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I respectfully disagree that more air =3D more noise by default. "Noise" to=
a mechanical engineer (or most any engineer) is an undesireable by-product=
of inefficiency, i.e. whatever is causing the noise is sapping energy from=
whatever the machine is supposed to do (unless it's job is to make noise).=
Having said that, stub stacks should reduce noise -all else being the same=
- because the efficiency of the system is increased.=0A=0A=0ATo that end, =
Allen opens up the issue of Bernoulli. In our carbs Bernoulli is working ha=
rd for us at the piston/bridge, not the inlet throat. Without some kind of =
"stack" Bernoulli is screwing with us at the carb inlet as the "apparent" i=
nlet diameter gets smaller due to the air having to make a hard 90-degreee =
turn... turbulence is also introduced before the piston/bridge which is not=
a happy thing for nice even fuel induction.=0A=0AThose two reasons are wha=
t makes the mixture "change" when you put a stack on. Not more air, per se,=
but quality of air flow. =0A=0A=0AMike!=0A=0A=0AMichael Anderson=0AOne of =
a Kind Stuff/AEU=0A775 772-2056=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A=
From: Wayne & Isabel Hardy <gwhardy@suddenlink.net>=0ATo: List for the Z M=
agnette Group - North America <zmagnette@autox.team.net> =0ASent: Friday, N=
ovember 15, 2013 1:19 AM=0ASubject: Re: [Zmagnette] Stub stacks=0A =0A=0A=
=0A =0AIf the carbs are tuned again to compensate for more air to the =0Ain=
let, then more power should always be the result. If more power is =E2=80=
=9CBetter=E2=80=9D, =0Athen the answer is yes. But you must adjust for more=
airflow to get a more =0Abetter running motor..ie more air will need more =
fuel too if a result is to be =0Amore power. Maybe a new, slightly richer n=
eedle is the ticket to heaven. I know =0Athe K&N filter people caution that=
their filters flow so much more air than =0Athe usual paper ones, that a r=
icher needle, or jet, or slight enrichment =0Aadjustment may be desirable f=
or best running.=0AOf course all this extra air flow is also likely to crea=
te =0Amore inlet roar under acceleration. Is that =E2=80=9CBetter=E2=80=9D =
or not???=0AI personally run the MGA cleaner assemblies rather than the =0A=
Magnette one for better access to the carb adjustment screws for keeping up=
with =0Asummer 100 degree days now swinging to winter 50 - 60 degree days =
and the =0Aresultant changes in idle speeds due to cooler, denser air, and =
the need to =0Arichen the mix by about 1/8th of a turn.=0AMG put on the big=
old ugly oil bath filter for better engine =0Alife in a variety of dirty d=
usty operating situations around the world, and for =0Amore civilized opera=
tion in a quieter manner. Their true race motors ran with =0Avelocity stack=
s and no filters usually.=0A=C2=A0=0AWombat=C2=A0=0AFrom: Allen Bachelder =
=0ASent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 10:21 PM=0ATo: List for the Z Magnette=
Group - North =0AAmerica =0ASubject: Re: [Zmagnette] Stub stacks=0A=C2=A0 =
I'm =0Acautiously venturing beyond my paygrade here, but are we not talking=
about the =0ABernoulli Principle: stating that as air enters a conical tub=
e the air pressure =0Ais maximized, but as the tube diameter conically dimi=
nishes, air pressure =0Adecreases as air speed increases inside the carb.=
=C2=A0 Without a conical stub =0Astack, there is no acceleration in the air=
entering the carb inlet.=C2=A0 How =0Amuch lift would we get from a cross-=
sectionally flat airplane wing-top with a =0Asquared-off leading edge? =0A=
=C2=A0=0AThat being said, how can the original Magnette intake plenum perfo=
rm any of =0Athis function? Same question for the intake plenums on T-serie=
s cars. I would =0Athink they would be Bernoullian disasters.=C2=A0 Would a=
Magnette engine always =0Arun better with stub stacks rather than the orig=
inal plenum?=0A=C2=A0=0ACurious in Michigan.=0A=C2=A0=0A(Allen)=0A*********=
*******************************************************Allen =0A& Florrie B=
achelder=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3Diii=3D<=0ASpring =0ACreek H=
ome for Wayward MGs=0A'57 =0AZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT=0ANorth =0AStree=
