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Re: Axle stands (was RE: new spitter...)

To: "Dean Dashwood" <DDashwood@softwright.co.uk>, <spitlist@gte.net>
Subject: Re: Axle stands (was RE: new spitter...)
From: "John Weber" <weberjm@teleport.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 20:18:32 -0700
I'm currently using 4 jack stand to support my '75.
I have a piece of 1x4 on top of the stands.  I have them just at the body
stub angle piece, and just in front of the upwards curve of the frame in the
rear.
Rock steady.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Dashwood <DDashwood@softwright.co.uk>
To: 'spitlist@gte.net' <spitlist@gte.net>
Cc: 'spitfires@autox.team.net' <spitfires@autox.team.net>; 'todd j. derr'
<tjd@wordsmith.org>
Date: Monday, July 12, 1999 7:43 AM
Subject: Axle stands (was RE: new spitter...)


>
>Fair point, Joe - I was talking from experience of other cars, I've
>never (yet!) had to use the stands on the Spit.  But now I think about
>it, I can see that this probably wouldn't be such a good idea on the
>Spit's rear axles.
>
>If they have curved top surfaces, designed for resting axles in, though,
>I would think that resting the frame on top of them, with a very small
>contact area, wouldn't be quite as stable?
>
>An attempt at a diagram (view in Arial font for least-bad results) :
>
>Resting an axle in an axle stand:
>
>   axle
>      |
>      v
>   \ O /  <-  axle stand
>    -----
>      |
>      |
>      |
>
>Resting the frame on an axle stand:
>
>  frame
>    |
>    v
> ________
>   \     /  <-  axle stand
>    -----
>      |
>      |
>      |
>
>Ok, so those pictures are *really* bad, but I think you can just about
>see that an axle is fairly stable inside an axle stand, whereas the
>frame can slide about on it, not really giving you much better
>protection than using a jack.
>
>Have I just completely invented a problem that doesn't exist, or is
>there a standard way round this (although I'm hoping that I won't need
>to worry about it for a little while longer anyway.....) ???
>
>>----------
>>From: Joe Curry[SMTP:spitlist@gte.net]
>>Sent: 12 July 1999 14:15
>>To: Dean Dashwood
>>Cc: 'spitfires@autox.team.net'; 'todd j. derr'
>>Subject: Re: new spitter...
>>
>>Dean,
>>I don't think it wise to be putting stands under Spitfire swing-axles.
>>The axles are strong enough, but why risk damage to them, the U-Joints
>>or the bearings by putting the weight of the Spit on them at a single
>>point.  I'd recommend using the frame.
>>
>>Joe
>>
>>Dean Dashwood wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Todd, welcome to the list!
>>>
>>> You need to remove the cover to get to the switch - the Haynes manual
>>> section on removing the gearbox describes how to do it, but it's not
>>> difficult.
>>>
>>> As for the jackstands (are these the things that I'd call "axle
>>> stands"?) I'd suggest under the axle for everything except removing
>>> axles.  Insert all the standard disclaimers here about never working
>>> under a car that's only supported by a jack, add extra support by
>>> putting any wheels you've removed underneath the car whilst working,
>>> etc, etc.  But you won't need to do this for the reverse light problems
>>> - that's completely an "inside the car" job.
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>>
>>> Dean Dashwood
>>> '77 Spit 1500 (back from the garage with an MOT in 5 days - and
>>> counting!)
>>>
>>> >----------
>>> >From:  todd j. derr[SMTP:tjd@wordsmith.org]
>>> >Sent:  12 July 1999 04:15
>>> >To:    spitfires@autox.team.net
>>> >Subject:       new spitter...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Hello,
>>> >
>>> >       I've been reading this list since shortly after I bought my new
>>>friend,
>>> >a 1978 (or is that 79? commision #FM91578U) Spitfire, about a month
ago,
>>>but
>>> >this is my first post... so, hello to everyone out there.
>>> >
>>> >       So far it's been fairly smooth sailing, but now I need to pass
>>>state
>>> >inspection, which isn't going to happen unless I can fix the reverse
>>>lights.
>>> >Currently they're stuck on - or at least _were_ stuck on before I
removed
>>>the
>>> >bulbs; my thinking being I'm a lot more likely to get pulled over with
the
>>> >stuck on than off...
>>> >
>>> >       Anyways, I have obtained the Haynes manual, which shows the
>>>location
>>> >of the reverse switch on the tranny, but I can't find anything about
how
>>>to
>>> >access it.  So, does anyone know, can I reach it from under the car or
do
>>>I
>>> >need to remove the cover inside the passenger compartment to get it
from
>>> >above?
>>> >
>>> >       Also, this may be a silly question but I'd rather be silly than
>>>dead -
>>> >I bought a pair of jackstands and have no idea how to use them.  Should
I
>>>put
>>> >them under the frame?  Under the lower wishbones in front?  Under the
axle
>>>in
>>> >the rear?  Or should I jack up the car using the frame and put the
>>>jackstands
>>> >under the normal jacking points?
>>> >
>>> >thanks in advance for any help,
>>> >
>>> >todd.
>>> >
>>> >PS: I _love_ driving this car!
>>> >
>>
>>--
>>"If you can't excel with talent, triumph with effort."
>> -- Dave Weinbaum in National Enquirer
>>
>>
>>
>


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