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John & group -
Going through something similar. This is gonna be a bit long, but it's a
more complex situation than it may appear to be. A bit of background -
I've been in and around the music and A/V business for close to 60 years. 9
of my 11 years of AF active duty I played in several AF bands, always doing
sound and recording as an "additional duty". I also designed and built a
couple of
in-house studios. The last two years of my active duty time I did film
sound recording, editing and mixer for a DoD outfit in SoCal. A couple
years later I ended up in DC working for Naval Media, and started working
with digital audio for film and TV projects. So, I've seen things go from
1/4 inch reel-to-reel tape through 35 and 16 mm magnetic film to analog,
then digital videotape, to all of the digital formats we play with today. I
retired from the VA in Temple, TX, three years ago after 20 years working
as a TV engineer/photographer, so I've played with all of the different
media formats over the years.
We have three Samsung 4K TVs. Regarding sound out, you should be able to
select the sound output to the TV speakers, the HTiB receiver and maybe one
or two other options, depending on how you have things connected. Look
under Settings>Sound Speakers or Output. On some TVs you can switch the
audio output on each input individually, on others it's a universal setting
for all the inputs. I suggest you draw this all out for yourself in pencil
and have an eraser handy.
I've attached a diagram of the following - In our MBR, the system I'm
working on now, we have a Dish Hopper going through a Yamaha A/V receiver
then to the TV. First problem occurred when I routed a new Sony 4K DVD
player through the Yamaha. I couldn't play 4K DVDs, but Blu-Rays played
fine. After a lot of head scratching and more than a few choice words, I
contacted Yamaha T/S and found out that the several y/o receiver (RX-A840)
only supports HDMI 2.0, not 2.2, which the Sony needs to play 4K discs, so
currently the 4K player is connected directly to the second HDMI port of
the TV. To get the audio from the DVD player back into the Yamaha, I come
out of the optical audio port back to one of the optical ports on the
Yamaha. Works fine.
Things got complicated when I decided to playback 4K movie files from hard
drives or other removable devices. I've got a couple of USB3 8TB drives
full of movies. One is all 4K files. Some of these are formatted
slightly differently than others and require a seperate audio codec. plus
the TV has only 1 USB port. After posting questions to a worldwide media
list I've been on since the late '90s when I built my first digital A/V
editing system, the consensus was that I needed a "media player" to connect
the two hard drives to the TV, so I ordered a MyPin M29 media player, $60
from Amazon. It supported the file formats I needed, but it wouldn't let me
turn off subtitles/closed captioning (bummer) and I get frequent, subtle
"stuttering" in the audio (MAJOR bummer). If I plugged the 4K hard drive
into either my Mac or PC and used VLC, everything worked fine, but I want
to watch these movies on the 55 inch in our bedroom. An added problem was
that the output of the MyPin player is HDMI and I was already out of HDMI
ports on the TV. So, after several discussions with several folks, I
ordered a Lenovo M75 Tiny mini PC and plan to run Plex server as the core
of a home media server down the road. The hard drives plug into it, and
there's plenty of room for expansion.
Now, how to get these additional souces into the TV? While working to
connect all of these input devices I noticed that TESmart has a 4 x 1 HDMI
switch. I'm using one of their KVM switches to let me control a couple of
Macs and a PC with a single keyboard and mouse for some time and it works
great. I sent their tech folks a note describing my issues with 4K and they
said try it. The switch was $25 and they offer a 30 day return.
Unfortunately it won't work with 4K so it's going back next week. After
talking to a Ford AV systems engineer in Austin that I've worked with
before, I ordered a Monoprice (31057) switch/scaler that Monoprice promises
will do what I need. It, too, has a 30 return.
Sorry if i've been a bit long winded but setting up all of these boxe to
work together, especially with 4K is a bit complex. The reason I'm going
through all of this detail is that if anyone's not doing 4K video, all of
the simpler routing and switching should work fine. However, if you have
ANY thoughts of going to 4K, plan for that now. Hopefully I can save other
folks some blood, sweat & tears!
