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Thanks for all of the advice, guys. The area between the garage and the =
gate is not all that great and I think a single swinging gate would be =
more trouble than it is worth. That said, I am starting to think that a =
sliding gate might be the way to go and I have plenty of room on one =
side for the gate to slide. But, I know nothing about siding gates and =
have some research to do. And, fabricating one 16=E2=80=99 or so frame =
(I gather you need plenty of overlap on each end) seems a lot more work =
than two 6.5=E2=80=99 ones. Lots to figure out, but fortunately I have =
time. I=E2=80=99ll try to remember to update the list when I am done.
Jim
> On Feb 13, 2023, at 10:06 PM, old dirtbeard <dirtbeard@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> Hi Jim,
>=20
> My gate opening also is just over 13' and I am using a single swing =
gate with one of the GTO SW4000 XLS gate openers.=20
>=20
> This opener is rated for up to 20' gates and 1,000 lbs. It should be =
about $1,100 if you have room for a single swing gate:
> =
https://www.gatecrafters.com/product_detail_875.aspx?gclid=3DEAIaIQobChMIn=
bXKjIGU_QIVQRh9Ch1cAAq7EAQYASABEgIeJvD_BwE
>=20
> These all run on battery with a charger that could be from 110VAC. I =
ran 110 VAC in buried conduit to the gate (I wanted AC receptacles there =
anyway) and then plugged the charger in there, but you also could run =
the low voltage cable in the ground from the charger in the garage out =
to the gate.
>=20
> A solar charger also would be sufficient to keep the battery charged =
if you do not want to run cable or you do not want AC out at the gate. =
There really is no need for AC at the gate unless you want it..
>=20
> I also am just using the remote to open and close the gate from the =
cars, garage, house, etc. There is no reason to run control wires.
>=20
> I can send photos if you would like.
>=20
> best,
>=20
> doug
>=20
>=20
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 6:15 PM Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com =
>> The driveway opening is just over 13=E2=80=99, so two 6 1/2=E2=80=99 =
gates. The gates are about 40=E2=80=99 from the garage and I plan on =
burying a section of pvc conduit from the gate to the garage to run the =
wire and put the controls in the garage. I=E2=80=99ll probably use a =
battery backup, but our power is pretty reliable and I have a back-up =
generator wired into the main panel (manual transfer switch) so losing =
power wouldn=E2=80=99t be too big a deal. The back is pretty shaded and =
running wire to a sunny area for solar panel wouldn=E2=80=99t be any =
easier than just running it to the garage, so I=E2=80=99ll probably skip =
that. Weather-wise we are on Eastern Long Island and our climate =
isn=E2=80=99t too extreme, especially compared to Michigan!
>>=20
>> As for a keypad, whether or not I add one will depend on when I get =
this all done. We=E2=80=99re just starting an addition to our house and =
contractors and construction vehicles need access to the back driveway =
(our house is a thru lot). After that, it is pretty much just my wife =
and me and the main entrance to the house is in the front, so guests =
won=E2=80=99t often need access to the back.
>>=20
>> My main interest at this point is brand recommendations. It is hard =
to make exact comparisons, but it looks like the basic system (minus =
back up batteries, solar panels, etc.) will run me anywhere from around =
$700 to $2000, which is a pretty wide range. Common, readily available =
brands I=E2=80=99ve seen appear to be Mighty Mule, Ghost Controls, =
Topens. Doug on this list recommended a GTO until that looks really =
nice, but is about $1700 for dual gates and might be overkill for my =
needs. That said, having a trusted satisfied customer recommendation is =
worth a lot, so that remains in the consideration set.
>>=20
>> I=E2=80=99m still in the researching phase, so any input will be =
greatly appreciated.
>>=20
>> Jim
>>=20
>> > On Feb 13, 2023, at 3:43 PM, <alfuller194@gmail.com =
>> >=20
>> > Hi Jim:
>> >=20
>> > Do you have any particular needs as far as gate configuration go?
