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Re: [Shop-talk] Nova - PBS show

To: "Bill Gingerich" <bill@gingerich.us>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Nova - PBS show
From: "Elton E. (Tony) Clark" <eltonclark@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:58:20 -0500
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*
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Bill Gingerich <bill@gingerich.us> wrote:

> John,
>
> I've actually watched that episode twice - it was on several months ago
> here
> in OKC.  I found the idea of creating a micro-organism that can digest and
> ferment corn stalks (and other less desirable bio matter) into ethanol to
> be
> very interesting.  One of my big questions is how much energy does it take
> to convert corn to ethanol?  I mean the whole thing - tractors and
> fertilizer to grow corn, the harvesting and transportation to the plant,
> and
> the actual conversion.  Do we really save anything?  I just don't know.
>
> An interesting tidbit I recently discovered.  Oklahoma has a law that says
> anyone who works on an "alternative fuel" vehicle (hybrid, electric, LNG,
> LP, fuel cell, whatever) has to have a special certification that can cost
> over $1000 to get.  Each violation is punishable by a $1000 fine and/or 1
> year in jail.  This applies to anyone, even if I'm working on my own
> vehicle.  So if I wanted to build an electric Spitfire, I could be fined
> and
> thrown in jail.  I know hybrids use batteries with voltages in the
> hundreds,
> so safety can be an issue.  The language of the law just seems a bit broad
> to me.  Anyway, I thought it was interesting.
>
> 73
>
> BillG
> Newalla, OK
> KA0GOG
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shop-talk-bounces+bill=gingerich.us@autox.team.net
> [mailto:shop-talk-bounces+bill <shop-talk-bounces%2Bbill>=gingerich.us@
> autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> John T. Blair
> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 7:18 PM
> To: shop-talk@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Shop-talk] Nova - PBS show
>
> Gang,
>
> Did anyone watch Nova last night (Tue.)?  It was a very interesting show
> with Click & Clack about alternative fuel and new/alternative cars.
>
> I was plesantly supprised when they addressed things like Ethynol they
> actually said that it's not the beat all end all.  We don't have the land
> to
> grow enough corn for it.
>
> All in all, an interesting show.  However, there were several things that
> I'd have liked to see them go a little more in depth in.  But you can only
> do so much in a 1 hr. show.
>
> John
>
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