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Re: Desert Fox

To: jonmac <jonmac@ndirect.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Desert Fox
From: toad <toad@storm.ca>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 21:38:56 -0500
Cc: Jim_Hill@chsra.wisc.edu, Triumphs List <triumphs@Autox.Team.Net>
References: <199812180152.BAA05761@sioux.netdirect.net.uk>
jonmac wrote:
> 
>  On Dec 17, Jim Hill wrote
> 
> As far as this mailing list is concerned, I don't care what your
> philosophy is on the larger
> issues of the day. And, quite frankly, I'm not really interested in
> receiving email about it.
> 
> Jim,
> As for your last sentence, I entirely agree. I'll say just this.
> In 1990, I was in Kuwait in an entirely non-combatant capacity
> running a training course for the Mitsubishi importer in a self
> employed capacity when Saddam and his mob walked across the border. I
> was in the wrong place at the right time,
> unwillingly got myself arrested after 10 days in hiding and was
> transferred to a jail in Baghdad where I rotted for three months.
> Well, I didn't quite rot. I experienced something called torture.
> This entailed removing my finger and toe-nails with pliers and
> without an
> anaesthetic, having my genitals hooked into the mains electrical
> supply, being beaten senseless with truncheons and being forced to
> witness four
> firing squads shooting deserters from the Iraqi army. Oh, I had the
> water torture too. Finally, they
> put me in front of what turned out to be a mock firing squad - and
> eventually came to the
> conclusion I had nothing to tell that was of any use.
> I have no grievance against the Iraqi people - except to say they are
> being greatly misguided by a tyrant and a total lunatic who IMHO has
> to be
> destroyed and 'taken out' at all costs. Maybe I'm biased but whatever
> this present conflict is called
> is irrelevant to me. I just hope, no - I pray, FERVENTLY, that the
> sons
> of bitches who did what they did to me are on the receiving end of a
> Cruise missile, bullet, bomb - whatever. I'm not fussed - but I'll be
> VERY glad if they wind up VERY dead and VERY soon. For this outburst,
> I neither expect nor ask for sympathy but Saddam Hussein and his
> regime which I witnessed many times in the eighties and before I went
> to Iraq unwillingly and under armed guard, is the personification of
> evil and must be eradicated for all time.
> 
> Let's get back to Triumphs, home brewed beer, photography, cross
> pollinating brussel sprouts - anything! For my own part, I have
> nothing more to say on this subject - either on or off list. It's a
> pity so much time has been devoted to this issue today. What many may
> not realise, is that having been on this list for the better part of
> a year has been one of the most wonderful therapies I could have.
> It's taken me back to a period of my life which I had all but
> forgotten and about which I've been able to write. That in itself has
> been an incredible therapy, mainly because what that bastard's
> henchmen did to me wrecked my life and damned near finished me off -
> for good, five years later.
> 
> John Macartney


Jonmac

I think you should be aware of what is going on around you by any medium
available.
I no longer have any relatives in Poland. Would you like to know why? 
The reason is simple.  Hitler did away with them all.  If we don't know
evil then we can't do anything about it.

Toad

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