From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 6 19:13:20 2014 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6029742F4A for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 19:13:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f169.google.com (mail-we0-f169.google.com [74.125.82.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01FDF42EEA; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 19:07:09 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-we0-f169.google.com with SMTP id w61so16723013wes.14 for ; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 18:05:08 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=aT6lr7cPBa82xiO1As0VYSQvRqbC0/VsbDCHESgpLq8=; b=OAilhJupLjUlrO6i6tpiyToh03XPV7NRWZsW8vpx6hd5ocDMdO8UCW8RUsojFqmUAy xDMfZYGzsGqK11Psbu3WaDK3AMfLwZ4TjPWpx6j11b2YoVDOcmbA3xT7TZLrwwZy6EQg /pzLqvHk0xELEEYDkHwDxJwYxfo7LgV5/M5QIWHJEuiA8PYy2C+NbLODQyLM1UXAQZJv 4R3Ipd1FNHN0GfsvfBm3dUudQWHa60nZmyB+bzHVntYEQBHEWhayGi9et9EL2Eq+5Uwt 6LL3+MYeoQsRWw3YN0bSaWhoDKT2VawO3GfiIOq8djFQgOZIXg4LekJ7nz7EufbxD/SJ bwVA== j4mr75849004wjs.34.1389060308418; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 18:05:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.32.131 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 18:05:08 -0800 (PST) References: <20140106020331.947684382D@autox.team.net> <1389055944.60556.YahooMailNeo@web160404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 20:05:08 -0600 From: Irv Korey To: robert rudolphi Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" , "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] TR6 Interior Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net I would contact 6-Pack member Bob Danielson. He makes interior bits that are beautifully. I don't think he's doing seat covers, but he would likely be able to match whatever color you chose for your seats. NFI. 75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org Irv Korey 74 TR6 CG22767U Highland Park, IL ________________________________________ 6pack@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/mharc@autox.team.net From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 7 13:36:12 2014 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C71F042F9A for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2014 13:36:12 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from nm17-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm17-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.70]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A95FB42EFC for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Tue, 7 Jan 2014 13:14:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.196.81.162] by nm17.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2014 20:12:54 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.128] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2014 20:12:54 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1004.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2014 20:12:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 36116 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Jan 2014 20:12:53 -0000 s=s1024; t=1389125573; bh=LbZPjFglCmvt9/h5tIYAN1vzFLFnG145TOKIJ1Bs954=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qUl5qWoOyF7ersTsh8pmQfhZ2mgkupKy+LVl/3cZGtHGeZP695Jxl/iZzCtlFBMKXo2EzdAvjG7kGefbnKYGd9sleuiUjL4O/7CoSqkxOGMvXw4HfllEqCFKjOS7vtR8QNly3OvnmoA2u8KIMU+FNOXX4KBorgN6jDDJcgfp4AU= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ejJfhnyuDf7xpf2InJyykdC9Izc1/nUzfDxZcnHMTU2QfnU0VR78TZk5jLxa9JjopQmxrtK8pawLIDTZfNXp03X7/E1qh1hAYeWpU5uqqp3dg0Pk/0E9NmiEd2hYG/iMX/3GJYqrYyVg+QLgXkK+GaTv7d/2cQOqXGHML98fX4E=; 8QKc7bK_5obqGpFW283Mm35fT1jWHnvybKZjQVMBCX9PjoLD8419qb9MDkS7 ZmZjXPe1aDDndCSQ88U7wN0Wo8jn_0z7Lg74S4hHhf1eUGKYjdf9imuin1jw FaE83gwmlu6houe4zrj2jRp40ucFihcKRX1Fq6ekTGrV7Dquw4FyuiqC0AUl DL7fDHY2p59Yv.JxQWGxSkvL9kMJmGxEx6mGtJ442kZBoOpYzavk68JJbfmy w9daH5wdn8ec1QEM.DYYbPEZCj1iwB2EdDgP2fhHrL_DXM1GrSEMlg4tvjJK 2V3GjPV3XuT.wkvoIfwPFFOOaPSSWy_uef5.3tlL5n3NclDonRN9bWGrCQEp H0BQOhRpOhz9OepS1dCFAppuaN_WNzOP842yQd8tNInJuTST7N8jGQbca_3M vAlTi0HLts8Dsy1cutIJ9Oars2H0PHIaZxa7ASJOGW6ByE_MB41qZC22cVZq UyOsFkQoXT1BzGr2oFQIX1_EPwOtkO9DKj.9CByW6cQihjgIOxTg- Received: from [66.31.70.128] by web181602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 12:12:53 PST VGhlIHByb2JsZW0gd2lsbCBiZSBrZWVwaW5nIHRoZSBkaWFtb25kIHBhdHRlcm4sIGVscyB5b3UgY291bGQgaGF2ZSBjdXN0b20gc2tpbnMgZG9uZSB1cCBpbiBhbnl0aGluZyB5b3Ugd2FudC4gV2hhdCB3YXMgdGhlIG9yaWdpbmFsIHNoYWRlIG9mIHRhbj8KwqAKSm9obiBTa2lubmVyIEx0ZC4gaW4gdGhlIFVLIGNvbWVzIHRvIG1pbmQuwqAgTW9zcyBtaWdodCBhbHNvIGhhdmUgc29tZXRoaW5nLgrCoApKb2huIEN5Zy4KNzAgRGFtc29uCkNDNTI5MjdMTwEwAQEBAQ-- Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 12:12:53 -0800 (PST) From: John Cyganowski To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 Interior Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net