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RE: UPS and LBC parts - now with hardly any LBC content at all

To: "Bob De Weese" <bearlock@erols.com>, "Bob De Weese" <bearlock@erols.com>,
Subject: RE: UPS and LBC parts - now with hardly any LBC content at all
From: "doug russell" <dr-doug@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 97 15:46:15 UT

-----Original Message-----
From:   owner-mgs@autox.team.net  On Behalf Of Bob De Weese
Sent:   Sunday, August 10, 1997 12:11 AM
To:     patrick bailey
Cc:     Thomas James Pokrefke, III; mgs@autox.team.net
Subject:        Re: UPS and LBC parts

patrick bailey wrote:
> 
> > Sorry, but it's difficult to be "sympathetic" to someone who's making
> > $50,000 a year plus another $20,000 in beneffits, and walks off the job.
> 
> (rant mode ON)
> 
> >  What is at issue from what I can get is the poor slobs that work 
> >from12 midnight to 3AM for a
> > lousy $24!also the fact that if UPS can REPLACE the good people with  the 
part time help they
> > won't be making the $50,000 + benefits!The part-timers CAN'T strike.
>>I'll bet if I called you at
> > 2AM to come get me in my car because I lost my keys you would charge 
> >a hell of a lot more than $24 IF you would drag your butt out of bed!


$125 to come out and open it at 2 AM, but don't forget, I've already 
worked all day.  

Oh.  That's right.  You _lost_ your keys.  Make that $160 and up 
depending on the kind of car.    

There are four pages of locksmiths in the phone book.  People can call 
any one they want.  If they can get a guy to come out for $24, more 
power to 'em.  I get to stay in bed.  If they call him first, even 
better.  They won't be waking me up in the middle of the night for 
nothing, (which happen quite often).

The reason I can _get_ $125 sometimes is because no one else is 
answering their phone.  This in and of itself makes me a valuable 
commodity. ;) 

OTOH, It's not hard to find someone who can load/drive a truck.  (Sorry, 
to sound so callous, but that's life.)  If UPS can fill the position 
with a dependable, competant worker for $ 8 an hour, why shouldn't they? 
Just like, if someone can get their car opened at 2 AM for $24 instead 
of paying me $125, why shouldn't they?  

<SNIP FOR TEMPERATURE RISING SOAPBOX>

Why begrudge UPS workers something that you would want and think you deserve 
for yourself?  Keep up that attitude and no one will be calling you at 2 am 
because "they locked themselves out of ......"  much less for an LBC problem 
because no one will be able to afford an LBC or whatever it is they are being 
locked out of!! To a certain extent we are all in this together and when 
someone like UPS workers lose, we all lose.  One of the arguments that the UPS 
workers have is that people who work 35 hours per week are not receiving 
benefits and only half of the pay of a full time worker (40 hours per week) 
because they are considered part time - Is this really fair??  Remember the 
robber barons of the early 1900s, they had some of the same ideas - that was 
capitalism carried to and extreme (shear power and profit) and by extension 
this is what you are suggesting.  Be careful or you (we all) may end up 
getting what you want - If UPS gets away with it then the jobs of many could 
be reduced from 40 hours (full time) to 39 hours (part time) with an exclusion 
of benefits and a cut in pay for all part time workers.  What you are saying 
amounts to a "let them eat cake" mentality.  We need to be more responsible 
than that.

Sorry to attach the heat to your particular post but there are many who have 
expressed sentiments similar to yours and such short sighted ME ME ME, I GOT 
MINE and FUCK THE OTHER GUY views just tick me off.  Please, try to see the 
impact of such issues as they might exist beyond the end of your own nose.  
AND we really ought to stick to discussing our LBCs which brings out the best 
in us all (apparently attracting the attention of leaders, thinkers, artists, 
technicians, lovers and of course fools). 

Dr. Doug (I've got half the alphabet after my name so please note that I am 
more special than you!)
A gaggle of 69 MGs

(UNSNIP SOAPBOX AND THANKS FOR THE CATHARSIS>

And BTW - Since _I_ own the business (bills and all), at the end of the 
year, after all business expences have been paid (a lot more than you 
think), out of every dollar the business grossed I keep about fifty four 
cents... _before_ personal taxes.  



> > Sorry to rant but I'm getting sick and tired of these
> > effette attacks on the hard working union members                          
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Oxi-moron.  
Sorry, just kidding.  Couldn't resist.  ;)

>> while ignoring the fact that UPS made 1.6
> > BILLION in profits last year 

That's what business' (well run ones) do.  They make a proffit.  If they 
don't make a profit, the workers still get paid.  (They just don't 
_keep_ thier jobs very long.)  

>>and only pays their part timers a lousy $8 an hour at that ungodly
> > hour!

The example you keep mentioning is by no means the norm.  UPS also has 
part time workers making $30,000 and up a year.  

I'll bet if they put an ad in the paper, offering these jobs, the 
application line would be a block long.  

>>Have you seen a UPS guy work? He is running all day long!How many of you 
would work that
> > hard?

I've done it...  _for a lot less_.   Did I once say that I begrudge UPS 
drivers making the kind of money they do?  No.  I just think that 
ANYBODY who makes fifty grand a year has a lot of nerve to walk off a 
job that _many_ would give their right nu... arm for. (The exception 
being unsafe working conditions)

 They are extremely fortunate to have such a well paying job.  They 
_should_ be thanking God alright, but not for the unions.  They should 
be thanking God for giving them such a good job.


> 
> Pat (work union,live better)


Bobby   ( Own a business.  Live on the edge.)    


-- 
                                       Bob De Weese  
                             Certified Professional Locksmith
                                   bearlock@bigfoot.com


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