We could go on and on with this whole topic. The point that I am making is
that cars without Titles often help to restore cars with Titles and what Paul
is doing is just that. Making one from two or more, the one with a Title is
the survivor. I can see it now another Reality TV show in the making, Title
Survivor, stay tuned to see which car survives! Sort of a parity on Junk Yard
Wars.
JVV
----- Original Message -----
From: Randall Young
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 6:14 PM
Subject: RE: Title needed, 75 TR6..
> Gee guys, you are making Paul look like a common criminal here.
I don't think anyone is accusing Paul of anything improper, just pointing
out (accurately I might add) that the law takes an extremely dim view of
such activities. The simple act of changing the VIN number is considered
in
most places to be evidence that a crime has been committed.
> When reproduction
> Commission Plates are so easily obtained from the big three
> numbers could and I bet have been changed on many occasions.
No doubt, but it's always a risk.
> Maybe he should have asked if
> anyone had a 75 parts car with Title that he could obtain.
> Perhaps he should have the VIN run to establish if the car was
> ever reported
> stolen and in the absence of that event he's just restoring another 75
TR6
> with parts from this one. Which parts he wants to use is up to
> him. Maybe he
> just wants to use the Title as one of the "parts". There are many
> cars on the
> road today made up of more than one original car, I'll bet a lot of those
> parts cars didn't have any Titles.
It varies state to state of course, but most states have a procedure for
dealing with cars built from "parts" with no title. You'll need to show
bills of sale for the major components, and typically the state will assign
a new VIN.
Technically, you should go through this same process even if one of the
parts cars has a title, but I've never heard of anyone getting in trouble
for using a legitimate title from a parts car. But again, offering to buy
just a title (not attached to a parts car) would be considered evidence (I
believe "prima facie" is the legal term, literally "at first glance") that
you are committing a crime. The laws tend to be rather draconian in this
area, to be sure that "chop shops" don't wiggle through any legal
loopholes.
Randall
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