; h=From:Date:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:To:From:Subject; b=tTBZV0LuzyF9syM9Mo9sGU6ByNTLnAA9HLqj00jLNl3mUQ9RnvcFMkEXLqg3P1h/TU8ubirph6/M4z0sQeLq0HY2GU7xVYOrj4sg00BrA0xhYJ8fLtksR3XOZgfEYpwVBtz7z4i7hoiC0oGW7up6Zfs/a6ZT62Gs8T/R240uhMNDVEU9/mSq/13F6jd4/aYzWzy3dhyGLTqjIuEvj4z53riSfcbY4AmnRPDklIlqyPS5ik7XHYwT9/x33Mi9l05eGwu2RIKDcLSImMo/TbZDr0NBNdvB+owwf5aoqZUqCJW7GKQc0fGensqpN0DDNNt4zURVLZ0wXmu2Df5+4HIOVA== yin3o16Re2wWmh8oXW_9foSjOp7DYHuKBdiaZWs8cQ3Mb7wj5_8hYhjBXdgL9dTQLUzJUbaLIREh GmLa9CeR6fMXItVJT0Z2ES5xjCoBpozNeoMZhnM0abTEryzsPBiYX4t8Ot3Gz_OrwhYM6G4VbY7o UZVbDO5BAbtBwljyYUIrpSV2LINgEHtN59oyzIH8jw5mdjx9TGVHxIAeZEYw._QoAGbmA2W1KJYW UDu5wEO99nrX.YHSHQMRDLrFFS44Ww0fyQwWWDnxOea_D3ZAPyZnK3XNdEXOw1EZtYn4.TozSJdt tMT0HHOSxQAyXC5LejOEtFTalV_WhvezwFeMPdxwU1EtjvcuF2Tx0cUm1Z0MH6vqcdb8GlHeYt2U BicASFBZa1QRsrjP_PxHQFuuA1CY5UdAD9ja_yZXjCa5mGdKdEPBc7VJXxwjO1OomkazTNsYdMFI xkMEPc.NhRoDO8l14wLlKHbe8YxkrxDfOyttHNXx4uKQE_8aeeEJ3CaNIt2gMQMGKapsPY3E2T1f ssTbQTF5W7JXG04Gq47axZ.t_yDJHPw92Dl4jIVgFMM8iMv_bp32j.uvfbRyFVaRE09V7BOPPhYU SPg3pHteCfp4LkjQjRVGV1m6ctIxHORFEtPr9gX9KIApdL9vN.RL0.eWJGgpq9ijbjarYiZ4bWF8 ZEoIasqVmjiFQFEsi7yMi_pOokxNPfxXaoMEwJlhxjL2VGuxTux4SKLagFSIx52LRkkcAQponaq. hqX6TRHywWPn2hh5YrcjZ68Q.ImNZTWBqirV9sFAl3ygQI7zJo2oMlsyqYulsQ.fY_fmdZX0sO0j SJDMlk83DkWiqLjyqzCfI4rTVR8F1EQD7Bk4R0JmyxZEgO0CjyEg7Aev6i2147bHl0uRkDh2CKSd rrpLzNn594OGuHhK7IbwSn8GsOVHVYMdbaLUxOKBf33PFeOyvyEgf5225Hg-- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic310.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:45:49 +0000 Received: from 173-242-229-144.scottsboro.org (EHLO [192.168.10.163]) ([173.242.229.144]) by smtp416.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 1007bb4a6de14b429fe01dbcd108de30 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:45:47 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 06:45:45 -0500 References: To: 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] 6pack Digest, Vol 46, Issue 10 From: Luis via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Gas can trickle down the manifold through open valves and down in the cylinders past the static rings. Lou > On Sep 12, 2018, at 1:00 PM, 6pack-request@autox.team.net wrote: > > Send 6pack mailing list submissions to > 6pack@autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > 6pack-request@autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > 6pack-owner@autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of 6pack digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: fuel problem (James_) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 02:34:54 +0000 > From: James_ > To: Andrew Uprichard > Cc: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> > Subject: Re: [6pack] fuel problem > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I agree - only because I just went through the nightmare of fuel in my oil pan. I feel dumb for not picking up on all the signs! > It was only when it started (after sitting to allow the fuel to evaporate enough) and then a shower of oil/fuel came out from between the valve cover and engine. And it was a mess! > Prior to the eruption, I would smell fuel but my nose quickly became immune to the smell. And I never thought of checking the oil. Ugh. > It was a faulty (rebuilt no less) diaphram in the fuel pump. I should have just bought a NEW one. > > The only sign it was bad was the center pin turned freely. It should not. I didn?t see any tears but that was the issue. Check it out. > > > ?Sent from my Atari 2600? > >> On Sep 11, 2018, at 7:23 PM, Andrew Uprichard via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> Maybe I am missing something (not uncommon), but I wouldn't have thought a >> stuck needle valve would result in gas being dumped into the engine. If >> this is happening, I would think there is a problem with the gas pump. I >> don't know the TR6, but I imagine the mechanism is the same as the earlier >> cars with a rubber diaphragm which can leak. >> >> Do you think the problem may be your pump? >> >> Andrew Uprichard >> Jackson, Michigan >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Patrick >> Bitton via 6pack >> Sent: Sunday, September 9, 2018 3:49 PM >> To: 6pack@autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [6pack] fuel problem >> >> Thank you everyone for your suggestions. >> Indeed the needle was stuck. >> I drained the gas from the carbs and blew some WD-40 and tapped the bowls >> with a small wrench and it work. >> Needless to say that when I changed the oil, the viscosity of the oil was >> like water because of all the gas that made its way into the engine. >> However, the car is now running REALLY rough. When I give gas, it start to >> putter and I have to pump the gas to get the revs up and then it will die. >> I never had that problem. What can this be? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Patrick Bitton >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.96 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> 6pack@autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/auprichard@uprichard.