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From: Phil Marcel <MG1948@verizon.net>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 15:55:29 -0600
Cc: Chris Kotting <chris.kotting@gmail.com>
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Alan,

You can drop me from your list. My Magnette burned in a shop fire early this=
 year.  Replaced it with a Twin Cam!

Phil Marcell

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 11, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Allen Bachelder <bachldrs@comcast.net> wrote:=

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>  OK, so who on the list is under 56? How many are over my age of 76?
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> Curious in Michigan,
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> Allen=20
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> Sent from my iPhone
> Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
> Allen Bachelder, prop.=20
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>> On Nov 11, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Chris Kotting via Thelist <thelist@zmgna.org=
> wrote:
>>=20
>> Jim -
>>=20
>> If you're the teenager at 64, what am I at 56?
>>=20
>> Chris K.
>>=20
>>> On 11/11/2015 10:39 AM, James Schulte via Thelist wrote:
>>> Racer Steve,
>>> Welcome to the real MG's have 4 doors group. I am the teenager in this w=
ily old group at 64 lol. Have a 74.5 BGT that is still being restored but is=
 on the road and about 95% done. A 70B Heritage body shell that my wife clai=
ms is hers and "Jeanne" our family car. She is a 58 ZB steel blue and gets t=
he best awards at car shows. Named after my 92 year old Mother.
>>> Your collection is impressive.  Good luck and Safety Fast!
>>> Jim in Pennsylvania=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=C2=AE4 Active=E2=84=A2, an AT&T 4G LTE sma=
rtphone
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: bachldrs--- via Thelist <thelist@zmgna.org>=20
>>> Date: 11/11/2015 12:44 AM (GMT-05:00)=20
>>> To: slilves@sbcglobal.net=20
>>> Cc: Allen <bachldrs@airadv.net>, Magnette List <TheList@zmgna.org>=20
>>> Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member=20
>>>=20
>>> Hey Racer Steve ("RS"?)  -
>>>=20
>>> Your racing pedigree deserves respect, and you have mine!  ' Never raced=
.  ' Did a bit of autocrossing many years ago - only to discover that under p=
ressure of competition, I lose all respect for the machine, and just run it b=
alls to the wall. ' Surprised I didn't destroy my poor old '73 B/GT; but I d=
id learn that I have the wrong temperament for competitive driving.
>>>=20
>>> We have some inventory in common: I'm putting my '65 B together.  It was=
 a basketcase I bought in '89, and it has yet to see the road. A few other p=
rojects intervened, including my '57 ZBV Magnette. ' Have never had a TF but=
 did have a TD for several years.  Like you, age has been an increasing fact=
or. I still can get up and down from my creeper a dozen times per hour while=
 working on the MGs, but with age 76 coming up in a couple weeks, can't help=
 but wonder how long this will last.  I'm having to adjust my attitude: if I=
 can do it today, that's all I need to know.  Once I finish the '65, the '60=
 A 1600 and the '69 C/GT are next.  I'll be darned if my long range plans sh=
ould be limited by my long range prognosis (and even that looks pretty good)=
. I've known guys restoring these cars well into their 90s - why give up 15 y=
ears short of that?  Nevertheless, old age sucks, as I'm sure you'll agree. =
=20
>>>=20
>>> OK, so my B/GT is a '73, but I do have a '69 C/GT.  OK, not even close, b=
ut I got the year right, and I love the car. It's been lurking in the back o=
f my shop for seven years, but recently, courtesy of Robert Kirk, it has bra=
kes!  Drives great around the yard.  A few new switches and I can at least d=
rive it.
>>>=20
>>> In the meantime, my recently-restored Magnette keeps presenting me with n=
agging new and continuing problems.  Clutch is leaking down internally, so I=
've got an M/C problem.  Not really major, except I'm not looking forward to=
 pulling the damn thing. =20
>>>=20
>>> In the meantime, my daily-driver '73 GT has a cracked head - again...  I=
've run it on the cracked head for perhaps a year.  It really runs well. Fas=
t enough to put the proverbial smile on my face, but I have to address that h=
ead!  And since I'm thinking of something akin to a Burgess econotune head, I=
 think I'll have to go through the bottom end again too. ' Rebuilt the whole=
 thing back in '92 but oil pressure doesn't go to 75# any more...  There's a=
 bit of magic going on in this old cracked head.  ' Have no idea what it is,=
 but don't want to lose it in the replacement.  ' Might pick your brain a bi=
t if you don't mind.
