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Re: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 195, Issue 1

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Subject: Re: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 195, Issue 1
From: Eric Russell <ejrussell61@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2023 14:10:52 -0400
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I believe a tach (short for tachometer) and rev counter refer to the same
instrument.

And, yes, all MGAs came with a tach as original equipment.

EjR

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> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2023 16:21:38 -0400
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> My guess is an MGA tach face (Jaeger) or perhaps MGA tach face & case was
> used with a different tach's internals. MGB tachs were 'Smiths'.
>
> MGB tach for MGA is described here:
> http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/electric/et202c.htm
>
> EjR
>
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> > Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2023 00:22:55 +0000
> > From: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
> > To: "mgs@autox.team.net" <mgs@autox.team.net>
> > Subject: [Mgs] mga 1500 with early 5 main mgb engine
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> > Negative ground, car runs smoothly, need to install the electric tach
> > which supposedly was previously installed in this car and working.
> >
> > On the back view, what hooks up where?  I am pretty sure the tab, and t=
he
> > screw, are ground.
> >
> > The other two - one needs to go to power and the other to the coil.  I
> > think one is a female bullet connector; the other is male.  Which goes =
to
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2023 17:52:40 -0700
> > From: Max Heim <mvheim@sonic.net>
> > To: "mgs@autox.team.net" <mgs@autox.team.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Mgs] mga 1500 with early 5 main mgb engine
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> > Hmm, the back of that tach case has obviously been modified. Are you su=
re
> > it still contains the matching internals? I say this because for 20
> years I
> > ran my Mk. I MGB with the original tach case, faceplate & needle, but
> with
> > a cheap auto parts store mini-tach inside the case. The only
> modifications
> > were two small screw holes to attach the mechanism.
> >
> > An original MGB Mk. I tach would have had a loop in the white wire,
> > attached to the back of the case with a thumb nut and a thin U-shaped
> brass
> > bracket. I am not seeing that on yours.
> >
> > Actually, I guess it is unclear whether you are talking about an MGA ta=
ch
> > or an early MGB tach...
> >
> > --
> > Max Heim
> > '66 MGB
> >
> > > On Jul 30, 2023, at 5:22 PM, dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Negative ground, car runs smoothly, need to install the electric tach
> > which supposedly was previously installed in this car and working.
> > >
> > > On the back view, what hooks up where?  I am pretty sure the tab, and
> > the screw, are ground.
> > >
> > > The other two ? one needs to go to power and the other to the coil.  =
I
> > think one is a female bullet connector; the other is male.  Which goes =
to
> > power and which to the coil?
> > > <tach front view.jpg><tach rear
> > view.jpg>_______________________________________________
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> > Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2023 08:38:26 +0100
> > From: Paul Hunt <paulbhunt73@gmail.com>
> > To: mgs@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Mgs] mga 1500 with early 5 main mgb engine
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> > Not an MGB reference number, it looks like it has later internals than
> > but would still be the current-operated type i.e. RVI where the power t=
o
> > the coil comes via the tach.? The ignition switch would be connected to
> > the male bullet and the female bullet to the coil.? 12v (also from the
> > ignition) to the spade and earth to the case.? When used on the MGB
> > there were separate wires from the ignition switch to the spade and to
> > the male bullet but you can tee from one to the other rather than
> > running a separate wire.
> >
> > It would have been helpful to see the top half of the dial where it
> > might have shown RVI and what polarity it was.? I suspect it would show
> > positive earth, but those electronics would have been used with negativ=
e
> > earth in an MGB for example so it looks like it has been converted by
> > swapping the guts instead of swapping the wires round internally.? If
> > that tach was used after the car was converted to negative earth it
> > would make sense.
> >
> > PaulH.
> >
> > On 31/07/2023 01:22, dave northrup wrote:
> > >
> > > Negative ground, car runs smoothly, need to install the electric tach
> > > which supposedly was previously installed in this car and working.
> > >
> > > On the back view, what hooks up where?? I am pretty sure the tab, and
> > > the screw, are ground.
> > >
> > > The other two ? one needs to go to power and the other to the coil.? =
I
> > > think one is a female bullet connector; the other is male.? Which goe=
s
> > > to power and which to the coil?