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.96 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> 6pack@autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/jattr6@hotmail.com >> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > 6pack mailing list > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > > ------------------------------ > > End of 6pack Digest, Vol 46, Issue 10 > ************************************* _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 13 19:02:22 2018 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E457D258AE88 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2018 19:02:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from smtp-out-so.shaw.ca (smtp-out-so.shaw.ca [64.59.136.138]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE82258ABAA for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Thu, 13 Sep 2018 08:57:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cds124.dcs.int.inet ([10.0.141.51]) by shaw.ca with ESMTP id 0T3sgjlmU5Hxq0T3tgkpQZ; Thu, 13 Sep 2018 08:57:41 -0600 s=s20180605; t=1536850661; bh=GjIeLvPPMecZwUc+Y3sNXBmUyO3rnnbb2lyWsnRaMUs=; h=Date:From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject; b=LFj73fGQM67mCoK1ueTu2xBIGkqjOlMzRPNlkjf1brEVBJiATOdG1eKBUgg8G4RvM VUBz0YAJZQdPWmZNpHQ0YdT/+EDg5FihavkmR9sviJuZd2VB4uWztULTR7l9AiqnJk UNBhqnsGHqEG+KUtxIEYX/zkaiVtEmnifuQ/hY3Xv3bDUA1kHS5yoWgKQatgskFqGh KuPresMMfQaHWsOf4oCWAjneo9g87nDqC8WS7lS5M9b3Nq/Nrx4C9gsotzrIJcCh65 KwCAOvR3bznvjEKcYG58ha9e37eVa1BeLA37sDI8IGrDSNLLjAED5GRhzRggRftmPh vbr0RCH+V2mxA== a=SV38p0SSmWyI8bohv1uulw==:117 a=FKkrIqjQGGEA:10 a=H-G6tWTVmw4A:10 a=O76VCmqbo-wA:10 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=69EAbJreAAAA:8 a=J5Jfo_ckAAAA:8 a=UqCG9HQmAAAA:8 a=ZFOt4eQ9U9ZBtaJ9HbgA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=c0Q9M0uomoIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=-GdrcJ4VABchm3IA-84A:9 a=gQIQ8qHKZCqQ_4b7:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=GGGinmgZRQXmVEG1E52S:22 a=pjL6iD4Q3Ml28u33qGFb:22 a=Bl1bqend9reKY-4Nh7dc:22 a=HH7FIXwXL_sUf1zzYxQd:22 Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 08:57:40 -0600 (MDT) To: 6pack@autox.team.net References: Thread-Topic: fuel problem Thread-Index: VD1sbZyPSLSwMk0XCf9rLAsYUpeDUg== qqCkGO52vsSpR1DE9vkAR7PVzNBH7hjAfjKreMcuzT78iROK3wehQMXu Subject: [6pack] fuel problem From: COLIN THOM via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8292631019873650819== boundary="----=_Part_13797726_1237685445.1536850660133" ------=_Part_13797726_1237685445.1536850660133 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is this excessive gas in the carb throat or in the oil pan? If it's in the oil pan, (the the engine is "making oil") then yes, the fuel pump diaphragm has a hole in it. Colin From: 6pack-request@autox.team.net To: 6pack@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 11:00:01 AM Subject: 6pack Digest, Vol 46, Issue 10 Send 6pack mailing list submissions to 6pack@autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to 6pack-request@autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at 6pack-owner@autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of 6pack digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: fuel problem (James_) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 02:34:54 +0000 From: James_ To: Andrew Uprichard Cc: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] fuel problem I agree - only because I just went through the nightmare of fuel in my oil pan. I feel dumb for not picking up on all the signs! It was only when it started (after sitting to allow the fuel to evaporate enough) and then a shower of oil/fuel came out from between the valve cover and engine. And it was a mess! Prior to the eruption, I would smell fuel but my nose quickly became immune to the smell. And I never thought of checking the oil. Ugh. It was a faulty (rebuilt no less) diaphram in the fuel pump. I should have just bought a NEW one. The only sign it was bad was the center pin turned freely. It should not. I didn?t see any tears but that was the issue. Check it out. ?Sent from my Atari 2600? > On Sep 11, 2018, at 7:23 PM, Andrew Uprichard via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> wrote: > > Maybe I am missing something (not uncommon), but I wouldn't have thought a > stuck needle valve would result in gas being dumped into the engine. If > this is happening, I would think there is a problem with the gas pump. I > don't know the TR6, but I imagine the mechanism is the same as the earlier > cars with a rubber diaphragm which can leak. > > Do you think the problem may be your pump? > > Andrew Uprichard > Jackson, Michigan > > -----Original Message----- > From: 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Patrick > Bitton via 6pack > Sent: Sunday, September 9, 2018 3:49 PM > To: 6pack@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [6pack] fuel problem > > Thank you everyone for your suggestions. > Indeed the needle was stuck. > I drained the gas from the carbs and blew some WD-40 and tapped the bowls > with a small wrench and it work. > Needless to say that when I changed the oil, the viscosity of the oil was > like water because of all the gas that made its way into the engine. > However, the car is now running REALLY rough. When I give gas, it start to > putter and I have to pump the gas to get the revs up and then it will die. > I never had that problem. What can this be? > > Thanks, > > Patrick Bitton > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/auprichard@uprichard.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/jattr6@hotmail.com > ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ 6pack mailing list 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack ------------------------------ End of 6pack Digest, Vol 46, Issue 10 ************************************* ------=_Part_13797726_1237685445.1536850660133 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is this excessive gas in the carb throat or= in the oil pan? If it's in the oil pan, (the the engine is "making oil") t= hen yes, the fuel pump diaphragm has a hole in it.

