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Re: [Shop-talk] Frozen sway-bar slider

To: Thomas Coradeschi <tjcora@icloud.com>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Frozen sway-bar slider
From: Philip Ethier <pethier7@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2024 23:23:00 -0500
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On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 6:36=E2=80=AFPM Thomas Coradeschi <tjcora@icloud.co=
m> wrote:

> I think heat is gunna be your friend.
>

I didn't have to resort to the blue flame.  The slider block finally came
loose with liberal application of Kroil and 1100-degree-F air from a heat
gun followed by a twist with a pair of vise-grips.  Ran a half-inch reamer
through the block. Polished all the corrosion off the sway bar with a
sandpaper strip and eery cloth.  Block is 20mm long.  Used one block to put
saw marks 20mm apart on each bar arm on both the inside and outside to
serve as guides to settings.  I set the bar two notches up (40mm plus saw
kerfs). Cat is much-more neutral now.  Front tires are sharing with each
other better with car rolling less.  Plate-style LSD is preventing
wheelspin.  This has transformed the handling, There is much more overall
grip.  I can provoke both understeer and oversteer now.  May try one more
notch at next weekend's autocrosses.  I did have to put a little more bend
in the endlinks to allow one more notch.   They are factory-bent to clear
the DeDion tube.

Took out the lateral drift on the brackets with slit PEX pieces held in
place with hose clamps. Clicky noise is gone.
Phil Ethier
1991 Caterham 1700 Super Sprint



>
> On Sep 16, 2024, at 2:02 PM, Philip Ethier <pethier7@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Saturday I ran a small-lot autocross at a dragstrip near Rock Falls
> Wisconsin.  My Caterham was pushing a bit and I had trouble staying in th=
e
> power band in second gear.
>
> Also, there is a light clicky sound when I drive over bumps on the street=
.
>
> The click is probably the rear sway-bar moving sideways and hitting the
> hose clamps that locate it in its aluminum-block brackets.  First shot at
> quieting it is to put in a couple of cable ties between the clamps and th=
e
> blocks.  If that does not do it I will slit some PEX.
>
> Next, adjust the rear bar stiffer.  Problem:  I have removed all the
> fasteners and the blocks will not move.  The Heim joints pulled out OK.  =
I
> swung the bar down.  It moves very easily.  I shot the blocks with Kroil,
> smacked them with a wrench and stopped for lunch. At least if I need to u=
se
> heat, the part is far from anything to damage.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier/54000198064
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:monospace"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 6:36=E2=80=AFPM Thoma=
s Coradeschi &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tjcora@icloud.com";>tjcora@icloud.com</a>=
&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div=
><div><div>I think heat is gunna be your friend.=C2=A0</div></div></div></b=
lockquote><div><br></div><div><p>I didn&#39;t have to resort to the blue fl=
ame.=C2=A0 The slider block finally came loose with liberal application of =
Kroil and 1100-degree-F air from a heat gun followed by a twist with a pair=
 of vise-grips.=C2=A0 Ran a half-inch reamer through the block. Polished al=
l the corrosion off the sway bar with a sandpaper strip and eery cloth.=C2=
=A0 Block is 20mm long.=C2=A0 Used one block to put saw marks 20mm apart on=
 each bar arm on both the inside and outside to serve as guides to settings=
.=C2=A0 I set the bar two notches up (40mm plus saw kerfs). Cat is much-mor=
e neutral now.=C2=A0 Front tires are sharing with each other better with ca=
r rolling less.=C2=A0 Plate-style LSD is preventing wheelspin.=C2=A0 This h=
as transformed the handling, There is much more overall grip.=C2=A0 I can p=
rovoke both understeer and oversteer now.=C2=A0 May try one more notch at n=
ext weekend&#39;s autocrosses.=C2=A0 I did have to put a little more bend i=
n the endlinks to allow one more notch.=C2=A0 =C2=A0They are factory-bent t=
o clear the DeDion tube.</p><p>Took out the lateral drift on the brackets w=
ith slit PEX pieces held in place with hose clamps. Clicky noise is gone.</=
p></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">P=
hil Ethier</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace=
">1991 Caterham 1700 Super Sprint</div><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px =
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div><br></div><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite"><div>On Sep 16, 2024, at 2:02 PM, Philip Ethier &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:pethier7@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">pethier7@gmail.com</a>&gt=
; wrote:<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div =
style=3D"font-family:monospace"><div>Saturday I ran a small-lot autocross a=
t a dragstrip near Rock Falls Wisconsin.=C2=A0 My Caterham was pushing a bi=
t and I had trouble staying in the power band in second gear.<br></div><div=
><br></div><div>Also, there is a light clicky sound when I drive over bumps=
 on the street.<br></div><div><br></div><div>The click is probably the rear=
 sway-bar moving sideways and hitting the hose clamps that locate it in its=
 aluminum-block brackets.=C2=A0 First shot at quieting it is to put in a co=
uple of cable ties between the clamps and the blocks.=C2=A0 If that does no=
t do it I will slit some PEX.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Next, adjust the=
 rear bar stiffer.=C2=A0 Problem: =C2=A0I have removed all the fasteners an=
d the blocks will not move.=C2=A0 The Heim joints pulled out OK.=C2=A0 I sw=
ung the bar down.=C2=A0 It moves very easily.=C2=A0 I shot the blocks with =
Kroil, smacked them with a wrench and stopped for lunch. At least if I need=
 to use heat, the part is far from anything to damage.<br></div></div><div =
style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:monospa=
ce"><a href=3D"https://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier/54000198064"; rel=3D"no=
opener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier/=
54000198064</a><br></div></div><div><div>__________________________________=
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