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Subject: [Tigers] Gas tank vent hose
From: Joel Martin via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2023 16:27:57 +0000 (UTC)
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 Thank you all for the responses.=C2=A0=C2=A0 The rubber is about 5 years o=
ld and with no fumes in car or trunk, it should be good.=C2=A0  I will chec=
k routing of gas tank vent hose for any kinks and obstructions. As we live =
in NC, we have no vapor recovery sleeve gas nozzles. The nozzle key, I beli=
eve would not do anything to help.=C2=A0 If no kinks or obstructions, from =
others having the same issue, I will have to check my impatience at the doo=
r.

Joel

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Today's Topics:

=C2=A0 1. Re: Gas tank vent hose (Mark Rense)
=C2=A0 2. Re: Gas tank vent hose (Will Seay)
=C2=A0 3. Re: Gas tank vent hose (twotigers@verizon.net)
This issue has plagued us motorcyclists for years. There is a simple nozzle=
 key tool designed to hold the nozzle bellows back.=C2=A0
Bugz
https://www.aerostich.com/aluminum-gas-pump-nozzle-key.html

On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 4:16 PM Jim B via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wr=
ote:

Like Gary, I=E2=80=99m in CA and I hold back the vapor recovery sleeve. I a=
ngle the nozzle down into the filler pipe and that helps. Still a PITA thou=
gh. Never tried the upside down method.
I'm in VA and we don't have this problem.=C2=A0 It seems to me that this is=
sue came up some time ago and that someone recommended=C2=A0a collar/funnel=
 device that you put into the filler.=C2=A0 As I recall, the device was mad=
e to be used for motorcycles.=C2=A0 If you have any biker friends maybe you=
 could get a line on it.
Will - 382001570=20
Tigers@embarqmail.com

On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 5:30=E2=80=AFPM M Lafayette via Tigers <tigers@auto=
x.team.net> wrote:

Seems like a few years back someone was advertising a device to put into th=
e tank opening that supposedly solved this problem.

In a message dated 9/20/2023 4:07:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tigers@autox=
.team.net writes:=C2=A0
Like Gary, I=E2=80=99m in CA and I hold back the vapor recovery sleeve. I a=
ngle the nozzle down into the filler pipe and that helps. Still a PITA thou=
gh. Never tried the upside down method.


On Sep 20, 2023, at 8:07 AM, GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad@comcast.net> wrote:
=C2=A0
You must not be in CA (or other state with the vapor recovery gas pumps).Al=
l 13 gallons take forever for me, so I never try to go more than 9 or so.Ol=
d cars don't have the on-board carbon canister system that is needed for th=
e new pumps.So there is nothing you can do.When the nozzle is fully inserte=
d and gas pumped in the pressure rises and the pump shutsoff, always spilli=
ng gas down the side and onto the ground.=C2=A0I have to hold the nozzle cr=
ooked so the bellows doesn't fully seat and just barely open thetrigger, ta=
kes forever.Some guys hold the nozzle upside down (vertical) and it works b=
etter.=C2=A0 I just tried this againand it did seem to work better than yea=
rs ago when I last tried it.Gary=C2=A0=C2=A0
On 09/19/2023 2:16 PM PDT Greg Oliver <gregdawg89@hotmail.com> wrote:=C2=A0=
=C2=A0It does that with my Tiger too. =F0=9F=99=81=C2=A0From: Tigers <tiger=
s-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Joel Martin via Tigers <tigers@autox=
.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 1:53 PM
To: Tiger List Serve <tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Gas tank vent hose=C2=A0I have a ongoing issue, more of t=
esting my patience, in that it takes me at least 5 minutes to completely fi=
ll my gas tanks.=C2=A0 It takes the first 8-9 gallons just fine but the las=
t 3-4 takes forever.=C2=A0 I must squeak in .1-.2 gallons at a time, meanin=
g I must wait 10-15 seconds for the gas to settle in the tanks before addin=
g more.=C2=A0The gas tank vent hose is in the correct location, I believe.=
=C2=A0 No gas fumes in trunk.=C2=A0 Gas tank sending unit and gauge are pre=
tty accurate.=C2=A0 When my patience holds and I get the tanks full, gauge =
shows 11.75 to 12 gallons on the gauge.=C2=A0Any ideas or suggestions as to=
 why this might be happening and potential fix would be appreciated.=C2=A0R=
egards=C2=A0Joel Martin_______________________________________________=20