>>>=20
>>> At any rate, welcome again!  So glad to see new folks respond so quickly=
.  ' Look forward to your presence on the list.
>>>=20
>>> Cheers,
>>> Allen
>>> ********************************************************
>>> Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =3Diii=3D<
>>> Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
>>> '57 ZB, '60 A1600, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
>>> North Street, MI 48049, USA
>>> http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
>>> ********************************************************
>>>=20
>>> From: "slilves--- via Thelist" <thelist@zmgna.org>
>>> To: "Steve" <skirby210@cox.net>, "Prentiss Kirk" <kirkprentiss@gmail.com=
>
>>> Cc: "Allen" <bachldrs@airadv.net>, "Magnette List" <TheList@zmgna.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:59:04 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member
>>>=20
>>> Wow! Appears you guys are really MG fans, a really good thing.
>>> In the early 70's I raced one of the E Production Huffaker MGB=E2=80=99s=
 in the Cal .Club region of the SCCA, so how about =E2=80=9CRacer Steve?=E2=80=
=9D
>>> My first car was a 1955 TF, which I still have. We're in the process of g=
etting it back together after way too many years of =E2=80=9Crest.=E2=80=9D
>>> I also have a =E2=80=9865 MGB that I built up while working at Huffaker E=
ngineering. It's overdue for a freshening up, a =E2=80=9869 BGT that needs a=
 complete restoration, a =E2=80=9C55 ZA Magnetite that's in line after the T=
F, and I=E2=80=99m almost done with my =E2=80=9C62 Mini Countryman. I just h=
ope I live long enough to get them all done and don't run out of $$$.
>>> Looking forward to meeting everyone on the =E2=80=9CList.=E2=80=9D
>>> Cheers,
>>> Racer Steve
>>> PS:  I also raced a Formula Atlantic car way back then, and more recentl=
y a =E2=80=9C65 Mini Cooper S and a Turner MKIII that I just sold. Probably w=
on=E2=80=99t race any more due to back and shoulder problems (too dam old!)
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Sent from Windows Mail
>>>=20
>>> From: Prentiss Kirk via Thelist
>>> Sent: =E2=80=8ETuesday=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8ENovember=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E10=E2=
=80=8E, =E2=80=8E2015 =E2=80=8E7=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E15=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8EPM
>>> To: Steve
>>> Cc: Allen, Magnette List
>>>=20
>>> What about Steve Martin?  Isn=E2=80=99t he a member too?  8->
>>>=20
>>> On Nov 10, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Steve via Thelist <thelist@zmgna.org> wrote=
:
>>>=20
>>> Steve Carroll
>>> Steve Wagoner
>>> Steve Kaufman
>>> Steve Travato
>>> Steve Hanegan
>>> Steve Kirby
>>> Steve Christiansen
>>> Steve Lilves
>>> =20
>>> and that=E2=80=99s off the top of my head . . . w/o looking at a roster
>>> =20
>>> From: Steve Hanegan via Thelist
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 6:11 PM
>>> To: bachldrs@comcast.net
>>> Cc: Allen ; Magnette List
>>> Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member
>>> =20
>>> Welcome to the party Steve! Now all you have to do is figure out Steve-w=
hat would you like to be called - we have a Steve H (me), a Steve T, a #1Ste=
ve K. (Kaufman), a #2Steve K. (Kirby, really a #1 kinda guy), let's see... W=
ho am I leaving out... a bunch of us!
>>>=20
>>> Steve H.
>>>=20
>>> On Nov 10, 2015, at 5:49 PM, bachldrs--- via Thelist <thelist@zmgna.org>=
 wrote:
>>>=20
>>> Welcome Steve Lilves!  ' Hope you enjoy this list (informal club, really=
) as much as we do.  It's one-stop shopping for entertainment, information, a=
dvice, parts, and great friendships.