t, MI 48049, =0AUSAhttp://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs*************=
***************************************************=0A=C2=A0=0AOn Nov 13, 2=
013, at 7:33 PM, John Park wrote:=0A=0ADepending on length it can produce =
a much smoother flow, some say a bit of a ram effect which increases power=
and torque . Longer stacks as in longer runners means more torque while s=
horter ones mean more power.=C2=A0 Not lots, but it all contributes to a f=
reer flowing intake which helps your freer flowing exhaust to make a bit m=
ore power/torque and slightly better fuel economy.=C2=A0 You note vintage =
racers usually have anywhere from2.5 to 6 inch stacks. Some with a stockin=
g for a coarse filter, most just hoping nothing of consequence enters the =
throat=E2=80=A6 I have a set of 2.25 inch stacks in my 3.25 inch K&N=E2=80=
=99s on my MGB and they seem to help. Just the ho hum stock setup on my M=
agnette.=0A> =C2=A0=0A>From:=C2=A0zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net=C2=A0[ma=
ilto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net]=C2=A0On Behalf Of=C2=A0Richard Gree=
nberg=0A>Sent:=C2=A0Wednesday, November 13, 2013 12:34 PM=0A>To:=C2=A0List=
for the Z Magnette Group - North America=0A>Subject:=C2=A0Re: [Zmagnette]=
Stub stacks=0A>=C2=A0=0A>What is a stub stack? Would it allow for a filt=
er that lies closer to the engine than a regular pancake filter?=0A>=C2=A0=
=0A>On Nov 13, 2013, at 9:53 AM, Allen Bachelder wrote:=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>I'v=
e always just used the item #54 from the Moss catalog:=C2=A0http://www.mos=
smotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=3D28996#top=C2=A0 Are these=
from APT or Rimmer better?=0A>>=C2=A0=0A>>Always anxious to learn...=0A>=
>Allen=0A>>****************************************************************=
=0A>>Allen & Florrie Bachelder=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3Diii=
=3D<=0A>>Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs=0A>>'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '7=
3 B/GT=0A>>North Street, MI 48049, USA=0A>>http://www.mgexperience.net/mem=
ber/bachldrs=0A>>**********************************************************=
******=0A>>=C2=A0=0A>>On Nov 13, 2013, at 4:10 AM,=C2=A0monster@caverock.n=
et.nz=C2=A0wrote:=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Hi everyone,=0A>>>=0A>>>I'd like to g=
et a pair of 1.5" H4 stub stacks and I've =0A tried emailing Steve Ash=
several times to see if he would make some more, =0A but I haven't go=
t an answer from him.=0A>>>=0A>>>So... from a light scour of =0A the i=
nternet there appears to be two types available at a reasonable =0A co=
st:=0A>>>$32.50 ea -http://www.aptfast.com/ShowItem/101221%20Billet%20Alloy=
%20Stub%20Stack%20SU%20HS4.aspx=0A>>>$57 =0A pair -=C2=A0http://www.ri=
mmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-RL1396ALT=0A>>>=0A>>>I've =0A excluded the K&N =
ones as they are very rough, by all accounts.=0A>>>Are =0A there any o=
thers that people would recommend?=0A>>>=0A>>>They're going to fit =0A =
inside K&N filters that are 2 1/8" thick.=0A>>>=0A>>>regards,=0A>>>--=C2=
=A0=0A>>>Robert (in =0A NZ)=0A>>>_____________________________________=
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti=
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">I respectfully disagr=
ee that more air =3D more noise by default. "Noise" to a mechanical enginee=
r (or most any engineer) is an undesireable by-product of inefficiency, i.e=
. whatever is causing the noise is sapping energy from whatever the machine=
is supposed to do (unless it's job is to make noise). Having said that, st=
ub stacks should reduce noise -all else being the same - because the effici=
ency of the system is increased.<br><div><span><br></span></div><div>To tha=
t end, Allen opens up the issue of Bernoulli. In our carbs Bernoulli is wor=
king hard for us at the piston/bridge, not the inlet throat. Without some k=
ind of "stack" Bernoulli is screwing with us at the carb inlet as the "appa=
rent" inlet diameter gets smaller due to the air having to make a hard 90-d=
egreee turn... turbulence is also introduced before the piston/bridge
