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To: "'List for the Z Magnette Group - North America'" <zmagnette@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams and windscreens List for the Z Magnette Group - North America <zmagnette@autox.team.net> <zmagnette.autox.team.net>
From: "Paul Barrow" <paul.barrow@centurytel.net>
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 11:20:04 -0800
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John

 

Do you need RHD as well as LHD?

 

Paul

 

Paul Barrow

153 Clemons Road

Montesano, WA 98563 USA

+1 360 249 5123 Landline

+1 360 500 9389 Cell phone

+1 360 249 3776 Fax

Paul.Barrow@centurytel.net

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From: zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net
[mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Perkins
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 9:57 AM
To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams and windscreens

 

Arch:
    I'm doing the reproduction with the wires in color and putting the
numeric codes and the legend that the factory diagram has so that whether
you print it in color or not, you'll be able to trace the wiring.  I'm
working from the diagrams in my ZA vintage workshop manual.  Is there anyone
who has a late shop manual with a ZB Varitone wiring diagram who can scan it
and send me the scanned image?  I want to be able to show the different
options for clock illumination and trafficators versus flashing lights on a
single wiring diagram.
    Perkins

On 12/10/2013 10:44 AM, Arch Boston wrote:

Like most of the group my wires are mostly dirty oil color.  But, I would
like for mine to be in color.  Might make following the wires path easier to
follow.  Unfortunately it is too cold to do anything with my car until
things thaw out a bit, Arch

Sent from my iPad


On Dec 10, 2013, at 6:05 AM, "Wayne & Isabel Hardy" <gwhardy@suddenlink.net>
wrote:

Think I'll just wait for the colorized version myself. Since most of the old
wiring, now 50 + years old seems to be color free, not  sure if that will
help us, but sometimes a piece of the original colouring is visible.

I've found that a 6 volt drycell battery is a big help in chasing wires of
the apparent same colour, IF one has a good volt meter OR a simple little
test light circuit. I made my light way back when my wife was driving a 1984
XJ-6 Jaguar sedan and occasionally the electrics went on strike.

 

Wayne

 


Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 2:10 PM

To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America

Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams and windscreens

 

Wombat, 

 

This too is a good idea.  Let's see how many are interested, and in what...

 

Holiday Cheers!

Allen



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Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =iii=<
Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs

'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT

North Street, MI 48049, USA

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On Dec 6, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Dave Wahl wrote:





Dear Mr. Wombat, I would take one. Dave Wahl

 


Sent: Friday, December 6, 2013 9:45 AM

To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America

Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams and windscreens

 

Allen;

O.K. I got us a decent blown up copy..very readable with the color code
guide on the bottom. Maybe next week early I'll go into the big city where
there is an Office Depot and get several sheets laminated. How many do we
need??? 

Oh Yes..how badly are they needed?? That will help me determine a $$$$ value
of each one, Really 

need =High $$$$$ value right??

Actually I don't remember what the Depot gets for 11 X 17 sheet laminating
but it's pretty cheap.

 

Wombat

 


Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 12:28 AM


Subject: [Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams and windscreens

 

In a recent phone conversation with one of our own, two concerns arose which
I promised to address about a week ago.  I apologize for the delay, but my
past week has been memorable for its interruptions.   

 

Two questions:

1.)  Is there somebody in our noble band who either could or would be
interested in making up enlarged wiring diagrams for the Magnette. I know
there are at least four of them, and maybe some choices would have to be
made, but did somebody volunteer that they could provide an 11 X 17 wiring
diagram copy either laminated or suitable for lamination? If you are not
such a person but have access to equipment that could produce same, for a
PRICE of course, I can guaranty you sales of two of these from the get-go.
I know we discussed this at some time but cannot recall how we left it.

 

2.) We also focused on a windscreen thread a year or two ago, and somebody
found that Pilkington (?name?) had a US distribution center (somewhere in
Ohio?) from which we might be able to expect a supply of new windscreens.
Is there a follow-up story here? There are those of us who either need one
or would buy one as a spare should they become available.  Once again, any
new information about this would certainly be welcome.  I know the nightmare
Steve Hanegan went through to land a shipment of windscreens and rear
Varitone glasses here in the US of A.  I suspect a good many of those of us
of the Varitone persuasion would be cheered to find a stash of these bits
available in North America, but I wouldn't wish this task on Steve again for
anything.  So... can anybody report anything new on this concern?

 

Many thanks to anybody who can contribute to this conversation! 

