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Re: [Land-speed] Buckeye Bullet

To: <drmayf@mayfco.com>, "'LSR'" <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Buckeye Bullet
From: <neil@dbelltech.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:28:08 -0700
Good point, Mayf. Does the charging system determine the classification? If
so, a diesel record could be claimed if the hybrid had a diesel engine
charging the batteries. Next could be a fuel class, blown, etc. ad nauseum.

Regards, Neil   Tucson, AZ

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From: land-speed-bounces@autox.team.net
[mailto:land-speed-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of drmayf
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:30 AM
To: LSR
Subject: [Land-speed] Buckeye Bullet

Dale Pulju sent me a note about the Buckeye Bullet setting a record of 
300 + mph with Hydrogen.  Now this brings an interesting question or 
two. But first, I say well done to that effort!  Now the questions: 
they  had previously set a record using batteries. Batteries are 
electric storage devices. So the record was listed as an electrical 
record. Good enough I say. But now another record is claimed as a 
hydrogen record. Yet the car's drive system was electrical.  Hydrogen 
(actually hydrogen and oxygen mix)  was used to produce electricity 
which powered the car.  So was the original record using batteries 
really a gasoline record because the batteries that supplied the power 
were charged via some generator? Or Nuke because the electrons came from 
that?  With the H2O2 and the fuel cells generating electrons I believe 
that the record is really an electrical one.  Think hard about this. Do 
the rule making authorities need new definitions of what actually powers 
a vehicle?  Take  a hybrid vehicle. Doesn't the gasoline motor provide 
most of the power? If so, why is it called a hybrid?  If I could put a 
gasoline powered generator in a car and use the gen power to run the 
electric motor that drives the wheels, would that be electrical or 
fossil fuel powered?  It cannot run without gasoline so is it defined as 
a petroleum powered car or electrical. Isn't that what a hybrid is?  Me, 
I think that the drive mechanism has to be primarily fueled by something 
directly and that should be the definition. for instance the car that 
Jesse James used had a true hydrogen motor. The fuel was directly 
powering the vehicle.  The Ford Fusion and the Buckeye Bullet used 
electric drive to move the vehicle and I think that is electrical. Not 
hydrogen.


Any thoughtful comments out there? I am sitting here waiting for parts....


mayf
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