>>> =20
>>> Cheers,
>>> Allen
>>> ********************************************************
>>> Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =3Diii=3D<
>>> Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
>>> '57 ZB, '60 A1600, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
>>> North Street, MI 48049, USA
>>> http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
>>> ********************************************************
>>> =20
>>> From: "Dee via Thelist" <thelist@zmgna.org>
>>> To: "Mike" <mikesmuseum@yahoo.com>
>>> Cc: "Allen" <bachldrs@airadv.net>, "Magnette List" <TheList@zmgna.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 8:25:12 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member
>>> =20
>>> We have extra doors if anyone needs them. Welcome Steve , YA another CA m=
ember
>>> Dee
>>> =20
>>> Sent from my iPad
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>>> On Nov 10, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Mike via Thelist <thelist@zmgna.org> wrote:=

>>> =20
>>> Hi guys,
>>>=20
>>> I'd like to add Steve Lilves in Corte Madera, CA to our merry band. Stev=
e has a long-term ZA project car, plus an assortment of spare pieces. I'm pr=
etty sure he has a spare set of all four doors that he'd be willing to sell,=
 for example.
>>>=20
>>> Mike Jacobsen
>>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Alan,</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignatu=
re"><br></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">You can drop me from your list.=
 My Magnette burned in a shop fire early this year. &nbsp;Replaced it with a=
 Twin Cam!</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id=3D"AppleMai=
lSignature">Phil Marcell<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Nov 11, 2=
015, at 1:50 PM, Allen Bachelder &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bachldrs@comcast.net"=
>bachldrs@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<div><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8=
"><div>&nbsp;OK, so who on the list is under 56? How many are over my age of=
 76?</div><div><br></div><div>Curious in Michigan,</div><div><br></div><div>=
Allen&nbsp;</div><div><br><br><div>Sent from my iPhone<div>Spring Creek Home=
 for Wayward MGs</div><div>Allen Bachelder, prop.&nbsp;</div></div></div><di=
v><br>On Nov 11, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Chris Kotting via Thelist &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:thelist@zmgna.org";>thelist@zmgna.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><div>
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    <meta content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" http-equiv=3D"Content-Type"=
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    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">Jim -<br>
      <br>
      If you're the teenager at 64, what am I at 56?<br>
      <br>
      Chris K.<br>
      <br>
      On 11/11/2015 10:39 AM, James Schulte via Thelist wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote cite=3D"mid:COL402-EAS273F2BDB84BFD5B7A37120DB130@phx.gbl" t=
ype=3D"cite">
      <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-=
8">
      <div>Racer Steve,</div>
      <div>Welcome to the real MG's have 4 doors group. I am the
        teenager in this wily old group at 64 lol. Have a 74.5 BGT that
        is still being restored but is on the road and about 95% done. A
        70B Heritage body shell that my wife claims is hers and "Jeanne"
        our family car. She is a 58 ZB steel blue and gets the best
        awards at car shows. Named after my 92 year old Mother.</div>
      <div>Your collection is impressive. &nbsp;Good luck and Safety Fast!</=
div>
      <div>Jim in Pennsylvania&nbsp;</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div id=3D"composer_signature">
        <div style=3D"font-size:85%;color:#575757">Sent via the Samsung
          GALAXY S=C2=AE4 Active=E2=84=A2, an AT&amp;T 4G LTE smartphone</di=
v>
      </div>
      <br>
      <br>
      -------- Original message --------<br>
      From: bachldrs--- via Thelist <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D=
"mailto:thelist@zmgna.org";>&lt;thelist@zmgna.org&gt;</a> <br>
