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Re: [Spridgets] Tags and Titles rules for a Brit!

To: Rick Fisk <refisk@chartermi.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tags and Titles rules for a Brit!
From: Weslake1330 via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 20:27:49 +0100
Cc: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>, Kent McLean <kentmclean@comcast.net>
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Thanks, interesting point about some states not needing a plate on the
front - seems odd to me.  Over here only motorcycles are exempt from having
a plate on the front after they found they were a bit like a cutting blade
in an accident (in the 1960s I guess).

Regards


Daniel

On Mon, 6 Sept 2021 at 18:37, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <
spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

> Hi Daniel.
>
> A little misinformation in some of the answers so far.  :-)
>
> In some states the license plate stays with the car for it's entire life,
> as long as the car stays in the state and is not sold and registered in
> another state.  California is one state for example where the plate stays
> with the car for it's entire life.   If a used car is sold the new owner
> gets a new title and registration in his name, but the same plate is used=
.
> In Michigan where I live now the plate stays with the driver and gets
> transferred from car to car.  You can also get a new license plate here
> whenever you want.  The plates in Michigan are replaced by the state afte=
r
> a certain number of years because they deteriorate in our weather.
>
> Many states have inspections for emissions control equipment.  California
> is one such state, and while car guys hate smog devices they do work.  I
> lived in California back in the sixties and I remember times when you cou=
ld
> literally not see three blocks down the road because of the smog.  We had
> regular smog alerts when the kids at school were not allowed to go outsid=
e
> because just breathing the air was the equivalent of smoking two packs of
> cigarettes a day.  Michigan has no smog inspections.  We just let our
> pollution blow over to Canada and New York.
>
> Safety inspections are left up to the individual states, some have them
> some don't.  However, the states with very thorough safety inpections hav=
e
> the same accident rates as states with no inspections, so in my opinion
> they are really nothing but a money grab by the state.  No one seems to b=
e
> able to prove that the "safety" inspections do any good at all other than
> providing an income source for the state and the inspection station
> operators.
>
> One other thing no one has mentioned is that some states require a plate
> on the front and rear of the car while others (such as Michigan) only
> require a plate on the rear.  The plate is mostly used to identify a
> vehicle trying to leave the scene of an incident.  How often does someone
> back away from the scene of a crime?
>
> Rick
>
> On Sep 6, 2021, at 6:00 AM, Kent McLean via Spridgets <
> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BFWeslake1330 wrote:
>
> So the tag is what I'd call the number plate
>
>
> Correct. Also called a license plate.
>
> and each year you have to pay the government ('the man'?)
> for a sticker that says you are paying something like road tax on it
>
>
> It goes by various names, but yes. Registration (with fees that various b=
y
> state and possibly by city/town) gets you your number plate. That plate
> does not stay with the car forever. You sell the car, you turn in the pla=
te
> and the new owner gets a new plate. Some states also charge an excise tax=
,
> so they can make more money. I think NY City also adds a city tax. Taxati=
on
> with representation.
>
> or that it has passed annual inspection?
>
>
> That is separate from your license plate. Like your MOT, some states
> require an annual safety inspection. Some don't. Some also require an
> emissions test. Some states have regions that require an emissions test.
> YMMV depending on where you live.
>
> The US and Great Britain, two countries separated by  common language. :)
>
> Kent
> '56 100
> '60 Sprite
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks, interesting point about some states not needing a =
plate on the front - seems odd to me.=C2=A0 Over here only motorcycles are =
exempt from having a plate on the front after they found they were a bit li=
ke a cutting blade in an accident (in the 1960s I guess).<div><br></div><di=
v>Regards</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Daniel</div></div><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, 6 Sep=
t 2021 at 18:37, Rick Fisk via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@au=
tox.team.net">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px sol=
id rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi=
 Daniel.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">A little misinfor=
mation in some of the answers so far. =C2=A0:-) =C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">In some states the license plate stays with th=
e car for it&#39;s entire life, as long as the car stays in the state and i=
s not sold and registered in another state.=C2=A0 California is one state f=
or example where the plate stays with the car for it&#39;s entire life. =C2=
=A0 If a used car is sold the new owner gets a new title and registration i=
n his name, but the same plate is used.=C2=A0 In Michigan where I live now =
