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Other Forums have places like the Triumph Experience has =E2=80=9CThe =
Pub=E2=80=9D where drunken fist-throwing virtual drive-by shooting =
conversations can be had, but even those forums have very strict rules =
against direct attacks on its members. =20
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I will never tolerate direct attacks on another member, nor does this =
list allow direct attacks in its use policy.
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The better response by me, and possibly every other member could or =
should be:=20
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=E2=80=9Chey xyz member, your post violates the terms of use of this =
list, please withdraw your post, publicly apologize or =
unsubscribe.=E2=80=9D=20
=E2=80=A6 with a link to the list terms and the unsubscribe process. =20
=20
That is proper decorum and responsible self-moderation by the terms of =
use for this list.
=20
I=E2=80=99ve not used the list is the past for political purposes or =
intentional violent personal attacks, however the posts of those few =
others were and are so far outside the use policy and self-moderated =
decorum for this list that frankly I had enough of the personal attacks.
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I will make apologies to this list for my atomic weapon going over the =
top in direct response to the personal attacks; but I will not withdraw =
it as it is a perfect example of what personal attacks are not in scope =
of this list, and should be self-moderated.
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This teams dot net has always self-moderated itself because the users =
typically held themselves to some level higher level of decorum because =
they were considered =E2=80=9Cresponsible members=E2=80=9D who agreed to =
the terms of use. Flame war personal attacks were never allowed.
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Passionate hobby enthusiasm about our vehicles is far different than =
directly attacking other enthusiasts, and when that happens, a =
responsible person unsubscribes when they cannot self-moderate, and a =
responsible list user calls them out on their abuse of the list terms.
=20
I did not start the battle nor have I leveraged the forums in the past =
for political reasons.=20
=20
The attacks by several members were deliberate and targeted made to =
incite a political flame war, so it needed to be moderated by the =
responsible users of this list and the posters notified the content was =
so far outside the purpose of this mail list they should be warned or =
banned. =20
=20
Those who decide to unsubscribe from this list because they cannot =
freely attack other members on this list or separate their politics from =
the hobby, that is entirely their right and is the rules of using this =
list.
=20
The only flags flown here should be those of Standard Triumph, British =
Leyland, JLR, or if one=E2=80=99s politics so consume your life that it =
cannot be separated from this hobby in the list posts or at marque =
shows, please leave.
=20
Other apologies from the other offenders are in order and required.
=20
Glenn A. Merrell
a.k.a. StagByTriumph
=20
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Greg Lemon
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2026 7:01 AM
Cc: Triumph List <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Politics and the Triumph List
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I belong to a huge online forum, the garage journal, some of you.may be =
members too. It has a strict no politics rule. If you break it you are =
kicked out.
=20
It works, and you avoid the stuff we went through. Mark doesn't get =
paid enough to be traffic cop here and I hate to ascribe thoughts to a =
person, but I wouldn't be surprised if when he sees stuff like this he =
thinks about just shutting it all down.
=20
I have strong feelings about this stuff too, express them some places, =
not here, time and place gents, time and place.
=20
Greg Lemon
TR250
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class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>All;<o:p></o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Other Forums =
have places like the Triumph Experience has =E2=80=9CThe Pub=E2=80=9D =
where drunken fist-throwing virtual drive-by shooting conversations can =
be had, but even those forums have very strict rules against direct =
attacks on its members.=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I will never =
tolerate direct attacks on another member, nor does this list allow =
direct attacks in its use policy.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>The better =
response by me, and possibly every other member could or should be: =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>=E2=80=9Chey =
xyz member, your post violates the terms of use of this list, please =
withdraw your post, publicly apologize or unsubscribe.=E2=80=9D =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>=E2=80=A6 =
with a link to the list terms and the unsubscribe process. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>That is =
proper decorum and responsible self-moderation by the terms of use for =
this list.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I=E2=80=99ve =
not used the list is the past for political purposes or intentional =
violent personal attacks, however the posts of those few others were and =
are so far outside the use policy and self-moderated decorum for this =
list that frankly I had enough of the personal =
attacks.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I will make =
apologies to this list for my atomic weapon going over the top in direct =
response to the personal attacks; but I will not withdraw it as it is a =
perfect example of what personal attacks are not in scope of this list, =
and should be self-moderated.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>This teams =
dot net has always self-moderated itself because the users typically =
held themselves to some level higher level of decorum because they were =
considered =E2=80=9Cresponsible members=E2=80=9D who agreed to the terms =
of use.=C2=A0 Flame war personal attacks were never =
allowed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Passionate =
hobby enthusiasm about our vehicles is far different than directly =
attacking other enthusiasts, and when that happens, a responsible person =
unsubscribes when they cannot self-moderate, and a responsible list user =
calls them out on their abuse of the list terms.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I did not =
start the battle nor have I leveraged the forums in the past for =
political reasons. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>The attacks =
by several members were deliberate and targeted made to incite a =
political flame war, so it needed to be moderated by the responsible =
users of this list and the posters notified the content was so far =
outside the purpose of this mail list they should be warned or =
banned.=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Those who =
decide to unsubscribe from this list because they cannot freely attack =
other members on this list or separate their politics from the hobby, =
that is entirely their right and is the rules of using this =
list.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>The only =
flags flown here should be those of Standard Triumph, British Leyland, =
JLR, or if one=E2=80=99s politics so consume your life that it cannot be =
separated from this hobby in the list posts or at marque shows, please =
leave.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Other =
apologies from the other offenders are in order and =
required.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Glenn A. =
Merrell<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>a.k.a. =
StagByTriumph<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </=
o:p></span></p><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Greg Lemon<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 7, 2026 7:01 =
AM<br><b>Cc:</b> Triumph List =
<triumphs@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Politics and =
the Triumph List<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal>I belong =
to a huge online forum, the garage journal, some of you.may be members =
too. It has a strict no politics rule. If you break it you =
are kicked out.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>It works, and you avoid the stuff we went =
through. Mark doesn't get paid enough to be traffic cop here and I =
hate to ascribe thoughts to a person, but I wouldn't be surprised if =
when he sees stuff like this he thinks about just shutting it all =
down.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
have strong feelings about this stuff too, express them some =
places, not here, time and place gents, time and =
place.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Greg Lemon<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>TR250<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>
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