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I agree - only because I jus= t went through the nightmare of fuel in my oil pan. I feel dumb for not pic= king up on all the signs!
It was only when it started (after sitting to = allow the fuel to evaporate enough) and then a shower of oil/fuel came out = from between the valve cover and engine. And it was a mess!
Prior to th= e eruption, I would smell fuel but my nose quickly became immune to the sme= ll. And I never thought of checking the oil. Ugh.
It was a faulty (rebu= ilt no less) diaphram in the fuel pump. I should have just bought a NEW one= .

The only sign it was bad was the center pin turned freely. It sho= uld not. I didn?t see any tears but that was the issue. Check it out.
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?Sent from my Atari 2600?

> On Sep 11, 2018, at 7:23 PM, A= ndrew Uprichard via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
&= gt; Maybe I am missing something (not uncommon), but I wouldn't have though= t a
> stuck needle valve would result in gas being dumped into the en= gine.  If
> this is happening, I would think there is a problem = with the gas pump.  I
> don't know the TR6, but I imagine the me= chanism is the same as the earlier
> cars with a rubber diaphragm whi= ch can leak.
>
> Do you think the problem may be your pump?>
> Andrew Uprichard
> Jackson, Michigan
>
> = -----Original Message-----
> From: 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.= team.net] On Behalf Of Patrick
> Bitton via 6pack
> Sent: Sunda= y, September 9, 2018 3:49 PM
> To: 6pack@autox.team.net
> Subje= ct: Re: [6pack] fuel problem
>
> Thank you everyone for your s= uggestions.
> Indeed the needle was stuck.
> I drained the gas= from the carbs and blew some WD-40 and tapped the bowls
> with a sma= ll wrench and it work.
> Needless to say that when I changed the oil,= the viscosity of the oil was
> like water because of all the gas tha= t made its way into the engine.
> However, the car is now running REA= LLY rough. When I give gas, it start to
> putter and I have to pump t= he gas to get the revs up and then it will die.
> I never had that pr= oblem. What can this be?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Patrick = Bitton
>
>
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Sent from my ASUS Pad _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 14 02:52:20 2018 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 447F7258A6CC for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 02:52:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from sonic317-27.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com (sonic317-27.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com [74.6.129.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E8B258A256 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Thu, 13 Sep 2018 13:47:35 -0600 (MDT) t=1536868044; bh=t6YX34sSeB6qM2bqLzCjRXTTRJn3YZTiKLf2PaJFD6Y=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To:From:Subject; b=rMciam+VSODAOw2yB1HZV4QHh4g32uNgbjSnDFi8+5ixauMLhZTlLp2aJBC75o3qVaBRWyPc3/38J5nwvmQKNo6+ip+oyH557RFflbT/8nWAw1q+GNwejBxDl/eTpM1r9d9GGie8r0fsGQs3erOI1Q4fEySsWcHQjo3Te8v9w9njTiD3Gx1miVzbJu7sLDy7pES/51LEpz6Xjro4RIuciJzq0caHGLs6C7TDdtP2c1qZ9n3BKGjW3NRI7HMi/zsou2f4kaue681QgjhAVp6uoTOdlMgEcOWOkM7N7FWbDZKkgsx0tf1FC4xeFqcoY8ASlIO9M+utRCEep9Ot9nxKqA== H_36w4HNNu0Q2Z90einwzKcAkO6z2qJwTDRZ9Ln3TiyRPA_pcFZ.grpu5feIZqwE6vKIhIM_S.qK uBtMFwfiQImP_7bEQrhWx6LP06VIArerEXWodlF5otwywmdDDNYHpFRjdHnMswTFrT.kFujYz4JW r3TPdLD_KTGhNKD4h16LlbDdLyn3S4fLNF7aoJmPVcH.88mpkof8YXRAjDkzoZeB5czh415WjEME 0TNtze3l9ZmPDItTin8ablyTUgLsPUjZfanT9YeV4QTOGYnGLZ9rJpMucSJ6IwatVgmZ5nkeTjid Wnrts3UMqJUiUV4timI1VM__yWYQBnBQGF7HZXWCHJPlx5J5a1IO47BVvfodtxBOucoqlHwsGrW7 sL8.in8udfPmk6_AIaGQtOK5rBn96J4m7CBD9jXro8119j.spvHcTEHbLMcebSjrcCBnKayhTboN 5qC7EHIhbcQZ1lkJJ95MJiDzjVgIhvHU8TmCKugos6nmPKYi.z86HmV8xRzothlgkhaUNaGitxDQ 7dnnwPfL6tyqa69Z2Ihd_FXI0XAvYEsqaWnXHoHf_hJaujZxmcm0eMnRzjgUEVpnQftsgH0lG0.f SVzwNn_nQmWVqAf3DofDYfV.68VaZv5Inc1sbfNsS2bRJR7dLOahVEoN9724laYbA28pl6acLn76 k3mFOnJ8d10vxpI0.dUwEMoPGSE2cpuaA6dWn0n1Ubsjiw_VOSCLJa5IBkBR2UaIAvaAAyM3nrDT cbXlBnVu1oLCr3yXlpCvtNeMm4yEWOhkNwCcAeE279MI1Y_gLdOl1R1_iqXAepiC7L1AsWsanLMK Ponqmk6MrNH5c52TqbCiOZZedd2I17_OHaQDjJTpZbRdtik.V2NTBBYmrp2uOEiaxW3V3FDQM0lm L20X0TbK5lpM1IE_Ou.gIEY21UEXMU38uKbaiGDUQDQ7EtI1bxQon_g94WjUxSvbVtdyr_EoZ69P LFN0Kuy95zPjVkmGfprDeaA-- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic317.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Thu, 13 Sep 2018 19:47:24 +0000 Received: from 173-242-229-144.scottsboro.org (EHLO [192.168.10.173]) ([173.242.229.144]) by smtp426.