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Re: [Shop-talk] Looking to buy a compressor

To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Looking to buy a compressor
From: Darrell Walker <darrellw360@mac.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 19:12:56 -0700
Cc: "Shop-talk@autox.team.net" <Shop-talk@autox.team.net>
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Yes, I=E2=80=99m planning to put all of the things to drain in the same =
area, so hopefully I=E2=80=99ll do that regularly.

-Darrell

> On Aug 11, 2020, at 6:24 PM, DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote:
>=20
> Cool.  You'll need to drain the drip leg periodically, it will fill up =
pretty quickly.
>=20
> Dave=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darrell Walker <darrellw360@mac.com>
> To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
> Cc: Shop-talk@autox.team.net <Shop-talk@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tue, Aug 11, 2020 8:06 pm
> Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Looking to buy a compressor
>=20
>=20
> I plan to have the output of the radiator exit down, with a tee.  =
I=E2=80=99m going to put a drip leg, then take the air out of the side =
of the tee.  That will feed into my filter/moisture separator, hopefully =
the liquid will run down into the drip leg.
>=20
> I=E2=80=99ll post pictures and results when I get it all plumbed.
>=20
> -Darrell
>=20
>> On Aug 11, 2020, at 6:00 PM, DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com =
>>=20
>> What are your plans for getting rid of the water?  Most dryers have =
some sort of drain, either float actuated or a timer/solenoid valve =
set-up.  But will the transmission coolers self-drain?
>>=20
>> Dave=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Darrell Walker <darrellw360@mac.com =
>> Sent: Tue, Aug 11, 2020 7:07 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Looking to buy a compressor
>>=20
>>=20
>> Yes, the objective is to reduce moisture.  I don=E2=80=99t have a lot =
of space for long runs of iron pipe, so I=E2=80=99m looking at using a =
transmission radiator.
>>=20
>> The compressor arrived today (one advantage of getting it from Lowes, =
they had some in stock).  And the delivery guys even put it into the =
garage for me (gave them a nice tip since I didn=E2=80=99t have to drag =
it up the driveway).
>>=20
>> My wife=E2=80=99s reaction was similar to what someone else reported, =
=E2=80=9Cthat=E2=80=99s big=E2=80=9D.
>>=20
>> -Darrell
>>=20
>> > On Aug 11, 2020, at 1:20 PM, <alfuller194@gmail.com =
>> >=20
>> > What are you trying to accomplish with the aftercooler?
>> >=20
>> > If it is to get water/vapor out of the compressed air, consider =
using iron pipe for distribution. The pipe should cool down the water =
vaper and allow it to condense and flow to a low point for removal.
>> >=20
>> > ----------------
>> > All the best,
>> >=20
>> > Al Fuller
>> >=20
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net =
>> > Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 8:14 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Looking to buy a compressor
>> >=20
>> >=20
>> > I thought I=E2=80=99d update you all on my compressor search.  I =
purchased the Kobalt 60 gallon, two-stage from Lowe=E2=80=99s.  It =
mostly came down to the weight of the Quincy unit, not sure I could =
handle a nearly 500 lb compressor, and getting anyone to help is =
problematic.
>> >=20
>> > Now I=E2=80=99m researching after-coolers.  I=E2=80=99ve found =
several ideal using a transmission cooler.  I understand that putting it =
between the compressor and the tank is most effective, but I=E2=80=99m a =
little hesitant to start re-plumbing my brand new compressor.  So I may =
install it on the outflow.  I=E2=80=99ve seen other designs using a =
series of pipe loops, but space is a bit of concern, so the transmission =
cooler with a fan to cool is more inline with what I can install.
>> >=20
>> > Any thoughts or experience on aftercoolers would be appreciated!
>> >=20
>> > Thanks,
>> > Darrell
>> >=20
>> >=20
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class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>Yes, I=E2=80=99m planning to put all of =
the things to drain in the same area, so hopefully I=E2=80=99ll do that =
regularly.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">-Darrell<br=
 class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Aug 11, 2020, at 6:24 PM, DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com"; class=3D"">dave1massey@cs.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D"">
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<div class=3D""> <font size=3D"3" class=3D"">Cool.&nbsp; You'll need to =
drain the drip leg periodically, it will fill up pretty =
quickly.</font><br class=3D"">
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<div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 10pt;" =
class=3D"">-----Original Message-----<br class=3D"">
From: Darrell Walker &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:darrellw360@mac.com"; =
class=3D"">darrellw360@mac.com</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">
To: DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com"; =
class=3D"">dave1massey@cs.com</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">
Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">Shop-talk@autox.team.net</a> &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">Shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">
Sent: Tue, Aug 11, 2020 8:06 pm<br class=3D"">
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Looking to buy a compressor<br class=3D"">
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I plan to have the output of the radiator exit down, with a tee. =
&nbsp;I=E2=80=99m going to put a drip leg, then take the air out of the =
side of the tee. &nbsp;That will feed into my filter/moisture separator, =
hopefully the liquid will run down into the drip leg.
<div class=3D"yiv2268253414"><br class=3D"yiv2268253414" =
clear=3D"none"></div>