which is not a happy thing for nice even fuel induction.<br><br>Those two =
reasons are what makes the mixture "change" when you put a stack on. Not mo=
re air, per se, but quality of air flow. <br></div><div><br>Mike!</div><div=
><br><br></div><div>Michael Anderson<br>One of a Kind Stuff/AEU<br>775 772-=
2056</div><br> <div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times=
, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new=
york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <hr size=3D"1"> =
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:=
</span></b> Wayne & Isabel Hardy <gwhardy@suddenlink.net><br> <b>=
<span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> List for the Z Magnette G=
roup - North America <zmagnette@autox.team.net> <br> <b><span style=
=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, November 15, 2013 1:19 AM<=
br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Zmagnett=
e] Stub
stacks<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><br>=0A<div id=3D=
"yiv1013556227"><base>=0A<div dir=3D"ltr">=0A<div dir=3D"ltr">=0A<div style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE:14pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri';COLOR:#000000;">=0A<div><font size=
=3D"4">If the carbs are tuned again to compensate for more air to the =0Ain=
let, then more power should always be the result. If more power is =E2=80=
=9CBetter=E2=80=9D, =0Athen the answer is yes. But you must adjust for more=
airflow to get a more =0Abetter running motor..ie more air will need more =
fuel too if a result is to be =0Amore power. Maybe a new, slightly richer n=
eedle is the ticket to heaven. I know =0Athe K&N filter people caution =
that their filters flow so much more air than =0Athe usual paper ones, that=
a richer needle, or jet, or slight enrichment =0Aadjustment may be desirab=
le for best running.</font></div>=0A<div><font size=3D"4">Of course all thi=
s extra air flow is also likely to create =0Amore inlet roar under accelera=
tion. Is that =E2=80=9CBetter=E2=80=9D or not???</font></div>=0A<div><font =
size=3D"4">I personally run the MGA cleaner assemblies rather than the =0AM=
agnette one for better access to the carb adjustment screws for keeping up =
with =0Asummer 100 degree days now swinging to winter 50 - 60 degree days a=
nd the =0Aresultant changes in idle speeds due to cooler, denser air, and t=
he need to =0Arichen the mix by about 1/8th of a turn.</font></div>=0A<div>=
<font size=3D"4">MG put on the big old ugly oil bath filter for better engi=
ne =0Alife in a variety of dirty dusty operating situations around the worl=
d, and for =0Amore civilized operation in a quieter manner. Their true race=
motors ran with =0Avelocity stacks and no filters usually.</font></div>=0A=
<div><font size=3D"4"></font> </div>=0A<div><font size=3D"4">Wombat</f=
ont></div>=0A<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri';FONT-WEIGH=
T:normal;COLOR:#000000;FONT-STYLE:normal;TEXT-DECORATION:none;DISPLAY:inlin=
e;">=0A<div style=3D"FONT:10pt tahoma;">=0A<div> </div>=0A<div style=
=3D"BACKGROUND:#f5f5f5;">=0A<div style=3D""><b>From:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow=
" title=3D"bachldrs@comcast.net" ymailto=3D"mailto:bachldrs@comcast.net"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:bachldrs@comcast.net";>Allen Bachelder</a> </=
div>=0A<div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 14, 2013 10:21 PM</div>=0A<div>=
<b>To:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow" title=3D"zmagnette@autox.team.net" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:zmagn=
ette@autox.team.net">List for the Z Magnette Group - North =0AAmerica</a> <=
/div>=0A<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnette] Stub stacks</div></div></div>=
=0A<div> </div></div>=0A<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;FONT-FAMILY:'Cal=
ibri';FONT-WEIGHT:normal;COLOR:#000000;FONT-STYLE:normal;TEXT-DECORATION:no=
ne;DISPLAY:inline;">I'm =0Acautiously venturing beyond my paygrade here, bu=
t are we not talking about the =0ABernoulli Principle: stating that as air =
enters a conical tube the air pressure =0Ais maximized, but as the tube dia=
meter conically diminishes, air pressure =0Adecreases as air speed increase=