The problem will be keeping the diamond pattern, els you could have custom skins done up in anything you want. What was the original shade of tan? John Skinner Ltd. in the UK comes to mind. Moss might also have something. John Cyg. 70 Damson CC52927LO ________________________________________ 6pack@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/mharc@autox.team.net From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 7 14:14:41 2014 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D90A42FA3 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2014 14:14:41 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from nm12-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm12-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5251242FA3 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Tue, 7 Jan 2014 13:59:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.226.178] by nm12.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2014 20:56:58 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.47] by tm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2014 20:56:58 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp115.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2014 20:56:58 -0000 s=s1024; t=1389128218; bh=zS3evkXMqa4d61OVb21U2Tg+57IhvcNa+kEa0mKOXx4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To; b=uW1DRwQYbOpojKr16yKZWr4UueR6VPXifacjYMXm7higvcGMvuc1npcoMR18URlRFLe+YiER4Rf6KIpb/XbscCDyiWVwtsTMD/fsRPBjIor4Xz9fSm7er9vkz5OG+M53teZbzCmNeLhE4qFzYG2wL2HpwYXwIrb72e4leLg8/QY= d2jl8KjUhNs.EpyoUPpks6fO52dzl.DNmwVa56SvI4ghyueiDFnO9BJQPevz zeXprasOXdkQfklvYTE3ewwCTF_Al5V5FBB0U7XSPov0CgxZxXKGx6MxwsLl fjJUbWjZ3RFgAEnJIpAlbvuG5QZRlwOVZye8Mm7FZ2RL13f.HDsFlEW2JTU5 sCy2JoipWd1vTQAcg4._0Vb2uLh3ra8q8WG8EaIfxXu9bVWCVbaL1G8FnGGd i8kSGl7JfD0CJs44Z9zuEanHADk4YKDy8HBLj47skqMp70I.Rj7c5Gu1Rn7r Q3Xg65nuKPPaP85hYA9aAxHLIb.w4yG38905C6J0Qg1ysyur4_MYgaGdXHuO xxF.f2abkMtw8Oi9mKI4F.DEgc1FJKzW1m6bEGqMYPO9k1GzNUGH1DEwkIF4 khe2kDjU29cGv6tppAvcz.0mfqIlEmaV905rnPS_c6WilDhFsd_IoGRNIYaI aqPtyQdHWvIg42sbw3DeKXF4HoDN6o3k2udLjXuVXH0kahZXal.YSPEKXTCk 5Y2Sw_Xpxv4eqDat1hPdHdE8tS.7mTBVj7Sq_FyroVn..i2PoN9HX8dGTJyR H9W40.e0.0w-- xymcookie [66.196.81.168]) by smtp115.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 07 Jan 2014 12:56:58 -0800 PST From: David Fidler Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 15:56:58 -0500 References: <1389125573.11050.YahooMailNeo@web181602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: John Cyganowski Cc: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 Interior Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net The TR6 had three tans, the early 1969 cars had "light tan" code 13 (or biscuit as it is often called) and the later 1970-74 cars had the darker "new tan" code 33, then in 1975-76 it changed to "beige" code 74 which is quite yellow looking. All of the seat insert vinyls were "Amblar" pattern. FWIW, I think the biscuit is the nicest :-) Best Regards, David. Sent from my iPhone 5S > On Jan 7, 2014, at 3:12 PM, John Cyganowski wrote: > > The problem will be keeping the diamond pattern, els you could have custom > skins done up in anything you want. What was the original shade of tan? > > John > Skinner Ltd. in the UK comes to mind. Moss might also have something. > > John > Cyg. > 70 Damson > CC52927LO > > ________________________________________ > > 6pack@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/djfidler@rogers.com ________________________________________ 6pack@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/mharc@autox.team.net From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 12 07:48:20 2014 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6A6434E8 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 07:48:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com (mail-wg0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3553042F44; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 07:36:32 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-wg0-f50.google.com with SMTP id l18so4814323wgh.29 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 06:33:43 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:sender:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=uhkqoHpSQF7ADx8Ld7kSFXxZxBmZ3QrPM2ef/z17plo=; b=LDlsaoJVnqZh+pH7fP/39UOEFRs8CCON5RY0gsO4g4qRqUtEl+5pVAfKobYlR/QmyJ rIeQZ0QcrIXRDRepMwIjdsiRIhLRw55egk4PnB+7lq+S/v8wEynB3lJBHqFtJQ51rSTE nCe5WZch9C2zEbsQAHJgxUIqw90+3S6tF60up2Iyz6Sg03YYHwknW50Xy8vaBT9LK0uB xUPPyC43+OnbkXq5PkXFdW2CvLjQT3h/diiXTR8tD13XZo1b42wtsQwnRZOVc93C65lQ GncOJ21km1VOQ25WKHVz+TSLxZ8K3R+HlFqe0n9ZkM4L/9DyJIeRVhGbuDsfykeigxLS OPEA== se8mr11093157wic.7.1389537223829; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 06:33:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.32.131 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 