Let me state upfront that I do like my 2010 Prius.
That said, "numb" is a great way to describe it.
It's my understanding that the brakes are computer
controlled. This leads to zero road feel in the brake
pedal, and it works oddly at times.
Sometimes, I put my foot on the brake, and it slams
on immediately with very little travel in the pedal.
Other times, I put my foot on the brake, and it travels
a very long way before reluctantly slowing down the
car. If I persist, it will stop, but in its own sweet time.
Luckily, after someone rear ended me (lots of damage)
last year, the brakes have been better (no idea why)
but they are still chancy enough that I will not be
handing this car down to my son when he gets his
license.
I have a friend who occasionally needs to drive one
of our cars, and she strongly prefers the 2005 to the
2010.
I had to take my car to an independent mechanic
(Luscious Garage) to get the headlights adjusted,
because they were so low I could not see to drive
at night, and the dealership kept telling me they were
fine.
Had I known then what I know now, I would have
kept my Acura TSX and waited for a Volt, or Leaf,
or something.
I don't see having a hybrid or electric car as something
that I'm doing directly for the environment. I am
supporting the technology so that it improves to the
point where it *does* make a big difference.
Shannah
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Paul Parkanzky <parkanzky@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have to agree that the modern Toyotas have pretty terrible seats and are
> incredibly numb to drive. And that's comparing it to our '09 TDI Jetta and
> '10 TDI Golf. For the record, I don't like the seats in the Jetta nearly
> as
> well as in the Golf, but they're still better than the Toyotas I've driven.
>
> -Paul
>
> On Jan 29, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Michael Porter <mdporter@dfn.com> wrote:
>
> > On 1/29/2013 9:11 AM, John Miller wrote:
> >>> Apples and oranges. Your M5 is a car with an MRSP of over $80K.
> >> 70k E39, and that has nothing to do with it.
> >
> > Oh, yes, it does, because that's your standard for comparison (what
> year?-a
> 2007 is $82K). $70K is still about double the cost of the cars to which
> you're making a judgment.
> >> I just dragged home a freebie '86 Celica beater that has better
> seats,
> better material quality, and better outward visibility than any present
> Toyota.
> >
> > And, your `86 Celica gets about 22-24 mpg overall. Don't kid a kidder--I
> was a Toyota factory-trained, master line mechanic in the `80s. I know the
> technology of that time.
> >
> > Good cars for the age, but, don't bullshit me.
> >
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > Michael Porter
> > Roswell, NM
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