RD
On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 12:39 PM john niolon <jniolon@att.net> wrote:
> Hi guys. is there a tv/audio guru that can drag me thru a
> tv/U-verse/home theatre quandry ?? shop content is I watch shop videos on
> u-tube
>
> john
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<div dir=3D"ltr">John & group -<div><br></div><div>Going through someth=
ing similar. This is gonna be a bit long, but it's a more complex situa=
tion than it may appear to be. A bit of background=C2=A0 -</div><div><br></=
div><div>I've been in and around the music and A/V business for close t=
o 60 years. 9 of my 11 years of AF active duty I played in several AF bands=
, always doing sound and recording as an "additional duty". I als=
o designed and built a couple of <br>in-house studios. The last two years o=
f my active duty time I did film sound recording, editing and mixer for a D=
oD outfit in SoCal. A couple years later I ended up in DC working for Naval=
Media, and started working with digital audio for film and TV projects. So=
, I've seen things go from 1/4 inch reel-to-reel tape through 35 and 16=
mm magnetic film to analog, then digital videotape,=C2=A0to all of the dig=
ital formats we play with today. I retired from the VA in Temple, TX, three=
years ago after 20 years working as a TV engineer/photographer, so I'v=
e played with all of the different media formats over the years.</div><div>=
<br></div><div>We have three Samsung 4K TVs. Regarding sound out, you shoul=
d be able to select the sound output to the TV speakers, the HTiB receiver =
and maybe one or two other options, depending on how you have things connec=
ted. Look under Settings>Sound Speakers or Output. On some TVs you can s=
witch the audio output on each input individually, on others it's a uni=
versal setting for all the inputs. I suggest you draw this all out for your=
self in pencil and have an=C2=A0eraser handy.</div><div><br></div><div>I=
9;ve attached a diagram of the following - In our MBR, the system I'm w=
orking on now, we have a Dish Hopper going through a Yamaha A/V receiver th=
en to the TV. First problem occurred when I routed a new Sony 4K DVD player=
through=C2=A0the Yamaha. I couldn't play 4K DVDs, but Blu-Rays played =
fine. After a lot of head scratching and more than a few choice words, I co=
ntacted Yamaha T/S and found out that the several y/o receiver (RX-A840) on=
ly supports HDMI 2.0, not 2.2, which the Sony needs to play 4K discs, so cu=
rrently the 4K player is connected directly to the second HDMI port of the =
TV. To get the audio from the DVD player back into the Yamaha, I come out o=
f the optical audio port back to one of the optical ports on the Yamaha. Wo=
rks fine.</div><div><br></div><div>Things got complicated when I decided to=
playback 4K movie files from hard drives or other removable devices. I'=
;ve got a couple of USB3 8TB drives full of movies. One is all 4K files. So=
me of these are formatted slightly=C2=A0differently than others and require=
a seperate audio codec. plus the TV has only 1 USB port. After posting que=
stions to a worldwide media list I've been on since the late '90s w=
hen I built my first digital A/V editing system, the consensus was that I n=
eeded a "media player" to connect the two hard drives to the TV, =
so I ordered a MyPin M29 media player, $60 from Amazon. It supported the fi=
le formats I needed, but it wouldn't let me turn off subtitles/closed c=
aptioning (bummer) and I get frequent, subtle "stuttering" in the=
audio (MAJOR bummer). If I plugged the 4K hard drive into either my Mac or=
PC and used VLC, everything worked fine, but I want to watch these movies =
on the 55 inch in our bedroom. An added problem was that the output of the =
MyPin player=C2=A0is HDMI and I was already out of HDMI ports on the TV. So=
, after several discussions with several folks, I ordered a Lenovo M75 Tiny=
mini PC and plan to run Plex server as the core of a home media server dow=
n the road. The hard drives plug into it, and there's plenty of room fo=
r expansion.</div><div><br></div><div>Now, how to get these additional souc=
es into the TV? While working to connect all of these input devices I notic=
ed that TESmart has a 4 x 1 HDMI switch. I'm using one of their KVM swi=
tches to let me control a couple of Macs and a PC with a single keyboard an=
d mouse for some time and it works great. I sent their tech folks a note de=
scribing my issues with 4K and they said try it. The switch was $25 and the=
y offer a 30 day return. Unfortunately it won't work with 4K so it'=
s going back next week. After talking to a Ford AV systems engineer in Aust=
in that I've worked with before, I ordered a Monoprice (31057) switch/s=
caler that Monoprice promises will do what I need. It, too, has a 30 return=
.</div><div><br></div><div>Sorry if i've been a bit long winded but set=
ting up all of these boxe to work together, especially with 4K is a bit com=
plex. The reason I'm going through all of this detail is that if anyone=
's not doing 4K video, all of the simpler routing and switching should =
work fine. However, if you have ANY thoughts of going to 4K, plan for that =
now. Hopefully I can save other folks some blood, sweat & tears!</div><=
div><br></div><div>RD</div><div><br></div><div></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 14, 2020=
at 12:39 PM john niolon <<a href=3D"mailto:jniolon@att.net"; target=3D"_=
blank">jniolon@att.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,2=
04);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div>Hi guys.=C2=A0=C2=A0 is there a tv/audio guru that can drag me thru a =
tv/U-verse/home theatre quandry ??=C2=A0 shop content is I watch shop video=
s on u-tube</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>john</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div></div>
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