-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Solow <gregmogdoc@surfnetusa.com>
To: mike jackson <grand_wazoo@flinet.com>; clark <clark@dnf.com>
Cc: vintage-race@Autox.Team.Net <vintage-race@Autox.Team.Net>
Date: Saturday, April 25, 1998 1:07 AM
Subject: Re: Dayton wire wheels
>Mike Jackson is certainly correct when he states that the type of wire
>wheels and the weight of the car are very important. I have been racing my
>1900 lb. Morgan since 1979 using Dunlop 72 spoke wire wheels. I have been
>using Goodyear 500-15 "sports car special" vintage tires and various other
>street radials. I have never had even a loose spoke! recently I have been
>using Yokahama A 008 R tires. These are one inch wider and way stickier.
>I am still experiencing no problems. I have hit curbs in the past, while
>driving on the street, hard enough to bend over the outer rim of the wheel,
>and the wheel itself still ran true. My experience leads me to believe
that
>on a car of up to about 2300 lbs. or so,with tires up to 7" wide, you will
>not experience any wheel problems if the wheels are in excellent condition
>when you start out. My experience is with Dunlop wheels. Dayton may not
>give the same results, I have no experience with them.
> 60 spoke wheels are probably ok on a car of up to 1500 lbs. I know
that
>in the early 60's, Lew Spencer had problems breaking spokes on Dunlop 60
>spoke wheels on his Morgan Super Sport using the Goodyear tires that were
>the state of the art racing tires at the time. His car weighted about 1725
>lbs.-----Original Message-----
> 48 spoke wire wheels should probably not be used for any racing .
> The test on my own car is probably a pretty good one as I drive pretty
>hard. My lap times at Laguna Seca on Goodyears are about 1:55 and at Sears
>Point about 2:03. At Thunderhill last week on the 2.9 mile new track on
>Yokohamas we got into the 2:19 range.
> Best wishes,
> Greg Solow aka Gregmogdoc
>From: mike jackson <grand_wazoo@flinet.com>
>To: clark <clark@dnf.com>
>Cc: vintage-race@Autox.Team.Net <vintage-race@Autox.Team.Net>
>Date: Wednesday, April 22, 1998 2:15 PM
>Subject: Re: Dayton wire wheels
>
>
>>I'd consider very carefully what I was trying to achieve with my vintage
>>racer before running on wires. For a light car, with skinny tires that
>>are not too sticky, I'd say maybe as long as you have high spoke count
>>(72) and are going to be driving somewhat below the limit of the tires.
>>It would make a lovely car, but dont put on Hoosier's best and start
>>pushing really hard for the front of the pack.
>>
>>Tires have gotten soooo much stickier over the years that the cornering
>>loads that can be developed on a vintage racer far exceed anything
>>imagined when the wire wheels were developed.
>>
>>I dont even race on stock steel wheels on my TR3 anymore, I broke 3 of
>>them! Fortunately we discovered each before total failure but it
>>wasn't a little crack, it was going to come apart. Granted the TR is
>>really quite heavy at 2000+ lbs but its your life we're dealing with
>>here, and maybe mine if I'm on the track with you.
>>
>>mike jackson
>>
>>clark wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Are any vintage racers running period Dayton wire wheels? Assuming a
>>> lightweight car and correct, vintage tires, would these things be safe
>and
>>> reliable? Dayton can rebuild them with stainless steel wires and the
>>> originals are "bead laced" as opposed to todays version.
>>>
>>> Please don't assume I know what I'm talking about... I'm probably
>>> embarking on another maintenance nightmare, right?
>>>
>>> Clark
>>>
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