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 51d6c86a994c09a25e459063e16d842a; Thu, 13 Sep 2018 19:47:22 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 14:47:21 -0500 References: To: mohawktriumphs Cc: 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] 6pack Digest, Vol 46, Issue 10 From: Luis via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Yeah I tied a pair of goose jets during the rebuild, both leaked within 100 miles. Put the old needles back in and they are still holding 10 years later. I think key is put a filter before the fuel pump and another before the carbs - they're cheap. Lou 72 Pimento > On Sep 13, 2018, at 2:31 PM, mohawktriumphs wrote: > > lou, > same thing happened to me . carb throats had gas puddles , oil readings increasing(!) , fuel odors , . solution : junked the grose jets ,reset floats = nirvana . . . > > > > Sent from my ASUS Pad _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 14 07:47:37 2018 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26BF0258AAD8 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 07:47:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa11-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa11-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [68.178.252.111]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C893B2589321 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Thu, 13 Sep 2018 18:15:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from PatrickPC ([96.127.197.107]) by :SMTPAUTH: with ESMTPA id 0blagE1TJ8Luq0blagVt3L; Thu, 13 Sep 2018 17:15:23 -0700 To: "'COLIN THOM'" References: <332755289.10379068.1536800679000.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 20:15:21 -0400 Thread-Index: AQG9p2lB7mDJwkiddjtAB6BQok9rCAK7SY2PpQZV+MA= Content-Language: en-us dLbFCcufx95EBhoc6GXTlgzZGtbJYFvvVHUBGZ020b4uojm6FQGe2qM8lJE+YO3hQ7k6pUwAl77kRg== Cc: 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] fuel problem From: Patrick Bitton via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net I replaced the needle valve and everything is running as it should. Now I need to fine tune the carbs to get the right mixture. Right now they are running a little too rich but I can't get the needles properly adjusted. I feel that as much as I turn the tool, I can't get it to run a little leaner. I guess it's trial and error. I did take it for a little test drive and I can hear the carbs sucking in A LOT of air. I will give a further update as soon as I can get it fine-tuned. Patrick -----Original Message----- From: 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of COLIN THOM via 6pack Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 9:05 PM To: 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] fuel problem the fuel pump never stops pumping. The needle valve in the float bowl (not the mixing needle and jet) is what sends unneeded fuel back to the tank. If the needle valve in the float boat sticks open, or the float(s) get a hole in them and cease to float, fuel will certainly flood the carb throat Colin 75-sold :-( ----- Original Message ----- From: 6pack-request@autox.team.net To: 6pack@autox.team.net Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 12:00:01 -0600 (MDT) Subject: 6pack Digest, Vol 46, Issue 9 Send 6pack mailing list submissions to 6pack@autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to 6pack-request@autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at 6pack-owner@autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of 6pack digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: fuel problem (Andrew Uprichard) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 07:52:15 -0400 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: "'Patrick Bitton'" , <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] fuel problem Maybe I am missing something (not uncommon), but I wouldn't have thought a stuck needle valve would result in gas being dumped into the engine. If this is happening, I would think there is a problem with the gas pump. I don't know the TR6, but I imagine the mechanism is the same as the earlier cars with a rubber diaphragm which can leak. Do you think the problem may be your pump? Andrew Uprichard Jackson, Michigan -----Original Message----- From: 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Patrick Bitton via 6pack Sent: Sunday, September 9, 2018 3:49 PM To: 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] fuel problem Thank you everyone for your suggestions. Indeed the needle was stuck. I drained the gas from the carbs and blew some WD-40 and tapped the bowls with a small wrench and it work. Needless to say that when I changed the oil, the viscosity of the oil was like water because of all the gas that made its way into the engine. However, the car is now running REALLY rough. When I give gas, it start to putter and I have to pump the gas to get the revs up and then it will die. I never had that problem. What can this be? Thanks, Patrick Bitton _______________________________________________ $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/auprichard@uprichard.net ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ 6pack mailing list 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack ------------------------------ End of 6pack Digest, Vol 46, Issue 9 ************************************ _______________________________________________ $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/pbitton@tr-6.net _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 14 13:02:44 2018 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B948B258ACBC for ; 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PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; A:1; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: hotmail.