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I had the same trouble as everybody else, and the only relief I could get w=
as to break the recovery seal, also. This went on for decades. One day I sm=
elled some gas fumes in the car. After eliminating the carb as the source I=
 started looking behind the trunk panels. I found a crack in the vent tube =
and another crack in the filler neck. Fixed both of those. Went to gas up, =
stuck the nozzle in, put the automatic trip on, and was shocked that the ta=
nks filled completely. This was about a year ago. Every fill up since, even=
 at different gas stations, has had the same result. Goes totally against l=
ogic and critical thinking, because previously the only way to get gas in w=
as to break the seal. Now, with no way for air to enter the system, it fill=
s up completely without any fuss. Go figure!

 =C2=A0

Kirk

 =C2=A0

 =C2=A0

 =C2=A0

 =C2=A0

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of M Lafayette via T=
igers
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 2:31 PM
To: jbsyv@yahoo.com; tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Gas tank vent hose

 =C2=A0

Seems like a few years back someone was advertising a device to put into th=
e tank opening that supposedly solved this problem.


In a message dated 9/20/2023 4:07:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tigers@autox=
.team.net writes:=20

=C2=A0


Like Gary, I=E2=80=99m in CA and I hold back the vapor recovery sleeve. I a=
ngle the nozzle down into the filler pipe and that helps. Still a PITA thou=
gh. Never tried the upside down method.

 =C2=A0


On Sep 20, 2023, at 8:07 AM, GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad@comcast.net> wrote:

 =C2=A0

=C2=A0


You must not be in CA (or other state with the vapor recovery gas pumps).

All 13 gallons take forever for me, so I never try to go more than 9 or so.

Old cars don't have the on-board carbon canister system that is needed for =
the new pumps.

So there is nothing you can do.

When the nozzle is fully inserted and gas pumped in the pressure rises and =
the pump shuts

off, always spilling gas down the side and onto the ground.=C2=A0

I have to hold the nozzle crooked so the bellows doesn't fully seat and jus=
t barely open the

trigger, takes forever.

Some guys hold the nozzle upside down (vertical) and it works better.=C2=A0=
 I just tried this again

and it did seem to work better than years ago when I last tried it.

Gary

=C2=A0

=C2=A0


On 09/19/2023 2:16 PM PDT Greg Oliver <gregdawg89@hotmail.com> wrote:

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

It does that with my Tiger too. =F0=9F=99=81

=C2=A0

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Joel Martin via T=
igers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 1:53 PM
To: Tiger List Serve <tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Gas tank vent hose=20

=C2=A0

I have a ongoing issue, more of testing my patience, in that it takes me at=
 least 5 minutes to completely fill my gas tanks.=C2=A0 It takes the first =
8-9 gallons just fine but the last 3-4 takes forever.=C2=A0 I must squeak i=
n .1-.2 gallons at a time, meaning I must wait 10-15 seconds for the gas to=
 settle in the tanks before adding more.

=C2=A0

The gas tank vent hose is in the correct location, I believe.=C2=A0 No gas =
fumes in trunk.=C2=A0 Gas tank sending unit and gauge are pretty accurate.=
=C2=A0 When my patience holds and I get the tanks full, gauge shows 11.75 t=
o 12 gallons on the gauge.

=C2=A0

Any ideas or suggestions as to why this might be happening and potential fi=
x would be appreciated.

