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Re: thanks! & K&N Filters

To: Nolan Penney <npenney@mde.state.md.us>
Subject: Re: thanks! & K&N Filters
From: Trevor Boicey <tboicey@brit.ca>
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 13:56:53 -0400
Nolan Penney wrote:
> 
> Not sure what the point of the flame was, since I don't have a
> vested interest in K&N.  What I told you was engineering
> scientific fact about air flow filtration.  Well referenced and
> documented in various engineering handbooks and trade
> journals on the subject.

  Please provide with references. All I saw was a
loose text piece, not unlike the information on K&Ns
own website. 

  I'm sorry, but any impartial scientific analysis and
evidence I have seen, including from people I know personally, has
been very much to the contrary.

  As well, anecdotal evidence (ie: chats and mailing lists)
also seem to agree with these findings whenever somebody
has scientifically approached the problem and taken
measurements.

  I think everybody has read this piece attached as well,
it's also from "source unverified" but is worth a
read. It's been floating around for a while, most people
here have probably seen it:

=====

From:  George Morrison

John:  If I wrote "subjective" I meant "objective"..  I was 
responsible for evaluating re-usable air filters 
for a major construction/mining company that had 
hundreds of vehicles ranging from large earthmovers 
to pick-up trucks and salesmen's cars.  This study
was embarked upon due to the fact that we were 
spending upwards of $30,000 a MONTH on paper air 
filters.  Using them one time then throwing them 
away..  I inititated the study in that I was convinced 
that a K&N type filter or oiled foam would save us 
many dollars per year in filter savings, man hour savings, 
and of course engines as these would filter 
dirt better than paper. (yes, I had read the K&N ads and was 
a believer)

Representative test units were chosen to give us a 
broad spectrum from cars right through large front 
end loaders.  With each unit we had a long history 
of oil analysis records so that changes would be 
trackable.

Unfortunately, for me, every single unit having 
alternative re-usable air cleaners showed an immediate 
large jump in silicon (dirt) levels with corresponding 
major increases in wear metals.  In one extreme 
case, a  unit with a primary and secondary air cleaner,
the secondary (small paper element) clogged 
before even one day's test  run could be completed. 
This particular unit had a Cummins V-12 engine 
that had paper/paper one one bank and K&N/paper on 
the other bank; two completely independent 
induction systems.  The conditions were EXACTLY
duplicated for each bank yet the K&N allowed so 
much dirt to pass through that the small filter became 
clogged before lunch.  The same outcome occured  
with oiled foams on this unit.

We discontinued the tests on the large pieces almost 
immediately but continued with service trucks, 
formen's vehicles, and my own company car. Analysis 
results continued showing markedly increased 
wear rates for all the vehicles, mine included.  
Test concluded, switched back to paper/glass and all 
vehicles showed reduction back to near original levels 
of both wear metals and dirt.  I continued with 
the K&N on my company car out of stubborness and at 
85,000 miles the Chevy 305 V-8 wheezed its 
last breath.  The top end was sanded badly; bottom 
end was just fine.  End of test.

I must stress that EVERYONE involved in this test
was hoping that alternative filters would work as 
everyone was sick about pulling out a perfectly good 
$85 air cleaner and throwing 4 of them away 
each week per machine...  

So, I strongly suggest that depending upon an 
individual's long term plan for their vehicles they simply 
run an oil analysis at least once to see that the 
K&N or whatever alternative air filter is indeed working 
IN THAT APPLICATION...  It depends on a person's priorities.
If you want performance then indeed the K&N is the 
way to go but at what cost???

And no, I do not work for a paper or glass air 
filter manufacturing company nor do I have any affiliation 
with anything directly or indirectly that could 
benefit George Morrison as a result..  

====

-- 
Trevor Boicey, P. Eng.
Ottawa, Canada, tboicey@brit.ca
ICQ #17432933 http://www.brit.ca/~tboicey/
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