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Re: [TR] Interesting Dayton Wire Wheel Experience

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Subject: Re: [TR] Interesting Dayton Wire Wheel Experience
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Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2021 14:13:21 -0500
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We also have 7=E2=80=9D Konig Rewinds with very fat sticky tires.  Love =
it

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Before:  https://www.ranteer.com/davescars/tr6/Car%2052%20AC%205.jpg

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After: https://www.ranteer.com/davescars/tr6/Resized_20190929_161509.jpg

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From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Greg Lemon
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 10:32 AM
To: Cliff Hansen <cliff_hansen@outlook.com>
Cc: TR List <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Interesting Dayton Wire Wheel Experience

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I have Konig Rewinds on my TR250, originally with 205/65-15s, now with =
205-60s.  They are 7" wide.  You can still find them for a little over =
$100, though I don't think you can get the silver color anymore, only =
the dark.

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No problem with tires or wheels on the back.  The front inner lip would =
rub on the top end of the front suspension fulcrum at full lock in =
reverse until I added spacers and ground down the end of the arms a =
little bit.

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If I had to do it over again and cost was no object would probably go =
with 6" wheels and same size tires.

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Greg Lemon

TR250

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On Sun, Jun 27, 2021, 10:00 AM Cliff Hansen <cliff_hansen@outlook.com =

Drool=E2=80=A6

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Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 6:32 AM
Subject: Re: [TR] Interesting Dayton Wire Wheel Experience

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I love the Rotas and heard from vintage racers they like them too.  I =
have them on my 81 TR8 in 15 inch size and love the look. Jim=20

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On Jun 27, 2021, at 8:21 AM, Paul Tegler <ptegler@verizon.net =

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Ditto.

suggestion.... check out Rota RB wheels  MUCH cheaper than the =
Panasports and MUCH lighter, also DOT legal!
https://www.18racing.com/collections/rb?page=3D4     Sharper lines on =
the spokes, colors avail....

kinda' sucks (the web site) not as easy to find the fitment as before =
but the number is this the wheel size, you just need to find the right =
PCD

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nfi, just a very happy customer. Had them on my Miatas, my MG, my =
Triumphs, even almost put them on my Vette!   :-)

ptegler

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On 6/27/2021 8:07 AM, Jerry V V wrote:

I run 205/ 60 R15 tires on a TR4A which is lowered 1 inch with no =
rubbing issues. They are mounted on 6" Panasport wheels. I'm thinking =
your problem was wheel offset related and not the tire size. I'm aware =
of several others who also run this size on TR250 and TR6 cars as well.=20

JVV

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From: "Jim Henningsen"=20
To: "bill beecher"
Cc: "TR List"
Sent: Saturday June 26 2021 9:51:00PM
Subject: Re: [TR] Interesting Dayton Wire Wheel Experience

Nice. I think the 205s were just too much fir a 4a. I was concerned the =
165 would be too narrow on a 6 inch rim and 185s are a lot mor expensive