06:33:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 08:33:43 -0600 From: Irv Korey To: TRiumphs , Triumph 6 Pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Cc: Steve Yott Subject: [6pack] Painted Stripes on Cylinder Head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Good AM, All. My friend is rebuilding the engine on a 73 TR6 for another member of our club. This TR6 is a 1 owner car, and it is completely unmolested. The head was removed for the first time ever just a couple of weeks ago. On the spark plug side of the head, there are 3 horizontal painted stripes. There is 1 - 1" wide white painted stripe each between cylinders 2 and 3, cylinders 3 nd 4, and cylinders 4 and 5. I have a photo available if anyone wants to see this, but the list strips attachments so it isn't included here. Has anyone seen anything like this? Does anyone know if they have any special significance, and if so, what they mean? Thanks, Irv Korey 74 TR6 CF22767U Highland Park, IL ________________________________________ 6pack@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/mharc@autox.team.net From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 12 19:10:42 2014 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BD0E43511 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 19:10:42 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.225]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B46A842F62 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 19:01:31 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge01 smtp.user=jmagorian@neb.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.14.174.248] ([107.14.174.248:26306] helo=cdptpa-web06) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id EB/DC-06933-56843D25; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 01:59:01 +0000 Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 1:59:01 +0000 From: To: 6pack@autox.team.net Cc: 6pack-request@autox.team.net Sensitivity: Normal 2014 1:59:01 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Ignition Retard Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net If I recall correctly, which isn't normal for me, retarding the timing reduces the idle speed so that the throttle valves could be open more at idle to bring the idle speed back to normal. Opening the throttle valves lean the idle mixture reducing hydrocarbons at idle. > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 11:12:08 -0600 > From: Larry Young > To: "FOT@autox.team.net" > Cc: Triumph <6pack@autox.team.net> > Subject: [6pack] Distributor Retard > Message-ID: <52D2CCE8.9040008@pobox.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > This is not a racing question. I'm sure the ignition retard is often > disabled on 6 cylinder Triumphs. Does anyone know why it was used in > the first place? I have always thought it was strictly for emissions, > which became more restrictive in 1968. Perhaps it improves combustion > at low throttle such as when decelerating or when descending a hill. > Just curious. > - Larry ________________________________________ 6pack@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/mharc@autox.team.net From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 12 23:29:39 2014 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DE3D40382 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 23:29:39 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1387942F9C for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 21:15:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (ool-44c79bc3.dyn.optonline.net [68.199.155.195]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MZB0035RNPZZT40@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for 6pack@autox.team.net; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 23:13:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 23:15:05 -0500 From: Ed McGuirk To: 6pack@autox.team.net References: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 Subject: Re: [6pack] Distributor Retard Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net On 1/12/2014 2:00 PM, 6pack-request@autox.team.net wrote: > This is not a racing question. I'm sure the ignition retard is often > disabled on 6 cylinder Triumphs. Does anyone know why it was used in > the first place? I have always thought it was strictly for emissions, > which became more restrictive in 1968. Perhaps it improves combustion > at low throttle such as when decelerating or when descending a hill. > Just curious. > - Larry There are several types of vacuum that could in general be applied to a distributor. Some american cars use something I believe is called port vacuum which has zero vacuum at idle and then more vacuum as the throttle opens. I believe something similar to this style of vacuum was used for vacuum retard on later TR6s. I believe the purpose