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=im_sloane@hotmail.com; x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: KpvwlxVWBDVMzE9tkFo4kbkdDniU4Bm6fuL4c7GYWJSVPs53hLy5c1xRpteOToTWWp26JORrhuon9/znGQSt3IYjUMt61V9HQPseoNS5EsXPBqmaSwuUpTZfcVvTKdGKdkOnS43JRNGkFOwfazzJBNenocc8VpIwqJ6HOy2j9GeCJYnyNmjlWJQ35i6TF3VMQlqzie/k0ur1j81ryMWQfkN7xY8owmCFWQsFNLzNts4= Subject: [6pack] Carb question - OEM From: im sloane via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net --===============6709909236309358383== Content-Language: en-US boundary="_000_BLUPR18MB025875FD162CDF1710DD01EF8E190BLUPR18MB0258namp_" --_000_BLUPR18MB025875FD162CDF1710DD01EF8E190BLUPR18MB0258namp_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, Brother lost the little nut that holds on the choke lever on his 73. It's a= lmost a 1/4" fine thread, but not quite. Anybody know what it is, or maybe = have a spare from a parted out carb? This is the thingie that rotates on th= e side of the carb when you pull the choke knob. Sorry for such a non-techn= ical description. Thanks, Sloane 69 Six 72 Spit --_000_BLUPR18MB025875FD162CDF1710DD01EF8E190BLUPR18MB0258namp_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hey, 

Brother lost the little nut that = holds on the choke lever on his 73. It's almost a 1/4" fine thread, bu= t not quite. Anybody know what it is, or maybe have a spare from a parted o= ut carb? This is the thingie that rotates on the side of the carb when you pull the choke knob. Sorry for such a non= -technical description. 


Thanks,

Sloane 

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--_000_BLUPR18MB025875FD162CDF1710DD01EF8E190BLUPR18MB0258namp_-- --===============6709909236309358383== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack --===============6709909236309358383==-- From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 14 14:28:56 2018 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF56258A4E4 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 14:28:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from sonic309-20.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (sonic309-20.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [66.163.184.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11D2E25895B7 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 09:25:25 -0600 (MDT) t=1536938716; bh=mYk3+NodjUD6HtBDVRMQAdZrW3juT4F4hAVPnWKMJes=; h=References:In-Reply-To:Cc:From:Subject:Date:To:From:Subject; b=aMry6+UwZqeQ04zzYRaZY/tGaZuExrUtjIPveH8LX1IG+L2vnKBBEtBpjxuHMAHbkad4GPa5kQRCLHiA/ulOjkljMU4kH6rIVIO5bH4r41va6LbjNjvahfoq5QqPRCaqhBLAZcS0o8KVgBuWXAcOEn9mJJvfggAzalXiQlz9FFE4aYqOfnYV/hVQynbJkfrVzyq63q+82zHDjnFJi/G7W5/+3OjOleEdIJ5qbbIgNPXN/ilJ+3qd7i36K/rFjvH4Bq9X1iGnMzHoQNk5oUUTY5eP19uwAZ+P13IgRT8UEYTtC9V4JgXZgZuGqgn5Lp0z4Onkc706DhOIhcqePpKlag== CeBw7bLvy4mgep3y7VDp8XbNlv9x27S.FAniaoGr0xH5DfcHtc2RXGb9xBjmNZp3JeK9lfK4pbVV 2uz5e.khpaF7uKz3hPljbOftw0DoRZ__q5qzYQo3ih9AFVH6uNIybcC6gm3lcWO9eDikg.DtzyKa 4WYrjULVinOF4LWYmE7hH54bLylr0vXubmv2JCZdCgQJd_Fhg5XWF7hJfPeMeSpDoMkRTSGMCq3m hzzeH643iCtlPg4lUs_CCk3iq4Sqgauvaod6PbxEf93HtQDuoZ.DxaqYA8UbwYD5G33AuLnTST0J Nl9NQE9fEJTs9ALavTOyDkqwMOXMOKMscrMLnA_L1JJ0ydexmYw0cGsMZ54V7ypmGeFSlN109krF L14xfaf_5aD5rNG2faPNKpTX2dgznqyx7lxmG63VRHvAtfTEqzLuq.xcyTsVaalAcswUbvOpyg9G VeTi.8zT8uymIDakmf3zLIICl.48cfrX4rZ5_rmuTbFaM3Flw5As1vqzPck4V6jj5OJ.CQPFbQqW 7AatOIXie4fwWe5ixPaFvYWWjm7F0E48w5pJhgF0r9PzeBwikUJdQdMsKiOLgl.qjVSKhV7_POSl 3KWrxr9o1tfZYpNP1gUQWKEH8ANmP0KLaTxhpLs5ngOnkN5YiX9V3b6CDBRvoAvB9l0kAYEgrc2I m5cKT3AgPXIPWRbM_lgSXCYV919a6DUOkgw.K2se0CcygactlYr4N3YSjoeKzKr45RL_m3wzAXRZ TQN56blqmaAxFJAtjueCmjlBUWO_cKMRYDchQAgbjUVRXpCJWZ4fEGYAOafj2R7G2kEqTutfzasK qAL75r9gOG8Spqj9clJ1Q6gdpalUbJSshG2cEgZCw.JCsTCaFaH26nssU0mLSkY0nU5qwD77sZ6N gWhWZltcA97G3YHU_RvGxAH.mMOvkXFZlyNr9fabeKPc7lWTD0tKtpf6UlbHon1xMtdiSXyrtvgq zUuwLiiDYR77VMtZTjJ5JFQ-- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic309.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 15:25:16 +0000 Received: from cpe-76-175-218-134.socal.res.rr.com (EHLO [192.168.0.4]) ([76.175.218.134]) by smtp425.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID ea5781de4b8a8762b8411a685e579d4f; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 15:25:11 +0000 (UTC) References: <18A91310-8ED6-4CA6-B95C-737886003A14@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 08:25:10 -0700 To: Luis Cc: 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] 6pack Digest, Vol 46, Issue 10 From: Richard via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Any brand of float level control valves will not stop fuel from passing if some sort of debris is allowed to stick between the mating surfaces. The idea is to filter the fuel so this can't happen. No news here, right?! I know the Grose Jet is thought poorly of by some on these forums, but I can attest to having only one incidence of failure in the 33 years I've used the Grose. One piece of rubber about the size of a piece of rice got thru. Likely my fault since I had peviousy changed a fuel line, after the filter. Dick > On Sep 13, 2018, at 12:47 PM, Luis via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> wrote: > > Yeah I tied a pair of goose jets during the rebuild, both leaked within 100 miles. Put the old needles back in and they are still holding 10 years later. I think key is put a filter before the fuel pump and another before the carbs - they're cheap. > > Lou > 72 Pimento > >> On Sep 13, 2018, at 2:31 PM, mohawktriumphs wrote: >> >> lou, >> same thing happened to me . carb throats had gas puddles , oil readings increasing(!) , fuel odors , . solution : junked the grose jets ,reset floats = nirvana . . . >> >> >> >> Sent from my ASUS Pad > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/taylorturbo6@yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 14 14:47:33 2018 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 227BB258AD58 for ; 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Fri, 14 Sep 2018 18:18:12 +0000 Received: from cpe-76-175-218-134.socal.res.rr.com (EHLO [192.168.0.4]) ([76.175.218.134]) by smtp407.