Well I got them off.  Thanks all for your suggestions, I used most all of 
them, perhaps the biggest help was realizing, from your advice, that it's as 
much of a bitch as it looked like.  Before that I couldn't help thinking I 
was missing a piece of the puzzle.  With the seized nut that holds the two 
manifolds together and the dowel pins from the intake to the head involved it 
was quite a trick.  Can't help wondering how they installed them but won't 
ever know b/c a header and new intake are going on.
Thanks again!
Mark
Mark
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