<div class=3D"yiv2268253414">I=E2=80=99ll post pictures and results when =
I get it all plumbed.</div>

<div class=3D"yiv2268253414"><br class=3D"yiv2268253414" =
clear=3D"none"></div>

<div class=3D"yiv2268253414">-Darrell<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" =
clear=3D"none">
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<div class=3D""><br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none"><blockquote =
class=3D"yiv2268253414" type=3D"cite">
<div class=3D"yiv2268253414">On Aug 11, 2020, at 6:00 PM, DAVID MASSEY =
&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv2268253414" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com";>dave1massey@cs.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv2268253414">

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style=3D"font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-siz=
e:12pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">

<div class=3D"yiv2268253414"> <font class=3D"yiv2268253414" =
size=3D"3">What are your plans for getting rid of the water?&nbsp; Most =
dryers have some sort of drain, either float actuated or a =
timer/solenoid valve set-up.&nbsp; But will the transmission coolers =
self-drain?</font><br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">
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<div class=3D"yiv2268253414" style=3D"font-family:arial, =
helvetica;font-size:10pt;">-----Original Message-----<br =
class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">
From: Darrell Walker &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" =
class=3D"yiv2268253414" ymailto=3D"mailto:darrellw360@mac.com"; =
target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"mailto:darrellw360@mac.com";>darrellw360@mac.com</a>&gt;<br =
class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">
To: <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv2268253414" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net";>Shop-talk@autox.team.net</a><br =
class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">
Sent: Tue, Aug 11, 2020 7:07 pm<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">=

Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Looking to buy a compressor<br =
class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">
<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">


<div class=3D"yiv2268253414" dir=3D"ltr"><br class=3D"yiv2268253414" =
clear=3D"none">Yes, the objective is to reduce moisture.&nbsp; I don=E2=80=
=99t have a lot of space for long runs of iron pipe, so I=E2=80=99m =
looking at using a transmission radiator.<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" =
clear=3D"none"><br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">The compressor =
arrived today (one advantage of getting it from Lowes, they had some in =
stock).&nbsp; And the delivery guys even put it into the garage for me =
(gave them a nice tip since I didn=E2=80=99t have to drag it up the =
driveway).<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none"><br =
class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">My wife=E2=80=99s reaction was =
similar to what someone else reported, =E2=80=9Cthat=E2=80=99s =
big=E2=80=9D.<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none"><br =
class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">-Darrell<br class=3D"yiv2268253414"=
 clear=3D"none">

<div class=3D"yiv2268253414yqt5563679320" =
id=3D"yiv2268253414yqtfd43043"><br class=3D"yiv2268253414" =
clear=3D"none">&gt; On Aug 11, 2020, at 1:20 PM, &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" =
shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv2268253414" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:alfuller194@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"mailto:alfuller194@gmail.com";>alfuller194@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv2268253414" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:alfuller194@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"mailto:alfuller194@gmail.com";>alfuller194@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; <br =
class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; What are you trying to =
accomplish with the aftercooler?<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" =
clear=3D"none">&gt; <br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; If =
it is to get water/vapor out of the compressed air, consider using iron =
pipe for distribution. The pipe should cool down the water vaper and =
allow it to condense and flow to a low point for removal.<br =
class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; <br class=3D"yiv2268253414" =
clear=3D"none">&gt; ----------------<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" =
clear=3D"none">&gt; All the best,<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" =
clear=3D"none">&gt; <br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; Al =
Fuller<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; <br =
class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; -----Original =
Message-----<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; From: =
Shop-talk &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv2268253414" =
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class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] =
Looking to buy a compressor<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt;=
 <br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; <br =
class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; I thought I=E2=80=99d update =
you all on my compressor search.&nbsp; I purchased the Kobalt 60 gallon, =
two-stage from Lowe=E2=80=99s.&nbsp; It mostly came down to the weight =
of the Quincy unit, not sure I could handle a nearly 500 lb compressor, =
and getting anyone to help is problematic.<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" =
clear=3D"none">&gt; <br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; Now =
I=E2=80=99m researching after-coolers.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99ve found several =
ideal using a transmission cooler.&nbsp; I understand that putting it =
between the compressor and the tank is most effective, but I=E2=80=99m a =
little hesitant to start re-plumbing my brand new compressor.&nbsp; So I =
may install it on the outflow.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99ve seen other designs =
using a series of pipe loops, but space is a bit of concern, so the =
transmission cooler with a fan to cool is more inline with what I can =
install.<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; <br =
class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; Any thoughts or experience =
on aftercoolers would be appreciated!<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" =
clear=3D"none">&gt; <br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; =
Thanks,<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; Darrell<br =
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