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 0f9ac01b4f92d8fb32f9d60c7b1975ff; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 18:18:11 +0000 (UTC) References: <332755289.10379068.1536800679000.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <000701d44bc0$06f0b7b0$14d22710$@tr-6.net> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 11:18:09 -0700 To: Patrick Bitton Cc: COLIN THOM , 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] fuel problem From: Richard via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Just a thought here. When turning the tool to adjust needle height, clockwise raises it which riches the mix. It is limited and will "bottom out" when turned this way. Turning it CCW will lean out the mix. Going too far and the screw threads become disengaged and requires pushing the needle case back up to reengage the threads. There's about three turns here from full rich to full lean. If the float level(s) are too high unmetered fuel will be drawn in. Dick > On Sep 13, 2018, at 5:15 PM, Patrick Bitton via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> wrote: > > I replaced the needle valve and everything is running as it should. Now I > need to fine tune the carbs to get the right mixture. Right now they are > running a little too rich but I can't get the needles properly adjusted. I > feel that as much as I turn the tool, I can't get it to run a little leaner. > I guess it's trial and error. > I did take it for a little test drive and I can hear the carbs sucking in A > LOT of air. > > I will give a further update as soon as I can get it fine-tuned. > > Patrick > > -----Original Message----- > From: 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of COLIN THOM > via 6pack > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 9:05 PM > To: 6pack@autox.team.net > Subject: [6pack] fuel problem > > the fuel pump never stops pumping. The needle valve in the float bowl (not > the mixing needle and jet) is what sends unneeded fuel back to the tank. If > the needle valve in the float boat sticks open, or the float(s) get a hole > in them and cease to float, fuel will certainly flood the carb throat > > Colin > 75-sold :-( > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: 6pack-request@autox.team.net > To: 6pack@autox.team.net > Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 12:00:01 -0600 (MDT) > Subject: 6pack Digest, Vol 46, Issue 9 > > Send 6pack mailing list submissions to > 6pack@autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > 6pack-request@autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > 6pack-owner@autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > "Re: Contents of 6pack digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: fuel problem (Andrew Uprichard) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 07:52:15 -0400 > From: "Andrew Uprichard" > To: "'Patrick Bitton'" , <6pack@autox.team.net> > Subject: Re: [6pack] fuel problem > Message-ID: <006f01d449c5$e2eb6690$a8c233b0$@uprichard.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Maybe I am missing something (not uncommon), but I wouldn't have thought a > stuck needle valve would result in gas being dumped into the engine. If > this is happening, I would think there is a problem with the gas pump. I > don't know the TR6, but I imagine the mechanism is the same as the earlier > cars with a rubber diaphragm which can leak. > > Do you think the problem may be your pump? > > Andrew Uprichard > Jackson, Michigan > > -----Original Message----- > From: 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Patrick > Bitton via 6pack > Sent: Sunday, September 9, 2018 3:49 PM > To: 6pack@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [6pack] fuel problem > > Thank you everyone for your suggestions. > Indeed the needle was stuck. > I drained the gas from the carbs and blew some WD-40 and tapped the bowls > with a small wrench and it work. > Needless to say that when I changed the oil, the viscosity of the oil was > like water because of all the gas that made its way into the engine. > However, the car is now running REALLY rough. When I give gas, it start to > putter and I have to pump the gas to get the revs up and then it will die. > I never had that problem. What can this be? > > Thanks, > > Patrick Bitton > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation > $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/auprichard@uprichard.net > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > 6pack mailing list > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > > ------------------------------ > > End of 6pack Digest, Vol 46, Issue 9 > ************************************ > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation > $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/pbitton@tr-6.