      Date: 11/11/2015 12:44 AM (GMT-05:00) <br>
      To: <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:slilves@sbcgl=
obal.net">slilves@sbcglobal.net</a> <br>
      Cc: Allen <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:bachldrs@a=
iradv.net">&lt;bachldrs@airadv.net&gt;</a>, Magnette List
      <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:TheList@zmgna.org";>&=
lt;TheList@zmgna.org&gt;</a> <br>
      Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member <br>
      <br>
      <div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000">
        <div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Hey Racer Steve ("RS"?) &nbsp;-</di=
v>
        <div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br>
        </div>
        <div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Your racing pedigree deserves
          respect, and you have mine! &nbsp;' Never raced. &nbsp;' Did a bit=
 of
          autocrossing many years ago - only to discover that under
          pressure of competition, I lose all respect for the machine,
          and just run it balls to the wall. ' Surprised I didn't
          destroy my poor old '73 B/GT; but I did learn that I have the
          wrong temperament for competitive driving. </div>
        <div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br>
        </div>
        <div aria-label=3D"Compose body">We have some inventory in common:
          I'm putting my '65 B together. &nbsp;It was a basketcase I bought
          in '89, and it has yet to see the road. A few other projects
          intervened, including my '57 ZBV Magnette. ' Have never had a
          TF but did have a TD for several years. &nbsp;Like you, age has
          been an increasing factor. I still can get up and down from my
          creeper a dozen times per hour while working on the MGs, but
          with age 76 coming up in a couple weeks, can't help but wonder
          how long this will last. &nbsp;I'm having to adjust my attitude: i=
f
          I can do it today, that's all I need to know. &nbsp;Once I finish
          the '65, the '60 A 1600 and the '69 C/GT are next. &nbsp;I'll be
          darned if my long range plans should be limited by my long
          range prognosis (and even that looks pretty good). I've known
          guys restoring these cars well into their 90s - why give up 15
          years short of that? &nbsp;Nevertheless, old age sucks, as I'm sur=
e
          you'll agree. &nbsp;</div>
        <div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br>
        </div>
        <div aria-label=3D"Compose body">OK, so my B/GT is a '73, but I do
          have a '69 C/GT. &nbsp;OK, not even close, but I got the year
          right, and I love the car. It's been lurking in the back of my
          shop for seven years, but recently, courtesy of Robert Kirk,
          it has brakes! &nbsp;Drives great around the yard. &nbsp;A few new=

          switches and I can at least drive it.</div>
        <div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br>
        </div>
        <div aria-label=3D"Compose body">In the meantime, my
          recently-restored Magnette keeps presenting me with nagging
          new and continuing problems. &nbsp;Clutch is leaking down
          internally, so I've got an M/C problem. &nbsp;Not really major,
          except I'm not looking forward to pulling the damn thing. &nbsp;</=
div>
        <div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br>
        </div>
        <div aria-label=3D"Compose body">In the meantime, my daily-driver
          '73 GT has a cracked head - again... &nbsp;I've run it on the
          cracked head for perhaps a year. &nbsp;It really runs well. Fast
          enough to put the proverbial smile on my face, but I have to
          address that head! &nbsp;And since I'm thinking of something akin
          to a Burgess econotune head, I think I'll have to go through
          the bottom end again too. ' Rebuilt the whole thing back in
          '92 but oil pressure doesn't go to 75# any more... &nbsp;There's a=

          bit of magic going on in this old cracked head. &nbsp;' Have no
          idea what it is, but don't want to lose it in the replacement.
