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Re: [Mgs] Modern radio in old MGB car

To: "Barrie Robinson" <barrob@bell.net>, "MGB List" <mgs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Mgs] Modern radio in old MGB car
From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 08:55:16 +0100 brqvP3eJae/a0oAuaA1f3aa3hAcNURpPLIAqNUB7bABobKtU1RmSDixyWJ9bW1qbiLf+gApTDN9/XA==
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I can't really see that, even if you had installed a 'modern' computer =
in your V8.  Radios with a memory will put a drain on the battery, but =
it shouldn't be a problem after just 'a few days'.  Even modern cars =
shouldn't do that for two or three weeks at worst.  I had to put a =
cut-off switch in my V8 as the alarm was draining the battery in couple =
of weeks, since when it has been fine.  The radio in that keeps its =
stations, and I've run a bypass feed direct to the clock.  I also had to =
put one on my 'modern' as it's hardly used in summer and wouldn't start =
the engine after a couple of weeks.  That loses its stations so put a =
bypass for that and the clock which conveniently are on the same fuse, =
but it still fails after several weeks of not being used.

Checking for a drain isn't difficult even if finding the cause is =
time-consuming.  Remove the battery earth strap and connect a VOLTmeter =
in its place.  If you have a dynamo there shouldn't be anything shown on =
the meter.  With an alternator there is usually a microscopic drain from =
the diodes, which shows up as a few volts on an analogue meter and 12v =
on a typical digital.  If you see 12v on a typical analogue you do have =
a drain.  Unplug the alternator and if that drops to zero on an analogue =
then the alternator diodes are suspect, a digital is too sensitive to =
tell the difference directly but you could measure the current.

If you still see 12v on either then disconnect any alarm or 'in car =
entertainment', then the purple circuit fuse, hazard flasher fuse, brown =
wires from ignition switch, lighting switch, fusebox, relays and =
solenoid until it drops to zero.  The thing that caused it to drop needs =
further investigation, of course.

PaulH.
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  ...=20
  Then radio man thought that modern radios had facilities that =
connected them to "modern" car computers and thus the drain as the radio =
would keep "on" and chatting even when it was turned off. ...
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I can't really see that, even if you had installed a =
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computer in your V8.&nbsp; Radios with a memory will put a drain on the =
battery,=20
but it shouldn't be a problem after just 'a few days'.&nbsp; Even modern =
cars=20
shouldn't do that for two or three weeks at worst.&nbsp; I had to put a =
cut-off=20
switch in my V8 as the alarm was draining the battery in&nbsp;couple of =
weeks,=20
since when it has been fine.&nbsp; The radio in that keeps its stations, =
and=20
I've run a bypass feed direct to the clock.&nbsp; I also had to put one =
on my=20
'modern' as it's hardly used in summer and wouldn't start the engine =
after a=20
couple of weeks.&nbsp; That loses its stations so put a bypass for that =
and the=20
clock which conveniently are on the same fuse, but it still fails after =
several=20
weeks of not being used.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Checking for a drain isn't difficult even if finding =
the cause=20
is time-consuming.&nbsp; Remove the battery earth strap and connect a =
VOLTmeter=20
in its place.&nbsp; If you have a dynamo there shouldn't be anything =
shown on=20
the meter.&nbsp; With an alternator there is usually a microscopic drain =
from=20
the diodes, which shows up as a few volts on an analogue meter and 12v =
on a=20
typical digital.&nbsp; If you see 12v on a typical analogue you do have =
a=20
drain.&nbsp; Unplug the alternator and if that drops to zero on an =
analogue then=20
the alternator diodes are suspect, a digital is too sensitive to tell =
the=20
difference directly but you could measure the current.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>If you still see 12v on either then disconnect any =
alarm or=20
'in car entertainment', then the purple circuit fuse, hazard flasher =
fuse, brown=20
wires from ignition switch, lighting switch, fusebox,&nbsp;relays and=20
solenoid&nbsp;until it drops to zero.&nbsp; The thing that caused it to =
drop=20
needs further investigation, of course.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>PaulH.</FONT></DIV>
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  </B></DIV><FONT size=3D-1><FONT face=3DArial>Then radio man <I>thought =
</I>that=20
  modern radios had facilities that connected them to "modern" car =
computers and=20
  thus the drain as the radio would keep "on" and chatting even when it =
was=20
  turned off. ...</FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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