> > >
> > >
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> Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2023 08:13:10 +0100
> From: Paul Hunt <paulbhunt73@gmail.com>
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> Did any MGAs leave the factory with a tach?? Early MGBs had a rev
> counter before they got the tach.
>
> On 31/07/2023 21:21, Eric Russell wrote:
> > My guess is an MGA tach face (Jaeger) or perhaps MGA tach face & case
> > was used with a different tach's internals. MGB tachs were 'Smiths'.
> >
> > MGB tach for MGA is described here:
> > http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/electric/et202c.htm
> >
> > EjR
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 2:08?PM <mgs-request@autox.team.net> wrote:
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> >     ? ?1. mga 1500 with early 5 main mgb engine (dave northrup)
> >     ? ?2. Re: mga 1500 with early 5 main mgb engine (Max Heim)
> >     ? ?3. Re: mga 1500 with early 5 main mgb engine (Paul Hunt)
> >
> >
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> >     Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2023 00:22:55 +0000
> >     From: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
> >     To: "mgs@autox.team.net" <mgs@autox.team.net>
> >     Subject: [Mgs] mga 1500 with early 5 main mgb engine
> >     Message-ID: <8ba46f6ebee14b168b5e753f84b72499@ranteer.com>
> >     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"
> >
> >     Negative ground, car runs smoothly, need to install the electric
> >     tach which supposedly was previously installed in this car and
> >     working.
> >
> >     On the back view, what hooks up where?? I am pretty sure the tab,
> >     and the screw, are ground.
> >
> >     The other two - one needs to go to power and the other to the
> >     coil.? I think one is a female bullet connector; the other is
> >     male.? Which goes to power and which to the coil?
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> >     Message: 2
> >     Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2023 17:52:40 -0700
> >     From: Max Heim <mvheim@sonic.net>
> >     To: "mgs@autox.team.net" <mgs@autox.team.net>
> >     Subject: Re: [Mgs] mga 1500 with early 5 main mgb engine
> >     Message-ID: <983CC3D7-127F-4FD9-97E0-7533897C6FFD@sonic.net>
> >     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"
> >
> >     Hmm, the back of that tach case has obviously been modified. Are
> >     you sure it still contains the matching internals? I say this
> >     because for 20 years I ran my Mk. I MGB with the original tach
> >     case, faceplate & needle, but with a cheap auto parts store
> >     mini-tach inside the case. The only modifications were two small
> >     screw holes to attach the mechanism.
> >
> >     An original MGB Mk. I tach would have had a loop in the white
> >     wire, attached to the back of the case with a thumb nut and a thin
> >     U-shaped brass bracket. I am not seeing that on yours.
> >
> >     Actually, I guess it is unclear whether you are talking about an
> >     MGA tach or an early MGB tach...
> >
> >     --
> >     Max Heim
> >     '66 MGB
> >
> >     > On Jul 30, 2023, at 5:22 PM, dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
> wrote:
> >     >
> >     > Negative ground, car runs smoothly, need to install the electric
> >     tach which supposedly was previously installed in this car and
> >     working.
> >     >
> >     > On the back view, what hooks up where?? I am pretty sure the
> >     tab, and the screw, are ground.
> >     >
> >     > The other two ? one needs to go to power and the other to the
> >     coil.? I think one is a female bullet connector; the other is
> >     male.? Which goes to power and which to the coil?
> >     > <tach front view.jpg><tach rear
> >     view.jpg>_______________________________________________
> >     >
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> >     Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2023 08:38:26 +0100
> >     From: Paul Hunt <paulbhunt73@gmail.com>
> >     To: mgs@autox.team.net
> >     Subject: Re: [Mgs] mga 1500 with early 5 main mgb engine
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> >     Not an MGB reference number, it looks like it has later internals
> >     than
> >     but would still be the current-operated type i.e. RVI where the
> >     power to
> >     the coil comes via the tach.? The ignition switch would be
> >     connected to
> >     the male bullet and the female bullet to the coil.? 12v (also from
> >     the
> >     ignition) to the spade and earth to the case.? When used on the MGB
> >     there were separate wires from the ignition switch to the spade
> >     and to
> >     the male bullet but you can tee from one to the other rather than
> >     running a separate wire.