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/taylorturbo6@yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 14 20:14:45 2018 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1E1E2588309 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 20:14:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from smtp-out-so.shaw.ca (smtp-out-so.shaw.ca [64.59.136.137]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54570258A769 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 12:44:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cds124.dcs.int.inet ([10.0.141.51]) by shaw.ca with ESMTP id 0t4UgCrPbwyxU0t4Vg711z; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 12:44:03 -0600 s=s20180605; t=1536950643; bh=2m46ghvHOTjT0hLLqaRnIE8+wgbdw93kTO6fQHHpiKU=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject; b=YjGwB1690+A0Ul8okuGLFVWG63ByIn4gHXtXVzefPeCzpkiBwMjoa4i0Oj23wDKt+ 4+X7uElk8LKLxs9cdK+uJdlUXVB0IhKk2zI6Bp6NI2RRXjhXPhhAkE4OazMz3DDASv XkA/KUxZHLkM43s0yX4Ww0pqq1vK7FEvaempKWAIGlOEppGslfdm74evmaWjQJxdik 4bMqLIV/L7MktPyOg4COO1nIQ3PYTLDxy5k5SENZ2kOwZ3LAoFdJW1LfyfSOahQuyT J8Kx7YJzg/iHMk6UvUZKn07k6YldjmPA7C1dlDCgPKHTLthfOqq4SZuzcg//UKu8WR C1JAbZ0ndZeYw== a=SV38p0SSmWyI8bohv1uulw==:117 a=FKkrIqjQGGEA:10 a=H-G6tWTVmw4A:10 a=O76VCmqbo-wA:10 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=lwPbM9gfAAAA:8 a=_Dj-zB-qAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=J5Jfo_ckAAAA:8 a=0QmSxjHzVxDK1qIeZHsA:9 a=WJ1I_ongVw4ZIenF:21 a=ScXRWFdcqV2ZPiMb:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=c0Q9M0uomoIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=WLg6AlM-ggOBFcE90IcA:9 a=gTyOxWrW7_P2QC7X:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=n3_GQg12NKKiKvudAANx:22 a=c-cOe7UV8MviEfHuAVEQ:22 a=GGGinmgZRQXmVEG1E52S:22 a=pjL6iD4Q3Ml28u33qGFb:22 a=Bl1bqend9reKY-4Nh7dc:22 a=HH7FIXwXL_sUf1zzYxQd:22 Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 12:44:02 -0600 (MDT) To: Richard References: <332755289.10379068.1536800679000.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <000701d44bc0$06f0b7b0$14d22710$@tr-6.net> <9C38C66B-ADE1-4FB8-A8FD-E56C5574D057@yahoo.com> Thread-Topic: fuel problem Thread-Index: 9r1fkdXDccMG4jQxj09aN/Wwr/wARA== dLxCQbs5DtbLmdVH1ZaZsNjtDYOUPRB5aA5kNYUz2CtmGJy2orW91jiPNj1/ojJDTnP1MF6wsHseudFR+4I6AQe9VxxlpozuKOhN6dKqc0nAJrbAGZBNfeRP Cc: 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] fuel problem From: COLIN THOM via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2985239377562831471== boundary="----=_Part_21637467_68780439.1536950642323" ------=_Part_21637467_68780439.1536950642323 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks, Dick I gave Patrick the CCW guidance, earlier. From: "Richard" To: "Patrick Bitton" Cc: "COLIN THOM" , 6pack@autox.team.net Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 11:18:09 AM Subject: Re: [6pack] fuel problem Just a thought here. When turning the tool to adjust needle height, clockwise raises it which riches the mix. It is limited and will "bottom out" when turned this way. Turning it CCW will lean out the mix. Going too far and the screw threads become disengaged and requires pushing the needle case back up to reengage the threads. There's about three turns here from full rich to full lean. If the float level(s) are too high unmetered fuel will be drawn in. Dick > On Sep 13, 2018, at 5:15 PM, Patrick Bitton via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> wrote: > > I replaced the needle valve and everything is running as it should. Now I > need to fine tune the carbs to get the right mixture. Right now they are > running a little too rich but I can't get the needles properly adjusted. I > feel that as much as I turn the tool, I can't get it to run a little leaner. > I guess it's trial and error. > I did take it for a little test drive and I can hear the carbs sucking in A > LOT of air. > > I will give a further update as soon as I can get it fine-tuned. > > Patrick > > -----Original Message----- > From: 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of COLIN THOM > via 6pack > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 9:05 PM > To: 6pack@autox.team.net > Subject: [6pack] fuel problem > > the fuel pump never stops pumping. The needle valve in the float bowl (not > the mixing needle and jet) is what sends unneeded fuel back to the tank. If > the needle valve in the float boat sticks open, or the float(s) get a hole > in them and cease to float, fuel will certainly flood the carb throat > > Colin > 75-sold :-( > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: 6pack-request@autox.team.net > To: 6pack@autox.team.net > Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 12:00:01 -0600 (MDT) > Subject: 6pack Digest, Vol 46, Issue 9 > > Send 6pack mailing list submissions to > 6pack@autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > 6pack-request@autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > 6pack-owner@autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > "Re: Contents of 6pack digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: fuel problem (Andrew Uprichard) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 07:52:15 -0400 > From: "Andrew Uprichard" > To: "'Patrick Bitton'" , <6pack@autox.team.net> > Subject: Re: [6pack] fuel problem > Message-ID: <006f01d449c5$e2eb6690$a8c233b0$@uprichard.