=C2=A0

Regards

=C2=A0

Joel Martin

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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Thank you all for the respon=
ses.&nbsp;&nbsp; The rubber is about 5 years old and with no fumes in car o=
r trunk, it should be good.&nbsp; <span> I will check routing of gas tank v=
ent hose for any kinks and obstructions. </span>As we live in NC, we have n=
o vapor recovery sleeve gas nozzles. The nozzle key, I believe would not do=
 anything to help.&nbsp; If no kinks or obstructions, from others having th=
e same issue, I will have to check my impatience at the door.<br></div><div=
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f Tigers digest..."<br></div>Today's Topics:<br><br>&nbsp;  1. Re: Gas tank=
 vent hose (Mark Rense)<br>&nbsp;  2. Re: Gas tank vent hose (Will Seay)<br=
>&nbsp;  3. Re: Gas tank vent hose (twotigers@verizon.net)<br><div id=3D"yd=
pc5ef50ceymsg48739" class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceymsg9019151013"><div id=3D"ydpc5ef5=
0ceyiv5784836498"><div>This issue has plagued us motorcyclists for years. T=
here is a simple nozzle key tool designed to hold the nozzle bellows back.&=
nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Bugz</div><div><br></div><div><div><a href=
=3D"https://www.aerostich.com/aluminum-gas-pump-nozzle-key.html"; rel=3D"nof=
ollow" target=3D"_blank">https://www.aerostich.com/aluminum-gas-pump-nozzle=
-key.html</a></div><br></div><div><br><div class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv578483649=
8gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498gmail_attr"=
>On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 4:16 PM Jim B via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tig=
ers@autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.ne=
t</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-lef=
t:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498gmail_=
quote"><div><span style=3D"font-size:14px;">Like Gary, I=E2=80=99m in CA an=
d I hold back the vapor recovery sleeve. I angle the nozzle down into the f=
iller pipe and that helps. Still a PITA though. Never tried the upside down=
 method.</span></div></blockquote></div></div>
</div></div><div id=3D"ydpc5ef50ceymsg87781" class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceymsg901915=
1013"><div id=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"f=
ont-size:small;" class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498gmail_default">I'm in VA =
and we don't have this problem.&nbsp; It seems to me that this issue came u=
p some time ago and that someone recommended&nbsp;a collar/funnel device th=
at you put into the filler.&nbsp; As I recall, the device was made to be us=
ed for motorcycles.&nbsp; If you have any biker friends maybe you could get=
 a line on it.</div><div style=3D"font-size:small;" class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv=
5784836498gmail_default"><br></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydpc5ef50=
ceyiv5784836498gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Will - 382001570 <br><a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:Tigers@embarqmail.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">Tige=
rs@embarqmail.com</a></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class=3D"ydpc5ef5=
0ceyiv5784836498gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv578483=
6498gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 5:30=E2=80=AFPM M Lafayette via Tig=
ers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D=
"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote style=3D=
"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-le=
ft:1ex;" class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498gmail_quote"><div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0);"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;font-weight=
:bold;">Seems like a few years back someone was advertising a device to put=
 into the tank opening that supposedly solved this problem.<br></span></div=
>
<br>In a message dated 9/20/2023 4:07:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <a href=
=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">tigers=
@autox.team.net</a> writes:
<div>&nbsp;</div>
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<div><span style=3D"font-size:14px;">Like Gary, I=E2=80=99m in CA and I hol=
d back the vapor recovery sleeve. I angle the nozzle down into the filler p=
ipe and that helps. Still a PITA though. Never tried the upside down method=
.</span><br clear=3D"none">
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61">
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<div>On Sep 20, 2023, at 8:07 AM, GARY WINBLAD &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:garywi=
nblad@comcast.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">garywinblad@comcast.n=
et</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<br clear=3D"none">
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50">
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<div>
<div>You must not be in CA (or other state with the vapor recovery gas pump=
s).</div>
<div>All 13 gallons take forever for me, so I never try to go more than 9 o=
r so.</div>
<div>Old cars don't have the on-board carbon canister system that is needed=
 for the new pumps.</div>
<div>So there is nothing you can do.</div>
<div>When the nozzle is fully inserted and gas pumped in the pressure rises=
 and the pump shuts</div>
<div>off, always spilling gas down the side and onto the ground.&nbsp;</div=
>
<div>I have to hold the nozzle crooked so the bellows doesn't fully seat an=
d just barely open the</div>
<div>trigger, takes forever.</div>
<div>Some guys hold the nozzle upside down (vertical) and it works better.&=
nbsp; I just tried this again</div>
<div>and it did seem to work better than years ago when I last tried it.</d=
iv>
<div>Gary</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<blockquote>