 

Holiday Cheers,

Allen




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Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =iii=<
Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs

'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT

North Street, MI 48049, USA

 <http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs>
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Behalf Of </span></b>John Perkins<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, December 10, =
2013
9:57 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> List for the Z Magnette =
Group
- North America<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Zmagnette] Wir=
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diagrams and windscreens</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'co=
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Arch:<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm doing the reproduction with the wires in color and
putting the numeric codes and the legend that the factory diagram has so th=
at
whether you print it in color or not, you'll be able to trace the wiring.&n=
bsp;
I'm working from the diagrams in my ZA vintage workshop manual.&nbsp; Is th=
ere
anyone who has a late shop manual with a ZB Varitone wiring diagram who can
scan it and send me the scanned image?&nbsp; I want to be able to show the
different options for clock illumination and trafficators versus flashing
lights on a single wiring diagram.<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Perkins<br>
<br>
On 12/10/2013 10:44 AM, Arch Boston wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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 oil
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following the wires path easier to follow. &nbsp;Unfortunately it is too co=
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to do anything with my car until things thaw out a bit, Arch<br>
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Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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seems to be color free, not&nbsp; sure if that will help us, but sometimes =
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light way back when my wife was driving a 1984 XJ-6 Jaguar sedan and
occasionally the electrics went on strike.</span></font><font size=3D4
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 <a
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>On Dec 6, 2013, at 2:21 PM, =
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Dave Wahl<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weigh=
t:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>=
 <a
href=3D"mailto:gwhardy@suddenlink.net"; title=3D"gwhardy@suddenlink.net"
moz-do-not-send=3Dtrue>Wayne &amp; Isabel Hardy</a> <o:p></o:p></span></fon=
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r=3Dblack
face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weigh=
t:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>=
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December 6, 2013 9:45 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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r=3Dblack
face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weigh=
t:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>=
 <a
href=3D"mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net"; title=3D"zmagnette@autox.team.net"
moz-do-not-send=3Dtrue>List for the Z Magnette Group - North America</a> <o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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t:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>=
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[Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams and windscreens<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D4 color=3Dblack face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>Allen;</span></font><font si=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D4 color=3Dblack face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>O.K. I got us a decent blown=
 up
copy..very readable with the color code guide on the bottom. Maybe next wee=
k
early I&#8217;ll go into the big city where there is an Office Depot and ge=
t several
sheets laminated. How many do we need??? </span></font><font size=3D4
face=3DCalibri><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Calibri'><o:p></=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D4 color=3Dblack face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>Oh Yes..how badly are they
needed?? That will help me determine a $$$$ value of each one, Really </spa=
n></font><font
size=3D4 face=3DCalibri><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Calibri=
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style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>need =3DHigh $$$$$ value rig=
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size=3D4 face=3DCalibri><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Calibri=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D4 color=3Dblack face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>Actually I don&#8217;t remem=
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what the Depot gets for 11 X 17 sheet laminating but it&#8217;s pretty chea=
p.</span></font><font
size=3D4 face=3DCalibri><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Calibri=
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r=3Dblack
face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weigh=
t:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>=
 <a
href=3D"mailto:bachldrs@comcast.net"; title=3D"bachldrs@comcast.net"
moz-do-not-send=3Dtrue>Allen Bachelder</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weigh=
t:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>=
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December 06, 2013 12:28 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weigh=
t:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>=
 <a
href=3D"mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net"; title=3D"zmagnette@autox.team.net"
moz-do-not-send=3Dtrue>zmagnette</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weigh=
t:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
[Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams and windscreens<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>In a recent phone conversati=
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with one of our own, two concerns arose which I promised to address about a
week ago.&nbsp; I apologize for the delay, but my past week has been memora=
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for its interruptions.&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>Two questions:<o:p></o:p></s=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>1.)&nbsp; Is there somebody =
in our
noble band who either could or would be interested in making up enlarged wi=
ring
diagrams for the Magnette. I know there are at least four of them, and mayb=
e
some choices would have to be made, but did somebody volunteer that they co=
uld
provide an 11 X 17 wiring diagram copy either laminated or suitable for
lamination? If you are not such a person but have access to equipment that
could produce same, for a PRICE of course, I can guaranty you sales of two =
of
these from the get-go.&nbsp; I know we discussed this at some time but cann=
ot
recall how we left it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>2.) We also focused on a
windscreen thread a year or two ago, and somebody found that Pilkington
(?name?) had a <st1:country-region w:st=3D"on">US</st1:country-region> dist=
ribution
center (somewhere in <st1:State w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on">Ohio</st=
1:place></st1:State>?)
from which we might be able to expect a supply of new windscreens.&nbsp; Is
there a follow-up story here? There are those of us who either need one or
would buy one as a spare should they become available.&nbsp; Once again, an=
y
new information about this would certainly be welcome.&nbsp; I know the
nightmare Steve Hanegan went through to land a shipment of windscreens and =
rear
Varitone glasses here in the US of A.&nbsp; I suspect a good many of those =
of
us of the Varitone persuasion would be cheered to find a stash of these bit=
s
available in <st1:place w:st=3D"on">North America</st1:place>, but I wouldn=
't
wish this task on Steve again for anything.&nbsp; So... can anybody report
anything new on this concern?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>Many thanks to anybody who c=
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face=3DCalibri><span style=3D'font-family:Calibri'> Cheers,<o:p></o:p></spa=
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