A few years back a Morris owner with a properly restored and beautifully
prepped car came in second at a concours jjudged event. The judges came
back and told him it was a shame that he neglected to sew edging around
the carpeting as that was what kept him out of first. Morrises never
came with edged carpeting in those years!
I have often told Morris owners that I better never be asked to judge a
concourse Morris.
FWIW
Paul
PAsgeirsson@juno.com
On Mon, 20 Sep 1999 14:21:27 -0500 "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net> writes:
>Kinda interesting to me.... this whole judging affair....
>
>and the beauty of Concours judging.... (yes I know and understand the
>faults here also) at least you have a book and in our clubs we
>understand
>that some folks drive these level of cars....
>
>one of the reasons I don't go to local car shows is the inability of
>folks
>to determine what they are looking at... I understand the fellowship
>that
>takes place with the other car owners... but I can't stand for someone
>who
>is clueless to judge my cars....
>
>If a fellow Healey owner see's my cars then they can understand what
>it is
>and what I have done to it over the years... they can appreciate the
>work
>and or the effort overall.... concours or popular class
>irregardless.... at
>least the fella has a clue what he is seeing.... When the Local Judge
>asked
>what Kind of MG my 100 was I decided then and there that it was
>totally
>insignificant...
>
>For something to have significance it has to be valued by those one
>seeks
>to impress...(could have used another word but that is what it is) If
>your
>seeking a Gold level concours car and you achieve that goal.... We all
>know
>and understand the difficulty you went through to get there... and of
>course we are Justifiably impressed... This whole hobby for me boils
>down
>to the respect of my Peers and personally I don't find it necessary to
>do
>that at a concours level.... I sure respect those who do.. just not my
>choice.... The local Car shows for me Personally don't represent my
>Peers...
>
>Just my .02 Keith Turk.... 100/4 AN5 AN9 and that damn Bville car
>that
>is all about the respect of your peers... there damn sure ain't no
>money in
>it
>
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>> From: type79@ix.netcom.com
>> To: Charles D. Sorkin <cdsorkin@ix.netcom.com>
>> Cc: Spridget List <spridgets@autox.team.net>; MG List
><mgs@autox.team.net>
>> Subject: Re: Car show judging
>> Date: Monday, September 20, 1999 12:19 PM
>>
>> "Charles D. Sorkin" wrote:
>>
>> > Dear List:
>> >
>> > No LBC content, but I wanted to share an interesting story from a
>colleague
>> > who was showing his Ferrari this past weekend. In the battle for
>best
>of
>> > show, his 1964 GTL was in competition with a Porsche (don't know
>the
>model)
>> > for the fully-judged award. The cars were of comparable quality
>in
>> > virtually every respect. No rust, flawless paint, perfect
>carpets,
>> > spotlessly clean engine bay, etc. In order to break the tie, the
>judge
>> > first ran his finger along the INSIDE of the rim of the spare tire
>(which
>> > has never been used) and found that it passed a white glove test.
>(How
>many
>> > LBCs have impeccably clean spares?)
>> >
>> > The next test was the killer and the tie-breaker. The judge
>inspected
>the
>> > sets of original tools that came with the cars. He examined the
>set of
>> > pliers that came standard with Ferraris and noted that there was a
>tiny
>spot
>> > of grime in the joint. And thus the Porsche (which did not have a
>set
>of
>> > pliers in its original equipment) won.
>> >
>> > Wow.
>> >
>> > Now that's competition.
>> >
>>
>> Charles,
>>
>> In my book, that's not competition, it's BS!
>>
>> I have always been interested in and most appreciative of
>originality but
>I have
>> never understood what extreme cleanliness has to do with judging.
>White
>glove
>> judging is nothing more than popularity judging amongst a chosen
>few.
>>
>> Jay Fishbein, CT
>> AN-5
>> HAN-6
>> Innocenti-S
>> Lotus 7
>> etc. etc.
>>
>>
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