of this was to lower combustion pressure and temperature to lower NOX. Later TR6s also had some kind of temperature switch which changed which port was supplied to the distributor. Unfortunately I do not understand the purpose of that switch but I suspect it allowed a little less retard on cold engines since cold engines need more power and also do not produce as much NOX anyway. The manifold vacuum which should be high at idle and go to zero at WOT is what I believe that was used on early TR6s for vacuum advance. Traditional vacuum advance like this gives you no advance at WOT but as you close the throttle for cruise, it advances the ignition for more power and MPG. I don't think it has a large effect on pollutants but it does help MPG and it is a shame that it was dropped from the later TR6. I think the middle years of the TR6 had both vacuum advance and retard. This is all just my recollection off the top of my head, please correct me if I am wrong. ed ________________________________________ 6pack@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/mharc@autox.team.net From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 13 23:24:01 2014 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE74140525 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 23:23:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D95CF42F2C for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 17:48:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta24.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.76]) by qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Dccc1n0071ei1Bg53cljxG; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 00:45:43 +0000 Received: from HOMEPC ([76.110.88.102]) by omta24.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Dcli1n0062CVQHG3kcliyg; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 00:45:42 +0000 From: "Walt" To: <6pack@autox.team.net> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 19:45:42 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac8QwS9nGRsXN4YsTguNdInwEXj+iw== Content-Language: en-us s=q20121106; t=1389660343; bh=wdOJiyLmTp+xHJBkuAKkt5msLA/lfVIQJazhGRo9Ifo=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=SL5lH5msJQ1YYxbZ8fZcqO0dVYEPcejYtkmbyX3I2wuIUupRDBNxNIbb7cHz1F0JT Xf5ZAI/egUpUFqnOeiVNeKE1arQtYjWBzIa48XKJItrvgsWyp6sO7rtsbYaNiRGy3j rVuvvEn4CFJpfAWuErp8refs0/FI/OrYlW63cPZS0SSTY9lhsQ1vyd1UQlvAzFCyX8 4TEP6B5nudsOBgL7pvmSeSd0lmvj08KDoXNIw0n87J0xQLBTMsedoJd9zJoO3Vz2zd uY3iFR28k6f5S6SSZEq1gf0nU+9VGJO3r2qXwu3nQVixXyqmec5KSa/CP+KTWW1Voh vfZhC2/PdvSAg== Subject: Re: [6pack] Distributor Retard (Ed McGuirk) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net The vacuum retard on the TR6 was/is strictly an emission control device. I believe the retarded spark reduced unburned hydrocarbon emissions. Since it also causes the engine to run hotter, the thermal switch in the upper radiator hose interrupts the vacuum above a certain temperature which causes the idle to increase and cool the engine. Walt '74 TR6, presently neglected and in need of love ________________________________________ 6pack@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/mharc@autox.team.net From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 15 01:22:28 2014 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD1F4054A for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 01:22:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 991FC429B9; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 15:52:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from DennisPC (ool-182c7f8f.dyn.optonline.net [24.44.127.143]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MZE005WSY1Z41I0@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 17:49:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 17:49:12 -0500 From: Dennis Culligan To: triumphs@autox.team.net, 6pack@autox.team.net Content-language: en-us Thread-index: Ac8RetgynQ8DMRC6SjCXoyfEGBR4WA== Subject: [6pack] TR6 Water pump Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net My water pump is starting to sound off so I checked my catalogs from the Big 3. TRF has a dual pulley (as original) for $65.99 and a single pulley that would work on my car (air pump has been removed) for $79.94. VB has a = groove dual pulley for $74.95 and MM has a = groove dual pulley for $49.95. While I am not always a fan of going with the lowest cost provider, does anybody have any idea what the differences might be between these pumps and why one costs prohibitively less that the others or, conversely, why some cost so much more? Inquiring minds want to know. Dennis Culligan, Highland, NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U ________________________________________ 6pack@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/mharc@autox.team.net From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 15 11:25:19 2014 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B64A1403D4 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 11:25:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from mta11.charter.net (mta11.charter.net [216.33.127.