Sorry. Classic case of "Look before you leap". Having a Honda generator
which I converted to LPG as back up power for a natural gas boiler
(furnace) I got carried away with the thought of conversion to natural
gas from lpg. If nothing else it may be worth saving the info if the
situation arises in the future.
Good wishes still apply.
Nick Brearley
On 22/08/2021 11:24, Donald H Locker wrote:
> I'm surprised to see responses assuming natural gas is the house supply.
>
> In the original post, Jim specifically stated that he has LPG/Propane
> house heating with a large tank for supply. Someone, somewhere along the
> line missed that fact and that piece of conversation went off the rails.
>
> Donald.
> --
>> On Aug 21, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I am on Eastern Long Island, directly in one of the projected paths of
>> Hurricane Henri. We are being told to plan for 7-10 days without
>> power, although FWIW we were only powerless for 4 days following
>> Sandy. Shortly after Sandy I purchased an LP Generator
>>
> <https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-tools-gen4000lp-4000-watt-propane-generator/?wi=off&gclid=CjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7zll1U54VH4euJneVO0jmOzjdgwy6-t0MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE>
>> which, of course, I have never needed, although I do run it
>> periodically to be safe. It is designed to run off of LP tanks and
>> comes with a standard regulator. A little Googling shows the
>> following specs for the regulator:
>>
>> Low Pressure Regulator
>> Inlet Pressure: 25-250PSIG
>> Outlet Pressure: 280mmH2O= (11"W.C.)
>> Flow Capacity(MAX): 119000(BTU/hr)
>>
>>
>> We use Propane for DHW and heat and have a 500 gallon in-ground tank.
>> I had an outside gas line stubbed out when the house was remodeled,
>> just in case I ever needed it and I would like to be able to connect
>> the generator directly to the house supply and avoid having to depend
>> on the portable tanks. The house supply is regulated and, as an
>> example, here are the specs for the water heater:
>>
>> Max Inlet Gas Pressure: 13.0 â??W.C.
>> Min Inlet Gas Pressure: 8.0 â??W.C.
>> Recovery Rating: 206/Gallons/HR
>> Max Working Pressure: 150psi
>> Max Output: 180,000 BTU/HR
>> Max Input: 11,000 BTU/HR
>> Manifold Pressure: 3.9 â??W.C. (For Max Input)
>>
>>
>> Am I missing anything, or should I be able to hook the generator
>> directly to the house supply without the regulator? For the record, I
>> tried it once with the regulator attached and it barely ran and didnâ??t
>> put out any appreciable power. I always meant to research this before
>> I needed it, but like many of us, never got around to it until now.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jim
> On 2021-08-22 5:56 a.m., nick brearley wrote:
>> Surprised nobody's responded to Phil's very valid concerns.
>>
>> I realise that this may not be helpful to Jim who's having to study the
>> weather radar at hourly intervals but I did a net search and came up
>> with this among other items:
>>
>> https://generatorgeek.com/can-a-propane-generator-run-on-natural-gas/
>>
>> Short answer, no without modification. As a minimum it must be worth a
>> phonecall to http://www.sportsmangenerators.com/contact.html. Although
>> bearing in mind these are wholesale importers they may not be the
>> ultimate authority. And not available until Monday.
>>
>> Good luck with the storm.
>>
>> Nick Brearley
>>
>>
>> On 21/08/2021 20:19, Phil Ethier wrote:
>>> No. LP gas and household natural gas are different. You need to rejet
>>> products to change over.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Aug 21, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  I am on Eastern Long Island, directly in one of the projected paths
>>>> of Hurricane Henri. Â We are being told to plan for 7-10 days without
>>>> power, although FWIW we were only powerless for 4 days following
>>>> Sandy. Â Shortly after Sandy I purchased an LP Generator
>>>> (https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-tools-gen4000lp-4000-watt-propane-generator/?wi=off&gclid=CjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7zll1U54VH4euJneVO0jmOzjdgwy6-t0MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE
>>>> <https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-tools-gen4000lp-4000-watt-propane-generator/?wi=off&gclid=CjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7zll1U54VH4euJneVO0jmOzjdgwy6-t0MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE>)
>>>> which, of course, I have never needed, although I do run it
>>>> periodically to be safe. Â It is designed to run off of LP tanks and
>>>> comes with a standard regulator. Â A little Googling shows the
>>>> following specs for the regulator:
>>>>
>>>> * Low Pressure Regulator
>>>> * Inlet Pressure: Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 25-250PSIG
>>>> * Outlet Pressure: Â Â Â Â Â Â 280mmH2O= (11"W.C.)
>>>> * Flow Capacity(MAX): Â Â 119000(BTU/hr)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We use Propane for DHW and heat and have a 500 gallon in-ground tank.
>>>> Â I had an outside gas line stubbed out when the house was remodeled,
>>>> just in case I ever needed it and I would like to be able to connect
>>>> the generator directly to the house supply and avoid having to depend
>>>> on the portable tanks. Â The house supply is regulated and, as an
>>>> example, here are the specs for the water heater:
>>>>
>>>> * Max Inlet Gas Pressure: Â Â 13.0 â??W.C.
>>>> * Min Inlet Gas Pressure: Â Â 8.0 â??W.C.
>>>> * Recovery Rating: Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 206/Gallons/HR
>>>> * Max Working Pressure: Â Â 150psi
>>>> * Max Output: Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 180,000 BTU/HR
>>>> * Max Input: Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 11,000 BTU/HR
>>>> * Manifold Pressure: Â Â Â Â Â Â 3.9 â??W.C. (For Max Input)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am I missing anything, or should I be able to hook the generator
>>>> directly to the house supply without the regulator? Â For the record,
>>>> I tried it once with the regulator attached and it barely ran and
>>>> didnâ??t put out any appreciable power. Â I always meant to research
>>>> this before I needed it, but like many of us, never got around to it
>>>> until now.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>>
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