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Re: [Shop-talk] Outdoor metal halide lights...it's not the bulbs

To: Scott Hall <scott.hall.personal@gmail.com>, shop-talk@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Outdoor metal halide lights...it's not the bulbs
From: Brian Kemp via Shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2019 07:23:17 -0700
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There might be a photo cell somewhere to also help control the lights so 
they only come on at night.  Did you test it the next day when it was dark?

Some photo controlled lights, when they first get power will come on for 
a period of time.  After which they revert to the photo cell.

Brian

On 3/22/2019 9:35 PM, Scott Hall via Shop-talk wrote:
> To summarize thus far:
>
>
> It wasn't the bulbs. Those lights, and some other stuff in the 
> backyard are controlled by their own breaker box...in the basement 
> storage area, behind a shelf, behind the HVAC system...that I found 
> when I was re-lighting a water heater pilot.
>
>
> *Then* one of the light switches literally on the other side of the 
> house has to be switched, and those fixtures light. I can't imagine 
> why that switch is where it is, but both fixtures lit. They do not 
> seem to be motion-sensitive. You just go down a flight of steps, 
> across the house, into the storage area, and remove the built-in 
> shelving some idiot built in front of the box, then the light switch 
> even farther back in that room can be used to turn on those lights. 
> Imagine my delight. I just thought the pool bulb was burned out, and I 
> didn't even know those rocks had lights under them. Neato.
>
>
> I left them on for a few hours, admiring how the backyard looked 
> suspiciously like a baseball stadium and wondering what the previous 
> owner was doing back there. Maybe literally playing baseball. God 
> knows you wouldn't have any visibility issues.
>
>
> Turned off the lights, went to bed. Next day, the left roof fixture 
> won't light. Well now it's a mission from God.
>
>
> Excellent suggestion made here was taken, 42-foot extension ladder 
> rented, bulb swapped. It's not the bulb. Or at least the bulb I bought 
> looks exactly like the bulb that came out and is rated at 400 watts, 
> which is what the old bulb and the fixture says. The old bulb does not 
> appear damaged. Perhaps there's a fuse or breaker in this thing. 
> Before I disassemble the fixture, the hive mind will be consulted.
>
>
> The fixture's front cover unscrews and flips open. Under it is this 
> (well, this below the bulb housing):
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DEe84KmqUuxmO5A2mRlRWYdK1pR3Qidj/view?usp=sharing
>  
>
>
>
> The sticker on the left side looks like a wiring diagram:
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1M7q_VBTcsc88Or6MxjO5Achscw-P-mn4/view?usp=sharing
>  
>
>
>
> Might those things in the lower left quadrant be fuses? There is 
> another metal plate cover under that sticker under which could live 
> something user-serviceable. But before I start screwing with stuff 40 
> feet in the air, you know, I should at least ask. Or offer to video it.
>
>
> Any thoughts welcome. Thanks.
>
>
> (I think that ladder is the very definition of 'attractive nuisance'. 
> I have to return it tomorrow morning, but oh the things I could access 
> if I bought one! So easy to paralyze or maim myself so quickly! Of all 
> the equipment I've rented, this may be the one thing I'm not 
> completely sure they should let homeowners have access to. It's the 
> first thing I've done that I found myself actually thinking, "this 
> could go very bad, very quickly, if I'm not very careful.")
>
>
>
>
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