> >
> >     It would have been helpful to see the top half of the dial where it
> >     might have shown RVI and what polarity it was.? I suspect it would
> >     show
> >     positive earth, but those electronics would have been used with
> >     negative
> >     earth in an MGB for example so it looks like it has been converted =
by
> >     swapping the guts instead of swapping the wires round internally.? =
If
> >     that tach was used after the car was converted to negative earth it
> >     would make sense.
> >
> >     PaulH.
> >
> >     On 31/07/2023 01:22, dave northrup wrote:
> >     >
> >     > Negative ground, car runs smoothly, need to install the electric
> >     tach
> >     > which supposedly was previously installed in this car and working=
.
> >     >
> >     > On the back view, what hooks up where?? I am pretty sure the
> >     tab, and
> >     > the screw, are ground.
> >     >
> >     > The other two ? one needs to go to power and the other to the
> >     coil.? I
> >     > think one is a female bullet connector; the other is male.?
> >     Which goes
> >     > to power and which to the coil?
> >     >
> >     >
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">I b=
elieve a tach (short for tachometer) and rev counter refer to the same inst=
rument.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large"><=
br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">And, yes, a=
ll MGAs came with a tach as original equipment.</div><div class=3D"gmail_de=
fault" style=3D"font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" sty=
le=3D"font-size:large">EjR=C2=A0</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 2:04=E2=80=AFP=
M &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgs-request@autox.team.net";>mgs-request@autox.team.=
net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
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=C2=A0 =C2=A01. Re: Mgs Digest, Vol 194, Issue 12 (Eric Russell)<br>
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Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2023 16:21:38 -0400<br>
From: Eric Russell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ejrussell61@gmail.com"; target=3D"_=
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To: <a href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">mgs@autox.team.=
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Subject: Re: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 194, Issue 12<br>
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My guess is an MGA tach face (Jaeger) or perhaps MGA tach face &amp; case w=
as<br>
used with a different tach&#39;s internals. MGB tachs were &#39;Smiths&#39;=
.<br>
<br>
MGB tach for MGA is described here:<br>
<a href=3D"http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/electric/et202c.htm"; rel=3D"noreferrer=
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&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 1. mga 1500 with early 5 main mgb engine (dave northrup)<=
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&gt; Message: 1<br>
&gt; Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2023 00:22:55 +0000<br>
&gt; From: dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com"; target=3D"=
_blank">dave@ranteer.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; To: &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">mgs@=
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&gt; Subject: [Mgs] mga 1500 with early 5 main mgb engine<br>
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&gt;<br>
&gt; Negative ground, car runs smoothly, need to install the electric tach<=
br>
&gt; which supposedly was previously installed in this car and working.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On the back view, what hooks up where?=C2=A0 I am pretty sure the tab,=
 and the<br>
&gt; screw, are ground.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The other two - one needs to go to power and the other to the coil.=C2=
=A0 I<br>
&gt; think one is a female bullet connector; the other is male.=C2=A0 Which=
 goes to<br>
&gt; power and which to the coil?<br>
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&gt; Message: 2<br>
&gt; Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2023 17:52:40 -0700<br>
&gt; From: Max Heim &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mvheim@sonic.net"; target=3D"_blan=
k">mvheim@sonic.net</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; To: &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">mgs@=
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&gt; Subject: Re: [Mgs] mga 1500 with early 5 main mgb engine<br>
&gt; Message-ID: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:983CC3D7-127F-4FD9-97E0-7533897C6FFD=
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&gt; Hmm, the back of that tach case has obviously been modified. Are you s=
ure<br>
&gt; it still contains the matching internals? I say this because for 20 ye=
ars I<br>
&gt; ran my Mk. I MGB with the original tach case, faceplate &amp; needle, =
but with<br>
&gt; a cheap auto parts store mini-tach inside the case. The only modificat=
ions<br>
&gt; were two small screw holes to attach the mechanism.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; An original MGB Mk. I tach would have had a loop in the white wire,<br=
>
&gt; attached to the back of the case with a thumb nut and a thin U-shaped =
brass<br>
&gt; bracket. I am not seeing that on yours.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Actually, I guess it is unclear whether you are talking about an MGA t=
ach<br>
&gt; or an early MGB tach...<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; Max Heim<br>
&gt; &#39;66 MGB<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; On Jul 30, 2023, at 5:22 PM, dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
dave@ranteer.com" target=3D"_blank">dave@ranteer.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Negative ground, car runs smoothly, need to install the electric =
tach<br>
&gt; which supposedly was previously installed in this car and working.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; On the back view, what hooks up where?=C2=A0 I am pretty sure the=
 tab, and<br>
&gt; the screw, are ground.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; The other two ? one needs to go to power and the other to the coi=
l.=C2=A0 I<br>
