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Re: [TR] TR 3 Engine Colour

To: DAVE HOGYE <dlhogye@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR 3 Engine Colour
From: Don Hiscock <don.hiscock@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2023 11:14:13 -0500
Cc: Edward Hamer <hdrider570@att.net>, "triumphs@autox.team.net" <triumphs@autox.team.net>
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My friend Bob had the FRE engine out of his car in 2013, a couple of years
before I snapped that photo of his rebuild tag, and while he didn't open up
the engine he did paint the block black.  And he has no recollection of
what it was prior to that.  Coulda been rebuild-blue/green, but no info.

On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 10:15=E2=80=AFAM Don Hiscock <don.hiscock@gmail.com=
> wrote:

> I have to double check with the owner of the TR3 with that FRE posted
> earlier... Perhaps his IS blue-gray-green, too and it was just black with
> fifty years of grime when I visited him.
>
> On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 10:12=E2=80=AFAM DAVE HOGYE <dlhogye@comcast.net>=
 wrote:
>
>> This Vanguard engine is from a Renown Razor Edge.  Painted a metallic
>> blue.
>> Dave H.
>>
>> On 06/15/2023 5:40 AM PDT Don Hiscock <don.hiscock@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> That would be news to me. The factory reconditioned engines I've seen in
>> the UK were painted cheap black paint (as Jonmac notes) and got a specia=
l
>> FRE plate covering the original engine number.
>>
>> Some suppliers to the UK car industry did use different paint to denote
>> reconditioned parts.  I believe that's the reason we sometimes see Lucas
>> parts like wiper motors in a grayish-greenish-bluish color instead of th=
e
>> standard black.  A friend of mine told me once during his time as a moto=
r
>> factor that he sold remaindered gray-green-blue paint to one of the
>> manufacturers so it could all be blended together and used on reconditio=
ned
>> parts...
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 11:21=E2=80=AFPM Edward Hamer <hdrider570@att.ne=
t>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I seem to remember that the factory painted replacement engines red.
>>
>> Edward Hamer
>> Petaluma CA
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">My =
friend Bob had the FRE engine out of his car in 2013, a couple of years bef=
ore I snapped that photo of his rebuild tag, and while he didn&#39;t open u=
p the engine he did paint the block black.=C2=A0 And he has no recollection=
 of what it was prior to that.=C2=A0 Coulda been rebuild-blue/green, but no=
 info.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"=
gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 10:15=E2=80=AFAM Don Hiscock &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:don.hiscock@gmail.com";>don.hiscock@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>=
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;b=
order-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">I have to double check=
 with=C2=A0the owner of the TR3 with that FRE=C2=A0posted earlier... Perhap=
s his IS blue-gray-green, too and it was just black with fifty years of gri=
me when I visited him.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 10:12=E2=80=AFAM DAVE=
 HOGYE &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dlhogye@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank">dlhogye=
@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddin=
g-left:1ex"><u></u>

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  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)"> <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">This =
Vanguard engine is from a Renown Razor Edge.=C2=A0 Painted a metallic blue.=
</span>=20
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  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)"> <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">Dave =
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     On 06/15/2023 5:40 AM PDT Don Hiscock &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:don.hiscoc=
k@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">don.hiscock@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:=20
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    <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">
      That would be news to me. The factory reconditioned engines I&#39;ve =
seen in the UK were painted cheap black paint (as Jonmac notes) and got a s=
pecial FRE plate covering the original engine number.=20
    </div>=20
    <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">=20
     <img src=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-XvTTKzN/0/26f8c2fc/X5/=
i-XvTTKzN-X5.jpg" width=3D"562" height=3D"375">=20
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    <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">
      Some suppliers to the UK car industry did use different paint to deno=
te reconditioned parts.=C2=A0 I believe that&#39;s the reason we sometimes =
see Lucas parts like wiper motors in a grayish-greenish-bluish color instea=
d of the standard black.=C2=A0 A friend of mine told me once during his tim=
e as a motor factor that he sold remaindered gray-green-blue paint to one o=
f the manufacturers so it could all be blended together and used on recondi=
tioned parts...=20
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      On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 11:21=E2=80=AFPM Edward Hamer &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:hdrider570@att.net"; target=3D"_blank">hdrider570@att.net</a>&gt; wro=
te:=20
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        I seem to remember that the factory painted replacement engines red=
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        Petaluma CA=20
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