s inside the carb. Without a conical stub =0Astack, there is no accel=
eration in the air entering the carb inlet. How =0Amuch lift would we=
get from a cross-sectionally flat airplane wing-top with a =0Asquared-off =
leading edge? =0A<div> </div>=0A<div>That being said, how can the orig=
inal Magnette intake plenum perform any of =0Athis function? Same question =
for the intake plenums on T-series cars. I would =0Athink they would be Ber=
noullian disasters. Would a Magnette engine always =0Arun better with=
stub stacks rather than the original plenum?</div>=0A<div> </div>=0A<=
div>Curious in Michigan.</div>=0A<div> </div>=0A<div>(Allen)</div>=0A<=
div>=0A<div><span class=3D"yiv1013556227Apple-style-span" style=3D"WHITE-SP=
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CING:normal;LINE-HEIGHT:normal;TEXT-INDENT:0px;">=0A<div style=3D"WORD-WRAP=
:break-word;FONT-SIZE:12px;FONT-FAMILY:helvetica;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;COLOR:r=
gb(0,0,0);FONT-STYLE:normal;"><b><i>Allen =0A& Florrie Bachelder &=
nbsp; =3Diii=3D<<br>Spring =0ACreek Home for Way=
ward MGs</i></b></div>=0A<div style=3D"WORD-WRAP:break-word;FONT-SIZE:12px;=
FONT-FAMILY:helvetica;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-STYLE:normal=
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al;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-STYLE:normal;"><b><i>North =0AStreet, MI 48049, =
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PSE:separate;TEXT-TRANSFORM:none;WORD-SPACING:0px;ORPHANS:2;WIDOWS:2;LETTER=
-SPACING:normal;LINE-HEIGHT:normal;TEXT-INDENT:0px;">=0A<div style=3D"WORD-=
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pan></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div>=
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iv></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></span></div></span></span=
></div>=0A<div> </div>=0A<div>=0A<div>On Nov 13, 2013, at 7:33 PM, Joh=
n Park wrote:</div><br class=3D"yiv1013556227Apple-interchange-newline">=0A=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><span class=3D"yiv1013556227Apple-style-span" sty=
le=3D"WHITE-SPACE:normal;BORDER-COLLAPSE:separate;TEXT-TRANSFORM:none;WORD-=
SPACING:0px;FONT:medium helvetica;ORPHANS:2;WIDOWS:2;LETTER-SPACING:normal;=
TEXT-INDENT:0px;">=0A <div lang=3D"EN-US">=0A <div class=3D"yiv1013556227=
WordSection1" style=3D"">=0A <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Tim=
es New Roman', serif;MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:11pt;FON=
T-FAMILY:calibri, sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(31,73,125);">Depending =0A on lengt=
h it can produce a much smoother flow, some say a bit of a ram effect =0A =
which increases power and torque . Longer stacks as in longer runners means=
=0A more torque while shorter ones mean more power. Not lots, but i=
t all =0A contributes to a freer flowing intake which helps your freer flo=
wing exhaust =0A to make a bit more power/torque and slightly better fuel =
economy. You =0A note vintage racers usually have anywhere from2.5 t=
o 6 inch stacks. Some with =0A a stocking for a coarse filter, most just h=
oping nothing of consequence enters =0A the throat=E2=80=A6 I have a set o=
f 2.25 inch stacks in my 3.25 inch K&N=E2=80=99s on my =0A MGB and the=
y seem to help. Just the ho hum stock setup on my =0A Magnette.</span></di=
v> =0A <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Times New Roman', serif;M=
ARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:calibri, sans=
-serif;COLOR:rgb(31,73,125);"></span> </div>=0A <div>=0A <div style=
=3D"BORDER-LEFT-STYLE:none;BORDER-TOP:rgb(225,225,225) 1pt solid;BORDER-BOT=
TOM-STYLE:none;PADDING-BOTTOM:0in;PADDING-TOP:3pt;BORDER-RIGHT-STYLE:none;P=
ADDING-LEFT:0in;PADDING-RIGHT:0in;">=0A <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-=
FAMILY:'Times New Roman', serif;MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"><b><span style=3D"FONT=
-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style=3D=
"FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:calibri, sans-serif;"><span class=3D"yiv1013556=
227Apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel=3D"nofollow" style=3D"COLOR:b=