>> >=20
>> > My step-mother has a swing gate, but the clearance to the street =
means you
>> > have to [1] when entering wait on the street for it to open, with =
added risk
>> > of oncoming traffic, and [2] when leaving - wait on the street to =
ensure it
>> > closed.
>> >=20
>> > A condo complex in California had a lift-up gate, which constantly =
broke the
>> > belts that held up the gate. We really didn't need a lit gate, as =
there was
>> > never an snow...
>> >=20
>> > Places in Michigan had gates that swung or retracted, but they =
would get
>> > hung up in the snow or ice in the winter...
>> >=20
>> > If you are in a place where the electric power is unreliable, you =
might want
>> > to consider solar power and/or backup. Do you need or want to =
integrate a
>> > keypad into the controls? Same for an intercom?
>> >=20
>> > I'm sure there are more considerations, but those are what come =
immediately
>> > to mind.
>> >=20
>> > ----------------
>> > All the best,
>> >=20
>> > Al Fuller
>> >=20
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net =
>> > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2023 11:30 AM
>> > To: Shop Talk <shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net =
>> > Subject: [Shop-talk] Automatic driveway gates
>> >=20
>> > Does anyone have any experience installing automatic driveway gate =
openers?
>> > It looks pretty straight-forward, but any advice and/or brand
>> > recommendations would be greatly appreciated. I will be installing =
a dual
>> > gate opener for the driveway to my shop.
>> >=20
>> > Thanks,
>> > Jim
>> > _______________________________________________
>> >=20
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>> >=20
>> >=20
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> --=20
> Best,
>=20
> Doug
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Thanks for all =
of the advice, guys. The area between the garage and the gate is =
not all that great and I think a single swinging gate would be more =
trouble than it is worth. That said, I am starting to think that a =
sliding gate might be the way to go and I have plenty of room on one =
side for the gate to slide. But, I know nothing about siding gates =
and have some research to do. And, fabricating one 16=E2=80=99 or =
so frame (I gather you need plenty of overlap on each end) seems a lot =
more work than two 6.5=E2=80=99 ones. Lots to figure out, but =
fortunately I have time. I=E2=80=99ll try to remember to update =
the list when I am =
done.<div><br></div><div>Jim</div><div><br><div><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div>On Feb 13, 2023, at 10:06 PM, old dirtbeard =
<dirtbeard@gmail.com> wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Hi Jim,</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">My gate opening also =
is just over 13' and I am using a single swing gate with one of the GTO =
SW4000 XLS gate openers. </div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small">This opener is rated for up to 20' gates and =
1,000 lbs. It should be about $1,100 if you have room for a single swing =
gate:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><a =
href=3D"https://www.gatecrafters.com/product_detail_875.aspx?gclid=3DEAIaI=
QobChMInbXKjIGU_QIVQRh9Ch1cAAq7EAQYASABEgIeJvD_BwE">https://www.gatecrafte=
rs.com/product_detail_875.aspx?gclid=3DEAIaIQobChMInbXKjIGU_QIVQRh9Ch1cAAq=
7EAQYASABEgIeJvD_BwE</a></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small">These all run on battery with a charger that =
could be from 110VAC. I ran 110 VAC in buried conduit to the gate (I =
wanted AC receptacles there anyway) and then plugged the charger in =
there, but you also could run the low voltage cable in the ground from =
the charger in the garage out to the gate.</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">A solar charger also =
would be sufficient to keep the battery charged if you do not want to =
run cable or you do not want AC out at the gate. There really is no =
need for AC at the gate unless you want it..</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">I also am just using =
the remote to open and close the gate from the cars, garage, house, etc. =
There is no reason to run control wires.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default"=
style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small">I can send photos if you would like.</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">best,</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">doug</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div></div><br><div=