the plate stays with the driver and gets transferred from car to car.=C2=A0=
 You can also get a new license plate here whenever you want.=C2=A0 The pla=
tes in Michigan are replaced by the state after a certain number of years b=
ecause they deteriorate in our weather.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">Many states have inspections for emissions control equipment.=
=C2=A0 California is one such state, and while car guys hate smog devices t=
hey do work.=C2=A0 I lived in California back in the sixties and I remember=
 times when you could literally not see three blocks down the road because =
of the smog.=C2=A0 We had regular smog alerts when the kids at school were =
not allowed to go outside because just breathing the air was the equivalent=
 of smoking two packs of cigarettes a day.=C2=A0 Michigan has no smog inspe=
ctions.=C2=A0 We just let our pollution blow over to Canada and New York. =
=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Safety inspections =
are left up to the individual states, some have them some don&#39;t.=C2=A0 =
However, the states with very thorough safety inpections have the same acci=
dent rates as states with no inspections, so in my opinion they are really =
nothing but a money grab by the state.=C2=A0 No one seems to be able to pro=
ve that the &quot;safety&quot; inspections do any good at all other than pr=
oviding an income source for the state and the inspection station operators=
.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">One other thing no one h=
as mentioned is that some states require a plate on the front and rear of t=
he car while others (such as Michigan) only require a plate on the rear.=C2=
=A0 The plate is mostly used to identify a vehicle trying to leave the scen=
e of an incident.=C2=A0 How often does someone back away from the scene of =
a crime? =C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Rick</div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Sep 6, 2021, at 6:00 AM, =
Kent McLean via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; t=
arget=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquot=
e></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<span style=3D"=
font-family:Palatino-Roman">Weslake1330</span>=C2=A0wrote:<div><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div><span style=3D"font-family:Palatino-Roman;font-size:18px=
;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spaci=
ng:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:=
normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">So =
the tag is what I&#39;d call=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-family:Palatin=
o-Roman;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weig=
ht:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-trans=
form:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:no=
ne;display:inline">the number plate </span></div></blockquote><div><br></di=
v><div>Correct. Also called a license plate.</div><br><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><div><span style=3D"font-family:Palatino-Roman;font-size:18px;font-sty=
le:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal=
;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;wo=
rd-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">and each yea=
r you have to pay the government (&#39;the man&#39;?)</span><br style=3D"fo=
nt-family:Palatino-Roman;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps=
:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-inde=
nt:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decorat=
ion:none"><span style=3D"font-family:Palatino-Roman;font-size:18px;font-sty=
le:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal=
;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;wo=
rd-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">for a sticke=
r that says you are paying something like road tax on it </span></div></blo=
ckquote><div><br></div><div>It goes by various names, but yes. Registration=
 (with fees that various by state and possibly by city/town) gets you your =
number plate. That plate does not stay with the car forever. You sell the c=
ar, you turn in the plate and the new owner gets a new plate. Some states a=
lso charge an excise tax, so they can make more money. I think NY City also=
 adds a city tax. Taxation with representation.</div><br><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><div><span style=3D"font-family:Palatino-Roman;font-size:18px;fon=
t-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:norm=
al;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">or=C2=
=A0</span><span style=3D"font-family:Palatino-Roman;font-size:18px;font-sty=
le:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal=
;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;wo=
rd-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">that it has =
passed annual inspection? =C2=A0</span></div></blockquote></div><br><div>Th=
at is separate from your license plate. Like your MOT, some states require =
an annual safety inspection. Some don&#39;t. Some also require an emissions=
 test. Some states have regions that require an emissions test. YMMV depend=
ing on where you live.</div><div><br></div><div>The US and Great Britain, t=
wo countries separated by =C2=A0common language. :)</div><div><br></div><di=
v>Kent=C2=A0</div><div>&#39;56 100</div><div>&#39;60 Sprite</div><div><br><=
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