          &nbsp;' Might pick your brain a bit if you don't mind.</div>
        <div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br>
        </div>
        <div aria-label=3D"Compose body">At any rate, welcome again! &nbsp;S=
o
          glad to see new folks respond so quickly. &nbsp;' Look forward to
          your presence on the list.</div>
        <div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br>
        </div>
        <div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Cheers,</div>
        <div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Allen</div>
        <div aria-label=3D"Compose body">
          <p class=3D"p1" style=3D"margin: 0px;" data-mce-style=3D"margin:
            0px;"><b><i>****************************************************=
****</i></b></p>
          <p class=3D"p1" style=3D"margin: 0px;" data-mce-style=3D"margin:
            0px;"><b><i>Allen &amp; Florrie Bachelder &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =3D=
iii=3D&lt;</i></b></p>
          <p class=3D"p1" style=3D"margin: 0px;" data-mce-style=3D"margin:
            0px;"><b><i>Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs</i></b></p>
          <p class=3D"p1" style=3D"margin: 0px;" data-mce-style=3D"margin:
            0px;"><b><i>'57 ZB, '60 A1600, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT</i></b>=
</p>
          <p class=3D"p1" style=3D"margin: 0px;" data-mce-style=3D"margin:
            0px;"><b><i>North Street, MI 48049, USA</i></b></p>
          <p class=3D"p2" style=3D"margin: 0px;" data-mce-style=3D"margin:
            0px;"><span class=3D"s1"><a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"htt=
p://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs" data-mce-href=3D"http://www.mgexpe=
rience.net/member/bachldrs"><b><i>http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldr=
s</i></b></a></span></p>
          <p class=3D"p1" style=3D"margin: 0px;" data-mce-style=3D"margin:
            0px;"><b><i>****************************************************=
****</i></b></p>
        </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <hr id=3D"zwchr">
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          Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"slilve=
s---
          via Thelist" <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:the=
list@zmgna.org">&lt;thelist@zmgna.org&gt;</a><br>
          <b>To: </b>"Steve" <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mail=
to:skirby210@cox.net">&lt;skirby210@cox.net&gt;</a>, "Prentiss Kirk"
          <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:kirkprentiss@gma=
il.com">&lt;kirkprentiss@gmail.com&gt;</a><br>
          <b>Cc: </b>"Allen" <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mail=
to:bachldrs@airadv.net">&lt;bachldrs@airadv.net&gt;</a>, "Magnette
          List" <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:TheList@zm=
gna.org">&lt;TheList@zmgna.org&gt;</a><br>
          <b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:59:04 PM<br>
          <b>Subject: </b>Re: [Thelist] New Member<br>
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            <div>Wow! Appears you guys are really MG fans, a really good
              thing.</div>
            <div>In the early 70's I raced one of the E Production
              Huffaker MGB=E2=80=99s in the Cal .Club region of the SCCA, so=
 how
              about&nbsp;=E2=80=9CRacer Steve?=E2=80=9D</div>
            <div>My first car was a 1955 TF, which I still have. We're
              in the process of getting it back together after way too
              many years of&nbsp;=E2=80=9Crest.=E2=80=9D</div>
            <div>I also have a&nbsp;=E2=80=9865 MGB that I built up while wo=
rking at
              Huffaker Engineering. It's overdue for a freshening up,
              a&nbsp;=E2=80=9869 BGT that needs a complete restoration, a&nb=
sp;=E2=80=9C55 ZA
              Magnetite that's in line after the TF, and I=E2=80=99m almost d=
one
              with my&nbsp;=E2=80=9C62 Mini Countryman. I just hope I live l=
ong
              enough to get them all done and don't run out of $$$.</div>
            <div>Looking forward to meeting everyone on the&nbsp;=E2=80=9CLi=
st.=E2=80=9D</div>
            <div>Cheers,</div>
            <div>Racer Steve</div>
            <div>PS:&nbsp; I also raced a Formula Atlantic car way back then=
,
              and more recently a&nbsp;=E2=80=9C65 Mini Cooper S and a Turne=
r MKIII
              that I just sold. Probably won=E2=80=99t race any more due to b=
ack
              and shoulder problems (too dam old!)</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Sent from Windows Mail</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
            </div>
            <div style=3D"padding-top: 5px; border-top-color: rgb(229,
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              <div><span face=3D" 'Calibri', 'Segoe UI', 'Meiryo',
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                  'Microsoft YaHei UI', 'Microsoft JhengHei UI', 'Malgun
                  Gothic', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From:</b>&nbsp;<=
a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"mailto:thelist@zmgna.org"; target=3D"_blan=
k" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:thelist@zmgna.org";>Prentiss
                    Kirk via Thelist</a><br>
                  <b>Sent:</b>&nbsp;=E2=80=8ETuesday=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8ENove=
mber=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E10=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8E2015
                  =E2=80=8E7=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E15=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8EPM<br>
                  <b>To:</b>&nbsp;<a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"mailto=
:skirby210@cox.net" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:skirby210@cox.=
net">Steve</a><br>
                  <b>Cc:</b>&nbsp;<a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"mailto=
:bachldrs@airadv.net" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:bachldrs@air=
adv.net">Allen</a>,
                  <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"mailto:TheList@zmgna.o=
rg" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:TheList@zmgna.org";>Magnette
                    List</a></span></div>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div dir=3D"">What about Steve Martin? &nbsp;Isn=E2=80=99t he a m=
ember too?
