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We get all of the Wheeler Dealer episodes. And yes, it's stupid that they b=
rag about making money on the cars without including labor. I watched the A=
mphiCar episodea few nights ago, where Edd had to replace most of the lower=
body work and inner structure with new metal. He commented that he had ask=
ed a welding shop what theywould have charged, and they said 10,000 pounds.=
That was not included in the cost of refurbishing the car which they sold =
for a 'profit' of 5,000 pounds. That said, I dolike Mike's enthusiasm about=
the various cars, and they do buy and repair some cool stuff, especially t=
he stuff they get from the UK and Europe.
Dan D'76B, '65B
Central NJ USA From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
To: jim williams <sportsix63@yahoo.com>; mgs@autox.team.net=20
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Mgs] UK List Users
=20
Is your first question serious?=C2=A0 Yes, it is=C2=A0'really big', as in =
the most widely-watched factual motoring program in the world.=C2=A0 Whethe=
r you appreciate the humour is another matter.=C2=A0 Some of it is infantil=
e, some boring, but some hysterically funny.=C2=A0 Some of their specials h=
ave been first rate.=C2=A0Actors?=C2=A0 Well, yes.=C2=A0 As Clarkson has sa=
id "We have received the award for best unscripted scripted television prog=
ram ever".=C2=A0Clarkson is an arrogant idiot, he knows nothing about cars,=
he is just good with words.=C2=A0Hammond and May seem to be decent blokes =
and have many other programs - usually serious and with a scientific bent -=
to their names.=C2=A05th Gear is very staid, I can't say I'm that interest=
ed in whether one hot hatch goes round a track 1/10th second faster than an=
other.=C2=A0 Watching two people having a conversation in a cafe (if they s=
till do that) is boring.=C2=A0Wheeler Dealers is completely different in th=
at it takes a classic and 'restores' it for resale - but you probably know =
that.=C2=A0 The concept of them 'making a profit' when they don't take any=
=C2=A0labour costs into account is laughable, but I watch it for the techni=
cal interest.=C2=A0 America may only get the ones that involve America, but=
the vast majority of their output=C2=A0has been=C2=A0UK-based with some ca=
rs having been obtained=C2=A0elsewhere in Europe.=C2=A0 Maybe America=C2=A0=
isn't interested in those.=C2=A0Classic Car Rescue was appalling and by far=
the worst of the lot.=C2=A0 Every week a manufactured 'disaster', like cut=
ting through the leaf springs of an MGB, lifting it by the body, then shock=
-horror the axle falls off.=C2=A0Chasing Classic Cars is a rare 'all Americ=
an' program we get in the UK, mostly interesting, although watching auction=
s does nothing for me.=C2=A0There may be others but I'm not aware of them.=
=C2=A0 I watched American Chopper for years, sad that Senior couldn't cope =
with Junior's growing design and construction expertise.=C2=A0 Or with any =
of his=C2=A0offspring for that matter.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Also sad (but inevitable=
) that it was replaced by Fast and Loud, although as Junior said "Load and =
Annoying" was more appropriate, I had enough of them in the 'bike-offs'.=C2=
=A0PaulH.=C2=A0=C2=A0----- Original Message -----=20
=20
Just a few curious questions=C2=A0 Is Top Gear a really big program in En=
gland? Are the actors well thought of?=20
How about 5th Gear? =C2=A0=20
Wheeler Dealers We have the show every Weds. night. The actors attend a lo=
t of US shows. Is it just made for the US market?=20
I think the other one is Classic Car Rescue Based in the UK but one of the=
actors is from Canada.=20
Last: are there any shows in the UK that are based in the US? I'm talking =
about car shows.=20
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nt-size:12px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1423943596735_4939" dir=3D"ltr">We ge=
t all of the Wheeler Dealer episodes. And yes, it's stupid that they brag a=
bout making money on the cars without including labor. I watched the AmphiC=
ar episode</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1423943596735_4941" dir=3D"ltr">a f=
ew nights ago, where Edd had to replace most of the lower body work and inn=
er structure with new metal. He commented that he had asked a welding shop =
what they</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1423943596735_4942" dir=3D"ltr">woul=
d have charged, and they said 10,000 pounds. That was not included in the c=
ost of refurbishing the car which they sold for a 'profit' of 5,000 pounds.=
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r">like Mike's enthusiasm about the various cars, and they do buy and repai=
r some cool stuff, especially the stuff they get from the UK and Europe.</d=
iv><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1423943596735_4944" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div i=
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ica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"> <=
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=3D"1"> <font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1423943596735_4964" face=3D"Arial" size=
=3D"2"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> PaulHunt73 vi=
a Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net><br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">=
To:</span></b> jim williams <sportsix63@yahoo.com>; mgs@autox.team.ne=
t <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, Feb=
ruary 14, 2015 11:43 AM<br> <b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1423943596735_4969"><span=
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1423943596735_4968" style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subjec=
t:</span></b> Re: [Mgs] UK List Users<br> </font> </div> <div id=3D"yui_3_1=
6_0_1_1423943596735_4970" class=3D"y_msg_container"><br><div id=3D"yiv49437=
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<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1423943596735_4972"><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_142394=
3596735_4971" size=3D"2">Is your first question serious? Yes, it is&n=
bsp;'really=20
big', as in the most widely-watched factual motoring program in the world.&=
nbsp;=20
Whether you appreciate the humour is another matter. Some of it is=20
infantile, some boring, but some hysterically funny. Some of their=20
specials have been first rate.</font></div>
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/div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1423943596735_4976"><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_142394=