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb =
13, 2023 at 6:15 PM Jim Stone <<a =
href=3D"mailto:1789alpine@gmail.com";>1789alpine@gmail.com</a>> =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">The driveway opening is just over =
13=E2=80=99, so two 6 1/2=E2=80=99 gates. The gates are about =
40=E2=80=99 from the garage and I plan on burying a section of pvc =
conduit from the gate to the garage to run the wire and put the controls =
in the garage. I=E2=80=99ll probably use a battery backup, but our =
power is pretty reliable and I have a back-up generator wired into the =
main panel (manual transfer switch) so losing power wouldn=E2=80=99t be =
too big a deal. The back is pretty shaded and running wire to a =
sunny area for solar panel wouldn=E2=80=99t be any easier than just =
running it to the garage, so I=E2=80=99ll probably skip that. =
Weather-wise we are on Eastern Long Island and our climate isn=E2=80=99t =
too extreme, especially compared to Michigan!<br>
<br>
As for a keypad, whether or not I add one will depend on when I get this =
all done. We=E2=80=99re just starting an addition to our house and =
contractors and construction vehicles need access to the back driveway =
(our house is a thru lot). After that, it is pretty much just my =
wife and me and the main entrance to the house is in the front, so =
guests won=E2=80=99t often need access to the back.<br>
<br>
My main interest at this point is brand recommendations. It is =
hard to make exact comparisons, but it looks like the basic system =
(minus back up batteries, solar panels, etc.) will run me anywhere from =
around $700 to $2000, which is a pretty wide range. Common, =
readily available brands I=E2=80=99ve seen appear to be Mighty Mule, =
Ghost Controls, Topens. Doug on this list recommended a GTO until =
that looks really nice, but is about $1700 for dual gates and might be =
overkill for my needs. That said, having a trusted satisfied =
customer recommendation is worth a lot, so that remains in the =
consideration set.<br>
<br>
I=E2=80=99m still in the researching phase, so any input will be greatly =
appreciated.<br>
<br>
Jim<br>
<br>
> On Feb 13, 2023, at 3:43 PM, <<a =
href=3D"mailto:alfuller194@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">alfuller194@gmail.com</a>> <<a =
href=3D"mailto:alfuller194@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">alfuller194@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Hi Jim:<br>
> <br>
> Do you have any particular needs as far as gate configuration =
go?<br>
> <br>
> My step-mother has a swing gate, but the clearance to the street =
means you<br>
> have to [1] when entering wait on the street for it to open, with =
added risk<br>
> of oncoming traffic, and [2] when leaving - wait on the street to =
ensure it<br>
> closed.<br>
> <br>
> A condo complex in California had a lift-up gate, which constantly =
broke the<br>
> belts that held up the gate. We really didn't need a lit gate, as =
there was<br>
> never an snow...<br>
> <br>
> Places in Michigan had gates that swung or retracted, but they =
would get<br>
> hung up in the snow or ice in the winter...<br>
> <br>
> If you are in a place where the electric power is unreliable, you =
might want<br>
> to consider solar power and/or backup. Do you need or want to =
integrate a<br>
> keypad into the controls? Same for an intercom?<br>
> <br>
> I'm sure there are more considerations, but those are what come =
immediately<br>
> to mind.<br>
> <br>
> ----------------<br>
> All the best,<br>
> <br>
> Al Fuller<br>
> <br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Shop-talk <<a =
href=3D"mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> On Behalf Of =
Jim Stone<br>
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2023 11:30 AM<br>
> To: Shop Talk <<a href=3D"mailto:shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net"; =
target=3D"_blank">shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net</a>><br>
> Subject: [Shop-talk] Automatic driveway gates<br>
> <br>
> Does anyone have any experience installing automatic driveway gate =
openers?<br>
> It looks pretty straight-forward, but any advice and/or brand<br>
> recommendations would be greatly appreciated. I will be =
installing a dual<br>
> gate opener for the driveway to my shop.<br>
> <br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Jim<br>
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