lue;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;" ymailto=3D"mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.t=
eam.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net"=
>zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net</a><span class=3D"yiv1013556227Apple-conv=
erted-space"> </span>[mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net]<span cl=
ass=3D"yiv1013556227Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<spa=
n class=3D"yiv1013556227Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Richard =0A=
Greenberg<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=3D"yiv1013556227Apple-converted-spac=
e"> </span>Wednesday, November 13, 2013 12:34 =0A PM<br><b>To:</b><sp=
an class=3D"yiv1013556227Apple-converted-space"> </span>List for the Z=
=0A Magnette Group - North America<br><b>Subject:</b><span class=3D"yiv10=
13556227Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Zmagnette] Stub =0A stack=
s</span></div></div></div> =0A <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'T=
imes New Roman', serif;MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"> </div>=0A <div style=3D=
"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Times New Roman', serif;MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;">W=
hat =0A is a stub stack? Would it allow for a filter that lies closer to t=
he engine =0A than a regular pancake filter?</div> =0A <div>=0A <div sty=
le=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Times New Roman', serif;MARGIN:0in 0in 0p=
t;"> </div>=0A <div>=0A <div>=0A <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT=
-FAMILY:'Times New Roman', serif;MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;">On =0A Nov 13, 2013,=
at 9:53 AM, Allen Bachelder wrote:</div></div> =0A <div style=3D"FONT-SIZ=
E:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Times New Roman', serif;MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"><br><br></=
div> =0A <blockquote style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM:5pt;MARGIN-TOP:5pt;">=0A <d=
iv>=0A <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Times New Roman', serif=
;MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;">I've =0A always just used the item #54 from the Mo=
ss catalog:<span class=3D"yiv1013556227Apple-converted-space"> </span>=
<a rel=3D"nofollow" style=3D"COLOR:blue;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;" target=
=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateI=
ndexID=3D28996#top">http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateI=
ndexID=3D28996#top</a><span class=3D"yiv1013556227Apple-converted-space">&n=
bsp;</span> Are these from APT or Rimmer =0A better?</div> =0A <div>=
=0A <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Times New Roman', serif;MA=
RGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"> </div></div>=0A <div>=0A <div style=3D"FONT=
-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Times New Roman', serif;MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;">Always=
=0A anxious to learn...</div></div> =0A <div>=0A <div style=3D"FO=
NT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Times New Roman', serif;MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;">Alle=
n</div> =0A <div>=0A <div>=0A <div>=0A <div>=0A <div style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Times New Roman', serif;MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;=
"><span class=3D"yiv1013556227apple-style-span"><b><i><span style=3D"FONT-S=
IZE:9pt;FONT-FAMILY:helvetica, sans-serif;">*******************************=
*********************************</span></i></b></span><span class=3D"yiv10=
13556227apple-style-span"><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:13.5pt;FONT-FAMILY:helve=
tica, sans-serif;"></span></span></div> =0A <div>=0A <div>=0A <div=
>=0A <div>=0A <div>=0A <div>=0A <div>=0A <div>=0A <div>=
=0A <div>=0A <div>=0A <div>=0A <div>=0A <div>=0A <div>=0A=
<div>=0A <div>=0A <div>=0A <div>=0A <div>=0A <div style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Times New Roman', serif;MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;=
"><b><i><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:9pt;FONT-FAMILY:helvetica, sans-serif;COLO=