3596735_4975" size=3D"2">Actors? Well, yes. As Clarkson has sai=
d "We have=20
received the award for best unscripted scripted television program=20
ever".</font></div>
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3596735_4979" size=3D"2">Clarkson is an arrogant idiot, he knows nothing ab=
out cars, he=20
is just good with words.</font></div>
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3596735_4982" size=3D"2">Hammond and May seem to be decent blokes and have =
many other=20
programs - usually serious and with a scientific bent - to their=20
names.</font></div>
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<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1423943596735_4984"><font size=3D"2">5th Gear is ve=
ry staid, I can't say I'm that interested in=20
whether one hot hatch goes round a track 1/10th second faster than=20
another. Watching two people having a conversation in a cafe (if they=
=20
still do that) is boring.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2"></font> </div>
<div><font size=3D"2">Wheeler Dealers is completely different in that it ta=
kes a=20
classic and 'restores' it for resale - but you probably know that. Th=
e=20
concept of them 'making a profit' when they don't take any labour cost=
s=20
into account is laughable, but I watch it for the technical interest. =
=20
America may only get the ones that involve America, but the vast majority o=
f=20
their output has been UK-based with some cars having been=20
obtained elsewhere in Europe. Maybe America isn't intereste=
d in=20
those.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2"></font> </div>
<div><font size=3D"2">Classic Car Rescue was appalling and by far the worst=
of the=20
lot. Every week a manufactured 'disaster', like cutting through the l=
eaf=20
springs of an MGB, lifting it by the body, then shock-horror the axle falls=
=20
off.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2"></font> </div>
<div><font size=3D"2">Chasing Classic Cars is a rare 'all American' program=
we get=20
in the UK, mostly interesting, although watching auctions does nothing for=
=20
me.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2"></font> </div>
<div><font size=3D"2">There may be others but I'm not aware of them. =
I watched=20
American Chopper for years, sad that Senior couldn't cope with Junior's gro=
wing=20
design and construction expertise. Or with any of his offspring =
for=20
that matter. Also sad (but inevitable) that it was replaced by =
Fast=20
and Loud, although as Junior said "Load and Annoying" was more appropriate,=
I=20
had enough of them in the 'bike-offs'.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2"></font> </div>
<div><font size=3D"2">PaulH.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2"></font> </div>
<div><font size=3D"2"></font> </div>
<div>----- Original Message ----- </div>
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-RIGHT:0px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;">
<div><font size=3D"2"></font><br></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:#fff;FONT-FAMILY:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica =
Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;COLOR:#000;FONT-SIZE:14px=
;">
<div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv4943762813yui_3_16_0_1_1423926871741_25138"><sp=
an id=3D"yiv4943762813yui_3_16_0_1_1423926871741_25202">Just a few curious=
=20
questions </span></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv4943762813yui_3_16_0_1_1423926871741_25138"><sp=
an id=3D"yiv4943762813yui_3_16_0_1_1423926871741_25213">Is Top Gear a reall=
y big program in=20
England?</span></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv4943762813yui_3_16_0_1_1423926871741_25138"><sp=
an id=3D"yiv4943762813yui_3_16_0_1_1423926871741_25309">Are the actors well=
thought=20
of?</span></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv4943762813yui_3_16_0_1_1423926871741_25138"><sp=
an><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font><br></span></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv4943762813yui_3_16_0_1_1423926871741_25138"><sp=
an id=3D"yiv4943762813yui_3_16_0_1_1423926871741_25310">How about 5th Gear?=
</span></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv4943762813yui_3_16_0_1_1423926871741_25138"><sp=
an><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font></span> </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv4943762813yui_3_16_0_1_1423926871741_25138"><sp=
an><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font><br></span></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv4943762813yui_3_16_0_1_1423926871741_25138"><sp=
an id=3D"yiv4943762813yui_3_16_0_1_1423926871741_25311">Wheeler Dealers</sp=
an></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv4943762813yui_3_16_0_1_1423926871741_25138"><sp=
an id=3D"yiv4943762813yui_3_16_0_1_1423926871741_25557">We have the show ev=
ery Weds.=20
night.</span></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv4943762813yui_3_16_0_1_1423926871741_25138"><sp=
an id=3D"yiv4943762813yui_3_16_0_1_1423926871741_25377">The actors attend a=
lot of US=20
shows.</span></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv4943762813yui_3_16_0_1_1423926871741_25138"><sp=
an id=3D"yiv4943762813yui_3_16_0_1_1423926871741_25378">Is it just made for=
the US=20
market?</span></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv4943762813yui_3_16_0_1_1423926871741_25138"><sp=
an><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font><br></span></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv4943762813yui_3_16_0_1_1423926871741_25138"><sp=
an id=3D"yiv4943762813yui_3_16_0_1_1423926871741_25411">I think the other o=
ne is Classic Car=20
Rescue</span></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv4943762813yui_3_16_0_1_1423926871741_25138"><sp=
an id=3D"yiv4943762813yui_3_16_0_1_1423926871741_25437">Based in the UK but=
one of the actors is=20
from Canada.</span></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv4943762813yui_3_16_0_1_1423926871741_25138"><sp=
an><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font><br></span></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv4943762813yui_3_16_0_1_1423926871741_25138"><sp=
an id=3D"yiv4943762813yui_3_16_0_1_1423926871741_25470">Last: are there any=
shows in the UK that=20
are based in the US?</span></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv4943762813yui_3_16_0_1_1423926871741_25138"><sp=
an id=3D"yiv4943762813yui_3_16_0_1_1423926871741_25499">I'm talking about c=
ar shows.</span></div>
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