              &nbsp;8-&gt;
              <div><br>
                <div>
                  <blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom:
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                    <div>On Nov 10, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Steve via Thelist
                      &lt;<a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"mailto:thelist=
@zmgna.org" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:thelist@zmgna.org";>the=
list@zmgna.org</a>&gt;
                      wrote:</div>
                    <br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">
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                            <div>Steve Carroll</div>
                            <div>Steve Wagoner</div>
                            <div>Steve Kaufman</div>
                            <div>Steve Travato</div>
                            <div>Steve Hanegan</div>
                            <div>Steve Kirby</div>
                            <div>Steve Christiansen</div>
                            <div>Steve Lilves</div>
                            <div>&nbsp;</div>
                            <div>and that=E2=80=99s off the top of my head .=
 . .
                              w/o looking at a roster</div>
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                                <div>&nbsp;</div>
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                                  245);" data-mce-style=3D"background:
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                                  <div><b>From:</b> <a moz-do-not-send=3D"tr=
ue" href=3D"mailto:thelist@zmgna.org"; target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mai=
lto:thelist@zmgna.org">Steve
                                      Hanegan via Thelist</a></div>
                                  <div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November
                                    10, 2015 6:11 PM</div>
                                  <div><b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true=
" href=3D"mailto:bachldrs@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"ma=
ilto:bachldrs@comcast.net"></a><a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D=
"mailto:bachldrs@comcast.net";>bachldrs@comcast.net</a></div>
                                  <div><b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true=
" href=3D"mailto:bachldrs@airadv.net"; target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mai=
lto:bachldrs@airadv.net">Allen</a>
                                    ; <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"ma=
ilto:TheList@zmgna.org" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:TheList@zm=
gna.org">Magnette
                                      List</a></div>
                                  <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Thelist] New
                                    Member</div>
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                              </div>
                              <div>&nbsp;</div>
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                              <div>Welcome to the party Steve! Now all
                                you have to do is figure out Steve-what
                                would you like to be called - we have a
                                Steve H (me), a Steve T, a #1Steve K.
                                (Kaufman), a #2Steve K. (Kirby, really a
                                #1 kinda guy), let's see... Who am I
                                leaving out... a bunch of us!<br>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                Steve H.</div>
                              <div><br>
                                On Nov 10, 2015, at 5:49 PM, bachldrs---
                                via Thelist &lt;<a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" h=
ref=3D"mailto:thelist@zmgna.org"; target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:t=
helist@zmgna.org"></a><a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:t=
helist@zmgna.org">thelist@zmgna.org</a>&gt;
                                wrote:<br>
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                                    <div>Welcome Steve Lilves!&nbsp; ' Hope
                                      you enjoy this list (informal
                                      club, really) as much as we do.&nbsp;
                                      It's one-stop shopping for
                                      entertainment, information,
                                      advice, parts, and great
                                      friendships.<br>
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                                    <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                    <div>Cheers,</div>
                                    <div>Allen</div>
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                                      <b>Subject: </b>Re: [Thelist] New
                                      Member<br>
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                                      <div>We have extra doors if anyone
                                        needs them. Welcome Steve , YA
                                        another CA member</div>
                                      <div>Dee<br>
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                                        On Nov 10, 2015, at 3:46 PM,
                                        Mike via Thelist &lt;<a moz-do-not-s=
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                                        wrote:<br>
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                                            <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14471800=
02612_30865" dir=3D"ltr">Hi guys,<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1447180002612_30851"=
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                                              <br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1447180=
002612_30853">
                                              I'd like to add Steve
                                              Lilves in Corte Madera, CA
                                              to our merry band. Steve
                                              has a long-term ZA project
                                              car, plus an assortment of
                                              spare pieces. I'm pretty
                                              sure he has a spare set of
                                              all four doors that he'd
                                              be willing to sell, for
                                              example.<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1=
_1447180002612_30855">
                                              <br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1447180=
002612_30857">
                                              Mike Jacobsen<br id=3D"yui_3_1=
6_0_1_1447180002612_30859">
                                              <br>
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