> On Jun 26, 2021, at 9:19 PM, bill beecher  =
>
> =EF=BB=BFI went to 6=E2=80=9D mini lites on my last TR3 but stayed =
with the 165/15 Vredesteins, on the advise of Ted Schumacher. Worked a =
treat, more rubber on the ground, lighter weight, solid handling.
> Bill
>
> Sent from my TRS80
>
> On Jun 26, 2021, at 6:26 PM, James Henningsen  =
>
> =EF=BB=BFI am now. I bought 15 x 4.5 chrome wires from British Wire =
Wheel. They had a 20% off sale. On the Dayton=E2=80=99s I had 205 65 15 =
as they have almost identical diameter as 165 80 15. Jim
>
>> On Jun 26, 2021, at 5:37 PM, bill beecher  =
>>
>> =EF=BB=BFInteresting account, are you running 165/15 tyres?
>>
>> Sent from my TRS80
>>
>> On Jun 26, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Jim Henningsen  =
>>
>> =EF=BB=BFList:
>> I am refreshing my 72k orig mile 67 TR4A IRS. Decided to put on a new =
set
>> of Dayton wire wheels for a Triumph TR250 or TR6. These are the BEST =
wire
>> wheels out there and still Made in America! 72 spoke, 15 x 6 inch =
TUBELESS
>> design. You do not need inner tubes. I bought these for my Triumph =
TR4A but
>> they did not look right (too wide) and actually caused a rubbing of =
the top
>> center front inner fender that cut a groove in the new tire. Didn't =
effect
>> the wire wheel. I was surprised as these say they fir the 250. I =
decided
>> to dismount the tires since the the 4A has 4.5 inch rim width but I =
thought
>> these would be ok on a 4A.
>>
>> I installed new tires on them and put them on the 4A and drove 1 mile =
and
>> back into the garage. Took them off and had tires dismounted. They =
have no
>> scratches or curb rash and look like they did when they came out of =
the
>> original Dayton boxes. Still have the red stickers on the front of =
wheel
>> that are to be removed by tire dealer. Unfortunately, my tire install =
shop
>> threw the boxes away so I do not have them anymore. They will come in =
the
>> Rota alloy wheel boxes that I got when I bought new 15" alloys for my
>> Triumph TR8.
>>
>> If you are looking for a great deal on a practically new perfect set =
of
>> Daton wire wheels, please contact me off list. They are listed at the =
link
>> below. Sorry to put this on the list but want to help out a fellow TR =
list
>> member who might like a deal and alert folks who might want to try =
similar
>> arrangements on their 4A.
>>
>> =
https://ocala.craigslist.org/pts/d/ocala-dayton-wire-wheels-triumph-tr250=
/73 =
<https://ocala.craigslist.org/pts/d/ocala-dayton-wire-wheels-triumph-tr25=
0/73%3Cbr>=20
/> >> 42557271.html
>>
>> Jim Henningsen
>> Ocala FL
>> 61 3A
>> 67 4A
>> 75 6
>> 81 8
>>
>>
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>We also =
have 7=E2=80=9D Konig Rewinds with very fat sticky tires.=C2=A0 Love =
it<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Before:=C2=A0 <a =
href=3D"https://www.ranteer.com/davescars/tr6/Car%2052%20AC%205.jpg";>http=
s://www.ranteer.com/davescars/tr6/Car%2052%20AC%205.jpg</a><o:p></o:p></p=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>After: =
<a =
href=3D"https://www.ranteer.com/davescars/tr6/Resized_20190929_161509.jpg=
">https://www.ranteer.com/davescars/tr6/Resized_20190929_161509.jpg</a><o=
:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>And:=C2=A0 <a =
href=3D"https://www.ranteer.com/davescars/tr6/20200127_073933_resized.jpg=
">https://www.ranteer.com/davescars/tr6/20200127_073933_resized.jpg</a><o=
:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> =
Triumphs &lt;triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Greg Lemon<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 27, 2021 10:32 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> Cliff Hansen =
&lt;cliff_hansen@outlook.com&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> TR List =
&lt;triumphs@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Interesting =
Dayton Wire Wheel Experience<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I have =
Konig Rewinds on my TR250, originally with 205/65-15s, now with =
205-60s.&nbsp; They are 7&quot; wide.&nbsp; You can still find them for =
a little over $100, though I don't think you can get the silver color =
anymore, only the dark.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>No problem with tires or wheels on the back.&nbsp; The =
front inner lip would rub on the top end of the front suspension fulcrum =
at full lock in reverse until I added spacers and ground down the end of =
the arms a little bit.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>If I had to do it over again and cost was no object =
would probably go with 6&quot; wheels and same size =
tires.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Greg Lemon<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>TR250<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Sun, Jun 27, 2021, 10:00 AM Cliff Hansen &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:cliff_hansen@outlook.com";>cliff_hansen@outlook.com</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Drool=E2=80=A6=
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Sent from =
<a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986"; =
target=3D"_blank">Mail</a> for Windows 10<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
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1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From: =
</b><a href=3D"mailto:trguy75@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">Jim =
Henningsen</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, June 27, 2021 6:32 AM<br><b>To: =