<div>On 09/19/2023 2:16 PM PDT Greg Oliver &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gregdawg89=
@hotmail.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">gregdawg89@hotmail.com</a>=
&gt; wrote:</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">I=
t does that with my Tiger too. =F0=9F=99=81</div>
<div id=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498m_7512025498784444880yiv1941385947append=
onsend">&nbsp;</div>
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yFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, san=
s-serif;"><strong>From:</strong> Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounce=
s@autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">tigers-bounces@autox.t=
eam.net</a>&gt; on behalf of Joel Martin via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:t=
igers@autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.=
net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><strong>Sent:</strong> Tuesday, September 19,=
 2023 1:53 PM<br clear=3D"none"><strong>To:</strong> Tiger List Serve &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">=
tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><strong>Subject:</strong> [=
Tigers] Gas tank vent hose</span>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:garamond, times, serif;font-size:16px;">
<div dir=3D"ltr">I have a ongoing issue, more of testing my patience, in th=
at it takes me at least 5 minutes to completely fill my gas tanks.&nbsp; It=
 takes the first 8-9 gallons just fine but the last 3-4 takes forever.&nbsp=
; I must squeak in .1-.2 gallons at a time, meaning I must wait 10-15 secon=
ds for the gas to settle in the tanks before adding more.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">The gas tank vent hose is in the correct location, I belie=
ve.&nbsp; No gas fumes in trunk.&nbsp; Gas tank sending unit and gauge are =
pretty accurate.&nbsp; When my patience holds and I get the tanks full, gau=
ge shows 11.75 to 12 gallons on the gauge.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Any ideas or suggestions as to why this might be happening=
 and potential fix would be appreciated.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Regards</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Joel Martin</div>
</div>
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</div></div><div id=3D"ydpc5ef50ceymsg30705" class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceymsg901915=
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v5784836498WordSection1"><p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">I h=
ad the same trouble as everybody else, and the only relief I could get was =
to break the recovery seal, also. This went on for decades. One day I smell=
ed some gas fumes in the car. After eliminating the carb as the source I st=
arted looking behind the trunk panels. I found a crack in the vent tube and=
 another crack in the filler neck. Fixed both of those. Went to gas up, stu=
ck the nozzle in, put the automatic trip on, and was shocked that the tanks=
 filled completely. This was about a year ago. Every fill up since, even at=
 different gas stations, has had the same result. Goes totally against logi=
c and critical thinking, because previously the only way to get gas in was =
to break the seal. Now, with no way for air to enter the system, it fills u=
p completely without any fuss. Go figure!</p><p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784=
836498MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">=
Kirk</p><p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=
=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyi=
v5784836498MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNor=
mal"> &nbsp;</p><div style=3D"border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style=
: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentcolor currentcol=
or; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"><=
b>From:</b> Tigers &lt;tigers-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </=
b>M Lafayette via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 20, 2023 2:31=
 PM<br><b>To:</b> jbsyv@yahoo.com; tigers@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b>=
 Re: [Tigers] Gas tank vent hose</p></div><p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836=
498MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoN=
ormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;col=
or:black;">Seems like a few years back someone was advertising a device to =
put into the tank opening that supposedly solved this problem.</span></b><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;"><=
/span></p></div><p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"><br>In a mes=
sage dated 9/20/2023 4:07:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <a href=3D"mailto:ti=
gers@autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.n=
et</a> writes: </p><div><p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">&nbs=
p;</p></div><div><blockquote style=3D"border-width: medium medium medium 1.=
5pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: currentcolor current=
color currentcolor blue; padding: 0in 0in 0in 4pt; margin-left: 3.75pt; mar=
gin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><div id=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498"><di=
v><p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.5pt;">Like Gary, I=E2=80=99m in CA and I hold back the vapor recovery sle=
eve. I angle the nozzle down into the filler pipe and that helps. Still a P=
ITA though. Never tried the upside down method.</span></p><div id=3D"ydpc5e=
f50ceyiv5784836498yqt98161"><div><p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNor=
mal"> &nbsp;</p><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"=
><div><p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">On Sep 20, 2023, at 8:=
