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To: Bob Danielson <75TR6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org>
Subject: Re: [TR] Speedo Conversion
From: David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 20:17:02 -0400
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Perhaps not, Bob. But the tall trees bordering a narrow road scenario is
far more common. TerriAnn makes a valid point..

On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 6:24 PM Bob Danielson <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.or=
g>
wrote:

> I=E2=80=99ve heard the GPS tunnel argument before and I have to chuckle e=
very
> time=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6 How often do you drive through a tunnel? I can saf=
ely say the TR6
> has never been in a tunnel in my  26 years of ownership=E2=80=A6..oops=E2=
=80=A6 I take that
> back=E2=80=A6 it has gone though the tunnel in New Haven that=E2=80=99s a=
bout =C2=BD mile and we
> survived. . Why do you need the speedo in a tunnel? You usually can only =
go
> as fast as the guy in front of you and tunnel speeds typically drop about
> 10 mph as soon as folks get in one. I=E2=80=99m surprised you don=E2=80=
=99t know your speed
> by looking at your tach. If you do go through a tunnel, how long is it? 2
> or 3 miles perhaps. You can=E2=80=99t live without your speedo for 3 mile=
s? And
> again I say=E2=80=A6 look at your tach. Let=E2=80=99s face it, the tunnel=
 argument is weak
> at best.
>
>
>
> Bob Danielson
> TR6 Interior Panels, Boot Covers and Fender Blankets
> http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm
>
>
>
> *From: *TeriAnn J. Wakeman <tjwakeman@gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, June 28, 2023 12:52 PM
> *To: *triumphs@autox.team.net
> *Subject: *Re: [TR] Speedo Conversion
>
>
>
> On 6/28/23 4:47 AM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote:
>
> I have toyed wit the idea of a GPS conversion =E2=80=93 as you say, they =
are very
> accurate =E2=80=93 but I didn=E2=80=99t like the idea of the speedo dropp=
ing to zero if I
> drove through a tunnel.
>
> I have a VDO GPS speedometer in my 1960 Land Rover. How well it works
> depends on how much of the sky the sender can see. And yes, a road lined =
by
> tall trees with narrows the sensor's view of the sky keeps it from workin=
g
> unless there is a satellite in the open space. I didn't want to drill a
> hole in my roof or compromise door/windscreen seals so mounted mine on th=
e
> windscreen in front of the rear view mirror. So a satellite needs to be i=
n
> front of me for the GPS to work. How well a GPS speedo works is determine=
d
> by how much sky it can see. My mounting it inside on the windscreen I
> severely limited what my sensor can see.
>
> On the other hand, the GPS has allowed me to determine speed by watching
> the tach, so when my GPS cannot see a sat, I look at the tach to determin=
e
> my speed.
>
> TeriAnn
>
>
>
> Your gauges look great =E2=80=93 I have just ordered a set of magnolia ga=
uges with
> leds from West Valley.
>
>
>
> Andrew Uprichard
>
> Jackson, MI
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net>
> <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Bob Danielson
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 27, 2023 8:27 PM
> *To:* jhmdds@aol.com; triumphs@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] Speedo Conversion
>
>
>
> One of the projects I never documented on my web site was the conversion
> of my tach to electronic and my speedo to GPS back in 2013. I sent both
> stock gauges to Morris at West Valley and he not only converted them but =
he
> had his =E2=80=9Cartist=E2=80=9D repaint the faces Magnolia.  The speedo =
now has GPS
> innards, a power lead and an antenna (hidden under the ashtray). I=E2=80=
=99ve
> tracked the speed against both my Garmin GPS and Waze and it=E2=80=99s sp=
ot on
> perfect. The beauty of a GPS speedo is there=E2=80=99s no need for a tran=
ny cable
> and it doesn=E2=80=99t care about the rear end ratio or your tire size=E2=
=80=A6.. it just
> tracks you in real time.
>
>
>
> Bob Danielson
> TR6 Interior Panels, Boot Covers and Fender Blankets
> http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm
>
>
>
> *From: *jhmdds@aol.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, June 27, 2023 10:37 AM
> *To: *triumphs@autox.team.net
> *Subject: *[TR] Speedo Conversion
>
>
>
> "
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> I'm looking for recommendations for converting the speedometer on my '75
> TR6 with the Toyota 5 speed transmission to an electronic style.
> Alternatively I'm looking for a 90 degree drive angle connector from the
> transmission to the speedo cable.