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4792A403FE; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 05:29:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20140115122655.OADT6169.mta11.charter.net@imp09>; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 07:26:55 -0500 Received: from UserPC ([71.88.33.68]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id ECSv1n0091UBpzb05CSvyN; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 07:26:55 -0500 a=15jz2KM9ZuDPt9qfoCmb/Q==:17 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=-FzhbSkFtNsA:10 a=Pyq9K9CWowscuQLKlpiwfMBGOR0=:19 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=Cxuv6fyKVqP5cskOiRcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=15jz2KM9ZuDPt9qfoCmb/Q==:117 From: "Alex&Janet Thomson" To: "'Dennis Culligan'" , , <6pack@autox.team.net> References: <000801cf117a$d88b16b0$89a14410$@net> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 07:26:54 -0500 Content-language: en-us Thread-index: AQGG57W+4kh98J01MOmDP0xhFltpEpsWCkAg Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] TR6 Water pump Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Don't forget to check your nearest NAPA store. I needed a water pump for our GT6 and I had a new pump, not rebuilt, in one day for a competitive price. Alex Thomson -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dennis Culligan Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:49 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net; 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR6 Water pump My water pump is starting to sound off so I checked my catalogs from the Big 3. TRF has a dual pulley (as original) for $65.99 and a single pulley that would work on my car (air pump has been removed) for $79.94. VB has a = groove dual pulley for $74.95 and MM has a = groove dual pulley for $49.95. While I am not always a fan of going with the lowest cost provider, does anybody have any idea what the differences might be between these pumps and why one costs prohibitively less that the others or, conversely, why some cost so much more? Inquiring minds want to know. Dennis Culligan, Highland, NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/aljlthomson@charter.net ________________________________________ 6pack@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/mharc@autox.team.net From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 15 18:57:09 2014 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F70540439 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 18:57:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f176.google.com (mail-ie0-f176.google.com [209.85.223.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C93403BB for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 09:45:55 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f176.google.com with SMTP id lx4so2372365iec.21 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 08:43:13 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=HP49Q9sF8RX/fWZl64A2OTfaQKj22c7i35c20fISVsE=; b=REzq9ON+4Vs03RyXUT4x4tJW69ct/CQlMthDkh1N70rIv7pbKpuR1pxKxXrTBzatPO PiBkYygoHenYtcACgM2XjzvEXR9BL9flgXUJd+AFiPz0dRNZasrQmT7kw5wjic3TkGRy KPTJrrsFtFZjMzGiXKWYI4137lx7XHsAgaIVqvGI8AeVh7yVL1GviNtPzgocdfLz9Q0J bi1cBHfJVzaftQv9DUqui05qCiQeTzsuSl0mp57Ops2IhBp/SSZbBNedeSQkgwRPkvhM kCAZopnP9zWKTtSpDtAL5RjQJxG/5x8PdW1p67WCO8gWJBVfBsSrZ56VnW6kKYy18A+6 Ch5w== ly3mr3379088icb.8.1389804193038; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 08:43:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.108.5 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 08:42:52 -0800 (PST) References: <000801cf117a$d88b16b0$89a14410$@net> From: David Friedlander Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 11:42:52 -0500 To: Dennis Culligan Cc: 6-Pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 Water pump Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Dennis; You want "prohibitive?" Check THIS out: * http://tinyurl.com/molo8kl * Dave Friedlander '74 Six On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Dennis Culligan wrote: > My water pump is starting to sound off so I checked my catalogs from the > Big 3 . > > TRF has a dual pulley ( as original ) for $65.99 and a single pulley that > would work > > on my car (air pump has been removed) for $79.94. VB has a = groove dual > pulley > > for $74.95 and MM has a = groove dual pulley for $49.95. While I am not > always a > > fan of going with the lowest cost provider , does anybody have any idea > what the > > differences might be between these pumps