&gt; think one is a female bullet connector; the other is male.=C2=A0 Which=
 goes to<br>
&gt; power and which to the coil?<br>
&gt; &gt; &lt;tach front view.jpg&gt;&lt;tach rear<br>
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&gt; Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2023 08:38:26 +0100<br>
&gt; From: Paul Hunt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:paulbhunt73@gmail.com"; target=3D=
"_blank">paulbhunt73@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">mgs@autox.=
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&gt; Subject: Re: [Mgs] mga 1500 with early 5 main mgb engine<br>
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&gt; Not an MGB reference number, it looks like it has later internals than=
<br>
&gt; but would still be the current-operated type i.e. RVI where the power =
to<br>
&gt; the coil comes via the tach.? The ignition switch would be connected t=
o<br>
&gt; the male bullet and the female bullet to the coil.? 12v (also from the=
<br>
&gt; ignition) to the spade and earth to the case.? When used on the MGB<br=
>
&gt; there were separate wires from the ignition switch to the spade and to=
<br>
&gt; the male bullet but you can tee from one to the other rather than<br>
&gt; running a separate wire.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; It would have been helpful to see the top half of the dial where it<br=
>
&gt; might have shown RVI and what polarity it was.? I suspect it would sho=
w<br>
&gt; positive earth, but those electronics would have been used with negati=
ve<br>
&gt; earth in an MGB for example so it looks like it has been converted by<=
br>
&gt; swapping the guts instead of swapping the wires round internally.? If<=
br>
&gt; that tach was used after the car was converted to negative earth it<br=
>
&gt; would make sense.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; PaulH.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On 31/07/2023 01:22, dave northrup wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Negative ground, car runs smoothly, need to install the electric =
tach<br>
&gt; &gt; which supposedly was previously installed in this car and working=
.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; On the back view, what hooks up where?? I am pretty sure the tab,=
 and<br>
&gt; &gt; the screw, are ground.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; The other two ? one needs to go to power and the other to the coi=
l.? I<br>
&gt; &gt; think one is a female bullet connector; the other is male.? Which=
 goes<br>
&gt; &gt; to power and which to the coil?<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2023 08:13:10 +0100<br>
From: Paul Hunt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:paulbhunt73@gmail.com"; target=3D"_bla=
nk">paulbhunt73@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">mgs@autox.team.=
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Subject: Re: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 194, Issue 12<br>
l.com" target=3D"_blank">6c64e1d7-8d4b-bc1b-1ace-c98016e66b29@gmail.com</a>=
&gt;<br>
d&quot;<br>
<br>
Did any MGAs leave the factory with a tach?? Early MGBs had a rev <br>
counter before they got the tach.<br>
<br>
On 31/07/2023 21:21, Eric Russell wrote:<br>
&gt; My guess is an MGA tach face (Jaeger) or perhaps MGA tach face &amp; c=
ase <br>
&gt; was used with a different tach&#39;s internals. MGB tachs were &#39;Sm=
iths&#39;.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; MGB tach for MGA is described here: <br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/electric/et202c.htm"; rel=3D"noref=
errer" target=3D"_blank">http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/electric/et202c.htm</a><=
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&gt;<br>
&gt; EjR<br>
&gt;<br>
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&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0? ?1. mga 1500 with early 5 main mgb engine (dave n=
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&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0? ?2. Re: mga 1500 with early 5 main mgb engine (Ma=
x Heim)<br>
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&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Message: 1<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2023 00:22:55 +0000<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0From: dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@rant=
eer.com" target=3D"_blank">dave@ranteer.com</a>&gt;<br>
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&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Subject: [Mgs] mga 1500 with early 5 main mgb engin=
e<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Message-ID: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:8ba46f6ebee14b168=
b5e753f84b72499@ranteer.com" target=3D"_blank">8ba46f6ebee14b168b5e753f84b7=
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&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Negative ground, car runs smoothly, need to install=
 the electric<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0tach which supposedly was previously installed in t=
his car and<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0working.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On the back view, what hooks up where?? I am pretty=
 sure the tab,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0and the screw, are ground.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0The other two - one needs to go to power and the ot=
her to the<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0coil.? I think one is a female bullet connector; th=
e other is<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0male.? Which goes to power and which to the coil?<b=
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&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Message: 2<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2023 17:52:40 -0700<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0From: Max Heim &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mvheim@sonic.n=
et" target=3D"_blank">mvheim@sonic.net</a>&gt;<br>
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&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Subject: Re: [Mgs] mga 1500 with early 5 main mgb e=
ngine<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Message-ID: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:983CC3D7-127F-4FD=