>
>
>
> Thanks for the help,
>
>
>
> James Maddox
>
> ")
>
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Perhaps not, Bob. But the tall trees bordering a narrow r=
oad scenario is far more common. TerriAnn makes a valid point..</div><div><=
br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed,=
 Jun 28, 2023 at 6:24 PM Bob Danielson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:75tr6@tr6.dani=
elsonfamily.org">75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c=
cc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"#954F=
72" style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div class=3D"m_-4524274184575158848Word=
Section1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99ve heard the GPS tunnel argument=
 before and I have to chuckle every time=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6 How often do you=
 drive through a tunnel? I can safely say the TR6 has never been in a tunne=
l in my=C2=A0 26 years of ownership=E2=80=A6..oops=E2=80=A6 I take that bac=
k=E2=80=A6 it has gone though the tunnel in New Haven that=E2=80=99s about =
=C2=BD mile and we survived. . Why do you need the speedo in a tunnel? You =
usually can only go as fast as the guy in front of you and tunnel speeds ty=
pically drop about 10 mph as soon as folks get in one. I=E2=80=99m surprise=
d you don=E2=80=99t know your speed by looking at your tach. If you do go t=
hrough a tunnel, how long is it? 2 or 3 miles perhaps. You can=E2=80=99t li=
ve without your speedo for 3 miles? And again I say=E2=80=A6 look at your t=
ach. Let=E2=80=99s face it, the tunnel argument is weak at best. =C2=A0</p>=
</div></div><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"#954F72" style=3D"wo=
rd-wrap:break-word"><div class=3D"m_-4524274184575158848WordSection1"><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Bob Daniel=
son<br>TR6 Interior Panels, Boot Covers and Fender Blankets<br><a href=3D"h=
ttp://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm" target=3D"_blank">http:/=
/tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm</a></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"border:non=
e;padding:0in"><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:tjwakeman@gmail.com"; target=
=3D"_blank">TeriAnn J. Wakeman</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, June 28, 2023=
 12:52 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [TR] Speedo =
Conversion</p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">On 6/28/23 4:47 AM, auprichard <a href=3D"http://uprich=
ard.net" target=3D"_blank">uprichard.net</a> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div>=
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal">I have toyed wit the idea of a GPS conversion =E2=80=93 as you say, =
they are very accurate =E2=80=93 but I didn=E2=80=99t like the idea of the =
speedo dropping to zero if I drove through a tunnel.<u></u><u></u></p></blo=
ckquote><p>I have a VDO GPS speedometer in my 1960 Land Rover. How well it =
works depends on how much of the sky the sender can see. And yes, a road li=
ned by tall trees with narrows the sensor&#39;s view of the sky keeps it fr=
om working unless there is a satellite in the open space. I didn&#39;t want=
 to drill a hole in my roof or compromise door/windscreen seals so mounted =
mine on the windscreen in front of the rear view mirror. So a satellite nee=
ds to be in front of me for the GPS to work. How well a GPS speedo works is=
 determined by how much sky it can see. My mounting it inside on the windsc=
reen I severely limited what my sensor can see.</p><p>On the other hand, th=
e GPS has allowed me to determine speed by watching the tach, so when my GP=
S cannot see a sat, I look at the tach to determine my speed.</p><p>TeriAnn=
</p><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Your gauges look =
great =E2=80=93 I have just ordered a set of magnolia gauges with leds from=
 West Valley.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Andrew Uprichard<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">Jackson, MI<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u=
></u></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padd=
ing:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs <a href=
=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">&lt;triumphs-=
bounces@autox.team.net&gt;</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Danielson<br><b>Sent=
:</b> Tuesday, June 27, 2023 8:27 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:jhmdds=
@aol.com" target=3D"_blank">jhmdds@aol.com</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@=
autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject=
:</b> Re: [TR] Speedo Conversion<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">One of the project=
s I never documented on my web site was the conversion of my tach to electr=
onic and my speedo to GPS back in 2013. I sent both stock gauges to Morris =
at West Valley and he not only converted them but he had his =E2=80=9Cartis=
t=E2=80=9D repaint the faces Magnolia.=C2=A0 The speedo now has GPS innards=
, a power lead and an antenna (hidden under the ashtray). I=E2=80=99ve trac=
ked the speed against both my Garmin GPS and Waze and it=E2=80=99s spot on =
perfect. The beauty of a GPS speedo is there=E2=80=99s no need for a tranny=
 cable and it doesn=E2=80=99t care about the rear end ratio or your tire si=
ze=E2=80=A6.. it just tracks you in real time.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Bob Danielson<br=
>TR6 Interior Panels, Boot Covers and Fender Blankets<br><a href=3D"http://=
tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm" target=3D"_blank">http://tr6.d=
anielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid =
#e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From: </=
b><a href=3D"mailto:jhmdds@aol.com"; target=3D"_blank">jhmdds@aol.com</a><br=
><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, June 27, 2023 10:37 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mail=
to:triumphs@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><b=
r><b>Subject: </b>[TR] Speedo Conversion<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&quot;<u></u><u>=
</u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi All,<u></u><u></u></p></div><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">I&#39;m looking for recommendations for converting the speedometer =
on my &#39;75 TR6 with the Toyota 5 speed transmission to an electronic sty=
le.=C2=A0 Alternatively I&#39;m looking for a 90 degree drive angle connect=
or from the transmission to the speedo cable. =C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div=
><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">Thanks for the help,<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">James Ma=
ddox<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&quot;)<u></u><u><=
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