and why one costs prohibitively > less > > that the others or, conversely, why some cost so much more? Inquiring > minds > want > > to know. > > Dennis Culligan, Highland, NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U > > ________________________________________ > > 6pack@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/forzion7@gmail.com ________________________________________ 6pack@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/mharc@autox.team.net From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 16 07:43:26 2014 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67D7B403F1 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 07:43:26 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD9D4403E3 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 19:47:46 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pb0-f54.google.com with SMTP id un15so1994669pbc.41 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 18:44:56 -0800 (PST) h=from:to:cc:subject:importance:message-id:mime-version:date :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=npao7LcURsWNu3Z89OljiVFEnPnoBO7ybyhkQq4Ocmk=; b=ba1BnP8bfKoTxZLPm7HXqmOmOdP6bX5QCq5bY5nHbPid6UkayNYMDMccvrS7lekuSV XhO292/oVqvQxDA12Yr9ztiZtEqNc3KCcXoyQWExYGESqgePfsThgolGenV+YlEcdbey 6WzRrQx4fSSOkKf83yzPtdjHWn98GWDDid0qXbytdp4Mqa+/Msmweix/0Qh0illmWK4S UE05n46xR8+WcJDxXt/i6lbYLk5raBjwmeiEQpgfJ1h/he98CAbcz8jgnvELLFaV7iZ0 ZpJLrxlhAq+M3UCGux9Q3EAq9caiTLle6tVbfBTK8fyJMjXLxKiB2+QNuHO81Es0eBCb 6XBg== in4mr6803942pbc.128.1389840296827; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 18:44:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.8] (75-165-104-129.tukw.qwest.net. [75.165.104.129]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id jn12sm11222145pbd.37.2014.01.15.18.44.55 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 15 Jan 2014 18:44:55 -0800 (PST) From: "triosan@gmail.com" To: =?utf-8?B?RGF2aWQgRnJpZWRsYW5kZXI=?= ,dctr6@optonline.net Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 18:44:55 -0800 (PST) Cc: 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 Water pump Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net ________________________________________ 6pack@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/mharc@autox.team.net From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 16 13:48:05 2014 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E00C14042E for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 13:47:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B8140528 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 03:22:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20140116101905.ZOGG24708.mta31.charter.net@imp11>; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 05:19:05 -0500 Received: from UserPC ([71.88.33.68]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id EaK41n00K1UBpzb05aK4BK; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 05:19:04 -0500 a=15jz2KM9ZuDPt9qfoCmb/Q==:17 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=-3vDFSianssA:10 a=Pyq9K9CWowscuQLKlpiwfMBGOR0=:19 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=7avqrmhvAAAA:20 a=xRfjoxBpAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=ActVCIQ-5NBXPWaMVScA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=KXuLW65_DLEA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=IdVCOvCAjj0A:10 a=bgAgzZxQv2QA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=15jz2KM9ZuDPt9qfoCmb/Q==:117 From: "Alex&Janet Thomson" To: "'David Friedlander'" , "'Dennis Culligan'" References: <000801cf117a$d88b16b0$89a14410$@net> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 05:19:02 -0500 Thread-Index: AQGG57W+4kh98J01MOmDP0xhFltpEgJF+rqumwVJSRA= Content-Language: en-us Cc: '6-Pack' <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 Water pump Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Wow! That's a lot of "six-packs." Alex Thomson -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Friedlander Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 11:43 AM To: Dennis Culligan Cc: 6-Pack Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 Water pump Dennis; You want "prohibitive?" Check THIS out: * http://tinyurl.com/molo8kl * Dave Friedlander '74 Six On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Dennis Culligan wrote: > My water pump is starting to sound off so I checked my catalogs from > the Big 3 . > > TRF has a dual pulley ( as original ) for $65.99 and a single pulley > that would work > > on my car (air pump has been removed) for $79.94. VB has a = groove > dual pulley > > for $74.95 and MM has a = groove dual pulley for $49.95. While I am > not always a > > fan of going with the lowest cost provider , does anybody have any > idea what the > > differences might be between these pumps and why one costs > prohibitively less > > that the others or, conversely, why some cost so much more? Inquiring > minds want > > to know. > > Dennis Culligan, Highland, NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U > > ________________________________________ > > 6pack@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/forzion7@gmail.com ________________________________________ 6pack@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/aljlthomson@charter.net ________________________________________ 6pack@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/mharc@autox.team.net From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 16 16:35:35 2014 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D329940511 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:35:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc4-s13.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s13.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.152]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C8C403EB for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 06:18:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU180-W73 ([65.55.111.137]) by blu0-omc4-s13.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 16 Jan 2014 05:15:33 -0800 From: im sloane To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 13:15:32 +0000 References: <000801cf117a$d88b16b0$89a14410$@net>, FILETIME=[09A23CE0:01CF12BD] Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 Water pump Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Hey! and Free shipping too! > From: forzion7@gmail.com > Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 11:42:52 -0500 > To: dctr6@optonline.net > CC: 6pack@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 Water pump > > Dennis; > > You want "prohibitive?" > > Check THIS out: > > * http://tinyurl.com/molo8kl * ________________________________________ 6pack@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/mharc@autox.team.net From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 17 09:27:51 2014 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2358942F08 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 09:27:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (isis.mit.edu [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A55B7429A2 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 05:58:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s0HCtl1u008222; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 07:55:47 -0500 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 07:55:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: Alex&Janet Thomson References: <000801cf117a$d88b16b0$89a14410$@net> <000c01cf12a4$61308520$23918f60$@charter.net> Cc: '6-Pack' <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 Water pump Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net In the 'grand scheme of things', that's short money. Just sayin' Worth it? Who knows. But duming a couple pounds up front is always good!! ;-) rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 16 Jan 2014, Alex&Janet Thomson wrote: > Wow! That's a lot of "six-packs." > > Alex Thomson > > -----Original Message----- > From: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of David Friedlander > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 11:43 AM > To: Dennis Culligan > Cc: 6-Pack > Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 Water pump > > Dennis; > > You want "prohibitive?" > > Check THIS out: > > * http://tinyurl.com/molo8kl * Dave Friedlander > '74 Six > > > > > On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Dennis Culligan wrote: > >> My water pump is starting to sound off so I checked my catalogs from >> the Big 3 . >> >> TRF has a dual pulley ( as original ) for $65.99 and a single pulley >> that would work >> >> on my car (air pump has been removed) for $79.94. VB has a = groove >> dual pulley >> >> for $74.95 and MM has a = groove dual pulley for $49.95. While I am >> not always a >> >> fan of going with the lowest cost provider , does anybody have any >> idea what the >> >> differences might be between these pumps and why one costs >> prohibitively less >> >> that the others or, conversely, why some cost so much more? Inquiring >> minds want >> >> to know. >> >> Dennis Culligan, Highland, NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U >> >> ________________________________________ >> >> 6pack@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/forzion7@gmail.com > > ________________________________________ > > 6pack@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/aljlthomson@charter.net > > ________________________________________ > > 6pack@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/lang@isis.mit.edu ________________________________________ 6pack@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/mharc@autox.team.net