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Re: [Shop-talk] Lucas Transmission Fix

To: old dirtbeard <dirtbeard@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Lucas Transmission Fix
From: David Scheidt <dmscheidt@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2024 22:22:17 -0800
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> On Feb 21, 2024, at 07:03, old dirtbeard <dirtbeard@gmail.com> wrote:
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> =EF=BB=BF
> Hi Moose,
>=20
> Yes, when someone does not want to take your money for doing the work they=
 normally would do, that says something.=20
>=20
> If it is just a seal, though, Dodge almost certainly bought the seals from=
 some company that makes them. Perhaps you could find the specs for the seal=
 and look-up industrial supply companies and try to match it? We do this for=
 bearings and seals for the old British stuff.
>=20

There are a whole lot of parts that are basically impossible to get on newis=
h vehicles[1], but rebuild transmissions for both the G56 6 speed stick and t=
he 68rfe seem to be readily available, if uncheap. If the truck has the g56,=
 I=E2=80=99m not at all surprised that shops don=E2=80=99t want to touch it.=
 It has a reputation for being hard to work on, it requires special tools fo=
r many jobs, and they are prone to catastrophic failure. =20

[1] a high school acquaintance of mine had a fancy suv (a Lexus or Acura) to=
taled by an insurance company, after someone hit him in a parking lot. The o=
nly damage was the glass of one headlight was broken.  A factory replacement=
 was not available for 18 months, and he refused to having a used or afterma=
rket part installed (Indiana law gives you the right to insist on new parts,=
 on cars less than 5(?) years old. ) The truck was only a year or so old, an=
d still in production.

  for some reason, the insurance company did not want to pay for months of r=
ental car, and totaled the car. This was near the peak of crazy used car pri=
ces, so they paid him substantially more than he gave the dealer for it.=20


> Again, though, if the repair garages do not want to work on it, there prob=
ably is some sound reason(s).
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> I have an engine rear main seal leak on my '03 GMC Savana and used a seal l=
eak additive which did stop the leak for a while, but it has returned.=20
>=20
>=20
> After a few months of local driving (a few hundred miles) I noticed the oi=
l pressure was dropping again, I again replaced the filter and the oil press=
ure went back to normal.
>=20
> I cannot prove it, but I believe the stop leak was plugging the filter as w=
ell as plugging the leak. It made me very cautious about using anything like=
 this again.

This is totally consistent with how most stop leak products work.  I would o=
nly use one on an engine that=E2=80=99s already toast.=20


>=20

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Feb 21, 2024, at 07=
:03, old dirtbeard &lt;dirtbeard@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></=
div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr"><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Hi Moose,</div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_=
default" style=3D"font-size:small">Yes, when someone does not want to take y=
our money for doing the work they normally would do, that says something.&nb=
sp;</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">If it is just a seal, t=
hough, Dodge almost certainly bought the seals from some company that makes t=
hem. Perhaps you could find the specs for the seal and look-up industrial su=
pply companies and try to match it? We do this for bearings and seals for th=
e old British stuff.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:sm=
all"><br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>There are a whol=
e lot of parts that are basically impossible to get on newish vehicles[1], b=
ut rebuild transmissions for both the G56 6 speed stick and the 68rfe seem t=
o be readily available, if uncheap. If the truck has the g56, I=E2=80=99m no=
t at all surprised that shops don=E2=80=99t want to touch it. It has a reput=
ation for being hard to work on, it requires special tools for many jobs, an=
d they are prone to catastrophic failure. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>[1=
] a high school acquaintance of mine had a fancy suv (a Lexus or Acura) tota=
led by an insurance company, after someone hit him in a parking lot. The onl=
y damage was the glass of one headlight was broken. &nbsp;A factory replacem=
ent was not available for 18 months, and he refused to having a used or afte=
rmarket part installed (Indiana law gives you the right to insist on new par=
ts, on cars less than 5(?) years old. )<span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0,=
 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">&nbsp;The truck was only a year or so old, and st=
ill in production.</span></div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;for some reas=
on, the insurance company did not want to pay for months of rental car, and t=
otaled the car. This was near the peak of crazy used car prices, so they pai=
d him substantially more than he gave the dealer for it.&nbsp;</div><div><br=
></div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Again, though, if the repai=
r garages do not want to work on it, there probably is some sound reason(s).=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">I have an engine rear main s=
eal leak on my '03 GMC Savana and used a seal leak additive which did stop t=
he leak for a while, but it has returned.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-si=
ze:small">After a few months of local&nbsp;driving (a few hundred miles) I n=
oticed the oil pressure was dropping again, I again replaced the filter and t=
he oil pressure went back to normal.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-si=
ze:small">I cannot prove it, but I believe the stop leak was plugging the fi=
lter as well as plugging the leak. It made me very cautious about using anyt=
hing like this again.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>This is t=
otally consistent with how most stop leak products work. &nbsp;I would only u=
se one on an engine that=E2=80=99s already toast.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div><=
br><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div></blockquote></=
div></div></body></html>=

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