</b><a href=3D"mailto:ptegler@verizon.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">ptegler@verizon.net</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">TR =
List</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [TR] Interesting Dayton Wire Wheel =
Experience<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I love the =
Rotas and heard from vintage racers they like them too.&nbsp; I have =
them on my 81 TR8 in 15 inch size and love the look. =
Jim&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><img =
border=3D0 width=3D1280 height=3D960 =
style=3D'width:13.3333in;height:10.0in' =
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src=3D"cid:26EBCA85-27BD-42E9-9C29-F93413A2E523"><o:p></o:p></p></div><di=
v><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><img border=3D0 =
width=3D1280 height=3D960 style=3D'width:13.3333in;height:10.0in' =
id=3D"m_-2037092336061064733Picture_x0020_4" =
src=3D"cid:FA1AB0E0-63CE-4518-9DDC-46EAE61BAE81"><o:p></o:p></p><blockquo=
te style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Jun 27, 2021, =
at 8:21 AM, Paul Tegler &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ptegler@verizon.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">ptegler@verizon.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>=EF=BB=BF =
<o:p></o:p></p><p>Ditto.<o:p></o:p></p><p>suggestion.... check out Rota =
RB wheels&nbsp; MUCH cheaper than the Panasports and MUCH lighter, also =
DOT legal!<br><a =
href=3D"https://www.18racing.com/collections/rb?page=3D4"; =
target=3D"_blank">https://www.18racing.com/collections/rb?page=3D4&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </a>Sharper lines on the spokes, colors =
avail....<o:p></o:p></p><p>kinda' sucks (the web site) not as easy to =
find the fitment as before but the number is this the wheel size, you =
just need to find the right =
PCD<o:p></o:p></p><p>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p>nfi, just a very happy =
customer. Had them on my Miatas, my MG, my Triumphs, even almost put =
them on my Vette!&nbsp;&nbsp; =
:-)<o:p></o:p></p><p>ptegler<o:p></o:p></p><p>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><=
p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On =
6/27/2021 8:07 AM, Jerry V V wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I run 205/ =
60 R15 tires on a TR4A which is lowered 1 inch with no rubbing issues. =
They are mounted on 6&quot; Panasport wheels. I'm thinking your problem =
was wheel offset related and not the tire size. I'm aware of several =
others who also run this size on TR250 and TR6 cars as well. =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>JVV<o:p></o:p></p>=
<p>-----------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>From: =
&quot;Jim Henningsen&quot; <br>To: &quot;bill beecher&quot;<br>Cc: =
&quot;TR List&quot;<br>Sent: Saturday June 26 2021 9:51:00PM<br>Subject: =
Re: [TR] Interesting Dayton Wire Wheel Experience<br><br>Nice. I think =
the 205s were just too much fir a 4a. I was concerned the 165 would be =
too narrow on a 6 inch rim and 185s are a lot mor expensive<br><br>&gt; =
On Jun 26, 2021, at 9:19 PM, bill beecher <a =
href=3D"mailto:notakitcar@yahoo.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">&lt;notakitcar@yahoo.com&gt;</a> =
wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; =EF=BB=BFI went to 6=E2=80=9D mini lites on my =
last TR3 but stayed with the 165/15 Vredesteins, on the advise of Ted =
Schumacher. Worked a treat, more rubber on the ground, lighter weight, =
solid handling.<br>&gt; Bill<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Sent from my =
TRS80<br>&gt;<br>&gt; On Jun 26, 2021, at 6:26 PM, James Henningsen <a =
href=3D"mailto:trguy75@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">&lt;trguy75@gmail.com&gt;</a> wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; =
=EF=BB=BFI am now. I bought 15 x 4.5 chrome wires from British Wire =
Wheel. They had a 20% off sale. On the Dayton=E2=80=99s I had 205 65 15 =
as they have almost identical diameter as 165 80 15. =
Jim<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; On Jun 26, 2021, at 5:37 PM, bill beecher <a =
href=3D"mailto:notakitcar@yahoo.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">&lt;notakitcar@yahoo.com&gt;</a> =
wrote:<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; =EF=BB=BFInteresting account, are you =
running 165/15 tyres?<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; Sent from my =
TRS80<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; On Jun 26, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Jim =
Henningsen <a href=3D"mailto:trguy75@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">&lt;trguy75@gmail.com&gt;</a> =
wrote:<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; =EF=BB=BFList:<br>&gt;&gt; I am =
refreshing my 72k orig mile 67 TR4A IRS. Decided to put on a new =
set<br>&gt;&gt; of Dayton wire wheels for a Triumph TR250 or TR6. These =
are the BEST wire<br>&gt;&gt; wheels out there and still Made in =
America! 72 spoke, 15 x 6 inch TUBELESS<br>&gt;&gt; design. You do not =
need inner tubes. I bought these for my Triumph TR4A but<br>&gt;&gt; =
they did not look right (too wide) and actually caused a rubbing of the =
top<br>&gt;&gt; center front inner fender that cut a groove in the new =
tire. Didn't effect<br>&gt;&gt; the wire wheel. I was surprised as these =
say they fir the 250. I decided<br>&gt;&gt; to dismount the tires since =
the the 4A has 4.5 inch rim width but I thought<br>&gt;&gt; these would =
be ok on a 4A.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; I installed new tires on them and =
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