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Re: [Mgs] OT : Tesla - in the flesh!!

To: MG List <mgs@autox.team.net>, Max Heim <max_heim@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [Mgs] OT : Tesla - in the flesh!!
From: Rick Lindsay <rolindsay@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:47:50 -0800 (PST)
Interesting perspective.  The problem we face - independent of whether we call 
it 'climate change' or 'dependence on foreign oil' - is not petroleum 
addiction, it's ENERGY ADDICTION.  And until we ratchet down our demand for 
energy, nothing much is going to change - well, not until it runs out.  The 
next problem is even more frightening.  Its just this; Everyone in the U.S. 
could drive a Prius and oil consumption would still increase. We can't nor do 
we have the right, to tell China and India that they don't have the right to 
grow.



rick


--- On Fri, 2/27/09, Max Heim <max_heim@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> From: Max Heim <max_heim@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [Mgs] OT : Tesla - in the flesh!!
> To: "MG List" <mgs@autox.team.net>
> Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 12:10 PM
> Hmm, even taking that story at face value, it doesn't in
> any way address the
> carbon issue, which is actually far more critical at this
> point. Vehicle
> tailpipe emissions (of "traditional" pollutants)
> are already so low that
> further improvement is merely incremental.
> 
> In areas where smog is still a problem, it is the number of
> emitting
> vehicles that needs to be reduced, not their individual
> emissions (which can
> scarcely be improved) -- this is another case for electric
> vehicles.
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Max Heim
> '66 MGB GHN3L76149
> If you're near Mountain View, CA,
> it's the primer red one with chrome wires
> 
> on 2/27/09 9:53 AM, Barney Gaylord at barneymg@mgaguru.com
> wrote:
> 
> > At 10:45 AM 2/27/2009 -0600, Paul Root wrote:
> >> .... there's a lot of sticking ones head in
> the sand of
> >> environmentalists that think a Zero emission car
> has no
> >> environmental effect from it's use.
> >> ....
> > 
> > We all know that electric cars pollute by way of what
> comes out of
> > the electrical power generating plant.  So how about a
> REAL practical
> > negative pollution vehicle?  Some years ago when the
> government was
> > mandating production of "zero pollution"
> vehicles, Honda built a
> > negative pollution vehicle that runs on common
> gasoline, and you
> > wouldn't know it from any other gasoline powered
> car.  They put
> > catalyst plating on the outside of the cooling
> radiator.  The
> > radiator then removed more pollutants from the ambient
> air than the
> > car was emitting from the tail pipe, thus making it a
> negative
> > pollution vehicle, actually cleaning the air as you
> drove.
> > 
> > You can guess where that went.  Bureaucrats with a
> vested interest in
> > electric cars shot it down because the emissions
> standards only
> > consider tail pipe emissions.  Ignoring negative
> emissions of the
> > catalytic radiator, is just as stupid as ignoring
> positive emissions
> > of coal fired electric power plants.
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