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Re: [Zmagnette] 1959 MG Magnette Grille Magnette Grill | eBay <zmagnette

from [Allen Bachelder] [Permanent Link][Original]
To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America <zmagnette@autox.team.net> s=q20140121; t=1421900546; bh=YM2a8RT9dlDHDXkEIVnqudrMkanya903DEunRU2VZqs=; h=Received:Received:Subject:From:Content-Type:Message-Id:Date:To: Mime-Version; b=PhkHICfJxdzf5mUaE0LoHaJ4L7/alX8kTSwCoooZrdeUJh2Aj22Chm3KdmjGGGe6Z CwYRk2GcYw8grSnX7/Y4OVIXmLAvRfbQ+k7zGHbiEY6Wi6aFH+vwgKWQR7vYpB5t5t L7geYZEHhv559fyoyJ77+lUECqG5wTryuPGZcx9cWwLN9ozOYmBZW78gCaUvR225J6 u20RkJiXj1s8siDgVAhib8H5twNyxiZrgBaO+24oaeJFhY79BDhgZ9V8gIa5e4qmSS EVDbFJATMybk74XZzDe6hMaGaRCl3v1ffWffCquSpFUyp1fWc9bgqySj+xQ/USD+pW cUQ+Jbm8GGdrA==
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] 1959 MG Magnette Grille Magnette Grill | eBay <zmagnette.autox.team.net> <zmagnette@autox.team.net>
From: Allen Bachelder <bachldrs@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 23:22:24 -0500
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Curiosity got the better of me.  ' Just sent the following in the form =
of a question to the seller on Ebay:

Hello Rob,

This is a nice straight grill, although definitely in need of replating. =
 It is certainly a rare item, but I believe you are sadly misled =
regarding its value.  I am affiliated with the Z Magnette Group of North =
America. Our membership of about 115, represents about 170 North =
American Z Magnette saloons - easily 95-98% of all North American Z =
Magnettes in existance.  Your Ebay ad has been a topic of discussion on =
our chat group these past few hours and while we represent just about =
your whole market, I see no evidence that any of our members would pay =
$1200 for this grill.  Replated, and in perfect dent-free condition, I =
believe you would see some interest in the $500-$800 price range.  If =
the whole car, as shown, were to be for sale in the $1200-$1500 price =
range, it might sell fairly quickly. =20

This is not a criticism.  It's simply an observation.  We love our rare =
little saloons, but the market for them simply does not justify Bugatti =
parts prices.=20

' Doubt if I get a response, but if I do - I'll share it.

FWIW,
Allen
********************************************************
Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =3Diii=3D<
Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
'57 ZB, '60 A1600, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
North Street, MI 48049, USA
http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
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On Jan 21, 2015, at 10:48 PM, Chris Kotting wrote:

> You don't pay anything for an eBay listing if the item doesn't sell...
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> On 01/21/2015 08:34 PM, Arch Boston wrote:
>> O.k. Hate to appear brain dead ---  however, if the shoe fits... What =
gives with this perpetual listing?  The guy has spent many dollars =
listing the same thing over and over and....  Arch
>> =
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1959-MG-MAGNETTE-GRILLE-MAGNETTE-GRILL-/1410249900=
24?pt=3DMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=3Ditem20d5be9348&vxp=3Dmtr=

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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; =
">Curiosity got the better of me. &nbsp;' Just sent the following in the =
form of a question to the seller on Ebay:<div><br></div><blockquote =
class=3D"webkit-indent-blockquote" style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: =
none; padding: 0px;"><div><div>Hello Rob,</div><div><br></div><div>This =
is a nice straight grill, although definitely in need of replating. =
&nbsp;It is certainly a rare item, but I believe you are sadly misled =
regarding its value. &nbsp;I am affiliated with the Z Magnette Group of =
North America. Our membership of about 115, represents about 170 North =
American Z Magnette saloons - easily 95-98% of all North American Z =
Magnettes in existance. &nbsp;Your Ebay ad has been a topic of =
discussion on our chat group these past few hours and while we represent =
just about your whole market, I see no evidence that any of our members =
would pay $1200 for this grill. &nbsp;Replated, and in perfect dent-free =
condition, I believe you would see some interest in the $500-$800 price =
range. &nbsp;If the whole car, as shown, were to be for sale in the =
$1200-$1500 price range, it might sell fairly quickly. =
&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>This is not a criticism. &nbsp;It's =
simply an observation. &nbsp;We love our rare little saloons, but the =
market for them simply does not justify Bugatti parts =
prices.&nbsp;</div></div><div><br></div></blockquote>' Doubt if I get a =
response, but if I do - I'll share =
it.<div><br></div><div>FWIW,</div><div>Allen<br><div><div>
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item doesn't sell...<br><br>On 01/21/2015 08:34 PM, Arch Boston =
wrote:<br><blockquote type=3D"cite">O.k. Hate to appear brain dead --- =
&nbsp;however, if the shoe fits... What gives with this perpetual =
listing? &nbsp;The guy has spent many dollars listing the same thing =
over and over and.... &nbsp;Arch<br></blockquote><blockquote =
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1024990024?pt=3DMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&amp;hash=3Ditem20d5be93=
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