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Maybe I am missing something (not uncommon), but I wouldn't have thought a > stuck needle valve would result in gas being dumped into the engine. If > this is happening, I would think there is a problem with the gas pump. I > don't know the TR6, but I imagine the mechanism is the same as the earlier > cars with a rubber diaphragm which can leak. > > Do you think the problem may be your pump? > > Andrew Uprichard > Jackson, Michigan > > -----Original Message----- > From: 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Patrick > Bitton via 6pack > Sent: Sunday, September 9, 2018 3:49 PM > To: 6pack@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [6pack] fuel problem > > Thank you everyone for your suggestions. > Indeed the needle was stuck. > I drained the gas from the carbs and blew some WD-40 and tapped the bowls > with a small wrench and it work. > Needless to say that when I changed the oil, the viscosity of the oil was > like water because of all the gas that made its way into the engine. > However, the car is now running REALLY rough. When I give gas, it start to > putter and I have to pump the gas to get the revs up and then it will die. > I never had that problem. 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Thanks, Dick

I gave Patrick the CCW guidance, earlier.

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From: "Richard" <taylorturbo6@yahoo.com>
To: "Patrick Bitton" <pbitton@tr-6.net>
Cc: "COLIN THOM" <c= olinthom@shaw.ca>, 6pack@autox.team.net
Sent: Friday, Septembe= r 14, 2018 11:18:09 AM
Subject: Re: [6pack] fuel problem

Just a thought here. W= hen turning the tool to adjust needle height, clockwise raises it which ric= hes the mix. It is limited and will "bottom out" when turned this way. Turn= ing it CCW will lean out the mix. Going too far and the screw threads becom= e disengaged and requires pushing the needle case back up to reengage the t= hreads. There's about three turns here from full rich to full lean.
If = the float level(s) are too high unmetered fuel will be drawn in.

Di= ck

> On Sep 13, 2018, at 5:15 PM, Patrick Bitton via 6pack <6= pack@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> I replaced the needle valve= and everything is running as it should. Now I
> need to fine tune th= e carbs to get the right mixture. Right now they are
> running a litt= le too rich but I can't get the needles properly adjusted. I
> feel t= hat as much as I turn the tool, I can't get it to run a little leaner.
&= gt; I guess it's trial and error.
> I did take it for a little test d= rive and I can hear the carbs sucking in A
> LOT of air.
>
= > I will give a further update as soon as I can get it fine-tuned.
&g= t;
> Patrick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Fr= om: 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of COLIN THOM
= > via 6pack
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 9:05 PM
> = To: 6pack@autox.team.net
> Subject: [6pack] fuel problem
>
= > the fuel pump never stops pumping. The needle valve in the float bowl = (not
> the mixing needle and jet) is what sends unneeded fuel back to= the tank. If
> the needle valve in the float boat sticks open, or th= e float(s) get a hole
> in them and cease to float, fuel will certain= ly flood the carb throat
>
> Colin
> 75-sold :-(
>=
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 6pack-request= @autox.team.net
> To: 6pack@autox.team.net
> Sent: Tue, 11 Sep = 2018 12:00:01 -0600 (MDT)
> Subject: 6pack Digest, Vol 46, Issue 9>
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>   1. Re: fue= l problem (Andrew Uprichard)
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> Message= : 1
> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 07:52:15 -0400
> From: "Andrew Upr= ichard" <auprichard@uprichard.net>
> To: "'Patrick Bitton'" <= ;pbitton@tr-6.net>,    <6pack@autox.team.net>
> Su= bject: Re: [6pack] fuel problem
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> Maybe I am missing something (not = uncommon), but I wouldn't have thought a
> stuck needle valve would r= esult in gas being dumped into the engine.  If
> this is happeni= ng, I would think there is a problem with the gas pump.  I
> don= 't know the TR6, but I imagine the mechanism is the same as the earlier
= > cars with a rubber diaphragm which can leak.
>
> Do you t= hink the problem may be your pump?
>
> Andrew Uprichard
>= ; Jackson, Michigan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Fro= m: 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Patrick
>= Bitton via 6pack
> Sent: Sunday, September 9, 2018 3:49 PM
> T= o: 6pack@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [6pack] fuel problem
> <= br>> Thank you everyone for your suggestions.
> Indeed the needle = was stuck.
> I drained the gas from the carbs and blew some WD-40 an= d tapped the bowls
> with a small wrench and it work.
> Needles= s to say that when I changed the oil, the viscosity of the oil was
> = like water because of all the gas that made its way into the engine.
>= ; However, the car is now running REALLY rough. When I give gas, it start t= o
> putter and I have to pump the gas to get the revs up and then it = will die.
> I never had that problem. What can this be?
>
&= gt; Thanks,
>
> Patrick Bitton
>
>
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