I'm sure there are a lot of lists where pro-gun and anti-gun can get
together and try to convince one another. However this list ought not to be
one of them. It's where I go for MG-T knowledge.
If you can't find a better place for your debate maybe you could start an
NRA-MG-T list.
Ted Jackson
1951 MGTD #5554
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Dallas Congleton <dcongleton@embarqmail.com
> wrote:
> Larry - other people do research, and spend a "few minutes checking facts"
> , and are open to factual analysis-
>
> maybe you should read something other than the gun lobby reports-
> Here is a link-
>
> http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=15304
>
> Not trying to start any arguments and this car forum is not the place for
> politics, etc and ....
> I know that converting a liberal is almost impossible-
>
> this was information for independent thinkers
> Dallas
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Shoer" <LarryShoer@comcast.net>
> To: "List" <mg-t@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 8:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [Mg-t] scrappage laws- gun control
>
>
> Before posting, I encourage people to spend a few minutes checking
>> facts. Here is an alternate interpretation of the Australian data. I
>> quote from http://www.guncontrol.org.au/index.php?article=32 (admittedly
>> not a neutral party, but their data sources are listed, so can be
>> further verified).
>>
>> -------------------------
>>
>> "Claim 1. Australian homicides are up 3.2% since the new laws.
>>
>> In 1998, compared to the average of the two years prior to new gun laws
>> becoming operative (1996-1997), gun homicides dropped by 37.8%. Murder
>> by all means dropped 13.7%.
>>
>> Claim 2. Armed robberies are up by a "whopping" 44% since the new laws.
>> In fact the rate of armed robbery increase dropped 12% in 1998.
>>
>> Claim 3. Assaults are up 8.6% since the new laws. In fact the rate of
>> assaults increase dropped by 4.2% in 1998.
>>
>> Claim 4. In Victoria there was a 300% increase in homicides following
>> the new laws. In fact the homicide rate in Victoria dropped by 19.8% in
>> 1998. Victoria has for many years had the lowest homicide rate of the
>> six Australian states. In three months we will have the 1999 ABS
>> statistics. These will allow the matter to be re-examined."
>>
>> -------------------------
>>
>> Other information in "A LITTLE GUN HISTORY" can be similarly checked.
>> Before jumping to a particular conclusion, I encourage you to do so.
>>
>> I, too, have strong opinions about this topic, but do not participate in
>> the MG forums to voice these opinions. I come here to escape the noise
>> and baggage of a chaotic world.
>>
>> Larry
>>
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