R:black;">Allen =0A & Florrie Bachelder  =
; =0A =3Diii=3D<<br>Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs</span></i=
></b><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:9pt;COLOR:black;"></span></div></div> =0A =
<div>=0A <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Times New Roman', ser=
if;MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"><b><i><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:9pt;FONT-FAMILY:helv=
etica, sans-serif;COLOR:black;">'57 =0A ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT</s=
pan></i></b><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:9pt;FONT-FAMILY:helvetica, sans-serif;=
COLOR:black;"></span></div></div> =0A <div>=0A <div style=3D"FONT-SIZ=
E:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Times New Roman', serif;MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"><b><i><spa=
n style=3D"FONT-SIZE:9pt;FONT-FAMILY:helvetica, sans-serif;COLOR:black;">No=
rth =0A Street, MI 48049, USA</span></i></b><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:9pt=
;FONT-FAMILY:helvetica, sans-serif;COLOR:black;"></span></div></div></div><=
/div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></di=
v></div></div></div></div> =0A <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:=
'Times New Roman', serif;MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"><span class=3D"yiv1013556227a=
pple-style-span"><b><i><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:9pt;FONT-FAMILY:helvetica, =
sans-serif;"><a rel=3D"nofollow" style=3D"COLOR:blue;TEXT-DECORATION:underl=
ine;" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs=
">http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs</a></span></i></b></span><spa=
n class=3D"yiv1013556227apple-style-span"><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:13.5pt;"=
></span></span></div> =0A <div>=0A <div>=0A <div>=0A <div>=0A =
<div>=0A <div>=0A <div>=0A <div>=0A <div>=0A <div>=0A <=
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>=0A <div>=0A <div>=0A <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'T=
imes New Roman', serif;MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"><span class=3D"yiv1013556227app=
le-style-span"><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:9pt;FONT-FAMILY:helvetica, sans-ser=
if;COLOR:black;">**********************************************************=
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v></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div> =0A <div style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Times New Roman', serif;MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;=
"> </div>=0A <div>=0A <div>=0A <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;=
FONT-FAMILY:'Times New Roman', serif;MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;">On =0A Nov 13,=
2013, at 4:10 AM,<span class=3D"yiv1013556227Apple-converted-space"> =
</span><a rel=3D"nofollow" style=3D"COLOR:blue;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:monster@caverock.net.nz"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto=
:monster@caverock.net.nz">monster@caverock.net.nz</a><span class=3D"yiv1013=
556227Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:</div></div> =0A <div st=
yle=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Times New Roman', serif;MARGIN:0in 0in 0=
pt;"><br><br></div> =0A <blockquote style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM:5pt;MARGIN-TO=
P:5pt;">=0A <div>=0A <div class=3D"yiv1013556227MsoNormal" style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Times New Roman', serif;MARGIN:0in 0in 12pt=
;">Hi =0A everyone,<br><br>I'd like to get a pair of 1.5" H4 stub stac=
ks and I've =0A tried emailing Steve Ash several times to see if he wo=
uld make some more, =0A but I haven't got an answer from him.<br><br>S=
o... from a light scour of =0A the internet there appears to be two ty=
pes available at a reasonable =0A cost:<br>$32.50 ea -<a rel=3D"nofoll=
ow" style=3D"COLOR:blue;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"http://www.aptfast.com/ShowItem/101221%20Billet%20Alloy%20Stub%20Stack%=
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