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Re: Oil and Oil coolers [2]

To: mdietsche@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Oil and Oil coolers [2]
From: Daniel1312@aol.com
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 14:01:22 EST
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
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In a message dated 15/3/1999  4:52:16PM,  mdietsche@yahoo.com writes:

<<  Sump oil temp above 200 is desirable, with preferred range
 around 220-230 for small engines.  The reasoning is that colder temps
 don't fully dissipate the entrained acids and other blowby compounds
 that wind up in the oil, and these compounds are damaging to the
 engine.  It's true that conventional oil deteriorates at these temps,
 but that's why you change oil regularly.  The newer synthetics and
 blends are much more temp-tolerant and can run hotter with less
 deterioration.
 
 Oil coolers make sense if you are running hotter than this with
 conventional oil, esp. in the summer. This problem might show up as
 low pressure after a long summer drive, with the viscosity of the
 conventional oil not able to hold up to prolonged high temp running. 
 Some folks use an oil cooler, but screen it off in the winter to keep
 the oil from running too cold when the weather is cool.  Also
 available are oil cooler thermoststs that only send oil to the cooler
 matrix when it's above a preset temp (about 180 or so -- this is
 sensed outside the sump, where it has already cooled down some from
 the sump temp).  With the new synthetic oils I don't think an oil
 cooler is such an issue unless you are running VERY hot, and then you
 probably have other problems anyway. >>

<< 7,000rpm with 100bhp!!!!>>
 
 I've had excellent luck with the Quaker State blended synthetics in
 all my older vehicles.  QS's lubrication engineers steered me away
 from their pure synthetic in any car older than 1980, unless I was
 changing all seals on an engine rebuild (same for tranny and axle).
 But they said their semi-synthetic blend could be run with no seal
 problems, and it is very temperature tolerant.  As far as rebuild
 theory, I like to run the first 500-1000 miles on a good conventional
 like Valvoline (it's known for its detergent action), then switch to a
 semi-synthetic blend thereafter.
  >>

At last, a posting I can almost agree with!!!!!  The only points I would add
are:  When the oil gets too hot the film can break down and the damage can
begin.

High rpm (say 6,500 upwards) especially prolonged for more than a few minutes
whether on the road or race track are what pushes up the oil temperature to a
critical level and it is this more than ambient air temperatures which cause
problems.  Problems can be cured with a cooler or synthetic oil or both,
preferably both.

Never run an engine in with synethetic (it can cause problems).

Most synthetics are fully miscible with mineral oils - no need to flush etc
and by the way, WHO empties the oil cooler on oil changes.

The 1500 engine needs an oil cooler more than the A - Series.

Some engines (Porsche flat 6, for example) have problems with synthetics in
certain instances - details on request.

Cheap oil is good for nothing and like most things you get way you pay for.

I've used Mobil Synthetics for years with no problems, including their diff
oil.

Daniel1312

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