07 AM, GARY WINBLAD &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:garywinblad@comcast.net"; rel=3D"n=
ofollow" target=3D"_blank">garywinblad@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:</p></div>=
<p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><div><p class=3D"=
ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div></blockquote></div></div=
></div><div id=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498yqt34050"><div><div><div><p class=
=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">You must not be in CA (or other stat=
e with the vapor recovery gas pumps).</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ce=
yiv5784836498MsoNormal">All 13 gallons take forever for me, so I never try =
to go more than 9 or so.</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498=
MsoNormal">Old cars don't have the on-board carbon canister system that is =
needed for the new pumps.</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv578483649=
8MsoNormal">So there is nothing you can do.</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpc5=
ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">When the nozzle is fully inserted and gas pum=
ped in the pressure rises and the pump shuts</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpc=
5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">off, always spilling gas down the side and o=
nto the ground.&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498Mso=
Normal">I have to hold the nozzle crooked so the bellows doesn't fully seat=
 and just barely open the</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv578483649=
8MsoNormal">trigger, takes forever.</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyi=
v5784836498MsoNormal">Some guys hold the nozzle upside down (vertical) and =
it works better.&nbsp; I just tried this again</p></div><div><p class=3D"yd=
pc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">and it did seem to work better than years =
ago when I last tried it.</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv578483649=
8MsoNormal">Gary</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNorma=
l">&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">&nbs=
p;</p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><di=
v><p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">On 09/19/2023 2:16 PM PDT =
Greg Oliver &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gregdawg89@hotmail.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" =
target=3D"_blank">gregdawg89@hotmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"=
ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpc5ef=
50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">It does that =
with my Tiger too. </span><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Segoe=
 UI Emoji, sans-serif;">=F0=9F=99=81</span><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;=
"></span></p></div><div id=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498appendonsend"><p clas=
s=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><div align=3D"cente=
r" style=3D"text-align:center;" class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"=
><hr size=3D"2" width=3D"98%" align=3D"center"></div><div id=3D"ydpc5ef50ce=
yiv5784836498divRplyFwdMsg"><p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">=
<strong><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></stro=
ng> Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofo=
llow" target=3D"_blank">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; on behalf of =
Joel Martin via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"=
nofollow" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><strong><span =
style=3D"font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;">Sent:</span></strong> Tuesday, S=
eptember 19, 2023 1:53 PM<br><strong><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri, sa=
ns-serif;">To:</span></strong> Tiger List Serve &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tiger=
s@autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net<=
/a>&gt;<br><strong><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;">Subject=
:</span></strong> [Tigers] Gas tank vent hose </p><div><p class=3D"ydpc5ef5=
0ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=3D=
"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-fa=
mily:Garamond, serif;">I have a ongoing issue, more of testing my patience,=
 in that it takes me at least 5 minutes to completely fill my gas tanks.&nb=
sp; It takes the first 8-9 gallons just fine but the last 3-4 takes forever=
.&nbsp; I must squeak in .1-.2 gallons at a time, meaning I must wait 10-15=
 seconds for the gas to settle in the tanks before adding more.</span></p><=
/div><div><p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;">&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p =
class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt=
;font-family:Garamond, serif;">The gas tank vent hose is in the correct loc=
ation, I believe.&nbsp; No gas fumes in trunk.&nbsp; Gas tank sending unit =
and gauge are pretty accurate.&nbsp; When my patience holds and I get the t=
anks full, gauge shows 11.75 to 12 gallons on the gauge.</span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
12.0pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;">&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font=
-family:Garamond, serif;">Any ideas or suggestions as to why this might be =
happening and potential fix would be appreciated.</span></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;=
font-family:Garamond, serif;">&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpc5=
ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:G=
aramond, serif;">Regards</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv578=
4836498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond, ser=
if;">&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;">Joel Mar=
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