9-97E0-7533897C6FFD@sonic.net" target=3D"_blank">983CC3D7-127F-4FD9-97E0-75=
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&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hmm, the back of that tach case has obviously been =
modified. Are<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0you sure it still contains the matching internals? =
I say this<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0because for 20 years I ran my Mk. I MGB with the or=
iginal tach<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0case, faceplate &amp; needle, but with a cheap auto=
 parts store<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0mini-tach inside the case. The only modifications w=
ere two small<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0screw holes to attach the mechanism.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0An original MGB Mk. I tach would have had a loop in=
 the white<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0wire, attached to the back of the case with a thumb=
 nut and a thin<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0U-shaped brass bracket. I am not seeing that on you=
rs.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Actually, I guess it is unclear whether you are tal=
king about an<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0MGA tach or an early MGB tach...<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0--<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Max Heim<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&#39;66 MGB<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; On Jul 30, 2023, at 5:22 PM, dave northrup &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com"; target=3D"_blank">dave@ranteer.com</a>=
&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; Negative ground, car runs smoothly, need to in=
stall the electric<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0tach which supposedly was previously installed in t=
his car and<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0working.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; On the back view, what hooks up where?? I am p=
retty sure the<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0tab, and the screw, are ground.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; The other two ? one needs to go to power and t=
he other to the<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0coil.? I think one is a female bullet connector; th=
e other is<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0male.? Which goes to power and which to the coil?<b=
r>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; &lt;tach front view.jpg&gt;&lt;tach rear<br>
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&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Subject: Re: [Mgs] mga 1500 with early 5 main mgb e=
ngine<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Message-ID: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:86e97849-ea66-aad=
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t;; Format=3D&quot;flowed&quot;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Not an MGB reference number, it looks like it has l=
ater internals<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0than<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0but would still be the current-operated type i.e. R=
VI where the<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0power to<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the coil comes via the tach.? The ignition switch w=
ould be<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0connected to<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the male bullet and the female bullet to the coil.?=
 12v (also from<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ignition) to the spade and earth to the case.? When=
 used on the MGB<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0there were separate wires from the ignition switch =
to the spade<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0and to<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the male bullet but you can tee from one to the oth=
er rather than<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0running a separate wire.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0It would have been helpful to see the top half of t=
he dial where it<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0might have shown RVI and what polarity it was.? I s=
uspect it would<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0show<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0positive earth, but those electronics would have be=
en used with<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0negative<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0earth in an MGB for example so it looks like it has=
 been converted by<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0swapping the guts instead of swapping the wires rou=
nd internally.? If<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0that tach was used after the car was converted to n=
egative earth it<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0would make sense.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0PaulH.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On 31/07/2023 01:22, dave northrup wrote:<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; Negative ground, car runs smoothly, need to in=
stall the electric<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0tach<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; which supposedly was previously installed in t=
his car and working.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; On the back view, what hooks up where?? I am p=
retty sure the<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0tab, and<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; the screw, are ground.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; The other two ? one needs to go to power and t=
he other to the<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0coil.? I<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; think one is a female bullet connector; the ot=
her is male.?<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Which goes<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; to power and which to the coil?<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
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